“Tank boat” selected to protect Indonesian waters

The Defense Ministry of Indonesia signed a contract on March 11, providing for the development of the product, which received the designation "tank boat ”(tank boat). The corresponding work should be carried out by the local company PT Pindad, whose product ultimately fell to the choice of the military, looking for ways to protect state water.

It is expected that immediately after the completion of R&D, the boat should go into production with subsequent delivery to the country's armed forces “so that it can be immediately used to strengthen the defense potential of the Republic of Indonesia”. PT Pindad is also exploring its export options.

It is assumed that the boat-tank will be used during operations in marshy areas, on sea and river open spaces, on the coast. As the company points out, illegal fishing has become widespread in the territorial waters of the country, especially border waters. This applies to such locations as the Strait of Malacca, Sulawesi and Natun.

The tank boat should accommodate 5 crew members and 60 military personnel, have 6000 liters of fuel, operate at a minimum depth of 120 cm and reach a maximum speed of 40 knots. The armament will be represented by a 12,7 mm machine gun and a 30 mm RCWS gun.

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[bessmertniy]

A picture for information could decorate that row of trimaran, catamarans and other marans for tourists, which, in the early 1970s, was offered by the magazine "Young Technician" for enthusiastic homemade workers. As for the development itself, then, in my opinion, in our country there are developments of small-sized floating craft on air cushions. For some time, we used a similar boat to rescue amateur fishermen from crumbling ice. But then he disappeared somewhere. I think that the idea of ​​a "tank boat" is not new for us, and if necessary, we can also set up such production, oriented not only to our needs, but also to export. Again, they can be different. For 65 people, taking into account the crew, this is apparently the landing version, and the patrol version can be a small vehicle for several people with light and effective weapons.

[smile]

For us, the idea of ​​a tank boat is definitely not new - in the thirties armored boats of the L-series were developed.
The last option is the L-5.
I saw the photos, but I can’t say that this is exactly a prototype with armor, and not a mock-up of a product from simple steel. But he moved and was able to open fire - for sure.
There are different versions - but the fact is that several armed pieces of iron still plowed the open spaces of the Marquise puddle.
I read it, but I'm not sure if it is true that the products, although they did not go into the series, but participated in the database and died.
But one more fact is that later, in the 50-60s, hovercraft were presented as an invention of the British .... and they think that the British were the first to invent this thing. :)))
By the way, our border service in the Crimea, it seems, had previously ordered several such boats under the A-25PS index - I don’t know the details, but they also contain an infantry platoon and hovercraft. As I understand it, for hikes in the floodplains near the border with Ukraine.

[maidan.izrailovich]

smile (Vladimir)
..... series armored boats - L.
The last option is the L-5.

There was a submarine L-5.

L-5 "Chartist" - Soviet diesel-electric mine-torpedo submarine of the Second World War, the fifth ship of the series II type "Leninets".

But neither Yandex nor Google knows about the L-5 capter.

[HELIALEKS]

http://zonwar.ru/news5/news_922_Kater_L-5.html

[Sergey S.]

Quote: maidan.izrailovich

But neither Yandex nor Google knows about the L-5 capter

This is a boat of Professor V.I. Levkova.
A boat on a kind of air cushion.
Of course, he was not armored.
It was developed and tested before the war.

[knn54]

Thank you, Vladimir. I immediately remembered one of the favorite films of the youth "Where 0-42" (film studio named after Dovzhenko, 1969). The film is based on real events. In my opinion, five monitors and 22 boats of the Danube flotilla held back the royal army of "Greater Romania" for almost a month.
By the way, there are plenty of pirates in those parts. So there will be enough work for "tank boats".

[cost]

Correct small inaccuracies of the performance characteristics in the article
Designed by RT Lundin Industry Invest "tank-armored boat" X18 Tank Boat (also referred to as FSV - Fire Support Vessel) is an all-composite catamaran boat 18 m long and 6,6 m wide, designed for operations on rivers and in the coastal zone of the seas. The draft of the boat must not exceed 0.9 m. The boat must have two MAN diesel engines with a power of 1200 hp each. with two water cannons and develop a maximum speed of up to 40 knots. A fuel reserve of 6000 liters should provide a cruising range of 350 miles at a speed of 30 knots and up to 900 miles at an economic speed of 9 knots. The main armament of the boat includes a tower made of aluminum armor of the Belgian company CMI Defense (apparently Cockerill CT-CV 105HP licensed by PT Pindad) with a 105-mm tank cannon and a coaxial 7,62-mm machine gun; a remotely controlled turret is additionally placed on the tower with a 12,7 mm machine gun. The Swedish group Saab AB is responsible for the complex of weapons and electronic means of the boat. The crew of the boat is six people, plus accommodation is possible 20 paratroopers.

Of the greatest interest is the material of the X18 boat hull. According to John Lundin, the boat should be made entirely of some newer composite material, which is supposedly "10 times stronger than steel, but also 10 times lighter than steel." This material will provide the boat with ballistic bulletproof protection. At the same time, this composite is non-combustible, which will exclude the possibility of repeating the history with the Klewang trimaran.
It is worth noting that during the already mentioned press tour, John Landin also mentioned that he received an order for the X18 Tank Boat from the Russian Federation. "We are happy to sell this project in Russia," Landin said. According to Landin, in addition to supplies to the armed forces and law enforcement agencies of Indonesia, previously 15 boats of the X18 Tank Boat project are being prepared for export to different countries by his company.

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Images from the presentation of the project X18 Tank Boat

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Indonesian graphics with project presentation

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And project working drawings

I apologize for so many comments, but the forum does not allow you to insert more than 5 photos, and so it’s very interesting

[petrol cutter]

This is already much more informative. Thanks.
What remains is Voros - these are real ships or demo models.
After all, there is a great danger that when shooting from guns of this caliber, the superstructure can easily be torn off from the body itself.
I don’t know what kind of super composites they have there ... But I wouldn’t really count on them. Then AmG tears what the light stands on ...
Well it is in theory, everything is beautiful. In practice, a bunch of unexpected surprises comes out.

[Antiliberast]

The draft of the boat should not exceed 0.9 m. The boat should have two MAN diesel engines with a capacity of 1200 hp. with two water cannons and develop a maximum speed of up to 40 knots.

Maybe I’ll say nonsense, but nevertheless, I had to repair jet skis more than once, I saw almost seamed edges of the screws many times, and the PTFE sealing sleeve was wiped almost, and often to the metal, while the hydric lost half of its possible speed. The fact is that it sucks in small objects from a meter and a half depth, small pebbles, iron fintiplushki, etc., it also had to pick out even a barbed wire three meters long, it was something. But with the power of two diesel engines and with a herd of horses, I feel ohhh and they will huddle, the "grid" in the form of four, five ribs at a distance of 3-4 cm of a hydrica did not save, but to work at a minimum depth of 120 cm and develop a maximum speed of ± 40 knots, so it seems to me that it will suck a medical jar to the bottom, and if there is clay and a lot of silt, I don’t know what it will push from, for me it’s the best option at such a depth with an air cushion, so let them buy from us.

[Hariton]

We survived, we face with Indonesia (((

[Nikolaevich I]

Polundra! The opportunity to "cheat" loomed on the horizon! Where are we, the artillery armored boats pushed into the far dusty corner?

It remains to "modernize" a little and suggest!

[Catfish]

Good morning, Vladimir!
You definitely noticed that. And these boats served long enough, back in 1968 on the Amur River, near Nizhneleninsky, I saw exactly the same boat, only without a turret with a DShK on the wheelhouse.

[orionvitt]

illegal fishing was widespread in the territorial waters of the country, especially border

Especially when you consider that Indonesia is almost continuous coastal waters. Coastline: 54 km Boats do not stock up.

[bessmertniy]

They and the people have about 273,5 million people. And there are many unemployed youth. There is someone to put on tank boats and send to guard the sea borders. And if we make a "hybrid version" that could be used both for military purposes and for coastal fisheries, this would be ideal for Indonesia.

[YOUR]

Well, it’s not such a boat if it is possible to place 60 w / sl. Those. The landing boat turned out. If we compare with what we had, then the capacity is probably more than a self-propelled self-propelled barge. Application in marshy areas with a minimum depth of 120 cm causes a skeptical smile.
Actually, the picture and assumptions haven’t gone so far and whether it will go further is unknown.
As an assumption, why such a tank boat with a fucking assault is needed. The fight against piracy and drugs, for illegal fishing, landing in 60 people is clearly excessive.
But this is their business.

[cost]

in the article is not accuracy, the possibility of placing not 60 paratroopers but 20

[Thrifty]

Is it like speed + _ 40 knots? What figure is the speed from then?

[Fedorov]

40 knots with 60 paratroopers, the author clearly "went over the maleho.

[Snail N9]

If this thing is not armored, then this is complete garbage. A 12,7 mm rifle from the bushes and a "tank boat" will be sour ....

[Ros 56]

The author imagines the speed plus or minus 40 knots, everything is clear with a plus, but somehow with a minus it’s not very?

[svp67]

I’m not mistaken, it’s like our MO wanted to buy it for testing?
In general, it is worth considering this "armored boat" as an amphibious transport boat when landing from a UDC or transports on an unprepared coast

[Souchastnik]

Of course, I am not a specialist in the field of the fleet, but judging by the photo, 6 crew members and 20 landing personnel are problematic to place on this boat. Unless, of course, they will be like in a minibus in the morning. But they still need to do something, shoot back there or something else. Explain who is special?

[Operator]

Fig goat bayan - a border boat in the presence of helicopters with SD (well, if only the border violators are not equipped with hovercraft)?

[petrol cutter]

Immediately visited a bunch of questions.
Why such a big name. How does it fit with a tank? And what does it have to do with tanks in principle?!.
As far as I see in the picture, the tank will be a catamaran. I have nothing against. And punt.
Will the tank be armored ?! Never. With a declared speed of forty knots ... It can only be made of aluminum alloys. All that can be done there from the reservation is to increase the thickness of the metal in the bow / partly side projection to anti-fragmentation. As done at the Zubr DKVP.
Which of the tank weapons do we have on board? 30 mm gun? ...
Further, based on the same picture, I categorically do not understand where sixty people would take people there, except on the aft deck (did you try to rush across the sea at a speed of eighty km / h on an open deck?!.) And six tons more solariums ...

[petrol cutter]

I justify my fears a little.
Metal (especially the beloved steel) has some plasticity. It can expand, expand, etc. One way or another, it can be given the necessary shape, given the necessary properties of fluidity and ductility. Aluminum is a much more fragile metal. He does not like strong bullying over himself. He begins to crack. Where it is not necessary at all.
Sudocomposite is not an elastic material at all. It was molded, so it will be. Therefore, there is no widespread use so far. We have at least. Under shock dynamic loads, it begins to crack. And this is not a buzz.
This material does not have flexibility.

[Eug]

If it is to be done for Russia, then on a VP like Bora-Samum with two 57mm. gun mounts and increased cruising range "ship-like".