In India, they announced a change in the strategy of a possible war on two fronts - with China and Pakistan


Turkish drone "Bayraktar"



The Eurasian Times has published columnist Nitin Tiku reporting India’s decision to change its strategy for waging a possible war on two fronts - against Pakistan and China. In the article, the author refers to Major General of the Indian Army M. Naravane, who announced the change in the general concept and military strategy for such a confrontation.

From the article:

Keeping in mind the impending threats, the Indian army initiated the process of acquiring at least 100 portable drones, which will play a decisive role in the destruction of enemy targets near the border. The Loiter drone system should provide guaranteed use in Indian terrain and climatic conditions. There must be warheads to destroy manpower and lightly armored targets.

We are talking about the so-called "wandering" ammunition or kamikaze drones.

It is proposed to take into account the Turkish experience of using drones in Syria. At the same time, there was previously no evidence that the Turks in Idlib used kamikaze UAVs.

From the material of Nitin Chiku:

Such drones are much more profitable to acquire and operate than fighter jets or American attack drones. Two Turkish UAV systems, Bayraktar-TB and Anka-S, are successfully operating in Syria. Bayraktar has also been widely used in the civil war in Libya, where Turkey also intervenes and proves its skills with drone technology. There are currently no signs of a deal between Turkey and Pakistan, but experts predict that Bayraktar could be a potential prospect for Pakistan.

The material reports that China is building up a drone fleet, which also equips Pakistan with various types of UAVs.

From the material:

It was previously reported that Islamabad will import 48 Wing Loong IIs air drones from China. Representatives of the Pakistani Air Force said the manufacturer of unmanned aerial vehicles - Chinese aviation Chengdu Industrial Group - will collaborate in the domestic production of unmanned aerial vehicles with Pakistan's Kamra aviation complex, a state-supported air force contractor.

The author says that drones become the most important weapons XXI century:

In Syria, they successfully compete with Russian-made air defense systems.
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  1. certero 14 March 2020 07: 30 New
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    Something I can’t believe that in the China vs India collision, drones can be used just like when you bomb babaev. Just because the electronic warfare system in both countries is powerful enough, and the channel for controlling the drone needs a wide
    1. Mitroha 14 March 2020 07: 37 New
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      Yes, in China and India, such a population with a rather small length of the common border that you can throw without looking “stupid” ammunition (cheap) and you will inflict damage anyway.
      But in general, I would not want such a war / conflict to take place. It’s painfully frostbitten that those that these owners of nuclear weapons
      1. Imperial Technocrat 14 March 2020 17: 18 New
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        In reality, 400-450 million people live in China, and 215-300 million in India. Which, however, is certainly a lot
        1. Shurik70 14 March 2020 20: 50 New
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          China would not refuse to take back some more km of property there. Indian desert. India does not use, China needs. And China is unceremonious and strong enough to take it without asking.
          According to the mind, India should start negotiations on land exchange, but here Indian ambitions are in the way.
          And yes. Neither China nor India needs conflict.
          1. Imperial Technocrat 15 March 2020 15: 53 New
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            The clan governing China is strong in domestic politics / economy, but not so much in foreign. Also, what does “pick up” mean? India is not so radically weaker + there are nuclear weapons
            1. Shurik70 15 March 2020 16: 26 New
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              China has ALREADY taken away part of the desert, built a road there, a military base. Even under Khrushchev. And India only after a few years found out about it.
              Now China is lining the road with oases. He is working on turning the desert into an agricultural region. Successfully working through.
    2. Camille 14 March 2020 09: 53 New
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      REB systems can also be effectively used against combat aircraft. So it is better to lose 10 UAVs than one aircraft with pilots.
      1. svp67 14 March 2020 10: 38 New
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        Quote: Camille
        So it’s better to lose 10 UAVs than one plane with pilots.

        Not a fact, after losing control with a UAV control gear, it’s useless, and a manned aircraft is able to complete the task
        1. Camille 14 March 2020 14: 59 New
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          For some UAVs, the KP is 200-300 km from the theater of operations .... And what do you think combat aircraft can fly without support from the ground? Do you think the aircraft of the WWII times were confused with modern ones ... I’m better to lose 10 at least 20 UAVs than one pilot with an airplane.
          1. svp67 14 March 2020 15: 04 New
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            Quote: Camille
            And what do you think combat aircraft can fly without support from the ground?

            What do you think is “ground support”? Support for missiles, guns and tanks? Or do you want to say: "To be controlled from the ground?" And what do you think an advanced aircraft manufacturer can do this?
            And can give target designation from the ground "infantry, tanks and artillery" even if the connection is lost?
            Quote: Camille
            I repeat, it is better to lose 10 at least 20 UAVs than one pilot with an airplane.

            But this is under the condition that UAVs will be able to carry out the fire mission, to support the troops. Unfortunately, the modern development of unmanned vehicles does not allow for many maneuvers that can be carried out by manned vehicles. And most importantly, the pilot, in a difficult situation with a loss of communication, can make a decision on his own, while UAVs cannot do this
            1. Camille 14 March 2020 16: 30 New
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              That’s what you think, but in real life everything has not been what you think for a long time. Firstly, ground support is not what you wrote there. Have you ever been to airfields? Have you seen ground services that provide combat aircraft flight? Do you think that Did the pilot get on a plane and fly? Everything is controlled from the ground: from airspace control to target designation. Modern UAVs are more autonomous than your vaunted manned aircraft.
            2. Camille 14 March 2020 16: 46 New
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              For example, UAVs can return to base automatically, that is, without operator control. ... future aviation for UAVs, not a spell 6th generation is unmanned
              1. svp67 14 March 2020 17: 02 New
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                Quote: Camille
                For example, UAVs can return to base automatically, that is, without operator control. ... future aviation for UAVs, not a spell 6th generation is unmanned

                The fact that they can return is the same conditionally, as long as there is a positioning that can be suppressed and interrupted. The pilot in this case is more reliable.
                And I myself am a fan of unmanned vehicles, but it’s far from perfect, while
    3. TermNachTer 14 March 2020 10: 48 New
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      I am tormented by vague doubts that 100 ammunition can cause significant damage to the PRC army, even if there is no air defense at all. Engines on the “bairaktara” are Zaporozhye - “Motor Sich”. But neither Buddha nor Allah will say how much the plant has to live. By the end of March, the Antimonopoly Committee is due to sentence. The Washington Reich Chancellery has already decided everything.
      1. Oquzyurd 14 March 2020 13: 38 New
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        Motor Sich sent only 2 engines for the Akıncı UAV, which are still being tested in flight mode. Bayraktara has Turkish engines and are not related to Motor Sich
        1. TermNachTer 14 March 2020 14: 16 New
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          Canadian engines stood on it, but after the Turks were stuck with mattresses, deliveries of engines were cut off. The Turks switched to Motorsky.
          1. Oquzyurd 14 March 2020 15: 37 New
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            The Turks themselves produce an engine for the UAV. The video shows the next batch of PD-170 engines. They are now used on the Anka and will be used on the Bayraktar “Akındzha” modifications (Akındzha will have 3 modifications)). The engine from “Motor Sich” will be used only in one of the modifications. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCu70Of3y2Y
    4. SSR
      SSR 14 March 2020 13: 29 New
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      Quote: certero
      Just because the electronic warfare system in both countries is powerful enough, and you need a wide channel to control the drone

      It’s just that the Indians are taking “successful” combat experience in the absence of air defense, in the presence of electronic warfare, small drones will sprinkle “peas” from a ram. With large drones, fighting electronic warfare can be more difficult, but it can acquire its own air defense.
      This is me so much in the lyrics, the success of the Turks was from surprise, after the appearance of air defense forces, drones decreased.
  2. IGOR GORDEEV 14 March 2020 07: 31 New
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    In Syria, they successfully compete with Russian-made air defense systems.

    Well, let them continue to think so. Blessed are the believers ...
    1. guerrilla 14 March 2020 08: 21 New
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      Quote: IGOR GORDEEV
      Well, let them continue to think so. Blessed are the believers ...

      I agree that the bases of Khmeimim and Tartus (even from the sea) are checked for strength almost every week by drones - with no chance of success.
      Although there are questions to the Shell C1, I hope the modernization will close them. Recently, at the VO on the problems and PR of Shell, there was an article. From what is known for sure - the guns don’t take small drones - only missiles.
    2. Sky strike fighter 14 March 2020 10: 34 New
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      In Syria, they successfully compete with Russian-made air defense systems.

      Well, if you count 20 downed drones (from 11,5 to 30 million dollars each) against 2 damaged Armor successful competition.
      1. svp67 14 March 2020 10: 40 New
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        Quote: Sky Strike fighter
        Well, if you count 20 downed drones (from 11,5 to 30 million dollars each) against 2 damaged Armor successful competition.

        And at least one "Thor" ... and yet the UAVs have already shown their high efficiency on the battlefield
      2. My doctor 14 March 2020 13: 09 New
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        Quote: Sky Strike fighter
        Well, if you count 20 downed drones (from 11,5 to 30 million dollars each) against 2 damaged Armor successful competition.

        Why 20 UAVs, not 120 pcs? Why so modest?
        If there is a cost of an UAV, then there should be a cost of a ZRPK. And why is this comparison?
        Can it be more correct to compare all the damage from UAV attacks with their cost?
        1. Sky strike fighter 14 March 2020 15: 09 New
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          Why 20 UAVs, not 120 pcs?

          Because 20 UAVs were shot down.
          If there is a cost of an UAV, then there should be a cost of a ZRPK. And why is this comparison?
          Can it be more correct to compare all the damage from UAV attacks with their cost?

          You don’t need to treat us here. And if you want to compare the damage, then calculate the cost of 20 UAVs shot down, each costing from 11,5 million dollars to 30 million dollars. Yes and MAM-L is just a truncated Turkish ATGM.
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  5. Sniper 14 March 2020 07: 34 New
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    what yesterday was fantastic .. today is already a reality. unmanned aircraft, unmanned tanks, ships, etc. We are waiting on the battlefield for robotic soldiers with artificial intelligence.
  6. bessmertniy 14 March 2020 07: 40 New
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    Too optimistic Indians regarding drones. Suffice it to recall that today China has its own magnificent collection of drones, and is likely to be able to crush the Indian resistance with them. In order to win on two fronts of India, in addition to kamikaze drones, much more is needed.
  7. Mouse 14 March 2020 07: 40 New
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    The kid attached a camera to Carlson ... And now the Kid has his own drone ... laughing
    1. rich 14 March 2020 07: 46 New
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      if he attached a Swedish-made camera to him, then this will be the first wink exclusively Swedish jam drone wink
      1. Mouse 14 March 2020 07: 48 New
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        Just serve the jam .... wink
  8. Thrifty 14 March 2020 07: 43 New
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    Well, the Indians went a little too far, to the "successful competition" of Turkish drones with air defense systems oh how far! Simply, the lack of the same Torah was in the hands of the Turks that they were able at one time to bomb the positions of the Syrian army with impunity.
  9. syndicalist 14 March 2020 08: 01 New
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    Simple drones, controlled from the outside, this is yesterday. Actual are absolutely autonomous, independently making all decisions.
    1. certero 17 March 2020 11: 05 New
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      Are. But where to get them yet?
      1. syndicalist 17 March 2020 12: 35 New
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        At least not in the market to buy. On the market you can only buy weapons for the past war
  10. yriuv62 14 March 2020 08: 05 New
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    India is looking for a magic miracle weapon, but this does not happen. You need to tediously and for a long time to develop and teach your army, and not engage in witchcraft. There is always a reaction to every action.
    1. Simara 14 March 2020 08: 30 New
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      Given their logic of thinking and Indian militants, they will soon come to the necessity of creating 200 megaton-class hydrogen warheads. 50 in Pakistan and 150 in China, the lack of accuracy will be compensated for as before)
  11. Mountain shooter 14 March 2020 08: 29 New
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    Judging by the latest data - as soon as they pulled up a serious air defense, the Drones in Turkey ran out. But the “Gypsies" perceive information very selectively ... Just what I WANT AND LIKE ... Well, why is there any negativity? He doesn’t sing or dance under it ...
  12. Sergey Olegovich 14 March 2020 08: 51 New
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    In India, they announced a change in the strategy of a possible war on two fronts - with China and Pakistan

    There have already been examples of war on two fronts in history. Hindus could talk with the Germans on this subject. The Germans explained to them the utopianism of the war on two fronts.
    We are talking about the so-called "wandering" ammunition or kamikaze drones.

    Hindus found a miracle weapon? In a possible war of India on two fronts, drones will not help them.
  13. 2Albert 14 March 2020 08: 56 New
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    In Syria and Libya there were almost perfect weather conditions for UAVs - no clouds and wind. Despite the fact that neither SAA and LNA do not use smoke curtains in principle, this ensured the success of the application. In other weather conditions, which the US has long encountered in Afghanistan, by the way, UAVs are not effective and vulnerable, or heavy UAVs are required that cost significantly more than a strike aircraft.
  14. Chaldon48 14 March 2020 10: 09 New
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    India needs to organize the production of its drones on the purchased you will not go far.
  15. Kapkan 14 March 2020 10: 42 New
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    The author says that drones become the most important weapon of the XXI century:
    In Syria, they successfully compete with Russian-made air defense systems.


    Seriously? After all, the S-300 and S-400 have not even begun work on drones.
    "successfully"... lol
  16. rotmistr60 14 March 2020 10: 55 New
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    In India, they announced a change in the strategy of a possible war on two fronts - with China and Pakistan
    Is Senka a hat? For decades, they have been butt-off with Pakistan and to no purpose, so they also swung at China. Regarding drones that you really need to have, but
    In Syria, they successfully compete with Russian-made air defense systems
    And about 20 were shot down. They succumbed to Erdogan’s propaganda and, apparently, they seriously believed in the destruction of 7 “Shells”, although it has already been proved that this is a regular military propaganda fake.
    1. Sky strike fighter 14 March 2020 11: 03 New
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      Yes, here they didn’t even believe in it. Here, the matter is in the military-political vector of India, and it is pro-Western. Against China and Pakistan. That is, they have one goal with the West, they have the same interests, and they denote this by such statements.
  17. Sova 14 March 2020 11: 17 New
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    Quote: Mouse
    The kid attached a camera to Carlson ... And now the Kid has his own drone ... laughing

    Such a drone can only land a jam bank laughing
  18. ZVS
    ZVS 14 March 2020 12: 13 New
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    Who are the Indians going to fight with? They will be conquered by China in a week.
    1. awg75 14 March 2020 12: 26 New
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      a day or two to destroy strategic facilities, and then India will simply begin to starve to death. something like this.
  19. awg75 14 March 2020 12: 24 New
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    any technique in the hands of a savage is just a pile of scrap metal. Russian modern air defense equipment in direct hands, and even more so for graduates of our air defense universities, will not leave chances for drones. believe me.
  20. Operator 14 March 2020 13: 29 New
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    What is the situation with coronavirus in India and Pakistan?
  21. Imperial Technocrat 14 March 2020 17: 17 New
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    Turkish systems of unmanned aerial vehicles, Bayraktar-TB and Anka-S, successfully operate in Syria

    Yes, it’s so successful that in just a few days, against the not very strong air defense of Syria, the Turks lost 80% of Anka-S drones and a bunch of lighter ones laughing