Kiev: No LDNR should be considered as a party to negotiations

The next stage of negotiations on the situation in the Donbass in the so-called Minsk format has ended. Once again, the Kiev attempt to sit on several chairs is noteworthy: when the OSCE representatives are watching the negotiation process, the Kiev side declares its readiness to comply with the Minsk agreements, but as soon as the Ukrainian delegation returns to Ukraine, the exclamations that the Minsk agreements are resumed must be reviewed.

So, in Kiev they stated that “no LDNR should be considered as a party to the negotiations.”

From the statement of the deputy of the Verkhovna Rada from the presidential party "Servant of the People" Evgenia Kravchuk after meeting with the head of the office of President Zelensky Andrei Ermak:

The deputies expressed public concerns and this is normal for a democratic country. The head of the president’s office listened to these concerns and assured that the red lines would not be crossed. The Russian Federation has been and remains a party to the negotiations. No one is negotiating with the leaders of the militants and is not going to conduct them.

Refusing direct negotiations with representatives of the Donbass, they said in Kiev that they would refuse to implement the Minsk agreements, but ...

Andrey Ermak on the air of Ukrainian TV:

I can tell you frankly that many of them very often tell us that if you want to leave Minsk, if you are not going to fulfill the Minsk agreements, tell us, but we warn you that this will have a very powerful result regarding the extension of sanctions (against Russian Federation).

The head of Zelensky’s office stated that Kiev “is ready to hold elections in the ORDLO (as the Ukrainian authorities call the uncontrolled territories of Donbass), but this cannot be done according to Ukrainian laws, since there are foreign troops there.” At the same time, the presence of American, Canadian and British military contingents on its territory for some reason did not prevent the holding of elections in Ukraine.

Comments

[Killemall]

perhaps they don’t know that their stupid obstinacy will ultimately cost them the country ...

[Insurgent]

Kiev: No LDNR should be considered as a party to negotiations

That's it! You whipped yourself like a Unther widow, recognizing us as "abroad."

HAVE TO RECOGNIZE, and de facto, and de jure!

Ukraine closes from coronavirus. Reuters reports that Kiev intends to close checkpoints with the republics of Donbass.This proposal was put forward by Arsen Avakov.

AND...

President of Ukraine Vladimir Zelensky announced the tightening of measures against the spread of coronavirus. The country has closed its borders to foreigners since March 16.

Quote: President of Ukraine V.A. Zelensky

Foreign citizens will not be able to enter the territory of Ukraine: neither by plane, nor by train, nor by car, or by any other means

[Hunter 2]

And before the borders were closed, the tourists poured directly into Ukraine!
Regarding the Minsk agreements, there is only another surprise ... how can I forget Who and with whom signed it ??? Actually, apparently, you can ... if all in eleven points - constantly find something new. Idiocy!

[Insurgent]

Quote: Hunter 2

how can I forget Who and with whom signed it ??? Actually, apparently you can ... if all in eleven points - constantly find something new. Idiocy!

Better than the greatest philosopher of antiquity, I will not answer:

[Egoza]

Quote: Hunter 2

And before the borders were closed, the tourists poured directly into Ukraine!

Well, not tourists, but migrant workers ..... "asked" them from Europa!

[Svetlana]

>> And before the borders were closed, tourists were pouring straight into Ukraine! <

Tourists or not but foreigners go there. Entrepreneurs of medium and small hands from Western Europe, Ukraine is interested in a PDA supplier of cheap goods.
For example, consumer goods, I don’t want to say what exactly, from the shops of Ukraine are taken to Germany and put up for sale on Amazon and Ebee. About one in three trucks goes into marriage, but the profit from the remaining two is equally sufficient.

[donavi49]

In fact yes. Just a little earlier. Immediately after visa-free travel. There for 500 euros in Kiev, you could panovuyut a week. A unique offer so to speak. Now, despite the course of 25-26, prices have grown. Therefore, it will not work directly. We need more euros.

[Kronos]

And from Ukraine there signed persons who did not have power even then for

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Hunter 2

And before the borders were closed, the tourists poured directly into Ukraine!

But there were many tourists from Ukraine to Europe. The latter arrived yesterday through Warsaw (before the border was closed). We arrived on a Polish visa to work, under the guise of a business trip. Probably the other day this type of tourism will be closed.

[cost]

Zelensky urgently turned to the Ukrainians because of the coronavirus. The country has closed its borders to foreigners since March 16

Urgent? Yes, how! Exactly 2 hours after Donald Trump appealed to the Americans about the introduction of a state of emergency in the United States in connection with the spread of coronavirus. The US has closed its borders to foreigners since March 16. In general, after listening to Trump’s appeal, and then Zelensky’s appeal, it seems that the texts were written to them in the same place.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Rich

In general, having listened to Trump’s appeal, and then Zelensky’s appeal creates the feeling that the texts were written to them in the same place.

In the cesspool.

[Grits]

Quote: Rich

it seems that the texts they wrote in the same place.

No, just a mongrel is in a hurry to repeat exactly all the actions of his master in order to please him. To pat on the withers and give a hand (???) to lick.

[Lelek]

Quote: Gritsa

To pat on the withers and give a hand (???) to lick.

Not only do we perceive that the hetman-lyceum on the withers will be spread rot, not by the Americans, but by their home-grown Natsiks (like the days before Sivokho).

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Rich

In general, having listened to Trump’s appeal, and then Zelensky’s appeal creates the feeling that the texts were written to them in the same place.

Zelensky was sent by "soap" from the State Department.

[Lelek]

Quote: Insurgent

HAVE TO RECOGNIZE, and de facto, and de jure!

Is not a fact. You know the nature of dill - today he says one thing, tomorrow - another, the day after tomorrow - "he didn't say anything at all." This is Ruina, brother of Horatio, where they can come up with something that our sages never dreamed of. Yes, here's another thing, "hryundel" Waltzman escaped over the hill from the trial for his bloody activities:

[Insurgent]

Quote: Lelek

Not a fact.

Fact fact It's only time.
But in general :

Quote: Seeker

De facto republics have existed since 2014.

[Lelek]

Quote: Insurgent

It's only time.

And how long will this pro-fascist entity - "the former Ukraine" exist? As long as it is as it is now, the LPR will not be recognized by it. Yes, perhaps the Russian Federation will finally carry out the recognition of the independence of the republics (which I really hope for, and would rather be), but the dill of the Bandera-Nazi sense - never.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Lelek

Yes, perhaps the Russian Federation will finally hold recognition of the independence of the republics (which I really hope, and probably would), but dill Bandera-Nazi persuasion - never.

Did I write about recognizing what is left (or still remains)? Especially as a "package"?

During this time, in the DPR and LPR, we have become largely fatalists, therefore, as it will be, it will be so.

[Looking for]

De facto republics have existed since 2014.

[Zhan]

Quote: KilleMall

perhaps they don’t know that their stupid obstinacy will ultimately cost them the country ...

This is not stupid obstinacy, this is the understanding that otherwise they will not work out their 30 pieces of silver. In the meantime, while the "DEBATS" are going on, Ukraine is being pulled apart for spare parts.
Those who did this with Ukraine, now very competently and skillfully finish it.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Zhan

Those who did this with Ukraine, now very competently and skillfully finish it.

And consider the profit.

[maidan.izrailovich]

... will ultimately cost them a country ...

The course taken for Russophobia in the end it will cost them the country.

[bessmertniy]

The Ukrainian elite prefers to negotiate not with the people that they consider their own, but with the Americans and Europe. Some of the people have already sent her to a known address. It remains for the rest of Ukraine to deal with their leaders themselves.

[Incvizitor]

Ukrainian elite

they are accustomed to treating people as gallops and worrying only about the land, and the people are worth nothing to them, only here in the DPR LPR people will not tolerate this.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: bessmertniy

Some of the people have already sent her to a known address.

Anecdote about Little Johnny at school "Little Johnny what does a minus mean? Maryvanovna I don't know what a minus is, but dad said that there is a big minus. Little Johnny in mathematics is not a big minus. And dad said that there is, and this is the state of Ukraine with a big minus, because that Crimea, LPR and DPR left it. "

[Insurgent]

Quote: maidan.izrailovich

The course taken for Russophobia in the end will cost them the country.

[Egoza]

Quote: maidan.izrailovich

The course taken for Russophobia in the end will cost them the country.

That would be faster!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Egoza

That would be faster!

I wonder what will happen next?

[Lelek]

Quote: tihonmarine

I wonder what will happen next?

A bloody "upgrade" because natypiteki will not give up the "conquered" just like that, and external "sponsors" will instantly present bills to pay off debts. Much will depend on the position of Russia, but she (Russia) cannot take on the debts of the "Svidomites" and expose herself to the long-term mess in the Ruin. Today, Yermak's warnings regarding the "Minsk agreements" are real:

As regards the situation on the front in the Donbass, today:

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Lelek

Much will depend on Russia's position, but she (Russia) cannot take on the debts of the "Svidomites" and expose herself to the long-term mess in the Ruin.

So the answer is simple. Debts only increase, and they will have to be paid. Only who needs it.

[Lelek]

Quote: tihonmarine

Only who needs it.

, Vlad.
Isn't it clear? This is part of the Western strategy to "lower" such a nasty Russia. Create on the border with the Russian Federation hostile "cordon" states. To maximize "pump up" them with debt obligations to the West, to plunder and destroy their industry, resources and economies. And finally, with the help of Western "tools" (courts, foundations, the media and other casuistry), the restoration of these "ruins" should be laid on the shoulders of Russia, which will drown under this burden. Something like this - a repeat of the fate of the USSR. And after all, they are good at something for the villainous (the Balts, Ukraine, Georgia, etc. Young Europeans, but right now Belarus is at stake).

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Lelek

Isn't it clear? This is part of the Western strategy to "put down" such a nasty Russia.

I understand that, but the "oviplopes" do not understand that they are being pushed into the debt hole. And the time is coming that the debts are no longer they, not Russia, and Europe will not be able to pay. Just cut, "hands up the hill, there are no Russians, you want a Ukrainian!"

[asv363]

Leo, categorically welcome!

Quote: Lelek

As regards the situation at the front in the Donbass, today

Here are the incomplete data on the DPR for the last day:
Only the day before yesterday 30 times the DNI was fired upon, three civilians were wounded on the night of the 14th (Horlivka). Yesterday morning, as a result of shelling, a man born in 1935 was wounded, his condition is very serious. According to the latest data, he died.
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On the night of March 14, at 1:35, fighters of the 58th brigade fired at the outskirts of the city of Gorlovka with 122 mm artillery, firing 10 shells at the village, as a result of which three civilians were injured and a number of house-building were damaged.


On March 14, VFU militants fired at the village of Signal, as a result of which a civilian born in 1935 was injured, TWO residential buildings at the addresses of ul. Gagarina, 12 and 16, as well as damaged power lines, supplying electricity to the Signal and northern outskirts of the village of Elenovka.

[Lelek]

Quote: asv363

asv363 (Sergey Vyacheslavovich)

Let's not be naive. The Nazis, "dobrobats" and "Avakovs" rule in this state entity called "the former Ukraine". Whatever the "agreements" at the top (and these very "top" Ruins, using jargon, are not responsible for their "bazaar"), everything is decided "on the ground" by a brutal crowd of Nazi-minded marginals. Sivokho spoke out the day before yesterday for contact negotiations with the leadership of the LPNR, the Nazis told him on his face for this, and today this "projector" is already saying the opposite to the previous one. This is such an unfinished thing, such are the aborigines living in it: "It seems that they are not idlers and could live ...".

[Chaldon48]

The Kiev "elite" do not care if the state of Ukraine will exist or not. The main thing is to please the elite in the United States, and there at least the grass does not grow.

[venik]

Quote: Chaldon48

The Kiev "elite" do not care if the state of Ukraine will exist or not. The main thing is to please the elite in the United States, and there at least the grass does not grow.

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Why are they asked to lose something? "Reserve airfields" in the form of American, European and Israeli citizenship (and this despite the fact that the Ukrainian constitution already has double (especially triple and quadruple citizenship - excludes!), Real estate "over the hill" - money plundered "by overwork" - also have long been transferred to "offshore" ...... Just cross the border (even with a carcass, even with a stuffed animal) and bye-bye - "Farewell to unwashed Ukraine" !! (By the way, the pig-fuehrer of a giblet - already sort of "faded" into Spain, where he has a "hatynka" on the very shore of the Mediterranean Sea:

PS Oh, it’s a pity there is no tsunami !!!

[Crimean partisan 1974]

stupid obstinacy in the end will cost them the country ....... you don’t know that the country Ukraine ended back in 2014, now it’s a territory with some kind of population that you can’t even count, it’s just territory U, very contagious and dangerous

[bessmertniy]

Hemisphere USA. The semi-colony of Europe. And restless beggarly people.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

exactly ... colony

[military pensioner]

We do not have a semi-colony, but the people, the simple people, live no better ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: bessmertniy

Hemisphere USA. The semi-colony of Europe.

I realized that half of the staff, and half of the Europeans, and what remains of the Ukrainians?

[Paul Siebert]

Quote: KilleMall

perhaps they don’t know that their stupid obstinacy will ultimately cost them the country ...

Yes, I don’t know.
But they are not going to talk not only with the republics. And with Russia, Putin, part of the European Union, which advocates a ceasefire and the implementation of the Minsk agreements.
Let them be silent. When their mouth is closed, they breathe easier.
We have spoken with the Chechen field m in both wars. They tried to convince, to interpret, to prevent losses ... That's why they won - the truth was behind us.
And Donbass is not Chechnya. Militias do not blow up apartment buildings in Kiev, do not seize schools and hospitals with children in Kherson and Zaporozhye.
If they do so, they will be silent on the alert - they will lose the country. There she is dear ...

[Thrifty]

I opened "Gulchitay little face"! No peace, no "Minsk", the same dastardly strikes on Donbass, the same howl about "Russian troops in large quantities in Donbass"! In short, an old, worn-out record, in a new version! There is information on news feeds that Paroshenko suddenly fled to Italy, or to Spain, and this rat comes out, escaped from a sinking ship called "uk-roina"!

[primala]

New "figures" have appeared in the parliament !? Oh well

[Crimean partisan 1974]

New "figures" have appeared in the parliament !? ...... it is worth calling things by their exact names if there is no country with regards to the territory of Ukraine, in the center there is a zhyryut kodlo called the Rada and all sorts of really predatory hordes called ministries, and the population there lives according to their own laws; , yes there is no such country Ukraine, when will you understand?

[primala]

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

New "figures" have appeared in the parliament !? ...... it is worth calling things by their exact names if there is no country with regards to the territory of Ukraine, in the center there is a zhyryut kodlo called the Rada and all sorts of really predatory hordes called ministries, and the population there lives according to their own laws; , yes there is no such country Ukraine, when will you understand?

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As regards the territory, Ukraine does not have its own borders, because these are the territories of Russia (RSFSR). Let the "Ukrainians" say thank you for giving them the opportunity to feel like "masters".
After observing this "Sabbath" \ Rada for a year, Crimea returned "home" by right.
Failed to dispose of the gift (1954), then we will return home and the rest of the territory.
Ukrainians have never been able and will not be able to live and develop independently. They constantly need a "guide". Today they are ruled by all and sundry. Look at Uman. (oil painting).

[Crimean partisan 1974]

Look at the city of Uman. (oil painting) .... don’t look at what, but are you right? Crimea was Russian and is and will be, and the territory of U .... is not necessary to feed,

[tihonmarine]

Quote: primaala

New "figures" have appeared in the parliament !? Oh well

Everything is natural. The figures gathered, staged cock fights in the Rada. "Arts Council of Quarter 95" headed by Zelensky (chairman of the artistic council) decided that those roosters who played the role poorly should be replaced with new roosters.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

“Sitting on two chairs” is a national trait of the majority, forelocks. The media constantly tell us tales about the “kindness” of the Ukrainian people. Seeing the deputies of this people, I understand what this people are and what they voted for. Either we say goodbye to these people or they will wipe their feet about us. It's time to make a final decision.

[Mountain shooter]

"Chubatye" see power as a means of earning money. The country they "run" (rob) they only need as a source of income ... Therefore - there is a house in Miami - good, "nenki" no - so what?

[Cat]

"Chubatye" see power as a means of earning

Do the "bad boyars" in the Russian Federation view it from some other side? Capitalism ...

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Gato

"bad boyars" in the Russian Federation view it from some other side

And now try to take something undeclared abroad ... Although you are a bad boyar, at least a good one ... Blah, blah, blah - that's good, it's hype, they’ll put the pluses ... But would you know? In fact...
With the indication of surnames and facts.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

"Chubatye" see power as a means of earning money.

As for earning money, I agree, but "the forelock, well, those with the" sealed "they are eastern (skhidnye), but the western (zaidnye) they are without the" sedentary ", and there are more of them. be the color of the pants "so it is said in the film" Kin-dza-dza ".

[stels_07]

It is impossible to recognize Kiev as a participant in the negotiations, it is necessary to agree with the house on Pennsylvania Avenue

[Cat]

The true truth. Why, then, is Putin negotiating with Zelensky? If the Ukrainian government considers LDNR as puppets of Moscow, then it should be considered as a puppet of the United States.

[Pastor]

They are gaining strength and, under the guidance of advisers from the United States, are preparing a Croatian scenario. They feel that people will perish. The main thing is to reach the border. And the people in LDNR did not become so full of Russia. Everything is possible. The main thing for Amers is to shake the country even more: the crown, oil, Syria. Here, I think, Ukraine will arrive in time. No wonder the GDP is in such a hurry to strengthen its power and abolish the supremacy of international law. The trouble is coming, but it is only at the beginning.

[vonWolfenstein]

These Minsk agreements were a means to stop the rapid advance of the DPR army, tied the hands of the liberators of Ukrainian land from the neo-Nazi junta. They helped recover in the Armed Forces, helped the junta gain a foothold in the political field. Time, I repeat, was missed again and now it works against the people's republics and the Russian Federation

[Swordserg]

If you look at the chronology of events, you will see that in parallel with the Donbass there were events in Syria, which was rapidly losing people and territory. At stake was a choice: to help the republics and get a war with Ukraine and the whole West for "annexation" as they call it + the loss of the naval base in Tartus (blocking the presence in the Mediterranean) and a hotbed of terrorists to send them to the Caucasus. So a wise decision was made to eliminate the threat in the BV, preserve the base and, on the basis of international law, protect their interests and begin preparations for a possible war. In fact, they took a break. The country is gradually being removed from dependence on technology imports. Putting into service of new systems. Even then, Putin told industrialists at a meeting in the Kremlin that the sanctions were serious and for a long time. So there is no need to say that time is wasted.

[Kronos]

That's just the country does not get away from depending on technology imports

[Swordserg]

Someone’s? It depends on what. Not all immediately after so many years of suppression of domestic producers by effective managers. During this time, the transition to domestic technology has been achieved in different areas, it is simply not visible who is not following this. Examples that I just remembered: engines for ships, thermal imagers, element base, bn-800 fast neutron reactor, etc.

[Kronos]

The best example is the total dependence of the economy on oil when the currency falls off oil fluctuations

[Swordserg]

You are a strange person) almost all at once) and who doesn’t fall?) Prm sheffsepropalo)

[Kronos]

Putin has been in power for 20 years, but there is no and no for the same period under Brezhnev or Stalin there were grandiose breakthroughs

[Swordserg]

So the people are different) then people lived with ideas about a bright future) and now there are many crooks and indifferent people. Plus "effective managers"

[Sergey Olegovich]

No LDN can be considered as a party to negotiations

This Ukraine cannot be considered as one of the parties to the negotiations. It is Ukraine that does not fulfill the agreements and agreements reached as a result of negotiations.

[Terenin]

. So, in Kiev they stated that “no LDNR should be considered as a party to the negotiations.”

"interesting" you lads ... Well, of course, sitting comfortably in Kiev is possible, it is important to inflate your cheeks, say anything. It’s a completely different matter when you sit in the cauldrons (Ilovaisky, Debaltsovsky ...) with your eyes wide in fear and howling plaintively that you are a friend and brother to everyone ... and you’re ready not only to sign everything, but also kissed everyone .opu

[cniza]

The hardest thing is when your counterpart is stupid ...

[Terenin]

Quote: cniza

The hardest thing is when your counterpart is stupid ...

But it seems to him that he is trickier than everyone

[cniza]

So any stupid thinks, a normal person listens to clever thoughts.

[cniza]

The Russian Federation has been and remains a party to the negotiations.

This is where this clown subtracted?

[Cat]

Quote: cniza

This is where this clown subtracted?

This is a common mantra. Post-Maidan authorities, until the last piece of fat, will deny the existence of an internal conflict in the country.

[cniza]

Well, yes, their ability to say round that it is hot is amazing ...

[Cat]

No wonder. Imagine that the Ukrainian government hit its head and suddenly recognized the existence of a civil war. Who will give loans and how to apply to NATO and the EU with such happiness? How to justify the economic HRC? Again, all these participants in the ATO / OOS are turning from some kind of defenders of the Nenko’s homeland into punitive and looters.

[cniza]

"You can't hide an awl in a sack," and that these NATO and the EU do not know that this is a civil war? of course they know, but for them it is a convenient tool and they could forbid Ukroreykh to call things by their proper names.

[Leonidych]

There is no end to this theater of the absurd. Although in other matters only the collapse of this almost state will put an end to all relations with Ukraine.

[Andrea]

This is the mentality! And on the other hand ... the current junta differs about LDNR in that it is the second reincarnation, but only the percentage of those who voted in it has legitimacy, the policies and methods are the same.
However, I want to note that nothing prevents the states from negotiating with the Taliban, and they do not have a hint of statehood, unlike LDNR.

[Livonetc]

Actually quite true.
In principle, it is impossible to consider the CSD (Kiev stubborn regime) capable of conducting any serious negotiations.
And even more so capable of fulfilling their obligations.
They honestly prove this seventh year.

[cniza]

Even when characters change, tenacity does not change ...

[Chingachguk]

Everything is strange with the people of Ukraine. Only Russophobes rallied tightly and "have" the bulk of the population of Ukraine, and they, in turn, are silent .... They "have", and they "get stronger". You cannot speak Russian, you cannot teach children in Russian, you cannot sing Russian songs, you cannot sing on May 9, Hitler was a cool guy, it turns out. In general, they mock people as they want, and people, apparently, are quite happy with this. Glory to the Marquis de Sade !!!!!!

[Kronos]

And in Russia, the oligarchy also panics and everyone is silent

[Chingachguk]

Well, this is somewhat different .... Your oligarchy does not run around cities with torches and people don’t burn alive ...... But you yourself can bring them to the article, there is the press, there are more powerful structures .... And you for this will not be burned and thrown into prison .....

[Kronos]

They will easily be thrown into prison

[Chingachguk]

And before that, they also burn ..... I think if God turned out to be in the trade union building in Odessa, then you really would now have something to compare ......

[Kronos]

With the fact that Ukraine is worse, I do not argue that Russia has not gone too far

[Chingachguk]

Is Putin your fault? and was everything great under Yeltsin?

[Chingachguk]

If the right people, true patriots of Russia, did not find Putin in their time and did not help him to ascend the "throne" we would already be a third world country ... Without an army, without our sovereignty. Americans from their biological laboratories would conduct experiments on us ...

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Chingachguk

If the right people, true patriots of Russia, did not find Putin in their time and did not help him to ascend to the "throne", we would already be a third world country.

Leave these fantasies to yourself. As Prilepin writes, it was at the request of the curator from Moscow that the Little Russia project was closed.

[Chingachguk]

For me, your Zakhar Prilepin is absolutely not an indicator .... "It is with a clever expression on his face that all the stupid things in the world are done." He has his own party, here Prilepin sculpts everything with a clever face, tries to earn a cheap authority. If something is not done yet, then it should be. If at one time Putin had really introduced an army to Ukraine, we would now have a hundred times more sanctions, and the Ukropov partisans with the Bandera flag and Nazi ideology are inside Russia ... It is a pity for the Ukrainians, of course, but they are split by ideology, venality, dissatisfaction, and therefore have today in their country what they have .... Or is this also Putin's fault and his instructions? I live in Transnistria and I am also not very happy with the fact that Russia has not recognized us for 27 years. But for the most part, we understand that it is difficult for Russia to pull everything alone ... I don't know who your curator is, but it seems to me that he is definitely not from Russia .........

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Chingachguk

I live in Transnistria

Well, that would be where we started. Sitting in a foreign country, talk about another.
I am from the Tula region.

Quote: Chingachguk

I don’t know who your curator is, but I think he’s definitely not from Russia .........

One should be baptized when it seems. Zakharchenko offered Prilepin the post of Minister of Little Russia. Read his memoir: "Some Won't Go to Hell." By the way, isn't the Vesti FM radio station from Transnistria conducting propaganda against Ukraine? We did not have our own powerful ones, they destroyed everything, we had to rent from you. The 500 kilowatt transmitter is yours. Huh?

[Chingachguk]

What are you doing? What memoirs, what radio stations? The last radio station was asked by Petrov and Boshirov when Skripaley went to the UK to poison her, and they dug it in the park ..... Don’t carry nonsense, dear !!!! Or are you Ukrainian?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Chingachguk

What memoirs, what radio stations?

Included misunderstanding? So I repeat. In 2014, Ukraine began broadcasting to Russia in the style of the Radio Liberty of the Cold War on medium waves, ours in return rented your transmitter and Vesti FM began broadcasting on medium waves to Ukraine.

Quote: Chingachguk

The last radio station was asked by Petrov and Boshirov when Skripaley went to the UK to hitch her there and chained her ..... Don’t talk rubbish, dear !!!!

Here you are just talking nonsense.

Quote: Chingachguk

Or are you Ukrainian?

Do you repeat several times that I have nothing to do with Ukraine?

[Chingachguk]

And what about you there, in the "Tula region",
as you say, the broadcasting of FM news in Ukraine is so tormented? And the voice of America broadcast on the territory of Russia does not resent you? Do you advise your friends in Ukraine not to listen to FM news if this is such a terrible news channel in your opinion !!!! In extreme cases, you can turn off the radio and calmly continue to ride .....

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Chingachguk

And the voice of America broadcast on the territory of Russia does not resent you?

All these voices stopped broadcasting a long time ago. So go by. America's voice has stalled in the middle of the noughties.

[Chingachguk]

And broadcast FM news !!!! Horrible!!!!! Does this prevent high miserable Ukrainians from jumping high?

[Chingachguk]

Let me ask you ---- and have you heard VOICES for a long time ???

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Chingachguk

Let me ask you ---- and have you heard VOICES for a long time ???

Besides idiotic jokes, there’s nothing to say?

[Chingachguk]

And what else to answer your nonsense?

[Chingachguk]

So you will still answer the question of how you, in the Tula region, are interrupted by the broadcast of FM news. in Ukraine?

[Chingachguk]

Whose voice bothers you more, the voice of Satanovsky or Anechka Saffron? And tonight, Saffron was on the air with Ukrainian political scientist Vasil Vakarov .... So what?

[Chingachguk]

Radio operator Kat, from yours? What kind of grass do you sprinkle Tula gingerbread on?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Chingachguk

What kind of grass do you sprinkle Tula gingerbread on?

Tula gingerbreads are glazed over and not sprinkled with herbs. A week ago, I bought "boiled condensed milk" stuffed with it.

[Chingachguk]

You think that it was the filling of "boiled condensed milk" ...... You are still crushed if you are worried about broadcasting FM news. in Ukraine......

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Chingachguk

It still flattens you if you care about broadcasting FM news. in Ukraine......

I am worried about the collapse of our broadcasting in our country. At our place, the Ministry of Emergencies began to warn about emergency situations with church ringing. And on the radio solid China mutters about its achievements. Our radio stations are almost nonexistent.

Kaliningrad Oblast became the first in the NWFD, where the Ministry of Emergencies and the Orthodox Diocese agreed to warn the population about emergency situations with a church alarm

https://rg.ru/2014/03/03/reg-szfo/bell-anons.html

[Chingachguk]

Hahahahahah !!!!!! So what's wrong with the FM news? What are you so worried about our Transnistrian repeater ?????

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Chingachguk

Hahahahahah !!!!!!

You decided to piss me off, Indian? Do not contact me again, I will not answer.

[Chingachguk]

Well, thank God ... And then you have to go down to your level .... Consult a doctor if you continue to pester you in the Tula region, the voices of FM news. in Ukraine ... All the best to you.

[Kronos]

The right people are his teacher Yeltsin and friend Sobchak, for whom he worked by the way. There is a photo. How does he drag a suitcase behind Sobchak? It’s ridiculous to talk about sovereignty when the economy directly depends on oil and any decisions of foreign courts are implemented

[Chingachguk]

I perfectly understand your desire to destroy Russia ...... Your examples are stupid .... Your Yeltsin, drunk! It’s useless to argue with that! Sobchak has been gone for a long time, and his daughter should not be allowed close to leading positions; she will surrender Russia to mattresses faster than Zelensky. I have nothing to argue with you. You apparently have a task to brainwash people here. But here are the arguments and examples you have cheap, There will be a vote then and see how people think. Thank God stupid people in Russia are much less than in dill and what is happening today in the world and near Russia shows who is leading the right policy.

[Kronos]

I am not a supporter of Yeltsin but a communist against any bourgeoisie

[Chingachguk]

I wish you good luck in your field ......

[Grits]

Quote: Chingachguk

They mock in general how they want to people, and people, apparently, it is quite satisfied.

Even Odessa showed that there is no pro-Russian majority there. That Odessa is no longer a city of heroes, but a city of Jewish traders and clowns. Then what to say about Kharkov or Zaporozhye. Even in the midst of the "Russian Spring", when the Russians and Russian-speaking could do something, their Nazis stupidly rolled into the asphalt. Smoothed like the last suckers. The rest surrendered to the mercy of the winner and are afraid to croak.
Only the Donbass turned out to be solid, rallied, took up arms and showed in reality what a Russian person is, and not squinting under them.

[Chingachguk]

At the expense of Odessa, it’s not so simple ..... I visit Odessa several times a month, on business. To Odessa from our city 80 km. People spit when they talk about power, but they can’t raise their heads, the regime grazes everyone tightly. Nationalists are abarzels, and people have families, children. The state will not feed them if something happens to you .... People say that they are ready for the development of the military, but they need a boost and support from Russia. Russia has no border with Odessa as with the Donbass, therefore everything is much more complicated. But in general, I also think that the city is a million people, and the city is a hero, surrendered without a fight ......

[Grits]

Quote: Chingachguk

People spit when they talk about power, but they can’t raise their heads, the regime grazes everyone tightly. Nationalists are abarzels, and people have families, children. The state will not feed them if something happens to you ....

This is exactly what I was talking about. During the Second World War there were underground, partisan detachments. And this is in conditions much more terrible. But people opposed the invaders. I don’t think it’s more difficult now than during the war. They simply don’t have the courage to go further than a whisper in the kitchen - it’s not for nothing that they are called hatskrayniki.

[Chingachguk]

So they still can’t figure it out among themselves! One another can pass the SBU like glass containers! That's why they silently smile at each other, holding an ax behind their back ...

[Tuzik]

Quote: Chingachguk

Everything is strange with the people of Ukraine. Only Russophobes have rallied tightly and "have" the bulk of the population of Ukraine, and those, in turn, are silent

I noticed the Dnieper in my Russian-speaking city (Petrovsky was crossed out), after the annexation of Crimea and the hostilities in the Donbas, there were more Russophiles among the Russophobes. It could not even be imagined before. I hope the leaders of our countries have enough mind in the future to make peace.

[arsenide]

according to Ukrainian laws this cannot be done, since there are foreign troops

So take them out - someone home, someone in the barracks ...

[rotmistr60]

... and this is normal for a democratic country.

Himself is not funny. Ukraine - a democratic country is the shortest joke. A country where a ball is ruled by less than a third of militant fascist nationalists, a country at war with its peoples, a country where people with other views, if not killed, beaten and imprisoned, dare to call themselves democratic? Ducks and no other way.

[Lord of the Sith]

Kiev: No LDNR should be considered as a party to negotiations

Well, go to the corner, wait there, think about your behavior. And time goes on, it works against you, and the Republics are being built.
Oh, and the stench from the west will be when our Republics recognize))

[Kronos]

This has been heard for 6 years now, and as there is no recognition of no end to the war, no improvement in the situation in LDNR can be expected.

[Lord of the Sith]

About improving the situation, we seem to know better))
But there is no longer a war in fact, so that the Sumerians would not stink in their media.

[Kronos]

There is no war? Shelling, the death of people and soldiers of the DPR, the killing of all prominent commanders including Zakharchenko is this improvement?

[Lord of the Sith]

Are India and Pakistan, for example, at war? And there are territorial claims to each other, and they shoot at the border almost every day.
Nagorno-Karabakh. You can go on for a long time, all over the world.

Are the Yankees at war with Iran? No. Like the Jews. But the shooting continues, as do the casualties on all sides.

You would study the term "war" and what it is and how it differs from conflicts along the line of contact.

By the way, the killings of commanders in the LPR and DPR are state terrorism.

[Kronos]

In general, Iran and Syria are in a state of formal war with Israel. In Nagorno-Karabakh, it is precisely that border conflicts are by the way, which almost not so long ago did not pass into a new war. And in the DPR, it is the war that continues the shelling every day, people also die every day. infrastructure is collapsing. This is called a sluggish current positional war.

[Lord of the Sith]

But in the LPR then there is no war, judging by your words or what?

But don’t call it, it’s nothing more than a sluggish srach. Have you ever been to the Donbass, saw what is happening there? Or have you seen enough videos on the internet?

By the way, all the infrastructure that could be destroyed was destroyed in 14-15 and has already been partially rebuilt.

[Kronos]

I live there in Donetsk

[Lord of the Sith]

In which Donetsk, Russian?))

[Kronos]

No in the DNI which

[Lord of the Sith]

So what? Where did you fight, what did you see, with whom did you know, where was he?
Title, position?

[Kronos]

A civilian has not fought anywhere, but has been to all front lines, and now hedgehogs regularly visit relatives in Ukraine, and I see how there is no war when they regularly shoot

[Lord of the Sith]

Here you are, dear))
SBU not recruited? Maybe it was you who directed the ukroterrorists at our commanders?
What side of the front line were, and what did they sniff out? Speak, do not be shy, all are here.

[Looking for]

In which division of the SBU are you working?

[Sergey-8848]

Gradually, attempts to jam a soft hat are seen. Do not sleep!

[Alexander Barinov]

This rottenness on the part of Ukraine * will continue as long as VV Putin considers and calls them * fraternal folk for the Russians.

[Operator]

Who is interested in the opinion of Kiev, which will die out in a month from the coronavirus brought by the zarobitans from Europe?

[iouris]

Clear. The "Minsk and Normandy format" is a political mistake. "All LDNRs" must be integrated into the Russian Federation.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

The old song for suckers continues with new singers!

[Alex Nevs]

Well, let them resume negotiations with the penguins of Antarctica.! Perhaps it will grow together.

[cat Rusich]

Donbass is simply obliged to decide whether to return to its homeland (Russia) or liberate the occupied land of Novorossia from the Nazis, and further build the state of Novorossia. To begin with, the DPR and LPR are obliged to unite into one whole - the Donbass. The world will be - after the Victory!

[Kronos]

Firstly, Russia makes decisions for which they put the governed, secondly, it’s corny there are no forces without Russia to free the territories, but it doesn’t need it

[cat Rusich]

For starters, over the past 5 years, starting in 2015, the DPR and LPR could unite into one state entity - to determine the name by popular vote. And on behalf of the united people of Donbass to conduct any relations with Kiev.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: cat Rusich

To begin with, over the past 5 years, starting in 2015, the DPR and LPR could unite into one state entity

Well, so they announced Malorosii three years ago with the capital in Donetsk.

Representatives of the DNR, LC and 19 regions of Ukraine today announced the creation of the state of Little Russia. The constitutional act of the new state was read at the meeting of delegates in Donetsk by the Acting Deputy Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the DPR Alexander Timofeev.
We, the representatives of the former regions of "Ukraine" (with the exception of the Crimea) declare the establishment of a new state, which is the successor of "Ukraine". We agree that the new state will be called Little Russia, since the name Ukraine itself has discredited itself
- states in the constitutional act.

https://topwar.ru/120751-zaharchenko-obyavil-o-sozdanii-gosudarstva-malorossiya.html

[23424636]

The train has long gone. And people run around with suitcases in the hope that the driver will return the train. The main mistakes are to disagree with everything that is written there in Minsky and move on. And then it’s very difficult there even if the elections take place how the border crossing will be carried out. No way. Donbass is simply a guarantee of Ukraine’s non-entry into NATO. And if the border returns. They will immediately sign the papers as soon as with Montenegro or Macedonia. I think they have been gathering dust for a long time.

[Tuareg72]

But kuev in general cannot be considered as a subject of international law!
Swarniah does not fit into any of the country's concepts