Israel demonstrated new air defense missile defense systems

In Israel, the development of three new laser systems designed for missile and air defense has been completed. This year their field trials will begin.

Work on the creation of this equipment is carried out by the Arms Development Authority (MAPAT), which is part of the Israeli defense department, with the participation of Rafael and Elbit. Dozens or even hundreds of millions of dollars have already been invested in new products.

In total, three systems have been created, each of which includes an electric laser with a power of up to 100 kW.

The first system is designed for ground-based and will complement the Iron Dome. It is much cheaper than this missile defense, but ineffective in bad weather. Its main task is to change the "economy of war" so that the cost of interception is much lower than a launched missile.

It is with this system that in the summer of 2020, field trials will begin, which will then continue in a combat situation in the Gaza Strip, possibly already at the end of this year. The other two systems will begin to be tested later.

The second system will be installed on trucks or armored personnel carriers. It, as an air defense system, will protect ground units from shelling in a radius of 3-4 kilometers.

Hercules heavy transport aircraft will be equipped with a third system. She will be engaged in intercepting missiles above the line of clouds.

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[knn54]

indeed, if only the weather didn’t let us down ...

[iouris]

Over the whole of Spain, a cloudless sky ...

[neri73-r]

Quote: iouris

Over the whole of Spain, a cloudless sky ...

Tovarisch, do not shoot the hut !!!! Why password on air!

[For example]

Dozens have already been invested in new items, and toi hundreds of millions of dollars.

SOI remember.
TOI I don’t remember

[For example]

Need new shells.
To fly in a cloud of smoke.

Or just smoke in the wind.

[For example]

The second system will be installed on trucks or armored personnel carriers. It, as an air defense system, will protect ground units from shelling in a radius of 3-4 kilometers.

And if you gag from twenty guns in one gulp.
What will this thing be doing?
How long will the shells fly these same 3-4 km?
I'm afraid the soldier will not have time to fart, as Kondraty will come to him.

One miss, and remember the name.

[Shurik70]

The cartoon, of course, is good.
Yes, and put the system on the trailer really, I think.
But with a drone - I doubt something. For a BATTLE laser, a power plant with a pump system takes up a lot of space and weighs decently. And the cooling system needs an appropriate one. Even with the tank - I doubt it.

But the instruction for terrorists on how to make and disguise improvised launchers is, yes, very good.

[maxim947]

Again cartoons ...
Well for the impatience of some announce ahead of time? Or are they looking for investors?))

[sabakina]

Quote: neri73-r

Quote: iouris

Over the whole of Spain, a cloudless sky ...

Tovarisch, do not shoot the hut !!!! Why password on air!

This is not our password!

"Over the whole of Spain a cloudless sky" - according to some sources, the password (call sign) to the beginning of the military rebellion against the Second Republic in Spain, used on July 18, 1936 in the broadcast of a radio station located in Spanish North Africa (called Ceutu, Melilla, Tetuan), and served as a signal for simultaneous joint performance military throughout the country, which marked the beginning of the civil war of 1936-1939.

“It's raining in Santiago” (Spanish: Llueve sobre Santiago) - the password for the beginning of the military rebellion in Chile in 1973. Transmitted on military radio frequencies, the phrase became a signal for the supporters of General Augusto Pinochet to start the uprising and the overthrow of President Salvador Allende [1] [2]

[neri73-r]

Quote: sabakina

This is not our password! wink

Oh thanks, let it go! Enemies DO NOT know our password!

[Skubudu]

Israel showed everyone ...
With cartoons, he knows how to shoot worse than the Russian Defense Ministry.

[neri73-r]

Quote: Skubudu

Israel showed everyone ...
With cartoons, he knows how to shoot worse than the Russian Defense Ministry.

They and the Anglo-Saxons have always filmed these cartoons better than anyone else, starting with SOI!

[Lelek]

Quote: Skubudu

Israel showed everyone ...

The cunning of Israel is from Odessa and Berdichev under Anglo-Saxon sauce.

[Advisor to the Council of Advisers]

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PJSC "Taganrog Aviation Scientific and Technical Complex named after G.M. Beriev "patented the carrier aircraft of the combat laser system under development, and published its first image. From the document it follows that the appearance of the machine will differ significantly from the Soviet experimental laboratory A-60.

The transport aircraft Il-76MD-90A was chosen as the carrier. A system of mirrors for laser guidance is located under the teardrop-shaped fairing, right behind the cockpit.



It is worth recalling that the NGO Almaz is responsible for the laser system itself, which has been developing a new type of weapon for over 40 years. For the carrier itself is responsible TANTK them. G.M. Berieva. So it was in the case of the Soviet flying laboratory A-60. It was intended to study the behavior of laser beams in the upper atmosphere. Subsequently, all the developments had to be used to create a combat laser complex. However, the collapse of the USSR did not allow these plans to come true.

[Aaron Zawi]

Well, when the practical result will be, then we'll talk. In the meantime, there’s nothing to talk about.

[Air force]

Where is the demonstration then? So how Russia told about its development of new hypersonic weapons is all cartoons, but how Israel or the United States show cartoons is a demonstration, I have a question, and how Israeli cartoons differ from Russian ones, probably because Israeli kosher ones and they definitely need to believe and praise air defense systems which will only be tested and not the fact that the tests will be successful.

[Zeev Zeev]

So here already two users from Israel wrote: "Development is underway, there will be results, we will see."

[Zeev Zeev]

Currently under development. When it’s over, and the system goes out for testing, they’ll show not computer cartoons, but shootings.

[rocket757]

And sho, now the whole "kumpol" will be removed from positions?
How to wait and see the statistics of the work of both ... this will be the topic!

[voyaka uh]

Do you read articles, or just headlines?
The laser is an addition to J.K. It will close the "dead zone" - up to 7 km. These are mortar mines, mainly

[rocket757]

That is understandable. They simply often proclaim that it’s time, it’s time to cancel the guns, then they will get to the missiles ... they are out of date.
Well I always pointed out that an integrated approach is effective ... especially since each system has its own limitations and it is good if they do not intersect ..
And performance indicators, in comparison, are really interesting to see.

[kventinasd]

Quote: voyaka uh

These are mortar mines, mostly

Launched by the Papuans.
Against the attack of a serious enemy, the LCD has no chance, especially if it is hypersound or long-range artillery.

[voyaka uh]

"if it is hypersonic" ///
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But this is wrong.
The laser strikes at the speed of light.
Therefore, they are being developed so actively.
Him that subsonic, that hypersound - equally standing.
While lasers are tactical. Near air defense.
But when the lasers are placed in space on chains of satellites, the era of ballistic missiles will decline.

[kventinasd]

Quote: voyaka uh

The laser strikes at the speed of light.

What power should a laser pulse be in order to hit a hypersonic target? It’s clearly not 100 kW

Quote: voyaka uh

But when the lasers are placed in space on chains of satellites, the era of ballistic missiles will decline.

Well, this is already from the realm of science fiction, and this will obviously happen not in this century, but by then something already will come up like anti-lasers ..
It is enough for the rocket to give a mirror surface or to provide high cloud cover, as all these laser systems will turn out to be useless pieces of iron.

[musketon64]

Then chains of antisatellite satellites will appear in orbits.

[voyaka uh]

Undoubtedly. There will be such.

[neri73-r]

Quote: voyaka uh

"if it is hypersonic" ///
---
But this is wrong.
The laser strikes at the speed of light.
Therefore, they are being developed so actively.
Him that subsonic, that hypersound - equally standing.
While lasers are tactical. Near air defense.
But when the lasers are placed in space on chains of satellites, the era of ballistic missiles will decline.

What does the speed of light have and are equally standing, we are talking about the reaction time from detecting the target, calculating the trajectory, the possibility of tracking (holding on to the target) and until the laser is brought to full power, as well as the holding time until the target is destroyed! And this happens, alas, not at the speed of light! And on a target flying in hypersound, you may not have time to do everything. And if the target is protected from overheating, then generally the seams!

[voyaka uh]

"a target flying on a hypersound, you may not have time to do everything." ////
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You may not have time ... I agree. But still, the laser will be in time hundreds of times faster than a missile defense missile from Earth.
In space, the laser has its own difficulties, but they are technically surmountable. And ICBMs will inevitably cease to dominate strategically, as they are now. Although they will not disappear at all, of course.

[neri73-r]

Quote: voyaka uh

But still, the laser will be in time hundreds of times faster than a missile defense missile from Earth.

Well, here it’s inversely proportional, the rocket flies slower, but it immediately affects and, as a rule, the muffler, light radiation instantly, but it takes time to maintain and, accordingly, heat up, and here there are a lot of difficulties, as you write, starting from power laser to the material of which the target is made (protected), plus the atmosphere.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: kventinasd

Launched by the Papuans.
Against the attack of a serious enemy, the LCD has no chance, especially if it is hypersound or long-range artillery.

This system, like the LCD, is imprisoned for a specific purpose - to minimize the loss of Israeli civilian population from the arsenal of various Mujahideen organizations, with the option to counter anti-tank missiles on the battlefield, and in the future to shoot down something like Scuds. Israel, like any developed country under threat of aggression, has a means of response against the attack of a serious opponent, which will lead to unacceptable losses on the part of the attacker. With the combatants from Levan and the Gaza Strip, this answer is not applicable, because suffers significant image losses to the country, which can lead to a significant decrease in the standard of living of the population

[Bully]

I don’t understand how a laser can affect a flying piece of cast iron weighing 16 kg, inside of which there is only a charge of TNT (120 mm mine)? Heat to explode a charge in flight? Unlikely

[voyaka uh]

Exactly. Heat and burn the warhead. This has already been done more than once. And near Gaza too. The target guidance and retention system was developed 20 years ago. But twice changed the laser itself. There were problems with its power and reliability for a long time.

[smile]

voyaka uh
Hello.
I guess. that laser weapons, in addition to the other, have a right to exist. The fact that your guys are seriously engaged in the above - I believe. Perhaps the cartoon is necessary not only to inform someone, but also to attract financial resources - I do not see anything bad.
But I have a question for you - excuse me if I am illiterate, since I'm in laser weapons - not just zero - minus ... big ... :)))
So - the question is - if using a laser to shoot a mine of 120 mm - then
1. will have to burn through a fairly thick body (if you hit the center of the mine) - which is much thicker than the body of ballistic missiles. The American airborne system was closed due to cost, wild overheating of the machine and the impossibility of providing the necessary power in the current technological conditions ....... Damn, but. again - the walls of the 120mm mine ammunition are elementarily thicker. Is it possible that this problem has been solved and the Americans will again revive a long-closed topic? Or do you have a joint development?
2. At those speeds. on which ballistic missiles fly - even a small melted cavity will spill out into a terrible hole that will put an end to the ballistics of the rocket, and on it itself.
In order to thoroughly reduce the 120 mm mine from the trajectory, it needs to be undermined .... in the atmosphere (hereinafter - my assumptions - unless you have to spend more energy than to destroy such an object in space - there is no atmosphere there, everything is simpler). If it is not blown up in the air, then, having knocked it off the trajectory, it is not a fact that it will not get there, where it is not necessary even more precisely than it wanted. And given the rate of fire .....
3. You can express your opinion, do you have something to say about this topic in the press - is it development for the next half century, or does hell know it because of secrecy?
Sincerely.

[voyaka uh]

We have an American laser, and our guidance systems. I don’t know about BR, Israel is not doing this. It is important for us to shoot down mines and small missiles.
Prototypes already worked in combat conditions. But they have not embarked on serial weapons yet. Due to insufficient power and reliability of the lasers.
Somewhere, a total 120 kW impulse needs a couple of seconds in a few rays. And the mine is burned in flight.

[smile]

voyaka uh
Thank you.

[Operator]

100 kW of power (either power supply, or laser radiation) in the form factor of a large-tonnage container: "Aerosol curtain - no, have not heard"

[Zeev Zeev]

Aerosol curtain on mortar shells, anti-tank missiles and mini UAVs? No, not heard . After all, the cartoon clearly shows the goals against which these systems are being developed.

[Operator]

And why, in fact, it is impossible to charge the aerosol into NURSs, shells or mines in the first salvo with the detonation of ammunition along the trajectory of the subsequent flight of the OFS ammunition in the second salvo, and aimed specifically at the laser station, does the worth of horseradish know how many lemons are bucks?

And then they will be pulled out in full in the third and subsequent volleys

[Zeev Zeev]

Because this aerosol will be blown away by the wind. In addition, the station still needs to be detected and accurately direct the first volley at it.

[Operator]

Between the first and second salvo, the break is measured in seconds. The laser beam glows in the air like a Christmas tree.

[musketon64]

Or clouds of dipole reflectors to mask a salvo from a radar?

[Operator]

Of course - two in one.

[Zeev Zeev]

Then one salvo will cost as the installation itself.

[musketon64]

I do not own such bookkeeping, therefore I will take your word for it. Suggested as an option. But anti-radar SDs are also not cheap and nevertheless they are used. And even a few pieces for one goal.

[Bully]

Alternatively, the use of a reflective coating of a mine / shell. A laser beam is essentially a power transmission channel. If the beam is reflected from the object, then the power will slip off it

[rocket757]

Why is there an aerosol, there are enough dusty / sandy curtains. Of course, they are not when you want / need, but the weather forecast was a strategic factor in all military times.

[g1washntwn]

Against self-made drones, terrorists on hang gliders will pull. But against the INF Treaty is not the case when you need to save missile defense. Reflective-scattering coatings are also in testing.

[uhu189]

Or maybe one of the knowledgeable people can explain - everyone says that in conditions of humidity and dust, the laser loses power and becomes ineffective. But is this true, as far as I understand for lasers of the optical range of radiation? But if, in theory, emitters are made on the UV and X-ray ranges of radiation - can you bypass the atmospheric limitations? Is this true or not? Well, the fact that such lasers are technologically more difficult to perform - I understand

[Aviator_]

UV range lasers of this type do not pull, especially the X-ray range. And if there are low power UV lasers, then there are no X-ray lasers at all. I recall that in the early 80s, the Americans boasted in the SDI program that they would place X-ray lasers in the Earth’s orbit, but they needed to be pumped by a nuclear explosion. So in theory, but there was no practice.

[qaz]

Urrrraaaaaaa! Again "Evreymultfilm" pleased us !!!!!!!! Urrrraaaaaaaa !!!!!!!!!!

[qaz]

Quote: uhu189

But if, in theory, emitters are made on the UV and X-ray ranges of radiation - can you bypass the atmospheric limitations?

Yes, even the Earth’s atmosphere itself absorbs UV and X-rays, not to mention cloudiness and dust. Nobody has canceled physics yet.

[Alien From]

The Israelis, too, began to get involved in cartoons ....... trend however)))

[alavrin]

An interesting decision to put laser systems on drones .... Promising.

[Kerensky]

Beautiful cartoon. The laser head of the drone affects everything in the upper and rear hemispheres. Appreciated. Well, I understand - a secret.
But it is not clear with the mines - this revolving cast iron must be heated fairly ...

[Shahno]

// In total, three systems have been created, each of which includes an electric laser with a power of up to 100 kW. //
If about creating prototypes, their power is higher. I don’t know where this round digit from 100 kW comes from ..
Neither Rafal nor Elbit officially announced such a thing. Yes, and stupid, at the implementation stage.
PS. Am I already silent that there is an electric laser?

[Kostadinov]

When a drone destroyed a rocket on the ground and then started knocking it down and thought in the air, but didn’t it destroy all the missiles on the ground yet?

[mikstepanenko]

Good cartoons, beautiful rockets explode. I’m just embarrassed to ask how is it that they hold the laser beam for several seconds strictly on the rocket fuse? First you need to melt the hole in the metal body of the rocket, and only then you get to the fuse. And without self-explosion, this ray is a rocket that the elephant is shy.

[Zeev Zeev]

Rockets, artillery shells, and mortar mines are shot down with a laser on tests regularly. Shells after damage fall apart from centrifugal and aerodynamic forces.

[unhappy]

Weather-dependent weapons - money laundering.
Fog, rain, smog - immediately run to the bomb shelter!