In search of "Serpentinka": special investigation of Kolyma and the temple-museum for 900 million

When it comes to Stalinist repressions, heated discussions usually flare up, in which each side has its own arguments and arguments. And it is one thing when such arguments are based on documentary evidence and other kind of evidence, another thing when they have no ground.

Some time ago, a film by blogger Yuri Dude burst into the Russian media space about Kolyma. In this film the word "Serpentinka" was spoken. According to the interlocutors of the video blogger, "Serpentinka" is a shooting prison that existed in the vastness of the Magadan region.

Channel "Bad Signal" decided to find out details about this object. The result was not obtained immediately. Representatives of museums, the local administration of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and archives, in response to numerous letters and requests, replied that they had no information about the Serpentinka. The situation is strange - there is a film by Dudya, there are statements of responsible persons, but in reality it turns out that the information at least initially needed to be verified and double-checked.

In this stories flashed the name of Ivan Panikarov, who told about the "Serpentinka". Ivan Panikarov himself, as the author of the mentioned channel notes, stated that “Serpentinka” is a “popular name”, that there are no official materials with respect to such a name, but he has evidence of the existence of this “execution prison”. After a letter was sent to Mr. Panikarov asking him to demonstrate such evidence. But no answer has yet been received.

"Bad signal":

We will keep you updated on the data on the Serpentinka prison, where "tens of thousands of Soviet citizens were destroyed." Unless, of course, Ivan Alexandrovich (Panikarov) gets in touch. After all, in the end everything came down to him. Neither museums, nor the Ministry of Internal Affairs, nor archives - no one knows anything about Serpentinka, only he knows ...

Special investigation film about Kolyma, past and present, about the temple-museum for 900 million rubles:

Comments

[Mountain shooter]

Again, he is afraid of facts and legends ... Does Solzhenitsyn have any mention of this Serpentinka? Something is so vaguely remembered ... Well, he and the inhabitants of the GULAG count tens of millions. When, according to the archives, there are about 6 million for the period from the 20th to the 53rd ...

[Nehist]

He has a mention from there and went this nonsense

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Again, he is afraid of facts and legends ... Does Solzhenitsyn have any mention of this Serpentinka?

Mention no and should not be, but 900 million rubles flew somewhere. Scammers from history have well learned to knock money out.

[Paul Siebert]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Does Solzhenitsyn have any mention of this Serpentinka? Something is so vaguely remembered ...

The fact is that the work of Alexander Isaevich’s whole life is not a historically accurate document.
"The Gulag Archipelago" is a sacred scripture of liberals and pro-Westerners written based on the memories, stories, and often tales of people who went through the millstones of Stalin's camps. And sometimes - their relatives, friends, acquaintances.
On the same path went the swirling journalist Dud.
Famously operates hundreds of thousands of executed - a hundred there, a hundred here, what's the difference ...
Who will check, who will give in the face for a lie? The theme is old ... Dark.
Presses on a tear, plays with a pretty face, tragically bulges his eyes.
What is not a victim of the regime? Revenge from the ashes revenge tortured Lubyanka ...
No, not the ashes of those killed are pounding in his heart - ratings and likes. Mention in the feeds and discussions in the media.
Makes a name for itself and a cache on the slain ...
Come, little devil. About squealing coronavirus - just your level!

[bessmertniy]

It seems like a fairy tale the existence of this shooting Kolyma prison. What was the point of transporting those sentenced to the highest measure from a large territory, if this measure was then decided to be carried out on the spot. In each camp there were no performers. Another thing is that in some camp they shot more than in others.

[DEDPIHTO]

It would not hurt today to make a fairy tale come true, there isn’t a shortage of performers that it won’t be, but you still have to arrange a contest. Although, on the spot, is also an option, quickly and economically, according to the Court of Troika ...

[alekseykabanets]

Better to do without it. Although I do not argue, the temptation is great.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Media, like the Internet, do not shine with credibility. Sensation - circulation - money. And no responsibility ..

[Strashila]

"I could not think of a smarter dud", for which they paid, he voiced.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Old partisan

I couldn’t come up with a more intelligent one.

Duda, Dud there is no difference, everything is oiled in one world.

[Amateur]

"Serpentinka" - a firing prison, which existed in the vastness of the Magadan region.

Any of the "denunciators of the totalitarian regime" who compose legends about "bloody crimes" would have thought with their heads how much it would cost to deliver the ZK "from the mainland" to the Magadan Region, so that they could be shot there? This is economic nonsense.
Dalstroy paid off only thanks to the extraction of gold, tin and other non-ferrous metals.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Amateur

"bloody crimes" I would have thought with my head, how much would it cost to deliver the ZK "from the mainland" to the Magadan Region, so that they would be shot there? This is economic nonsense.

Moreover, none of these scribblers bothered to think about another, purely economic, aspect. There was a planned economy in the USSR. And the State Planning Committee was spreading, and neither was the "gulag". Therefore, in order to fulfill a rather tense plan, the camp leadership was vitally interested in maintaining the number of convicts. Therefore, all these "stories" about the massacres in the camps are pure notions.

[K-50]

If "Serpantica" was, it is hardly "firing squad".
There is no point in transporting this through an entire, rather considerable country.
So that's a lie.

[thinker]

blogger Yuri Dudy’s film about Kolyma

“Two hours of concentrated lies, manipulations, distortion of facts, silence of inconvenient facts.” https://vz.ru/news/2019/4/29/975673.html

[Strashila]

"Serpentinka is a firing squad that existed in the vastness of the Magadan region." At that time, the labor force was treated more responsibly, for what to shoot, if it could be sent to the mines, where he would quietly bend down giving the norm to the mountain.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Strashila

"Serpentinka" - a firing squad that existed in the vastness of the Magadan region. "How many myths about the horrors of Soviet power

But in the states and in the kingdom there are no such myths, even the books of Stevenson, Main Reed, Cooper say how good the Anglo-Saxons were, and nowhere do you find references to the extermination of the local population of America, the remnants of which live in the most democratic society in the world, on reservations ... India, South Africa, Canada, Australia and nowhere are there any descriptions of the atrocities with which they were conquered. But on the other hand, "our" adherents of the Anglo-Saxons are throwing mud at their country, without shame and conscience. I understand the people of the old Empire who were angry after the Revolution, many have lost everything. I can understand them, but how to understand those born in the USSR and modern Russia. What they have lost, where is the anger at their country, at their people. Many pipes for 30 pieces of silver (6200 rubles) sold and are still selling their history, their statehood.

[bober1982]

Why advertise on the website of this young "insta blogger", which in its development is not far from the pharmacy "insta bloggers"
In May 2017, Dud starred as himself in the video of Vasya Oblomov for the song- Carry garbage
The answer is comprehensive.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: bober1982

Why advertise on the site of this young "insta blogger"

Well, what are you, how can you - a young ostrich breed (whose eyes are larger than the brain), calls it nothing but "the voice of the people". Oh how.

[DEDPIHTO]

Indeed, what the fuck is he, the voice of the people, with such an anti-Soviet theme. More like, a mouthpiece of the Kremlin, it looks like where the galoshenosos who suffered from the Soviet Power dug in ...

[My doctor]

Quote: bober1982

Why advertise on the website of this young "insta blogger", which in its development is not far from the pharmacy "insta bloggers"

Dude's work is often one level higher than the products of the first channel. And therefore, it is unlikely that he will be pleased with advertising among a rather specific audience. No offense.

[krillon]

Not in relation to Dudyu, God bless him, who earns as he can. But. So were there repressions or was it an invention of liberals? Did they give 58 for jokes or were they all in prison? With regard to our time, the Yarovaya law is in effect, tomorrow they will check who sent which messages to whom, will we not go to those places to explore, or do you think this is impossible? Look around, the signs are there. The opportunity to peacefully express one's opinion through meetings will be closed by referring to the coronavirus, and on April 22nd, where "everyone" will vote for the amendments.

[north 2]

The first one.
If Nicholas II would have the same concepts as Stalin about enemies within Russia, which without special
problems leading to destroy even the Russian hot then Red Empire from the innocent-sounding Fifth
Columns easily turns into an army of killers of these Empires, if Nicholas II would have understood it, then
these killers would not have destroyed the Russian Empire at the beginning of the XNUMXth century. Therefore, any innocent sounding
liberal and so-called democratic games, especially with ideologists and those who are against the Imperial state system for Russia and against harsh management methods in this Empire, so these games with these will always lead Russia to the edge of the abyss. After Stalin, these liberals
they began to go crazy and say that the thaw came. But Khrushchev, who understood the stupidity, understood that it was not a thaw, but a real slush. The Solzhenitsyn arsenal in Russia is always on the alert. And they will always wait for the moment to turn themselves from banal traitors and liars into themselves national luminaries. Of course, even more spineless than Nicholas II, Gorbachev then before
such traitors and liars, then ardent liberals, fell to their knees before them and asked for forgiveness from them on behalf of all the people of Russia. And you represent Stalin on the knees of a begging forgiveness from Vlasov, Rostropovich or Solzhenitsyn. You can’t imagine. I also can’t imagine this. Therefore, the Stalinist Red Russian Empire became powerful and even defeated the Nazi evil in a terrible war,
and the Gorbachev liberal empire surrendered to whom it could only and fell apart.
The second one.
History does not recognize the subjunctive mood, therefore, what would happen if Nicholas II would have the same ridge of a statesman as Stalin, these judgments that would be, there is only my personal opinion. But the fact that Stalin could beat a little of those and put too few in these camps, so seeing how under Khrushchev began to grow, under Gorbachev blossomed, and today, with all his stink in Russia, these are fragrant
the liberals' weeds, seeing all this, can be stated as a fact that this is Stalin’s mistake and his mistake.

[My doctor]

Quote: north 2

But the fact that Stalin could beat a little of those and put too few in these camps, so seeing how under Khrushchev began to grow, under Gorbachev blossomed, and today, with all his stink in Russia, these are fragrant
the liberals' weeds, seeing all this, can be stated as a fact that this is Stalin’s mistake and his mistake.

Under Stalin, hundreds of people went to jail without which it was impossible to imagine the culture and science of the USSR. Most rocket scientists, aviators and weapon designers came under article. Ideal conditions were created for moral freaks who wrote denunciations to leading experts from competing design bureaus. Lysenkovschina flourished in science, scientific disputes were resolved with the help of the NKVD workers. And this happened not only among engineers and scientists, Andropov's career growth is very indicative. It’s not worth remembering cultural bohemians.

[voyaka uh]

The rehabilitation of the crimes of Stalin and his regime is in full swing in Russia. This is noticeable in the articles of the last few years.
And it is directly connected with the improving economic situation and the loss of the imperial status of Russia.
But nostalgic for the Stalinist dictatorship, fortunately, only the old generation.
So, there is a good chance for the restoration of Russia as a developed democratic European country.

[Andrey VOV]

"So there is a good chance for the restoration of Russia as a developed democratic European country." with gay parades, all sorts of third parties in the description of gender, with the legalization of drug addiction and pedophilia .. did you mean that?

[voyaka uh]

Russians as a nation are classic Europeans. This is confirmed by the statistics of emigrants from Russia to Europe and America. In the 2-3 generation, they completely dissolve among the population of the country into which their parents moved. And relatively quickly reach an average level of prosperity in this country.
Consequently, it is not certain national traits that impede the achievement of Russia at the same level as the Western world, but only historical and political brakes.
In short: Russia has excellent chances to enter the "golden billion" over time, rather than being an outsider hostile to developed countries. It's just a matter of time.

[Aviator_]

Is Israel a "developed European democratic country" or not?

[oldzek]

I don't know what is more naive or historical illiteracy in you (in you), how many Germans, French, Scots, etc. etc. Russified in the Russian Empire. I hope the names of Barclay, de Ribas, von Essen, Eberhardt are known to you. And it was not Russia that was hostile to Europe, but on the contrary! The expression "Englishwoman crap" was not born yesterday.

[voyaka uh]

"how many Germans, French, Scots, etc., etc. became Russified in the Russian Empire." ////
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This confirms what he wrote.
Russia and Europe are one.
And many Europeans have perfectly adapted and "Russified" in Russia, and vice versa.
There is no bar'er. The elites, incompetent in the modern economy, are trying to artificially create it and kindle enmity.

[DEDPIHTO]

Quote: voyaka uh

Russians as a nation are classic Europeans. This is confirmed by the statistics of emigrants from Russia to Europe and America. In the 2-3 generation, they completely dissolve among the population of the country into which their parents moved. And relatively quickly reach an average level of prosperity in this country.

That is not Ivana, then Abram .. ... and other representatives of small nations. Real Russians can’t dissolve, I’ll declare this to you as 100% Russian. And for the hill I absolutely do not pull, in any economic and political situation in the country. In short, go through the forest with your globalism and cosmolithism ... and yes, in Israel there is tension with the forest, then back to the sands and forever ..

[voyaka uh]

"Real Russians cannot dissolve, I declare this to you as 100% Russian" ////
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It is 100% Russian that dissolve, I did not talk about Jews who just dissolve more slowly. Only the British and other English speakers dissolve faster than Russians in America.
But you personally, if you are a patriot of Russia, of course live in Russia and love your country. Patriotism does not mean hostility towards other countries. Patriotism, including Russian patriotism
- it's good

[DEDPIHTO]

I repeat once again, 100% of Russians do not pull over the hill, respectively, those who left not quite Russians not only by blood, but also by STATUS OF THE SOUL. He deliberately highlighted an important point, but the Jew cannot explain what it is — it needs to be felt. Maybe someone else will be able to find the right words, I’m sorry, there are no such words. And yes, I love my Motherland, only, the state, I HATE FULLY, so with patriotism (not to be confused with putriotism) the whole order.

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: voyaka uh

Consequently, it is not certain national traits that impede the achievement of Russia at the same level as the Western world, but only historical and political brakes.

In what achievements does Russia lag behind the Western World? In spirituality, art, science or military power?

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: Andrey VOV

"So there is a good chance for the restoration of Russia as a developed democratic European country." with gay parades, all sorts of third parties in the description of gender, with the legalization of drug addiction and pedophilia .. did you mean that?

He dreams of democracy in Russia "like in Iraq."

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: voyaka uh

The rehabilitation of the crimes of Stalin and his regime is in full swing in Russia.

What, "voyaka uh", nightmares with Comrade Stalin interfere with sleep? At the time of Stalin, the USSR was not a "regime", but a socialist system. Your post is a clumsy attempt to impose your (Jewish) opinion on the history of our Motherland. Out of excess of feelings, you can engage in exposing the crimes of the homegrown Zionist REGIME.

But nostalgic for the Stalinist dictatorship, fortunately, only the old generation.

"Nostalgic for the Stalinist dictatorship" are sane Russians who want to see Russia as a mighty Power as it was in the days of I. Stalin.

[oldzek]

I don’t know what to argue about here. Not without reason one of the Emperors of Russia said: “if you want to be Russian, be it.” and in general Russian is an adjective, not a noun. Hence it turns out that there is a Russian German, a Russian Georgian, a Russian Jew, Russian Tatar, etc. etc. IMHO

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: oldzek

I don’t know what to argue about here. Not without reason one of the Emperors of Russia said: “if you want to be Russian, be it.” and in general Russian is an adjective, not a noun. Hence it turns out that there is a Russian German, a Russian Georgian, a Russian Jew, Russian Tatar, etc. etc. IMHO

I don’t argue with him. Alexey "voyaka uh", one of the "veterans" on the site. But I think that the comrade from Israel should not sell us their opinion "about the crimes of Stalin and his regime."
They have in Israel, the Prime Minister goes under the article.

[A.TOR]

There is no such chance

[krillon]

I read on Yandex how a man decided to return the good name of his grandfather, repressed and shot in those years, with which he creaked archival files. Provided with anonymous names of scammers and executioners. So I see no reason to think that something has changed much. Russia is the legal successor of the Soviet Union with the fact that someone is still nice and with the darkness that I don’t want to remember. Oblivion of the past threatens with its repetition.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Again, he is afraid of facts and legends ... Does Solzhenitsyn have any mention of this Serpentinka? Something is so vaguely remembered ... Well, he and the inhabitants of the GULAG count tens of millions. When, according to the archives, there are about 6 million for the period from the 20th to the 53rd ...

And how many political ones are there? There was no lawlessness on the streets of the country after the civil, Patriotic? Do you remember stories like "Black Cat" anymore? And how many were convicted under Article 58 just because. that evidence for this article did not need to be presented? Denunciation, instead of a signature - the number of the party card, and that's it. Was it just that there were three exchanges of party cards after Stalin? Just for this, to hide the informers forever. Wipe into oblivion those numbers of documents that remained in the files of the NKVD-KGB. Read the lists of "Memory", how many shepherds and tractor drivers were accused of assisting the Japanese, German, British intelligence services and who were shot for this.

[Amateur]

Read the lists of "Memory"

You can chew used toilet paper with exactly the same success and sensations.

[Aleks2000]

ABOUT!! Kolyma ....
And under the guise of a budget billiard yourself and the choir and temples of grabber ....

And erysipelas ... what kind of fattened faces flicker ...

[georggy]

Again stuffing and provocation. Moderators anti-advisers. You are kind people moderators and kind agents.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Quote: DEPHIHTO

I repeat once again, 100% of Russians do not pull over the hill, respectively, those who left not quite Russians not only by blood, but also by STATUS OF THE SOUL. He deliberately highlighted an important point, but the Jew cannot explain what it is — it needs to be felt. Maybe someone else will be able to find the right words, I’m sorry, there are no such words. And yes, I love my Motherland, only, the state, I HATE FULLY, so with patriotism (not to be confused with putriotism) the whole order.

Those who leave forever at the desire NOT to be Russian, Russian (if not scouts) - get out. And they have no patriotism (for various reasons). There are a number of people leaving for good reasons and who in every possible way preserve their connection with Russia and "Russianness".

[Angelo Provolone]

I should have studied for a priest. I would go with a belly now. would go on a Mercedes and "over the ears" of gullible citizens.
Hallelujah

[oldzek]

Incidentally, during the First World War, 80 Orthodox priests died, more than 100 were injured.

[Angelo Provolone]

Already 80? what a cut !!!

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Amateur

Read the lists of "Memory"

You can chew used toilet paper with exactly the same success and sensations.

However, without this roll you can no longer? Use as directed, and you will not vomit.
Do I suggest using Memorial as a textbook in a positive sense? I offered to wipe this site, finding there exactly what you need.

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: Victor March 47

They scattered around the world, hanging out like shit in an ice hole for 2 thousand years.

They didn’t just hang out, Victor Kuzmich. In my opinion they are very well attached.

[Konatantin 1992]

Personally, on the orders of Stalin, hundreds of millions of Soviet citizens were shot ... and Beria himself shot in the back of the head .... in between the rapes of young students of ballet schools ((((What a bloody scoop ... thank God and the Sun that we live in another time!!!!!

[Angelo Provolone]

Sex giant

[Yuri 335]

What I want to say is that the film "Bad Signal" resembles in its content the replies of museums and government bodies themselves. To find something, you need to go to those places, talk to people, drive through the territory of the former camps. And it is unreasonable to vilify other people, not from a great mind.

[Yuri 335]

At a minimum, there are coordinates on Wikipedia, look at the satellite photo, there really are all the hills around pitted, and there is the same serpentine. But no, Comrade Yegor Ivanov, instead of shaking his crackers directly into place, broadcasts without getting off the sofa.

https://yandex.ru/maps/100322/yagodninsky-district/?l=sat%2Cskl&ll=150.019435%2C62.704154&mode=search&sll=150.018056%2C62.702222&source=wizgeo&text=62.702222%2C150.018056&utm_medium=maps-desktop&utm_source=serp&z=15