Kiev: No LDNR should be considered as a party to negotiations

Kiev: No LDNR should be considered as a party to negotiations

The next stage of negotiations on the situation in the Donbass in the so-called Minsk format has ended. Once again, the Kiev attempt to sit on several chairs is noteworthy: when the OSCE representatives are watching the negotiation process, the Kiev side declares its readiness to comply with the Minsk agreements, but as soon as the Ukrainian delegation returns to Ukraine, the exclamations that the Minsk agreements are resumed must be reviewed.


So, in Kiev they stated that “no LDNR should be considered as a party to the negotiations.”

From the statement of the deputy of the Verkhovna Rada from the presidential party "Servant of the People" Evgenia Kravchuk after meeting with the head of the office of President Zelensky Andrei Ermak:

The deputies expressed public concerns and this is normal for a democratic country. The head of the president’s office listened to these concerns and assured that the red lines would not be crossed. The Russian Federation has been and remains a party to the negotiations. No one is negotiating with the leaders of the militants and is not going to conduct them.

Refusing direct negotiations with representatives of the Donbass, they said in Kiev that they would refuse to implement the Minsk agreements, but ...

Andrey Ermak on the air of Ukrainian TV:

I can tell you frankly that many of them very often tell us that if you want to leave Minsk, if you are not going to fulfill the Minsk agreements, tell us, but we warn you that this will have a very powerful result regarding the extension of sanctions (against Russian Federation).

The head of Zelensky’s office stated that Kiev “is ready to hold elections in the ORDLO (as the Ukrainian authorities call the uncontrolled territories of Donbass), but this cannot be done according to Ukrainian laws, since there are foreign troops there.” At the same time, the presence of American, Canadian and British military contingents on its territory for some reason did not prevent the holding of elections in Ukraine.
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  1. Killemall 14 March 2020 07: 47 New
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    perhaps they don’t know that their stupid obstinacy will ultimately cost them the country ...
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      1. Insurgent 14 March 2020 08: 03 New
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        Kiev: No LDNR should be considered as a party to negotiations

        That's it! You flogged yourself, like a non-commissioned widow, recognizing us "abroad."

        HAVE TO RECOGNIZE, and de facto, and de jure!

        Ukraine closes from coronavirus. Reuters reports that Kiev intends to close checkpoints with the republics of Donbass.This proposal was put forward by Arsen Avakov.


        AND... fellow

        President of Ukraine Vladimir Zelensky announced the tightening of measures against the spread of coronavirus. The country has closed its borders to foreigners since March 16.
        Quote: President of Ukraine V.A. Zelensky
        Foreign citizens will not be able to enter the territory of Ukraine: neither by plane, nor by train, nor by car, or by any other means

        1. Hunter 2 14 March 2020 08: 15 New
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          And before the borders were closed, the tourists poured directly into Ukraine! belay
          Regarding the Minsk agreements, there is only another surprise ... how can I forget Who and with whom signed it ??? Actually, apparently, you can ... if all in eleven points - constantly find something new. Idiocy!
          1. Insurgent 14 March 2020 08: 19 New
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            Quote: Hunter 2
            how can I forget Who and with whom signed it ??? Actually, apparently you can ... if all in eleven points - constantly find something new. Idiocy!


            Better than the greatest philosopher of antiquity, I will not answer:

          2. Egoza 14 March 2020 08: 36 New
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            Quote: Hunter 2
            And before the borders were closed, the tourists poured directly into Ukraine!

            Well, not tourists, but zarobitchans ..... "asked" them from Europe!
          3. Svetlana 14 March 2020 09: 04 New
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            >> And before the closure of the border-tourists straight fell into Ukraine! <<

            Tourists or not but foreigners go there. Entrepreneurs of medium and small hands from Western Europe, Ukraine is interested in a PDA supplier of cheap goods.
            For example, consumer goods, I don’t want to say what exactly, from the shops of Ukraine are taken to Germany and put up for sale on Amazon and Ebee. About one in three trucks goes into marriage, but the profit from the remaining two is equally sufficient.
          4. donavi49 14 March 2020 10: 11 New
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            In fact yes. Just a little earlier. Immediately after visa-free travel. There for 500 euros in Kiev, you could panovuyut a week. A unique offer so to speak. Now, despite the course of 25-26, prices have grown. Therefore, it will not work directly. We need more euros.
          5. Kronos 14 March 2020 11: 14 New
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            And from Ukraine there signed persons who did not have power even then for
          6. tihonmarine 14 March 2020 13: 47 New
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            Quote: Hunter 2

            And before the borders were closed, the tourists poured directly into Ukraine!

            But there were many tourists from Ukraine to Europe. The latter arrived yesterday through Warsaw (before the border was closed). We arrived on a Polish visa to work, under the guise of a business trip. Probably the other day this type of tourism will be closed.
        2. rich 14 March 2020 10: 20 New
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          Zelensky urgently turned to the Ukrainians because of the coronavirus. The country has closed its borders to foreigners since March 16

          Urgent? Yes, how! Exactly 2 hours after Donald Trump appealed to the Americans about the introduction of a state of emergency in the United States in connection with the spread of coronavirus. The US has closed its borders to foreigners since March 16. In general, after listening to Trump’s appeal, and then Zelensky’s appeal, it seems that the texts were written to them in the same place. repeat
          1. Insurgent 14 March 2020 10: 22 New
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            Quote: Rich
            In general, having listened to Trump’s appeal, and then Zelensky’s appeal creates the feeling that the texts were written to them in the same place.

            yes In the cesspool.
          2. Grits 14 March 2020 11: 09 New
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            Quote: Rich
            it seems that the texts they wrote in the same place.

            No, just a mongrel is in a hurry to repeat exactly all the actions of his master in order to please him. To pat on the withers and give a hand (???) to lick.
            1. Lelek 14 March 2020 18: 56 New
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              Quote: Gritsa
              To pat on the withers and give a hand (???) to lick.

              hi
              Not only do we perceive that the hetman-lyceum on the withers will be spread rot, not by the Americans, but by their home-grown Natsiks (like the days before Sivokho).
          3. tihonmarine 14 March 2020 13: 49 New
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            Quote: Rich
            In general, having listened to Trump’s appeal, and then Zelensky’s appeal creates the feeling that the texts were written to them in the same place.

            Zelensky was sent from the State Department according to the “soap”.
        3. Lelek 14 March 2020 12: 19 New
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          Quote: Insurgent
          HAVE TO RECOGNIZE, and de facto, and de jure!

          hi
          Is not a fact. You know the nature of dill - today says one thing, tomorrow - another, the day after tomorrow - "did not say anything." This is Ruin, the brother of Horatio, where they can come up with what our sages did not dream of. bully Yes, here's another thing, “Hryundel” Valtsman washed away over the hill from the trial of his bloody activities:
          1. Insurgent 14 March 2020 22: 50 New
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            Quote: Lelek
            Not a fact.


            Fact fact yes It's only time.
            But in general :
            Quote: Seeker
            De facto republics have existed since 2014.
            1. Lelek 15 March 2020 12: 53 New
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              Quote: Insurgent
              It's only time.


              And how long will this pro-fascist entity - “former Ukraine” exist? As long as it is as it is now, it will not recognize LDNR. Yes, perhaps the Russian Federation will finally hold recognition of the independence of the republics (which I really hope, and probably would), but dill Bandera-Nazi persuasion - never.
              1. Insurgent 15 March 2020 16: 40 New
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                Quote: Lelek
                Yes, perhaps the Russian Federation will finally hold recognition of the independence of the republics (which I really hope, and probably would), but dill Bandera-Nazi persuasion - never.

                Have I written about the recognition of what remains (or still remains)? Especially the "package"?

                During this time, in the DPR and LPR, we have become largely fatalists, therefore, as it will be, it will be so.
        4. Looking for 14 March 2020 17: 39 New
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          De facto republics have existed since 2014.
    2. Zhan 14 March 2020 07: 57 New
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      Quote: KilleMall
      perhaps they don’t know that their stupid obstinacy will ultimately cost them the country ...

      This is not a stupid obstinacy, this is the understanding that in another way they will not work their 30 pieces of silver. In the meantime, while the DEBATES are on, Ukraine is being pulled away for parts.
      Those who did this with Ukraine, now very competently and skillfully finish it.
      1. tihonmarine 14 March 2020 13: 51 New
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        Quote: Zhan
        Those who did this with Ukraine, now very competently and skillfully finish it.

        And consider the profit.
    3. maidan.izrailovich 14 March 2020 07: 58 New
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      ... will ultimately cost them a country ...

      The course taken for Russophobia in the end it will cost them the country.
      1. bessmertniy 14 March 2020 08: 10 New
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        The Ukrainian elite prefers to negotiate not with the people that they consider their own, but with the Americans and Europe. Some of the people have already sent her to a known address. It remains for the rest of Ukraine to deal with their leaders themselves.
        1. Incvizitor 14 March 2020 10: 27 New
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          Ukrainian elite
          they are accustomed to treating people as gallops and worrying only about the land, and the people are worth nothing to them, only here in the DPR LPR people will not tolerate this.
        2. tihonmarine 14 March 2020 13: 58 New
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          Quote: bessmertniy
          Some of the people have already sent her to a known address.

          An anecdote about Vovochka at school “Vovochka what does minus mean? Marvanovna I don’t know what is minus, but dad said there is a big minus. Little Vovochka in mathematics there is no big minus. But dad said that there is, and this is the state of Ukraine with a big minus, because that Crimea, the Lugansk People's Republic and the DPR left it. "
      2. Insurgent 14 March 2020 08: 22 New
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        Quote: maidan.izrailovich
        The course taken for Russophobia in the end will cost them the country.

      3. Egoza 14 March 2020 08: 37 New
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        Quote: maidan.izrailovich
        The course taken for Russophobia in the end will cost them the country.

        That would be faster!
        1. tihonmarine 14 March 2020 13: 59 New
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          Quote: Egoza
          That would be faster!

          I wonder what will happen next?
          1. Lelek 14 March 2020 19: 08 New
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            Quote: tihonmarine
            I wonder what will happen next?

            hi
            Bloody "upgrade" because the natsipiteks simply will not give up the "conquered", and external "sponsors" will instantly present bills for paying off debts. Much will depend on the position of Russia, but it is impossible for her (Russia) to take over the debts of the "Svidomites" and substitute for a long-term mess in the Ruin. Today Yermak’s warnings regarding the “Minsk Agreements” are real:

            As regards the situation on the front in the Donbass, today:
            1. tihonmarine 14 March 2020 21: 02 New
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              Quote: Lelek
              Much will depend on the position of Russia, but it is impossible for her (Russia) to take over the debts of the "Svidomites" and substitute for a long-term mess in the Ruin.

              So the answer is simple. Debts only increase, and they will have to be paid. Only who needs it.
              1. Lelek 15 March 2020 13: 14 New
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                Quote: tihonmarine
                Only who needs it.

                hi , Vlad.
                Is it really not clear? This is part of the Western strategy of "lowering" such a nasty Russia. To create hostile "cordon" states on the border with the Russian Federation. “Pump up” their debt obligations to the West as much as possible, plunder and tear apart industry, resources and economies in them. And finally, with the help of Western "tools" (courts, foundations, the media and other casuistry), restoring these "ruins" on the shoulders of Russia, which will drown under this burden, will be entrusted. Something like this - a repeat of the fate of the USSR. And after all, something they vile succeeds (the Baltic states, Ukraine, Georgia and other young Europeans, but right now Belarus is at stake).
                1. tihonmarine 15 March 2020 13: 34 New
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                  Quote: Lelek
                  Is it really not clear? This is part of the Western strategy of "lowering" such a nasty Russia.

                  It’s clear to me, but they don’t understand the “ovules” that they are being pushed into a debt hole. And the time comes that they are no longer the debts, not Russia, and Europe will not be able to pay. Only cut, "hands uphill, no Russian, you want a Ukrainian!"
            2. asv363 15 March 2020 04: 56 New
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              Leo, categorically welcome!
              Quote: Lelek
              As regards the situation at the front in the Donbass, today

              Here are the incomplete data on the DPR for the last day:
              Only the day before yesterday 30 times the DNI was fired upon, three civilians were wounded on the night of the 14th (Horlivka). Yesterday morning, as a result of shelling, a man born in 1935 was wounded, his condition is very serious. According to the latest data, he died.
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              On the night of March 14, at 1:35, fighters of the 58th brigade fired at the outskirts of the city of Gorlovka with 122 mm artillery, firing 10 shells at the village, as a result of which three civilians were injured and a number of house-building were damaged.


              On March 14, VFU militants fired at the village of Signal, as a result of which a civilian born in 1935 was injured, TWO residential buildings at the addresses of ul. Gagarina, 12 and 16, as well as damaged power lines, supplying electricity to the Signal and northern outskirts of the village of Elenovka.
              1. Lelek 15 March 2020 12: 39 New
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                Quote: asv363
                asv363 (Sergey Vyacheslavovich)

                hi
                Let's not be naive. The Nazis, “Dobrobats” and Avakovs rule in this state entity called “former Ukraine”. Whatever the “agreements” at the top (and these same “tops” of the Ruins, using jargon, are not responsible for their “bazaar”) everything is decided “on the ground” by a brutal crowd of Nazi-style marginals. Here the day before yesterday, Sivokho spoke for contact negotiations with the leaders of the LDNR, the Natsiks got him on the face for this, and today this "spotlight" already says the opposite of the previous one. This is such an unfinished one, the natives live in it: "It seems that they are not idlers and could live ...".
    4. Chaldon48 14 March 2020 08: 08 New
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      The Kiev "elite" doesn’t care if the state of Ukraine exists or not, the main thing is to please the elite in the USA, and even though the grass doesn’t grow there.
      1. venik 14 March 2020 14: 17 New
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        Quote: Chaldon48
        The Kiev "elite" doesn’t care if the state of Ukraine exists or not, the main thing is to please the elite in the USA, and even though the grass doesn’t grow there.

        =======
        And why is they asking to lose something? “Reserve airfields” in the form of American, European and Israeli citizenship (and this despite the fact that the Ukrainian constitution is double (especially triple and quadruple citizenship - it excludes!) They already have real estate “over the hill” - money stolen by “overwork” - also long ago been transferred to "offshore" ...... Only cross the border (at least with a carcass, even with a scarecrow) and by-bye - "Farewell to the unwashed Ukraine" !! Spain, where he has a “Khatynka” on the very shore of the Mediterranean Sea:

        PS Oh, it’s a pity there is no tsunami !!!
    5. Crimean partisan 1974 14 March 2020 08: 20 New
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      stupid obstinacy in the end will cost them the country ....... you don’t know that the country Ukraine ended back in 2014, now it’s a territory with some kind of population that you can’t even count, it’s just territory U, very contagious and dangerous
      1. bessmertniy 14 March 2020 10: 31 New
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        Hemisphere USA. The semi-colony of Europe. And restless beggarly people. request
        1. Crimean partisan 1974 14 March 2020 11: 13 New
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          exactly ... colony
        2. military pensioner 14 March 2020 13: 09 New
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          We do not have a semi-colony, but the people, the simple people, live no better ...
        3. tihonmarine 14 March 2020 14: 06 New
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          Quote: bessmertniy
          Hemisphere USA. The semi-colony of Europe.

          I realized that half of the staff, and half of the Europeans, and what remains of the Ukrainians?
    6. Paul Siebert 14 March 2020 12: 13 New
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      Quote: KilleMall
      perhaps they don’t know that their stupid obstinacy will ultimately cost them the country ...

      Yes, I don’t know.
      But they are not going to talk not only with the republics. And with Russia, Putin, part of the European Union, which advocates a ceasefire and the implementation of the Minsk agreements.
      Let them be silent. When their mouth is closed, they breathe easier.
      We have spoken with the Chechen field m in both wars. They tried to convince, to interpret, to prevent losses ... That's why they won - the truth was behind us.
      And Donbass is not Chechnya. Militias do not blow up apartment buildings in Kiev, do not seize schools and hospitals with children in Kherson and Zaporozhye.
      If they do so, they will be silent on the alert - they will lose the country. There she is dear ... wink
  2. Thrifty 14 March 2020 07: 50 New
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    Opened "Gyulchita face"! No peace, no "Minsk", the same vile attacks on the Donbass, the same howl about "Russian troops en masse in the Donbass"! In short, the old, hackneyed record, in a new version! There is information on the news feeds that Paroshenko suddenly escaped to Italy, or to Spain, and this rat comes out, escaped from a sinking ship called "uk-roina"!
  3. primaala 14 March 2020 07: 54 New
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    New "figures" appeared in the parliament !? Oh well
    1. Crimean partisan 1974 14 March 2020 08: 31 New
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      New "figures" appeared in the parliament !? ...... it is worth calling things by exact names if with regards to the territory of the U. there is no country, in the center a jabbering kodla called a rada and all sorts of really predatory horns called ministries, and the population lives there according to their own laws dissolving local arbitrators in each separate region their orders , but there is no such country as Ukraine, when will you understand?
      1. primaala 14 March 2020 09: 34 New
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        Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
        New "figures" appeared in the parliament !? ...... it is worth calling things by exact names if with regards to the territory of the U. there is no country, in the center a jabbering kodla called a rada and all sorts of really predatory horns called ministries, and the population lives there according to their own laws dissolving local arbitrators in each separate region their orders , but there is no such country as Ukraine, when will you understand?

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        With regards to the territory, Ukraine still has no borders, because it is the territory of Russia (RSFSR). Let the "Ukrainians" say thanks for giving them the opportunity to feel like "masters."
        Watching that year for this "coven" \ rada, Crimea returned "home" by right.
        Failed to dispose of the gift (1954), then we will return home and the rest of the territory.
        Ukrainians could never and will not be able to live and develop independently. They constantly need a guide. Today they are ruled by all and sundry. Look at the city of Uman. (oil painting).
        1. Crimean partisan 1974 14 March 2020 11: 04 New
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          Look at the city of Uman. (oil painting) .... don’t look at what, but are you right? Crimea was Russian and is and will be, and the territory of U .... is not necessary to feed,
    2. tihonmarine 14 March 2020 14: 13 New
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      Quote: primaala
      New "figures" appeared in the parliament !? Oh well

      Everything is natural. The figures gathered, cocked in fights in the Rada. “The Art Council of Quarter 95”, headed by Zelensky (chairman of the Art Council), decided that those roosters who played a bad role should be replaced with new roosters.
  4. Andrei Nikolaevich 14 March 2020 08: 07 New
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    “Sitting on two chairs” is a national trait of the majority, forelocks. The media constantly tell us tales about the “kindness” of the Ukrainian people. Seeing the deputies of this people, I understand what this people are and what they voted for. Either we say goodbye to these people or they will wipe their feet about us. It's time to make a final decision.
  5. Mountain shooter 14 March 2020 08: 18 New
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    "Chubati" consider power as a means of earning. The country that they "control" (rob) they only need as a source of income ... Because - there is a house in Miami - well, there aren’t any "nenko" - so what?
    1. Gato 14 March 2020 10: 43 New
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      Chubati consider power as a means of earning

      And the "bad boyars" in the Russian Federation consider it from some other side? Capitalism is ...
      1. Mountain shooter 14 March 2020 11: 33 New
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        Quote: Gato
        "bad boyars" in the Russian Federation consider it from some other side

        And now try to take something undeclared abroad ... Although you are a bad boyar, at least a good one ... Blah, blah, blah - that's good, it's hype, they’ll put the pluses ... But would you know? In fact...
        With the indication of surnames and facts.
    2. tihonmarine 14 March 2020 14: 19 New
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      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      "Chubati" consider power as a means of earning.

      As for the earnings, I agree, but they’re ч chubby ’, well, those with the ос ед ед цем’ ’they are oriental (shy), but the western (ид ные)) то) ones are without a ос ед ца’ ’, and there are more of them. Here the problem goes by the forelocks. be in the color of the pants "as the film" Kin-dza-dza "says.
  6. stels_07 14 March 2020 08: 19 New
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    It is impossible to recognize Kiev as a participant in the negotiations, it is necessary to agree with the house on Pennsylvania Avenue
    1. Gato 14 March 2020 10: 42 New
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      The true truth. Why, then, is Putin negotiating with Zelensky? If the Ukrainian government considers LDNR as puppets of Moscow, then it should be considered as a puppet of the United States.
  7. Pastor 14 March 2020 08: 22 New
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    They are gaining strength and, under the guidance of advisers from the United States, are preparing a Croatian scenario. They feel that people will perish. The main thing is to reach the border. And the people in LDNR did not become so full of Russia. Everything is possible. The main thing for Amers is to shake the country even more: the crown, oil, Syria. Here, I think, Ukraine will arrive in time. No wonder the GDP is in such a hurry to strengthen its power and abolish the supremacy of international law. The trouble is coming, but it is only at the beginning.
  8. vonWolfenstein 14 March 2020 08: 27 New
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    These Minsk agreements were a means to stop the rapid advance of the DPR army, tied the hands of the liberators of Ukrainian land from the neo-Nazi junta. They helped recover in the Armed Forces, helped the junta gain a foothold in the political field. Time, I repeat, was missed again and now it works against the people's republics and the Russian Federation
    1. Swordserg 14 March 2020 08: 44 New
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      If you look at the chronology of events, you will see that in parallel with the Donbass there were events in Syria, which quickly lost people and territories. The choice was at stake: to help the republics and get a war with Ukraine and the whole West for "annexation" as they call + loss of the Navy base in Tartus (blocking presence in the Mediterranean) and a hotbed of terrorists to send us to the Caucasus. So a wise decision was made to eliminate the threat in the BV, preserve the base and, on the basis of international law, protect our interests and begin preparations for a possible war. In fact, they took a break. The country is smoothly withdrawn from dependence on technology imports. Arming new systems. Even then, Putin told industrialists at a meeting in the Kremlin that sanctions were serious and for a long time. So do not say that time is lost.
      1. Kronos 14 March 2020 11: 18 New
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        That's just the country does not get away from depending on technology imports
        1. Swordserg 14 March 2020 12: 32 New
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          Someone’s? It depends on what. Not all immediately after so many years of suppression of domestic producers by effective managers. During this time, the transition to domestic technology has been achieved in different areas, it is simply not visible who is not following this. Examples that I just remembered: engines for ships, thermal imagers, element base, bn-800 fast neutron reactor, etc.
          1. Kronos 14 March 2020 12: 40 New
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            The best example is the total dependence of the economy on oil when the currency falls off oil fluctuations
            1. Swordserg 14 March 2020 20: 11 New
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              You are a strange person) almost all at once) and who doesn’t fall?) Prm sheffsepropalo)
              1. Kronos 14 March 2020 20: 12 New
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                Putin has been in power for 20 years, but there is no and no for the same period under Brezhnev or Stalin there were grandiose breakthroughs
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                  So the people are different) then people lived with ideas about a bright future) and now a lot of crooks so indifferent. Plus "effective managers"
  9. Sergey Olegovich 14 March 2020 08: 43 New
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    No LDN can be considered as a party to negotiations

    This Ukraine cannot be considered as one of the parties to the negotiations. It is Ukraine that does not fulfill the agreements and agreements reached as a result of negotiations.
  10. Terenin 14 March 2020 08: 48 New
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    . So, in Kiev they stated that “no LDNR should be considered as a party to the negotiations.”
    "interesting" you guys ... winked Well, of course, sitting comfortably in Kiev is possible, it is important to inflate your cheeks, say anything. It’s a completely different matter when you sit in the cauldrons (Ilovaisky, Debaltsovsky ...) with your eyes wide in fear and howling plaintively that you are a friend and brother to everyone ... and you’re ready not only to sign everything, but also kissed everyone .opu belay
    1. cniza 14 March 2020 08: 50 New
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      The hardest thing is when your counterpart is stupid ...
      1. Terenin 14 March 2020 10: 05 New
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        Quote: cniza
        The hardest thing is when your counterpart is stupid ...

        But it seems to him that he is trickier than everyone fool
        1. cniza 14 March 2020 10: 19 New
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          So any stupid thinks, a normal person listens to clever thoughts.
  11. cniza 14 March 2020 08: 49 New
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    The Russian Federation has been and remains a party to the negotiations.


    This is where this clown subtracted?
    1. Gato 14 March 2020 10: 36 New
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      This is where this clown subtracted?

      This is a common mantra. Post-Maidan authorities, until the last piece of fat, will deny the existence of an internal conflict in the country.
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        Well, yes, their ability to say round that it is hot is amazing ...
        1. Gato 14 March 2020 10: 56 New
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          No wonder. Imagine that the Ukrainian government hit its head and suddenly recognized the existence of a civil war. Who will give loans and how to apply to NATO and the EU with such happiness? How to justify the economic HRC? Again, all these participants in the ATO / OOS are turning from some kind of defenders of the Nenko’s homeland into punitive and looters.
          1. cniza 14 March 2020 10: 59 New
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            "You can’t hide the awl in a bag," and what do these NATO and the EU do not know that this is a civil war? Of course they know, but for them it is a convenient tool and they could forbid Ukroreih to call a spade a spade.
  12. Leonidych 14 March 2020 09: 06 New
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    There is no end to this theater of the absurd. Although in other matters only the collapse of this almost state will put an end to all relations with Ukraine.
  13. Andrea 14 March 2020 09: 06 New
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    This is the mentality! fool And on the other hand ... the current junta differs about LDNR in that it is the second reincarnation, but only the percentage of those who voted in it has legitimacy, the policies and methods are the same.
    However, I want to note that nothing prevents the states from negotiating with the Taliban, and they do not have a hint of statehood, unlike LDNR.
  14. Livonetc 14 March 2020 09: 16 New
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    Actually quite true.
    In principle, it is impossible to consider the CSD (Kiev stubborn regime) capable of conducting any serious negotiations.
    And even more so capable of fulfilling their obligations.
    They honestly prove this seventh year.
    1. cniza 14 March 2020 10: 20 New
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      Even when characters change, tenacity does not change ...
  15. Chingachguk 14 March 2020 10: 23 New
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    Everything is strange like that with the people of Ukraine. Only Russophobes rallied tightly and “have” a large part of the Ukrainian population, and they, in turn, are silent .... They “have”, and they “grow stronger”. You can’t speak Russian, you can’t teach children in Russian, you can’t sing Russian songs, you can’t sing on May 9, Hitler turned out to be a cool guy. They mock in general how they want to people, and people, apparently, it is quite satisfied. Glory to the Marquis de Sade !!!!!!
    1. Kronos 14 March 2020 11: 19 New
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      And in Russia, the oligarchy also panics and everyone is silent
      1. Chingachguk 14 March 2020 15: 22 New
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        Well, this is somewhat different .... Your oligarchy does not run around cities with torches and people don’t burn alive ...... But you yourself can bring them to the article, there is the press, there are more powerful structures .... And you for this will not be burned and thrown into prison .....
        1. Kronos 14 March 2020 15: 22 New
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          They will easily be thrown into prison
          1. Chingachguk 14 March 2020 15: 40 New
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            And before that, they also burn ..... I think if God turned out to be in the trade union building in Odessa, then you really would now have something to compare ......
            1. Kronos 14 March 2020 15: 44 New
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              With the fact that Ukraine is worse, I do not argue that Russia has not gone too far
              1. Chingachguk 14 March 2020 15: 45 New
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                Is Putin your fault? laughing and was everything great under Yeltsin? wink
                1. Chingachguk 14 March 2020 15: 48 New
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                  If the right people, the true patriots of Russia, did not find Putin in their time and did not help him ascend the throne, we would already be a third world country ... ... Without an army, without its sovereignty. Americans from their biological laboratories would conduct experiments on us ....
                  1. Mordvin 3 14 March 2020 15: 54 New
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                    Quote: Chingachguk
                    If the right people, the true patriots of Russia, did not find Putin in their time and did not help him ascend the throne, we would already be a third world country.

                    You leave these fantasies to yourself. According to Prilepin, it was at the request of the curator from Moscow that the Little Russia project was closed.
                    1. Chingachguk 14 March 2020 19: 57 New
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                      For me, your Zakhar Prilepin is absolutely not an indicator .... "It is with a clever expression that all stupid things are done in the world." He has his own party, here Prilepin sculpts everything with a smart physiognomy, he tries to earn cheap authority. If something is not done yet, then it should be so. If Putin had really brought an army into Ukraine at one time, we would now have a hundred times more sanctions, and the Ukropov guerrillas with the Bandera flag and Nazi ideology are exactly inside Russia ...... Ukrainians are certainly sorry, but they are split by ideology, venality, dissatisfaction, and therefore today they have in their country what they have .... Or is Putin also to blame for this and his pointing? I live in Transnistria and I, too, are not very happy with the fact that for 27 years Russia has not recognized us. But for the most part, we understand that it is difficult for Russia to pull all by itself .... I do not know who your curator is, but it seems to me that he is definitely not from Russia .........
                      1. Mordvin 3 14 March 2020 20: 16 New
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                        Quote: Chingachguk
                        I live in Transnistria

                        Well, that would be where we started. Sitting in a foreign country, talk about another.
                        I am from the Tula region.
                        Quote: Chingachguk
                        I don’t know who your curator is, but I think he’s definitely not from Russia .........

                        You need to be baptized when it seems. And Prilepin Zakharchenko was offered the post of Minister of Little Russia. Read his memoirs: "Some will not go to hell." By the way, is it not from Transnistria that the Vesti FM radio station is conducting propaganda in Ukraine? We did not have our own powerful ones, they all destroyed, I had to rent it from you. The 500 kilowatt transmitter is yours. Huh?
                      2. Chingachguk 14 March 2020 20: 28 New
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                        What are you doing? What memoirs, what radio stations? The last radio station was asked by Petrov and Boshirov when Skripaley went to the UK to poison her, and they dug it in the park ..... Don’t carry nonsense, dear !!!! Or are you Ukrainian? fool
                      3. Mordvin 3 14 March 2020 20: 43 New
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                        What memoirs, what radio stations?

                        Included misunderstanding? So I repeat. In 2014, Ukraine began broadcasting to Russia in the style of the Radio Liberty of the Cold War on medium waves, ours in return rented your transmitter and Vesti FM began broadcasting on medium waves to Ukraine.
                        Quote: Chingachguk
                        The last radio station was asked by Petrov and Boshirov when Skripaley went to the UK to hitch her there and chained her ..... Don’t talk rubbish, dear !!!!

                        Here you are just talking nonsense.
                        Quote: Chingachguk
                        Or are you Ukrainian?

                        Do you repeat several times that I have nothing to do with Ukraine?
                      4. Chingachguk 15 March 2020 02: 07 New
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                        And what about you there, in the "Tula region",
                        as you say, the broadcasting of FM news in Ukraine is so tormented? And the voice of America broadcast on the territory of Russia does not resent you? Do you advise your friends in Ukraine not to listen to FM news if this is such a terrible news channel in your opinion !!!! In extreme cases, you can turn off the radio and calmly continue to ride .....
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                        And the voice of America broadcast on the territory of Russia does not resent you?

                        All these voices stopped broadcasting a long time ago. So go by. America's voice has stalled in the middle of the noughties.
                      6. Chingachguk 15 March 2020 02: 18 New
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                        And broadcast FM news !!!! Horrible!!!!! Does this prevent high miserable Ukrainians from jumping high?
                      7. Chingachguk 15 March 2020 02: 19 New
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                        Let me ask you ---- and have you heard VOICES for a long time ???
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                        Let me ask you ---- and have you heard VOICES for a long time ???

                        Besides idiotic jokes, there’s nothing to say?
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                        And what else to answer your nonsense? laughing
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                        So you will still answer the question of how you, in the Tula region, are interrupted by the broadcast of FM news. in Ukraine? wink
                  2. Chingachguk 15 March 2020 02: 24 New
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                    Whose voice bothers you more, the voice of Satanovsky or Anechka Saffron? And tonight, Saffron was on the air with Ukrainian political scientist Vasil Vakarov .... So what? laughing
          2. Chingachguk 14 March 2020 20: 35 New
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            Radio operator Kat, from yours? laughing What kind of grass do you sprinkle Tula gingerbread on? wink drinks
          3. Mordvin 3 14 March 2020 20: 50 New
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            What kind of grass do you sprinkle Tula gingerbread on?

            Tula gingerbreads are glazed over and not sprinkled with herbs. hi A week ago, with a filling of "boiled condensed milk" bought. laughing
          4. Chingachguk 15 March 2020 02: 14 New
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            It’s what you think that it was the filling of “boiled condensed milk” ...... You are still flattering if you are worried about broadcasting FM news. in Ukraine...... laughing
          5. Mordvin 3 15 March 2020 02: 23 New
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            It still flattens you if you care about broadcasting FM news. in Ukraine......

            I am worried about the collapse of our broadcasting in our country. At our place, the Ministry of Emergencies began to warn about emergency situations with church ringing. And on the radio solid China mutters about its achievements. Our radio stations are almost nonexistent.
            Kaliningrad Oblast became the first in the NWFD, where the Ministry of Emergencies and the Orthodox Diocese agreed to warn the population about emergency situations with a church alarm

            https://rg.ru/2014/03/03/reg-szfo/bell-anons.html
          6. Chingachguk 15 March 2020 02: 27 New
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            Hahahahahah !!!!!! So what's wrong with the FM news? What are you so worried about our Transnistrian repeater ????? laughing
          7. Mordvin 3 15 March 2020 02: 32 New
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            Hahahahahah !!!!!!

            You decided to piss me off, Indian? Do not contact me again, I will not answer.
          8. Chingachguk 15 March 2020 02: 36 New
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            Well, thank God ... And then you have to go down to your level .... Consult a doctor if you continue to pester you in the Tula region, the voices of FM news. in Ukraine ... All the best to you. hi
  • Kronos 14 March 2020 16: 48 New
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    The right people are his teacher Yeltsin and friend Sobchak, for whom he worked by the way. There is a photo. How does he drag a suitcase behind Sobchak? It’s ridiculous to talk about sovereignty when the economy directly depends on oil and any decisions of foreign courts are implemented
    1. Chingachguk 14 March 2020 19: 40 New
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      I perfectly understand your desire to destroy Russia ...... Your examples are stupid .... Your Yeltsin, drunk! It’s useless to argue with that! Sobchak has been gone for a long time, and his daughter should not be allowed close to leading positions; she will surrender Russia to mattresses faster than Zelensky. I have nothing to argue with you. You apparently have a task to brainwash people here. But here are the arguments and examples you have cheap, There will be a vote then and see how people think. Thank God stupid people in Russia are much less than in dill and what is happening today in the world and near Russia shows who is leading the right policy.
      1. Kronos 14 March 2020 19: 41 New
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        I am not a supporter of Yeltsin but a communist against any bourgeoisie
      2. Chingachguk 14 March 2020 20: 16 New
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        wink I wish you good luck in your field ......
  • Grits 14 March 2020 11: 22 New
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    Quote: Chingachguk
    They mock in general how they want to people, and people, apparently, it is quite satisfied.

    Odessa also showed that there is no pro-Russian majority there. That Odessa is a city no longer a city of heroes, but a city of Jewish merchants and clowns. What then to say about Kharkov or Zaporozhye. Even in the midst of the “Russian Spring”, when the Russians and Russian-speakers could do something, their Natsiks stupidly rolled into the asphalt. Blotted out like the last suckers. The rest surrendered at the mercy of the winner and are afraid of croaking.
    Only the Donbass turned out to be solid, rallied, took up arms and showed in reality what a Russian person is, and not squinting under them.
    1. Chingachguk 14 March 2020 15: 18 New
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      At the expense of Odessa, it’s not so simple ..... I visit Odessa several times a month, on business. To Odessa from our city 80 km. People spit when they talk about power, but they can’t raise their heads, the regime grazes everyone tightly. Nationalists are abarzels, and people have families, children. The state will not feed them if something happens to you .... People say that they are ready for the development of the military, but they need a boost and support from Russia. Russia has no border with Odessa as with the Donbass, therefore everything is much more complicated. But in general, I also think that the city is a million people, and the city is a hero, surrendered without a fight ......
      1. Grits 15 March 2020 04: 38 New
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        People spit when they talk about power, but they can’t raise their heads, the regime grazes everyone tightly. Nationalists are abarzels, and people have families, children. The state will not feed them if something happens to you ....

        This is exactly what I was talking about. During the Second World War there were underground, partisan detachments. And this is in conditions much more terrible. But people opposed the invaders. I don’t think it’s more difficult now than during the war. They simply don’t have the courage to go further than a whisper in the kitchen - it’s not for nothing that they are called hatskrayniki.
        1. Chingachguk 15 March 2020 09: 37 New
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          So they still can’t figure it out among themselves! One another can pass the SBU like glass containers! That's why they silently smile at each other, holding an ax behind their back ...
  • Tuzik 15 March 2020 01: 05 New
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    Quote: Chingachguk
    Everything is strange like that with the people of Ukraine. Only Russophobes rallied tightly and “have” a large part of the Ukrainian population, and those, in turn, are silent

    I noticed the Dnieper in my Russian-speaking city (Petrovsky was crossed out), after the annexation of Crimea and the hostilities in the Donbas, there were more Russophiles among the Russophobes. It could not even be imagined before. I hope the leaders of our countries have enough mind in the future to make peace.
  • arsenide 14 March 2020 10: 59 New
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    according to Ukrainian laws this cannot be done, since there are foreign troops

    So take them out - someone home, someone in the barracks ...
  • rotmistr60 14 March 2020 11: 02 New
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    ... and this is normal for a democratic country.
    Himself is not funny. Ukraine - a democratic country is the shortest joke. A country where a ball is ruled by less than a third of militant fascist nationalists, a country at war with its peoples, a country where people with other views, if not killed, beaten and imprisoned, dare to call themselves democratic? Ducks and no other way.
  • Lord of the Sith 14 March 2020 11: 33 New
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    Kiev: No LDNR should be considered as a party to negotiations


    Well, go to the corner, wait there, think about your behavior. And time goes on, it works against you, and the Republics are being built.
    Oh, and the stench from the west will be when our Republics recognize))
    1. Kronos 14 March 2020 12: 41 New
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      This has been heard for 6 years now, and as there is no recognition of no end to the war, no improvement in the situation in LDNR can be expected.
      1. Lord of the Sith 14 March 2020 14: 08 New
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        About improving the situation, we seem to know better))
        But there is no longer a war in fact, so that the Sumerians would not stink in their media.
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          There is no war? Shelling, the death of people and soldiers of the DPR, the killing of all prominent commanders including Zakharchenko is this improvement?
          1. Lord of the Sith 14 March 2020 14: 17 New
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            Are India and Pakistan, for example, at war? And there are territorial claims to each other, and they shoot at the border almost every day.
            Nagorno-Karabakh. You can go on for a long time, all over the world.

            Are the Yankees at war with Iran? No. Like the Jews. But the shooting continues, as do the casualties on all sides.

            You would study the term “war” and what it is, and how it differs from conflicts on the demarcation line.

            By the way, the killings of commanders in the LPR and DPR are state terrorism.
            1. Kronos 14 March 2020 14: 23 New
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              In general, Iran and Syria are in a state of formal war with Israel. In Nagorno-Karabakh, it is precisely that border conflicts are by the way, which almost not so long ago did not pass into a new war. And in the DPR, it is the war that continues the shelling every day, people also die every day. infrastructure is collapsing. This is called a sluggish current positional war.
              1. Lord of the Sith 14 March 2020 14: 30 New
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                But in the LPR then there is no war, judging by your words or what?

                But don’t call it, it’s nothing more than a sluggish srach. Have you ever been to the Donbass, saw what is happening there? Or have you seen enough videos on the internet?

                By the way, all the infrastructure that could be destroyed was destroyed in 14-15 and has already been partially rebuilt.
                1. Kronos 14 March 2020 14: 31 New
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                  I live there in Donetsk
                  1. Lord of the Sith 14 March 2020 14: 31 New
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                    In which Donetsk, Russian?))
                    1. Kronos 14 March 2020 14: 32 New
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                      No in the DNI which
                      1. Lord of the Sith 14 March 2020 14: 32 New
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                        So what? Where did you fight, what did you see, with whom did you know, where was he?
                        Title, position?
                      2. Kronos 14 March 2020 14: 35 New
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                        A civilian has not fought anywhere, but has been to all front lines, and now hedgehogs regularly visit relatives in Ukraine, and I see how there is no war when they regularly shoot
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                        Here you are, dear))
                        SBU not recruited? Maybe it was you who directed the ukroterrorists at our commanders?
                        What side of the front line were, and what did they sniff out? Speak, do not be shy, all are here.
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                  In which division of the SBU are you working?
  • Sergey-8848 14 March 2020 12: 31 New
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    Gradually, attempts to jam a soft hat are seen. Do not sleep!
  • Alexander Barinov 14 March 2020 12: 56 New
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    This rottenness on the part of Ukraine * will continue as long as VV Putin considers and calls them * fraternal folk for the Russians.
  • Operator 14 March 2020 13: 28 New
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    Who is interested in the opinion of Kiev, which will die out in a month from the coronavirus brought by the zarobitans from Europe? bully
  • iouris 14 March 2020 13: 54 New
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    Clear. “Minsk and Norman format” is a political mistake. "All LDNR" should be integrated into the Russian Federation.
  • Vladimir Mashkov 14 March 2020 14: 59 New
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    The old song for suckers continues with new singers!
  • Alex Nevs 14 March 2020 15: 06 New
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    Well, let them resume negotiations with the penguins of Antarctica.! Perhaps it will grow together.
  • cat Rusich 14 March 2020 17: 55 New
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    Donbass is simply obliged to decide whether to return to its homeland (Russia) or liberate the occupied land of Novorossia from the Nazis, and further build the state of Novorossia. To begin with, the DPR and LPR are obliged to unite into one whole - the Donbass. The world will be - after the Victory!
    1. Kronos 14 March 2020 19: 43 New
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      Firstly, Russia makes decisions for which they put the governed, secondly, it’s corny there are no forces without Russia to free the territories, but it doesn’t need it
      1. cat Rusich 14 March 2020 22: 46 New
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        For starters, over the past 5 years, starting in 2015, the DPR and LPR could unite into one state entity - to determine the name by popular vote. And on behalf of the united people of Donbass to conduct any relations with Kiev.
        1. Mordvin 3 14 March 2020 23: 09 New
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          To begin with, over the past 5 years, starting in 2015, the DPR and LPR could unite into one state entity

          Well, so they announced Malorosii three years ago with the capital in Donetsk.
          Representatives of the DNR, LC and 19 regions of Ukraine today announced the creation of the state of Little Russia. The constitutional act of the new state was read at the meeting of delegates in Donetsk by the Acting Deputy Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the DPR Alexander Timofeev.
          We, the representatives of the former regions of "Ukraine" (with the exception of the Crimea) declare the establishment of a new state, which is the successor of "Ukraine". We agree that the new state will be called Little Russia, since the name Ukraine itself has discredited itself
          - states in the constitutional act.

          https://topwar.ru/120751-zaharchenko-obyavil-o-sozdanii-gosudarstva-malorossiya.html
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    The train has long gone. And people run around with suitcases in the hope that the driver will return the train. The main mistakes are to disagree with everything that is written there in Minsky and move on. And then it’s very difficult there even if the elections take place how the border crossing will be carried out. No way. Donbass is simply a guarantee of Ukraine’s non-entry into NATO. And if the border returns. They will immediately sign the papers as soon as with Montenegro or Macedonia. I think they have been gathering dust for a long time.
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    But kuev in general cannot be considered as a subject of international law!
    Swarniah does not fit into any of the country's concepts