And if the coronavirus enters the army: thoughts on a pandemic

And if the coronavirus enters the army: thoughts on a pandemic

The panic associated with the spread of coronavirus, with a pandemic and the consequences for the economy and culture of not only individual countries, but of humanity as a whole, could not but raise quite reasonable questions for the military. And what happens if the virus is detected in military units? How, under such conditions, can the army fulfill the tasks assigned to it? Can the army really help in eliminating the danger?


Agree, the questions are not idle. With any attitude to a pandemic, the army causes a large number of fears in the majority of the population.

Firstly, military teams are the best suited for the spread of the virus. A large number of people concentrated in one place does not contribute to limiting contacts. Imagine what will happen if the coronavirus enters the closed part, for example, the IKS? Or a compound that controls intercontinental ballistic missiles?

Secondly, modern weapons often require a crew to function properly. The absence of even one of the crew members will lead to the loss of part of the combat effectiveness of the entire system. If necessary preventive measures with contactees, infection of one team member leads to automatic isolation of the entire crew.

Thirdly, traditionally in Russia it is the army that provides quarantine compliance measures. Army units block the infected area. Army doctors, along with civilian specialists, are directly involved in working with patients. The army provides a quarantine zone with everything you need, from mobile hospitals to food and hygiene.

Fourthly, it is the army that possesses the necessary equipment and machinery that are needed during disinfection, degassing, and decontamination. Equipment that can eliminate large foci of infection. Moreover, units and parts of CBR protection can do this in all environments.

Let’s try to figure out what our military can oppose to the coronavirus. Moreover, there is nothing to think out here. Most of the activities are practiced on exercises, information about which is quite accessible to those interested. So, what will happen if the military gets information that a coronavirus epidemic is threatening some kind of closed garrison?

First of all, army units block the area of ​​infection. On all roads, roadblocks are set up that are not allowed into the affected area of ​​civilians or are allowed after checking for viruses and processing equipment. This is a necessary measure. Just because modern man is so arranged that there are surely “extremes” who just desperately need to penetrate into this zone.

Further, inside the zone, full RCB reconnaissance will be carried out. Samples of land, air, water will be taken. This is necessary in order to determine the degree of infection and the type of virus that caused the outbreak.

A simple question immediately arises: why all this? After all, it is clear that this is a coronavirus.

The fact is that experts need facts. Until now, no one can name exactly the ways of the spread of infection. And the laboratory, which leads the work in this direction, is located in Novosibirsk. The military simply cannot wait for the results.

What happens next is no secret to most readers. Units are being deployed for processing equipment, personnel, terrain, and weapons. Work control is carried out using chemical reconnaissance vehicles RXM-6. The terrain and cars that somehow fall into the territory of the zone, and this, given the road network, is quite possible. A transit car is simply forced to enter the zone for a couple of kilometers. The highway is so built. And life, even with the threat of infection, can not be stopped. Someone always needs to urgently take something.

By the way, what I wrote above has already been done. This was reported to me by just one of the motorists, who on March 12 went to the cottage near Volgograd. Well, he became a participant in the exercises of the RBM regiment to repel a viral attack on a closed military garrison. Masked armed men stopped him on the road and sent him to the car wash. They washed it qualitatively from the autofill station (ARS-14KM) and sent on.

He told me about this incident with a laugh, but then admitted that his heart skipped a beat. It was when I saw the "astronauts" in chemical protection and with spray guns in their hands. Has something happened? Our people in this regard, as it turned out, prepared. I’m not talking about the older generation, even the young people who were not particularly told about WMD at school understand. They calmed down quickly as soon as they learned that these were just teachings. Many remembered the "Golden Calf" ...

But such a rosy picture does not preclude the presence of already infected soldiers and officers in units. For this case, there are OMEDB (in teams), MedR or medical center (in regiments), MedV or center (in battalions) in units. There, quarantine points for sick people and contactees are organized. In this case, patients should be evacuated to hospitals as soon as possible.

As you can see, in general, the situation with coronavirus in the army is understandable. For all the dangers that a large crowd of people has in a pandemic, the army has a significant advantage. First of all, it is controllability. Any unit or part can be really isolated from the outside world or limit contacts to a minimum. And this is the key to a quick victory over the infection.

So we should treat the pandemic simply as another challenge to our army. Another call. You just need to work. No panic and fuss.
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  1. rocket757 16 March 2020 10: 05 New
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    For all the dangers that a large crowd of people has in a pandemic, the army has a significant advantage.

    The advantage in the data, in specific circumstances, is the community where strict discipline is observed, in conjunction with other measures taken to prevent the spread of infection.
    1. Insurgent 16 March 2020 10: 09 New
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      And if the coronavirus enters the army: thoughts on a pandemic

      The army is young, it will survive.

      Coronavirus statistics by age prepared by Chinese scientists

      Scientists warn that those people who are chronically ill, the elderly, are male, are at risk of death from coronavirus. The minimum percentage of infected, in turn, is recorded among children.

      Chinese researchers have identified for whom the new coronavirus is deadly, and for whom the disease will go away easily, therefore it will not cause serious harm. The full results can be found on the pages of the Chinese Journal of Epidemiology.

      Specialists analyzed more than 70 thousand cases of infection (since the beginning of the spread of the virus, this study is the largest). They noted that with mild to moderate symptoms, the disease occurs in 80,9 percent of cases.

      It is reported that the elderly are at risk (maximum mortality rate, namely 14,8, is observed among them).

      Among children under 9 years of age, fatal cases were not recorded. The study noted that there were 2 episodes of infection in newborns who caught the virus from their mothers.

      Mortality in the age group up to 39 years is formed at the level of 0,2%. With age, this indicator increases (for example, 0,4% for 40-year-olds).

      Mortality in the age group up to 70 years reaches an indicator of 8 percent. Further it continues to grow.
      1. Pessimist22 16 March 2020 10: 38 New
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        Judging by the statistics of deaths, its virulence decreases after a few weeks they will forget about it.
        1. bk316 16 March 2020 12: 16 New
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          Judging by the statistics of deaths, its virulence decreases after a few weeks they will forget about it.

          How did the experts with the blonde’s brain get me? am
          At least I have studied the thesaurus, and where does virulence and the number of deaths?
          And about a few weeks, well, I understand a couple of months ago, foolish people could write such a thing, but now it’s only ancephalus ....
          1. Pessimist22 16 March 2020 14: 37 New
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            Do you have brains from a blonde? I am surprised.
      2. Hagalaz 16 March 2020 10: 42 New
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        In addition, I believe that it is easier in the army to introduce quarantine measures. Discipline, lack of civilian freemen, deliberately limited, difficult to access territory of deployment, compulsory sanitary measures, the introduction of barracks.
        1. Insurgent 16 March 2020 10: 46 New
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          Quote: Hagalaz
          In addition, I believe that it is easier in the army to introduce quarantine measures.

          Absolutely.
          EVEN in DNI, vaccination against influenza in the fall, was carried out directly on a position.
          "On the job." A company paramedic came up, everyone’s nudge, and that’s all ...

          100% coverage ...
          1. Hagalaz 16 March 2020 10: 48 New
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            And it is right! For nefig. In civilian life, you can still get along. But here, call lads ....
        2. Lopatov 16 March 2020 17: 46 New
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          Quote: Hagalaz
          In addition, I believe that it is easier in the army to introduce quarantine measures.

          Everything is not so curly.
          And regular outbreaks of flu, pneumonia, and even mumps in military units are guaranteed by that ...
          1. Hagalaz 16 March 2020 19: 21 New
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            Yes, it’s not a matter of what may break out, but how there is every opportunity to fight it. Here, on the one hand, all the conditions for infection are in the form of a large concentration of people, but on the other hand, all the cards are in hand to stop the outbreak. If only negligence was not shown. And this conversation is of a different level.
            1. Lopatov 16 March 2020 20: 13 New
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              Quote: Hagalaz
              and how there is every opportunity to fight.

              Yeah ... I remember how they fought. They gave everyone the opportunity to get sick.
              1. Hagalaz 16 March 2020 21: 48 New
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                Well, everyone has different memories.
                1. Lopatov 16 March 2020 23: 15 New
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                  That's the whole point, I saw quite a lot. Two flu and mumps at school. three flu and pneumonia in the troops.
                  Pneumonia with three corpses and one commissar per regiment. Well, the pig, though without corpses, but with powerful complications.
                  1. Hagalaz 16 March 2020 23: 37 New
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                    Yes, I understand what it is all about; I didn’t fall off the moon. Just personal experience is somewhat more favorable.
            2. UAZ 452 16 March 2020 21: 58 New
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              Ongoing training of ceremonial boxes, which for some reason no one relates to mass events that are supposedly banned in the army - negligence? If so, then it is ubiquitous in the army. Or someone somewhere canceled the regular construction of the entire personnel of the unit? I have not heard about this. But is this a mass event? This is a building! Front drill! Parade! And mass events were canceled, as ordered.
              1. Lopatov 16 March 2020 23: 09 New
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                Quote: UAZ 452
                to mass events that are supposedly prohibited in the army

                "Mass events" in the army cannot be prohibited. In the army, even eating is a mass event.
        3. New Year day 17 March 2020 11: 37 New
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          Quote: Hagalaz
          in the army it is easier to introduce quarantine measures. Discipline, lack of civilian freemen

          How is the situation with the Ulyanovsk Suvorov School and opisthorchiasis? How much sick and under what conditions?
      3. svp67 16 March 2020 10: 52 New
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        Quote: Insurgent
        Statistics


      4. Avior 16 March 2020 10: 56 New
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        clear.
        most dangerous for generals .....
    2. Reptiloid 16 March 2020 10: 55 New
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      Quote: rocket757
      .... The advantage in the data, in specific circumstances, is the community where strict discipline is observed, in conjunction with other measures taken to prevent the spread of infection.
      Ett yes! Only the measures of personal prevention are still not very clear. Despite the fact that I still need work.
      There is a conversation between the professor-pulmonologist on the network, it turns out in 2002 there was a similar situation. And it seems they didn’t talk about it then.
      1. rocket757 16 March 2020 11: 21 New
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        The usual preventive and hygiene measures ... nothing really new.
        We were sent an order, according to those measures and were reminded once again - he got sick, stay at home, not a foot at work.
        The business trips were canceled, and the authorities who returned from there were quarantined home.
  2. kjhg 16 March 2020 10: 09 New
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    Even, God forbid, in the most unfavorable course of events with the virus in the country, the army should not suffer much. From this virus, the elderly die, mostly from 60 years old and above, who are more likely to produce some kind of protein that does not allow the immune system to overcome the virus
    1. carstorm 11 16 March 2020 10: 20 New
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      the point is not only in the military. they have families. I have little idea of ​​the psychological state of drugs when, for example, someone is sick in their family. I personally have not encountered this in droves. This can also make a big difference.
    2. Doctor 16 March 2020 10: 40 New
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      which produce some kind of protein that prevents the immune system from fighting the virus

      They have no protein. It's just that in a young one, the entire surface of the alveoli in the lungs works, and with age, healthy tissue is replaced by sclerotic. There are few reserves.
      1. bk316 16 March 2020 12: 18 New
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        It's just that in a young one, the entire surface of the alveoli in the lungs works, and with age, healthy tissue is replaced by sclerotic.

        Good explanation, BUT wrong, unfortunately. sad
        1. Doctor 16 March 2020 12: 41 New
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          Good explanation, BUT wrong, unfortunately.

          What, the elderly do not have pneumosclerosis?
          1. bk316 16 March 2020 13: 17 New
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            What, the elderly do not have pneumosclerosis?

            There is of course, but the severity of the disease is determined by the suppression of immunity and the subsequent accession of concomitant infections. Clinically proven. Directly from respiratory failure, with proper treatment for coronavirus, they do not die.
            1. UAZ 452 16 March 2020 22: 03 New
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              Do not mislead people. It is from her that they die. If from concomitant infections, antibiotics would help, and they are just ineffective. And what you write is more characteristic of pneumonia with influenza.
  3. bessmertniy 16 March 2020 10: 13 New
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    The army will carry coronavirus as a mild flu, as it is deadly for older ages, and not for young people in good shape. Another thing is that everything possible must be done so that the army does not become a breeding ground for the disease.
    1. UAZ 452 16 March 2020 22: 11 New
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      Can you count? If we take only young people - they have a mortality rate of 0,2%, that is, 1 out of 500 cases dies. How many troops do we have? About 700 thousand. With a 70-80 percent incidence (Grandma Merkel scared the Germans with such numbers, it is quite plausible) - under a thousand deaths in the coming months. Nothing to worry about? But among the officers and warrant officers, civilian personnel, those who are over 40 and 50 are quite enough, and there the mortality rate is several times higher. And military hospitals do not have the right to refuse treatment of medical care, members of their families, and they are many times more than existing ones. That is, the resuscitation of military hospitals will be (if the Italian scenario is implemented) clogged to the eyeballs, like civilian hospitals. So your optimism, unfortunately, is unfounded. There is no need to panic, but hatred-inspiring moods are usually too expensive then.
  4. carstorm 11 16 March 2020 10: 14 New
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    In connection with the threat of the spread of coronavirus infection, the Ministry of Defense of Russia has organized the necessary work aimed at ensuring and maintaining sanitary and epidemiological well-being among the personnel of the Armed Forces. This was stated by the head of the Main Military Medical Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation Dmitry Trishkin. This is March 6th said. Even before the pandemic was announced. Or if it is customary for us, now anyone who sneezes will be dragged to the medical unit even if he does not want to) The principle is better to stay in the army since the time of King Gorokh)
    1. UAZ 452 16 March 2020 22: 14 New
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      Training parades temporarily canceled? Or does this not apply to public events? If you have not canceled (and this is exactly so), then for now the price is worthless for the brave statements and other window dress.
  5. a.hamster55 16 March 2020 10: 48 New
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    Well, as it should be, probably many know. But in reality, in the first-aid posts there is no necessary number of masks, they have long forgotten or scored about PCRs - there are no them in hospitals either. Of course, there is a loaf for delivering the sick person, but what the hell are the sick officers transported to the hospital by private transport. So it turns out that the author of this opus is a custom PR man divorced from life's realities. Shame, not the Army.
    1. Old bun 16 March 2020 17: 38 New
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      Masks for healthy people will not help. the mask is only for the patient, so it carries less
      1. UAZ 452 16 March 2020 22: 15 New
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        But for this, they, too, must, at a minimum, be available.
  6. svp67 16 March 2020 10: 50 New
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    And what happens if the virus is detected in military units?
    So they will begin to act in the conditions of the enemy using biological weapons.
    I remember how dysentery was revealed in the GSVG in the remrot ... a month and a half in an open field, in quarantine, and everything is fine, there are no losses ...
    In the Far East, in part, there was an outbreak of lice .... once again convinced that the Russian diesel fuel works wonders ... managed without quarantine.
    In the Urals, a soldier showed tuberculosis, in an open form, brought a company from the citizen, 180 people, a couple of months under observation, daily intake of preventive drugs, in the morning, in the personal presence of the battalion’s nurse’s assistant ... (Light-Eugenia, fighting girl, kingdom heaven for you ... and thanks for everything you did) and in the conditions of intensive cleaning ... there were no infections.
    So that it all depends on how you relate to the problem. And the army is not the best place where this coronavirus can "frolic"
    1. domokl 16 March 2020 19: 37 New
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      a month and a half in an open field, in quarantine, and everything is fine, there are no losses ...

      Something you didn’t really want to recover. In the early 80s, in the same training regiment, located on the border with the warring country, the same opportunity happened. The whole regiment was redeployed to field outhouses. And nothing. Instead of tea, a thorn was brewed. Guys flew in from Moscow in their buttonholes, which read in plain text that sly ones like snakes and drink weren’t fools. Before a meal, each fighter has a pill in his mouth, then they will see if he has a drink, and that’s it. Three days later, instead of zasr ... ev cucumbers ran through the desert ... There was no more time to heal. 3 months and on to the perfume ...
      1. svp67 16 March 2020 19: 51 New
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        Something you didn’t really want to recover.

        At that time, we were engaged in combat training ... these were our repairmen ... lived in "toilet-type toilets", and we shot, drove, and serviced the equipment. Somehow we didn’t have to be in the fields there, the tanks were transported in echelons, so from the echelon to the echelon ...
  7. Boratsagdiev 16 March 2020 10: 52 New
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    "...and if"
    1. Coronavirus has been around for a long time. Why such a panic?! ...
    2. Catchers have long known about him.
    3. I do not argue, a harmful infection (rapid exposure and widespread).
    4. Or really some kind of dangerous strain or create hype to distract people from pressing problems.
    5. it is strange that statistics on ordinary flu are not given ...
    1. aybolyt678 16 March 2020 12: 34 New
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      2. Catchers have long known about him.
      Dog lovers too. 20% of enteritis in puppies occurs in coronavirus enteritis
      Quote: BoratSagdiev
      5. it is strange that statistics on ordinary flu are not given ..

      nothing strange, flu is more dangerous
      Quote: BoratSagdiev
      Or really some kind of dangerous strain or create hype to distract people from pressing problems.

      The dollar is getting more expensive, oil is getting cheaper, some are buying up energy resources for paper, preparing for a crisis, illusionists are distracting attention ...
    2. UAZ 452 16 March 2020 22: 19 New
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      In a secular chronicle statistics are not given? On medical resources (quite openly available) they have already compared both the flu and SARS, and perhaps not gonorrhea. Google to help you.
  8. Scipio 16 March 2020 11: 08 New
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    It is very controversial, from my own experience I can say that if at least one gets sick in part, the virus will fly apart at lightning speed. Yes, young people, but in the army, immunity usually falls and gets weaker. At one time, together with 80 recruits from the European part, I was thrown into Transbaikalia, from a temperate climate to a sharply continental one. In winter, one guy from Orenburg fell ill and for several days almost the entire battalion was at a temperature! Only a maximum of 10 people were sent to the hospital, the rest were treated in part, there was no one to go to the outfits !!! The officers were at a loss, because for illnesses and other soldiers, they are deprived of bonuses! My officer personally bought me medicines and fruits! I will never forget the turn to the medical unit for an injection, which lasted at least 1,5 hours. The point is whether the officers will be able to take responsibility and take quick action, or will they be afraid to get a hat from their bosses
    1. carstorm 11 16 March 2020 11: 25 New
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      Believe me, they were not confused because of the premiums. it is state of emergency and at what through their fault. they didn’t take action and got a situation because of which the battalion was not combat-ready. for this, they do not deprive prizes, but much worse.
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        Perhaps in the medical unit I heard about premiums
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  10. Galleon 16 March 2020 11: 58 New
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    if coronavirus enters the army: thoughts on a pandemic

    I recall the beginning of one of the speeches of Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov before the military, when he still headed the department for working with the Armed Forces in the church:
    - (from the rostrum) - I always said that the army is the healthiest part of our society! And why?? But because the medical board.
    - (approving hum in the hall).
    Normally, everything will be with the army. This is a challenge no more than cold autumn rains or another ARVI campaign around Mother Russia. There is hardening, there is a bathhouse on Saturdays, linen is changed once a week. Everything will be fine.
    1. Titus Bibulus Schnuffiy 19 March 2020 00: 42 New
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      In addition to baths on Saturdays, there are operating showers in each company, and washing machines. But I'm not sure about hardening.
  11. aybolyt678 16 March 2020 12: 03 New
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    What happens if the coronavirus enters the army? 80% of the first patients will be ill in a mild form, donate blood, the plasma will be administered to seriously ill patients and they will recover! mid-20th century level.
  12. Ros 56 16 March 2020 12: 21 New
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    I did not understand what the article was about. I see only one meaning - loot.
  13. Vladimir61 16 March 2020 12: 22 New
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    With any attitude to a pandemic, the army causes a large number of fears in the majority of the population.
    Weird! It is in the army that it is easiest to organize control. What fear is worse, the army, with its functionality in the field of discipline, closeness, sanitary control or the same industrial enterprises, public services, not to mention the everyday communication of citizens in public places?
    The question posed contradicts the real status of public concerns!
  14. bk316 16 March 2020 12: 56 New
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    The question is really complicated. A bunch of aggravating and lightening moments.
    On the one hand, young people, on the other, in the army armor, immunity is weakened, on the one hand discipline on the other hand, crowding .....

    In general, I am amazed how much people are illiterate and self-confident.
    They confuse mortality and mortality, p factor and virulence, but give peremptory forecasts.
  15. Roman1234567 16 March 2020 13: 16 New
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    In this case, there are as many as three options ..
    Create:
    -operational headquarters;
    -working group;
    -coordinating council.
    1. Gvardeetz77 16 March 2020 15: 36 New
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      With a huge bunch of plans, the deadline for readiness and implementation of which is yesterday
  16. Mikhail3 16 March 2020 15: 32 New
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    Coronavirus is absolutely accurate, with 100% probability it will enter the army. This is not in the least doubt. The only way to maintain the combat effectiveness and operational capabilities of the army is to take control of the disease. Do not quarantine, limit distribution (it’s absolutely impossible to limit distribution), but simply ... let people get sick.
    Under the control of doctors, in hospitals and at home, with the creation of a special support service, according to an intelligible protocol, that is, if the disease does not proceed severely, you are treated at home, aggravated, you are being taken to the doctors, create conditions for prompt assistance right in the barracks, etc. Alas, I do not flatter myself with the hope that this, the only effective answer, will be applied.
    1. domokl 16 March 2020 19: 46 New
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      Quote: Mikhail3
      but just ... let people get sick.

      But nothing that during the illness part becomes unworkable? For most units and formations, a loss of 30-40 percent is critical ...
      1. Lopatov 16 March 2020 20: 15 New
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        Quote: domokl
        But nothing that during the illness part becomes unworkable?

        But there is no other way.
        1. UAZ 452 16 March 2020 22: 26 New
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          Everything would be fine, but a certain percentage needs mechanical ventilation. And the number of such devices is limited, and they did not count on such a need. In Italy, they are now lacking at all. Therefore, if everyone gets sick almost simultaneously, there will be many more dead than if the peak of the epidemic can be extended over time. Otherwise, in hospitals, you have to choose who to save - the soldier, the only son of his mother, a major, the father of three children or a retired colonel - an Afghan. These are today's everyday life of doctors in the mentioned Italy. Somehow does not appeal.
          1. Lopatov 16 March 2020 23: 07 New
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            Quote: UAZ 452
            Everything would be fine, but a certain percentage needs mechanical ventilation. And the number of such devices is limited

            You are confusing something.
            The number of non-mechanical ventilation devices, of which there are many in the country, is limited (more than 40 thousand only in medical institutions of the Ministry of Health)
            The number of extracorporeal membrane oxygenation apparatuses is limited (124 apparatuses). Which are needed if the ventilator does not help. That is, oxygen is not in the lungs (mechanical ventilation), but in the blood.
            1. UAZ 452 17 March 2020 22: 12 New
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              40 thousand ventilation devices to Russia ... We will not even specify that they are by no means waiting in the wings, but are actively used to treat other categories of patients, that is, their total number is not very equal to the reserve of ventilation devices. But let 40 thousand. For 140 million people. In Milan, 1500 vehicles per 1 thousand people. That is 400 times more by the number of inhabitants, and not enough. It is not difficult to calculate: if 4% of the population falls ill at the same time, it is 10 million. The need for mechanical ventilation according to various estimates at the level of 14 to 5% of patients. The average duration of the need for ventilation before the outcome (recovery or death) is about a week. Well, does the "multitude" of ventilators for the WHOLE 10 thousand, that is, one for 40-3 thousand people, reassure you? However, the number of medical and paramedical personnel capable of competently working with this technique, that is, resuscitation specialists and anesthetics nurses, will not be enough for this number. Alas. So let's save ourselves with prevention and quarantine measures. As for ECMO, I have not yet encountered data on the real effectiveness of this method in coronavirus infection. Oxygen directly into the blood is spectacular, but what to do next if the lung function is irreversibly lost?
              1. Lopatov 17 March 2020 22: 28 New
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                Quote: UAZ 452
                For 140 million people

                Does the entire population of Russia get seriously ill at the same time?
                Burning ...
                1. UAZ 452 19 March 2020 12: 29 New
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                  Have you noticed other figures in my comments? 10% of 140 million - 14 million, 5% of them in need of mechanical ventilation - 700 thousand. Now I'm burning.
                  1. Lopatov 19 March 2020 21: 42 New
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                    Quote: UAZ 452
                    Have you noticed other figures in my comments? 10% of 140 million - 14 million, 5% of them in need of mechanical ventilation - 700 thousand. Now I'm burning.

                    You again "did not notice" the word "at the same time"
                    1. UAZ 452 20 March 2020 00: 27 New
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                      And on what basis do you categorically reject the possibility of a simultaneous (within a week - such is the duration of the need for mechanical ventilation) disease of a critical number of citizens of the country? So that all 40 thousand ventilation devices (even if all of them were free initially, and no one except the coronavirus was ill anymore, which is impossible to imagine) should be occupied, with 5% of the number of patients, it is enough that 800 thousand Russians get sick in a week. This is only 0,5% of the total population. Is that such an unrealistic figure?
                      1. Lopatov 20 March 2020 15: 22 New
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                        And on what basis do you categorically reject the possibility of a simultaneous (within a week - such is the duration of the need for mechanical ventilation) disease of a critical number of citizens of the country?

                        Because in China this was not.
                      2. UAZ 452 21 March 2020 17: 17 New
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                        Will it be in Italy either? Do you swear mom?
    2. Mikhail3 17 March 2020 09: 50 New
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      But nothing that during the illness part becomes unworkable?
      Yeah. Nothing. Nothing at all. With a competent organization, 5% (and not forty percent of the losses ... measure your temperature. That you are specifically overheating) of civil losses will be reduced to 0,5% or less. But you still have to get sick. It's unavoidable.
      And the current policy of not recognizing the disease as an epidemic, with all its familiar meanness, is most effective. People should be ill and get sick. Get well and forget everything calmly. Attempts to chop the tail of a cat into pieces lead only to vain torment.
  • parusnik 16 March 2020 17: 04 New
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    Kronovirus will pass, they will again write about Ukraine ... How is it that someone sold to someone ... laughing
  • wooja 17 March 2020 02: 31 New
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    yes, the army isn’t particularly afraid of the virus ... such an outbreak was personally experienced in the valiant Soviet Army ..., unforgettable impressions, severe order, strings of soldiers carrying beds to the medical unit, mountains of garlic, flashes of UV lamps and the happiness of returning to the Native barracks .. ., the guard is like a vacation ..., for the army I am calm ...
  • Tektor 17 March 2020 11: 22 New
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    The army has pressure chambers in which patients and suspects on Covid-19 can be laid down, and where pneumonia can be significantly facilitated by creating an atmosphere of 100% oxygen. And such oxygen also kills any bacteria. Honey should be included in the diet, preferably sea buckthorn: warm water with such honey in 2 counts will cure the "dry throat".
  • Kaetani 18 March 2020 21: 10 New
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    In fact, at the moment, at the entrance to the unit, the temperature is already measured by the non-contact method for all incoming ones. It is clear that this is not a panacea, but an additional barrier to infection.
    If one of the family members is sick, then this will naturally affect. but here too much will depend on HOW the command of the unit will react to this moment. What conditions will be created for families of military personnel.
  • Petrol cutter 22 March 2020 20: 40 New
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    “As you can see, in general, the situation with coronavirus in the army is understandable. For all the dangers that a large crowd of people has in a pandemic, the army has a significant advantage. First of all, it is controllability. Any unit or unit can be really isolated from the outside world or limit contacts to a minimum, and this is the key to a quick victory over the infection.

    So we should treat the pandemic simply as another challenge to our army. Another call. You just need to work. No panic or fuss. "
    Just the army, this is the last center of a pandemic. Therefore, the sun always counts. Happen what.
    You don’t forget there. This is not a peaceful people. Wanted, left, wanted, came. I wanted to go to Italy at the weekend ... What the hell did you forget there ?!
    There is some kind of discipline. There is a place to be.
    Because it’s a vigorous army!