Bloomberg: Indonesia refused to purchase Russian Su-35 fighters

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Bloomberg: Indonesia refused to purchase Russian Su-35 fighters

Indonesia will not buy Russian fighters, the country's authorities decided not to conclude a contract for the supply of 11 Su-35 fighters for a total of $ 1,1 billion. It is reported by Bloomberg.

According to the agency, this decision was made under pressure from the United States, which threatened Jakarta with sanctions. There is currently no confirmation of this information, no official statements have been received from the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation (FSVTS), which is negotiating with Indonesia.



It should be noted that the statement on the termination of the contract for the supply of Russian Su-35 fighters of the Indonesian Air Force is not published for the first time. Last March, it was also stated that Jakarta abandoned Russian fighters under US pressure. However, the later leadership of Indonesia denied these rumors, saying that Jakarta was quite satisfied with the military, technical and price parameters of Russian weapons. American sanctions, which frighten the Indonesian leadership for acquiring Russian aircraft, also did not affect the final decision on the already signed contract.

Earlier, the Indonesian ambassador to the Russian Federation, Mohamad Wahid Supriadi, said that technical problems that arose in Indonesia itself, which had nothing to do with American sanctions, hindered the supply of Russian aircraft to Indonesia.

However, we will not exclude the option of Indonesia's actual refusal from Russian fighters. However, you need to wait for the official statement of the Russian side.

Su-35 is a deeply upgraded super-maneuverable multi-generation fighter "4 ++", possessing almost all the signs of a fifth-generation aircraft, except for low visibility.
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    1. -3
      12 March 2020 18: 18
      Bloomberg: Indonesia refused to purchase Russian Su-35 fighters
      as ? and oil? here is a bummer ...
      1. +13
        12 March 2020 18: 24
        What is oil? We do not refuse it, because sanctions are not imposed on it. How did this gigimon get it, they do what they want and where they want. You don’t buy from these, you take atat from us differently. And there’s no escape from this campaign. And here still in the country it seems the next crisis is being planned, they did not have time to get off their knees, when they fell again.
        1. -11
          12 March 2020 18: 25
          Quote: evgenii67
          What is oil? We do not refuse it, because sanctions are not imposed on it. How did this gigimon get it, they do what they want and where they want. You don’t buy from these, you take atat from us differently. And there’s no escape from this campaign. And here still in the country it seems the next crisis is being planned, they did not have time to get off their knees, when they fell again.

          you understood correctly ...
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            1. -3
              12 March 2020 18: 37
              Quote: Malyuta
              Nevermind he didn’t understand

              so you are about the same thing, only in different languages!
              1. -18
                12 March 2020 18: 51
                Indians have seven Fridays in a week.
                Today refused. Change your mind tomorrow. The day after tomorrow they will agree, but the deal is three times smaller, and so that they are compatible with the NATO missile and the Israeli guidance system.
                1. +14
                  12 March 2020 20: 30
                  Quote: Shurik70
                  Indians have seven Fridays in a week.

                  Indians?
                  And you, I'm sorry, do not confuse Sweden with Switzerland and Austria with Australia, in the mood? belay
                  1. 0
                    12 March 2020 22: 00
                    Quote: Vasyan1971

                    Indians?
                    And you, I'm sorry, do not confuse Sweden with Switzerland and Austria with Australia, in the mood? belay

                    Oh damn ...
                    SHA-A-AMAN ... the mood is really good
                    drinks
                    Rewrite the announcement ...
                    1. 0
                      12 March 2020 23: 16
                      Quote: Shurik70
                      Oh damn ...

                      It happens! wink hi
            2. -2
              12 March 2020 18: 41
              Does someone make you buy palm oil products with a stick?
              1. +5
                12 March 2020 18: 44
                Do we have products without it? Ide?
                1. -5
                  12 March 2020 18: 50
                  The store is natural. And what is wrong ? Look what you buy and you will be happy.
                  1. +2
                    13 March 2020 03: 42
                    Quote: ZAV69
                    The store is natural. And what is wrong ? Look what you buy and you will be happy.

                    Quote: Piramidon
                    Do not hapay without looking at everything that is cheaper and you will be happy without oil.

                    If you’re so smart, why don’t you build? belay
                    If the grandmother has a pension of a little more than 8 thousand, if she spends 3 for communal services (200-room, lives alone - her husband died), if she gets 2 rubles a day for all expenses, then she takes milk for 200 rubles a liter ( in Mary Ra). And you can doldon her all day that the palm oil contained in it is harmful to the body.
                    1. +1
                      13 March 2020 16: 11
                      And who poured it (oil) into milk? Yes, part of the cream was removed from whole milk with a separator, then it was pasteurized, but no one poured oil there. Before you write with a smart look, study the subject of what you write. Oil goes to all kinds of cottage cheese, curds, butter spread, but not milk.
                2. -8
                  12 March 2020 19: 06
                  Quote: From Siberia we
                  Do we have products without it? Ide?

                  Do not hapay without looking at everything that is cheaper and you will be happy without oil.
                  1. +9
                    12 March 2020 20: 00
                    Quote: Piramidon
                    Do not hapay without looking at everything that is cheaper and you will be happy without oil.

                    And practically does not depend on the price. If you don’t take absolutely pathos brands, whose price per kilo of cheese is comparable to the price of an engine from ICBMs, visit stores where, let’s say, for dairy products without a palm tree, there are special shelves with a tag BZMZH (without milk fat substitute). Make a discovery for yourself that the price and written on the label affect the composition of the product very weakly.
                    By the way. The Council did not get cheaper cheaper in a country where there were officially only 20 million beggars, it was, and now it will be under 40 .... It sounds extremely disgusting.
                    PS
                    Although not right. Not extremely vile, but extremely vile.
                    1. -9
                      12 March 2020 20: 19
                      Palm is only in milk. Do not take milk and that's it ....
                      Quote: Lannan Shi
                      Although not right. Not extremely vile, but extremely vile.

                      No, it smacks of hypocrisy on your part
                      1. +10
                        12 March 2020 21: 36
                        Quote: ZAV69
                        Palm is only in milk. Do not take milk and that's it ....

                        In the sense? Any pastries, cookies and other such - wherever you look, almost everywhere a palm tree.
                        1. -5
                          12 March 2020 22: 31
                          In the sense? Any pastries, cookies and other such - wherever you look, almost everywhere a palm tree.

                          There is no palm in the biscuit, there is only an egg in the recipe. Fats only in shortcrust pastry. Afraid - pecks yourself.
                        2. 0
                          20 March 2020 02: 11
                          ZAV69! In baking 95-98% palm oil, including sponge cake! Where vegetable oil is simply indicated, it is also palm oil ...
                        3. -1
                          20 March 2020 02: 38
                          Quote: Nikolay3
                          In baking 95-98% palm oil

                          By volume, al by weight? Although I love - it’s some kind of liquid baking ... it’s some kind of nonsense request
                        4. 0
                          20 March 2020 17: 28
                          Quote: Nikolay3
                          including a biscuit!

                          There is no butter at all in the biscuit, egg + sugar + flour. Only form is lubricated with oil. Creamy. Give you the exact recipe or do you find it yourself?
                        5. Fat
                          +2
                          13 March 2020 08: 34
                          Quote: Voyager
                          Any pastries, cookies and other such - wherever you look, almost everywhere a palm tree.

                          Well, why, it comes across bread and pastries and pastry with other types of MARGARINE, for example with soy ... Soy is now in 2nd place after palm oil.
                        6. 0
                          13 March 2020 11: 53
                          A palm tree is everywhere! Confectionery! Semi-finished products! Sausages! In your opinion, you can say so do not eat if there is poison!? .. Do not want to eat the advertised products, do not eat! ... Wildness! You justify the ruling group-cynical and vile!
                        7. 0
                          13 March 2020 14: 07
                          Previously, the ruling group stuffed margarine into all such goods ....
                          Do you know what it is?
                    2. -3
                      12 March 2020 21: 39
                      Again howled ... already tired ..
                  2. +11
                    12 March 2020 21: 38
                    Quote: Piramidon
                    Do not hapay without looking at everything that is cheaper and you will be happy without oil.

                    Yeah, it’s good for you to live rich, you have a choice, and the teacher in the kindergarten s / n 15 thousand and two Gavrika houses, and housing and communal services in half pay and what is her choice ???
                    You this, leave your advice to yourself, do not anger the people!
                    1. -4
                      13 March 2020 00: 09
                      I realized that Malyuta is a kindergarten teacher with a salary of 15 thousand, and she really does not like palm oil. But, I want to ask her - where in Russia is 7.5 thousand housing and communal services per person, I wonder?
                      1. 0
                        13 March 2020 21: 17
                        Quote: Plyushkin
                        where in Russia housing and communal services 7.5 thousand per person, I wonder?

                        I have. I pay 900 rubles for one garbage collection.
                    2. +1
                      13 March 2020 14: 09
                      If the palm tree is removed, then dairy products will become inaccessible to the kindergarten teacher from the word "absolutely" ....
                      Do not buy - and now there is an opportunity ....
                      1. -1
                        13 March 2020 17: 23
                        The palm can be different, but you don’t understand this, you didn’t like ...
                        And yet, tell me, where are kindergarten teachers inaccessible high-quality dairy products? In Nikolaev?
                3. -1
                  13 March 2020 21: 13
                  Quote: From Siberia we
                  Ide?

                  On the nail. There is, even at a price it’s easy to distinguish if suddenly small letters merge into one Yes
              2. +11
                12 March 2020 20: 06
                Quote: ZAV69
                Does someone make you buy palm oil products with a stick?

                ====
                you have to look good so that there is no palm oil in the product
                // even if the oil itself does not appear in the list of components, this does not mean at all that it is not masked by any other definition - vegetable fat, vegetable fat substitute, palmitic acid //
                Source: https://agrarii.com/v-kakih-produktah-est-palmovoe-maslo-spisok/
                1. 0
                  13 March 2020 17: 32
                  Who are you really, Victor or Victorio? Victorio - what is this?
                  Do not be offended, but something in between. It’s normal for someone, but for me it’s not clear, is hemophroditis?
              3. +13
                12 March 2020 21: 32
                Quote: ZAV69
                Does someone make you buy palm oil products with a stick?

                With this logic, you can allow porn on TV (do not like it - don’t look), and legalize the drug trade (do not like it - don’t inject) wink
                1. -16
                  12 March 2020 21: 36
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  Quote: ZAV69
                  Does someone make you buy palm oil products with a stick?

                  With this logic, you can allow porn on TV (do not like it - don’t look), and legalize the drug trade (do not like it - don’t inject) wink

                  “Ingvar,” I have already told you that your analogies do not stand up to even minimal criticism. I have to repeat it request
                  1. +7
                    12 March 2020 21: 58
                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    Forced to repeat it

                    Make a note of ten more repetitions. Tell the curators what I allowed. wink
                    1. -4
                      12 March 2020 22: 04
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      I allowed

                      I don’t need it. And develop logic, my friend, old age will come - savsam will be late request
                  2. +1
                    13 March 2020 18: 41
                    Golovan, a question for you, as an adequate one, who captured the forum "military review"? I ask you, as one of the adequate, whom I remember ... It seems that the communists entered into an alliance with dill, no?
                    I’m watching, you’ve been completely bombarded.
                    In vain, when the Communists win, then Banderlog, then crush a small pillow!
                    The Communists do not need a second force at all! Do not believe? Remember the anarchists!
            3. +2
              12 March 2020 18: 49
              He didn’t understand a damn, he always has a litter in his head — it sounds. But the bummer is great, neither the planes did not sell, nor did they receive palm oil in exchange.
              - This is a stone in my garden. Firstly, I don’t watch TV, so the litter may sound in your head, but it’s not accurate. Secondly, well, I don’t think that our bureaucrats will refuse to buy oil in the event of a failure in the deal with the Su-35, so people will probably be poisoned further. Thirdly, what did I write wrong ??? Maybe what the United States dictates to potential buyers, to whom and what to buy, is that not true? Or is it not true that our economy is heavily dependent on oil prices (we’ve been tearing off the oil needle for 20 years, but not tearing it down) and that the crisis does not threaten us ???
              1. +4
                12 March 2020 20: 43
                There is no need for palm oil for bureaucrats. And they do not poison the people. Poison the manufacturers. There will be no palm oil to exchange for airplanes, they’ll just buy it. We will get our portion anyway.
                1. +2
                  13 March 2020 11: 56
                  I would feed the entire Garden Ring, and in particular the Kremlin, palm oil! Exclusively! I think that this is not far off! ....
              2. +6
                12 March 2020 21: 45
                Quote: evgenii67
                evgenii67 (Eugene)

                Well, don’t be angry if something is wrong, sometimes you won’t catch something in the heat ... I just thought you were a mess. hi
                1. +8
                  12 March 2020 22: 16
                  Well, don’t be angry if something is wrong, sometimes you won’t catch something in the heat ... I just thought you were a mess. hi
                  Well, for sure !!! I am so glad to increase my retirement age, I am glad to increase VAT, I am glad that Russia has not abandoned oil dependence for 20 years, the list goes on and on, and I am glad that now we will have a KING !!!! in fact, I'm not happy, but my opinion is still no one takes into account there, however, like yours.
              3. 0
                13 March 2020 14: 13
                We climbed off an oil needle for about 50 years .... For some reason .... While others are trying to climb on it ....
            4. -4
              12 March 2020 19: 24
              We will drive oil out of oil, as before! stop
              1. 0
                13 March 2020 11: 57
                It would be earlier for such a wall as a diversion! Straight - without a conversation! ...
            5. +4
              12 March 2020 20: 20
              Quote: Malyuta
              What now will the authorities feed the inhabitants, because palm oil is our everything !!!

              And what, according to your information, is oil left for a couple of days and no more? Only barter with Indonesia can save situevina? Do not pinch information, at least share with forum users, maybe we can buy it!
            6. +3
              12 March 2020 20: 27
              Quote: Malyuta

              He didn’t understand a damn, he always has a litter in his head — it sounds. But the bummer is great, neither the planes did not sell, nor did they receive palm oil in exchange.

              Or maybe because they didn’t sell it because they refused palm oil in the form of payment for planes?
            7. 0
              13 March 2020 01: 26
              yes simple. he will be bought for real money and put into the country. and it will earn someone else and not a country. its market is growing due to the chemical and perfume industry, which has consumed more than palm oil more than 40 percent this year. you do not explain that it is not only guzzled.
        2. -9
          12 March 2020 18: 28
          No one will fight with you. Take it easy. You will simply be hammered into the Stone Age and we will solve US problems in the Middle East with our soldiers. This is the whole policy of "talented managers"
          1. -4
            12 March 2020 18: 40
            Quote: From Siberia we
            No one will fight with you. Take it easy. You will simply be hammered into the Stone Age and we will solve US problems in the Middle East with our soldiers. This is the whole policy of "talented managers"

            Comrade What are you saying? Your theses cannot fit into the mind of the feral Uriah-Putriots, it’s evening. M. settled and made a nest. wassat
            1. -5
              12 March 2020 18: 43
              Malyuta, with me? warnings about the inadmissibility of utterances, to me on idiots (act of defecation). I am ashamed of the country. And sick and not smart people are everywhere. One of the moderators said to me in a personal way (act of defecation on your arguments, I will not read them) laughing
          2. +3
            12 March 2020 19: 08
            Quote: From Siberia we
            No one will fight with you. Take it easy. You will simply be hammered into the Stone Age and will be our soldiers to solve the problems of the United States in the Middle East.
            Why are you contradicting yourself? They will beat us, and we will be silent? belay And secondly, in the Stone Age is not so bad ...
            A piece of mammoth skin around a mighty waist,
            Under the arm there is a stone ax, and in the hands of a spear.

            Just do not understand, where does the US problem? She will not exist. Perhaps, like parts of the Middle East ...
        3. +3
          12 March 2020 18: 29
          Yes, the ruble at the level of banana republics to fall from the slightest fluctuations in oil and US gasoline is only getting cheaper
          1. +3
            12 March 2020 18: 36
            When they say "the barrel has fallen, Europe is in a fever", they mean something different. Imagine, you are ready to buy an apartment for 8 lamas, and suddenly the prices have dropped to 5 lamas, and according to forecasts, they may fall to 3. You will also be in a fever. Buy now and save 3, wait and grab 5? But it can jump and then what ??? The whole world (who does not produce hydrocarbons) is standing ovation for the opportunity to fill oil storage facilities with cheap oil.
            1. +8
              12 March 2020 18: 51
              Quote: From Siberia we
              Imagine you are ready to buy an apartment for 8 lyam, and suddenly prices fell to 5 lyamchik, and according to forecasts, they can fall to 3.

              Your logic is clear. It is straightforward, excuse me, in fact, everything is somewhat more complicated.
              In fact, this logic, if we attach to the apartment.
              You want to buy an apartment for 8 lyam on credit, while knowing that you will earn 8 over the next three years. Then you suddenly realize that in the next three years you will earn only 3 and you can’t buy an apartment more than 3 lyam.
              And the seller expected you to sell for 8, pay you a debt of 3, and still buy goods from you by 5. And now nobody needs the goods that you produce, and you have already paid 4 lyamas for the raw materials for them. How to give them away?
              Understood or difficult?
              1. -4
                12 March 2020 18: 55
                Not difficult but not true
                1. +3
                  12 March 2020 18: 56
                  Justify. By the way, I made small but important changes. re-read please.
                2. -1
                  12 March 2020 19: 12
                  Quote: Alexey Sommer
                  in the next three years you will earn only 3

                  The annual economic growth is stable + 3% of GDP, which means I will earn a little more. (Germany)
                  Quote: Alexey Sommer
                  the seller expected you to sell for 8
                  (Arabs)
                  But prices fell and sold only for 3. (Arabs)
                  "give you debt 3 and still buy goods from you for 5" The amount of debt can either grow or be repaid from the fund, we will buy goods on credit. (as the owner said overseas) (and the long-term prospect of destroying a competitor (Russia is Venezuela) ("when they both prices collapse, we will raise" the Arabs think) However, Venezuela will be taken over by the United States and prices will not rise above 130 otherwise partners will not understand
                  1. +5
                    12 March 2020 19: 41
                    Quote: From Siberia we
                    The annual economic growth is stable + 3% of GDP, which means I will earn a little more. (Germany)

                    Firstly not necessary.
                    Quote: From Siberia we
                    The amount of debt can either grow or be paid off from the fund. We will buy goods on credit.

                    However, the funds are not endless and loans must be given sooner or later.
                    It seems this moment has arrived.
                    European indices today fell by 11% (Germany, specifically -12,24%) of the USA by 9%, and from 20.02.2020 on average ALL indices fell from 30% to 50%, which means that approximately 30% of world money disappeared from the funds . as I understand it, 30 trillion bucks out of 100.
                    Therefore, there is nothing to take from the funds, but it’s time to give loans and it doesn’t matter that the apartment is now not 8, but 3. There is no money for it anyway.
                    1. -2
                      12 March 2020 19: 49
                      According to the Institute of Sovereign Wealth Funds (SWF), Saudi Arabia's SAMA Foreign Holdings is the third largest fund in the world, behind the UAE and Norway. Its assets amount to about 439 billion dollars. The main source of income is oil export earnings. About 65% of the fund’s investments are investments in fixed income financial instruments, about 25% are investments in stocks, and about 10% are investments in deposits.
                      And this is not the UAE fund. So with the funds they have everything ok
                      1. +9
                        12 March 2020 19: 52
                        Quote: From Siberia we
                        with a fixed income, about 25% - for investments in shares, about 10% - for investments in deposits.

                        Are you serious?) You were deceived! This is not real, such percentages are paid only in pyramids such as MMM.
                    2. -5
                      12 March 2020 19: 52
                      And about the fall of European funds: Stock indices in Western Europe are significantly reduced at the beginning of trading on Thursday amid growing concerns about the spread of coronavirus around the world. The leaders of the fall are shares of travel companies. US President Donald Trump on Wednesday decided to ban travel from Europe to the States from March 13 for the next 30 days. The restrictions will also apply to cargo transportation, the American president said in an appeal to citizens.
                      And oil prices have nothing to do with it.
                      1. +10
                        12 March 2020 19: 55
                        Do you seriously think that CRONOVIRUS with the number of cases of 120 thousand and 5 thousand dead for the entire 7 billionth world is a reason, not an occasion?
                        In the world, more from tickling per day die.
                        1. -2
                          13 March 2020 08: 13
                          Well, I'm a sane person wink China is now not bad tilt laughing
                        2. 0
                          13 March 2020 10: 01
                          Quote: From Siberia we
                          China is now not bad tilt

                          In China, yesterday indices fell by 2% in the United States by 10%. Who is standing at the elbow?)
                        3. 0
                          13 March 2020 11: 14
                          so this is just the beginning of the process! Not yet infected all 70% of the population, as predicted!
                        4. 0
                          13 March 2020 11: 16
                          Cheto in China does not even get a million infected, and already 2 months there is an epidemic RUNNING there.
                          So what?
                      2. +7
                        12 March 2020 20: 03
                        Quote: From Siberia we
                        The leaders of the fall are shares of travel companies.

                        Deutsche Bank -17% today, if that.
                        1. +7
                          12 March 2020 20: 31
                          Do not believe it, or what?))
                          I agree with your minus ..
                          already not -17%, already -18,44%
                          It looks like it will be the European Lehman Brothers.
                          For a long time everyone expects this dirty trick from them ..
                          And little will not seem to anyone .. Even those who are from Siberia!))
                          hi
            2. +4
              12 March 2020 21: 22
              Quote: From Siberia we
              The whole world (who does not produce hydrocarbons) applauds while standing,

              what "paddle" looking at their collapsed stock markets !!! wink wassat
              1. +2
                13 March 2020 00: 31
                Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                "paddle"

                "fun"!!! feel wassat
          2. +3
            12 March 2020 18: 41
            Quote: Kronos
            Yes, the ruble at the level of banana republics to fall from the slightest fluctuations in oil


            30% in one day - is this “the slightest fluctuation” for you? belay
            What is big fluctuation for you then?
            1. -2
              12 March 2020 18: 45
              The currencies of Denmark and Norway, which are largely dependent on oil, are stable.
            2. -1
              12 March 2020 18: 46
              Quote: Kurare
              Is this “the slightest hesitation” for you?

              This is a "breakthrough" for us, we are destroying the US economy. Just ask the patriots, they will explain to you how.
            3. +1
              12 March 2020 22: 21
              Quote: Kurare
              Quote: Kronos
              Yes, the ruble at the level of banana republics to fall from the slightest fluctuations in oil


              30% in one day - is this “the slightest fluctuation” for you? belay
              What is big fluctuation for you then?

              No need to write nonsense, what 30%. Where did you get these numbers?
              Stock Indexes
              Type Last Chg. Chg.% Time
              DJIA 21515.56 -2037.66 -8.65 22:16:35
              SP500 2515.99 -225.39 -8.22 22:16:35
              NASD_COMP 7300.25 -651.75 -8.20 22:16:35
              NASD100 7369.75 -636.25 -7.95 22:16:34
              FTSE100 5237.48 -639.04 -10.87 19:46:10
              DAX 9161.13 -1277.55 -12.24 19:37:36
              AEX 432.10 -52.06 -10.75 19:35:29
              CAC40 4044.26 -565.99 -12.28 19:35:29
              SMI 8270.44 -882.06 -9.64 19:30:31
              RTS 966.40 -119.78 -11.03 18:50:59
              USD_INDEX 97.46 +0.84 +0.87
              Results of the trades on 12.03.20g. (Dow, Germans and we)
              Ruble's exchange rate
              Type Bid Ask Chg. Chg.% Time
              USD/RUB 74.020 74.030 +1.413 +1.95 22:19:46
              EUR/RUB 82.731 82.751 +1.098 +1.35 22:19:43
              Forex trading in real time.
              Brent 32.81 32.84 -3.01 -8.40 22:20:51
              Light 31.17 31.20 -1.92 -5.80 22:20:50
              1. -1
                13 March 2020 12: 46
                Quote: kapitan92
                No need to write nonsense, what 30%. Where did you get these numbers?

                It's very simple:
                06.03.2020/41,28/XNUMX XNUMX USD (closing of trading)
                09.03.2020/27,34/33,8 XNUMX USD (Daily Low -XNUMX%)
                31,13 USD (closing of trading -24,6%)
                A drop in value even by almost 25% - is this not enough for you?
                1. 0
                  13 March 2020 13: 37
                  Quote: Kurare
                  A drop in value even by almost 25% - is this not enough for you?


                  30% in one day - is this “the slightest fluctuation” for you?

                  Your post!
                  1. -1
                    13 March 2020 17: 23
                    Quote: kapitan92
                    Your post!

                    Everything was lost for me, I confused the minimum with the closure of trading wassat HORRIBLE!

                    And if without sarcasm, I hope you understand the meaning. Call a price drop of 24,6% slightest hesitation, as the language does not turn. In addition, there are a lot of speculative movements in the market, which further increase the pressure on the ruble.
          3. -4
            12 March 2020 19: 09
            Quote: Kronos
            and US gas is only getting cheaper

            Well, forward to the country of unthinkable happiness. Grab your "Kalina".
            1. -14
              12 March 2020 19: 26
              Managed to be born in this country
              1. +7
                12 March 2020 20: 00
                "Ugorazdilo will be born in this country"
                Then you can hang yourself and everything will pass. I guarantee. Hindus guarantee that you will be born again, I hope in Somalia or Bangladesh.
              2. 0
                12 March 2020 21: 44
                Are you sure from the Urals ..? a scent of rotten from your writings ... I think that real Ural guys would have cleaned the snout long ago ...
              3. 0
                13 March 2020 00: 22
                Maybe it was better not to be born like that ...
              4. 0
                13 March 2020 19: 04
                Friends, he is from Siberia, as I am from Mars!
            2. +2
              12 March 2020 19: 29
              United States bombed Iraq to raise oil prices! bully
              Maybe we need to do something similar? !! request
              1. +1
                12 March 2020 22: 26
                Quote: keeper03
                United States bombed Iraq to raise oil prices! bully
                Maybe we need to do something similar? !! request

                We are not! There are Hussites for this. laughing hi
          4. +2
            13 March 2020 00: 27
            Quote: Kronos
            and US gas is only getting cheaper

            This you see directly from the Washington gas station broadcasting?
            Then what do you care about:
            Quote: Kronos
            Yes, the ruble at the level of banana republics to fall from the slightest fluctuations in oil

            You have a salary in dollars there ... feel
            laughing
        4. KCA
          0
          13 March 2020 06: 07
          How did everyone get it with palm oil, comrade, what year are you born? I, here, in 1973, have been eating cookies and cakes made with margarine all my childhood, here I don’t have a single recipe for homemade cakes without margarine, my mother and my friends all know gingerbread - to melt half a packet of margarine, but palm oil is much more an easily digestible product than hydrogenated fat of vegetable oil of other origin - sunflower, rapeseed, linseed, and even hemp, which, baking, he himself preferred to fry meat not on creamy meat, but on margarine, well, I don’t like creamy, now it’s just for salting there’s nothing, margarine, it’s officially recognized as harmful, and palm is terrible, more terrible than coronovirus and other shnyah, ebola, aphids have forgotten, more people died from ebola by a couple of orders of magnitude, although what kind of people, niggas, who will count them .. .
      2. +3
        12 March 2020 18: 35
        Quote: Aerodrome
        Bloomberg: Indonesia refused to purchase Russian Su-35 fighters
        as ? and oil? here is a bummer ...

        The Americans of Indonesia twisted their arms. And happiness was so close.
        The MiG-35 and Su-35 use the same class of ammunition and are compatible with the new R-37M hypersonic air-to-air missile. Thanks to this, they are able to shoot down aircraft at a distance of up to 400 kilometers. This missile allows Russian fighters, according to experts, to surpass all potential adversaries, since the latest Chinese and American air-to-air missiles are much slower and have a shorter range. "Sushka" is capable of carrying up to 12 missiles on external suspension, and the MiG - eight.
        Both fighters use dual-circuit engines with a three-dimensional thrust vector, which makes them super maneuverable and removes restrictions on the angle of attack. At the same time, the Su-35 has a greater working height and range.

        The Su-35 is equipped with the Irbis radar, which can detect enemy fighters for more than 400 kilometers, and stealth aircraft at a distance of over 80 kilometers. It is capable of simultaneously tracking up to 30 air targets.

        https://rg.ru/2020/02/25/raznye-roli-su-35-sravnili-s-mig-35.html
        1. 0
          12 March 2020 22: 28
          Quote: Sky Strike fighter
          The Americans of Indonesia twisted their arms. And happiness was so close.

          hi
          There is an old saying: "If the bride leaves for another, nobody knows who is lucky." smile
      3. +2
        12 March 2020 19: 56
        Vyacheslav Viktorovich Volodin was upset.
        His mother will have a hard time without Indonesian palm oil.
      4. +9
        12 March 2020 20: 57
        there is a good antidote to ... wrong decisions in Indonesia. all other articles of our export to this country should be sold for foreign currency. and let the "palm tree" be exchanged for "amerovsky" imports.
    2. 0
      12 March 2020 18: 19
      Let's see if Jakarta has enough political will to send the United States away with their rotten blackmail. ...
      1. 0
        12 March 2020 18: 32
        Does Indonesia have its own policy?
        1. 0
          12 March 2020 21: 12
          A country with a 270 million population should have.
          1. -2
            13 March 2020 08: 20
            How many people were in China when he was a colony of Britain? And the population of India?
            1. -2
              13 March 2020 08: 50
              Ok, China, along with Turkey, Iran and Thailand, has never been a colony. Indonesia is a fairly strong state.
        2. 0
          13 March 2020 19: 24
          Do you have a fundamental opinion or everything remains primitive?
          Indonesia is a state whose opinion is little dependent on others ...
          It is an independent state ...
    3. 0
      12 March 2020 18: 19
      Unverified infa ... but if it is true - nothing else can be expected from striped ears. It is impossible to withstand fair competition, so they "turn on the resource" ...
      1. +11
        12 March 2020 18: 31
        Fair competition is one of the myths of capitalism.
        1. +1
          13 March 2020 19: 29
          “There is no crime that a person would not commit for the sake of a lot of money”
      2. -6
        12 March 2020 18: 31
        Someone (mountain shooter) no longer likes "unfair" competition. laughing They will all die soon, and we will go to heaven !!! Their economy will collapse, all homosexuals and kirdyk will be overwhelmed. Three hundred years left and that's it!
      3. +1
        12 March 2020 18: 42
        Free market, they said ....
        Already just want to bang and let them
      4. +11
        12 March 2020 18: 46
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        but if it is true, nothing else can be expected from striped ears. It is impossible to withstand fair competition, so they "turn on the resource" ...

        I have a question, but where is our resource, the one about which I have been told for the 21st year already?
        It seems that they rose from their knees and became great, but there is no resource?
        Or maybe we are still lying? After all, the vital interests of shift workers are outside the Russian Federation ...
        1. +3
          12 March 2020 18: 51
          Malyuta !!! Do not say heresy !!! How dare you doubt the genius of our ruling party? laughing
          1. 0
            13 March 2020 12: 11
            Quote: From Siberia we

            Malyuta !!! Do not say heresy !!! How dare you doubt the genius of our ruling party?

            You could believe in your sincere feelings if you had not read all your previous posts ...
            You are more like a resentful Gaster (of which in Siberia too) from unfathomable ...
          2. +1
            13 March 2020 18: 21
            You are the same from Siberia as I am from Mars!
        2. +3
          12 March 2020 19: 08
          Resources are just power on the course and ordinary people do not care
      5. -1
        12 March 2020 19: 17
        Palm dairy producers may not take palm oil in Indonesia.
        Because there is a chance to buy it (which Indonesia will pay for the F-16) from the Yankees cheaper.
        - will show "solidarity";
        - Another deflection in front of holders of savings:
        - they will buy the product cheaper than from the manufacturer.
      6. +2
        12 March 2020 21: 31
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        nothing else can be expected from the strip-eared.

        nuuuuu ... Indonesia also showed itself in this situation, to put it mildly, not quite beautifully !! wassat
      7. +2
        13 March 2020 03: 55
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        It is impossible to withstand fair competition, so they "turn on the resource" ...

        Yes you are a GENIUS !!! fellow Not from the Judo Club, by any chance? belay
        Tell us, please, about places on the planet where, with the absence of socialism, fair competition has arisen? The ChWP and the Law of the Coop are the main distinguishing features of the capitalist system. Although, I am 100% sure, because of palm oil, the capitalist will not climb the scaffold ...
    4. +6
      12 March 2020 18: 27
      Well, not bad. Fewer of our grandchildren will be born with damage to the central nervous system and brain. And for jeans with Jakarta we will pay with birch oil - tar.
    5. +1
      12 March 2020 18: 28
      According to the agency, this decision was made under pressure from the United States, which threatened Jakarta with sanctions.
      Have Indonesia’s sanctions on US oil supplies not worked out?
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      1. -2
        12 March 2020 18: 38
        And here are the figurines! on this our "comrades from the entourage" make an excellent gesheft !!
    7. +3
      12 March 2020 18: 38
      Judging by
      However, you need to wait for the official statement of the Russian side.
      It’s not clear what this is about. request ... And we are already breaking "spears" about oil and about managers and about oil
    8. -1
      12 March 2020 18: 43
      Quote: Terenin
      Judging by
      However, you need to wait for the official statement of the Russian side.
      It’s not clear what this is about. request ... And we are already breaking "spears" about oil and about managers and about oil

      Managers now have no time for penny contracts. All their pain - how to adequately celebrate Dnyuha Ilyich
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      1. +2
        12 March 2020 18: 49
        Quote: Ministerium für Staatssicherheit
        Let's ban Mozambique, Congo, Uganda, Sudan ... in a word, all our friends are banned from buying airplanes

        Well, they can only buy them jointly and with your money. Beggars are your friends. And then they urinated on your inhibitions. These are your "friends"
      2. 0
        12 March 2020 18: 55
        There are such "friends" that there is nothing left to forgive debts except for kissing.)
      3. -1
        12 March 2020 18: 59
        Prohibit the purchase of F-35 fighters from the Americans!
        Let's ban Mozambique, Congo, Uganda, Sudan ... in a word, all our friends are banned from buying airplanes !!!

        I did not know that Germany has so many friends.
        1. -4
          12 March 2020 19: 19
          Quote: Sky Strike fighter
          I didn’t know that Germany has so many friends

          Germany does not have as many African Africans as friends laughing
      4. 0
        12 March 2020 19: 31
        Quote: Ministerium für Staatssicherheit
        Prohibit the purchase of F-35 fighters from the Americans!
        Let's ban Mozambique, Congo, Uganda, Sudan ... in a word, all our friends are banned from buying airplanes !!!

        these "friends" of the United States will not sell these planes at an exorbitant price.
        If it was sarcasm - then appreciated)
      5. 0
        13 March 2020 00: 25
        Fu only occupied FSA countries take and they can not get out.
    10. +1
      12 March 2020 18: 58
      But what about the "free market", about which mattress makers so zealously repeat from all the stands?
      1. -2
        12 March 2020 19: 18
        Quote: DominickS
        What about the "free market"

        Have you already become a "white man"? The market is for equals. You are a remote controlled colonial republic. Uryakalki which all can not take off the blinders of their importance.
        1. +1
          12 March 2020 19: 40
          Is Israel equal or is it also colonial? I remember that the Yankees once forbade them to produce "Lavi", I'm not talking about selling something without the permission of the hegemon.
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            1. 0
              12 March 2020 20: 07
              Clearly - a colony. But Americans cannot forbid Russia to produce or sell anything. But to forbid your vassals and puppets to buy from Russia or sell goods of interest to her is easy. These are the things, Shurik.
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        2. 0
          13 March 2020 01: 29
          You are not from Siberia dude. What is there, they said, rocking more intensively to throw Putin off?
    11. 0
      12 March 2020 19: 18
      3,14ndossky competition
      1. 0
        12 March 2020 19: 24
        Quote: Prjanik
        3,14ndossky competition

        No, this is a white man’s market! You give us gold, we give you beads. You accumulate gold, but your brains did not reach the beads. You can certainly teach, but why? You savages and so good.
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          1. 0
            12 March 2020 19: 30
            Beads, namely beads. How many planes will she buy? And who will fight for? But let me remind you of the American Indian wars. Gold beads can be traded with the Indians only (for example, England) and others cannot !!! And England was happy to sell rusty muskets
            1. 0
              12 March 2020 19: 35
              It turns out that Indonesia Indians, that is, under the external control of the Americans, but did not show to the mind)
              1. -1
                12 March 2020 19: 38
                In what year did they declare independence? And then, did not all of Europe begin to get rid of the direct control of the colonies?
                1. +2
                  12 March 2020 19: 54
                  By and large, not many countries can boast of independence and pursue policies in their national interests. All of them are considered the terrible enemies of democracy: Russia, China, Iran, North Korea. Well, and even smaller countries, unable to give a military rebuff, but supported like Venezuela, Syria, Cuba, Nicaragua and so on. There are those who are partners for everyone, such as India, Egypt, Algeria, Vietnam, Turkey and so on. So Indonesia, it seemed to me, from this category ..
        2. +2
          12 March 2020 19: 27
          And the Su-35 is gold or beads?)
    12. +3
      12 March 2020 19: 33
      Quote: From Siberia we
      Someone (mountain shooter) no longer likes "unfair" competition. laughing They will all die soon, and we will go to heaven !!! Their economy will collapse, all homosexuals and kirdyk will be overwhelmed. Three hundred years left and that's it!

      Interesting, dear, are you from Siberia or from Siberia? Enlighten the dark non-Russian ...
      1. +6
        12 March 2020 19: 35
        In principle, you can not take a steam bath. The answer is found. I quote: "You are a colonial republic with a remote control." Puncture, cyberyak))))))))
        1. -2
          12 March 2020 19: 54
          Everyone understands how he wants
          1. +4
            12 March 2020 19: 58
            But what is there to understand? "I also have Newton's binomial")))))) Adios, amigo! Good mood and a delicious hamburger with Coca-Cola!))))
            1. 0
              13 March 2020 01: 31
              In connection with dissatisfaction intensify the buildup.
      2. -5
        12 March 2020 19: 39
        Quote: AK pacifist
        Enlighten the dark non-Russian ...

        not smart learn, only spoil.
        1. +3
          12 March 2020 19: 41
          So where do we knock on a kiboard, cyber?
          1. -4
            12 March 2020 19: 42
            From Rasseyushka Alyosha, from Rasseyushka.
            1. +3
              12 March 2020 19: 53
              Oh, Sasha ... I’m not Russian myself, but I don’t feel the Russian spirit in you either))) Maybe from Rashenka, on the glorious river Hudson (Hudson)?
              1. +4
                12 March 2020 22: 24
                His sidekick Malyuta from Nikolaev Bandera. This one is also thinking from there.
    13. -3
      12 March 2020 19: 33
      Quote: evgenii67
      And there’s no escape from this campaign.

      As soon as our patrols and convoys begin to ram the Americans blocking the passage, and the accompanying helicopters open fire for warning, then we will begin to leave Mersky under the heel, and nothing else. It all starts small.
    14. -1
      12 March 2020 19: 39
      According to the agency, this decision was made under pressure from the United States, which threatened Jakarta with sanctions.

      Heh, just recently wrote that they did not agree on currency issues, or did I become completely sclerosic?
    15. +1
      12 March 2020 19: 43
      The invisible hand of the market in all its glory laughing
    16. -5
      12 March 2020 19: 53
      Quote: Alexey Sommer
      loans must be given sooner or later

      Well, the United States is not in a hurry. As well as Europe.
    17. +1
      12 March 2020 20: 00
      Wimps .....
    18. +2
      12 March 2020 20: 24
      Quote: Victorio
      you have to look good so that there is no palm oil in the product

      What to look for them? We go into the nearest magnet and see: potatoes, onions, carrots, salt, sugar, flour, buckwheat, rice, chicken from the nearest poultry farm. Where is the palm tree? What, from this you can not cook dinner?
      1. +1
        12 March 2020 20: 30
        Quote: ZAV69
        We go into the nearest magnet and see: potatoes, onions, carrots, salt, sugar, flour, buckwheat, rice, chicken from the nearest poultry farm. Where is the palm tree?

        And what about chicken? Why, when I fry it, almost half of the water or jelly flows out? Palm? Yes, look in oil. How much does ice cream cost, you know?
        1. 0
          13 March 2020 16: 25
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          And what about chicken? Why, when I fry it, almost half of the water or jelly flows out?

          We sell the products of the Volovskaya Poultry Factory. And nothing comes out, you want to fry, you want to bake, you want pilaf, don't do it.
          1. -1
            13 March 2020 16: 29
            Quote: ZAV69
            And neither of which follows, you want the heat, you want to bake, you want to do not do pilaf.

            Sure? Something I have not seen for a long time.
            1. -1
              13 March 2020 16: 43
              Sure of course. We have two main suppliers in our city: Tula Broiler and My Family (Volovskaya Poultry Factory). The broiler has disappeared recently, and there are always volovsk chickens in Magnit, Lika (local network) and Pyaterochka. Fish .... more water than fish, I don't take it. And chicken regularly. In general, as I understand it, in different regions everything is different. Well, we have it.
              ps. I live in the district center, there is a market, local farmers cut and sell the animal. If there is a desire, then you can buy a carcass of a pig, when you fill up, scorch and butcher.
        2. 0
          13 March 2020 16: 33
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          And what about chicken? Why, when I fry it, almost half of the water or jelly flows out?

          You just do not know how to cook them (c). In the original, it is true - about cats, but still (again "c") smile
          1. -1
            13 March 2020 16: 39
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            You just don’t know how to cook them

            There is no bad meat, there are bad cooks ...
            But when I fry the chicken, I quietly goof ... What kind of garbage jelly-like from them follows?
            1. -1
              13 March 2020 16: 42
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              when I fry chicken, then quietly goof ...

              I don’t know where you get them from. That in the attack, that in the Five with me - I have never come across such a thing.

              Or maybe it's just bad luck? recourse
              1. -1
                13 March 2020 16: 46
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                I have - I have never come across this.

                Ugh, damn it burned! As I will fry, I take a picture of spices and then lay out. feel
                1. +1
                  13 March 2020 16: 50
                  Quote: Mordvin 3
                  As I will fry, I take a picture of spices and then lay out

                  Vladimir, I believe you. But this does not cancel my hypothesis - with chickens you are just fatally unlucky laughing
                  1. -1
                    13 March 2020 16: 54
                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    with chickens you are just fatally unlucky

                    Yeah, not only not lucky for me, but also to the thousands of others that buy similar chickens in five. request
    19. +1
      12 March 2020 20: 29
      Quote: ZAV69
      Palm tree is only in milk

      in a pastry shop throughout.
      1. -1
        13 March 2020 01: 32
        And even more so in the western confectionery, learn the materiel.
    20. 0
      12 March 2020 21: 15
      "... technical problems that have arisen in Indonesia itself, which have nothing to do with US sanctions, interfere ..." Whatever it is, but they pocketed us a lot! negative
    21. -1
      12 March 2020 21: 27
      "adopted under pressure from the United States" - who would doubt it. The United States is to blame for all the bad things that happen to Russia.
    22. 0
      12 March 2020 21: 29
      And why are planes so expensive at 100 million. It is more expensive than the American F-16.
      1. 0
        12 March 2020 21: 35
        This price includes training pilots, trinazers, rockets, training technicians
    23. +3
      12 March 2020 21: 34
      I read the comments and think, people, do you hate your country or power?
      1. 0
        12 March 2020 21: 46
        Many country.
        1. -1
          13 March 2020 01: 33
          But some of them are Ipsoshniki Siberians.
    24. -4
      12 March 2020 21: 45
      Quote: Lannan Shi
      Quote: Piramidon
      Do not hapay without looking at everything that is cheaper and you will be happy without oil.

      And practically does not depend on the price. If you don’t take absolutely pathos brands, whose price per kilo of cheese is comparable to the price of an engine from ICBMs, visit stores where, let’s say, for dairy products without a palm tree, there are special shelves with a tag BZMZH (without milk fat substitute). Make a discovery for yourself that the price and written on the label affect the composition of the product very weakly.
      By the way. The Council did not get cheaper cheaper in a country where there were officially only 20 million beggars, it was, and now it will be under 40 .... It sounds extremely disgusting.
      PS
      Although not right. Not extremely vile, but extremely vile.

      Take care of the matter. Not to goner concerts, but to his farm. And do the present. They believe that they will not take a bastard, like those who will take for good loot. That will be happiness. Or weaned? Then eat the oil industry.
    25. -2
      12 March 2020 21: 45
      The United States needs to take away the dollar and then we will see the real capabilities of the US military-industrial complex. And so ... a sharpie at the table among suckers.
    26. +3
      12 March 2020 21: 59
      The sanctions were not imposed yesterday and this is not the first bummer, it was just that this particular case became known. What did everyone expect? We are not the USSR, there is no attractive ideology for export and a block of states sufficient to form a market for our products. A young country of wild capitalism with a mediocre leadership who does not see beyond its nose. Over the years of independence, we have not built an attractive country for others, albeit a capitalist one, but attractive, where the rule of law, comfortable conditions for business and life, etc. would be realized. Who needs our outrageous oligarchs and the authorities who raised them in their own image and likeness? - to anyone. They tried to put pressure on us, they showed us that we are really weak, there was an era of good oil prices, that they did not plunder and "mastered" leading EU countries, but we are poor against the background of many countries much less than us.
      Crap one’s with gas, crap one’s with oil, crap one’s in foreign policy - the result is logical ...

      Hooray to patriots with bedsores from the couch, you can only advise the option of a preventive strike against the USA - there is no USA, there are no sanctions laughing
    27. +6
      12 March 2020 22: 03
      Quote: From Siberia we
      Managed to be born in this country

      "... Shtirlitsa was uncontrollably throwing up to his homeland" ... Imagine what this country thinks: "It made me happy to give birth to this ...."
      1. -1
        12 March 2020 22: 06
        Quote: AK pacifist
        I managed to give birth to this ...

        Inspired: the country needs heroes ... and then indecent laughing
        1. +3
          12 March 2020 22: 09
          I agree one hundred percent! Cyberyak post, cents are dripping)))))
    28. -4
      12 March 2020 22: 12
      Ooh, well, all the guys, soon the cheese-like product and the MOPOCO liquid will be only on coupons, without the Indonesian palm tree.
    29. 0
      13 March 2020 02: 07
      the minimike doesn’t appease, and the majority here is led, the minimike is your future)
    30. 0
      13 March 2020 06: 59
      Here I look komenty - you damn what?! - The topic is purely political, but a little bit - it was scratched cleanly.
    31. 0
      13 March 2020 08: 04
      They bought them for cash, they didn’t see ours bartering with them for barter, they gave us PALM oil, we gave them airplanes ... not a big loss, let them eat their own oil.
      1. 0
        13 March 2020 11: 58
        We are eating palm oil! ...
    32. 0
      13 March 2020 09: 24
      The Lord is with them, that's just what they pay am for their planes, probably for the F-16
    33. -1
      13 March 2020 11: 49
      Already and for a palm tree can not be sold! Why can't the RF Air Force transfer it? And in general, during the reign of Putin, fighters, attack aircraft, interceptors were reduced from 2500 units to ... 1005 units! What are these achievements? Ahh? What kind of "patriotism" is flourishing so not healthy? The first thing to think about is defense!

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