Named the main "victims" of a sharp drop in oil prices

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First estimates appeared about countries whose economies are under the greatest blow due to a sharp drop in oil prices. Analytical material on this issue was published in CNBC with reference to representatives of consulting agencies.

The material notes that among the main losers and the “victims” in this case are those economies that are either maximally linked to oil exports or have growing volumes of shale oil and gas production.



From the material:

Among the main losers are the United States of America. With oil prices at $ 30 per barrel, virtually the entire US shale industry is moving out of the margin.

Among the losers are some countries included in OPEC. This is Algeria, Nigeria, Iraq. The economies of these countries are more dependent on the volume of production and export of “black gold”.

Returning to the US, it should be noted that the trading was marked by a record collapse in 33 years. The Dow Jones Index lost almost 10 percent. NASDAQ, S&P 10 lost up to 500%. This drop was attributed to the absence in the speech of the US President that the administration would in any way try to support the American economy in the crisis conditions.

There is generally a dilemma in this regard in the USA. Some experts consider Trump's position to be correct, since any statement to support the economy will actually mean government intervention in it, which is an unacceptable factor for a liberal economic system.
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  1. +10
    13 March 2020 06: 21
    Chu. This is just the beginning. The main victims will be determined later. Strongly then. And I really want to make a mistake, but surrenders, including Russia will certainly be among them. And to be more precise, the people of Russia (those who are not Deripaska and not sechiny with millers).
    1. -1
      13 March 2020 06: 24
      Among the main losers are the United States of America.
      And this is no longer funny! Apparently Russia is very rich, especially pensioners ....
      1. +11
        13 March 2020 07: 10
        Weekly Dow Jones schedule. I have never seen this: https://gyazo.com/2f580c3aae53d095fd4299ada940c763
        The collapse of the US stock market was predicted for a long time, because for a long time there was a reduction in industrial production, a reduction in electricity consumption and a decrease in freight traffic. All the indirect signs of the stagnation of the American economy were evident, there was nothing surprising in what was happening. All related things like bloating a panic on the topic of coronavirus or hysteria about oil prices are exclusively related things that are a consequence and not a cause. The Fed is trying to fill the crisis with money, this money goes to large commercial banks, banks lend to corporations. Corporations redeem their own shares with this money, trying to increase their value. When this mechanism literally crashed for a couple of days, February 27, then there was not enough money, and the collapse just happened on the 28th. All recent growth has been exclusively due to the printing press. Conditionally, because this money is not in paper form, but in the form of digits. The printing press is the only source of the so-called growth of the American economy, it is such a manifestation of the specific form of the “Dutch disease”. The only thing that is now profitable to do in the States is to print money. We should expect hyperinflation for the dollar, a huge number of bankruptcies, a sharp increase in unemployment, layoffs and other negative consequences.
        1. +12
          13 March 2020 07: 50
          Everything is much simpler there. Exchanges in order not to spoil the "average temperature in the hospital" at the first sign immediately stop trading. No trades - no negative indicators. Speculators smoke - the economy is supposedly stable.
          1. +28
            13 March 2020 07: 53
            This method no longer works, they stop every day and every new day repeats. Here is an interesting opinion was expressed by the head of the Ministry of Finance Matrasia Mnuchin: "The consequences of the new coronavirus for the United States economy do not look like a financial crisis." Obviously, since it is impossible to fill the problem with printing money, as they used to. And the virus cannot be banned from entering the United States, its assets cannot be frozen, sanctions cannot be imposed on the virus, it cannot be bombed, it cannot be kidnapped and thrown into Guantanamo. Deadlock situation.
            In short, one cannot instill in him democratic values)laughing
            1. +9
              13 March 2020 08: 04
              That is, the one who "dropped the test tube" with the virus did it either according to a long-playing plan, or simply did not calculate that he would have to run back along the rake scattered for others?
              1. +11
                13 March 2020 08: 13
                We don’t know this for sure)) But I think NOBODY controls the current situation, except the Heavenly Office.
                In Omerig, this virus will be cooler than in China. The Ohio state announced 100 thousand infected with coronavirus in the state: https://ria.ru/20200313/1568524067.html
                "USA cancels communication with Europe". In the United States, the disease will become monstrous due to the structure of their society and the state of medicine. Try to make blacks and Latinos self-isolate for a couple of weeks, with the whole family, yeah. Plus an army of millions of homeless people on the streets and the lack of centralized medicine. It will be scary. They will bring in the army, all homeless people will be exiled to filtration camps, migrants will be expelled from the country in wagons, and in a harsh manner. Now all of the US democracy will come out in its best traditions. It will be as they like to show in their TV series or as they did with hundreds of thousands of Japanese before the war. There will again be benches on which blacks can sit, and on which they cannot.
                1. +2
                  13 March 2020 09: 04
                  More than 100 Ohio residents MAY be infected with coronavirus, says Amy Acton, head of the local health department.
                  1. +2
                    13 March 2020 09: 15
                    Well, this is close to the truth, given their terrible medicine and the cost of the $ 3000 coronovirus test, even not everyone has insurance coverage. And 20 million American homeless people and tens of millions of migrants do not even have insurance than a hilarious nursery of infection, just as in China you can’t ban them in the city. Take a look at what is happening in California (such in most states) and you will understand that there are 10 million infected there is no limit:
                    https://youtu.be/V3iaaeTkots
                    They robbed the whole world but never learned to live, flawed.
                    1. +3
                      13 March 2020 10: 20
                      How did you open my eyes!
                      I live in the USA for 8-9 months a year, but I haven't heard of such "horrors".
                      That's how the eyes of my swimmers open!
                      1. -1
                        13 March 2020 16: 53
                        Quote: A.TOR
                        How did you open my eyes!
                        I live in the USA for 8-9 months a year, but I haven't heard of such "horrors".
                        That's how the eyes of my swimmers open!

                        what son of an indian ??? wassat lol
                2. 0
                  13 March 2020 22: 41
                  But on YouTube, a film has long been laid out with fenced territories in the manner of concentration camps in the states and plastic coffins in huge stacks. What is prudence or firm belief that this will happen?
            2. +9
              13 March 2020 08: 17
              I even guess who will be blamed. Probably around the corner stands and laughs.
            3. +4
              13 March 2020 10: 30
              Everything in Fasherton is very holly ... The Turkmenbashi took and canceled this virus by decree.
      2. -12
        13 March 2020 07: 43
        Vladimir. "Russia has become very rich, especially pensioners ..."Yes, it has already begun. It's time to buy a bag of dog food. The price has already risen substantially. This is just the beginning.
        1. +3
          13 March 2020 07: 55
          Where did that rise? Prices for everything are the same as a week ago, I go to the store every day.
          1. +8
            13 March 2020 08: 42
            Last weekend it was too lazy to go to the garage for a new welding machine, I decided to go on Tuesday, because I was on the way. Directly with me, the price tag increased by 11%. The seller spread his hands and said - what do you want? But they say it is not in vain - do not put off until tomorrow what can be done today.
            1. 0
              13 March 2020 09: 19
              a skeptic, well, I didn’t even talk about the scam of some huckster, taxi drivers over there after 2010 in Domodedovo, too, the prices were broken for those who got there, God be their judge. I’m talking about prices for transport, food, gasoline, mortgage rates, taxes, housing and communal services, etc. - in general, the bulk of the costs, none of this has risen and I think the Mishustin government will control so that it does not.
          2. +7
            13 March 2020 09: 04
            Sergei! I go to "Pyaterochka" every day, I did not notice a jump in prices - everything is as usual. But due to the fact that our dog, not according to our whim, but due to its breed, is used to eating dry food, we are forced from time to time to buy her a bag of imported food, because our companies have not yet learned how to produce good quality food. So - yesterday I ordered a bag of 12 kg - the price for the month increased noticeably - by almost 300 rubles. I understand that this is an import. But I know from experience that over time, prices for domestic products will also begin to creep - under the pretext that they allegedly contain imported additives. Additives are present, but in negligible quantities. Therefore, the fault is greed under a plausible pretext.
            1. 0
              13 March 2020 09: 34
              mikh-korsakov, here I agree, some of us like to profit ... Another reason to strengthen state control over the market and speed up import substitution.
      3. 0
        13 March 2020 18: 34
        And you, that a pensioner, speak with such sarcasm about pensioners, I think you are up to retirement as my grandson, that he goes to the 5th grade, I’m a pensioner and I don’t complain about retirement, although I live on the periphery, many of you have suffered about pensioners, and what you yourself have done for nth, you pay taxes, although I ask the couch ikpyrd who knows nothing but knocking and suffering for the whole Russian people on the clave.
        1. -1
          14 March 2020 04: 19
          Quote: mordor
          pensioner

          If you tell me about this, I can inform you that I have been retired for 20 years, I have been working for more than 50 years and still work .... But not all pensioners have such living conditions ... hi
    2. +14
      13 March 2020 06: 24
      Quote: Dalny V
      And I really want to make a mistake, but surrenders, including Russia will certainly be

      Of course everyone will suffer. What to do? Therefore, it is called the oil war.
      And glory to the Almighty that this is an oil war, not a real one.
      But in this war, the one who falls last will win.
      Will wait.
      1. +21
        13 March 2020 07: 12
        The Fed pours TRILLION dollars into the market in two days. In total, up to $ 4 trillion will be poured in a month. And Dow didn’t even stop, creeping down. And the banks rebounded by minus 5% and returned by minus 8. With diarrhea, plentiful food only worsens the situation of the patient. When there are a lot of these pieces of paper, their price will be zero.
        JPMorgan decided to finish off the damn Boeing and tied it up in a market falling to hell to Neutral with Overweight. The classic "nudge" from those who promised to lend an honest American shoulder. Special greetings to Ukraine, of course. Oh, and the Arctic fox is maturing. And something tells me that this time the Arctic fox will not go according to the scenario of the United States and not to their tune. There will be something that we have not seen before.
        1. +3
          13 March 2020 08: 21
          Please tell me ... more slowly., About Ukraine.
          1. +5
            13 March 2020 08: 30
            And what to tell, they will throw the first tattered raiders, having removed from the albeit small but contentment. Yes, and in general they will hammer on the existence of this Ukrainian Somalia in the center of Europesmile
            1. 0
              13 March 2020 09: 11
              I noticed who is minus. laughing Riders here to jump.
              1. +2
                13 March 2020 09: 42
                Alex Nevs, so of course, the CSO in Brovary spits with might and main, and as a result, "pregnant starving Siberian pensioners", "boys from Kursk with chicken skins", "a familiar minibus told" and other fantasies of common instructors appear in Rossoss networkslaughing
        2. +5
          13 March 2020 08: 22
          Sergei hi Indeed, it will be interesting, too many different factors converge in time and still converge. This is a virus about which so far nothing is known, what are the consequences, mutagenicity. Bubbles in the real economies of the world are no longer just the United States, the tendency to reduce energy consumption and generally save everything, the collapse of the image of the United States as a teacher in a market economy and, accordingly, the inability to manage the process of getting out of the fall as it was before, comrades aren’t rolling behind me. A pathology called - take away and divide in a market form, that is, a craving for a redistribution of a market that has not yet worked, but will certainly work. General globalization and the global division of labor against the backdrop of the virus and the closure of borders. In general, if you consider that all businessmen like macaques can only act according to the pattern, and the pattern is torn to shreds, then there will be a very interesting light presentation ...
        3. -1
          13 March 2020 08: 23
          Are you tired of the American Arctic fox expected? )))
          Now everyone will run (already running losing slippers) in the dollar and the treasure. What hyperinflation !? And the decline in the cost of resources and the pouring lard will stretch the US economy many times faster than recovering from the resources (including ours).
          1. +3
            13 March 2020 08: 37
            unaha, you didn't understand anything at all. When they "run", who "runs", I would like to recall Preobrazhensky with his immortal "Who stood behind whom, take the trouble to explain more clearly." Yes, this method does not work already, do you understand now? All they can do is drop bond and stock yields, drive everyone into the cash, and devalue the dollar. Apparently the treasures are being drained at full speed. America zvizdets, here in general there are no other options. Regarding Russia, it will certainly not be easy for us, but definitely many times easier than Matrasia, whose 90% of GDP is a printing press, manipulations with shares and services. Russia's GDP at PPP is $ 4,3 trillion, which is, of course, 5 times less, but this is completely real GDP with a real economy. And by the way, we can produce the entire list of goods and products ourselves, in contrast to mattress covers.
            1. -1
              13 March 2020 08: 39
              Thanks, laughed)
              1. +1
                13 March 2020 09: 36
                unaha, above yourself?) See, you are already closer to the stage of "Acceptance"good
        4. -3
          13 March 2020 09: 07
          Ukraine, Omeryga ... You have an inferiority complex.
        5. -1
          13 March 2020 22: 49
          Well, God bless them, miserable, for us, what are the forecasts? To pack up with matches, salt, kerosene, dig dugouts or crawl right away to the graveyard? Or will they not see the future so that everyone?
    3. +5
      13 March 2020 06: 25
      it will end in a couple of months with new treaties. war of attrition is not needed by all. to create a world tantrum on the grounds that we cannot lower the booty, it was necessary to try. dumping started by Saudi Arabia in general no way but to explain the war. but why do they need it ... specifically fail the IPO?
      1. +5
        13 March 2020 06: 36
        If someone loses, then others win. And it will be the consumer countries that benefit from falling oil prices as manna from heaven for their economies. feel Another thing is whether they will be able to take advantage of this. what
        1. +1
          13 March 2020 06: 46
          Quote: bessmertniy
          And it will be the consumer countries that benefit from falling oil prices as manna from heaven for their economies. Another thing is whether they will be able to use it.

          good
          TASS, March 12. Saudi Arabia is preparing three times increase oil supplies to European countries at a price of $ 25 per barrel. This was reported on Thursday by Bloomberg, citing sources.
          1. -2
            13 March 2020 07: 26
            Serg Koma-then, the Hausites will suddenly have "Dots-m", and smash the entire oil business to the trash! So that these Saudis don't shit on us!
            1. -1
              13 March 2020 08: 23
              You are indecently aggressive. Imagine, finally, that you are in a decent company.
            2. -1
              13 March 2020 09: 10
              This will not happen, you can’t help you with fantasies
              1. +1
                19 March 2020 08: 24
                Steen, but what about the ruble to the dollar then?) We live in Russia, so your rubles in your pocket from stock quotes will not get any worse.
          2. +25
            13 March 2020 08: 00
            Serg Koma, When they write that "Saudia can increase up to 12 million barrels per day" - I want to ask: how can it do it ??))
            It’s ridiculous for me, who has been working with oil and gas builders for almost a decade and a half, to hear about the cost of oil production. Most of the Saudis' wells are already at the limit of their service life, they are pumped, so their prime cost is the same as ours, while they have all the tanker trade and a huge logistical shoulder, and we have the bulk of oil pipelines and even the fact that tankers are much closer to consumers without passing any paid Suez Canals, so that the cost of delivery to buyers in Russia is the lowest in the world. In principle, Saudi Arabia cannot "fill with oil" in any way, their fables about "increasing up to 12 million a day" by knowledgeable world oil and gas experts have long been refuted, Saudi production is at the limit, which is why they set up a drone attack and other tricks. You can look at the debit card of their wells with a specialist and find where there you can find the possibility of increasing by as much as 2,5 million barrels per day. Saudi is quite capable of opening up its oil storage facilities, but first of all, this is unlikely to allow it to make an acceptable IPO for Saudi Aramco (this company, I will remind you, accounts for about 50% of the entire national wealth of Ksa and gives more than 80% of all exports), that is, a critical step, the slightest critical distrust of the basis of the Kingdom's economy - and investors will withdraw all the money from there, and the Americans will also arrange a coup d'etat for them, the benefit of the military bases is full. Secondly, where the Saudis will suddenly find hundreds of free tankers on the market to transport an additional 2,5 million barrels per day, do you think they have been idle for years somewhere in order to appear in the right place at some point? In fact, it is necessary to build a tanker, this requires time and economic feasibility (which is not observed), so the threat of an increase to 12 million barrels is a bluff. By the way, Arab Light and Urals brands operate in different consumer segments, they hardly compete with each other, but Arab oil is just a competitor to American WTI. Now we think.
            1. +5
              13 March 2020 08: 25
              Thank you for a narrow focus educational program. I was not interested in that.
            2. +2
              13 March 2020 16: 58
              Quote: Sarmat Sanych
              Secondly, where the Saudis will sharply find hundreds of free tankers

              It seems that this is the most important question !!! wink good
            3. +2
              13 March 2020 22: 10
              You should write an article! Although your comment is better than many articles came out. hi hi hi
          3. +1
            13 March 2020 18: 42
            They can increase the price and set a small price, but it must also be delivered, that they have built a tanker fleet or laid new pipes, this is all puffed into the media, regular scarecrows.
        2. +8
          13 March 2020 08: 46
          bessmertny, you don't understand economics. All oil importers are highly export-oriented economies; they depend on the volume of exports of their goods. And if oil exporters are in a crisis, then they will sharply reduce the import of goods, which in turn will hit the countries for which "cheap oil is like manna from heaven." No guys, this is not manna, a furry animal will come to all credited countries, countries with small gold reserves, countries that are unable to provide themselves with food, countries that have a high percentage of private and not state economies, countries whose GDP is virtually inflated. Russia does not fall into any category, but the entire Western world plus Japan, the Middle East and South Korea fall completely. On them with all the foolishness and hammer, on the rest it is easier. Needless to say, I do not attribute various worthless limitrophes like Ukraine, Georgia and the Tribaltic extinctions to any category, they will simply quietly disappear and finally scatter Gaster at the first economic match.
    4. +6
      13 March 2020 06: 33
      If the games of the capitalists consisted only in the loss of the Dow Jones index, then there is a boor with them, but the games of the capitalists very often end with the loss of people either from hunger or from the world massacre unleashed by them to support this Dow Jones! If someone thinks that capitalism is a system for people, then it is clinical ....! Capitalism is a system for the capitalists! And people are appreciated by them depending on their ability to reproduce surplus value - a narrow circle of world hucksters created a little illusion of a social good for a person - the ability to travel to Turkey and buy Ford Focus loans on credit, but only so that the person doesn’t bother much! I would not be surprised if the coronavirus pandemic turns out to be artificial and a link in one chain along with a sharp drop in oil prices ... It’s scary to unleash a world carnage for the capitalists for now, due to the presence of nuclear weapons, so they use a different method to redistribute the world market! Well, if at the same time 30 million die - then God bless them - they did not fit into the market! laughing
      1. -8
        13 March 2020 06: 41
        Named the main "victims" of a sharp drop in oil prices

        Really, it’s again the Russian car owners, and after them all the other Russians, who use goods, the price of which includes the transport component? wassat
        1. +2
          13 March 2020 06: 56
          What does this have to do with it?)))))) The price of oil is falling, but not growing. And what would you start to pay more, you need to increase the excise tax, so there is nothing to do with prices
      2. +5
        13 March 2020 21: 43
        Quote: Finches
        the opportunity to travel to Turkey and buy a Ford Focus loan

        doubtful joy ... especially for amers !!! wassat Yes, and taking into account the distance from America to Turkey !!! lol
    5. -1
      13 March 2020 06: 54
      Russia will not, even with $ 10 we will be in the black, though not in bold, but in the black
      1. -5
        13 March 2020 06: 56
        even at $ 10 we will be in the black
        I’m embarrassed to ask, where does such optimism come from? You personally will also be in the black?
        1. +2
          13 March 2020 07: 01
          Don't be shy. "WE" is a form of address during discussion, so WE ARE RUSSIA or WE ARE RUSSIANS will remain in the black. It's better not to argue with me on this topic, I defended my diploma on foreign economic activity
          1. -7
            13 March 2020 07: 05
            I defended my diploma on foreign trade
            Well cool, really. AND?
            Yeah don't be shy
            I will not mention that we had to graze cows together. Remind me.
            About
            WE ARE RUSSIA OR WE ARE RUSSIANS will stay in the black
            I wrote quite specifically, Russian in white:
            The main victims will be determined later. Strongly then. And I really want to make a mistake, but surrenders, including Russia will certainly be among them. And to be more precise, the people of Russia (those who are not Deripaska and not sechiny with millers)
            Did not see? When defending a diploma on foreign trade, vision planted?
            1. +1
              13 March 2020 07: 08
              You personally no matter how concerned exchange trading, like me
        2. +4
          13 March 2020 21: 44
          Quote: Dalny V
          Will you personally be a plus too?

          what But do you personally don’t eat bread so that you whine in tyr ?? ?? !!! recourse wassat
      2. -3
        13 March 2020 07: 21
        Quote: Stalllker
        Russia will not, even with $ 10 we will be in the black, though not in bold, but in the black

        You forgot to change the training manual.
        "The government has named oil prices that allow the Russian industry to ensure profitability. As Deputy Energy Minister Pavel Sorokin said in an interview with Vedomosti, the cost of a barrel of oil in Russia is about $ 25, respectively, if energy prices fall below this level, the production of" black gold "In our country it will be unprofitable. For oil refineries, the critical price is $ 40 per barrel."
        1. +3
          13 March 2020 07: 23
          in Russia from $ 3,5 per barrel, the budget "includes" the price of $ 40. I advise you not to read bloggers, but contact official sources in the ministries of the Russian Federation
          1. 0
            13 March 2020 07: 35
            Quote: Stalllker
            in Russia from $ 3,5 per barrel, the budget "includes" the price of $ 40. I advise you not to read bloggers, but contact official sources in the ministries of the Russian Federation

            Citizen, this is the information of the government of the Russian Federation, namely Deputy Minister of Energy Pavel Sorokin ... https://www.vedomosti.ru/business/characters/2019/02/21/794795-zamministra-doinaya-gigantskii-zakazchik
            Do not pretend to be a clown. That's shameful.
            1. +3
              13 March 2020 07: 40
              We have already listened to one deputy minister about driver certificates, now let's listen to another, a citizen is not a clown
            2. +3
              13 March 2020 10: 46
              Quote: https://www.forbes.ru/biznes/394827-troynaya-bronya-rossiyskih-neftyanikov-kak-rossiya-podgotovilas-k-cenovoy-voyne-s
              Russian oil companies turned out to be the only ones in the world who are ready for the price collapse that we are seeing now, writes Bloomberg. They will be able to continue deliveries even at the lowest oil prices. due to the low cost of production, one of the lowest in the world

              Forbes repeats this casually. It seems that in Western media and analysts, the hemispheres of the brain are not communicating with each other. For Saudi Aramko, they make analytics that Russian production is one of the most expensive, they immediately write that it is cheap, and everyone chooses for himself what pleases his self-esteem more. Be sure. The crisis was before the covid, the crisis will continue after. The drop in production is worldwide, the virus just accelerated gravity a little. The oil workers just said, "Ok. Let's fall together."
            3. +1
              19 March 2020 08: 12
              Odyssey, who do you think knows the industry better and the cost of production in dozens of Russian fields - the new deputy minister or all the long-standing leaders of Russian oil and gas companies? Are you aware that the heads of Tatneft, Gazpromneft, Lukoil, Rosneft have already spoken about this? Everywhere was confirmed the cost of oil production from $ 8 to 12 per barrel. And it’s logical, in Russia new deposits are constantly being discovered, the oldest are less than 40 years old, and the Saudis have been mined for the same for more than half a century, do you think that only the cost price remains the same as it was three decades ago?
      3. -4
        13 March 2020 10: 10
        Quote: Stalllker
        Russia will not, even with $ 10 we will be in the black, though not in bold, but in the black

        And the plus will be more fat if we give oil for free! good
        1. -1
          13 March 2020 10: 15
          An interesting banter of course, but for people who are now tied up like oil, their heads are spinning from such events. In the Ministry of Finance all the more
          1. 0
            13 March 2020 10: 42
            Quote: Stalllker
            Interesting banter of course

            Of course, but even more interesting are your statements about the profitability of oil production at $ 10. This is despite the fact that the minimum cost of oil production in Russia is 25 dollars.
            1. -1
              13 March 2020 10: 48
              Let it be for you $ 25))) exhale
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    6. +12
      13 March 2020 07: 09
      Far East, Russia is best prepared for the global crisis in the world, we have gigantic reserves of $ 750 billion, gold of 2300 tons, virtually zero debt, we can live for $ 30 for 10 years in a row, we are completely independent of food for 95% of imports.
      By the way, everything is OK with the exchange! Speculators leave, as they leave - everything will stabilize. Plus, at the bottom, the state will traditionally buy in full. Speculators fold, supply increases, indices fall. Our state knows how to nationalize cheaply, in 99m it was in state ownership about 15% of the economy, before the crisis of 2008 25%, in 2010 already 40%, in front of Crimea about 50% and now it is already 75%. Western "investors" evacuate their money to the west, because they have a liquidity crisis there, and a sale)
      1. -9
        13 March 2020 07: 13
        we have huge reserves of $ 750 billion, gold 2300 tons, virtually zero debt
        Fig, behold. In 2014, I remember, everything was about the same. And how we got through that crisis - do not remind me? The economy is still marking time, the population has been poorer for six years in a row. And, by the way, the population decline has also continued continuously since that time. Do you call this "preparedness for the global crisis"? Nu-nu.
        1. +4
          13 March 2020 07: 27
          Normally, everything has passed, everyone is alive and well, well-fed and well-dressed.
        2. +15
          13 March 2020 07: 31
          Stop parroting and repeating hackneyed nonsense. First, the population of Russia at the end of 2019 is 146,8 million people. Plus, it certainly will not decrease; 4 million Russian LDNRs of the Russian Federation receive the accelerated pace. Secondly, the Russian economy, although slowly growing at 1,5-2% per year, industrial growth annually 2-2,5%. Yes, this is not much, but the global average growth is only 0,4%, 5-6 times less. Sorry to grow even harder with such a global market environment. And the entire Western GDP growth is the endless printing press of the Fed, the ECB, the Bank of Japan, the Bank of England and even the Bank of China, then virtually free shipment of trillions to their companies, the buyback by those companies of their own shares on the stock exchange to increase capitalization and further in the circle. Wheel of Samsara. It’s hard for us, of course, but unlike Western GDP, our gross product is REAL, its growth is small but real.
          1. -7
            13 March 2020 07: 58
            certainly it will not decrease; 4 million Russian LDNRs receive the Russian Federation’s export at an accelerated pace.
            Are you definitely okay? Is it normal for you that the country's population is increasing not due to natural growth, but due to substitution? Well, along the way at the helm of the country the same figures are standing, so there is no need to be surprised at the current situation.
            In economics: and if Rosstat changes the calculation method once again, will they also change your manuals? Just wondering. Although not, uninteresting. Your arguments are expected and long chewed. Once again, just chew squeamish.
            1. +7
              13 March 2020 08: 10
              In short, the standard decided to poke on the Internetlaughing. You are boring and predictable, a set of stamps. Not aware that we had a giant demographic pit in the 90s with colossal mortality and emigration? Did not hear or pretend to be? This generation of the 90s is giving birth now, and I’m giving birth to a good note, the fertility rate per one childbearing woman in Russia is 1,7 children, which is by the way higher than the average European, Middle Japanese and Chinese average (after they lifted the ban on the 2nd). Another thing is that the very generation of 90s in Russia is PHYSICALLY small, therefore, since 2016 the natural decline began to take place, and before that there was a natural increase without migrants for more than 10 years in a row.
              In economics - improve your level of education in order to talk with me in an equal dialogue, otherwise windbags in social networks about "changed the method" and run around with this flag waving but not understanding what and what shouting "aaarrryaabam!"
              1. -5
                13 March 2020 08: 26
                Those. the calculation method did not change? And the head of the Federal State Statistics Service was not replaced? And the indicators according to the results of the new methodology did not change?
                1. 0
                  13 March 2020 08: 59
                  unaha, you have an interesting nickname, speaking)) No, all the rules, just spoken aloud) Ask yourself what has changed, what year is taken as the base, why it was done. You will see that this is a standard international methodology, the base year of the basis for the year with a frequency of several years should change. With regard to growth, all Rosstat indicators not only coincide with the calculations of the IMF, EBRD and the World Bank, but they turn out to be even smaller. There are dozens of branches of foreign banks in Russia, and all of them are analyzing the growth of the Russian economy. By the way, for a start I will say (now there is little time): do you know that Russia's real GDP is at least 30% better than the declared one? There is such a sector g-to-g ("state-to-state), it does not pass according to any reports, but according to indirect data, the IMF has already started writing notes from the year before last that Russia does not publish more than half a trillion $ of GDP and for some reason is hiding )
                  1. -1
                    13 March 2020 11: 00
                    Quote: Sarmat Sanych
                    you have an interesting nickname speaking

                    It is unlikely that you are aware of what exactly)
                  2. -1
                    13 March 2020 11: 09
                    GDP per se, no matter how it is considered, does not say anything about rising levels or quality of life. Interesting household income / expenses. And here everything is sad and for a long time.
                    1. +1
                      19 March 2020 07: 09
                      unaha, household incomes in Russia, although slowly growing, last year 2%. But something else is important here - around the world, PPP household incomes have been falling 12 years ago, the only exception is China (although by no means 6-7% as their GDP) and a number of small Southeast Asian countries. And in the United States, for example, the average American for 15 years has lost average PPP income by almost 200%, from the 70s almost 3 times. It is difficult to live in the global economy, and at the same time it is significantly better to live from year to year, all the more so the country under the total sanctions of the West, we do not forget.
          2. +4
            13 March 2020 08: 32
            For the passports of the Russian Federation in LDNR, that's for sure. The pace is concrete. However, it is not surprising.
          3. -3
            13 March 2020 16: 44
            Yeah, a reason for pride - According to the first estimate of Rosstat, Russia's GDP growth in 2019 amounted to 1,3%, which corresponds to the official forecast of the Ministry of Economic Development. The greatest impact on the growth of the physical volume of GDP was exerted by an increase in the added value of mining and manufacturing industries - by 2,7% and 1,6%, respectively. GDP growth comes from the extraction of resources.
            Here are the main demographic indicators of Russia for 2019:

            Born: 1 862 143 people
            Deceased: 2
            Natural population growth: -168 people
            Migration growth: 228 556 people
            1. +1
              19 March 2020 08: 39
              edasko, I ask you - stop writing, you do not understand what you are copying. Somewhere outdated data, somewhere generally incorrect, and even the conclusions are absurd. The migration increase for 2019 is almost half a million people, voiced by the Deputy Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation, more than 80% of those who received citizenship last year are residents of LDNR and Ukraine, the rest are Russian immigrants from Kazakhstan, Belarusians and a little from Moldova.
              Regarding growth, how do you say to make REAL growth higher, if in almost all countries the real economy and industrial production has been falling for 12 years in a row? The fact that in the West the Fed, the Banks of Japan, England, China and the ECB all include multi-trillion printing presses - this does not mean that there is growth somewhere. Yes, the PRC is indeed the only one of the above economies to grow, but not really by 6%, but by about 2,5-3, while the domestic public debt in the Chinese regions has already invested $ 30 trillion and the environment has been completely destroyed. In the United States, Italy and Britain, real industrial production has been falling for almost 15 years in a row.
              Therefore, our modest but real 2,5% growth in industrial production in 2019 is a pretty good indicator, moreover, under the conditions of total Western sanctions.
              PS So far, all over the world this year, all industrial production is rolling into the pipe (in the PRC in general minus ~ 25%) - in February Russia has industrial growth of 3,3%. THE TALLEST IN THE WORLD.
      2. +2
        13 March 2020 10: 19
        Quote: Sarmat Sanych
        Russia is best prepared for the global crisis in the world, we have huge reserves of $ 750 billion

        Only from the beginning of this month 3 mln. the dollar has already been spent on supporting the ruble; nevertheless, it has fallen by 20% since the beginning of the year. And continues to fall. Where is the real import substitution and departure from the commodity economy, which you constantly talk about?
        Russia would be best prepared if we didn’t care about the price of oil on world markets. And now the king is naked, no matter how much you talk about his outfits.
        1. +1
          19 March 2020 08: 50
          Ingvar, you are again repeating the nonsense heard from somewhere. The Central Bank spent only three days to reset the currency and 20 million a day, EVERYTHING. After that, there were no interventions. The gold and foreign exchange reserves of Russia remained at the level of $ 570 billion, and speculators will make some noise on Forex, while our state will buy shares of Russian companies at the "bottom" of quotations on the cheap, as it was during the previous world crises.
          And who does not depend now on low oil quotes, recession due to coronovirus, global crisis - call us such a country, will it be interesting to hear? Are you aware that only in February China had a catastrophic collapse in industrial production minus 20%, while Russia has the highest industrial growth in February in the world - 3,5%? We draw conclusions.
          And import substitution is in full swing, I have already given you dozens of examples, for example, 97% of Russian food, 90% of vital drugs in the Russian market, 95% of Russian building materials, etc. A process is going on in all sectors, not only in the defense industry, where you hope you will not argue.
      3. -1
        13 March 2020 10: 45
        Quote: Sarmat Sanych
        Russia is the best prepared in the world for the global crisis, we have gigantic reserves of $ 750 billion ...

        And now, the money saved by the pension reform will be flooded with a rapid flow to the budget.
        1. +1
          19 March 2020 08: 54
          Piramidon, where does "the savings due to the pension reform" come from? Guys, well, you have to delve into the news and comments, and not react to reflexes.
          One day - and plus almost 2 trillion rubles to Russia's reserves. Our country has long been preparing for current events. According to the classics of the media, they write panic articles and comments from various pseudo-experts with forecasts that will be worthless are in the same vein.
          Our preparations for the disruption of the transaction with OPEC have long been prepared. They knew that the Saudis would not go to preserve the current parameters.
          In the end, bang bang. Panic-panic, and the most risky speculators are again with pockets full of money. I would not be surprised if our oil (and not only) companies already insured such price movements a year ago. Inside? Nonsense! Strategic planning. By the way, have you forgotten about the national projects? In vain. This is Caseian mechanics. During a crisis, the government increases spending, creating demand for goods and services to compensate for the "exit" from the market of private players and their spending. As a result, everyone is happy: both private traders who received money from the state and the state, which received economic growth in a period when it should not be.
          Due to the jump in the rates of $, € and £, the NWF added almost two trillion, based on the size of the NWF as of March 1, 2020 at $ 155 billion. The accounts of the Federal Treasury are bursting with money. Therefore, in the aggregate of the foregoing, our authorities are so calm. Someone is panicking and hysterical, and our country is implementing all its plans.
          1. +1
            19 March 2020 11: 25
            Quote: Sarmat Sanych
            and here "saved by the pension reform"? Guys, well, you have to delve into the news and comments, and not react to reflexes.
            One day - and plus almost 2 trillion rubles to Russia's reserves

            And the money saved does not go to the budget?
            The net financial effect of pension reform on the budget may amount to about 100 billion rubles. by 2024

            Read more at RBC:
            https://www.rbc.ru/economics/05/07/2018/5b3cd3dd9a7947aa115fe0d3
            1. +1
              31 March 2020 15: 20
              Piramidon, but enough already grabbing for any reason about this pension reform, it was carried out all over the world long before us and no one was bugging anywhere, only with the help of Western NPOs and Khodor’s grandees they rolled out a hype that is called paid.
              And the gain from the $ rate for the National Welfare Fund is an order of magnitude higher than from the pension one.
      4. -3
        13 March 2020 16: 37
        On the basis of what are you making such rosy conclusions? Are you from the government or are you privy to secrets?
        "The draft decree on the approval of the privatization program until 2022 provides for the privatization of federal-owned shares of 207 business entities, 86 federal state unitary enterprises, as well as 1168 objects of other property of the state treasury of the Russian Federation," the thesis says.
        "The project also provides for plans to reduce the state's share in the authorized capital of seven largest companies: Sovcomflot, VTB Bank, Makhachkala and Novorossiysk sea trade ports, Rosspirtprom, Almazyuvelirexport, Kizlyar Brandy Factory," the Ministry of Economic Development said.
        The state turns out to think differently. It does not want, unlike you, an outflow of investors. Only a request - do not throw out in response 3 screens of tattered, loosely coupled facts with your fantasies.
        1. +1
          13 March 2020 16: 47
          Quote: edasko
          The draft decree approving the privatization program until 2022 ...

          It was December 25, 2019. Who then was head of government, do not remind?
          1. -3
            13 March 2020 18: 40
            Who cares? What, all canceled?
        2. +1
          19 March 2020 09: 01
          edasko, now look at WHAT has been privatized in the last 5 years. Guess?)) NOTHING. At the same time, the state confiscated Bashneft from Yevtushenkov free of charge, Antipinsky oil refinery from Mazurov, 30% of Rusal from Deripaska, KRET concern from Yevtushenkov, Rostec State Corporation in general took all Russian machine and instrument making for itself. Proceed? You do not look at the declarations (they are made for specific purposes), look at the real facts. And the facts are that nicherta has not been privatized for many years, while the share of state property in the economy has grown from about 20% in 2000 to 70% in 2018. Now on the "bottom" on the stock exchange, the state will buy shares of Russian companies even cheaper from Western investors.
          1. -1
            19 March 2020 09: 10
            Quote: Sarmat Sanych
            edasko, now look at WHAT has been privatized in the last 5 years. Guess?)) NOTHING. At the same time, the state confiscated Bashneft from Yevtushenkov free of charge, Antipinsky oil refinery from Mazurov, 30% of Rusal from Deripaska, KRET concern from Yevtushenkov, Rostec State Corporation in general took all Russian machine and instrument making for itself. Proceed? You do not look at the declarations (they are made for specific purposes), look at the real facts. And the facts are that nicherta has not been privatized for many years, while the share of state property in the economy has grown from about 20% in 2000 to 70% in 2018. Now on the "bottom" on the stock exchange, the state will buy shares of Russian companies even cheaper from Western investors.

            Oil is already at $ 20, the state is now sagging with all the assets taken to its ears, the government has never been able to effectively manage anywhere.
            Petrol prices, debt on the ears, unprofitable projects - this is the price of state administration.
            Russia with such a public sector shakes everything that the USSR did, and this will be the result of the GDP policy and its vertical.
            The state buys cheaply stocks, first of all the facts to the studio and secondly, if so, they give real money, for garbage bonds mk at such a price and forecast for 20-21 years.
            She will buy them up, and then privatize them, she just won’t be able to pull all this.
            The only question is, who will buy this shopping mall at some point the nullified guarantor again decides to take everything back.
            1. +1
              19 March 2020 09: 30
              atalef, is it really so hard with the epidemic in the promised one? Otherwise I cannot explain why you started the morning with diarrhea)). They say you have there for a long time there are no free beds for beds even on the aisles in the corridors, so look at yourself, everything is several orders of magnitude safer and more stable Russia has one of the world's largest gold and foreign exchange reserves of $ 570 billion plus NWF $ 155 billion, we at a price of $ 30 per barrel, we will be able to fulfill all budgetary obligations in full for at least 10 years in a row. Only the Saudis and shale companies will have their entire oil production dying in just 1 year of such oil.
              One day - and plus almost 2 trillion to Russia's reserves. Our country has long been preparing for current events. According to the classics of the media, they write panic articles and comments from various pseudo-experts with forecasts that will be worthless are in the same vein.
              Our preparations for the disruption of the transaction with OPEC have long been prepared. They knew that the Saudis would not go to preserve the current parameters.
              In the end, bang bang. Panic-panic, and the most risky speculators are again with pockets full of money. I would not be surprised if our oil (and not only) companies already insured such price movements a year ago. Inside? Nonsense! Strategic planning. By the way, have you forgotten about the national projects? In vain. This is Caseian mechanics. During a crisis, the government increases spending, creating demand for goods and services to compensate for the "exit" from the market of private players and their spending. As a result, everyone is happy: both private traders who received money from the state government and the state that received economic growth in a period when it should not be.
              Due to the jump in the $ and £ rates, the NWF gained almost two trillion, based on the size of the NWF as of March 1, 2020 at $ 155 billion. The accounts of the Federal Treasury are bursting with money. Therefore, in the aggregate of the foregoing, our authorities are so calm. Someone is panicking and hysterical, and our country is implementing all its plans.
              1. 0
                19 March 2020 09: 33
                Quote: Sarmat Sanych
                atalef, is it really so hard with the epidemic in the promised one? Otherwise I cannot explain why you started the morning with diarrhea)). They say you have there for a long time there are no free beds for beds even on the aisles in the corridors, so look at yourself, everything is several orders of magnitude safer and more stable Russia has one of the world's largest gold and foreign exchange reserves of $ 570 billion plus NWF $ 155 billion, we at a price of $ 30 per barrel, we will be able to fulfill all budgetary obligations in full for at least 10 years in a row. Only the Saudis and shale companies will have their entire oil production dying in just 1 year of such oil.
                One day - and plus almost 2 trillion to Russia's reserves. Our country has long been preparing for current events. According to the classics of the media, they write panic articles and comments from various pseudo-experts with forecasts that will be worthless are in the same vein.
                Our preparations for the disruption of the transaction with OPEC have long been prepared. They knew that the Saudis would not go to preserve the current parameters.
                In the end, bang bang. Panic-panic, and the most risky speculators are again with pockets full of money. I would not be surprised if our oil (and not only) companies already insured such price movements a year ago. Inside? Nonsense! Strategic planning. By the way, have you forgotten about the national projects? In vain. This is Caseian mechanics. During a crisis, the government increases spending, creating demand for goods and services to compensate for the "exit" from the market of private players and their spending. As a result, everyone is happy: both private traders who received money from the state government and the state that received economic growth in a period when it should not be.
                Due to the jump in the $ and £ rates, the NWF gained almost two trillion, based on the size of the NWF as of March 1, 2020 at $ 155 billion. The accounts of the Federal Treasury are bursting with money. Therefore, in the aggregate of the foregoing, our authorities are so calm. Someone is panicking and hysterical, and our country is implementing all its plans.

                A lot of beech, all the same turbidity was poured from the telecom into the ears of the population in 2007 and subsequent years.
                Look out the window - maybe you can remember reality.
                And at the same time - More sanction !!!!! Shout it out.
                1. 0
                  19 March 2020 09: 40
                  You definitely have a temperature and burns lower than your backlaughing. Napkin?
                  1. -1
                    19 March 2020 10: 43
                    I don’t understand, are you on a salary or an enthusiast? For a bot, you seem to be flexible ... Or a good bot. So I asked you - where are all these fabrications, some predictions, a heap of text garbage designed to overwhelm your opponent with empty information. You do not answer. What's the point to me in your unsubstantiated fantasies - "Now at the" bottom "on the stock exchange, the state will buy shares of Russian companies for a cheap price from Western investors"? Did you dream or report it in the morning? In your "texts" such garbage is full. Your goal is clear, but the means are suitable for idiots only.
                    1. +1
                      31 March 2020 14: 37
                      edasko, is it you who are hanging around the clock here calling me to VO once a month about botslaughing? Too lazy to even react to your empty emissions, is there something on business or will you knock your bald head on the parquet? What "dreamed", what "reports", read the official data and then whine. Until 2009, about 20% of the economy was in state ownership, in 2009 it was already 30%, before 2014 it was 40% and at the time of 2019 it was already 70%. Now the state and all Venezuelan oil have taken away from Rosneft for free, and I will remind you of trillions of dollars.
    7. -3
      13 March 2020 07: 18
      And that's what is characteristic, in the article the first item is America, only the strange thing is that the dollar against the dollar in the states did not fall, and their president did not say "there is no money, but you are holding on and you are in a good mood."
      They are trying to convince us that someone is even worse than us, and Kiev is the center of the world.
      And I do not care how it is there and with whom, and I know for sure that if oil has fallen by half, then the ruble will fall in the same way, which means everything will rise in price without exception. And so I want to ask the officials, the government, the president, "What the hell have you been doing all these 20 years, that the richest country in the world will be the most injured again:"
      1. +13
        13 March 2020 07: 38
        Malyuta, I repeat the review of girls and boys. I wanted to sneeze at the ruble exchange rate (all the more so since most of the daily expenses do not depend on it at all, transport services, housing and communal services products, electricity, etc. - everything is a domestic producer in Russia). And that's why. This is yesterday's Dow Jones (today's dumbed even stronger) - trading was stopped.
        All this is called EXCHANGE EXCHANGE.
        And so on for any company - Apple, GM, Boeing, GE, etc. It's time to admire the coco-petalization of Apple and Tesla))). Not a single control tool works, in other words, the lost printing press. Banks poured out overwhelmingly, 40%, more than Dow - this is where the dog no longer rummaged, but nakakat! Further - a spiral of hyperinflation and in six months for a dollar they will be in the face - or so. Remember this tweet. As it says in the tablets: The wind will drive them along the road, but you will not bend to pick them up.
        Apparently, a showdown will begin in the upper echelons of the United States)) All my life I listened to laughs on the topic "what are you talking about the decaying West and the defeated dollar." Now I will see the campaign with my own eyes.
        And where are these boys from Twitter and Yandex-Zen with traces of degeneration on their faces, who sarcastically (as they thought) were broadcasting in the comments the other day “Nothing will happen, but I've heard about the collapse in the USA for thirty years, cococo”? "Yes, I don't care what Apple has, here I am in Zhitomi .. here I am in Voronezh"))
        Russia's oil feint is sanctions against the United States. Now let's look, hehe, who is here at our gas station torn to shreds. While the whole world was buying up Tesla shares with hooting, Russia bought up hundreds of tons of gold.
        1. +3
          13 March 2020 08: 07
          Quote: Sarmat Sanych
          Russia's oil feint is sanctions against the United States. Now let's look, hehe, who is here at our gas station torn to shreds. While the whole world was buying up Tesla shares with hooting, Russia bought up hundreds of tons of gold.

          In principle, I said that there will be two mass media excuses for the failed actions of the authorities
          1) HPP
          2) Trembling jackpots, Saudis traitors, kakly, Georgians, a resident of the planet Pluk, and of course, Australian Aborigines do not allow people to trade in national oil for $ 150.
          In your case, we include the nambra item 1. Only your comment in which you are trying to pull an unfortunate owl on a globe has nothing to do with the real state of affairs in the Russian Federation. You are again trying to tell a fairy tale about the great Mnogohodovochka, which all will blow up the Yellowstone and turn the Gulf Stream back.
          Only I want to remind you that the drop in oil prices was one, if not the main, factor in the fall of the USSR. Or will you now compare the USSR with the world's second superpower and the Russian Federation, which in fact is its stump? Or maybe you compare the intellectual potential of the leadership of the USSR and today's managers from the Walst?
          1. +9
            13 March 2020 08: 27
            Naftalinovo parrot for a bag of seedslaughing? You carry such an infantile blizzard that even my nephew, a schoolboy, would hesitate to write. And where does the USSR with its leadership, do you want to get completely into a puddle? The leadership of the Union had such a "powerful potential" that it ruined an economically huge country with 290 million only when oil dropped 2,5 times for a short time, and since 2014 the oil price has already dropped 4 times and we would at least have henna - RF GDP at PPP $ 4,3 trillion, 5th in the world, budget surplus for 19 years in a row, almost zero national debt, gold reserves of $ 750 billion of which gold is 2300 tons. Let me remind you that the whole Union had less than 1991 tons in 300 and gigantic debts of $ 200 billion at that rate of $ 91, Russia alone paid them off for all 15 republics of the Union in the mid-2000s. What is the effectiveness of the Soviet elite (and even more so compared with the current leaders) if that Soviet elite was all spineless, gerontocratic, corrupt, and as a result, everything was ruined to hell. We are still collecting, Crimea has been returned, Donbass is on its way, since half a million Russian Donetsk residents have already received Russian passports.
            1. +1
              13 March 2020 08: 47
              Quote: Sarmat Sanych
              Naftalinovo parrot for a bag of seeds? You carry such an infantile blizzard that even my nephew, a schoolboy, would be shy to write

              Well, the usual Kremlin troll, trying to humiliate the interlocutor and due to this, supposedly add the significance of your own "blizzard" laughing
              By the way, "carry a blizzard" is your style-life, which gave life to the main blizzard and part-time citizen of France, Mr. Sands.
              So leave your "blizzard" for the housewives and the cistern, it doesn't work now.
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              2. +1
                19 March 2020 09: 04
                Malyuta, when will you start to communicate in your own words and not to indulge in memorized phrases? Although you understand that you are here as a clown in the circus arena and everyone is laughing at you?)
          2. +5
            13 March 2020 12: 09
            Quote: Malyuta
            the drop in oil prices was one, if not the main, factor in the fall of the USSR. Or will you now compare the USSR with the world's second superpower and the Russian Federation, which in fact is its stump? Or maybe you compare the intellectual potential of the leadership of the USSR and today's managers from the Walst?

            what Interestingly, you put all the seeds in a bag!
            The USSR is the second superpower in the world, with a high intellectual potential, and suddenly the main factor in the collapse of the Union was the fall in oil prices ... hmm ... that is. high intellectual potential did not help at all? Moreover, today's "managers" have been keeping the country afloat for 12 years already, under the conditions of the new Cold War, and they do not even import wheat! How strange, isn't it?
          3. +5
            13 March 2020 21: 53
            Quote: Malyuta
            Only I want to remind you that the drop in oil prices was one, if not the main, factor in the fall of the USSR.

            what why then in 2014 Russia did not fall apart ?? !!! recourse laughing
        2. -1
          13 March 2020 08: 34
          What are the "sanctions"? What are you speaking about? "Experts" have already changed their shoes in a jump.
          March 9
          The deal with OPEC to reduce oil production did not meet Russia's interests. This TASS said a spokeswoman for Rosneft Mikhail Leontyev.

          March 13
          Director of the Center for Political Information Alexei Mukhin: “we observed the deviant behavior of the Saudis, who, in fact, maliciously disrupted the deal. Because what happened cannot be called otherwise ”
          The director of the Valdai club Oleg Barabanov noted that “here we saw a clear traditional link, unfortunately, between the United States and Saudi Arabia”
          Alexey Mukhin agreed with him. “The Russian side in this case is always ready for negotiations. She is ready to return to the previous format, but on fair terms.
          1. +3
            13 March 2020 09: 05
            unaha, so everything is right Leontiev said. Trump hailed the Palestinian proposals as the "deal of the century" - no one really noticed. Sechin stamped his foot on the machinations of the Saudis, on the OPEC + deal - the world is on the verge of collapse. Nobody cares about exchange rates, they are hooked seriously - for the post of captain, who drives the oil ship of the World.
            World media: "RF attacks the US shale business." It is business, not companies. Those are all unprofitable for years. And at a high price, too, a loss. The industry provides a huge number of jobs in the states for Trump. A trillion more debt, a trillion less - no difference. Trump is "violent", but you need a soft pre
        3. +2
          13 March 2020 11: 12
          Quote: Sarmat Sanych
          I wanted to sneeze at the ruble exchange rate (all the more so since most of the daily expenses do not depend on it at all, transport services, housing and communal services products, electricity, etc. - everything is a domestic producer in Russia).

          Sergey, it’s like you were born yesterday. How many of these ruble landslides have already happened, and always this has led to an increase in prices for everything, even for carrots from a neighboring collective farm. I remember that correspondents conducted an investigation, in particular, on raising the price of champignons, which were supplied by a farmer working 20 km from the city. The farmer said he continues to sell goods to retail chains at the same price as before. But the traders made a cheat, motivating this by the fact that they had all the equipment, packaging and supplies, spare parts imported and they went up, so the price of mushrooms increased by 10%.
          In the face of the representative of the trading network, it was clear that this was pure excuse. But how can they not take advantage of the fact that everything is becoming more expensive in the world, and they will not warm the hands on this
          1. 0
            13 March 2020 11: 23
            Trading networks are a mafia. Antitrust monitors and the FAS do not want to fight with it. This is troublesome.
          2. 0
            19 March 2020 09: 10
            Piramidon, friends, well, I say the same - you need to understand the economy, not for the average man.
            As one of my distinguished colleagues says, “Peace of mind is the most valuable resource in times of crisis.”
            Although knowledge is also good.
            Some all-proponents still won’t calm down and continue to broadcast “The Saudis are taking revenge on Putin for his impudence” (if you really want to establish authorship, you can google this phrase).
            First, not the Saudis, but the Saudis. Because “Saudis” is the name of the people, and “Saudis” are the ruling dynasty. A professional diplomat must understand the difference.
            Secondly, it is very strange that “they are taking revenge on Putin,” and the appeal to the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, Mohammed bin Salman, was written by thirteen US senators (and Republicans), asking him to refuse a sharp increase in oil production.
            The American senators of the Russian opposition do not read, otherwise they would know that they were saving Putin (just in case: sarcasm).
            But this is so, just an example of how some are not friends with their heads.
            Today’s main topic of discussion was “Why do you write that the crisis is in the USA and the dollar is getting more expensive / the ruble is falling?”.
            For the seed, I’ll ask a counter question: what side is the national currency exchange rate associated with the stability of the economy? Let's try to answer this question. In the meantime, you will answer, you can read about the "trilemma of international finance." Sobering up.
            So why are prices falling on the Russian stock exchange (where there is no crisis) and the ruble falling?
            The answer is simple and banal: speculators are running.
            The US has a huge liquidity deficit; the Fed has already thrown in $ 2,2 trillion - and it doesn’t help. The local players need all the cash they can earn. And they pull it from wherever possible.
            Therefore, foreign speculators:
            a) sell their Russian assets (for rubles, of course) at a substantial discount - because urgently;
            b) they buy dollars with all their money in order to bring them home. Again, urgently, therefore, at any rate.
            As the old joke says, “Every winter, Winnie the Pooh, like a decent bear, hibernated. And every winter Piglet, like a decent pig, used this godlessly. ”
            Attention, the question is: if foreign speculators sell off their Russian assets for nothing and withdraw cash at a disadvantageous rate for themselves, then why bother them?
            Take a look who in the business media screams the most about “The course is bad, Coco! Let the Central Bank give us cheap dollars, Coco! ”? And why?
            Now these speculators will sell off their assets (I have a suspicion that the state will buy up the lion's share of them on the bottoms again, as in previous times), purchase and withdraw the currency abroad - and everything will begin to normalize.
            And the prices in the stock market will win back, and the dollar will roll back.
            Therefore, the state does right that it does not fit into the foreign exchange market with interventions and until it stabilizes the exchange rate, which would be in the hands of the outgoing speculators.
            However, the news shows that the Russians are already quite experienced in this regard, and in the wake of the escalating panic, they ran for the most part not to buy, but to sell dollars.
            Everything is correct. The basic principles of the market are “buy (shares in this case) on the bottoms”, “sell (dollars) on highs”.
            In the six years that I have been closely monitoring Russian markets, I have never made a mistake in my forecasts.
            So if you see the next "mother's economists" screaming about a "two hundred dollar", immediately offer them futures that sell them a dollar in six months "only" for 150. They are sure of their forecasts, right? Then let them buy - earn!
            PS That's exactly what happened the last time, they sold the dollar at 60 and bought already at 80, in addition to the fact that Gazprom bought at 200 and sold at 140. A thousand and one honest way of taking money from foreign speculators))
        4. +5
          13 March 2020 11: 47
          Quote: Sarmat Sanych
          Apparently, a showdown in the upper echelons of the United States will begin))

          Duc, these showdowns did not stop. And the crisis will immediately be picked up on the shield (if not already) by demors with the goal of dumping Trump - in any case, most of the cones will fly into it. Yes
        5. 0
          13 March 2020 12: 35
          Next up is the spiral of hyperinflation and after six months they will give for the dollar in the face - or so. Remember this tweet.


          Well ... Sergei, I'll take off my hat if that's the case. I am a techie, "no boom-boom" in macroeconomics, I have no desire to understand from scratch, it is not interesting. It seems that you have arguments, and your opponents are no worse.
          And the United States is not only stamping dollars. Real pieces of iron do, and do well.
          And I will keep the forecast, it "warms my soul" laughing
          1. +5
            13 March 2020 21: 55
            Quote: dauria
            Real pieces of iron do

            be surprised, but many countries do it !!! wink laughing
    8. 0
      13 March 2020 08: 15
      Far B, do not panic, not worthy.
    9. +6
      13 March 2020 08: 29
      Comrade wanted on Wednesday to buy a solid state drive in dns. On Tuesday, it was worth 3500; on Wednesday, 4600))) Something like that)))
      1. +9
        13 March 2020 08: 51
        Quote: Minus
        Comrade wanted on Wednesday to buy a solid state drive in dns. On Tuesday, it was worth 3500; on Wednesday, 4600))) Something like that)))

        Believe me, comrade, this is not the limit, since oil has fallen by half, then the ruble will do the same, but only after April 22nd.
      2. +4
        13 March 2020 10: 13
        Quote: Minus
        Comrade wanted on Wednesday to buy a solid state drive in dns. On Tuesday, it was worth 3500; on Wednesday, 4600))) Something like that)))

        What a blessing, I changed the hard drive last week. I looked at the production date - January 2019. However, the market is overstocked! request
      3. 0
        13 March 2020 10: 55
        Too shy to ask. Electronics is produced by whom? Are these countries the main oil producers or consumers of oil and gas? Oil prices have nothing to do with it. Banal speculation.
    10. 0
      13 March 2020 12: 45
      Among them will be all and the Russians are no exception. The US oil industry will fly, the budget of CA, Norway and other oil-producing countries will fly, then countries producing goods will fly further downward. How are you, liberal feeding ups, sickened up by the Sechins, etc., do you have a boner on them?
    11. +1
      13 March 2020 15: 56
      Quote: Dalny V
      Among them will certainly be Russia. And to be more precise, the people of Russia (those who are not Deripaska and not sechiny with millers).

      for a thousand years we’ve been listening to such vanguards !!! wassat laughing
  2. +7
    13 March 2020 06: 23
    Rally on exchanges has been going on for a week. And judging by yesterday's turns, they are not going to finish yet.
    Today is Friday 13th).
    We will see.
    1. +11
      13 March 2020 07: 16
      This is yesterday's Dow Jones (today's dumbed even stronger) - trading was stopped:

      And so every day. All this is called EXCHANGE EXCHANGE.
      Any company - Apple, GM, Boeing, GE, etc. It's time to admire the coco-petalization of Apple and Tesla))). Not a single control tool works, in other words, the lost printing press. Banks poured out overwhelmingly, 40%, more than Dow - this is where the dog no longer rummaged, but nakakat! Further - a spiral of hyperinflation and in six months for a dollar they will be in the face - or so. Remember this tweet. As it says in the tablets: The wind will drive them along the road, but you will not bend to pick them up.
      Apparently, a showdown will begin in the upper echelons of the United States)) All my life I listened to laughs on the topic "what are you talking about the decaying West and the defeated dollar." Now I will see the campaign with my own eyes.
      And where are these boys from Twitter and Yandex-Zen with traces of degeneration on their faces, who sarcastically (as they thought) were broadcasting in the comments the other day “Nothing will happen, but I've heard about the collapse in the USA for thirty years, cococo”? "Yes, I don't care what Apple has, here I am in Zhitomi .. here I am in Voronezh"))
      Russia's oil feint is sanctions against the United States. Now let's look, hehe, who is here at our gas station torn to shreds. While the whole world was buying up Tesla shares with hooting, Russia bought up gold in hundreds of tons, now there are 2300 tons in our gold reserves.
      1. 0
        13 March 2020 10: 24
        Quote: Sarmat Sanych
        This is yesterday's Dow Jones (today's dumbed even stronger) - trading was stopped:

        They will add a couple of tokens on virtual accounts, and transfer their hemorrhoids to the rest of the world, including Russia. We will have to compensate for the lost money by increasing oil and gas production, and inflation by the ruble, for which everyone will pay, including you by the way.
    2. +8
      13 March 2020 08: 49
      Quote: Alexey Sommer
      We will see

      Go to the exchanger and look.
      1. +3
        13 March 2020 10: 23
        I look regularly. )
        Threw off everything from sin today. I want to sleep peacefully, and not catch the course.
        You can stay without a bucket. )
        1. -3
          13 March 2020 10: 44
          Quote: Alexey Sommer
          Threw off everything from sin today.

          Rubles? bully
          1. +3
            13 March 2020 10: 46
            Dollars)) Translated into wooden and sit quietly, no longer staring at the charts.
            What will happen to the ruble, but the greens will burn, will Putin complain to go?
            1. 0
              13 March 2020 10: 49
              Quote: Alexey Sommer
              Translated into wooden and sit quietly,

              Those. lost corny on the course of 20% and rejoice? belay
              Quote: Alexey Sommer
              What will happen to the ruble, but the greens will burn, will Putin complain to go?

              The promised tale of the collapse of the dollar dragged on indecently. And I’ve heard about help for many times in my life, but I have never seen effective help.
              1. +2
                13 March 2020 10: 51
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                Those. lost corny on the course of 20% and rejoice?

                In rubles, I have not lost anything. As it was, it remained. I go to the shops every day.
                Ida! The latter is well pleased. Remember this post?
                1. 0
                  13 March 2020 10: 57
                  Quote: Alexey Sommer
                  In rubles, I have not lost anything. As it was, it remained. I go to the shops every day.

                  Come on? I wanted to buy a kettle here, so in two days it added 10% in price. The products in my experience will be tightened in a month. Not, after a half, up to 22 artificially retailers will be held.
                  1. +2
                    13 March 2020 10: 58
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    Come on? I wanted to buy a kettle here, so it’s 10% in two days

                    Seriously?..
                    Yes. For a long time I did not buy teapots. How much does it cost 1500?
                    1. +1
                      13 March 2020 11: 00
                      The day before yesterday, 2490. Today, 2800. With the rest of household appliances, the situation is similar. No one will trade at a loss, because you will have to buy a new product at a new rate. You do not understand this ?.
                      1. -2
                        13 March 2020 11: 03
                        I have all the equipment. It doesn’t bother me.
                        And a telly for 100 tons bought a car last year. And in general, now they are paying norms at a construction site. Doesn't matter to me for a 2500 kettle or for a 2800 understand?
                      2. +2
                        13 March 2020 11: 08
                        Quote: Alexey Sommer
                        And a telly for 100 tons bought last year and a car

                        How thrifty you are. I've stocked up on children, I have to save on the rest.
                        Quote: Alexey Sommer
                        And in general, now they are paying norms at a construction site.

                        In Moscow? I'm also at a construction site, the work is VERY diminished, and the prices for it have not increased since 2014, unlike prices. Milk for 6 years has doubled in price.
                      3. +2
                        13 March 2020 11: 10
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        In Moscow? I’m also at a construction site, the work is VERY diminished, and the prices for it have not increased since 2014,

                        I have traveled all over Russia since 2014. Business trips. Everything is fine with work.
                        I don’t drink so much milk to feel the difference.
                        Did not notice. hi
                      4. -1
                        13 March 2020 11: 12
                        Quote: Alexey Sommer
                        Everything is fine with work.

                        I do not know which Russia you traveled to, but a priest in Togliatti. People have no money. Can you tell me, maybe I will rush to "harvest"?
                        A friend lives in Krasnodar, says the same thing.
                      5. +1
                        13 March 2020 11: 15
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Can you tell me, maybe I will rush to "harvest"?

                        I myself am from Tula. Sat in need until 2012. Then he rushed for happiness in Yöburg. Settled fine now I do not bother. True, every 2,3 years they are transferred to a new region. Now in the mound. Here, of course, the priest. But I'm fine. Not everyone in Moscow receives as much as I do in Kurgan.
                      6. -2
                        13 March 2020 11: 25
                        Quote: Alexey Sommer
                        Not everyone in Moscow receives as much as I do in Kurgan.

                        Well, you understand that the bulk of the population can’t leave everything and go to another city for a high salary? Yes, and there are not so many tasty vacancies. Here, personally, without the work of cleaners and plumbers, you will grow dirt. These are ordinary people whose s / n limit is 20-25 tr.
                        Understand that the data provided by the Ministry of Finance on the average salary for the country are formed from the sum of your salary, and salary cleaners, nannies from the nursery, a fitter at the factory, and the top manager. On average, it is 43.t.r. How can you not even raise three children with this money (namely, you need to have so much that the birth rate in the country does not fall (!)), And at the same time buy TV sets and cars?
                      7. 0
                        13 March 2020 12: 34
                        Take a look. My relatives live in Germany. I consider their income and the average for Russia.
                        Here they have 2 euros an average salary. This is Munich. higher than the average for Germany.
                        Consumption: 1 apartment (this is social housing) +200 meals. We do not consider food and gasoline at 600 euros / lirt. There is 1,1 euros left.
                        Now we take our average.
                        43 minus apartment treshka (!!!), is this 000 approximately? Nutrition per person 7 maximum. I myself fit into a post at 000 rubles / day. Total remains 20-000-300 = 43 (This is 7 euros). Who do you think is better off?
                      8. 0
                        13 March 2020 12: 54
                        Alexei, how interesting you mixed the average salary in the country and the average income of your relatives))
                        Because the average RFP in Germany is 2 times higher than what you indicated))
                        So it’s better to recount your calculation based not on TR 43, but on those 20-25 that Igor wrote. And better on the basis of minimum wages in both countries))
                      9. 0
                        13 March 2020 12: 56
                        I then regularly visit FRG and sn and the prices are clear to me.
                        Yes, the sister’s husband receives 3, and the wife sits at home, and so most.
                        And at us men nevertheless more than 43 receive. Yes, and the wives work, some over 25, and some more.
                        And by the way, "twice, maybe" you are welcome to Switzerland. The Germans are very fond of working there precisely for this.
                        And the Bavarians pay the so-called "north tax". Because there in the north of Germany the average is already 1.
                      10. -3
                        13 March 2020 22: 13
                        Quote: Alexey Sommer
                        And at us men nevertheless more than 43 receive.

                        And where is it?
                      11. +5
                        13 March 2020 22: 06
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        Because the average RFP in Germany is 2 times higher than what you indicated))

                        how interesting you mixed the truth with the lie !!! what laughing

                        In 2019, the average pre-tax salary in Germany is 4093 euros, which is 3% higher than in the previous year (3981 euros in 2018). After fiscal deductions at the employee’s hands, about 2456 euros remain “clean”. The total income of a citizen consists of the salary and various social benefits that the employer can give out on holidays or vacations.

                        Source: https://germanexpert.ru/srednyaya-zarplata-v-germanii/
                      12. -1
                        16 March 2020 08: 23
                        Sorry, the accusation is not accepted, since 43 is "nominal accrued (and not paid) wages" - see the Rosstat website gks.ru
                      13. +2
                        13 March 2020 19: 56
                        Quote: Alexey Sommer
                        Food per person 20 maximum

                        Less. I spend five for five (my wife on maternity leave and three children). Apartment 30, maintenance of the car 3. The benefit is 6, but the mortgage is 10. Right up to the point where you don’t have enough money to buy jeans.
                        Once again, I do not whine, I state the facts. And my salary by the standards of the city is very good. Most get less.
                      14. -2
                        13 March 2020 23: 43
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Less. I'm for five (my wife on maternity leave and three children) I spend about 30.

                        You are just a hero. No jokes. And in terms of savings and in terms of children.
                        And what city if not a secret?
                      15. +5
                        13 March 2020 21: 59
                        Quote: Alexey Sommer
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Can you tell me, maybe I will rush to "harvest"?

                        I myself am from Tula. Sat in need until 2012. Then he rushed for happiness in Yöburg. Settled fine now I do not bother. True, every 2,3 years they are transferred to a new region. Now in the mound. Here, of course, the priest. But I'm fine. Not everyone in Moscow receives as much as I do in Kurgan.

                        you would not have much discussion with him ... he will still try to convince you that everything is bad with you !!! wink lol
                      16. -3
                        13 March 2020 11: 38
                        Quote: Alexey Sommer
                        I have all the equipment. It doesn’t bother me. And a telly for 100 tons bought a car last year. And in general, now they are paying norms at a construction site. I don’t care about a 2500 kettle or 2800 understand?

                        The technique tends to break down periodically. Service centers also use imported parts. And not everyone works "at a construction site." There are also teachers, doctors, pensioners who cannot afford "TVs for 100 tons". Grefam-Sechin-Nabiullin also cares how much a kettle costs, but they are not the people of Russia.
                      17. -1
                        13 March 2020 13: 07
                        Quote: Piramidon
                        Service centers also use imported spare parts. AND

                        I'll tell you a secret- ALL we have manufactured household appliances for a very long time. It was much easier to build an Indesita plant and produce goods here — rather than registering each washing machine at customs with payment of taxes and duties. Who was not interested in building factories — there are NO on the market (or very few) .
                        Moreover, there are practically no imported components there.

                        So on household appliances, it's just a big and green toad at traders, and not at all the growth of the dollar
                  2. -1
                    14 March 2020 00: 02
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    I'm a kettle here ...

                    All. You made me evening good

                    The comma, however, was forgotten, as always ... well, yes, I’m used to you already request
            2. +3
              13 March 2020 11: 49
              Quote: Alexey Sommer
              and the greens will burn, to complain to Putin to go?

              Only in the Fed, only hardcore. wassat
  3. +6
    13 March 2020 06: 28
    In short, gasoline will rise in price ...
    1. +5
      13 March 2020 06: 41
      That’s how it is, no matter what happens in the world, but gas prices are rising. This is our stability.
      1. -2
        13 March 2020 08: 43
        Don’t drink this abomination. Walking is healthier.
      2. 0
        13 March 2020 08: 59
        Now on Lukoil the stock is -2p per liter until the end of the month. gap patterns?
        1. +8
          13 March 2020 10: 25
          Quote: dragy52rus
          Now on Lukoil the stock is -2p per liter until the end of the month.

          Bet that the action will be maximum until April 23? wink
    2. +4
      13 March 2020 06: 43
      Et looking WHERE!
    3. +2
      13 March 2020 06: 47
      And I love walking on a bike, even though it’s standing in the garage of a retro-Volga and not only, I drive around Kiev on a sports bike faster than the metro, and I don’t care about all the quotes and oil prices.
      1. -1
        13 March 2020 07: 39
        And what for you motik
    4. +3
      13 March 2020 06: 57
      And not only....
  4. +6
    13 March 2020 06: 42
    Among the main losers -

    And let's wait \ look at whatever it may be, although the intermediate result would be ...
    But EVERYTHING BEGINS!
    1. +3
      13 March 2020 11: 03
      World trends have long been at their peak. Everything goes on.
      The economy on ice went into decline, the petrodollar tried to hold on to the last, but the bloated economy is slipping out of hand. Further, either in a gentlemanly way, follow, or say "Sorry, dear, I will for a second ..." and do not even try to hold her back. This is physics - the Law of Universal Gravitation! smile
      1. 0
        13 March 2020 11: 42
        Ha, let’s wait and see (we can’t \ do not want to do anything else), maybe someone in the zashashnik gets dusty and he turns it on! And let's fly all in the gap?
  5. -9
    13 March 2020 06: 55
    Among the main losers are the United States of America. With oil prices at $ 30 per barrel, virtually the entire US shale industry is moving out of the margin.
    Among the losers are some countries included in OPEC. This is Algeria, Nigeria, Iraq. The economies of these countries are more dependent on the volume of production and export of “black gold”.

    This is all wonderful and wonderful.
    You’d better tell me where Russia is on the list of the main losers depending on the oil needle and how long we will be leading it.
    Tell us why the dollar has become more than 74 rubles and how long the further impoverishment of the people will continue.
    And the most important question for our guarantor-writer of the constitution is: Which of his friends (maybe Sechin and Miller) or the guarantor himself will answer for this?

    Lyrics of the song Simon Slepakov - Song about oil

    I am a simple worker in a tractor factory.
    Last name Sinitsyn, call me Volodya,
    Every day in the morning I go to the factory,
    And this happiness lasts twenty fifth year, here!
    Standing at the machine, I sharpen the details.
    Pedals are made of these parts.
    They pay me a little, like a cat crying,
    But I’m not complaining, but why, our whole city lives like that, here!

    But a strange top has recently begun
    Money began to melt twice as fast
    Prices in stores have risen sharply,
    And I began to miss my bad life.
    I began to worry about what I don’t understand.
    But then on TV they said what's what.
    Like, America is insidious to us (pissed off).
    As a result, the price of our oil has fallen.

    But this is all an artificially planned act.
    And soon everything will change - this is an exact fact,
    They will not be able to bend us for a long time.
    The price of oil, for mother, will rise again.
    And everything will be as before, we will prosper,
    And my bad life again will start to miss.
    I liked very much everything the announcer said.
    But I still have a tiny question:

    I am very pleased, of course, that oil is about to rise in price.
    And damn it if not? What will happen if not?
    I realized everything will be corrected when oil prices rise.
    What the hell, if not? So here it is again and no?

    Dear those at the helm.
    Our big oil ship.
    I didn’t understand how it happened.
    You said everything will be nishtyak!

    All these years you have been pumping oil together.
    You did not know the measure, grief and sorrow.
    You worked day and night, serving your homeland.
    What is enough of this money to you for ten thousand lives.

    What how to live guys? I am a simple worker.
    From accumulations I have only kidney stones.
    Just a little meat on the surface of the bones.
    May I not wait for the good news!

    But it’s wrong that you sucked oil.
    And everything goes to ensure that now we are.
    Steal your health, I basically (shit).
    But why do I have to die?

    I am very glad of course that your oil will go up in price.
    And damn it if not? What will happen if not?
    I am very glad guys that oil is about to rise in price.
    And damn it if not? no desire!

    And so on.
    Edited here, hello to the moderators!
    1. -9
      13 March 2020 07: 27
      Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
      You’d better tell me where Russia is on the list of the main losers depending on the oil needle and how long we will be leading it.

      We share the third with Nigeria and Iraq. Venezuela and Iran have an even worse situation.
      Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
      Tell us why the dollar has become more than 74 rubles

      Because oil is a pillar and gas is a breadwinner.
      Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
      and how long the further impoverishment of the people will last.

      With the existing socio-economic course, it will always be.
      Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
      And the most important question for our guarantor-writer of the constitution is: Which of his friends (maybe Sechin and Miller) or the guarantor himself will answer for this?

      Since the guarantor is a writer of the Constitution, then everyone will be responsible for this, except for the citizens you have indicated.
      1. -3
        13 March 2020 08: 49
        Spring is in the yard, not a time for mournful songs. Equal to prosperous fellow citizens, and help the poor in silence if you meet.
        1. -2
          13 March 2020 22: 18
          Quote: Victor N
          help the poor silently if you meet.

          And the poor have become much more. If in the 80s one blind man stood, then now he does not push into the porch.
          1. +4
            13 March 2020 22: 34
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            it’s now not crowded on the porch.

            what and when do you have time to write from there ?? !!! wassat
            1. -2
              13 March 2020 23: 25
              Quote: Nikolai the Greek
              and when did you manage to write from there ??

              From the camel. By the way, if I bought the first computer in the USSR, then later the bourgeois brother gave me.
          2. +1
            13 March 2020 22: 57
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            now don't cram on the porch

            The wallets of the people have replenished. Not all the people, of course, but the "beggars" have enough laughing

            You’re kind of a smart guy, Vladimir, and you are so stupidly trolling request
            1. -2
              13 March 2020 23: 27
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              People’s wallets are replenished.

              Yeah, I just walked and waved them off. At the very thing, damn it, there is no fig, and then there are clings.
              1. +1
                13 March 2020 23: 33
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                People’s wallets are replenished

                Quote: Mordvin 3
                Yeah, I just walked and brushed them off

                From wallets ??? Well, you ... joker, what to say laughing
                1. -4
                  13 March 2020 23: 38
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  From wallets ???

                  No, from the beatings. I recently threw out wallets. Grandfather Aniskin coached, served thirty years for them.
          3. -1
            13 March 2020 23: 48
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            And the poor have become much more.

            In Moscow, a very noticeable increase. Constantly someone asks for money on the street. But even more noticeable is the rapid decrease in the percentage of Russians. Moscow just turned into a big aul
            1. -1
              13 March 2020 23: 55
              Quote: Odyssey
              Moscow just turned into a big aul

              Yeah, I crawl out with the bags from the bus, an Armenian runs up, sparkles his teeth with gold, and asks me to bring him to Domodedovo for 4 and a half thousand. I almost turned my back on him for such requests.
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  6. -5
    13 March 2020 06: 59
    What does the USA have to do with them how much they need to draw, and we have everything tied up for a buck, we need to take seeds for crops so we don’t have to take rubles either, many drugs in Russia are not produced especially in oncology, they are also in dollars oh, yes even palm oil, which we shamelessly pour into everything and also charge for currency, I don’t know, but ordinary people can endure again
    1. -3
      13 March 2020 07: 15
      Quote: Ivan Kolodin
      What does the USA have to do with their machine

      In my opinion, the one who draws world money, because it’s completely on the drum how much oil costs and if at all ...
      1. +2
        13 March 2020 09: 02
        Why, when considering the USA, they take the country as a whole, but as Russia, then individual citizens? or in the USA for ordinary citizens printing money is good and they do not have inflation?
    2. +1
      13 March 2020 22: 59
      Quote: Ivan Kolodin
      palm oil that we shamelessly pour into everything and also charge for currency

      Oh, trouble ... laughing

      Especially "take for the currency" delivered. More fire, "Ivan Kolodin" ... "IK", if you will Yes
  7. -6
    13 March 2020 07: 05
    And not a word about Trump's promises to free Americans from payroll tax by the end of the year! So affected ... crying
    1. -2
      13 March 2020 07: 21
      Moreover, small and medium-sized businesses fall under tax holidays ... And now they tell us how they will come to the tsar’s king to bow to Rosneft, Lukoil, NOVATEK, Tatneft, Gazpromneft, and begin to sob about Mount Veliky and of course they will make concessions, and simple IP bent from the tax burden ....
      1. -3
        13 March 2020 07: 24
        Of course, these are the main "payers" of taxes, only it is not clear where ... No small, but average to develop, they will definitely not withdraw money over the hill ... Ehhh, there are no words, only foul letters ...
        1. -1
          13 March 2020 09: 13
          You look at the fittin bots being activated, they are building a minus for the truth, you see, the installation went like this .... What can I say fools in power are a terrible force
          1. +4
            13 March 2020 22: 36
            Quote: Ivan Kolodin
            What say fools in power is a terrible force

            it’s good that you are not in power !!! lol
  8. +3
    13 March 2020 07: 45
    Hmm, now going to foreign resorts will not be beneficial for those who buy currency in Russia before the trip ... Everything foreign will rise in price ..... Well, probably this is done for something, not just ..... I don’t think that the main thing Russia will be the victims .... Under Putin, no more empty, rash steps were taken .....
  9. +1
    13 March 2020 08: 29
    The main victims are all-crawlers on the VO. laughing
    1. +1
      13 March 2020 09: 14
      Well, I’d look at your dumb smiley when you order medicine abroad for the currency, it grows for 15 a month, take away the idiotic smiley not to laugh at
      1. -2
        13 March 2020 09: 53
        Regrettably forced to buy foreign medicine. It is disgusting that you are trying to cling to something in your own right. It was not Russia that started the economic war.
        1. +1
          13 March 2020 10: 30
          Quote: Konstantin Shevchenko
          It was not Russia that started the economic war.

          Yes, but it is Russia that leads it according to the rules of the giveaway game.
          1. -2
            13 March 2020 10: 58
            Very unfounded. Decide on the rules of the world market or war? The United States has clearly shown that their war has no rules. Or do you think that Russia should bend under US sanctions for the dollar?
            1. +2
              13 March 2020 11: 04
              Quote: Konstantin Shevchenko
              Or do you think that Russia should bend under US sanctions for the dollar?

              No, Russia should stop feeding its own population tales of import substitution, shifting state reserves from one currency to another, and direct them to the development of their own country. A strong state with a strong economy benefits from low oil prices, because they give an impetus to the economy, reducing the cost of production.
              1. -2
                13 March 2020 11: 47
                Nd, how beautiful it is! Are you by any chance not from the Putin team? wink
                Do not bother, so break through
                We will be alive - we will not die.
                The deadline will come back
                What they gave - we will return everything.
                Alexander Tvardovsky, "Vasily Terkin".
                1. +3
                  13 March 2020 11: 49
                  Quote: Konstantin Shevchenko
                  Are you by any chance not from the Putin team?
                  No, he scored others. Or his real goals are different.
  10. -1
    13 March 2020 08: 37
    Quote: Chingachguk
    Hmm, now going to foreign resorts will not be beneficial for those who buy currency in Russia before the trip ... Everything foreign will rise in price ..... Well, probably this is done for something, not just ..... I don’t think that the main thing Russia will be the victims .... Under Putin, no more empty, rash steps were taken .....

    Is it a mockery? )
  11. -3
    13 March 2020 09: 27
    What are you moaning? What do you want from that dollar? What is bought for dollars will rise in price, demand will drop - and the same Chinese will start selling all this rutabaga for yuan, well, or for shells)) They will find what to replace and how to increase demand. And after the coronavirus, the Chinese God himself ordered on the contrary to lower prices for their consumer goods in order to increase sales and catch up.
  12. 0
    13 March 2020 09: 51
    Long live liberalism, but only in the US economy!
  13. -1
    13 March 2020 10: 37
    And I thought Russia ...
  14. +4
    13 March 2020 10: 42
    Quote: Sarmat Sanych
    Well, this is close to the truth, given their terrible medicine and the cost of the $ 3000 coronovirus test, even not everyone has insurance coverage. And 20 million American homeless people and tens of millions of migrants do not even have insurance than a hilarious nursery of infection, just as in China you can’t ban them in the city. Take a look at what is happening in California (such in most states) and you will understand that there are 10 million infected there is no limit:
    https://youtu.be/V3iaaeTkots
    They robbed the whole world but never learned to live, flawed.

    I am 46 years old . Not a boy. Explain to me, even thesis. 1 HOW? A country where there is no medicine, where huge armies of the unemployed, Mexicans, Latinos, and well, lynched Negroes manage to build aircraft carriers, nuclear submarines? 2. HOW? A country that does not even depend on oil but on the stock index manages to launch probes to other planets? . 2. WHY? ministers, deputies, a rentier from the Federation Council buy real estate there, send their children for permanent residence.
    1. +1
      13 March 2020 12: 26
      If thesis is:
      1. Poaching, buying, theft (not a complete list) of intellectual, material and other global resources. In a word - parasitizing to create favorable conditions for the survival of its species ("America above all!" Have you never heard of it?)
      2. see p1. (you have the same question, only the type of resource is different)
      3. Purchase of real estate - the withdrawal of looted capital, the link of their children abroad - the preparation of heirs to this withdrawn capital. The principle is simple: to steal here - to spend stolen goods elsewhere, along the way to prepare the larvae of the oligarchs so as not to disrupt the cyclic process.
  15. +1
    13 March 2020 11: 20
    Quote: Far In
    we have huge reserves of $ 750 billion, gold 2300 tons, virtually zero debt
    Fig, behold. In 2014, I remember, everything was about the same. And how we got through that crisis - do not remind me? The economy is still marking time, the population has been poorer for six years in a row. And, by the way, the population decline has also continued continuously since that time. Do you call this "preparedness for the global crisis"? Nu-nu.

    So poor that there’s nowhere to park near hypermarkets, especially on weekends.
  16. 0
    13 March 2020 11: 57
    Quote: Wadded Colorado
    So poor that there’s nowhere to park near hypermarkets, especially on weekends.

    Do you still do your hand washing? Do you write posts with a splinter? Do you live in a dugout? ... Look, I thought that I didn't need a car and gave it to my sister. Now I move either on foot or by taxi, so am I? a fat-freak "major" or a person who counts money? ... We live to make our children's life better (cynical, but true). Now let's reset the level again?
  17. 0
    13 March 2020 12: 28
    And it seems to me that the main losers are just the people of Russia ... !!!!
  18. -1
    13 March 2020 13: 30
    Quote: g1washntwn
    If thesis is:
    1. Poaching, buying, theft (not a complete list) of intellectual, material and other global resources. In a word - parasitizing to create favorable conditions for the survival of its species ("America above all!" Have you never heard of it?)
    2. see p1. (you have the same question, only the type of resource is different)
    3. Purchase of real estate - the withdrawal of looted capital, the link of their children abroad - the preparation of heirs to this withdrawn capital. The principle is simple: to steal here - to spend stolen goods elsewhere, along the way to prepare the larvae of the oligarchs so as not to disrupt the cyclic process.

    You did not understand my question. I constantly hear, to the Jankers of the khan, they have no medicine, unemployment, tens of millions of homeless people, all eat macaque in loans and are treated with plantain. How do they build aircraft carriers? Do you think the children of our deputies are building there? Why do shipbuilders go to this trash? . I constantly read here how miserable everything is in the European Union among the Jankers. And I have a question for those who write this. How do they manage to build nuclear submarines in such a situation? not the worst in the world.
  19. -5
    13 March 2020 17: 49
    Quote: Sarmat Sanych
    a skeptic, well, I didn’t even talk about the scam of some huckster, taxi drivers over there after 2010 in Domodedovo, too, the prices were broken for those who got there, God be their judge. I’m talking about prices for transport, food, gasoline, mortgage rates, taxes, housing and communal services, etc. - in general, the bulk of the costs, none of this has risen and I think the Mishustin government will control so that it does not.

  20. -1
    14 March 2020 00: 36
    President Trump called the plummeting oil prices "excellent" and ordered
    to purchase maximum oil for US strategic storage facilities to
    fill them out completely.
  21. 0
    19 March 2020 10: 35
    Quote: Sarmat Sanych
    household incomes in Russia, although slowly growing

    I don't see it point-blank. Even if nominally they grow by throwing money into public sector employees and twisting statistics in the right direction, the actual purchasing power is steadily declining. "Family budget"))) I have been conducting myself for more than one year, taking into account ALL expenses and building graphs for several indicators (but I will not show the graphs))). Expenditures are constantly growing (there was a noticeable slowdown in the years from 14 to 17), but incomes do not grow at all in the private sector (again, I do not mean a small list of private-state structures that suck from the budget).

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