Defense Ministry reports on negotiations with Turkey on Idlib

The talks between the military delegations of Russia and Turkey were constructive, the parties reaffirmed all the agreements reached at the talks between the leaders of the two countries. This was reported by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.

The Russian military department is satisfied with the results of the talks held in Ankara with the Turkish military. All previous agreements have been confirmed, the first joint patrol of the M15 highway will take place on March 4.

The talks held in Ankara with Turkish colleagues were held in a constructive spirit. Their results will make it possible to implement all the agreements on the Idlib de-escalation zone reached between the presidents of Russia and Turkey on March 5 in Moscow

- said in a statement.

According to the Ministry of Defense, the ceasefire, introduced from 00:01 on March 6, will continue, the six-kilometer-wide security corridor along the M4 highway will be patrolled by joint Russian-Turkish patrols. Turkey will retain observation posts located in the province of Idlib, the Syrian army and pro-Turkish military units remain in their positions, fixed at the time of negotiations on March 5. No other details of the negotiations are given.

Meanwhile, according to the Russian Center for the Reconciliation of the warring parties in Syria, the ceasefire has been violated six times in the last day in Idlib province. It is also specified that the agreements were violated by militants from groups not controlled by Turkey.

Six shellings of settlements of Serakib of Idlib province were recorded; Ikko, Janjanik, Sanjeka of Latakia province; Kafer-Taala, Sheikh Ali of Aleppo Province from the positions of the terrorist organizations Jebhat-en-Nusra and the Islamic Party of Turkestan (banned in Russia)

- said the head of the Central Command and Control Center Rear Admiral Oleg Zhuravlev.

Comments

[Mytholog]

Actually, as expected.
Now we are waiting for half a year until Turkey removes the old roadblocks without much ado.

[1976AG]

The mess will begin earlier, and what will happen in half a year is hard to imagine.

[Mytholog]

Hardly. In Iran, the coronavirus is already at full height. The outbreak in Syria is no longer a matter of time, but already beginning - 99% sure.
Not until the mess will be in the near future.

[1976AG]

Quote: Mytholog

Hardly. In Iran, the coronavirus is already at full height. The outbreak in Syria is no longer a matter of time, but already beginning - 99% sure.
Not until the mess will be in the near future.

Are terrorists aware of the coronavirus? They need to work out the money, and you are talking about some kind of infection, from which they die less than from the flu

[Mytholog]

Quote: 1976AG

Are terrorists aware of the coronavirus? They need to work out the money, and you are talking about some kind of infection, from which they die less than from the flu

These are emotions.
In fact: greens without Turkish support are ineffective. But the Turks of their soldiers will not poke into the epidemic zone. It is fraught with political consequences.

[1976AG]

Quote: Mytholog

Quote: 1976AG

Are terrorists aware of the coronavirus? They need to work out the money, and you are talking about some kind of infection, from which they die less than from the flu

These are emotions.
In fact: greens without Turkish support are ineffective. But the Turks of their soldiers will not poke into the epidemic zone.

In order to help terrorists it is not necessary to go on the attack with them. The use of Turkish aviation for the purposes of CAA has already been repeatedly. Long-range artillery, etc. What kind of emotions are there? And what are the risks for the Turkish army?

[Mytholog]

Quote: 1976AG

In order to help terrorists it is not necessary to go on the attack with them. The use of Turkish aviation for the purposes of CAA has already been repeatedly. Long-range artillery, etc. What kind of emotions are there? And what are the risks for the Turkish army?

1. Mandatory. For example, to art correctors, if you already remembered long-range artillery.
2. The use of aviation is an accumulation of qualified specialists at the airport. Near the epidemic, yeah.
The devil is in the details.
No. All operations - postponed, see.

[1976AG]

Have you heard anything about target designation using drones? Aviation operates from Turkish airfields. What is the epidemic ?? Long-range artillery also works by the way from Turkey. So you messed up something.

[Mytholog]

You with such obstinacy defend the inevitability of the imminent onset of the HTS, as if fighting for them))
So far, everyone has questions with drones during large operations; their use is insured. But this is not even the question.
There are no joint attacks without coordination at all stages.

[1976AG]

Quote: Mytholog

You with such obstinacy defend the inevitability of the imminent onset of the HTS, as if fighting for them))
So far, everyone has questions with drones during large operations; their use is insured. But this is not even the question.
There are no joint attacks without coordination at all stages.

I’m just used to realistically assessing the situation, rather than believing in fairy tales. Reality does not depend on my desires. As well as from yours.
What are the joint offensive ?? fire support plays a very big role!

[Mytholog]

In this case, a decisive one.
And the absolutely necessary coordination of the actions of the green infantry with the Turkish artillery and aviation is fraught with an outbreak of an epidemic in the Turkish troops.
What am I trying to convey to you))

[1976AG]

The fire support provided from YOUR territory is NOT at all threatened. You probably walk at home in a mask?)

[Mytholog]

Yes, do you actually read my answers? Or for you, all artillery comes down to shots from guns?
Who will coordinate the actions of artillery and infantry will be?
Here you are an interesting person ...
Stay with your opinion, since it’s more precious to you than reality.

[1976AG]

"Who will coordinate the actions of artillery and infantry?"
There is such a thing, the radio is called. It allows you to communicate without seeing each other.

[Grits]

Quote: Mytholog

Who will coordinate the actions of artillery and infantry will be?

Means of communication canceled?

[Dog]

Quote: Mytholog

But the Turks of their soldiers will not poke into the epidemic zone.

Ground forces + Turkish Air Force = 300 thousand people, whose average age is up to 50 years (take with reserve). Mortality among this age category is 0,4%.
Suppose the Turks spit on any quarantine measures in the army and they get infected up to 50% of their personnel. In this case, 600 people will die. Erdogan is ready to lay thousands on the altar of his name, he will not think about some 600 bayonets, and since the army is a relatively closed institution, Turkish propaganda will easily reduce the "losses" from the coronavirus in the army to several dozen people - no political consequences in the result is not to be expected.

[carstorm 11]

Ergin Kosyyldyrym, a professor of medicine at the University of Pittsburgh, claims that the Turkish authorities allegedly hide real information about the coronavirus epidemic in the country. The Russian Federation Council commented on rumors about the coronavirus epidemic in Turkey. According to senators, citizens should refrain from traveling to the country. the Turks now have no less problems, and certainly against this background, something is to start the top of stupidity. and without their support, the barmalei will not get anywhere.

[Evgeny Ivanov_5]

I agree. The trouble starts earlier. Moreover, the Turks will now actively seek the incident of Belli to start a new war. Moreover, Russia will be blamed to not conduct negotiations with it in the future. By the way, a statement by the Turkish Minister of Defense flashed in the news in which he openly spoke out about the lack of intentions to withdraw Turkish units already entered into Syria and remove blocks from the depths of Idlib. I’ll look for a source to drop a link.

[Finches]

The military will be able to agree with the military forever ... If humanity hadn’t come up with politicians on its own head, then it would never have known wars! The most harmful and worthless specialty!

[cniza]

Yes, she was given the opportunity to preserve her reputation.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Mytholog

... until Turkey removes the old roadblocks without much ado.

I doubt, however.

[Magus]

Quote: Mytholog

Now we are waiting for half a year

Turkey, with the help of its militants, will carry out a provocation earlier and blame Syria. And it starts all over again ...

[Grits]

Quote: Mytholog

Now we are waiting for half a year until Turkey removes the old roadblocks without much ado.

Rather, add new

[Mountain shooter]

According to rumors, the Turks are slowly withdrawing their units. Because of the M5 highway. And from herself. There was such a post ...
He stood on the track. I had to go around. Released.
East is a delicate matter ... you can speak loud warlike speeches ... and slowly crawl into a corner ...

[1976AG]

And according to other rumors, the Turks do not output anything. And new Turkish units are entering Syria.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: 1976AG

And according to other rumors, the Turks do not derive anything

Let’s take a look. It is not long - wait for the CHECKED information. Here, I look at the photo cleared of the Turkish post of the M5 highway section.
I'll try to insert ...

[1976AG]

The militants will not sit idly by, and the Syrian army will be forced to respond. And Erdogan said that in the event of a ceasefire violation by the SAA, he reserves the right to use his armed forces, so draw conclusions.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: 1976AG

The militants will not sit idly by, and the Syrian army will be forced to respond. And Erdogan said that in case of a ceasefire violation by the SAA, he reserves the right to use his own armed forces, so draw conclusions

And what prevented him? Wouldn't he stop the fighting and capture everything he wanted? Why would he need a truce? Do not lick the wounds?

[1976AG]

Probably for some reason it was necessary. And he was clearly not afraid of an infection. Why did he ask for US assistance? And obviously he didn’t ask the doctors to send. Or do you want to say that he so simply abandoned his ambitions?

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: 1976AG

that he so simply abandoned his ambitions

Yes, his strength ran out ... it turned out to be expensive to fight! Bloody ... the Syrians did not run ... And the steam came out of the whistle.

[1976AG]

Maybe he didn’t calculate the strength, and for this he is pulling up reinforcements. Let's see what will happen next. He did not calm down, that's for sure.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: 1976AG

He didn’t calm down, that's for sure

IMHO, until the end of the tourist season will sit quietly. Europe will not come! All hope for Russia. So far, we have not seen an epidemic in Turkey, either.

[1976AG]

He does not have enough time to wait until the end of the tour season. He needs to act quickly.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

IMHO, until the end of the tourist season will sit quietly. Europe will not come! All hope for Russia. So far, we have not seen an epidemic in Turkey, either.

Noted correctly. For complete happiness, they only need to disrupt the tourist season and refuse to purchase vegetables ...

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Wouldn't he stop the fighting and capture everything he wanted?

he will resume them. There is no reason to doubt it. The Turkish sultan will not give up his ambitions.

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Why would he need a truce?

there are many reasons. It is possible that:
1. The truce was needed not so much in Turkey as in the SA (otherwise the Turks would have carried out all the combat-ready parts of Assad in a couple of weeks) and Russia. Apparently, Erdogan is not ready to quarrel with Moscow yet. Like Moscow and Ankara.
2. We felt the CAA, and also looked at the reaction of the world community. They will draw conclusions, regroup, hold negotiations with whoever is needed - and next time they will be much more prepared for the offensive.
3. Perhaps Turkey requested assistance from Overseas with military equipment and weapons. And this is the time to transfer the necessary across the Ocean

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Gregory_45

1. The truce was needed not so much in Turkey as in the SA (otherwise the Turks would have carried out all the combat-ready parts of Assad in a couple of weeks) and Russia.

A very controversial statement ... So far the Turks have lost half of Idlib, and strategic routes. Bad "reconnaissance in force", is not it?

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

While the Turks lost half of Idlib,

in order to lose something, you need to have it. Turks captured the whole of Idlib? Do not confuse with barmaley?

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Bad "reconnaissance in force", is not it?

I do not find. The losses of the Turks are incommensurable (neither in l / s, nor in technology) with the losses of CAA. Turkish - much less.

[Grits]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

A very controversial statement ... So far, the Turks have lost half of Idlib, and strategic routes

So far, the Turks have not really used their forces. They used only their artillery, drones and a bit of aviation. There they fought their barmel. And they died, by the way, in the vast majority, too, they. But even this was enough to pat the CAA in a few days. Do you sincerely think that if the Turkish army really moved, then the Syrians would resist? Do not entertain yourself with illusions.

[cniza]

Of course, the Sultan became very accommodating after this:

During the aggravation of the situation in Idlib, seven Il-76 aircraft arrived at the Hameimim base. According to experts, it is possible that the newest mobile EW complex Divnomorye was also delivered.

"Divnomorye" is a completely new electronic warfare system, which is just beginning to enter the troops and in the near future should replace such electronic warfare systems as - "Moscow", "Krasukha-2" and "Krasukha-4", which operate in a single complex. The EW complex "Divnomorye" is more compact, more efficient, and deployed into a combat state in just a few minutes. The complex includes only one all-terrain vehicle.

Thus, Russia, using its AWACS and EW systems, without entering into an open conflict with Turkey, neutralized its air forces in Idlib, which were no longer able to control airspace or provide support to the Turkish ground forces and its allies - terrorist gangs .

[Sergey Olegovich]

Negotiations of military delegations of Russia and Turkey were constructive

Negotiations are always constructive. But when it comes to the point, our opposing partners forget about all the agreements and interpret the agreements in their favor.

[Dog]

Quote: Sergey Olegovich

Negotiations are always constructive

The fact is that the result of the negotiations signed by the parties is not published (or even not signed).
So Peskov once told us that the Sultan repented for our pilot, and the Turkish press said that this was bullshit and Erdogan would not repent for anything. But the official piece of paper, which could prove or disprove those words, was not in the public domain.
So the parties can talk about "satisfaction" with the negotiations as much as they like.

[primala]

It is urgent to remove ours from Syria. And spit from a high mountain on foreign policy.
OUR interests should be for the good of our own country. Develop all industries.
If necessary, arrange a second iron curtain. Europe will come first with a bow.
Look at the world map !!! Compare the territories and the physical map of the world.
Not only that ... we have enough natural resources. (how much has not yet been mastered).
Works nEpochaty edge !!!
And further. Press water is our (next) wealth.
How much more ... Let them envy !!!

[primala]

Quote: Kontroler

Quote: primaala

It is urgent to remove ours from Syria. And spit from a high mountain on foreign policy.

These are now in favor here ..? And in general, Russia needs to be divided into, as in the "Nord Ost" plan heh heh you are liberal bastards

I hope I'm NOT "in favor". And if I write anything, I write briefly and (hopefully) clearly.
For what, and d \ what purpose are ours in Syria, in the know. NOT happy. Not happy, not because ...
Sorry for the RUSSIAN "genephone". Enough in 1917 \ 1914 \ 41-45 \ ... Afghan and 90s.
"You won't be good for everyone." It's time to think about your own!
Politics is dirt. Better to observe from the side ... "and Vaska is listening, yes ...".

[Grits]

Quote: primaala

And further. Press water is our (next) wealth.
How much more ... Let them envy !!!

Allochka, today you are in a bump!
... or in the heat ...

[primala]

Quote: Gritsa

Quote: primaala

And further. Press water is our (next) wealth.
How much more ... Let them envy !!!

Allochka, today you are in a bump!
... or in the heat ...

You are right !!! I cook dinner, and in raids I look (stumbling) into VO.
Cons instructed are hostile !!! Dahren !!! And she smiles)))

[Andobor]

WHAT, did the Turks of the stubborn sign up to roll?

[Dog]

Russian military department satisfied

And once it was: "Satisfied with the ruins of Reistag."

[rotmistr60]

Mytholog
But the Turks of their soldiers will not poke into the epidemic zone.

It is enough to systematically supply terrorists with weapons and ammunition, and to plant new recruits from refugee camps on their territory. In addition, Erdogan is not going to remove his checkpoints, some of which are already in the rear of the Syrian army (read, surrounded).

[askort154]

It is also specified that the agreements were violated by militants from groups not controlled by Turkey.

What a primitive excuse. Like, we armed them, designated their goals, supported them with fire - but they are cutthroats, they don’t obey us. So, on the Turkish side, there is no direct violation of the agreement of March 5.

[Junior Private]

the agreements were violated by militants from groups not controlled by Turkey.

Well yes. It remains only to find out who sponsors the militants - to shut off all the oxygen and peace will reign throughout the world.

[Oquzyurd]

Everything has been known for a long time, more than once they wrote and talked about it. They are financed by the Saudis and the UAE. And who is behind them .. guess.

[Guru]

It is also specified that the agreements were violated by militants from groups not controlled by Turkey

Well, these scumbags need to be Dropped by CABs without hesitation.

[businessv]

It is also specified that the agreements were violated by militants from groups not controlled by Turkey.

Well, destroy them and everyone will be happy and happy!