A video of the manufacture and testing of the Russian Orion UAV appeared on the Web

A video of the manufacture and testing of the Russian Orion UAV appeared on the Web

A video of the manufacture and testing of the Orion reconnaissance-drone drone appeared on the Web. A video on YouTube posted the LA MAGRA channel.


The video’s description says that Orion is a medium-altitude long-range unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) of long flight duration (MALE, Medium Altitude, Long Endurance) developed by Kronstadt (AFK Sistema). On-board equipment is intended for visual, radar or radio reconnaissance with the possibility of long patrols in a given area. The export version of the UAV is called Orion-E.

As previously reported, the Orion long-range reconnaissance UAV was created by the Kronstadt company as part of the Peacekeeper design and development project under a contract with the Ministry of Defense. The drone in the reconnaissance version and in shock execution passed tests in Syria. It is known that an UAV is capable of carrying up to 4 missiles, which can be used, for example, according to the enemy’s military equipment or its positions.


The maximum take-off weight of the drone is 1200 kg, the payload weight is 250-300 kg. The length of the apparatus is 8 m, the wingspan is 16 m, the flight duration is 24 hours. On production samples, the Russian APD-110/120 engine with a two-blade screw AV-115 with a diameter of 1,9 meters should be installed. A set of reconnaissance equipment is installed on the drone.

Earlier it was reported that the first batch of serial drones will enter the army before the end of 2019, currently the drone is undergoing military pilot operation.
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  1. Mountain shooter 15 March 2020 12: 48 New
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    Ours also flew ... so we’ll check which ones are better, I don’t believe that Turkish engineers are better than ours laughing
    1. Nikolay Ivanov_5 15 March 2020 12: 58 New
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      Turks are easier. They have electronic supplies and cooperation with experts from the military-industrial complex of the entire military-political bloc of NATO.
      1. Shurik70 15 March 2020 13: 18 New
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        Launch a television camera with radio control - any student can handle it.
        In a military drone, channel encryption is also added so that control is not intercepted. And it is advisable to have your own inertial positioner so that when the GPS signals are replaced, do not sit on the enemy airfield.
        In the shock, weapons and bombs are added.
        All this is not difficult. And any competent air-design bureau will do this quickly.
        Any terrorist group now makes bundles of light kamikaze drones.

        Software now plays a much larger role than hardware. This is exactly what the Turks proved by directing their artillery, destroying tanks with a single shot.
        We probably have such software. But advertising is desirable for him. On the kind that the Turks did for their UAVs in Idlib. It is with competent advertising in Russia that is traditionally bad.
        1. Nikolay Ivanov_5 15 March 2020 13: 25 New
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          Quote: Shurik70
          kamikaze drones any terrorist group

          It has long been no secret that militants rivet kamikaze beleopers with the help of NATO military experts.
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          2. Rzzz 15 March 2020 21: 31 New
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            Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5
            It has long been no secret that militants rivet kamikaze beleopers with the help of NATO military experts.


            Kamikaze drone and I will do it for you, with details from aliexpress. And I’m not a NATO specialist, I’m not a specialist at all, just a little in the subject.
            1. Nikolay Ivanov_5 15 March 2020 21: 42 New
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              Konashenkov spoke about the characteristics of the drones shot down at the Khmeimim base.
              RIA Novosti 24.09.2019/XNUMX/XNUMX


              ... "The ammunition release mechanism was much more interesting: when approaching a designated point, it was simply pushed and dropped from a height of one and a half to two kilometers," Konashenkov said.

              At the same time, the general urged to pay attention to the fact that someone is helping the militants, because many UAVs are being assembled according to someone’s schemes and patterns.
        2. Oquzyurd 15 March 2020 13: 30 New
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          And the design school is at a low level. I didn’t want to offend anyone, but it looks like a pencil ...
          1. LMN
            LMN 15 March 2020 14: 04 New
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            Quote: Oquzyurd
            And the design school is at a low level. I didn’t want to offend anyone, but it looks like a pencil ...

            Are you serious about design?
            1. Oquzyurd 15 March 2020 14: 07 New
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              Yes, vidukha is also not unimportant, for example, for advertising and recruiting clients in the future.
              1. LMN
                LMN 15 March 2020 14: 11 New
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                Quote: Oquzyurd
                Yes, vidukha is also not unimportant, for example, for advertising and recruiting clients in the future.

                Do you think the same Predator or Reaper design is better?)
                If at all it makes sense in some kind of design for a UAV that no one sees))
                1. Oquzyurd 15 March 2020 14: 29 New
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                  Yes, it’s better, and these models are also old by the standards of modern technology. From scratch, you need to create it with an awesome design, if you’ve already taken it. They see it, how it is seen. Different exhibitions, air shows and others, and there the first emotions are visual, then the filling , flight, opportunities.
                  1. Oleg1263 15 March 2020 15: 05 New
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                    In my humble opinion, this is a weapon, and a weapon must meet three requirements - it must be functional, like a brick, reliable, like a brick, and cost like a brick. Everything in it should be subordinate to the functional, and, already, it should determine the design. You can check my arguments on the most successful and massive types of weapons. At the same exhibitions, everyone is primarily interested in the experience of combat use and not in any way design.
                  2. ApJlekuHo 15 March 2020 16: 28 New
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                    "From scratch it would be necessary to create an awful design, if you have already taken it."

                    - You argue as a typical consumer, organizations planning the purchase of UAVs, will be the last to pay attention to design. The only thing that matters is the functionality and price, everything else is for fans of Hollywood “action movies”.
                    1. neri73-r 15 March 2020 20: 45 New
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                      Quote: ApJlekuHo
                      "From scratch it would be necessary to create an awful design, if you have already taken it."

                      - You argue as a typical consumer, organizations planning the purchase of UAVs, will be the last to pay attention to design. The only thing that matters is the functionality and price, everything else is for fans of Hollywood “action movies”.

                      Our man is from Israel or Ukraine?
              2. Piramidon 15 March 2020 17: 29 New
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                Quote: Oquzyurd
                And the design school is low ....
                Yes, vidukha is also not unimportant, for example, for advertising and recruiting clients in the future.

                Yeah, fasten the chrome bumpers, moldings, spoilers, and paste the steering wheels with crocodile skin. This is a fighting vehicle, the main thing is functionality. "You checkers, or go?"
                1. Oquzyurd 15 March 2020 17: 35 New
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                  You forgot about the chrome wheels, add to the list.
          2. neri73-r 15 March 2020 20: 43 New
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            Quote: Oquzyurd
            And the design school is at a low level. I didn’t want to offend anyone, but it looks like a pencil ...

            Viduha is not dictated by appearance, but by aerodynamics, alas, it is one for all.
            1. Oquzyurd 15 March 2020 21: 14 New
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              Why is Malay criticism annoying? Should everyone think the same thing? Aerodynamics is important, but analogs are also aerodynamics, also not in the form of a brick in appearance.
              1. neri73-r 15 March 2020 21: 17 New
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                Quote: Oquzyurd
                Why is Malay criticism annoying? Should everyone think the same thing? Aerodynamics is important, but analogs are also aerodynamics, also not in the form of a brick in appearance.

                You have already been answered - functionality is more important than appearance! If he is a “pencil” and does what is required of him, then super! And why spend money and time on a futuristic look.
                1. smile 15 March 2020 21: 55 New
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                  neri73-r
                  "why spend money and time on a futuristic look"
                  Duc with "force gangster" :))))
                  That is why some, we will not point fingers, gilding firearms triggers, wear long-toed shoes and paint drones with Atatürk’s personal signatures .... "so that it is beautiful, wow!" :)))
                  By the way, this applies not only to the Turks ... in any case - "not only all" :))))
                  Sometimes the "futuristic look" is justified .... but not in this case under discussion ....
                  But, apparently, for some, he is critical in evaluating the machine. Well, god be their judge. :)))) - In other words - they punished themselves. :))) Then - that's what they need. :)
                  So it goes.
          3. Saxahorse 16 March 2020 00: 44 New
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            Quote: Oquzyurd
            I didn’t want to offend anyone, but it looked like a pencil ...

            And that's bad. There is no characteristic hump for a directional satellite dish.
          4. Boratsagdiev 16 March 2020 11: 22 New
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            this is not a design, this is a disguised long-range cruise missile ...
            can compare with the original ... winked
        3. LMN
          LMN 15 March 2020 14: 02 New
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          A number of countries in the Middle East and North Africa have already expressed their interest in the drone, in particular, the UAE will test the complex on its territory.
        4. Askold Matveev 15 March 2020 14: 16 New
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          Quote: Shurik70
          In a military drone, channel encryption is also added so that control is not intercepted. And it is advisable to have your own inertial positioner so that when GPS signals are replaced, do not sit on the enemy airfield. Weapons and bombs are added to the drum, all of which are not difficult. And any competent air-design bureau will do this quickly.

          It remains to find this avia-design bureau, however: Tender for the development of LHC SD (Unmanned aerial range of medium range) or"Was announced on October 14, 2011. It was won by Transas (which then went through a reorganization and received the name Kronstadt) from St. Petersburg, a subsidiary owned by billionaire Yevtushenkov, who proposed the Orion project (or “Product 90 ″). Competing proposals were made by the companies Tupolev and Vega, but were rejected by the commission. "
          The Kronstad group has become known for the development of simulators
          And what is really the situation with the drone.
          The Russian Ministry of Defense has already ordered the Altair UAV in the 5-ton class of another company - Simonov Design Bureau from Kazan. Since July 2016, Altair has been undergoing tests, during which certain difficulties were identified. In developing Orion-2, Kronstadt challenges the Altair.
          The Kronstadt group of companies presented its line of unmanned aerial vehicles, including the Orion-E reconnaissance UAV, intended for export, at the opening International Air Show MACE-2019. This is stated on the company's website. According to the press service, the company presented three promising developments at its exhibition stand: multi-purpose UAVs of long duration Orion-E flight, layout non-aerodrome-based aircraft "Frigate", full-size layout unmanned aerial vehicle "Sirius".
          That is, firstly, the article itself is "bearded" and the second is all drones are presented as promising. two of which are layouts.
          According to the same Orion-E website, 3 to 6 units were manufactured, infa contradictory, they were most likely taken to tests in Syria, where, as the company’s representative said, a 25 kg bomb was dropped from Orion. OKB “ Aviaavtomatika ”from Kursk for the first time demonstrated three samples of guided bombs - one 25 kg caliber and two 50 kg each, specially designed for UAVs.
          1. neri73-r 15 March 2020 20: 47 New
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            I wonder where you found bombs of 25 and 50 kg?
        5. neri73-r 15 March 2020 20: 41 New
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          Quote: Shurik70
          Launch a television camera with radio control - any student can handle it.
          In a military drone, channel encryption is also added so that control is not intercepted. And it is advisable to have your own inertial positioner so that when the GPS signals are replaced, do not sit on the enemy airfield.
          In the shock, weapons and bombs are added.
          All this is not difficult. And any competent air-design bureau will do this quickly.
          Any terrorist group now makes bundles of light kamikaze drones.

          Software now plays a much larger role than hardware. This is exactly what the Turks proved by directing their artillery, destroying tanks with a single shot.
          We probably have such software. But advertising is desirable for him. On the kind that the Turks did for their UAVs in Idlib. It is with competent advertising in Russia that is traditionally bad.

          And what was their advertisement? Of the 15-16 UAV units, the Syrians were 8-9, then everything died out and the Ottoman fled to Moscow!
        6. Saxahorse 16 March 2020 01: 07 New
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          Quote: Shurik70
          All this is not difficult. And any competent air-design bureau will do this quickly.

          The engine is German. Optics South African. The satellite dish is only on the layout, i.e. not at all yet. But already ready to run in a series .. am
      2. Zaurbek 15 March 2020 13: 31 New
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        They still have one difficulty - satellite communications. That could be controlled from far
        1. Oquzyurd 15 March 2020 14: 05 New
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          They developed a program called Kemend. They don’t trust and rely on satellites. So, this program gives preference to ships, airplanes. Ground hospitals at different points and unite them as a network. In short, they can transmit to each other UAV and armament control on this platform, thereby extending the flight distance. They admit that they look at flying vehicles as a platform that delivers smart missiles, further, these missiles can be controlled by any of this network from a certain distance, to Rabl, aircraft, ground elementy.t.d.
          1. NN52 15 March 2020 15: 49 New
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            Oquzyurd (Jeyhun)
            You mean the satellites .... and the purpose of the equipment, which is in the photo, determine? Americans ..
            1. Sveta Vorontsova 15 March 2020 22: 07 New
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              The first iteration of the counterintelligence system entered service with the US Air Force in 2004, and so, they have their invisibles on their radar invisible :)))))
          2. Zaurbek 15 March 2020 18: 04 New
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            One option should not exclude another. And with us too
      3. Sveta Vorontsova 15 March 2020 22: 04 New
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        It's cool, but China drives all the electronics, and we have cooperation with them, Even by the type of American iPhones, Chinese with the American brand of the company.
    2. _Ugene_ 15 March 2020 13: 04 New
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      Ours also flew ... so we’ll check which ones are better, I don’t believe that Turkish engineers are better than ours
      maybe not better, but we lagged behind them decently in this thread, about 10 years, now it’s long to catch up
    3. svp67 15 March 2020 17: 03 New
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      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      I do not believe that Turkish engineers are better than ours

      Our engineers, most likely, are better ... we have a problem in another, where to get the modern element base for the equipment? Modern, with the right characteristics, but in the required quantities
  2. LMN
    LMN 15 March 2020 12: 51 New
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    Interesting cost ... what
    1. Golovan Jack 15 March 2020 12: 59 New
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      Quote: LMN
      Interesting cost ... what

      Are you planning to buy? wink
      1. LMN
        LMN 15 March 2020 13: 01 New
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        Quote: Golovan Jack
        Quote: LMN
        Interesting cost ... what

        Are you planning to buy? wink

        I’m thinking, I would say so. After the drones began to fall in Syria en masse .. winked
        1. Golovan Jack 15 March 2020 13: 12 New
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          Quote: LMN
          I think, I would say so. After drones massively began to fall in Syria ..

          Well, that’s right. The economy should be economical (c) laughing
          1. rich 15 March 2020 13: 23 New
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            Avionics
            The Orion has two payload compartments - a small compartment is located in the bow, and a second, more voluminous, in the central part of the fuselage. In the front compartment there is a gyro-stabilized optical-electronic viewing and retrieval system (MOES) developed by the Moscow-based NPK SPP based on the Argos platform, supplied by the South African affiliate of Airbus with DS Optronics. The MOES system has a diameter of 410 mm and a mass of 56 kg. It consists of two thermal imaging cameras with a variable angular field, a wide-angle television camera and a laser range finder / target designator. MOES can detect and track targets for guided weapons in automatic mode. In the central compartment, a platform with digital cameras or a surveillance radar can be placed, which is closed by a large fairing made of radio-transparent material. The radar for Orion is produced by the Moscow enterprise Fazotron-NIIR. Another option, designed to collect information about enemy air defense systems, is equipped with electronic and electromagnetic equipment.
            weaponry
            Representatives of Kronstadt refused to answer questions regarding the armed options of Orion, with the exception of a general comment that such an option could be developed. However, during the Army 2017 forum held in August 2017, Aviaavtomatika OKB "from Kursk for the first time demonstrated three samples of guided bombs - one 25 kg caliber and two 50 kg each, specially designed for UAVs. A company spokesman said a 25 kg bomb was dropped from Orion.
            All three samples of bombs have a rectangular body shape with a rounded nose and tail, but different lengths. To them are attached wings and stabilizers of various shapes, as well as guidance systems. The smallest of them weighing 25 kg has cruciform wings and plumage, as well as an inertial guidance system combined with GPS guidance. 50 kg bombs have two options: one with wings and cruciform stabilizers and an inertial guidance system, plus GPS, and the second with folding wings of a larger scope, located on top of the bomb, as well as laser and TV guidance systems. These bombs were presented along with the tactical UAV Jupiter-3 weighing 150 kg.
            The project of guided missiles for UAVs is a private initiative of the Aviaavtomatika Design Bureau, and is not funded by the Russian Ministry of Defense. KTRV Corporation is also apparently developing weapons for UAVs, but the results of these works have not yet been presented.
            1. Antidote 15 March 2020 14: 14 New
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              GPS guidance is very patriotic, for use in war either. However, nothing new.
          2. rich 15 March 2020 13: 25 New
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            "Orion" is the Russian analogue of the MQ-1 Reaper UAV and has a similar appearance to the American device. So, it has a V-shaped tail, it has a simple Rotax 914 engine rated at 86 kW (115 hp), equipped with a turbocharger to increase altitude. The two-blade screw AV-115 with a diameter of 1,9 meters is manufactured by Aerosila. For serial production, the Agat company, in cooperation with TsIAM, is developing the Russian APD-110/120 engine. “Orion” has a retractable landing gear with a nose landing gear, as well as a rear retractable crutch to protect the screw.

            The performance characteristics of the UAV "Orion"
            Wingspan, meters 16
            Length, meters 8
            Take-off weight, kg 1000
            Mass of standard payload, kg 60
            Maximum payload mass, kg 200
            Speed, km / h 120-200
            Ceiling, meters 7500
            Flight Duration, 24 hours
            Range of work, km 250
            Range when using a UAV repeater, km 300
            1. Zaurbek 15 March 2020 13: 33 New
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              The Ripper TVD has 1000 hp. he is more powerful.
            2. keeper03 15 March 2020 19: 48 New
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              We need a flock of kamikaze orions, so that in a pinch - one way! angry
              The question is in developing software and behavior models! Well, of course, for the price - not expensive. yes
  3. Out
    Out 15 March 2020 13: 08 New
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    And the details of the carbon fiber glider or what? And with manual manufacturing? Or is it a trial of forms only?
    1. LMN
      LMN 15 March 2020 13: 18 New
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      Quote: Out
      And the details of the carbon fiber glider or what? And with manual manufacturing? Or is it a trial of forms only?


      This is a serial model, as I understand it.
      According to Bogatikov, the first delivery of the device to the armed forces is planned for 2019. It is assumed that it will become an installation, but, despite this, already the first serial contract.
      1. Sky strike fighter 15 March 2020 13: 40 New
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        Not yet serial.
        Under the leadership of Dolzhenkov, an unmanned aerial vehicle Orion weighing one ton was developed. He has passed state tests and is preparing for serial production. Good experience has been gained in creating heavy drones. If a decision is made to begin work on creating unmanned aerial vehicles, the team led by Nikolai Dolzhenkov will be able to present to the customer as soon as possible a whole line of such drones, and in different weight categories. The general designer is sure of this.

        https://rg.ru/2020/03/14/rf-mozhet-sozdat-bespilotniki-dalnego-radiolokacionnogo-obnaruzheniia.html
        1. LMN
          LMN 15 March 2020 13: 47 New
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          Strange ...
          Kronstadt CEO Sergey Bogatikov said that serial production of the Orion drone reconnaissance for the Russian army has already begun. According to him, in the future it can reach 30 UAVs per year.
          1. Sky strike fighter 15 March 2020 17: 32 New
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            Quote: LMN
            Strange ...
            Kronstadt CEO Sergey Bogatikov said that serial production of the Orion drone reconnaissance for the Russian army has already begun. According to him, in the future it can reach 30 UAVs per year.

            Well, this is more an installation batch of UAVs, rather than serial. Serial production is still in preparation.
            Representatives of the Kronstadt development company announced the launch of mass production of the Orion reconnaissance-strike drone. The delivery of the first systems to the Russian army will begin already by the end of this year.


            It is reported that this batch is inherently more installation, but is included in the first, larger serial contract for deliveries to the Russian army. Now work is underway to create large-scale production, on which it will be possible to build up to seven such complexes a year - these are about 30 drones.


            It is noted that each complex will include from three to six drones, depending on the tasks.


            already in 2018, the drone made several dozen sorties in the Syrian Arab Republic, inflicting several bombing strikes on targets of militants of the Hayat Tahrir al-Sham organization banned in Russia and its allies of the “moderate opposition” group in the north of Hama province.

            https://anna-news.info/rossiya-nachala-serijnoe-proizvodstvo-razvedyvatelno-udarnogo-bpla-orion/
        2. LMN
          LMN 15 March 2020 13: 48 New
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          By your link, we are talking about a particular drone drone. yes
  4. Thrifty 15 March 2020 13: 09 New
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    Previously, you had to move! The Turks have wiped our nose! In service already 10 years ago, we had to have shock drones! !!
    1. Piramidon 15 March 2020 17: 50 New
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      Quote: Thrifty
      Previously, you had to move! In service already 10 years ago, we had to have shock drones! !!

      Well, why now pluck hair in all places? In hindsight, we are all smart. Come up with a "time machine" and roll back 10 years ago.
  5. knn54 15 March 2020 13: 13 New
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    I would like that the mass of the payload could be increased., By a hundred / one and a half. And in the long run, flight duration and altitude.
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      bar 15 March 2020 13: 34 New
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      There and so, with the declared flight duration of 24 hours, a gas tank of 500 liters is needed, what kind of load capacity is it. And why should he? On the contrary.
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        This means that engines need more economical ones - analogues fly at least 30 hours. And with a weight of -1200 carrying a payload of up to 300 kg is not the best option to interest, for example, a foreign buyer.
        1. bar
          bar 15 March 2020 14: 07 New
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          We need a lot of better. But where can I get this? With its design school, a huge failure, for the purchase of imports - sanctions. This is good for the Turks, they buy Austrian rotaxes for their drones and do not steam.
          1. Oquzyurd 15 March 2020 14: 40 New
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            “It’s good for the Turks, they buy Austrian rotaxes for their drones and don’t take a steam bath.” They take a steam bath and let in their own PD-170 engines. In the video, the delivery of engines to the UAV manufacturer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCu70Of3y2Y
  6. Ross xnumx 15 March 2020 13: 24 New
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    You, excuse me, if something is wrong, this manual production reminded me how our team of Uzbeks poured foundations for cottages and did waterproofing for the outdoor pool. Scissors, brushes and balonchiki just one to one.
    Earlier it was reported that the first batch of serial drones will enter the army before the end of 2019, currently the drone is undergoing military pilot operation.

    The trend of eternal promises and non-binding deadlines is simply amazing. Wherever you stick, just take it ... Apparently, it should be so? Or is it digitalization in action?
    Quote: LMN
    Interesting cost ...

    Almost like YotaPhone ... Proportional to weight ...
    They put experiments there, and you ask about the price ... This is how to approach a peasant that "pokes" tomato seeds into the ground and ask: "How much are the tomatoes?" wassat
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      LMN 15 March 2020 13: 51 New
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      Kronstadt CEO Sergey Bogatikov said that serial production of the Orion drone reconnaissance for the Russian army has already begun. According to him, in the future it can reach 30 UAVs per year.

      According to Bogatikov, the first delivery of the device to the armed forces is planned for 2019. It is assumed that it will become an installation, but, despite this, already the first serial contract.


      What seeds? If we are already talking about mass production.
      1. Ross xnumx 15 March 2020 14: 34 New
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        Quote: LMN
        What seeds? If we are already talking about mass production.

        Do you distinguish trial operation from mass production? Su-57 is also in serial production, like the T-14, as well as the Coalition ...
        Here I can say for sure the S-400, is in mass production. But never once was there a publication based on the results of its combat use ...
        By the way, what brand is your phone?
        1. LMN
          LMN 15 March 2020 14: 58 New
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          Quote: ROSS 42
          Quote: LMN
          What seeds? If we are already talking about mass production.

          Do you distinguish trial operation from mass production? Su-57 is also in serial production, like the T-14, as well as the Coalition ...
          Here I can say for sure the S-400, is in mass production. But never once was there a publication based on the results of its combat use ...
          By the way, what brand is your phone?

          Limited edition, this is also a series. You were clearly told that the device went into series. It will be necessary, up to 30 UAVs per year will be done!
          Seeds, tomatoes, S-400, telephone ... Can you express your thoughts more clearly? Otherwise, I don’t understand what you want to tell me. hi
    2. oprovergatel 26 March 2020 16: 35 New
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      Quote: ROSS 42
      Scissors, brushes and balonchiki just one to one.


      This is what work with fiberglass looks like. Precisely scissors, brushes ... You can google
  7. bar
    bar 15 March 2020 13: 24 New
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    Small fry. Waiting for the "hunter" to be adopted.
    1. Zaurbek 15 March 2020 13: 37 New
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      Hunter dear niche bird .. We much more need daily workers like Orion, ripper, global hawk ......! Although if you think about it, besides the glider in the Hunter there should be a lot in common with ordinary UAVs of a similar size.
      1. bar
        bar 15 March 2020 14: 00 New
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        I agree with all this. But the very idea of ​​a heavy invisible drone is simply wonderful and breakthrough. I look forward to being brought to mind.
  8. askort154 15 March 2020 14: 13 New
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    I read all the comments, mostly blah, blah - about UAVs. Conclusion: Chef, I am gone - we are behind everywhere. And this is understandable, a living person needs everything at once. But this does not happen in life. Before screaming, you’ve lost everything, “compare the military budgets of the USA, China and Russia! A hundred times difference is not in our favor. But Russia, with such a modest budget, has come out on top in many strategic weapons.
    And in hypersound at first. And this is the main trump card for our defense.
    And UAVs are a tactical weapon class. The time will come, and close this niche.
    Close, close! If we moan less and shout from each sofa - “blah blah blah”! yes hi
    1. Ross xnumx 15 March 2020 14: 45 New
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      Quote: askort154
      I read all the comments, mostly blah, blah - about UAVs.

      Well, not a UAV, but a UAV ...
      Quote: askort154
      But Russia, with such a modest budget, came out on top in many strategic weapons.

      Who would mind ... Believe us, our salaries are very modest, and pensions ... But, you know, why the military budget is modest? We have nothing to spend money on ... Production is divided into segments and personnel are absent. That is why the costs are modest ...
      Quote: askort154
      And in hypersound at first. And this is the main trump card for our defense.

      The trump card is the main thing if he beats someone else's card, and does not lie in the sleeve ...
      By the way, don’t you know who our main advantage is, who is this trump card?

      So, calm down, come and ruin everything ...
    2. Sky strike fighter 15 March 2020 15: 55 New
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      And in hypersound at first. And this is the main trump card for our defense.

      Competitors are on the alert. For example, Japan.
      Two hypersonic weapon systems are being developed in Japan - a missile system with a Hypersonic Gloc Project Gliding Projectiles (HVGP), and a Hypersonic Cruising Missile (HCM) hypersonic cruise missile. Each of the systems will be equipped with different types of warheads and will be able to hit both surface and ground targets.

      https://warspot.ru/16828-yaponiya-rassekretila-giperzvukovye-razrabotki
    3. TatarinSSSR 15 March 2020 23: 02 New
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      Your blah blah blah also got a little bit. About budget comparison. Remind me how many stolen all kinds of bureaucrats Zakharchenko and the like? In billions? Remind me how many billions were taken abroad by Russian "business" under the roof of the bureaucrats of the Russian Federation? Remind me how much is stolen per year from the budget according to the same FSB? to remind you how much top managers of state and company corporations get a parachute in bucks for Russian oil and gas sold abroad, for gold and diamonds, for rare metal, for timber, for coal? And how many ships and submarines were killed by fires and accidents during the “modernization and repair” and for what amounts? Who is to blame for this - in the low military budget of Russia? USA? Or NATO? Or is it the Russians who plundered their budget so that the military did not have enough money ??? so blah blah blah strangers is just yours.
  9. askort154 15 March 2020 15: 24 New
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    Ross xnumx
    So, calm down, come and ruin everything ...

    And I was not excited. I voiced common truth. If you do not understand, then again in a nutshell - I have been living for a long time, I have seen a lot. And whiners, they were and are in all groups.
    Including on this site. When a person is in place, he knows his job and performs it qualitatively, he has no time and desire to exchange himself for "nagging".
    "Whiners" - bark beetles of the state. So they don’t “ruin anything, even in their family, not to mention state problems. hi
  10. TatarinSSSR 15 March 2020 22: 53 New
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    My God, you are a poor airport, Taxiing and GDP Sovdep plates are not even in contact. You can here any number of garlopanit about "everything is super!", But this is a shame. Even Turkey took a long time ago and did everything, long ago riveted drone UAVs. And gouged half of the Syrian armored vehicles with UAVs. Already in combat !!! And we have all the tests and tests of a single sample. And therefore, even if they did not make people laugh, they did not show this bullshit with rivets on the plates. In the entire civilized world of UAVs, screw-type military vehicles have long been the norm. And only with us is a great achievement. So we will be another 10 years at least dive NURSami on target with SU-25 50 years ago.
  11. Alexander X 15 March 2020 23: 29 New
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    I want to add a little about "made on the knee": the manufacture of tooling, well, dies, dies, large-sized vacuum furnaces, etc., is a very expensive affair. Therefore, they make an experimental batch “on the knee”. A series will go, there will be a corresponding equipment ...
  12. Insurgent 16 March 2020 01: 18 New
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    News, definitely - good

    In the video, what I noticed - gluing the airframe body is done manually.
    Actually, Turkish UAVs are manufactured using similar technology.

    Therefore, it is interesting whether this process of automation (robotization) lends itself, or is work so specific that only a person can perform it?
    1. Insurgent 16 March 2020 01: 34 New
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      I watched the video to the end, it turned out that the developer still had a “backlog” of at least one UAV good
    2. Alexey from Perm 16 March 2020 02: 36 New
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      for a prototype, a person always works, and then automation is necessary to reduce the cost of production. But this is in theory, but in practice you yourself know ...
  13. Alexey from Perm 16 March 2020 02: 35 New
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    Armata was also promised for a long time in the troops, but still not. The promised 3 years waiting
    1. vik669 16 March 2020 22: 32 New
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      We looked at the parade - and soon enough something else will be shown that has no analogs in the world!
      1. Alexey from Perm 16 March 2020 23: 38 New
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        no, they won’t show, there’s no election. Amendments to the Constitution before
  14. Antidote 16 March 2020 08: 40 New
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    UAB 25kg to Orion
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    The export version of the UAV is called "Orion-E" - well, I hope they have already sold it to the Turks or ...!