A video of the manufacture and testing of the Russian Orion UAV appeared on the Web

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A video of the manufacture and testing of the Russian Orion UAV appeared on the Web

A video of the manufacture and testing of reconnaissance and strike drone "Orion". The YouTube video was posted by the LA MAGRA channel.

The video’s description says that Orion is a medium-altitude long-range unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) of long flight duration (MALE, Medium Altitude, Long Endurance) developed by Kronstadt (AFK Sistema). On-board equipment is intended for visual, radar or radio reconnaissance with the possibility of long patrols in a given area. The export version of the UAV is called Orion-E.



As previously reported, the Orion long-duration reconnaissance UAV was created by Kronshtadt as part of the Inokhodets R&D project under a contract with the Ministry of Defense. The drone in reconnaissance and strike versions was tested in Syria. It is known that the UAV is capable of carrying up to 4 missiles, which can be used, for example, against enemy military equipment or against its positions.


Maximum takeoff weight drone - 1200 kg, payload weight - 250-300 kg. The length of the device is 8 m, the wingspan is 16 m, the flight duration is 24 hours. On serial samples, the Russian APD-110/120 engine with a two-blade AB-115 propeller with a diameter of 1,9 meters should be installed. A complex of reconnaissance equipment is installed on the drone.

Earlier it was reported that the first batch of serial drones will enter the army before the end of 2019, currently the drone is undergoing military pilot operation.
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  1. +10
    15 March 2020 12: 48
    Ours also flew ... so we’ll check which ones are better, I don’t believe that Turkish engineers are better than ours laughing
    1. +21
      15 March 2020 12: 58
      Turks are easier. They have electronic supplies and cooperation with experts from the military-industrial complex of the entire military-political bloc of NATO.
      1. +17
        15 March 2020 13: 18
        Launch a television camera with radio control - any student can handle it.
        In a military drone, channel encryption is also added so that control is not intercepted. And it is advisable to have your own inertial positioner so that when the GPS signals are replaced, do not sit on the enemy airfield.
        In the shock, weapons and bombs are added.
        All this is not difficult. And any competent air-design bureau will do this quickly.
        Any terrorist group now makes bundles of light kamikaze drones.

        Software now plays a much bigger role than hardware. This is exactly what the Turks proved by directing their artillery, destroying tanks with a single shot.
        We probably have such software. But advertising is desirable for him. On the kind that the Turks did for their UAVs in Idlib. It is with competent advertising in Russia that is traditionally bad.
        1. +5
          15 March 2020 13: 25
          Quote: Shurik70
          kamikaze drones any terrorist group

          It has long been no secret that militants rivet kamikaze beleopers with the help of NATO military experts.
          1. The comment was deleted.
          2. +3
            15 March 2020 21: 31
            Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
            It has long been no secret that militants rivet kamikaze beleopers with the help of NATO military experts.


            Kamikaze drone and I will do it for you, with details from aliexpress. And I’m not a NATO specialist, I’m not a specialist at all, just a little in the subject.
            1. 0
              15 March 2020 21: 42
              Konashenkov spoke about the characteristics of the drones shot down at the Khmeimim base.
              RIA Novosti 24.09.2019/XNUMX/XNUMX


              ... "Much more interesting was the mechanism for dropping ammunition: when approaching the designated point, it was simply pushed and dropped from a height of one and a half to two kilometers," Konashenkov said.

              At the same time, the general urged to pay attention to the fact that someone is helping the militants, because many UAVs are being assembled according to someone’s schemes and patterns.
        2. -13
          15 March 2020 13: 30
          And the design school is at a low level. I didn’t want to offend anyone, but it looks like a pencil ...
          1. LMN
            +8
            15 March 2020 14: 04
            Quote: Oquzyurd
            And the design school is at a low level. I didn’t want to offend anyone, but it looks like a pencil ...

            Are you serious about design?
            1. -14
              15 March 2020 14: 07
              Yes, vidukha is also not unimportant, for example, for advertising and recruiting clients in the future.
              1. LMN
                +8
                15 March 2020 14: 11
                Quote: Oquzyurd
                Yes, vidukha is also not unimportant, for example, for advertising and recruiting clients in the future.

                Do you think the same Predator or Reaper design is better?)
                If at all it makes sense in some kind of design for a UAV that no one sees))
                1. -7
                  15 March 2020 14: 29
                  Yes, it’s better, and these models are also old by the standards of modern technology. From scratch, you need to create it with an awesome design, if you’ve already taken it. They see it, how it is seen. Different exhibitions, air shows and others, and there the first emotions are visual, then the filling , flight, opportunities.
                  1. +11
                    15 March 2020 15: 05
                    In my humble opinion, this is a weapon, and a weapon must meet three requirements - it must be functional, like a brick, reliable, like a brick, and cost as much as a brick. Everything in it must be subordinated to functionality, and it must determine the design. You can check my arguments on the most successful and mass-produced types of weapons. At those same exhibitions, everyone is primarily interested in the experience of combat use and not in any way in design.
                  2. +11
                    15 March 2020 16: 28
                    "It would be necessary to create from scratch with an awesome design, since we have already taken it."

                    - You think like a typical consumer, organizations planning to purchase UAVs will be the last to pay attention to design. The only thing that matters is the functionality and the price, everything else is for fans of Hollywood "action movies".
                    1. -3
                      15 March 2020 20: 45
                      Quote: ApJlekuHo
                      "It would be necessary to create from scratch with an awesome design, since we have already taken it."

                      - You think like a typical consumer, organizations planning to purchase UAVs will be the last to pay attention to design. The only thing that matters is the functionality and the price, everything else is for fans of Hollywood "action movies".

                      Our man is from Israel or Ukraine?
              2. 0
                15 March 2020 17: 29
                Quote: Oquzyurd
                And the design school is low ....
                Yes, vidukha is also not unimportant, for example, for advertising and recruiting clients in the future.

                Yeah, screw on chrome bumpers, moldings, spoilers, and cover the steering wheel with crocodile skin. This is a fighting machine, the main thing is functionality. "Do you want checkers or to drive?"
                1. -5
                  15 March 2020 17: 35
                  You forgot about the chrome wheels, add to the list.
          2. +2
            15 March 2020 20: 43
            Quote: Oquzyurd
            And the design school is at a low level. I didn’t want to offend anyone, but it looks like a pencil ...

            Viduha is not dictated by appearance, but by aerodynamics, alas, it is one for all.
            1. 0
              15 March 2020 21: 14
              Why is Malay criticism annoying? Should everyone think the same thing? Aerodynamics is important, but analogs are also aerodynamics, also not in the form of a brick in appearance.
              1. +2
                15 March 2020 21: 17
                Quote: Oquzyurd
                Why is Malay criticism annoying? Should everyone think the same thing? Aerodynamics is important, but analogs are also aerodynamics, also not in the form of a brick in appearance.

                You have already been answered - functionality is more important than appearance! If he is a "pencil" and does what is required of him, then super! And why waste money and time on a futuristic look.
                1. 0
                  15 March 2020 21: 55
                  neri73-r
                  "why waste money and time on a futuristic look"
                  Duc with the "force of the gangster" :))))
                  That is why some, we will not point fingers, are engaged in gilding the triggers of firearms, wear shoes with long noses and paint drones with personal signatures of Ataturk .... "so that there is beauty, wow!" :)))
                  By the way, this concerns not only the Turks... in any case - "not only everyone" :))))
                  Sometimes a "futuristic look" is warranted .... but not in this case under discussion ....
                  But, apparently, for some, he is critical in evaluating the machine. Well, god be their judge. :)))) - In other words - they punished themselves. :))) Then - that's what they need. :)
                  So it goes.
          3. 0
            16 March 2020 00: 44
            Quote: Oquzyurd
            I didn’t want to offend anyone, but it looked like a pencil ...

            And that's bad. There is no characteristic hump for a directional satellite dish.
          4. -1
            16 March 2020 11: 22
            this is not a design, this is a disguised long-range cruise missile ...
            can compare with the original ... winked
        3. LMN
          +1
          15 March 2020 14: 02
          A number of countries in the Middle East and North Africa have already expressed their interest in the drone, in particular, the UAE will test the complex on its territory.
        4. +9
          15 March 2020 14: 16
          Quote: Shurik70
          In a military drone, channel encryption is also added so that control is not intercepted. And it is advisable to have your own inertial positioner so that when GPS signals are replaced, do not sit on the enemy airfield. Weapons and bombs are added to the drum, all of which are not difficult. And any competent air-design bureau will do this quickly.

          It remains to find this avia-design bureau, however: Tender for the development of LHC SD (Unmanned aerial range of medium range) or"Was announced on October 14, 2011. It was won by Transas (which then went through a reorganization and received the name Kronstadt) from St. Petersburg, a subsidiary of billionaire Yevtushenkov, which proposed the Orion project (or "product 90"). The competing proposals were made by Tupolev and Vega, but were rejected by the commission. "
          The Kronstad Group became famous for the development of simulators
          And what is really the situation with the drone.
          The Russian Ministry of Defense has already ordered the Altair UAV in the 5-ton class of another company - Simonov Design Bureau from Kazan. Since July 2016, Altair has been undergoing tests, during which certain difficulties were identified. In developing Orion-2, Kronstadt challenges the Altair.
          The Kronshtadt group of companies presented at the opened MACE-2019 International Airshow a line of its drones, including the Orion-E reconnaissance UAV, intended for export. This is stated on the company's website. According to the press service, the company presented three promising developments at its exhibition stand: the multipurpose long-duration UAV Orion-E, layout off-airfield aircraft "Fregat", full-size layout unmanned aerial vehicle "Sirius".
          That is, firstly, the article itself is "old" and secondly, all drones are presented as promising, two of which are mock-ups.
          As the same website says, "Orion-E" was manufactured from 3 to 6 units, the information is contradictory, most likely they were taken for testing to Syria, where, as stated by the representative of the company, a bomb weighing 25 kg was dropped from the "Orion". OKB "Aviaavtomatika" from Kursk demonstrated for the first time three samples of guided bombs - one caliber 25 kg and two 50 kg, specially developed for UAVs.
          1. -1
            15 March 2020 20: 47
            I wonder where you found bombs of 25 and 50 kg?
        5. -1
          15 March 2020 20: 41
          Quote: Shurik70
          Launch a television camera with radio control - any student can handle it.
          In a military drone, channel encryption is also added so that control is not intercepted. And it is advisable to have your own inertial positioner so that when the GPS signals are replaced, do not sit on the enemy airfield.
          In the shock, weapons and bombs are added.
          All this is not difficult. And any competent air-design bureau will do this quickly.
          Any terrorist group now makes bundles of light kamikaze drones.

          Software now plays a much bigger role than hardware. This is exactly what the Turks proved by directing their artillery, destroying tanks with a single shot.
          We probably have such software. But advertising is desirable for him. On the kind that the Turks did for their UAVs in Idlib. It is with competent advertising in Russia that is traditionally bad.

          And what was their advertisement? Of the 15-16 UAV units, the Syrians were 8-9, then everything died out and the Ottoman fled to Moscow!
        6. 0
          16 March 2020 01: 07
          Quote: Shurik70
          All this is not difficult. And any competent air-design bureau will do this quickly.

          The engine is German. Optics South African. The satellite dish is only on the layout, i.e. not at all yet. But already ready to run in a series .. am
      2. +1
        15 March 2020 13: 31
        They still have one difficulty - satellite communications. That could be controlled from far
        1. 0
          15 March 2020 14: 05
          They have developed a program called Kemend. Do not trust too much and rely on satellites. So, this program prefers ships, airplanes, ground stations at different points and connects them as a network. In short, they can transmit to each other. control of UAVs and weapons on this platform, thereby extending flight distances. They admit that they look at flying vehicles as a platform for delivering smart missiles, far away, these missiles can be controlled by any of this network from a certain distance, ship, plane, ground elements, etc.
          1. +5
            15 March 2020 15: 49
            Oquzyurd (Jeyhun)
            You're talking about satellites....and can you determine the purpose of the equipment in the photo? Americans...
            1. 0
              15 March 2020 22: 07
              The first iteration of the counterintelligence system entered service with the US Air Force in 2004, and so, they have their invisibles on their radar invisible :)))))
          2. 0
            15 March 2020 18: 04
            One option should not exclude another. And with us too
      3. 0
        15 March 2020 22: 04
        It's cool, but China drives all the electronics, and we have cooperation with them, Even by the type of American iPhones, Chinese with the American brand of the company.
    2. -1
      15 March 2020 13: 04
      Ours also flew ... so we’ll check which ones are better, I don’t believe that Turkish engineers are better than ours
      maybe not better, but we lagged behind them decently in this thread, about 10 years, now it’s long to catch up
    3. 0
      15 March 2020 17: 03
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      I do not believe that Turkish engineers are better than ours

      Our engineers, most likely, are better ... we have a problem in another, where to get the modern element base for the equipment? Modern, with the right characteristics, but in the required quantities
  2. LMN
    +2
    15 March 2020 12: 51
    Interesting cost ... what
    1. -1
      15 March 2020 12: 59
      Quote: LMN
      Interesting cost ... what

      Are you planning to buy? wink
      1. LMN
        +3
        15 March 2020 13: 01
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        Quote: LMN
        Interesting cost ... what

        Are you planning to buy? wink

        I’m thinking, I would say so. After the drones began to fall in Syria en masse .. winked
        1. -1
          15 March 2020 13: 12
          Quote: LMN
          I think, I would say so. After drones massively began to fall in Syria ..

          Well, that’s right. The economy should be economical (c) laughing
          1. +10
            15 March 2020 13: 23
            Avionics
            The Orion has two payload compartments - a small compartment is located in the bow, and a second, more voluminous, in the central part of the fuselage. In the front compartment there is a gyro-stabilized optical-electronic viewing and retrieval system (MOES) developed by the Moscow-based NPK SPP based on the Argos platform, supplied by the South African affiliate of Airbus with DS Optronics. The MOES system has a diameter of 410 mm and a mass of 56 kg. It consists of two thermal imaging cameras with a variable angular field, a wide-angle television camera and a laser range finder / target designator. MOES can detect and track targets for guided weapons in automatic mode. In the central compartment, a platform with digital cameras or a surveillance radar can be placed, which is closed by a large fairing made of radio-transparent material. The radar for Orion is produced by the Moscow enterprise Fazotron-NIIR. Another option, designed to collect information about enemy air defense systems, is equipped with electronic and electromagnetic equipment.
            weaponry
            Representatives of Kronstadt refused to answer questions regarding the armed versions of Orion, with the exception of a general comment that such an option could be developed. However, during the Army-2017 forum, held in August 2017, Aviaavtomatika "from Kursk for the first time demonstrated three samples of guided bombs - one 25 kg caliber and two 50 kg each, specially designed for UAVs. A company spokesman said the 25kg bomb was dropped from Orion.
            All three samples of bombs have a rectangular body shape with a rounded nose and tail, but different lengths. To them are attached wings and stabilizers of various shapes, as well as guidance systems. The smallest of them weighing 25 kg has cruciform wings and plumage, as well as an inertial guidance system combined with GPS guidance. 50 kg bombs have two options: one with wings and cruciform stabilizers and an inertial guidance system, plus GPS, and the second with folding wings of a larger scope, located on top of the bomb, as well as laser and TV guidance systems. These bombs were presented along with the tactical UAV Jupiter-3 weighing 150 kg.
            The UAV guided missile project is a private initiative of the Aviaavtomatika Design Bureau and is not funded by the Russian Ministry of Defense. The KTRV Corporation also appears to be developing weapons for UAVs, but the results of this work have not yet been presented.
            1. -2
              15 March 2020 14: 14
              GPS guidance is very patriotic, for use in war either. However, nothing new.
          2. +6
            15 March 2020 13: 25
            "Orion" is the Russian analogue of the MQ-1 Reaper UAV and has a similar appearance to the American device. So, it has a V-shaped tail, it has a simple Rotax 914 engine rated at 86 kW (115 hp), equipped with a turbocharger to increase altitude. The two-blade screw AV-115 with a diameter of 1,9 meters is manufactured by Aerosila. For serial production, the Agat company, in cooperation with TsIAM, is developing the Russian APD-110/120 engine. “Orion” has a retractable landing gear with a nose landing gear, as well as a rear retractable crutch to protect the screw.

            Tactical and technical characteristics of the UAV "Orion"
            Wingspan, meters 16
            Length, meters 8
            Take-off weight, kg 1000
            Mass of standard payload, kg 60
            Maximum payload mass, kg 200
            Speed, km / h 120-200
            Ceiling, meters 7500
            Flight Duration, 24 hours
            Range of work, km 250
            Range when using a UAV repeater, km 300
            1. +1
              15 March 2020 13: 33
              The Reaper has a 1000 hp turbofan engine, which is more powerful.
            2. 0
              15 March 2020 19: 48
              We need a flock of kamikaze orions, so that in a pinch - one way! angry
              The question is in developing software and behavior models! Well, of course, for the price - not expensive. Yes
  3. Oct
    -1
    15 March 2020 13: 08
    And the details of the carbon fiber glider or what? And with manual manufacturing? Or is it a trial of forms only?
    1. LMN
      +1
      15 March 2020 13: 18
      Quote: Out
      And the details of the carbon fiber glider or what? And with manual manufacturing? Or is it a trial of forms only?


      This is a serial model, as I understand it.
      According to Bogatikov, the first delivery of the device to the armed forces is planned for 2019. It is assumed that it will become an installation, but, despite this, already the first serial contract.
      1. 0
        15 March 2020 13: 40
        Not yet serial.
        Under the leadership of Dolzhenkov, the Orion unmanned aerial vehicle with a mass of one ton was developed. He passed government tests and is preparing for serial production. Good experience has been accumulated in the creation of heavy drones. If a decision is made to start work on the creation of unmanned AWACS, the team led by Nikolai Dolzhenkov will be able to present to the customer a whole line of such drones in the shortest possible time, and in different weight categories. The general designer is sure of this.

        https://rg.ru/2020/03/14/rf-mozhet-sozdat-bespilotniki-dalnego-radiolokacionnogo-obnaruzheniia.html
        1. LMN
          +1
          15 March 2020 13: 47
          Strange ...
          Kronstadt CEO Sergey Bogatikov said that serial production of the Orion drone reconnaissance for the Russian army has already begun. According to him, in the future it can reach 30 UAVs per year.
          1. 0
            15 March 2020 17: 32
            Quote: LMN
            Strange ...
            Kronstadt CEO Sergey Bogatikov said that serial production of the Orion drone reconnaissance for the Russian army has already begun. According to him, in the future it can reach 30 UAVs per year.

            Well, this is more of a pilot batch of UAVs, not a serial one. Serial production is still only being prepared.
            Representatives of the Kronstadt development company announced the launch of mass production of the Orion reconnaissance-strike drone. The delivery of the first systems to the Russian army will begin already by the end of this year.


            It is reported that this batch is inherently more installation, but is included in the first, larger serial contract for deliveries to the Russian army. Now work is underway to create large-scale production, on which it will be possible to build up to seven such complexes a year - these are about 30 drones.


            It is noted that each complex will include from three to six drones, depending on the tasks.


            already in 2018, the drone made several dozen sorties in the Syrian Arab Republic, inflicting several bombing strikes on targets of militants of the Hayat Tahrir al-Sham organization banned in Russia and its allies of the “moderate opposition” group in the north of Hama province.

            https://anna-news.info/rossiya-nachala-serijnoe-proizvodstvo-razvedyvatelno-udarnogo-bpla-orion/
        2. LMN
          +1
          15 March 2020 13: 48
          By your link, we are talking about a particular drone drone. Yes
  4. -3
    15 March 2020 13: 09
    Previously, you had to move! The Turks have wiped our nose! In service already 10 years ago, we had to have shock drones! !!
    1. -3
      15 March 2020 17: 50
      Quote: Thrifty
      Previously, you had to move! In service already 10 years ago, we had to have shock drones! !!

      Well, why now pluck hair in all places? In hindsight, we are all smart. Come up with a "time machine" and roll back 10 years.
  5. -1
    15 March 2020 13: 13
    I would like the payload mass to be increased by a hundred or one and a half. And in the long term, the flight duration and altitude.
    1. bar
      0
      15 March 2020 13: 34
      There and so, with the declared flight duration of 24 hours, a gas tank of 500 liters is needed, what kind of load capacity is it. And why should he? On the contrary.
      1. 0
        15 March 2020 14: 00
        This means that more economical engines are needed - similar ones fly for at least 30 hours. And with a weight of 1200, carrying a payload of up to 300 kg is not the best option to interest, for example, a foreign buyer.
        1. bar
          0
          15 March 2020 14: 07
          We need a lot of better. But where can I get this? With its design school, a huge failure, for the purchase of imports - sanctions. This is good for the Turks, they buy Austrian rotaxes for their drones and do not steam.
          1. 0
            15 March 2020 14: 40
            "It's good for the Turks, they buy Austrian Rotax for their drones and don't bother." They bother, they launch their own PD-170 engines. The video shows the delivery of engines to the UAV manufacturer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCu70Of3y2Y
  6. -1
    15 March 2020 13: 24
    You, excuse me, if something is wrong, this manual production reminded me how our team of Uzbeks poured foundations for cottages and did waterproofing for the outdoor pool. Scissors, brushes and balonchiki just one to one.
    Earlier it was reported that the first batch of serial drones will enter the army before the end of 2019, currently the drone is undergoing military pilot operation.

    The trend of eternal promises and non-binding deadlines is simply amazing. Wherever you stick, just take it ... Apparently, it should be so? Or is it digitalization in action?
    Quote: LMN
    Interesting cost ...

    Almost like YotaPhone ... Proportional to weight ...
    They put experiments there, and you ask about the price ... This is how to approach a peasant that "pokes" tomato seeds into the ground and ask: "How much are the tomatoes?" wassat
    1. LMN
      -3
      15 March 2020 13: 51
      Kronstadt CEO Sergey Bogatikov said that serial production of the Orion drone reconnaissance for the Russian army has already begun. According to him, in the future it can reach 30 UAVs per year.

      According to Bogatikov, the first delivery of the device to the armed forces is planned for 2019. It is assumed that it will become an installation, but, despite this, already the first serial contract.


      What seeds? If we are already talking about mass production.
      1. -4
        15 March 2020 14: 34
        Quote: LMN
        What seeds? If we are already talking about mass production.

        Do you distinguish trial operation from mass production? Su-57 is also in serial production, like the T-14, as well as the Coalition ...
        Here I can say for sure the S-400, is in mass production. But never once was there a publication based on the results of its combat use ...
        By the way, what brand is your phone?
        1. LMN
          +3
          15 March 2020 14: 58
          Quote: ROSS 42
          Quote: LMN
          What seeds? If we are already talking about mass production.

          Do you distinguish trial operation from mass production? Su-57 is also in serial production, like the T-14, as well as the Coalition ...
          Here I can say for sure the S-400, is in mass production. But never once was there a publication based on the results of its combat use ...
          By the way, what brand is your phone?

          Limited edition, this is also a series. You were clearly told that the device went into series. It will be necessary, up to 30 UAVs per year will be done!
          Seeds, tomatoes, S-400, telephone ... Can you express your thoughts more clearly? Otherwise, I don’t understand what you want to tell me. hi
    2. 0
      26 March 2020 16: 35
      Quote: ROSS 42
      Scissors, brushes and balonchiki just one to one.


      This is what work with fiberglass looks like. Precisely scissors, brushes ... You can google
  7. bar
    +2
    15 March 2020 13: 24
    Small fry. I'm waiting for the "hunter" to be adopted.
    1. -1
      15 March 2020 13: 37
      Hunter is an expensive niche bird..We need daily workers like Orion, Reaper, Global Hawk much more...! Although if you think about it, besides the glider, Hunter should have a lot in common with regular UAVs of similar size.
      1. bar
        +2
        15 March 2020 14: 00
        I agree with all this. But the very idea of ​​a heavy invisible drone is simply wonderful and breakthrough. I look forward to being brought to mind.
  8. -8
    15 March 2020 14: 13
    I read all the comments, mostly blah, blah - about UAVs. Conclusion: Chief, everything is lost - we are lagging behind everywhere. And this is understandable, a living person needs everything at once. But this does not happen in life. Before you shout, "everything is lost", compare the military budgets of the USA, China and Russia! The difference is hundreds of times, not in our favor. But Russia, with such a modest budget, came out on top in many strategic weapons.
    And in hypersound at first. And this is the main trump card for our defense.
    And UAVs are a tactical weapon class. The time will come, and close this niche.
    Let's close it, let's close it! If we moan less and shout from every sofa - "blah-blah-blah"! Yes hi
    1. -2
      15 March 2020 14: 45
      Quote: askort154
      I read all the comments, mostly blah, blah - about UAVs.

      Well, not a UAV, but a UAV ...
      Quote: askort154
      But Russia, with such a modest budget, came out on top in many strategic weapons.

      Who would mind ... Believe us, our salaries are very modest, and pensions ... But, you know, why the military budget is modest? We have nothing to spend money on ... Production is divided into segments and personnel are absent. That is why the costs are modest ...
      Quote: askort154
      And in hypersound at first. And this is the main trump card for our defense.

      The trump card is the main thing if he beats someone else's card, and does not lie in the sleeve ...
      By the way, don’t you know who our main advantage is, who is this trump card?

      So, calm down, come and ruin everything ...
    2. -1
      15 March 2020 15: 55
      And in hypersound at first. And this is the main trump card for our defense.

      Competitors are on the alert. For example, Japan.
      Two hypersonic weapon systems are being developed in Japan - a missile system with a Hypersonic Gloc Project Gliding Projectiles (HVGP), and a Hypersonic Cruising Missile (HCM) hypersonic cruise missile. Each of the systems will be equipped with different types of warheads and will be able to hit both surface and ground targets.

      https://warspot.ru/16828-yaponiya-rassekretila-giperzvukovye-razrabotki
    3. +5
      15 March 2020 23: 02
      Your blah blah blah also got a little bit. About budget comparison. Remind me how many bureaucrats stole Zakharchenko and the like? In billions? Remind me how many billions have been withdrawn abroad by the Russian "business" under the roof of the bureaucrats of the Russian Federation? Remind me how much is stolen from the budget per year according to the FSB itself? to remind, how much do top managers of state and commercial corporations get by parachute in dollars for Russian oil and gas sold abroad, for gold and diamonds, for rare metals, for timber, for coal? And how many were destroyed by fires and accidents of ships and submarines during the "modernization and repair" and for what amounts? Who is to blame for this - Russia's low military budget? USA? Or NATO? Or is it the Russians who plundered their budget to the point that there was not enough money for the military ??? so blah blah blah strangers are just yours.
  9. -3
    15 March 2020 15: 24
    Ross xnumx
    So, calm down, come and ruin everything ...

    And I was not excited. I voiced common truth. If you do not understand, then again in a nutshell - I have been living for a long time, I have seen a lot. And whiners, they were and are in all groups.
    Including this site. When a person is on the job, knows his job and does it well, he has no time or desire to waste himself on "whining".
    "Whiners" are the bark beetles of the state. They are the ones who will not "sort out" anything, even in their own family, not to mention state problems. hi
  10. +2
    15 March 2020 22: 53
    My God - a poor airfield, Taxiing and GDP Sovdepovskie plates are not even in the joint. You can talk about "everything is super!" As much as you want, but it's a shame. Even Turkey took a long time ago and did everything, long ago riveted drums UAVs. And gouged half of the Syrian armored vehicles from the UAV. Already in combat conditions !!! And we have all the tests and tests of a single sample. And therefore, even if they did not make people laugh, they did not show this bullshit with rivets on the plates. Throughout the civilized world, UAVs, propeller driven military have long been the norm. And only we have a great achievement. So we will, at least for another 10 years, dive with NURSs at the target from the SU-25 50 years ago.
  11. +1
    15 March 2020 23: 29
    I want to add a little about "made on the knee": the manufacture of tooling, well, dies, dies, large-sized vacuum furnaces, etc., is a very expensive affair. Therefore, they make an experimental batch “on the knee”. A series will go, there will be a corresponding equipment ...
  12. -1
    16 March 2020 01: 18
    News, definitely - good

    In the video, what I noticed - gluing the airframe body is done manually.
    Actually, Turkish UAVs are manufactured using similar technology.

    Therefore, I wonder if this process can be automated (robotized), or is the work so specific that only a person can do it?
    1. -1
      16 March 2020 01: 34
      I watched the video to the end, it turned out that the developer has another "backlog" of at least one UAV good
    2. 0
      16 March 2020 02: 36
      for a prototype, a person always works, and then automation is necessary to reduce the cost of production. But this is in theory, but in practice you yourself know ...
  13. 0
    16 March 2020 02: 35
    Armata was also promised for a long time in the troops, but still not. The promised 3 years waiting
    1. -1
      16 March 2020 22: 32
      We looked at the parade - and soon enough something else will be shown that has no analogs in the world!
      1. -1
        16 March 2020 23: 38
        no, they won’t show, there’s no election. Amendments to the Constitution before
  14. +1
    16 March 2020 08: 40

    UAB 25kg to Orion
  15. 0
    16 March 2020 22: 30
    The export version of the UAV is called "Orion-E" - well, I hope they sold it to the Turks already or ...!