Russian Foreign Ministry: The prosecution in MH17 is not even trying to adhere to the principles of justice

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The Netherlands prosecutor’s office demands that the court recognize the only version of the crash in the Donbass of the Malaysian Boeing, in which Russia is called the culprit. The Russian Foreign Ministry previously suggested that the prosecution would behave in a similar way.

Such a statement to the press was made by the official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Maria Zakharova, at a briefing held today.



The first days of the hearing were devoted to procedural issues, such as, for example, the schedule and order of meetings, the presence or absence of defendants and witnesses. Despite this, investigators, prosecutors of Western policy have fueled the hype around the trial.

Zakharova believes that the prosecution does not even try to adhere to the principles of justice and justice:

Attention was drawn to the unceremonious line of the prosecution, which openly accelerates the consideration of this case and requires the court to only formally authorize the imposed single version of the incident as soon as possible.

At the same time, the public is fueled by “horror stories” about Russian special services, which allegedly try to find witnesses in order to intimidate them and force them to tell lies.

Zakharova recalled that Russia is not even a defendant in this case:

Allegations of our country's involvement in the disaster have no foundation and are based on dubious sources.

Recall that the lawyers of the injured party intend to set up their clients to file lawsuits against the Russian Federation to pay “compensation”.
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    1. +6
      12 March 2020 19: 15
      What kind of justice? There, those responsible and sentenced were appointed long before the trial itself!
      All this comedy is needed only for the judge to pronounce the verdict.
      1. +14
        12 March 2020 19: 29
        Quote: Honest Citizen
        the guilty and sentenced appointed long before the trial itself!

        There will be no direct accusations of Russia as a state, but if the court upholds the version of the accusation, which insists on the direct influence of the Russian authorities on the actions of the defendants, we will face big troubles: relatives of the deceased may file large claims against Russia, and Western countries will demand from it admission of guilt. The process itself is used as a long-running propaganda show aimed at discrediting our country. That’s what it is about to do, and not at all to punish those responsible for the MH17 tragedy.
        1. +11
          12 March 2020 19: 47
          Quote: DMB 75
          There will be no direct charges against Russia as a state,

          But everything goes to the point that they are going to indict officials of the Russian state. And, for me, this is how our side chose not the best position in this dispute. If a part of the accused and suspects, on our part, testified to the Dutch investigators, it was necessary for everyone to do this and put forward a defense for all those accused by the Dutch side ... it would be easier to defend themselves and scatter their charges.
          1. -2
            12 March 2020 20: 09
            By the way, there is another very an interesting and plausible version of the death of the Malaysian Boeing MH-17, according to which no one shot down the plane at all.
            By the way, they have already forgotten that the Malaysian airline was in bankrupt or pre-bankrupt state or something like that.

            Journalist Alexander Malkevich, continuing a series of episodes of the crash of flight MH-17 based on the conclusions of the aviation experts of the aircraft building SE "Antonov" (Ukraine), in particular, presented his version of what happened, according to which no one shot down the plane at all. And most likely, that was exactly what he was saying. Namely.

            Moreover, more about this is set forth in the book of aviation expert Konstantin Karmanov “MN-17. Chronicle of a diving Boeing. The truth about an airplane that nobody shot down. ”

            MH-17: a plane that no one shot down (Alexander Malkevich). Mar 5 2020
          2. +1
            12 March 2020 22: 12
            This is all speculation. Because people have the right not to testify, without convincing evidence of their guilt, and this is under international law.
            1. +3
              13 March 2020 05: 12
              Who cares about international law. need a reason. need a culprit. the one who is to blame does not fit. Do not touch Ukraine. after all, they’ve been investigating for five years. will put pressure on us
        2. +2
          12 March 2020 20: 10
          I think things will go so that they will require interrogation of Russian citizens, including the military. By video link, for example
          And, if Russia agrees, they will try to draw out various details, which they will then try to use as evidence in international courts
      2. +13
        12 March 2020 19: 48
        Quote: Honest Citizen
        All this comedy is needed only for the judge to pronounce the verdict.

        And like in America, Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein was sentenced to 23 years in prison on charges of sexual assault. Only the words of the ladies, not confirmed by anything. The so-called "democratic courts" in the West have ceased to exist, the time has come for the "Court of Lynching". It didn’t end in the states. Everything is like in the joke "Today Martino Luthero Kyngo left in America. Who, whom? Who needs that and left."
        1. 0
          12 March 2020 19: 57
          When there are several tens of ladies, it has weight
          1. +1
            13 March 2020 04: 06
            Quote: Avior
            When there are several tens of ladies, it has weight

            When a lady looks so that in her hungry year for “Kamaz” dumplings it’s not like Vanstein, but some slobbery Tastein will not “flirt”, then her testimony is of paramount importance.
            1. 0
              13 March 2020 07: 31
              Yes you will not please

              Oh, what a scary :)))
              You list specifically
              have you seen these ladies?
              It is full of world-famous movie stars
              https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vokrug.tv/amp/article/show/harvi_vainshtein_62489/
              1. +1
                13 March 2020 07: 38
                Quote: Avior
                Yes you will not please

                You probably did not understand what I said. I meant that it was not the number of ladies that had weight, but that the maid’s testimony could be the most powerful argument, as was the case:
                https://topwar.ru/88799-skaz-o-tom-kak-dominik-stross-kan-gornichnoy-domogalsya.html
          2. +1
            13 March 2020 05: 54
            Well, not one of these episodes of rape does not pull. There, it is more likely to give bribes in a particularly small amount. (How much can an elite confusion sex cost?)
            1. +1
              13 March 2020 07: 34
              He was judged because of very specific episodes
              And in the testimony, not only rape, but also harassment
            2. 0
              13 March 2020 16: 24
              * giving a bribe in a particularly small amount * - well, rather, it is prostitution and payment for services by roles in films.
        2. -20
          12 March 2020 20: 32
          And like in America, Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein was sentenced to 23 years in prison on charges of sexual assault. Only the words of the ladies, not confirmed by anything. The so-called "democratic courts" in the West have ceased to exist, the time has come for the "Court of Lynching".

          It seems to us, living in a state of altered reality, that the testimony does not mean anything. In the States, everything is a little different; for them, an oath on the Bible is not an empty formality. They are well aware if they lie under oath, they sit down themselves. For a long time. So, it is unlikely that more than 80 women decided to take such a chance.
          The law is strong, but it's law.
          1. +21
            12 March 2020 21: 16
            Quote: Arzt
            for them, an oath on the Bible is not an empty formality.

            laughing laughing laughing good
            1. -12
              12 March 2020 21: 22
              for them, an oath on the Bible is not an empty formality.

              laughing laughing laughing good

              When you talk abstractly, yes, it's funny.
              Have you ever given evidence at least in our court? Even here, not everyone can lie.
              And they have, where most of the real believing Protestants, and even with draconian terms for giving false ...
              Why such a risk to 80 famous actresses? We would sit quietly ...
              1. +16
                12 March 2020 21: 29
                Quote: Arzt
                Why such a risk to 80 famous actresses?

                As for these second-hand nymphets, there is no need to lie there - it is enough to present the "adventures of youth" with the right sauce. Moreover, for this, the whole campaign was promoted.
                Two birds with one stone were killed at once: the femins were not offended, and they brushed off the uncle. Yes
                Such, itit-pound, Hollywood ... am
                1. -10
                  12 March 2020 21: 40
                  and the necessary uncle was swept away.

                  Unnecessary uncle?
                  Here, many here are sure that Jews and oligarchs rule in America. Weinstein and the Jew and the oligarch.

                  In addition, the holder of the Order of the British Empire, the Order of the Legion of Honor, heaps of all kinds of awards such as Simon Wiesenthal, a member of many academies, producer of blockbusters like Pulp Fiction and The Lord of the Rings, etc. etc.

                  Nothing helped. This is how the law should work.
                  Not like that:
                  1. -6
                    12 March 2020 21: 44
                    Quote: Arzt
                    Pinstein

                    Moreover, this figure was condemned not by a judge, but by a jury consisting of 7 men and 5 women, that is, they cannot be found in frenzied feminism.
                    1. +1
                      13 March 2020 05: 18
                      herd instinct has not been canceled. and there when the whole country goes crazy about women's rights .. when before that all famous personalities spoke out as bad. who dare to go against public opinion.
                  2. +12
                    12 March 2020 22: 01
                    Quote: Arzt
                    Unnecessary uncle?

                    Exactly what is NECESSARY. Just found MORE NEEDED. fellow
                    1. -7
                      12 March 2020 22: 06
                      Exactly what is NECESSARY. Just found MORE NEEDED.

                      Are you up to date on Hollywood intrigues? Share ...
                      1. +7
                        12 March 2020 22: 08
                        Quote: Arzt
                        Share ...

                        Yeah, and you will carry it further - so we’ll burn the whole backstage. Yes And yes, a good insider is very expensive - sometimes at the cost of life. fellow
                  3. +1
                    13 March 2020 01: 39
                    Quote: Arzt
                    Unnecessary uncle? ........ Nothing helped

                    Therefore, I had to bring it down just like that, otherwise it would not work. The next step is a bullet. So this is still humane;)
              2. +13
                12 March 2020 21: 58
                Quote: Arzt
                And they have, where most of the real believing Protestants, and even with draconian terms for giving false ...

                Tell Dominique Strauss-Kahn ..... tongue
                1. -8
                  12 March 2020 22: 04
                  Tell Dominique Strauss-Kahn.

                  And what is there to tell? There was contact. And then the matter is dark. More precisely light. We have come to an agreement.

                  In a television interview in September of that year, Strauss-Kahn acknowledged that his connection with Diallo was a moral mistake, and described the connection as “inappropriate,” but emphasized that it did not include violence, coercion, or aggression. He said that Diallo lied, and that he did not intend to negotiate with her on the civil suit she had filed against him. The lawsuit was later granted for an undisclosed amount, which was subsequently reported to be $ 1,5 million.
                  1. +8
                    12 March 2020 22: 08
                    Quote: Arzt
                    In a television interview in September of that year, Strauss-Kahn admitted that his connection with Diallo was a moral mistake,

                    So Butina, too, was forced to admit part of the charges, otherwise she would have a very decent time. So is Strauss-Kahn.
                    1. Ren
                      +1
                      13 March 2020 06: 35
                      Quote: major147
                      So Butina, too, was forced to admit part of the charges, otherwise she would have a very decent time. So is Strauss-Kahn.

                      So now, Masha Butina needs to join the #MeToo movement and report that she was persecuted in the United States due to her harsh rejection of the harassment of the prosecutor, agent, judge, Trump (of her choice). wassat
                2. -5
                  12 March 2020 22: 07
                  Quote: major147
                  Quote: Arzt
                  And they have, where most of the real believing Protestants, and even with draconian terms for giving false ...

                  Tell Dominique Strauss-Kahn ..... tongue

                  Dominic Strauss-Kahn will pay $ 6 million to Nafisatou Diallo, a maid of the Sofitel Hotel in New York, who previously accused him of rape, as part of an out-of-court settlement of the scandal, the French newspaper Le Monde reports citing sources close to Strauss-Kahn.

                  Earlier it was reported that Strauss-Kahn agreed with Diallo on an out-of-court settlement, but the terms of the agreement were not specified
              3. 0
                13 March 2020 16: 22
                Business and nothing more. Look at how the production clearing in Hollywood has changed, in which channels money has now flowed.
          2. +5
            12 March 2020 22: 03
            Well, if for the president this is an empty formality (Clinton), then why do you think that for others it means something? Altered reality is with them.
            1. -7
              12 March 2020 22: 18
              Well, if for the president this is an empty formality (Clinton)

              Clinton himself is a lawyer, so he was hooked on the definition of sexual contact, which he was given to read. There, this type of sex was not clearly defined laughing
          3. +7
            12 March 2020 22: 14
            YES normally they lie there under oath. And the Bible does not scare them.
            1. -8
              12 March 2020 22: 22
              YES normally they lie there under oath. And the Bible does not scare them.

              Maybe. But why does Angelina Jolie, Gwyneth Peltrow, and dozens of others slander the Oath on Weinstein? He gave them a ticket to life.
              1. +4
                13 March 2020 00: 05
                Quote: Arzt
                But why does Angelina Jolie, Gwyneth Peltrow, and dozens of others slander the Oath on Weinstein?

                All "stars" and "stars" from different producers received such a ticket (as from Weinstein). Protsto this someone crossed the road, from those who are more equal.
              2. +2
                13 March 2020 04: 08
                Quote: Arzt
                But why does Angelina Jolie, Gwyneth Peltrow, and dozens of others slander the Oath on Weinstein? He gave them a ticket to life.

                A contract is attached to this voucher. And there is a percentage. While the "star" is small and little-known, this is not a very large amount, it is not very annoying, and support is needed, but then ... Especially if they make an interesting offer ... Yes, in good company ...
                So nothing personal, just business;)
          4. +3
            13 March 2020 00: 00
            Quote: Arzt
            The law is strong, but it's law.

            Before the law, everyone is equal. But some are more equal. Weinstein is simply not equal enough.
          5. +2
            13 March 2020 04: 08
            Quote: Arzt
            In the States, everything is a little different; for them, an oath on the Bible is not an empty formality.

            Don’t take a damn thing ... fool Tell that Colin Powell that you shook the tube at the UN.
          6. +1
            13 March 2020 05: 16
            Are you serious . Everything is much simpler. Unfortunately . They decided to punish punished. Another idiocy. their democracy. inflection
          7. +2
            13 March 2020 13: 56
            Quote: Arzt
            for them, an oath on the Bible is not an empty formality.

            "... - And he says to me: they say, it is customary for gentlemen to take their word for it. Here, Petka, I have a map and flooded!" laughing
        3. -1
          13 March 2020 13: 52
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Everything is like in the joke "Today Martino Luthero Kyngo left in America. Who, whom? Who needs that and left."

          And what language is the joke? I would like to understand the meaning what ...
      3. +10
        12 March 2020 20: 02
        Eco is unseen - in all countries of the world, so a large half of the ships pass ... Whoever orders music is right! But stand now in Germany, Czechoslovakia, Hungary ... as before, our troops and ships would not have been any! At least knock down civilian aircraft! Therefore, if we had entered Kiev in 2014, the real guilty person would have been sitting on the dock - Poroshenko! But we are kind .... and bad!
        1. +6
          12 March 2020 21: 59
          Quote: Finches
          the real guilty person would be sitting on the dock - Poroshenko

          By the way, I shot it from the "Square" before tomorrow's arrest! good
      4. +11
        12 March 2020 20: 08
        "The prosecution in the MH17 case is not even trying to adhere to the principles of justice" - so they did not have such a goal ... the main thing is to dump. pour out a tub of dirt. and then the "dempress" will do its own thing.
      5. +1
        12 March 2020 22: 18
        Quote: Honest Citizen
        All this comedy is needed only for the judge to pronounce the verdict.
        Who is the comedy, and who remembers the film "The Verdict" with Kuravlyov ... wink
      6. +1
        12 March 2020 22: 34
        Bezler published information on fake SBU on MH17

        Igor Bezler confessed to giving oral and written testimony to the investigation before the court in The Hague, after which the Netherlands prosecutor's office rejected a fake SBU with an audio recording of the negotiations of the militia commanders about the plane near Yenakievo.

        He added that the Ukrainian intelligence service of the SBU was deceiving the investigation of the Netherlands, starting in July 2014, covering its activities with reports on CNN.

        Bezler noted that in 2014, on the air of the American CNN television channel, the Head of the Security Service Counterintelligence Department of the SBU, Vitaly Naida, showed fake photos of the Russian anti-aircraft missile systems in the Donbas. The funny thing is that the photos contained Ukrainian military equipment, and not Russian - the Ukrainian air defense system was transported on a tractor with Dnepropetrovsk numbers back in April 2014, through the Yasinovatsky traffic police post, where it was actively photographed from different angles in advance:

        Prt Scrn source: https://t.me/ibezler/225
        Prt Scrn source: https://t.me/ibezler/225
        "Are they taking these cars out of Ukraine?" - asked the correspondent. "True, they are being taken away from the territory of Ukraine," Vitaliy Naida replied. In his opinion, this is being done to "hide" military equipment. At the same time, on the screen of a CNN employee there are photographs of allegedly Russian "Buk" vehicles previously distributed by the SBU. Earlier, the same Vitaliy Naida at a briefing in Kiev shows the same slides. True, for some reason the name of this figure has been retouched. Probably a very secret pepper in the structure of the SBU, ”Bezler said.
        He added that in the left corner in the screenshot from the video the Buk air defense system is visible on the platform, and the beech itself is visible in the second video.

        “This is a video from the Yasinovatskaya junction. True, filmed in March 2014. The third video shows the same Yasinovatskaya interchange, the same BUK, but the license plates of the car from the Dnepropetrovsk region are also shown. It was to the Dnipropetrovsk region that the air defense missile systems battalions covering Lugansk and Donetsk were deployed, ”he added.
        Bezler emphasized that the Ukrainian intelligence officer is lying and does not stutter, as he demonstrates videos and photos with the Ukrainian Buk-M1 air defense system at the Yasinovatsky traffic police post in April 2014 and gives them away for July photos of Russian systems.

        “There is only one conclusion. Either Naida and the SBU are openly lying (and all this farce is for the Dutch. The SBU doesn't lie a priori: look in his honest eyes, 4 and none of them has a conscience) or - such a shitty summer was in the Donetsk region in 2014 (up to 40). With snow and frost. Or is it that the SBU, as with the conversation about the "bird and the pilots", initially sniffs out an outright lie. If Ukrainians think that this is not in the case, I can assure you there is, ”he said.
        Bezler added that there are also videos with Ukrainian “BUKs” along the front line at Ukrainian positions, where they are deployed in a fighting position.
      7. 0
        12 March 2020 22: 40
        Not before the start of the trial, but before the disaster. And the "proofs" were edited the day before, and published on YouTube two hours before.
    2. +7
      12 March 2020 19: 21
      And will there be retaliatory claims from our side? First of all, to the Dutch, on the fact of the visit to Russia, on the fact of falsification of the investigation? Can't hear the voices of our lawyers? Or, then, quietly, we will pay everything that the country will require? Why does no one defend the interests and name of Russia, even if it’s in the wrong farce, through the media, totally? How much can be terpil?
      1. 0
        12 March 2020 19: 24
        Quote: Thrifty
        Can't hear the voices of our lawyers? Or, then, quietly, we will pay everything that the country will require?

        Our lawyers are sprinkling days and nights over the amendments. Rodnina, Isinbaev, Mashkov, Klishis. Once they do all sorts of nonsense wassat
        And then, by quiet sadness, we will pay everything ... Otherwise, the assets may suffer, you yourself know who ... wassat
        1. +6
          12 March 2020 22: 33
          Quote: Honest Citizen
          Quote: Thrifty
          Can't hear the voices of our lawyers? Or, then, quietly, we will pay everything that the country will require?

          Our lawyers are sprinkling days and nights over the amendments. Rodnina, Isinbaev, Mashkov, Klishis. Once they do all sorts of nonsense wassat
          And then, by quiet sadness, we will pay everything ... Otherwise, the assets may suffer, you yourself know who ... wassat

          I agree with you, in part, that Boeing is nonsense, compared with amendments to the Constitution of Russia Yes
      2. +4
        12 March 2020 19: 42
        And will there be retaliatory claims from our side? First of all, to the Dutch, on the fact of the visit to Russia, on the fact of falsification of the investigation? Can't hear the voices of our lawyers?

        1. No.
        2. The media slander Russia, but it is so streamlined ... Only Malaysians can file a lawsuit against falsification, they entrusted the investigation.
        3. Russia is not a party to the process, why make noise?
      3. +8
        12 March 2020 19: 46
        I’m wondering, has anyone ever filed a lawsuit against the Soviet Union?
        And how the Union reacted to it. Where did he send it, and why didn’t the local bailiffs approach the property of the USSR abroad for a cannon shot?
        1. +6
          12 March 2020 19: 51
          So it was a real superpower
        2. +1
          13 March 2020 05: 21
          and filed suits and shouted in the same way. South Korean Boeing forgot something.
      4. -2
        12 March 2020 19: 54
        And let's remember whose immediate family lives in Holland and Belgium.
        And we’ll think about why their children should complicate their lives there.
        Is Russia to blame?
        Yes, let it be so.
        The main thing is that my "hut will not suffer".
        All this is disgusting.
        1. 0
          12 March 2020 22: 15
          I wonder whose? I think the darkest do not live there.
      5. 0
        12 March 2020 20: 11
        Quote: Thrifty
        Can't hear the voices of our lawyers?

        And it looks like there will be nothing but Zakharova's comments on Twitter and comments on the VO website.
    3. +5
      12 March 2020 19: 24
      Recall that the lawyers of the injured party intend to set up their clients to file lawsuits against the Russian Federation to pay “compensation”.


      So this is the second goal, there is nothing to take from Ukraine ... only it will break off all of them in full, the process will not be as "fast" as they set themselves up.
      1. +4
        12 March 2020 22: 38
        Quote: cniza
        Recall that the lawyers of the injured party intend to set up their clients to file lawsuits against the Russian Federation to pay “compensation”.


        So this is the second goal, there is nothing to take from Ukraine ... only it will break off all of them in full, the process will not be as "fast" as they set themselves up.

        Yes, to mark to the "devil" their European decision by the decision of the Tver court and the amendment to the Constitution, will just arrive in time ...
    4. +6
      12 March 2020 19: 25
      I never could have thought that Western justice is as far from JUSTICE as cannibals are from vegetarianism! And the clearest examples are the "Skripals case" and the "MH17 case" !!! Even our courts do not allow themselves such blatant nonsense !!!! Although I have always considered our justice far from ideal !!! Even the epic with doping is not so tight on the globe ...
      1. -8
        12 March 2020 19: 28
        Well, the investigation ended, and it brought the case to court. The investigation believes that Russia is to blame, why should the court consider other versions? His goal is to determine whether the evidence is sufficient to convict Russia.
        From stupid news only facespalm full negative
        1. +8
          12 March 2020 22: 45
          Quote: BlackMokona
          Well, the investigation is over

          This is not a consequence, but the mouse fuss there ended
          Quote: BlackMokona
          why should the court consider other versions?

          The court is precisely the main consequence
          Quote: BlackMokona
          His goal is to determine whether the evidence is sufficient to convict Russia.

          The purpose of the court is the administration of justice in full, including
          Quote: BlackMokona
          should the court consider other versions?
          only with an exclamation mark !!!
      2. +5
        12 March 2020 22: 17
        Do you believe in western justice? It was always like that. YES and dealing with doping is tense, be healthy, there is no evidence. But there are charges.
        1. -5
          12 March 2020 22: 49
          Do you believe in western justice?

          The oligarchs among themselves prefer to understand Western courts. Looks nowhere else to go for justice.
    5. +3
      12 March 2020 19: 28
      They do not like a strong independent Russia, so now it will be so everywhere and for a long time. Well, we’ll survive it somehow. laughing
      1. +1
        12 March 2020 19: 33
        And where is a strong independent Russia, is it the one in which the national currency depends on oil?
        1. +2
          12 March 2020 19: 42
          But who is there, who does not affect the price of oil in any way?) The Anglo-Saxons see that the Russian bear is gaining strength, and that’s it being laid around from all sides.
          1. -9
            12 March 2020 19: 57
            Yes there are other oil-dependent countries like Norway or Denmark, their currency does not fall and the price does not rise
            1. +2
              12 March 2020 20: 12
              Speaking of oil, low prices are killing shale oil production, primarily the United States, such a good competitor. I remember how in the days of the EBN that destroyed the country, we were the best friends of the Anglo-Saxons, then they applauded while standing! And who needs Norway and Denmark, if they are Anglo-Saxon satellite.
              1. -5
                12 March 2020 20: 13
                tales about the fact that shale oil has been going on for many years, but it is still there.
                1. +4
                  12 March 2020 20: 17
                  Tales are fairy tales, and yet the shale revolution will not break out and bury oil-exporting countries.
                  1. -5
                    12 March 2020 20: 41
                    oil prices are very much shale knocked .....
                    1. +2
                      12 March 2020 20: 51
                      If the shale revolution happened, as the Americans dreamed, then from an oversupply of oil, the price of oil would collapse for a long time, if not forever. And so, an artificial understatement is an agreement, plus the panic from the coronavirus = revolution is delayed again, then prices will rise again.
                      In the meantime, on the site of our manufacturer, I would seize the moment.
                      1. 0
                        12 March 2020 21: 40
                        she collapsed
                        was 140, was 40
                        1. +1
                          12 March 2020 22: 51
                          Therefore, it collapsed temporarily, so that mattresses would not be allowed into the market.
                        2. 0
                          12 March 2020 23: 02
                          they will temporarily leave, and partially, and if the price rises, they will return quickly.
                          Actually, Saudi Arabia lowered the price.
                          and for Europeans threatens to 25 to push Russia out of the European market
                        3. +1
                          13 March 2020 00: 01
                          They will definitely leave, and the price will rise, are going to come back, fall again, usually this happens.
                          Saudi Arabia together with Russia are playing a show, and the markets have long been divided, my IMHO. The Arabs will not joke, evil "Yemeni-Iranian" missiles will still arrive.
          2. -3
            12 March 2020 20: 00
            It affects everyone, but today Russia is the absolute world leader in the fall of the national currency. Not China is the main victim of the coronavirus, not the Americans, who are about to have the "end of shale oil," not Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, whose share of oil in the economy is much larger than ours. Not they, but we, enjoying the third decade of "stability".
            1. +2
              12 March 2020 20: 24
              This should encourage the development of its production. China is not just artificially lowering the yuan.
            2. +6
              12 March 2020 22: 53
              Quote: syndicalist
              It affects everyone, but today Russia is the absolute world leader in the fall of the national currency. Not China is the main victim of the coronavirus, not the Americans, who are about to have the "end of shale oil," not Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, whose share of oil in the economy is much larger than ours. Not they, but we, enjoying the third decade of "stability".

              Mournful night song crying .
              No way to sleep, and again hungry, in Russia, mother go to bed?
            3. +1
              13 March 2020 00: 41
              China also collapsed its yuan, waited a week and then bought up Western assets in its country wink China did everything according to the Russian scheme in the 14th year. Only China has a virus, and Russia has sanctions. Remember how before the war, Europe drove the whole world off money to prevent Gazprom shares from being bought up from them, but there the democracy of antitrust offices rejoiced clapping their hands. But then, on their happiness, as it later turned out to be a misfortune, pan-and-leg horses mounted on the Maidan. The pan is a necessary thing on the household, but instead of pots on the Maidan from Europe, drushlags arrived and the brains of all Europeans flowed through them from such a jar. But Valdemar meanwhile did not sleep, RUBLE collapsed, waited and bought up a full stake in Gazprom, and now Russia is a monopolist in gas supplies to Europe through the pipe, LNG does not count. When the Europeans realized that instead of pans they put drushlags, grabbed their heads but it was too late to plug holes in the drushlag. Because BABUSA from Germany nervously smokes ice cream (everyone got it right, sausage sausage and sausage), and by hook or by crook tries to drag the second string of pipes into the Federal Republic of Volkswagen to become the second exporter of blue fuel in Europe.
              So the comrades on our globe have actually canceled communism, there are only bandits left and the redistribution of property has begun, which is in the jargon of the deluge. It’s not for nothing that they seized Zelya for everything that was ordered and they demand compromising things, because of the puddles, the guys would have to stay for another term even if they’re at their own, the wrapper printing press, I don’t want to print and drink loot Yes
              And dancing with a tambourine around Nenka is soap for diverting the eyes of the people, but the people need a refrigerator with food and a mullet and a zombie creator in it, and only show who is bullying from anyone slingshots and everyone is shouting. (bread and circuses to the people).
              Sarcasm of course, but that fact is fact sad
        2. +1
          12 March 2020 20: 01
          And where is a strong independent Russia, is it the one in which the national currency depends on oil?
          What's the matter with oil ?! from Trump's tweet, the ruble is dancing. For 20 years, we have been "trying" to get off the oil needle for 20 years. This is a shame! By the way, I will not be surprised that the price of gasoline will be raised again. How is it in our country ?! Oil becomes more expensive - gasoline becomes more expensive, oil becomes cheaper - gasoline becomes more expensive.
          1. +3
            12 March 2020 20: 26
            I agree that the sale of resources is only needed to get rid of the collapse of the Union, now the army has been restored, it is necessary to raise production to the level of the USSR.
          2. -4
            12 March 2020 20: 35
            Quote: evgenii67
            For 20 years, we have been "trying" to get off the oil needle for 20 years.

            so the USSR had 8-11% of the income, and the "peeling" RF 51% ... Nitsche got off so ... glory PeZhe.
            1. +4
              12 March 2020 22: 21
              It’s not true, 39 percent of income, the USSR is about 20. Go to the Ministry of Finance’s website and there are numbers in a convenient form.
          3. +3
            12 March 2020 22: 20
            So commands are given to speculators, here is the currency and jumps. Therefore, the exchange is evil.
        3. +3
          12 March 2020 22: 18
          It doesn’t depend as much as you think. 39 percent of the budget is not addiction. Data taken from the website of the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation for 2019.
    6. +3
      12 March 2020 19: 29
      No wonder this whole clowning! Trying to blow everyone’s ears from a dead donkey ...
    7. +2
      12 March 2020 19: 34
      And why is this stoned Dutch court considers itself authoritative in the world ??? Who gave them the right to judge without irrefutable evidence of citizens of other countries? Indeed, in this way it is possible to create a court for the colonial seizure of other countries, islands and territories by the same Dutch, Spaniards and other Europeans. There are murders and the slave trade and robbery.
    8. +6
      12 March 2020 19: 36
      Interestingly, evidence of the guilt of Tehran, which accidentally shot down a Ukrainian airliner, appeared literally a few days after this crash, and with flight MH17 they have not been there for six years.
      1. 0
        12 March 2020 19: 38
        Evidence against Iran did not appear, all of our media immediately destroyed it with undeniable documents and evidence. Until Iran recognized, all TopVar and all our media clearly knew that the plane didn’t fall because of Iran’s air defense
    9. 0
      12 March 2020 19: 43
      so there was nothing to wave to the "partners".
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      1. +3
        12 March 2020 20: 02
        change your avatar and do not disgrace the ally’s coat of arms
    12. +4
      12 March 2020 19: 55
      This process will play its role as the Ambush Regiment at the Battle of Kulikovo .... Those responsible are appointed, it remains to pronounce a sentence ... and then ... Russia is the birthplace of terrorism .. sanctions, not by personalities, but economic and more severe ... and many many others...
      1. -2
        12 March 2020 20: 01
        Quote: parusnik
        annexations, not by personalities, but economic and tougher ... and much, much more ...

        purely theoretically, this is a double-edged sword, but if the Russian Federation ceases to comply in response to this patent law
      2. +1
        12 March 2020 20: 46
        Quote: parusnik
        This process will play its role as an Ambush Regiment at the Battle of Kulikovo ....

        I doubt very much that this would happen. Minke whales wanted it so much, but such processes do not last as long as this one. Everyone understands that the action was very poorly planned, and therefore failed. To assign payments you need very good reasons, which will not be. Based on a court decision, this will not be done, due to changes in our Constitution and the priority of domestic law. Ours will be able, on the basis of claims for payments, to launch their investigation together with Malaysia. As an option.
      3. +2
        12 March 2020 23: 01
        Quote: parusnik
        This process will play its role as the Ambush Regiment at the Battle of Kulikovo .... Those responsible are appointed, it remains to pronounce a sentence ... and then ... Russia is the birthplace of terrorism .. sanctions, not by personalities, but economic and more severe ... and many many others...

        You blow away a sail early. No, dear, the discovered ambush, this, for them, is already ... a trap! Yes
    13. -2
      12 March 2020 20: 00
      but I liked the witness who saw Russian soldiers near the "beech", only now I did not understand how he determined that they were Russian
      1. 0
        12 March 2020 20: 34
        Quote: Barmaleyka
        but I liked the witness who saw Russian soldiers near the "beech"

        He saw Russian soldiers near a beech! No quotes! Because beech is a tree! smile
        1. 0
          12 March 2020 20: 42
          and all the same on what grounds determined that they are Russian?
          1. -1
            12 March 2020 23: 04
            judging by what they write, by pronunciation
            1. 0
              13 March 2020 08: 08
              Quote: Avior
              judging by what they write, by pronunciation
              What is it like?! belay
              1. 0
                13 March 2020 08: 13
                Something like that
                https://weekend.rambler.ru/other/42070207-akane-ili-okanie-kakoe-proiznoshenie-poyavilos-ranshe/?article_index=0
                1. 0
                  13 March 2020 08: 34
                  do not tell anyone, I'm not sure that you can distinguish from Ryazan from Smolensk by dialect
                  1. 0
                    13 March 2020 08: 39
                    And what do they write that he distinguished precisely Ryazan from Smolensk?
                    He simply heard a pronunciation uncharacteristic of the locals.
                    However, if you are sure that in Russian there are no different pronunciations, I will not convince you.
                    hi
                    1. +1
                      13 March 2020 10: 16
                      so maybe they were from Kiev?
          2. +4
            12 March 2020 23: 04
            Quote: Barmaleyka
            and all the same on what grounds determined that they are Russian?

            Yes, it was simply written in Russian on white in the presented certificate: Colonel - Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin bully
          3. 0
            13 March 2020 10: 07
            Quote: Barmaleyka
            and all the same on what grounds determined that they are Russian?

            What a meticulous colleague you are! He determined by signs that that beech tree grew up in the Russian military unit, where foreigners, as you know, do not serve! smile
      2. 0
        12 March 2020 21: 39
        and the ambush regiment is already on military review? !!!
      3. -2
        12 March 2020 21: 41
        only now I didn’t understand how he determined that they were Russian

        How to determine? Yes, everything is simple: on the budenovki on their heads, and on the bears that ran alongside, drank vodka and each had a balalaika hanging on their backs.
    14. +1
      12 March 2020 20: 03
      Send, if you rock the boat in our direction, send even further and finally ....
      Unfortunately, this is not real! Because "our" all different, not poor, brothers, can not live without the embrace of foreign business and other parasites / partners.
    15. +1
      12 March 2020 20: 07
      The trial of the crash of MH-17 may drag on for 1,5 years. This was reported by lawyers to reporters. The fact is that the materials need to be translated into Russian for the defendants, and this is about 36 thousand sheets.
    16. 0
      12 March 2020 20: 13
      Do not judge and do not be judged.
      Which court to judge, be so and they will judge you.
      I would like to say this to the court.
    17. +3
      12 March 2020 20: 28
      The murderers gathered accomplices and organized a gangway decided to blame Russia. This is the "European values".
    18. +3
      12 March 2020 20: 31
      Recall that the lawyers of the injured party intend to set up their clients to file lawsuits against the Russian Federation to pay “compensation”.
      Well, I see no difficulties in this matter. There will simply be a reason for reviewing the case, but already by our court because to pay the claim, you need a proven justification, which the bearers will not have, due to the clearly ordered nature of the case, as well as the priority of our internal laws, thanks to amendments to our Constitution.
    19. -6
      12 March 2020 20: 45
      If the Foreign Ministry of Zakharov is not able to clearly articulate the legal jambs of the Dutch investigation, then it would be better for her to give way to the press secretary of the Ministry of Justice of the Russian Federation.
      1. +2
        12 March 2020 23: 07
        Quote: Operator
        If the Foreign Ministry of Zakharov is not able to clearly articulate the legal jambs of the Dutch investigation, then it would be better for her to give way to the press secretary of the Ministry of Justice of the Russian Federation.

        Diplomacy and foreign policy are completely different things ...
      2. -1
        13 March 2020 10: 14
        Quote: Operator
        If the Foreign Ministry of Zakharov is not able to clearly articulate the legal jambs of the Dutch investigation, then it would be better for her to give way to the press secretary of the Ministry of Justice of the Russian Federation.

        Zakharova always very accurately and specifically points out the mistakes of our foreign partners, the diplomatic corps, so she, in my opinion, is in its place. Legal jambs - not her competence. She also does not hesitate to express her opinion, but she always isolates it, which is very correct and responsible.
    20. 0
      12 March 2020 20: 52
      The MH17 prosecution party does not even try to adhere to the principles of justice
      Unexpectedly, right? Can we stop chewing snot? Oh yes, you can’t, we are committed to the procedures of democracy. Well then, in the treatment room. Pants, couch, klystir. But snot and opinion in yourself to keep forever. request
      And I am against! All your democracy is not worth it .... well, like, selling for dictatorship. In order not to see or hear about Svanidze, Pivovarov, Khlevnyuk, Prilepin, and most importantly Zhirik. angry
      Now, if you sit and try to communicate with people, then the attempts are understandable. We are building a common house.
      But there are no questions on the wrong cannibal side, not on this side, they are diligently building a PR company that we can concede, because serious consequences are possible ....
      Freeze everything. We’ll start talking when Europe returns or who else or where else .... feel
      1. 0
        13 March 2020 10: 18
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        In order not to see or hear about Svanidze, Pivovarov, Khlevnyuk, Prilepin, and most importantly Zhirik.

        And justify, colleague, why did you unload Prilepin into this liberalistic pile? Or poorly orientated in his orientation ?!
    21. 0
      12 March 2020 21: 17
      Lord, the fabricated negotiations of Bezler appeared on the network a few minutes after the fall of the Boeing. That is, they were already made in advance, just as the plane was sent to Donbass in advance, as well as no plain information about those who sent the plane and no one provides negotiations between the crew and dispatchers, etc., etc.
      Another thing is that those whom the court is trying to put the blame on, let them answer the questions of lawyers from the same Holland. So I do not understand the authorities of the Russian Federation, for a long time it would have been necessary to gather everyone, explain the situevina and fit it to the desired denominator, if suddenly something is to hide. and let the Dutch go to the Russian Federation and talk and put the minutes into the matter and let them then suffer with these confessions.
      On the other hand, again, perhaps this court should be ignored altogether and not pay attention to what is happening there.
      And so, for a long time it was necessary to smear all the accusations, moreover, there is no clear evidence whatsoever
      1. +1
        13 March 2020 10: 20
        Quote: AwaZ
        So I do not understand the authorities of the Russian Federation, for a long time it would have been necessary to gather everyone, explain the situevina and fit it to the desired denominator, if suddenly something is to hide. and let the Dutch go to the Russian Federation and talk and put the minutes into the matter and let them then suffer with these confessions.

        You have correctly described everything, but who will listen to the authorities of the Russian Federation ?! Not for that, all this bootlegger is twisted to listen to sound arguments and arguments!
    22. +1
      12 March 2020 21: 19
      Quote: Finches
      But we are kind .... and bad!

      Good GDP, we are angry from such raids on Russia.
    23. +1
      12 March 2020 21: 26
      As you know, Themis is blindfolded. For some reason, no one pays attention to the ears - and there the telephone receiver is clearly visible. Themis is an instrument of maintaining power in the hands of the elite. The power of the world elite, through a telephone receiver, fights off claims to power from an unfinished regional one. The latter, in turn, has its own Themis for subordinates in the hierarchy. This is the structure of this cruel world in which justice is the hunger of the wolf, and not the horror of the lamb.
      1. -1
        12 March 2020 22: 13
        Quote: impostor
        As you know, Themis is blindfolded.
        Are you sure? Look on the Internet for the building of the Kostroma Regional Court. Very surprised.
    24. -1
      12 March 2020 21: 38
      Vulgar farce. Will fall apart, only scoundrels can believe in it
    25. 0
      12 March 2020 21: 48
      We have already passed the law that our laws prevail over international? If not, then you need to hurry, if so - I'm glad.
    26. -1
      12 March 2020 22: 11
      On the first day, the meeting ended in 30 minutes. Now moved to March 23 ...
      Stirlitz:
      - Something they didn’t grow together there ...
    27. +7
      12 March 2020 22: 47
      the Dutch learned from the Ukrainians according to the saying "Who is to blame - the daughter-in-law, so she is not at home, nothing, her dress is hanging there" ...
    28. -1
      12 March 2020 23: 05
      Quote: cniza
      Recall that the lawyers of the injured party intend to set up their clients to file lawsuits against the Russian Federation to pay “compensation”.


      So this is the second goal, there is nothing to take from Ukraine ... only it will break off all of them in full, the process will not be as "fast" as they set themselves up.

      And if the seeds ???
    29. 0
      13 March 2020 00: 16
      Quote: Tatiana
      By the way, there is another very interesting and plausible version of the death of the Malaysian Boeing MH-17, according to which the plane was never shot down.
      By the way, they have already forgotten that the Malaysian airline was in bankrupt or pre-bankrupt state or something like that.

      Journalist Alexander Malkevich, continuing the series of issues about the crash of flight MH-17 based on the conclusions of the aviation experts of the Antonov aircraft building state enterprise (Ukraine), in particular presented his version of the incident, according to which no one shot down the plane at all. And most likely, that was exactly how it was, as he says. Namely.

      And he was already stuffed with striking elements on the ground)))
    30. 0
      13 March 2020 00: 51
      Do not vote on amendments to the Constitution, get paid on claims of the Dutch court. About ten years! feel
    31. +1
      13 March 2020 04: 08
      "Well done Masha" !!! except for the general chatter, nothing !!! They blame the state, and "we", in our own style, "express concern." No conclusions have been drawn from the Skripals case.
    32. -1
      13 March 2020 04: 11
      Everyone understands that this court is a political decision, and the task of finding the real causes of the disaster is not before it. You just need to develop a policy in which it will be possible to send in the forest all far-fetched accusations against you. You can’t always make excuses for what you didn’t do, and still receive “punishment” in the form of sanctions and other things. It's time to start showing everyone the firmness of political decisions. And not like, for example, with Turkey. That "they will not get off with tomatoes", accomplices of terrorists. Then the next day kissing, selling the S-400, and assurances of further warm relations.
    33. 0
      13 March 2020 12: 40
      I hope that the perpetrators will be identified and punished.
    34. +1
      13 March 2020 13: 16
      Zakharova recalled that Russia is not even a defendant in this case:

      Allegations of our country's involvement in the disaster have no foundation and are based on dubious sources.

      Not dubious. What doubts are there? On false sources and false witnesses. The only way!
    35. +1
      13 March 2020 16: 28
      Quote: revnagan
      Quote: tihonmarine
      Everything is like in the joke "Today Martino Luthero Kyngo left in America. Who, whom? Who needs that and left."

      And what language is the joke? I would like to understand the meaning what ...

      on which on which? In the South Russian dialect of the Russian language.
    36. +1
      13 March 2020 17: 48
      Russia really does not trust its own justice and its courts. The Hague registered court in a trumped-up case by the investigating group is everything, the Russian court is nothing. The statement by the Foreign Ministry is good, but not enough. The case against the investigation team can be opened.
    37. +1
      13 March 2020 19: 25
      Why adhere to some principles in a process where, in principle, there can be no justice? Guilty long appointed. It remains only to distort the cards.

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