Portal Sina discussed why the J-20 fighter is not available in a two-seat version


In China, they decided to discuss the question of why the industry is not going to create fifth-generation twin fighters. Opinions are traditionally divided. Some experts believe that the J-5 is good in a single-seat version, while others are confident that the double version would expand the capabilities of this PLA combat aircraft.


The Sina portal says that the J-20 two-seat fighter has not yet appeared in service with the Chinese Air Force due to the fact that this is simply not practical. It is noted that the aircraft uses the latest on-board electronic systems that make it easier for the pilot to complete tasks. Arms control systems, navigation aids, the use of a helmet with multimedia devices - all this, according to the author on the Sina portal, allows one J-20 pilot to cope with any task.

From the article:

Please note that when performing operations J-20 does not appear alone. It can be accompanied by other fighters, including J-10, J-16, Su-30MK. The same Su-30MK can strike at ground targets, and at that moment the J-20 invisible fighter will perform the main work in the airspace - including to neutralize funds aviation the adversary.

It is noted that a second seat in the J-20 cockpit is not required, as the aircraft is multi-purpose and equipped with the “latest technology”.

In one of the comments on the Sina material, the user writes that the military, "apparently, has not yet disclosed such an important detail as the use of an artificial intelligence system on board." The user believes that it is she who makes the double version of the J-20 pointless.
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  1. Vasyan1971 12 March 2020 09: 08 New
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    Please note that when performing J-20 operations, one does not appear. His can accompany other fighters

    And they may not accompany. You never know what garbage can happen ... This also needs to be taken into account.
    1. Insurgent 12 March 2020 09: 10 New
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      The aircraft uses the latest on-board electronic systems that make it easier for the pilot to complete tasks. Arms control systems, navigation aids, helmet use with multimedia devices - all this, according to the author on the Sina portal, allows you to cope with any task and one pilot J-20.
      It is noted that a second seat in the J-20 cockpit is not required, as the aircraft is multi-purpose and equipped with the “latest technology”.

      Military exploitation, or war, will show this way or not ...
      1. Vasyan1971 12 March 2020 09: 29 New
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        Quote: Insurgent
        Military exploitation, or war, will show this way or not ...

        Exactly. A theory without practice is dead.
    2. Nikolaevich I 12 March 2020 09: 33 New
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      Quote: Vasyan1971
      may not accompany. You never know what garbage can happen ... This also needs to be taken into account.

      And whom does the other person grieve? request
      1. Vasyan1971 12 March 2020 09: 40 New
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        Quote: Nikolaevich I
        And whom does the other person grieve?

        So that's how it is ... Except in the plan: "learn from the mistakes of others." request
        1. Aerodrome 12 March 2020 09: 50 New
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          articles "zina" is not serious, you can not pay attention.
          1. Vasyan1971 12 March 2020 11: 26 New
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            Quote: Aerodrome
            articles "zina" is not serious, you can not pay attention.

            Decent scouts derive information from ANY open source. laughing
            It is clear that sifting waste rock is a thankless task. However, it’s not worth it to “ignore” indiscriminately. soldier
        2. Nikolaevich I 12 March 2020 10: 31 New
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          Quote: Vasyan1971
          in terms of: "learn from the mistakes of others."

          This ... "type": until the thunder strikes, the Russian peasant does not cross himself? Well, yes ... in this case, it is better when the "roasted cock" first bites into the Chinese sirloin! lol
          1. Vasyan1971 12 March 2020 11: 27 New
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            Quote: Nikolaevich I
            This ... "type": until the thunder strikes, the Russian peasant will not cross himself?

            No. Type "smart learns from the mistakes of others."
            By the way, about the "Russian" man, it's in vain. Everybody suffers from such a misfortune. Even the women.
            1. Nikolaevich I 12 March 2020 13: 08 New
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              Quote: Vasyan1971
              about the "Russian" man, it's in vain

              May be ! But often "folklore" is emphasized, for some reason, not just on the "peasant", but on the "Russian peasant" ...
              1. Vasyan1971 12 March 2020 13: 20 New
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                Quote: Nikolaevich I
                But often "folklore" is emphasized, for some reason, not just on the "peasant", but on the "Russian peasant"

                The word is mysterious, exotic and simply beautiful for zapadentsev: "music". Well, the labels of the media, of course, since the time of John the Terrible, for the cruelty of the called - by Vasilyevich. There is no where to go ... request
    3. vkl.47 12 March 2020 10: 07 New
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      Five-seater can be done as a car.
  2. Victor_B 12 March 2020 09: 10 New
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    Well, somehow, we also have all single-seat fighters.
    Only SU-30 is double.
    Yes, and our "likely friends" are also mostly single and no one is tweeting.
    From the article, it seems, you can understand that this is a drawback.
    After all, training sparks will surely be.
    1. Grigory_45 12 March 2020 20: 20 New
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      After all, training sparks will surely be

      is not a fact. No fifth-generation aircraft have a UBS version.
  3. Scipio 12 March 2020 09: 11 New
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    The article forgot to indicate "has no analogues")
  4. Horon 12 March 2020 09: 23 New
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    why the J-20 fighter is not available in a two-seat version

    If only because it will make the aircraft heavier and increase its radio visibility.
    1. Aerodrome 12 March 2020 09: 51 New
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      Quote: Horon
      why the J-20 fighter is not available in a two-seat version

      If only because it will make the aircraft heavier and increase its radio visibility.

      and increase combat capabilities ...
  5. knn54 12 March 2020 10: 18 New
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    In a modern combat aircraft, it is very difficult for one to keep track of everything, and two, on the contrary, are able to maximize the capabilities of the machine. The second crew member is an operator. A man with a good reaction, performs the functions of a navigator. He can replace the pilot, if necessary.
    I think that when the aircraft is part of a group, a second crew member is simply necessary.
    EVERYONE strives to make the fighter multifunctional so that it can work on the ground.
    The Mig-31 interceptor is also double. When there is a complex armament, the pilots distribute tasks among themselves.
    And "20" just has a narrow circle of "responsibilities."
    1. Titus 12 March 2020 10: 42 New
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      I agree ... one head is good, and two is better
    2. EvilLion 13 March 2020 08: 36 New
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      MiG-31 comes from a single MiG-25, and there is a very complex complex for the 80s, but now it’s easier. To work on the ground, you need the physical ability to somehow distinguish targets on it, Doppler radars, for example, are detached from ground exposure in principle, otherwise simple methods remain, such as hitting the coordinates and shooting at the course.
  6. missuris 12 March 2020 10: 33 New
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    on the Ka-50 they also thought so ((but visually 1 pilot looks good)
    1. Grigory_45 12 March 2020 20: 27 New
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      on Ka-50 also thought so

      it’s still incorrect to compare the plane with a helicopter - in the second case, the load on the pilots is much higher (because they fly low). Well, the Ka-50 is still an unverified experience. Full-featured equipment that would take on the functions of the operator, it was not

      Since then, a lot of water has flowed in terms of creating avionics and all kinds of electronic assistants

      By the way, all the famous jet attack aircraft (Su-25, Skyhawk, Thunderbolt) are single-seaters, and nothing prevented one pilot from both flying the plane and working on the ground - although the cat wept over the electronics in those attack aircraft.
    2. EvilLion 13 March 2020 08: 32 New
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      And they thought it was right, because in fact it didn’t go anywhere, there is no operator of weapons on the Ka-52, there is either a co-pilot or a passenger in general, who, for example, may be a squadron commander who will be like in a tank, will be engaged only in observation. Well, the F-22 and Su-57 in two-seater were not even planned, it is possible that the Su-35 does not use sparks (they could be the Su-30M2, but they are few and the Su-30SM), because compared with The Su-30SM has a fundamentally different level of electronics integration, not locally, as they did in the 90s, but as a single complex.
  7. EvilLion 13 March 2020 08: 27 New
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    Is the Su-30MK capable of ground targets? Did I miss something?