We will not be like writing denunciations in 1937


I wrote many times about the memory of the people. The memory that even contrary to our political views and preferences today makes us bow our heads to the mass graves of the soldiers of the Great Patriotic War, to the Eternal Flame, to memorials created on the borders of defense.


When people bring flowers to the monument to the fallen in the fight against fascism, no one asks them about party affiliation, nationality or religion. In front of the grave of a war soldier are their descendants. They stand, paying tribute to their feat, their dedication, their heroism. They are the descendants of the Red Army and ordinary, red commanders and officers, brigade commanders, commanders, commanders and generals.

Folk memory is different


We often recall our grandfathers on the eve of Victory Day. We are proud to say that my grandfather was a simple infantryman (tanker, artilleryman, pilot, partisan, etc.). In general, there are no heroic professions in a war. Although war veterans sometimes say that they didn’t do anything special in the war, we know very well that military awards weren’t just given.

It is in modern films that soldiers and officers are hung with awards, like Christmas trees with toys, and in war, the awards were really given for the cause. A medal for the defense, capture or liberation of any city was expensive. As a recognition of the merits of a soldier. As a sign of belonging to a particular caste of soldiers.

I remember the soldiers of the Patriotic War not as old as old, but as full of strength by 50-55-year-old men. And then the first question at the meeting was: "On which front did you fight?" And awarded the same medals "For the capture ..." met as close friends. Although they saw each other for the first time.

But there is another memory. A memory that they prefer not to recall or talk about at all. Have you ever seen veterans of firing squads or their descendants who destroyed traitors, alarmists, spies? Have you seen the veterans of the barrage squads? Maybe you saw those who wrote denunciations to colleagues? Who informed "whoever needs it" about anti-Soviet conversations among comfrey, about a newspaper that was put into a clue with a photograph of the leader? But it was! Memory, she is. I remember here, I don’t remember ...

Do you know why we prefer not to talk about these fighters and commanders who did a terrible but necessary job? Yes, simply because then they went into battle in the general chain of fighters and died there. We didn’t go to the warm barracks to rest, but crawled to the first line, to zero, to go on the attack with everyone. And they got their medals in the same way as the rest.

I want to report on the enemy of the people ...


No, I'm not talking about the Great Patriotic War. I'm talking about the 2020th year. And not in the trenches on the front line, but in our capital, in Moscow. It was there that bedbugs had already wound up again. It is there, I repeat, once again called upon to report “where should” about the enemies of the people. Moreover, the most interesting thing is that they suggest not reporting on spies and saboteurs, but on those who have their own opinions on issues stories. In particular, now, about the history of the war.

We are again being called upon nationwide to draw up "shooting lists of enemies of the people." True, they have not yet called for the application of the highest measure of social protection. Yes, and the lists are called so far only "black lists". Moreover, according to Izvestia reporters, the Moscow Bureau of Human Rights offers us recommendations on their creation! The head of the Human Rights Bureau, a member of the HRC, Alexander Brod, personally voiced the report.

Quote from the report of Alexander Brod, which contains this very recommendation to the relevant departments and the Russian parliament:

Go to the compilation of "black lists" of politicians, historians who have stained themselves with the rehabilitation of Nazism, attacks on the Red Army and the USSR during the Second World War. Conduct a detailed inventory of memorial sites and memorials to Soviet soldiers.
Compose a “red book” of monuments and memorials, as well as intensify the development of joint resolutions condemning racism, xenophobia, propaganda of nationalism, Nazism, Holocaust denial, and intensify criminal prosecution of vandals. ”

How many times have I seen these lists of “enemies of the people” / For any reason. From any public or even some kind of "left" organization. The list of people whom any “honest patriot” is simply obliged to despise. Throw stones at them and smear the doors of their apartments with feces. State and law are for others. For the enemies of the people, only national anger and popular revenge!

How "people" make lists


I recalled the Moscow lists of August 2011. For most readers living far from Moscow, at this time, no serious events seem to have happened. Only Muscovites remember the epic with the construction of a new highway Moscow - St. Petersburg through the Khimki forest.

It was then that activists (a familiar word, right?) Of the movement in defense of the Khimki forest called on Russians to draw up “black lists of people acting to the detriment of Russian citizens and in violation of the law.” Anyone who wants to should publish their list on accessible Internet sites and publicize it in public promotions. Corruption must “find a face”!

And after all has found. People with pleasure began to point to corrupt officials. Moreover, no one considered it necessary to prove their guilt. “I said so, then it is so!” Offhand, I’ll give only a list of “Moscow corrupt officials” who did not sleep at night, considering how to destroy the Khimki forest. Naturally, they did not think about the direct route, according to activists. I call the posts of “corrupt officials” at that time.

So, then Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, Minister of Transport of the Russian Federation Igor Levitin, Chairman of the State Duma Committee on Natural Resources, Environmental Management and Ecology Natalya Komarova, Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Sergey Ivanov, Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation Yuri Chaika, Minister of Natural Resources and Ecology of the Russian Federation Yuri Trutnev , judge of the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation Nikolai Romanenkov, governor of the Moscow Region Boris Gromov, head of the administration of the city of Fr. Khimki Vladimir Strelchenko and many others. By the way, in St. Petersburg they also made up such a list. Naturally, the head of the corrupt team was Valentina Matvienko, backed by a whole group of prosecutors and police officers.

Or another example. Many readers remember the famous list of “enemies of the people” from culture, compiled in 2014 by Moscow lawyer Anton Sorvachev. This list was called quite loudly: "The black list of Nazi support in Ukraine." To be honest, I would not give a hand to those people who are listed. I really disgust Nazism, I disgust what is happening in Ukraine. But even more disgusting are our fellow citizens who openly support this.

Okay, Andrey Makarevich or Anatoly Pashinin. One carries nonsense, the second went to kill the Republicans. But you must admit, Sobchak, who became an “enemy of the people” only because she publicly asked Putin to deprive her of Russian citizenship, or Natasha Koroleva, who was visited by fellow countrymen who turned out to be Maidan activists, look somewhat ridiculous.

I was especially struck by our “enemy”, the famous Noize MC rapper. Imagine performing in Lviv under the Ukrainian flag. Well, this is nonsense. You can forgive. But the performance at the festival "Kuban" can not be forgiven. Imagine, I wanted to say something about Ukraine there, but they turned off the microphone. So he stripped naked and continued to perform naked!

But there is still Rotaru, who did not want to become a citizen of Russia, there is Volochkova, for whom “Crimea is not Russia”, there is a stylist Zverev who went to Kiev on the “Maidan” to see ... Now a simple question: why was this list compiled? So I hate them? Well, what happens if I hate them? Five years passed, and they stuck out every holiday on the screen of my TV, and stick out. And I won’t go to their concerts, regardless of whether this artist is on the lists or not. I have a different criterion: like - not like.

Why patriots become radicals


You did not pay attention to how easy it is to manipulate patriots? How easy is it to slide from patriotism to radical patriotism? How imperceptibly for yourself to suddenly discover that you are already in the camp of enemies?

Those boys and girls who go to unauthorized rallies and rallies against the power and state system of Russia, in fact, feel like patriots. They really are for Russia. They want to build a state of happiness. And they don’t understand why even their parents don’t understand them. Why do they call them names in every possible way.

What is radical patriotism? Alas, with a similar name, it has nothing to do with patriotism. Just because it is based on protest moods. And what is the protest mood? This is nothing more than dissatisfaction with something, resentment at something. If you like, this is a kind of inferiority complex. Why do I live like this, but here it is in a different way.

And then what happens to us is successfully demonstrated, for example, by Alexey Navalny. Youth patriotism, public mood, it successfully transforms into the mood of the crowd. What does the crowd want? The crowd wants a leader. The crowd wants a "strong hand" that will restore order. Cohesion, if you will, the solidarity of the crowd is in no way connected with the people and the country. She is destructive.

To understand that the barrel was honey, you need to throw a spoonful of tar there


What Alexander Brod demonstrated to us is precisely radical patriotism. After all, the report does have "honey." Quite correct and understandable to everyone thoughts:

“With the help of discrediting the USSR, equating communism with fascism and Nazism, the memory of the Second World War is supplanted by the myth of the great victory of the collective West in it, where historical Russia is clearly regarded as a side of evil. As a result, the allegation of the illegality of taking her place as a permanent member of the UN Security Council. ”

Someone will argue with this statement? We have repeatedly written about this and discussed on the forums. If we discard the nuances, it was precisely this point of view that was upheld by the majority. Returning to the beginning of the material, we note: we are the descendants of the winners. We feel like winners. And this feeling cannot be taken away from us.

“The closer the anniversary of the Victory, the more often we record cases of distortion of historical memory and vandalism. Politicians from Central and Eastern Europe, primarily Poland, the Czech Republic, Ukraine, and the Baltic states, are fighting the Victory symbols most consistently. ”

And you can’t argue with this statement. Alas, under the banner of democracy and worship of the West, the descendants of those with whom our grandfathers fought came to power in these states. Descendants of Bandera, forest brothers, the Home Army and others ... Yes, most of the population of these countries is reformatted. Yes, many hate us. Just because we are winners, and they, even with all the economic and other achievements, are defeated. Complex wimp who saw a wounded strongman ...

It is not necessary to beat for conversations, it is necessary to beat for deeds. But conversations must be answered by conversations. The worst weapon true for liars. We have already seen this recently. When the president of Russia told the truth about some events in Poland. The truth with documents and eyewitness accounts.

It is not worth compiling “black lists”, “execution lists”, lists of unreliable and others. There is a state. There is a law. There are bodies that are required to do this. If they can’t cope, then you need to change them. For some reason, we got used to the fact that elections are always wrong, officials are always corrupt, businessmen are always thieves, and so on. And why? Who, then, are those who select or appoint them?

Maybe it’s worthwhile to remain people, and not become the descendants of those who once wrote several million denunciations to the NKVD in the prewar years?
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  1. carstorm 11 13 March 2020 06: 32 New
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    unfortunately this is one of those features of people that is present in any system in our country. and personally, I don’t digest it organically. and I agree with the author one hundred percent. I have to beat for the cause. against or beliefs must be fought but in your own words and beliefs. and not rudeness and outright bullying without evidence.
    1. Finches 13 March 2020 07: 02 New
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      But "lists of enemies of the people" with the prospect of the highest measure of social responsibility for the sake of the revival of the country would not hurt! There are no denunciations here - Number one - Mikhail Gorbachev, number two - Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin (the case is being examined in a higher court), number three - Anatoly Borisovich Chubais ... laughing
      1. Basil50 13 March 2020 07: 42 New
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        The author simply insists that those who break the law by conviction are already beyond jurisdiction.
        Criminals have convictions allowing them any abomination.
        You will not believe the Nazis also had beliefs.
        In Europe, too, there are * pan-European beliefs * voiced by M. Thatcher.
        And what about these beliefs?
        1. domokl 13 March 2020 08: 33 New
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          Quote: Vasily50
          The author simply insists that those who break the law by conviction are already beyond jurisdiction.

          Show me where it is said? It's not about those who have transgressed the law, for them we have created so many bodies, and the punishment under the law is provided. It's about those who simply have different beliefs and are not afraid to say it openly.
          1. Lopatov 13 March 2020 09: 02 New
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            Quote: domokl
            It's not about those who have transgressed the law, for them we have created so many bodies, and the punishment under the law is provided.

            All right.
            How these bodies will punish the initiators and signatories of the European Parliament resolution on equating communism with Nazism.
          2. BAI
            BAI 13 March 2020 09: 41 New
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            I have a question for the author, not a lot off topic, and not as the author, but as the moderator of the site - Why was the article by A. Privalov removed from the site yesterday? Came in and out?
          3. mikh-korsakov 13 March 2020 11: 49 New
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            comrade Staver. I would agree with you all. But here's the thing. There is a reaction of our authorities to evil attacks - attacks of whom you yourself indicated. What else confuses me is whether the official position of our authorities provokes the outgrowth of patriots into radical patriots. In short, the official position looks like this. We see the fury of unbridled liars, we understand what goals they pursue. We will not allow them to slander our country and its feat by the fact that we will bring the truth about the war. The question arises - to convey to which social strata? I understand that we are talking primarily about Russian youth. I agree that in our masses our youth shares our views, they are successfully working with them in their masses. Then to whom to convey the truth. To the slanderers themselves? useless. Before the peoples of our ex-brothers, it’s almost impossible. because our opponents made sure that the people did not hear this truth. Statements of certain honest people in the West do not count - this is not the mainstream - I'm sorry, I could not immediately pick up a Russian synonym. What do we see next. Polish authorities jumped out of their pants to discredit the contribution. The same authorities requested permission to visit the crash site of the Polish plane, and arrogantly added that the presence of our authorities is not required. We allowed, explaining this by the fact that let them (the Poles) be ashamed. How shoud I understand this? Involuntarily, it becomes embarrassing for us from such a toothless position. As I am sure, the patriots of the USSR once felt ashamed when they sometimes saw excessive, albeit ostentatious German-Soviet freaks. Diplomacy is good. but pragmatism also has limits at the intersection of which it smells bad.
            1. Honest Citizen 13 March 2020 12: 05 New
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              Michael.
              Observing our power through the prism of Ukraine (I will explain why below), I am more and more convinced that patriots are not needed. Authorities need obedient radicals. The technology of mass duping of the population, which was applied in Ukraine and proved to be excellent - and now 90% consider Russia an aggressor country, and it will now be applied in Russia.
              Our government does not need healthy criticism and satire (how many programs and TV programs do we have, where, to one degree or another, they humor the authorities?), Our authorities require biorobots. And now she will take care of the creation of just such. And the radicals - this is a fully managed community. So that on the go-ahead, crowds of people (Maidan) took to the streets, shouting “Kamenev’s trial”, “We demand to shoot” in righteous anger.
              So you didn’t think so - it’s already going on.
          4. Olgovich 13 March 2020 12: 41 New
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            Quote: domokl
            It's about those who simply have different beliefs and are not afraid to say it openly.

            Denial of the Russian Crimea, I think, is contrary to the law.

            A naked rapper on stage is also against the law.

            And I just did not go to Makarevich, and precisely because he was just disgusting to me after 2014
        2. Basil50 13 March 2020 09: 59 New
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          In addition
          In Europe, the rules for tracking neighbors are quite formal. There denunciations are * an act of patriotism *.
          In Europe, legislation requires loyalty to the state, including from professional criminals. Such a system of relationships has been debugged there for centuries. Dissenters are simply killed either by criminals or by some kind of * accident *.
          The howl * of human rights defenders * about * two million denunciations * are nothing more than outright lies. They tried to try on the reality of the Europeans to the SOVIET UNION.
          In the SOVIET UNION there were many who were opposed to something. They put him under the COURT for what he had done, about planting * for a joke * frank LIES. But in Belgium and in England, the criminal article * for unpatriotic * is fully valid and it provides for a prison term in addition to the fine.
      2. Ingvar 72 13 March 2020 07: 52 New
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        Quote: Finches
        number three - Anatoly Borisovich Chubais ...

        So it will reach Putin! wink
        According to the article -
        Why patriots become radicals
        Yes, because speaking of justice, one comes across the deathly silence of those who must follow justice. All attempts to achieve this are broken up by the financial interests of those in power. It is checked repeatedly on personal experience.
        1. Malyuta 13 March 2020 08: 16 New
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          Quote: Ingvar 72
          So it will reach Putin! According to the article -

          Of course it will, hence the series of laws on non-jurisdiction and the first in this series is just about guarantees of ebn.
          This scum was not only not condemned, but also the monuments were placed in the form of ebony centers, on budget, by the way, money, and the president is pleased to open such serpentariums.
      3. Paul Siebert 13 March 2020 08: 44 New
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        What is happening in Russia is flowers!
        Not far from us is a country where the "witch hunt" has been going on for six years.
        On Independent officially there are lists of unreliable. Lists of "enemies of the people." Destroyable first.
        Knock on neighbors, colleagues, acquaintances.
        Closed TV channels, Internet sites, newspapers. Editions of books are being destroyed.
        It the author does not care?
        Or does he sympathize with this country?
      4. aybolyt678 13 March 2020 09: 21 New
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        Quote: Finches
        number three - Anatoly Borisovich Chubais ...

        and then the whole Duma structure - ENEMIES OF THE PEOPLE with different epaulets
        1. Nasrat 13 March 2020 09: 33 New
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          God forbid, our country will live up to denunciations, anonymous denunciations that are accepted by the authorities, they are given the move and used by the authorities in their interests. God forbid our country live to denounce a son to his father, to his brother and so on ... how lego will slide down to this ...
          1. Nasrat 13 March 2020 09: 46 New
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            The authorities will always take advantage of the denunciation in their interests, no one should have any illusions about this, that this is done for the good of the people:

            1. atos_kin 13 March 2020 12: 36 New
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              No need to produce fakes.
  2. rocket757 13 March 2020 06: 40 New
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    Someone "vaccinated" from denunciations at school, in two and still where they did NOT !!!
    "The first whip to the scammer !!!" - That was the correct slogan.
    And so ... small people, small, but dirty deeds!
  3. bessmertniy 13 March 2020 06: 47 New
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    Around the enemies of the people, simply the fear of God! negative This is probably overkill. no But I thought: “And who are our friends of the people !?” He puffed, puffed, and could not remember. request
    1. Sergey Olegovich 13 March 2020 08: 21 New
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      Quote: bessmertniy
      could not remember

      And do not remember, because they are not. There are those who are hiding under the guise of “friends” of the people, but there are currently no real friends.
      1. bessmertniy 13 March 2020 08: 26 New
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        In the past, too, they are somehow not visible. request All that remains is to hope for the future - that they will appear and life will improve. winked
      2. rich 14 March 2020 06: 34 New
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        Here is such a curious brochure I have. By the way, its author is of the same opinion as you, Sergey Olegovich yes
    2. Victor N 13 March 2020 10: 31 New
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      And there are no flowers on ferns .... But you are looking, looking.
    3. Alexey RA 13 March 2020 12: 17 New
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      Quote: bessmertniy
      "And who are our friends of the people !?" He puffed, puffed, and could not remember.

      "Friends of the people" are the enemies of the people hiding under the sheep's clothing. smile
      Classic will not lie:
      What are the "friends of the people" and how do they fight against the Social Democrats?
      © VIL
  4. Ross xnumx 13 March 2020 06: 50 New
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    You have written so much, Mr. Staver:
    Maybe it’s worthwhile to remain people, and not become the descendants of those who once wrote several million denunciations to the NKVD in the prewar years?

    And they didn’t bother to identify the difference between the denunciations that signed the “anonymous” and the usual testimony (statements), where they put both the surname with the initials and the signature.
    And, still, your reasoning:
    People with pleasure began to point to corrupt officials.

    They look like the rehabilitation of corrupt officials who eat up the last root crop without salt, and the people who “slander” them simply get mad with fat ...
    1. carstorm 11 13 March 2020 06: 58 New
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      there is a difference between a witness who saw himself and a man who did not see but thinks so. This is all pronounced for example in VO. a lot of rudeness and accusations to those who do not agree with your beliefs. while people do not know each other but simply react to the post.
      1. The popuas 13 March 2020 07: 15 New
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        According to the official’s salary and expenses, everything is clearly visible .... no need
        1. carstorm 11 13 March 2020 08: 05 New
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          not only deputies receive and spend much.
          1. The popuas 13 March 2020 12: 12 New
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            Stupid .... repeat getting a lot and spending a lot is one thing, but getting a little and spending a lot is another ...
      2. Ross xnumx 13 March 2020 07: 24 New
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        Quote: carstorm 11
        there is a difference between a witness who saw himself and a man who did not see but thinks so.

        Do you argue here. Take a classic example - Chubais Anatoly Borisovich. There is not a single witness who will confirm that he personally took all the “Volga” on vouchers ... No one even knows which side he touched the current guarantor in his youth, that the latter still appreciates him ... Unbeknownst to him and the role in the initialization of the 1998 crisis ... RAO UES ... Sayano-Shushenskaya hydroelectric power station ... RUSNANO ... BUT !!! stop I am most inclined to believe that of the three sentences:
        - “forgive and release”;
        - "chop off the head";
        - "And who drew the gallows?"
        people, having thought and having weighed everything, will choose ... wassat first option...
        1. carstorm 11 13 March 2020 07: 33 New
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          the conversation is not about odious personalities, but about everyone in a row. no matter how I like the people that are discussed in the article as an example, I don’t want to poison them. Well, Makarevich drives well and let. his people will punish with their feet just ignoring his concerts. or Sobchak has long been the heroine of jokes. Well, I don’t want that in my country there would be something similar to a Ukrainian site where enemies are celebrated. it's disgusting and most importantly stupid.
          1. Sergey Olegovich 13 March 2020 08: 29 New
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            Quote: carstorm 11
            it's disgusting and most importantly stupid.

            Forgive and stupid to forgive Makarevich and Co. for their hatred of the people. It’s disgusting and stupid to allow Makarevich and Co. to travel abroad and pour mud on our country and people. It’s disgusting and stupid not to touch Chubais and Gorbachev, allowing them to be free.
            1. domokl 13 March 2020 08: 41 New
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              Quote: Sergey Olegovich
              Forgive and stupid forgiveness

              Punish by law if they break the law. or is your or my opinion enough to punish? Gorbachev the traitor who ruined the USSR. So what? If he violated the law, we will demand extradition through Interpol. Or did not break? just a bastard, because I decided so.
              Will it be okay?
              1. Sergey Olegovich 13 March 2020 09: 34 New
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                Quote: domokl
                Punish by law

                Would have the right, punished.
                Quote: domokl
                if they have broken the law.

                That is, in your opinion, they did not violate the law?
                Quote: domokl
                enough of your or my opinion to punish

                People’s opinions would be enough, all sorts of corrupt officials, bribe takers, and others would have long since passed away.
                Quote: domokl
                Will it be okay?

                It will be normal when they all answer according to the law. Why they are not touched, it is better to ask the authorities. hi
                1. Victor N 13 March 2020 10: 48 New
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                  The “people's opinion” destroyed many remarkable personalities in history, for example, Socrates. Now the “opinion of the children” is driving peers to suicide. Therefore, for the prosecution under the Law, irrefutable evidence is needed. The decisions of major managers on complex problems are always risky, nature guarantees are not provided, and therefore their assessments are ambiguous.
              2. Ingvar 72 13 March 2020 09: 36 New
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                Quote: domokl
                If he violated the law, we will demand extradition through Interpol. Or did not break?

                Sasha, don’t you know that they write laws for themselves. Yes, and if there are those laws by which they can be imposed, then the principle "The law does not draw" has not been canceled. hi
              3. Honest Citizen 13 March 2020 11: 09 New
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                Punish by law if they break the law.

                The article on high treason has already been canceled? I have not heard.
            2. carstorm 11 13 March 2020 10: 07 New
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              hate, like love, are personal feelings. how can one be punished for this? only the same feeling for them. but I'm talking about bullying and not feelings. why she I do not know. allow ride? But how can a person be banned? if so, then it will not stop on one of them. prohibit one then another and then what? take an exam for the love of the homeland to be allowed to go somewhere? according to the latter I agree. here I have no contradictions with you.
        2. BAI
          BAI 13 March 2020 09: 23 New
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          No one even knows how sideways he touched the current guarantor in his youth, that the latter still appreciates him

          What does “what side” mean?
          1. Victor N 13 March 2020 10: 51 New
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            And what does this photograph prove? Nothing!
    2. domokl 13 March 2020 08: 38 New
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      Quote: ROSS 42
      And they didn’t bother to identify the difference between the denunciations that signed the “anonymous” and the usual testimony (statements), where they put both the surname with the initials and the signature.

      Oh really? and those who in the NKVD reported on their comrades did not subscribe? Arrested anonymous yes? witnesses that a person does not happen bad. There are witnesses to the crime. And crimes are punishable by law. This madam who asked the president to take her citizenship broke the law? Or will we again be judged in accordance with revolutionary justice?
  5. Anatole Klim 13 March 2020 07: 00 New
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    You did not pay attention to how easy it is to manipulate patriots? How easy is it to slide from patriotism to radical patriotism? How imperceptibly for yourself to suddenly discover that you are already in the camp of enemies?

    I watched a remarkable video yesterday — a speech by Maria Prusakova, leader of the Communist Party faction in the Altai Territorial Legislative Assembly, and after reading the article I ask myself the question, am I a patriot or a radical? because I agree with the deputy, maybe she is manipulating me? Look, I advise.
    1. The popuas 13 March 2020 07: 14 New
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      Maria well done, she’s cutting the truth, be healthy! good good good That's just me, somehow scared for her! Not one language did not turn to express their opinion, only continuous "approvals" .. sickly brothers, sick ....
    2. Ross xnumx 13 March 2020 07: 29 New
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      Quote: Anatole Klim
      I watched a remarkable video yesterday - a speech by Maria Prusakova, leader of the Communist Party faction in the Altai Regional Legislative Assembly

      good
      And I saw that the Communist Party faction in the State Duma refrained from adopting Mishustin’s program ... belay
      How does the place of residence still change the mentality ...
      1. Sergey Olegovich 13 March 2020 08: 31 New
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        Quote: ROSS 42
        Communist Party faction in the State Duma abstained in the adoption of the program Mishustina.

        They generally became some kind of restraint.
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          They generally became some kind of restraint.

          Steel? They have always been like that - remember at least 1996.
          1. Okolotochny 13 March 2020 13: 14 New
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            Well then, they did not abstain, they just TRUKHANULI.
    3. kot28.ru 13 March 2020 07: 38 New
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      Well done girl. Unfortunately, most deputies think and do things differently.
    4. Victor N 13 March 2020 11: 05 New
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      Well, the young lady outlined her personal opinion, maybe she convinced someone and the whole village of Gadyukino will not go to vote. And she could submit her proposals, including through her party. That would be more constructive.
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      The link does not open. Weird
  6. Vladimir_2U 13 March 2020 07: 04 New
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    It is not worth compiling “black lists”, “execution lists”, lists of unreliable and others. There is a state. There is a law. There are bodies that are required to do this.
    Just note the author of the article, the so-called The firing lists consisted mainly of citizens who had already “noted” in bad.
    1. Victor N 13 March 2020 11: 12 New
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      And has everything been proven? In a court? Do not bother: the tribunals and triples. Therefore, the attitude to these processes as criminal repressions will continue forever, and the participants and their descendants will be despised.
      1. Vladimir_2U 13 March 2020 11: 22 New
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        And has everything been proven? In a court?
        No, it has not been proven.
        The order approved the composition of triples and general provisions. It was explained which categories of citizens are subject to repression, as well as their number. There were two categories in total. The first category included all the kulaks, criminals, and other anti-Soviet elements. They were subject to immediate arrest and upon consideration of their cases to be shot. The second category included increasingly less active, but still hostile elements. They were subject to arrest and imprisonment in the ITL for a term of 8 to 10 years. In addition, under the jurisdiction of the triples, those who were at that time under investigation also fell under the jurisdiction, if a court decision had not yet been issued in respect of them. Also, persons who are in camps and labor villages, but continue to commit crimes and counter-revolutionary activities.
        But, for example, an activist like Tsapka would have been leaned against the wall without flinching in his face, and in general after the 37th year the number of serious crimes had fallen sharply. Although innocently convicted were, unfortunately, as indeed now.
  7. Uncle lee 13 March 2020 07: 08 New
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    we are winners
  8. Mitroha 13 March 2020 07: 11 New
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    I am against "denunciation." But now I do not understand, now I need to love fellow citizens, for example, who supported the regime in Ukraine and after the events in Odessa. Do I need to talk to them? Or silently listen to them?
    But aren't these or the same people “having their own opinion” in, God forbid, the war will stand in line for those who want to work as a police officer and they will not be silent, like their predecessors in the Second World War, but will be happy to inform and hand over our relatives and just people. And here is a plant of the solanaceous family at the full snout.
    1. domokl 13 March 2020 08: 51 New
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      But now I do not understand, now I need to love fellow citizens, for example, who supported the regime in Ukraine and after the events in Odessa. Do I need to talk to them? Or silently listen to them?

      They supported coming out with weapons in their hands to protect the Nazis? If so, then the question I think is being removed. Who will come to us with a sword .. and further down the text.
      But they simply expressed their opinion. expressed in words! And you have nothing to hide these words? If so, whose truth is stronger? Yours, supported simply by fists or them, which, for all its abomination, did not find verbal counterarguments in you. They are words, and you are a bullet?
      1. Mitroha 13 March 2020 09: 09 New
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        And you, I will not need an interlocutor. You invent it yourself - answer it yourself. Where did you see in my post about fists, bullets and lack of words?
        "-They supported coming out in arms to defend the Nazis?" -
        And without weapons, in your opinion, can and should the fascists be supported?
      2. alekc75 13 March 2020 11: 39 New
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        the author, tell me, and who was brought to justice for the words for which there are articles in yk ??? so the lists need to be compiled and let at least a few be brought to the answer, and then it will be seen what kind of power it is and how the law obeys!
    2. Victor N 13 March 2020 11: 16 New
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      ... and we will always divide people into our own and enemies. It is inevitable, like a change of seasons ...
      1. rich 14 March 2020 06: 44 New
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        I agree with you. Some cause sympathy, others - antipathy, others - are indifferent. This is human nature.
  9. Ross xnumx 13 March 2020 07: 11 New
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    It is not worth compiling “black lists”, “execution lists”, lists of unreliable and others.

    But keeping records is simply necessary. And then some eventually become “forgetful”, and do not remember what they said and where they were in the autumn of 1993 ...
    There is a state. There is a law.

    The state that came to power as a result of the criminal revolution? A law that spins not like a drawbar, but like a propeller of a windmill?
    There are bodies that are required to do this. If they can’t cope, then you need to change them.

    There are bodies, and they are obliged to do this ... And if they do not want to cope? If they like the fight not against crime, but against a law-abiding population that has lost its freedom and rights?
    For some reason, we got used to the fact that elections are always wrong, officials are always corrupt, businessmen are always thieves, and so on. And why?

    We are not used to it. This is how the elections are arranged. Vote - do not vote, you will still get Putin or ... Putin or ... "Edro".

    And the civil service system is not focused on serving the people, but on protecting the uniform of the party, which put these officials in the "feeding trough". Hence the swagger, and cynicism, and nobility in relation to "carriers of power."
    Who, then, are those who select or appoint them?

    Guess the five letters ... belay I can only say that the letter “n” is not at the beginning of the word, but vice versa ...
    hi
    1. Boris55 13 March 2020 07: 48 New
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      Quote: ROSS 42
      Guess the Five Letters

      No need to guess, you need to know:

      "State policy and management in a crowd-elite society is an agreement reached on the possibilities of various clan-corporate groups in using the state structure and system to achieve their narrowly corporate goals."

      Behind the visible representatives of the clans in power (Putin, Medvedev), are the clans who nominated them for these posts. From a change in the surname of one or another representative of them in the visible power, the clan’s politics (poly - a lot, tick - interests) will not change.
      1. domokl 13 March 2020 08: 53 New
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        Quote: Boris55
        Behind the visible representatives of the clans in power (Putin, Medvedev), are the clans who nominated them for these posts. From a change in the surname of one or another representative of them in the visible power, the clan’s politics (poly - a lot, tick - interests) will not change.

        Classic. I won’t even comment. Now add here the "punishing sword of the revolution" from the indignant people and there will be a complete oil painting.
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          Quote: domokl
          Now add here the "punishing sword of revolution"

          If by the sword we mean the sword of knowledge, then I am only for it. As "devastation begins in the minds", so the creation of all good things begins the same there.
    2. Victor N 13 March 2020 11: 23 New
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      Justify how to replace the election? There are no other mechanisms, so you need, as far as possible, to achieve clear work.
  10. kalibr 13 March 2020 09: 02 New
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    Alexander always writes well, what about the prospects of small arms, what about “this”! Well done!
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    It is not worth compiling “black lists”, “execution lists”, lists of unreliable and others. There is a state. There is a law. There are bodies that are required to do this.

    Which state? What is the law? This week, Mr. Volodin from the TV screen said: "And those who voted against these amendments (to the constitution) should remember that they will be taken in pencil and active citizens will ask them why they voted against."
    The following conclusions can be drawn from this unprecedented demonstration of stupidity and arrogance:
    1. There is a public call for reprisal against those who are objectionable.
    2. There is no secret of voting.
    3. There are public forces under the control of the state, ready to play the role of "death squads" (or hunweibins).
  12. lucul 13 March 2020 09: 31 New
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    How many times have I seen these lists of “enemies of the people” / For any reason. From any public or even some kind of "left" organization. The list of people whom any “honest patriot” is simply obliged to despise. Throw stones at them and smear the doors of their apartments with feces. State and law are for others. For the enemies of the people, only national anger and popular revenge!

    Author - any two-edged sword.
    You are aware that the White Book was instituted in the USSR in response to the crimes of the Nazis. With your approach, as I understand it, they had to be “understood, forgiven” and not put lists on them, motivating this by the fact that an innocent could get there.
    No, lists are needed (of course, not firing lists) so that people feel responsible for their actions, it’s another thing that they must be carefully verified, as with the Nazis ..
    1. domokl 14 March 2020 08: 40 New
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      the White Book was instituted in the USSR in response to the crimes of the Nazis.

      This is not with my approach. This is with your understanding, excuse me. Your words "in response to crime"? Now the question is, what crimes were committed by people who expressed their point of view? If it is fundamentally the opposite of mine or yours. are they automatically criminals? And if they committed a crime, then why is no one convicted according to the laws? You say that they are friends of power? So why?
      1. lucul 14 March 2020 12: 10 New
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        Now the question is, what crimes were committed by people who expressed their point of view? If it is fundamentally the opposite of mine or yours. are they automatically criminals? And if they committed a crime, then why is no one convicted according to the laws? You say that they are friends of power? So why?

        The difference is that these words can be said in the kitchen, in friendly conversation, etc.
        And a completely different meaning - when these words are spoken to the public, with the aim of influencing the masses. That is, in fact, a person performs the functions of a foreign agent. Throughout mmra, there is such a practice - since you are a foreign agent - you can freely criticize the government (you have such a job), but the trouble is that ours categorically do not want to accept the status of a foreign agent, although they are sitting on foreign contentment. It is extremely important for them to gain confidence, to get their boyfriend’s status on the board. As soon as we solve issues about a foreign agency (legally), then these debates about denunciations will not be needed ...
  13. nikvic46 13 March 2020 09: 35 New
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    The topic of repression and denunciations cannot be avoided or circumvented. In 1966 at the training camp, they began to call us to the police officer one by one. I asked my friend what it was about, he said with a grin, they treated him with cigarettes. The whole conversation came down to the fact that I should knock on comrades, on outpost commanders. It was as if slopping over me. I refused. "Well, if they will destroy the Soviet power?" "Then of course." At the outpost, he did not come to me. But once he came ... The scammers are still in use. One influential person in a "secret" reports that he was told by his friend, also a well-known person. And for some reason he will not say good. This is just meanness.
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      The topic of repression and denunciations cannot be circumvented or circumvented.

      --------------------------------
      And it’s not only not “circumvented”, it has been exploited for 100% for more than half a century. How many magazines on this topic have made a career! It is necessary, after all, not simply: "he said," "I refused." Readers do not really care what you "felt" to yourself there. and how it doused you. The trick is what logical conclusions are drawn from these conversations .........
      MEANING IS NOT FEELINGS, IT IS LOGIC.
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  15. IL-64 13 March 2020 10: 55 New
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    You know, the author wrote denunciations for various reasons. Once, as a teenager, I asked my grandfather, a very famous person, how he managed to survive the repressions of the late 30s and early 50s. Because, in my opinion, it should not. I will give his answer verbatim.
    - In the 30s, probably just lucky. Nobody envied, did not want to get my position, my apartment. And in the 50s Kurchatov “covered up”, who did not give his nuclear scientists to the rink of repression.
    1. domokl 14 March 2020 08: 44 New
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      Why are you doing this? I also had a grandfather, lived in the USSR and even studied there. What did you mean by that? What denunciations is it good or bad?
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        And this is the simple truth about how it was. And if you in my post do not find the answer to your question, then I am sorry for you
  16. Xenofont 13 March 2020 11: 45 New
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    It is strange that we need to be reminded that the lack of a proper reaction to the legal and illegal activities of all guardians of freedom and democracy will lead our country into a much more terrible state than the same "boredom". Terrible things are sometimes done slowly and quietly, corrupting and weakening young generations with systematic destructive work: broadcasting on social networks, from departments of institutes and all kinds of gatherings under the auspices of NGOs. And at some point the “soil” will turn into a swamp (remember Bolotnaya?), Where nothing can “grow”.
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    Author:
    Alexander Staver
    What Alexander Brod demonstrated to us is precisely radical patriotism.

    I think that you are mistaken, because this is an ordinary crook and a rogue, and he was never a patriot of Russia, and even more so radical. I am tormented by doubts - why do you popularize this scumbag, what is the secret meaning of your message.
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      I am tormented by doubts - why do you popularize this scumbag, what is the secret meaning of your message.

      And you read the comments and understand everything. Most of you do not even suspect what you know about Broad. And perceives everything at face value ...
      Actually, I thought about something else. Why, for example, in street conflicts, when you start to sort out with the participants, patriots act on both sides. I have never personally met someone who would say that he wants to destroy Russia. I saw it on TV, but not in life. Muzzles snarl at each other patriots for the good of the motherland ... Why? I found an answer for myself, but for most readers the question remained in the Terra incognita category
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    Lists are ... subtle.

    Let me remind you that officials in the Khimki Forest case won anyway. 2-0 in their favor. Or more.
    Those. One killed and one badly crippled (maybe more, did not follow) activist against unharmed honest-honest officials from all sorts of lists.

    And how the lists affected, for example, the Member of the Pridentian Commission Svanidze, Sobchak, Serdyukov,
    Mutko, Medvedev, Gromov and the rest?
    You do not.

    And the lists where Makarevich, Shevchuk, Navalny, Puchkov, Zhukov, Semin - probably already compiled ..
    green, whip, pipes waiting in the wings
  19. Operator 13 March 2020 14: 05 New
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    Damn, according to the logic of the author of the article, Sobchachka, Makaronchik and other local banderlogs who brazenly violate the law banning the denial of the Russian identity of the Crimea, come out with yellow flag blocs of the murderers at a demonstration in central Moscow, are Russian patriots, and all who oppose them are extremists and scammers (the latter should also include Internet resources that conveyed to Russian citizens videos of all the obscene tricks of banderlogs).

    And this crap is seriously published on VO.
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    Denunciations are a double-edged sword. And with them it is bad and without them it is sometimes impossible.
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    Try not to be like the executed traitors ...
  22. eklmn 13 March 2020 16: 17 New
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    “And then what happens, for example, Alexey Navalny, successfully demonstrates to us. Youth patriotism, public mood, he successfully transforms into the mood of the crowd. What does the crowd want? The crowd wants a leader. ”
    Alexander, the author of the article, began “for health”, and finished “for peace.”
    “The crowd” does not want a leader, Sasha !!! The “crowd” wants to be heard !!! "The crowd" wants to be considered with her opinion !!!!
    Even before your birth, there was a wonderful film in the USSR “Let's Live Until Monday”, where one of the main characters said about happiness: “Happiness is when you are understood.”
    Today's “crowd” is tired of one thought throughout the country, as it was in the USSR, today's “crowd” wants to have “pluralism of thoughts and opinions”! But, as in the USSR, one thought / opinion of one person is imposed on the people of Russia and this “crowd” just does not suit. You, Alexander, even opposed the lists, but you did not disclose the reasons for the “lists”, because you yourself support a person who cannot tolerate “pluralism” and who created the system when “pluralism” is criminally punished. So your call to “not create lists” of pure water is hypocrisy.
  23. Bobr 13 March 2020 18: 35 New
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    Quote: Spade
    Quote: domokl
    It's not about those who have transgressed the law, for them we have created so many bodies, and the punishment under the law is provided.

    All right.
    How these bodies will punish the initiators and signatories of the European Parliament resolution on equating communism with Nazism.

    And why punish them? Tea is not the 37th. If you punish those who do not like the Communists, then you need to punish the rest - not lovers of liberals, democrats and hell knows what else ...
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    Generally correct, but rather chaotic article. Yes, I agree, stigmatizing (often excessively and undeservedly), making lists of objectionable, of course, is not worth it. But it is not worth it to keep silent and not respond to loud Russophobic antics and insults of some VERY arrogant types and types broadcasting on behalf of a people that did not give them the right to do so. EVERY person has the right to speak out about UNFair accusations of his Motherland, his state and his people. In adequate form, of course.
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    You know. I honestly sometimes look at what officials in the country do to us, and apart from the concept of wrecking or betrayal, there is no other definition. For example, they started the process of destruction of chemical weapons, then they decided this whole structure, and there entered the Institute of Chemical Chemical Bacteria in Saratov, SEVEN regiments of Russian Chemical Chemical Safety Laboratory laboratories, etc., to liquidate, and after all they planned to create a service on the chemical chemical base of the country on its basis. But the swine flu epidemic stopped and everything was eliminated, after the destruction of CW. After all, there is no money, but you hold on. By the way, the Americans kept 30% of chemical agents, just in case. And how much of this happens in the country. If an official cannot fill his pocket, he won’t do anything, it’s sad, but it’s a fact. As long as we have this “elite” will have property, accounts, families, court servants abroad, etc. and we will live in a semi-colony position. After all, if IT is forbidden, they say no one will work. Everyone has arrived.