Named the cost of oil production in Russia

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Named the cost of oil production in Russia

After the decision of Iraq and Kuwait to increase production volumes and lower oil selling prices, prices for “black gold” in the world market began to fall again. If the day before the price of a barrel of Brent crude oil was trading above $ 39, at the moment the bar is much lower - about $ 34. Recall that earlier the Ministry of Finance announced the following: with oil prices in the region of 25-30 dollars per barrel, reserves will last for 6-10 years.

Today it became known about the cost of oil production in our country. This was reported by Deputy Head of the Ministry of Energy Pavel Sorokin. According to a federal government official, the cost is between $ 9 and $ 20 per barrel. Moreover, the price level varies depending on the project being implemented.



It should be noted that the interval of 9-20 dollars per barrel - the cost, which is higher than the "Arabian" counterparts. The production of a barrel of oil in the Persian Gulf region costs no more than $ 4-5 per barrel. However, here it is necessary to pay attention to the fact that we are talking about different grades of oil, and that Russian-produced oil has its own traditional sales markets that use just such oil.

On the eve of Moscow, a meeting was held with investors who noted that during the crisis it is advisable to pay attention to high-tech projects that can bring additional income to the state budget and stimulate the economy. One of these areas is digitalization and computerization, development in the field of robotics. It is noteworthy that during the negotiations between the head of state and large investors there was also a closed part.
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  1. +20
    12 March 2020 06: 41
    high-tech projects - it’s skolkovo, nano-chubais true payback zilch but the mountains shoveled money
    1. +67
      12 March 2020 06: 47
      Recovered! When oil was at more than $ 100, no one "scratched" at the expense of high-tech industries, then they simply shoved money into their pockets, and now they want not only to have oil from oil, but also to cut the budget.
      Now they will beg for tax breaks, state subsidies and state loans non-repayable.
      During this crisis, the number of billionaires in the Russian Federation will increase significantly.
      1. +20
        12 March 2020 06: 56
        It should be noted that the interval of 9-20 dollars per barrel - the cost, which is higher than the "Arabian" counterparts. Oil production in the Persian Gulf region costs no more than $ 4-5 per barrel.

        I met information about $ 10 from the Saudis, but not the point.
        There is just a feeling that once "at the top" they started talking about cost price, then we can talk about the calculation of a long war in the oil market.

        And how will it end request No. ...
        1. +43
          12 March 2020 07: 08
          Quote: Insurgent
          And how will it end ...

          It’s not going to end in anything good. Everything could be more or less normal if we had a developed industry. But our industry and economy is in poor condition. And it is not worth expecting that lower oil prices will contribute to the development of digitalization and computerization, as there will be no extra money.
          1. +3
            12 March 2020 08: 04
            Quote: Gene84
            It won't end well.

            It’s not at all clear what the hell Russia got into this war from.
            She needs it 7
            I was in OPEC +, well, I would continue. prices due to the crown would sag a bit. but not so.
            Remember the past years. no economic war of the Russian Federation won.
            Nobody yells - More sanctions.
            Dollar rules like rules
            Why the heck ??? Not clear.
            1. 0
              12 March 2020 08: 22
              Well, Russia also proposed to extend the existing contracts for both production and price. But the Saudis said no, we will increase production. Russia then got out of the deal. And the Saudis still increased production to 13 million barrels per day.
              1. +13
                12 March 2020 08: 30
                Quote: Sith Lord
                Well, Russia also proposed to extend the existing contracts for both production and price.

                not true . Russia said that it was not profitable for them, Leontiev said this on March 8.
                Quote: Sith Lord
                But the Saudis said no, we will increase production. Russia then got out of the deal.

                Sergey, well, you don’t have to lie
                https://iz.ru/984869/khariton-galitckii/iz-pod-opek-vykhod-iz-neftianoi-sdelki-ukrepit-pozitcii-rossii-na-rynke

                8 March 2020, 19: 57


                Refusal to participate in the OPEC + deal gives Russian oil a chance to regain its share in the world market, experts are sure. The side effects of the agreement for our country became more apparent with each passing month, while other states increased production more and more actively, they note. In fact, it turned out that all retiring volumes were completely replaced by American shale oil, Mikhail Leontyev, Rosneft spokesman, emphasized. Now, however, the US plans to capture the market are unlikely to come true - after the collapse of the agreement, oil shale production may simply be unprofitable.

                Quote: Sith Lord
                And the Saudis still increased production to 13 million barrels per day.

                Seogey, google it, by dates. It's just

                Mar 06, 19:44
                Read more at RBC:
                https://www.rbc.ru/economics/06/03/2020/5e621c139a7947397c940a99

                The deal to reduce oil production, which 24 countries have consistently executed for three years, will cease to be valid on March 31. Russia never agreed to OPEC's proposal to further reduce production due to coronavirus
                Experts have already lowered the forecast for oil demand growth in 2020 by half - from 1,1 million to 0,5 million barrels. per day, some analysts believe that this year demand will not increase at all, remaining at last year's level. But Russia and Saudi Arabia took opposite positions: Moscow proposed to extend the deal on the same terms and only for the second quarter of 2020, and Saudi Arabia - to increase the reduction by 1,5 million barrels. per day until the end of the year, wrote
                Read more at RBC:
                https://www.rbc.ru/economics/06/03/2020/5e621c139a7947397c940a99

                Read more at RBC:
                https://www.rbc.ru/economics/06/03/2020/5e621c139a7947397c940a99
                1. -9
                  12 March 2020 09: 09
                  If it is not clear - do not cry out, you need to study the problem and only then issue solutions.
                2. +22
                  12 March 2020 15: 52
                  It’s ridiculous for me, who has been working with oil and gas builders for almost a decade and a half, to hear about the cost of oil production. Most of the Saudis' wells are already at the limit of their service life, they are pumped, so their prime cost is the same as ours, while they have all the tanker trade and a huge logistical shoulder, and we have the bulk of oil pipelines and even the fact that tankers are much closer to consumers without going through any paid channels, so that the cost of delivery to buyers in Russia is the lowest in the world. In principle, Saudi Arabia cannot "fill with oil" in any way, their fables about "increasing up to 12 million a day" by knowledgeable world oil and gas experts have long been refuted, Saudi production is at the limit, which is why they set up a drone attack and other tricks. You can look at the debit card of their wells with a specialist and find where there you can find the opportunity to increase by as much as 2,5 million barrels per day. Saudia is quite capable of opening up its oil storage facilities, but this, in the first place, is unlikely to allow it to make an acceptable IPO of Saudi Aramco (this company, recall, makes up about 50% of the total national wealth of Ksa and gives more than 80% of all exports), that is, a critically dangerous step, the slightest critical distrust of the basis of the Kingdom's economy - and investors will withdraw all the money from there, and the Americans will also arrange a coup d'etat for them, the benefit of the military bases is full. Secondly, where the Saudis will suddenly find hundreds of free tankers on the market to transport an additional 2,5 million barrels per day, do you think they have stood idle for years somewhere in order to appear in the right place at some point? In fact, it is necessary to build a tanker, this requires time and economic feasibility (which is not observed), so the threat of an increase to 12 million barrels is a bluff. By the way, Arab Light and Urals brands operate in different consumer segments, they hardly compete with each other, but Arab oil is just a competitor to American WTI. Now we think.
                  1. -9
                    12 March 2020 18: 57
                    Quote: Sarmat Sanych
                    For Saudis, most of the wells are already at the end of their service life, pumped, so that they have the same cost as ours

                    and only you know about it.
                    Well, what else is interesting

                    Quote: Sarmat Sanych
                    so that the cost of delivery to customers in Russia is the lowest in the world.

                    of course, to build an oil pipeline - it’s not worth the money
                    Exploit - not worth the money
                    pay for transit - the same
                    Quote: Sarmat Sanych
                    In principle, Saudia cannot fill with oil in any way, their fables about "increasing to 12 million per day" by knowledgeable world oil and gas experts have long been refuted

                    and again only you heard about it

                    Quote: Sarmat Sanych
                    You can look at the debit card of their wells with a specialist and find where you can find the possibility of an increase of as much as 2,5 million barrels per day

                    Well, then business, bring us a debit card and put it on the shelves.
                    Quote: Sarmat Sanych
                    Secondly, where the Saudis will sharply find hundreds of free tankers in the market for transporting an additional 2,5 million barrels per day, do you think they have been idle for years somewhere so that at some point they appear in the right place?

                    and again, only you know about it. and buyers. who have already bought these volumes at a discount, well, they just don’t understand that they won’t receive oil
                    Quote: Sarmat Sanych
                    so the threat of increasing to 12 million barrels is a bluff.

                    nothing. so they already mined these volumes?
                    Quote: Sarmat Sanych
                    By the way, the brands Arab Light and Urals work in different segments of the consumer, they compete little with each other

                    come on
                    that is probably why the Old Man in the lungs switched from Russian oil to Iranian and Saudi

                    Quote: Sarmat Sanych
                    Now think.

                    and why think 7 yap, you Sarmatian Sanych.
                    There are a lot of beeches - evidence is zero.
                    but as always.
                    1. +11
                      12 March 2020 20: 43
                      atalef, stop parroting and plunge yourself deeper into impurities. What a nafig "oil pipeline" if 70% of Russian oil deliveries go through ports, since the capacity of Russian ports has doubled in comparison with Soviet 91. And thanks to the many times smaller transport leverage, the European and Asian market for Russian tankers is much closer than with Saudi, and there is no need to go through Suez, which is also a lot of money and time.
                      If I will explain the return of the wells, what do you understand in this? Besides that, as before, squatting on ... you will be practicing in the manner of all the whiners who have been selected by someone in VO.
                      What kind of "buyers", who said a couple from Spain (I will note a scanty oil consumer) - do you call this the loud phrase "have already bought everything"?)
                      First, take a look when they produced those volumes, and then look that the Saudis have not a single well without oil transfer pumps, and even 10 years ago there were 50% of such wells. Besides Russia, there is no new and cheap oil in the world, remember. But in order to hide the failure due to lack of volume and somehow carry out the IPO of Saudi Aramco - for this, an imitation with the "attack of the Houthis" was needed, when, having received a break ("we have damaged 50% of production"), to increase volumes. For this, and the stuffing of the Saudis about "large reserves", "low S" and other bikes with "an increase to 12 million per day."
                      What nafik "Old Man switched", will you tell me this to a Belarusian citizen of Mogilev? Study the materiel, the Baltic ports and the piece of iron connecting them with Belarus are PHYSICALLY unable to carry even 5% (screen out) of the 24 million tons that Belarus received from Russia annually to Naftan and the Mozyr Oil Refinery. Plus, neither Naftan nor Mozyr has such a product pipeline that is capable of delivering volumes from tanks to the reactors themselves, even for a 30% load. These refineries were built specifically for "Druzhba", there are thousands of things exclusively for this, Luka will bury the entire economy of the Republic of Belarus to hell without Russian oil and in Russia 600 thousand Belarusians will not work as it is now, but more than 2 million. "Switched to Iranian and Saudi")))) Just like the last time 10 years ago to "Venezuelan"? Ouki Mudishchev's tricks (this is what we call him) are already known even to children, but in fact, since the beginning of the year, only 250 thousand tons of oil have been delivered to the two named refineries and another 250 have been refined thanks to last year's reserves. By the way, the only batch from the Baltic port went for almost a month, at first the tanker could not dock at the port for a week due to storms, then the same amount was shipped, then the trains got stuck before reaching Novopolotsk, in short, a circus on a dart as my Brest grandmother said.
                      1. -5
                        12 March 2020 22: 37
                        Excuse me, what does the well return have to do with it ?!
                        What does the pump have to do with it?
                        Are you sure about the topic?
                  2. -15
                    12 March 2020 20: 18
                    Quote: Sarmat Sanych
                    For Saudis, most of the wells are already at the end of their service life, pumped, so that they have the same cost as ours

                    Quote: Sarmat Sanych
                    the cost of delivery to customers in Russia is the lowest in the world.

                    Sarmat Sanych, I suspected that you were De Bill, but did not think so.
                    1. +8
                      12 March 2020 21: 34
                      Mordvin 3, whine more clearly and stay on the line, your opinion is important to ussmile
                  3. 0
                    13 March 2020 00: 01
                    And what do the Americans do when oil prices fall below acceptable levels? They are buying oil over the hill to replenish internal reserves! Isn't it time for us to form such reserves and do the same? At least for domestic consumption? And this and to reduce the production of "marginal" sources? You look - and prices will rise if your own economy is still breathing?
                    1. +2
                      13 March 2020 12: 42
                      These are purchases for May.
                      In the second part, you are right.
                  4. -3
                    13 March 2020 15: 50
                    Well - well, you tell the Arabs that your production costs are the cheapest.
                    1. +1
                      19 March 2020 07: 00
                      morgan, the words of the Arabs - an indicator for you? Seriouslylaughing? You can even logically imagine that the Arabs in the same fields have been mining for 60 years in a row, and every year new ones are opened in Russia on a gigantic territory. It is necessary to explain that the cost of production has been higher for decades? Well, about the fact that the Saudi tankers to Europe deliver 3 times longer, therefore, the cost to the seller is higher - I hope it is clear? I’m already silent that Russia also has oil pipelines both to Europe and China, and tankers to China, Korea and Japan are closer, plus its tanker fleet, and I notice freight has risen 9 (!) Times over the past week. The Saudis and the shale have already lost, they will accept the conditions of Russia, take a break.
              2. +14
                12 March 2020 10: 23
                Well, Russia also proposed to extend the existing contracts for both production and price. But the Saudis said no, we will increase production.

                Not true.
                OPEC and the Saudis decided to cut production to keep prices down.
                The truth was decided without the participation of Russia.
                At OPEC +, Russia refused to cut production. Then the Saudis lowered prices and decided to increase production.
                And behind them, and others pulled themselves
              3. +5
                12 March 2020 20: 37
                The Hussites butts with the Saudis, it may be easier to contribute to the national liberation movement, no?
              4. 0
                13 March 2020 00: 09
                in general, it was proposed to reduce production proportionally to all.
                the total figure is -1.5 million, the Russian share is 0.5 million.
            2. +9
              12 March 2020 09: 01
              Quote: atalef
              It’s not at all clear what the hell Russia got into this war from.
              She needs it 7

              Especially when you consider that the sharp drop in oil prices could be sharply leveled with the help of a dozen or two penny UAVs launched towards Saudi oil production facilities with the crooked calloused hands of Yemeni camel breeders. There has already been a precedent. At the same time, the "Patriot" has spoiled karma. The time may not have come yet (the term of decency has not expired), but the international goal is completely different. I really hope that everything is not happening through the thoughtlessness of our oil partners. hi
              1. +10
                12 March 2020 11: 06
                Quote: Polite Elk
                could be sharply leveled with a dozen or two penny UAVs launched towards the Saudi oil production facilities with the crooked calloused hands of Yemeni camel breeders.

                Well right, don’t be fooled by this breeder.
                The Saudis need oil at 80 - 82 dollars. per barrel (reduce the budget to zero), but the cost of 5 - 10 dollars.
                Russia has a cost of 9 to 20 dollars. , but the budget rule takes away everything above 42 dollars. into the American pill (the pill is supposedly ours, but certainly in the United States and from it the shale revolution and the US military budget are credited).
                The United States has a cost of 35-40 dollars. and today's price is 34 dollars. made her prey unprofitable.

                So who is Russia fighting with?
                Who is the SA fighting with?

                feel Well, of course, among themselves! wassat laughing

                Putting oil shale around the world and freeing the market from excess oil is an extremely sacred affair.
                Market.
                Or do you think that after the American tricks with Nord Stream 2 and the threat of arrest of our pipelayer, we will play spillikins?
                The US has declared itself at war with us.
                But in war - as in war.
                Moreover, according to the budget rule, if the price falls below 42 dollars. , the difference is paid to the oil industry workers from that very eggbox ... which is kind of ours, but in America.
                Let them pay - Russia has a budget of 42 dollars. made up. And he still manages to be surplus.

                And what do you think, Europe in this war who will support?
                With the idea of ​​cheap oil?
                What about China?
                When during the war all your losses are covered (paid) by the enemy ... you can fight for a LONG time. bully
                1. +8
                  12 March 2020 11: 32
                  Quote: bayard
                  When during the war all your losses are covered (paid) by the enemy ... you can fight long

                  An interesting and unexpected (for me, in any case) look at what is happening. And, perhaps, largely explains the actions of the Russian side. But, to be honest, I didn't quite understand about our "egg-box". The budget is like ours, and if they don't lie to us, a significant part of the petrodollars does not go to the foreign exchange portion of the gold reserves, but is immediately converted into gold in order to deprive the dollar of the status of the ultimate unit of capital accumulation. Why p-sy at their own expense should compensate for the losses of our oil workers - I did not catch. If it's not difficult, expand it in more detail. hi
                  1. +13
                    12 March 2020 20: 00
                    Quote: Polite Elk
                    But, to be honest, I didn't quite understand about our "egg-box"

                    First you need to understand and realize that the constitution that was waved to us under the drunken Yeltsin (and the entire population of Russia approved it at the referendum) is exclusively colonial, albeit veiled. I will not give examples, there are too many of them and anyone who thinks this is able to see for himself.
                    So, according to this constitution, ALL decisions of international structures (like all international law) are binding on Russia. Therefore, when the law on budget rule was imposed on Russia, it was announced to the public that ALL funds from the sale of oil at a price higher than a certain set level (now it was 42 dollars, last year was 40) go to a certain reserve fund (then this fund was divided into several funds, one of which is the NWF). You can’t take money from there - a small egg.
                    The exception may be expenses for some INTERNATIONAL events (and why do you think in Russia you are so fond of holding various forums, Olympics, Spartakiads, Universiades, championships, etc.?). And this loophole Putin and Co. they began to use it very actively, holding similar events all the time in different regions of the country, while developing the infrastructure of the regions - money did not come from the budget, but from the moneybox. Therefore, for Russia there was a paradoxical situation - the more often such events were carried out in Russia, the better and healthier it was for the economy, the money flowed into the economy through contracts - a kind of bonus in financing over the budget.
                    So, according to this "Budgetary Rule", if oil prices fall below the designated level, then the difference from the fall must be compensated for by the oil industry FROM the same pod (from where the Olympiads were financed). As a result, at the present moment, neither the Russian budget, nor the oilmen will incur losses - everything will be compensated from this fund, which is in the hands of supranational structures.

                    And if they don’t like it (and they don’t like it), then the upcoming National Voting on amendments to the constitution will give (in any case) the right to the President, the Government and the State Duma of Russia DENOUNCE ANY treaties, international obligations and arrangements that are contrary to the interests and the Constitution Of Russia.
                    Just the time has come and the little bear has grown.

                    But for the American mining industry, such actions by Russia are similar to death. And the collapse of quotes there has already gone. Bankruptcies and disruptions will follow, curtailing the shale industry as unprofitable, freeing up markets for normal suppliers.
                    And when everything settles down and stabilizes, prices will rise again to the level required by the market, but there will no longer be any "money box" and "budget rule" for Russia.
                    We declared war?
                    Challenge accepted .
                    The fighting has begun.
                    The year will be fun and sometimes scary, but ... in war as in war. hi
                    1. +4
                      12 March 2020 20: 23
                      my regards. write articles, the level of articles "clickbait" is pretty boring.
                      1. +2
                        13 March 2020 15: 40
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                    2. +2
                      12 March 2020 22: 42
                      Quote: bayard
                      First you need to understand and realize

                      Hmm. You write very interesting things (for me, in any case). About the egg-capsule. For I was in full confidence that this very box is the fruit of the gloomy Russian "financial genius". Rough, crooked, but a necessary tool to curb inflation with an unstable ruble and an oil economy.
                      Quote: bayard
                      The exception may be expenses for some INTERNATIONAL events (and why do you think in Russia you are so fond of holding various forums, Olympics, Spartakiads, Universiades, championships, etc.?). And this loophole Putin and Co. began to use very actively

                      It looks quite logical. It is a sin not to use it. Take domestic contractors, your own or the left, coordinate any estimates with them, and pump money to your home country. But in reality, the customer was very reluctant to part with money during the construction of Olympic and other facilities and choked the contractors with the price as he could. And many were simply thrown. I know not by hearsay. Himself almost harnessed to the Sochi "gold rush". Smart people advised against it in time. And my brother went to the shop. I stayed with the buoy.
                      In general, about the supranational capsule holders, I was not completely imbued with confidence.
                      Next, he will start the constitution. Agree that amendments to it were long overdue and could have been put to a referendum at least 5 or even 10 years ago. And it would have passed with a bang. With high oil prices. And no one would dare to say a word against the "bear cub".
                      As for shale oil production in America, it will naturally become unprofitable at low prices. America will turn from an exporter of expensive oil to an importer of cheap oil. I think that this is not fatal for n-owls. They lived somehow before the shale boom. I would really like your forecasts:
                      Quote: bayard
                      But for the American mining industry, such actions by Russia are similar to death. And the collapse of quotes there has already gone. Bankruptcies and disruptions will follow, curtailing the shale industry as unprofitable, freeing up markets for normal suppliers

                      come true, but if the fall in oil prices is so disastrous for the American economy, then to stabilize the market, their bombers should have been in the air about 3 days ago, heading for CA wells (since this number will not work with us).
                      Quote: bayard
                      The year will be fun and sometimes scary

                      Here I agree completely.
                      PS Thanks for the detailed comment. hi
                      1. +7
                        13 March 2020 00: 53
                        Quote: Polite Elk
                        Hmm. You write very interesting things (for me, in any case). About the egg-capsule. For I was in full confidence that this very box is the fruit of the gloomy Russian "financial genius". Rough, crooked, but a necessary tool to curb inflation with an unstable ruble and an oil economy.

                        The oil industry has already had this instrument in part since 1992, when the newly-minted oil companies of the Russian Federation acquired a "Reserve Wage Fund", which was formed according to this principle and was created to avoid the collapse of the industry in the context of hyper-inflation ... Your interlocutor had some relation to the creation of this program, which allowed to keep the industry afloat and not to bring it under the hammer for Western companies (there was a threat). Later, this program was duplicated by Gazprom. And when Putin announced the creation of the RF Reserve Fund, I was surprised to hear the same program and the same principle of forming and using the fund.
                        Just inspired ...
                        Quote: Polite Elk
                        But in reality, the customer during the construction of Olympic and other facilities was very reluctant to part with the money and strangled contractors at the price they could.

                        This is a disease of modern capitalism, but perhaps I will soften your reaction somewhat by the fact that part of the funds capitalized for the Olympics went to very important and completely non-public state needs. On those thanks to which we can now rightfully be proud of the growth of defense and unprecedented examples of weapons. One military budget would not have pulled this ... And a surprise for the adversary turned out.
                        Quote: Polite Elk
                        Next, he will start the constitution. Agree that amendments to it were long overdue and could have been put to a referendum at least 5 or even 10 years ago. And it would have passed with a bang. With high oil prices. And no one would dare to say a word against the "bear cub".

                        Even as if dared. Not that he was a teddy bear - very young at all. You can claim your rights only when you are able to defend them. Now we can. And even in 2014 - no, that's why there were maneuvers on the diplomatic, economic and partly military \ n fronts. Although morally and psychologically it was 5-6 years ago that society was as ready as possible to accept all this.
                        But there was no time.
                        And now he is no longer a teddy bear, but a young and strong bear. With a very good memory. He remembers everyone who offended him a little ...
                        And the people really burned out. And these frustrations now warms the enemy to an internal split.
                        Quote: Polite Elk
                        As for shale oil production in America, it will naturally become unprofitable at low prices. America will turn from an exporter of expensive oil to an importer of cheap oil. I think that this is not fatal for n-owls. They lived somehow before the shale boom.

                        The problems in the American economy are not due to shale, these are long-standing hardened and unsolvable problems that were partially tried to solve with the help of the shale revolution - to dramatically increase the production of oil (and gas, as a satellite during production), enter the foreign market and reduce the imbalance in foreign trade America now simply has nothing to trade with the world, and it is impossible to print dollars to infinity). They came out very aggressively and assertively, but ... the cost of their oil is 35 - 40 dollars. per barrel. They squeezed out a very large market share from other players, almost excluding their exporters from Iran and Venezuela, and others pretty much moved.
                        ... And so the recoil began.
                        Quote: Polite Elk
                        to stabilize the market, their bombers should have been in the air about 3 days ago, heading for SA wells

                        Yes, there are enough American bases in the CA and the largest US air force base in the region - nearby, in Qatar.
                        If they fly, we definitely won’t get worse. But to begin with, they will soon rob the Saudi funds in the United States. Through the courts.
                        For the United States, the collapse of their shales is the bankruptcy of a huge number of small and medium-sized companies and the entire infrastructure tied to them. Bad loans, bankruptcy of insurance companies, unemployment, stock market crash (already underway) ... against the backdrop of the upcoming US elections.
                        Trump said that he would not come on May 9 to Moscow?
                        Well, we'll see it later. hi
                    3. -4
                      13 March 2020 02: 34
                      About the binding of international laws, well, just fierce nonsense.
                      Do not confuse voluntary execution (a good question why), and some kind of mythical legal binding!
                      1. +1
                        13 March 2020 02: 48
                        Quote: Revival
                        About the binding of international laws, well, just fierce nonsense.

                        We open the Constitution (Basic Law of the Russian Federation) and read.
                        Carefully .
                        If you, a young man, do not know something, this does not mean at all that this subject does not exist in nature. This means only a limitation of your knowledge.
                        Evolve.
                        Work on yourself.
                        Be more modest and thoughtful.
                      2. -1
                        13 March 2020 03: 10
                        You probably didn’t read it, just write this.
                        The constitution speaks of voluntarily accepted (signed and ratified) by Russia treaties, conventions, etc.
                        VOLUNTARILY!
                        INDEPENDENTLY!
                        SIGNED!
                        AND RATIFIED!
                        And not someone (for example, the US Senate) passed the law to us, gave it to read, but we rushed to comply.
                        We don’t want to fulfill, we don’t conclude an agreement and that’s it, or we exit the signed agreement.
                        By your logic, the US Senate will pass us a law that we must unilaterally abide by the limitations of the agreement of the DDSM and we will dutifully begin to do so.
                        By your logic, it’s even strange how they have not yet written us a law on the elimination of our weapons, you probably think they are shy, because according to your words they have no other obstacles.
                    4. -1
                      13 March 2020 02: 39
                      "You can't take money from there - a money-box.
                      An exception may be the costs of some INTERNATIONAL events (why do you think Russia is so fond of hosting various forums, Olympics, Spartakiads, Universiades, championships, etc.?) ".

                      So what international act did you prescribe for us? Bring the link, please, I would like to see where the foreigners prescribed that Russia needs to create a money-box, a budget rule and "You can't take money from there - a money-box.
                      An exception may be the costs of certain INTERNATIONAL events. "
                      And then without evidence it sounds crazy, I will be glad if you enlighten me
                      1. +1
                        13 March 2020 02: 50
                        We type in the search engine "Budgetary rule in the Russian Federation" or "Law on the Budgetary rule".
                        We look.
                        Read.
                        We are working on education.
                      2. -1
                        13 March 2020 03: 06
                        Again.
                        Bring international / foreign law where it is prescribed to us!
                      3. -1
                        13 March 2020 12: 24
                        Merged.
                        Counted, no questions.
                      4. +2
                        13 March 2020 15: 36
                        Could not sleep Seryozha?
                        So excited that neither sleep nor eat?
                        Or VO with "Murzilka" confused?
                        We become accustomed to independence Seryozha:
                        - we type in the search engine "Christine Lagarte budget rule".
                        - and begin to get acquainted with the topic, right on the list of scratches. A headline will be enough for an intelligent person, but you, Seryozha, should read it.
                        - you should also remember \ know \ understand that the orders of the IMF and the World Bank are given in the form of "recommendations".
                        - and also, Seryozha, read something serious besides "Murzilka". For example Khazin's book ("Stairway to Heaven" for example), Leontiev's work. They write very popularly and lively, even you will understand.
                        Quote: Revival
                        And then without evidence it sounds crazy, I will be glad if you enlighten me

                        So I enlighten, Serge. But you need to learn yourself. And then after all, you will die an ignoramus.
                      5. -3
                        13 March 2020 16: 10
                        So write about conspiracy theory, once you rely on them. And the fact that ours voluntarily fulfill "recommendations" is not about the fact that the constitution obliges anyone.
                        You generally won’t bring the law, clearly ...
                        There is nothing to talk about, everything as I said
                      6. +1
                        13 March 2020 17: 05
                        Persistence in ignorance cannot be called dignity.
                        Or a customized part-time job?
                        Work on the training manual?
                        Our entire (world) history is a history of conspiracies, intrigues and coups. You can call the analysis of world history a "conspiracy theory", you can persist in ignorance and stick your head in the sand ... the order of things in this world will not change from your position.
                        The supremacy of international law over Russian is prescribed in the constitution, every schoolchild knows about this ... did you study at school? And what marks were from social studies (or how is it now called)?
                        The president has spoken about this more than once.
                        Including, when the topic of constitutional amendments was raised. Listen to his speech again, maybe it will reach ... Even to you. smile
                2. +4
                  12 March 2020 11: 47
                  Quote: bayard
                  And what do you think, Europe in this war who will support?
                  With the idea of ​​cheap oil?
                  What about China?

                  Personally, I think that even the Old Man will run to buy Arab oil for 7 bucks, until it has risen in price.
                  1. +9
                    12 March 2020 12: 44
                    Seven is not seven, but Kuwait began selling oil to Europe for $ 13.
                    In order not to give way to Saudi buyers.
                    Sechin is a miracle! Banged the global oil market.
                    1. +6
                      12 March 2020 15: 51
                      Warrior, Trump declared the Palestinian proposals the "deal of the century" - no one really noticed them. Sechin stamped his foot on the machinations of the Saudis, on the OPEC + deal - the world is on the verge of collapse. Nobody cares about exchange rates, they are seriously hooked - for the position of captain, who drives the oil ship of the World.
                      World media: "RF attacks the US shale business." It is business, not companies. Those are all unprofitable for years. And at a high price, too, a loss. The industry provides a huge number of jobs in the states for Trump. A trillion more debt, a trillion less - no difference. Trump is "violent", but you need a soft pre
                      1. +3
                        12 March 2020 20: 13
                        Quote: Sarmat Sanych
                        Trump is "violent", but you need a soft pre

                        That yes, you need a soft and friendly. So we will die. So you look and a GOOD reason to come to Moscow on May 9 will appear ... All the stars favor it.
                      2. -12
                        12 March 2020 20: 21
                        Quote: Sarmat Sanych
                        A trillion more debts, a trillion less - no difference.

                        Clown, you would be put in for stamping pins, otherwise he would sing.
                      3. +8
                        12 March 2020 20: 56
                        Mordvin whimpering, is there something on the case or are you going to bump your bald spot on the parquet? The fact that old Donald is collecting debts in trillions is his personal problem.
                      4. +4
                        12 March 2020 23: 37
                        Quote: Sarmat Sanych
                        World media: "RF attacks the US shale business." It is business, not companies.

                        Gene. Director of PJSC TATNEFT Maganov decided to make a control in his head:
                        “The head of TATNEFT was asked at what price for raw materials the company is ready to continue production.
                        “$ 8 [per barrel] is not critical for us,” Maganov replied.
                        More details on BUSINESS Online: https://www.business-gazeta.ru/news/460963
                        There is another nuance in the collapse in oil prices. "Sitting on barrels" by the hegemon in Syria and Iraq is becoming unprofitable. You can't earn much on cheap stolen oil.
                      5. +2
                        12 March 2020 23: 42
                        Vladimir, by the way, this is important information from Tatneft. And with Syria and Iraq, it is logical, especially in Iraq, the amers are being chased with rags already, bombing their bases every week, yesterday again 3 dead and 15 wounded "exceptional"
                      6. +1
                        12 March 2020 23: 48
                        I’ll drop off a link to one resource in your personal. He is complicated. Not all topics may interest you. I have been reading it since 2016. In general, take a look, you might like it.
                      7. +1
                        13 March 2020 00: 01
                        I already looked out of the corner of my eye. Tomorrow we need to look in more detail with a pencil.
                      8. +7
                        13 March 2020 00: 33
                        Vladimir, by the way, wanted to add one point. Everyone picked up the cliché behind old man Donald that the Americans say "control 80% of Syrian oil", but in fact this is a complete bastard. In Syria, reserves have always been small, they were mainly mined for themselves before the war. At the same time, on the Syrian shelf (fully controlled by Assad) there is the Jabal-Nafta field for 20 billion barrels, one of the largest on the planet, it will soon begin to be developed by the subsidiaries of the Russian state-owned company Zarubezhneft (they are not afraid of sanctions, even in Iran they produce little). So 95% of Syrian oil is in the hands of Russia.
                      9. +2
                        13 March 2020 00: 45
                        Quote: Sarmat Sanych
                        Vladimir, by the way, wanted to add one point. Everyone picked up the cliché behind old man Donald that the Americans say "control 80% of Syrian oil", but in fact this is a complete bastard.

                        It is necessary to throw them off this star too. Supported by the Yankees in Syria. Time to go home.
                      10. +2
                        13 March 2020 07: 20
                        It is too. Well, apparently the Iraqi partisans will help, they are there now on the border with Syria "Katyushas" ironed mattress bases, it is necessary to help with matresources so that they often shake the "exceptional"
                    2. +7
                      12 March 2020 17: 11
                      Quote: voyaka uh
                      Sechin is a miracle! Banged the global oil market.

                      this is not his problem level
                      1. +1
                        12 March 2020 19: 18
                        If he could, then it was him (and not himself, so with friends) :: remind me, please, who is behind Sechin?
                      2. +5
                        12 March 2020 20: 37
                        This is not his level of decision making.
                        But at the same time, from behind Sechin’s back Misha Leontiev smiles sweetly smile wink
                        Indeed, according to the budget rule, Russia will still receive 42 stipulated US dollars per barrel into its budget. Yes
                        I admire the panic on US exchanges. good drinks
                    3. +1
                      12 March 2020 20: 08
                      Quote: voyaka uh
                      Sechin is a miracle! Banged the global oil market.

                      He was not the only one who came up with this - this is a general solution; look at how all together they undertook to bring down prices.
                      I admire the American shales.
                  2. +2
                    12 March 2020 20: 06
                    Already ran. Moreover, it is to Russia, and not to the Arabs - pipeline oil is still much cheaper. And much more convenient.
            3. 0
              12 March 2020 09: 30
              This is revenge on the Saudis for the collapse of the USSR laughing
              Seriously, a blow to shale oil, the US strangely did not limit itself and did not intend to (unlike others).
              Redistribution of the market.
              Well, and most importantly, there was an agreement with the Arabs that we join their "gang" (trusteeship) and limit production, and they overwhelm us with investments. There is no investment.
              besides the moment of recession turned up.
              We have a big "pillow", but now it is not the times of the USSR, the industry is in a hole.
              Money is good - when they work, and not lie under the mattress. request
              Plans and realities often do not match request
              1. +4
                12 March 2020 11: 35
                Plus for the post and NICK good laughing
                1. +1
                  12 March 2020 12: 46
                  Indeed, a post in the style of Borat smile
                  1. +7
                    12 March 2020 12: 51
                    What kind of dog is this?
                    - This is a turtle
                    - Oh, cat ...
                    1. -1
                      12 March 2020 14: 07
                      Yakshamash ... fellow
                      is she wearing a hat?
                      1. +3
                        12 March 2020 14: 28
                        Yes - there she hides her vagina from my neighbor Nursultan negative Akhoto and tsolaat ..
              2. +1
                13 March 2020 01: 15
                Quote: BoratSagdiev
                This is revenge on the Saudis for the collapse of the USSR laughing
                Seriously, a blow to shale oil, the US strangely did not limit itself and did not intend to (unlike others).

                It is believed that this is revenge on the American oil shale for the recently introduced package of sanctions against Rosneft.
                Well, Trump threw a stink in the election race. He will have to do something.
                1. -2
                  13 March 2020 15: 23
                  In short, everyone got what
            4. +4
              12 March 2020 10: 31
              Quote: atalef
              why the hell did Russia get into this war?

              China asked Russia to drop world oil prices to recover from the virus. The Saudis insisted on reducing production, which would lead to higher prices. Putin decided to help his partner, slammed the door to OPEC. The Saudis were offended and dropped the price + increased production. Kuwait and Iraq have done this today. Those. a lot of oil is worth little. China is good, but the ruble collapsed in our country, and most importantly, the Arabs lifted the glove they had thrown and started the oil war against Russia.
              hi
              1. +1
                12 March 2020 10: 56
                Professionalism is good !!
              2. +4
                12 March 2020 12: 07
                [Quote]
                China asked Russia to throw off world oil prices to restore the economy after the virus [/ quote]
                Well, of course, like I asked, and Russia like, strained, what would I type to fuck myself?
                But the Saudis were offended and decided to help China even more and dropped the price by 2 times.
                MMMMMMMM?
                You won’t break the brain from such a multi-passage and the most interesting thing for whom?
                1. +11
                  12 March 2020 15: 57
                  Revenge is served cold - why did Russia bring down oil prices.
                  In classical Western political science, the collapse of the Soviet Union is described as the result of a combination of several cunning external manipulations carried out by the collective West under the command of the Reagan team, which led to an avalanche-like increase in the economic problems of the USSR and internal disagreements in the Soviet elite. In combination with the fatigue of the population from an outdated ideology, these challenges led to the self-dismantling of the socialist state.
                  Manipulation primarily means the Reagan bluff with SDI, thanks to which the USSR went deeper into the arms race, which was too expensive for him in the 80s, and the collapse of oil prices (the main source of Soviet exports), which the United States organized with the help of Saudi Arabia, skillfully speculating on the Islamic solidarity fueled by the war in Afghanistan.
                  Such an interpretation of events is not only greatly simplified, but monstrously simplified - although it is quite suitable for training new soldiers of globalism in all kinds of HSE-like sharashks.
                  We need to understand that dear overseas partners did not draw any conclusions from the real history of the collapse of the Union - and this is good.
                  History is a cunning aunt, and it will be very funny to read in the textbooks of the future how the collective East, led by Putin, first bluffed the United States into the senseless and too expensive for America of the 2020s (with its trillion budget deficit) arms race and at a time when the American the elites lost unity (and the stock market crackled at the seams, losing 20% ​​per week), brought down oil prices - and with them the Western economy.
                  In short, Putin acted with the United States, like Reagan with the USSR.
                  This view of what is happening now will be no less simplified, because people generally love symbolism, and political scientists especially.
                  But right now we need to answer the question - why on Friday, March 6, 2020, Russia brought down oil prices. So, let's start with the facts:
                  1) Russia at the beginning of 2020 has a surplus budget based on the cost of a barrel of $ 40. As of March 1, 2020, Russia's gold and foreign exchange reserves are estimated at almost $ 800 billion, which makes it possible to invariably fulfill all budgetary obligations for more than 10 years, even at a price of $ 30 per barrel.
                  2) Saudi Arabia at the beginning of 2020 has a budget that becomes deficit-free at an average annual price of $ 85 per barrel. Saudi gold reserves at the beginning of 2020 are estimated at just over $ 500 billion.
                  3) At the beginning of 2020, the United States has a budget that does not depend on oil prices, but has a deficit of more than a trillion with an expenditure side of $ 4,6 trillion. Combined with the largest national debt of $ 23,4 trillion. the existence of this state is supported only by the notorious "printing press" of the FRS and control over petrodollars. Against this background, the gold reserves of the USA look like a statistical error.
                  4) At the beginning of 2020, 2/3 of US oil production was the so-called "shale". Today, American departments are beginning to put on a good face with a bad game and argue that the development of shale oil will stop at a price of $ 30 per barrel, but this is clearly a worthless attempt to prevent panic on the stock exchange. It is unfit, first of all, because the monstrous degree of debt burden of companies dealing with "shale" is known to all financiers, and the break-even point of oil shale is in fact $ 50 per barrel.
                  5) In addition, panic on US exchanges is already present in connection with the continuous decline of all indices and capitalizations over the past three weeks, caused either by fear of the coronavirus, or by an attempt to blow off financial bubbles under a plausible excuse - the so-called. "correction".
                  Given all the above facts, it seems to me personally that Russia's decision to drop oil prices is absolutely pragmatic and has three main objectives:
                  a) strengthen control over the Middle East, making Saudi Arabia more dependent and governed;
                  b) move on to the next stage of import substitution and decoupling the economy from the influence of the petrodollar;
                  c) destroy the oil and gas competitors in the United States - heavily credited "shale" companies - and, bonusly, break the back of a camel of the American economy, and therefore the hegemony of the dollar.
                  The last point is worth dwelling especially on - you can see live every day, starting from March 9, 2020, with the start of trading in the eastern United States, shares of the main producers of "shale", Pioneer Natural Resources Co., Whiting Petroleum Corporation, Occidental Petroleum Corporation, fell. etc., the collapse is already 70% on average.
                  The collapse of these capitalizations is pulling US exchanges further down into the abyss of an uncontrollable crisis.
                  Russia's decision to bring down the oil market is a decision to lead the management of the global economic crisis and get maximum bonuses at its completion. And rightly so - we must, figuratively speaking, get the most out of the "American inheritance." We have not only moral right to do this, but also all the proper resources: healthy finances, huge gold reserves, almost zero public debt, an increasingly independent economy, the “workshop of the world” —China — is allied, and most importantly, our Army, Navy and Rosguard.
                  Hysterical squirrels, whose trip to meet with coronavirus to Spain, France or Italy is frustrated due to the fluctuation of the $ exchange rate, I recommend calming down and visiting, for example, Karelia or Baikal.
                  The world will never be the same again, the Russian Sun rises - slowly, but steadily.
                  1. +6
                    12 March 2020 17: 14
                    Quote: Sarmat Sanych
                    a) strengthen control over the Middle East, making Saudi Arabia more dependent and governed;

                    want to say that Russia can defeat Saudi Arabia with Kuwait, Qatar, the UAE in this war? Fantasy!
                    Quote: Sarmat Sanych
                    c) destroy oil and gas competitors in the USA - heavily-credited “shale” companies

                    their shares will be bought by the richer ones, they will be preserved, they will wait and begin to mine
                    1. +9
                      12 March 2020 17: 23
                      Overlock, I answer the first question - easy. Please do not comment on what you do not understand. By the way, Qatar does not produce oil, and the rest do not even have extra tankers to increase supplies. And yes, the fact that the shale mothballs are mothballed (have already begun) is just what Russia needs. However, nobody crashes their 70% shares, even at such a price.
                      1. +7
                        12 March 2020 17: 46
                        Quote: Sarmat Sanych
                        I answer the first question - easy

                        reassured. Looks like the Union was unlucky. Sorry
                      2. +7
                        12 March 2020 19: 32
                        So the Union did not collapse because of this, you understand very well. The betrayal of almost all elites, starting from the top to regional national ones, the competent swing of the West, the logical crisis of 30-year Kosygin reforms (and essentially getting into Western debts and eating up), the absence of significant gold reserves and airbags to survive the shock (in 91 in the all-gold reserves there were only 300 tons of gold, and now Russia has gold reserves of $ 750 billion plus 2300 tons of gold).
                      3. +5
                        13 March 2020 16: 19
                        Quote: Sarmat Sanych
                        Betrayal of almost all elites, from top to regional national

                        is it different now? Same....
                      4. +1
                        19 March 2020 07: 23
                        Overlock, if it were "the same" now, then if oil fell 5 times much smaller in size and population than the Union, Russia would not just collapse - it would simply be torn apart into atoms. Let me remind you that the Union experienced catastrophic economic consequences only when oil dropped 2,5 times. If it were "the same thing" now, we would not have liberated 85% of Syria, we would not have taken 50% of the World Arctic from the West, "we would not have given Russian citizenship to four million Russian LDNR, we would not have returned Crimea, we would not have been the first and nuclear unmanned weapons, did not increase the share of the public sector in the country's economy from about 20% in 2000 to 70% in 2018, would not confiscate from the oligarchs YUKOS, KRET, Antipinsky Oil Refinery, 30% of Rusal, Bashneft, and much more.
                        I still have questions for some of the current elites, I wouldn’t be an arrogant mess, but the current domestic elite is smarter than any other world elite, including the American and European ones, it’s not without reason that we arrange energy world crises by destroying shales and provoking political crises in the States, emigrant crises in Europe, Brexits and so on. As can be compared here at all, the late Soviet elite is rickets-dystrophics in comparison with the current seasoned ones.
                      5. 0
                        19 March 2020 07: 36
                        Quote: Sarmat Sanych
                        we would not liberate 85% of Syria, would not take 50% of the World Arctic from the West, would not give Russian citizenship to four million Russian LDNR, would not return Crimea, would not have made the world's first hypersonic and nuclear unmanned weapons, would not have increased the share of the public sector in economy of the country from about 20% in 2000 to 70% in 2018, would not be confiscated from the oligarchs YUKOS, KRET, Antipinsky Oil Refinery, 30% of Rusal, Bashneft and much more.

                        it's just some kind of holiday.
                        The right way, comrades.
              3. -4
                12 March 2020 12: 11
                Quote: Silvestr
                Arabs picked up the glove thrown by them and started the oil war against Russia

                Actually, I re-read the comment and understood nothing.
                Who threw the glove to whom?
                Why did this for China, and if both did what China wanted - why a war?
                It's hard for you
              4. 0
                13 March 2020 09: 36
                Putin was not at all in negotiations with OPEC. And the Arabs will have fun fighting with each other, the market is not rubber.
            5. -1
              12 March 2020 11: 10
              Quote: atalef
              It’s not at all clear what the hell Russia got into this war from.
              She needs it 7

              Do not.

              But there is a huge overabundance of oil due to the warm winter, the storages are crowded, reduce production and, accordingly, sales, which means stopping many wells.

              And stopping often means losing them, which means huge new capital investments.

              Here we must weigh everything and consider what is more profitable.

              I think, however, that such a fall was hardly expected ...
            6. +2
              12 March 2020 12: 11
              Quote: atalef
              It’s not at all clear what the hell Russia got into this war from.

              You ask a question, and in the next post you yourself give the answer:
              8 March 2020, 19: 57
              Refusal to participate in the OPEC + deal gives Russian oil a chance to regain its share in the world market, experts are sure. The side effects of the agreement for our country became more apparent with each passing month, while other states increased production more and more actively, they note. In fact, it turned out that all retiring volumes were completely replaced by American shale oil, Mikhail Leontyev, Rosneft spokesman, emphasized. Now, however, the US plans to capture the market are unlikely to come true - after the collapse of the agreement, oil shale production may simply be unprofitable.
            7. -1
              12 March 2020 15: 40
              ... Russia simply has no choice ... it’s a war imposed on us.
            8. 0
              12 March 2020 19: 09
              Quote: atalef
              Nobody yells - More sanctions.

              normal people, these sanctions do not apply
            9. 0
              13 March 2020 09: 33
              "War, war", live in 2020 and still believe the newspapers? It is still not clear that the Saudis have made the whole mess? The same is clear both for the alleged "leaks" and for further actions. What would you suggest, to cut production by 1 million barrels per day = 50 million tons per year, as Ibn Salman wanted? Those. almost all of the production of some "Surgutneftegaz" or more than half of the production of "Lukoil"? How to determine who will pickle and which wells, pull matches? A lot of people will be left without work, but the Saudis and shale producers will thank you. No, now it's every man for himself. There will be no war, there will be survival. Well, at the same time, the capitalization of Aramco and Chevron will suffer, this is not the worst news.
            10. -1
              13 March 2020 21: 17
              It’s not at all clear what the hell Russia got into this war from.

              And they asked her? Milay !!!! Nowadays capitalism and wars go on by themselves, for a reason it is enough that the opponent has money in his pocket and the desire to get it. Get used to the fact that at any moment they will sit down on you and begin to take away. Democracy!!!! This is not a terrible USSR, which was "feared" and which was feared and respected.
          2. +1
            12 March 2020 08: 51
            So you need to send oil oligarchs away and lower prices on the domestic market, thereby supporting production growth and cheaper output prices without lowering household incomes. Invest part of the reserve in the construction of affordable housing and industrial enterprises revitalizing the domestic economy.
            1. +4
              12 March 2020 09: 18
              Tell me to send oligarchs too. When they told you they don’t let their people in, but you all fantasize.
              1. +3
                12 March 2020 09: 32
                Nobody canceled the purchase of assets at sagging prices.
                I’d better imagine than I’ll broadcast about it :)
            2. +9
              12 March 2020 10: 35
              Quote: Labrador
              So you need to send oil oligarchs away

              they will be the first to receive money from the state from the funds.
              Remember how sanctions? The whole country suffered, taxes were canceled to oligarchs, and serfs were raised and new ones were invented laughing
              1. +3
                12 March 2020 10: 54
                So, in fact, I'm not talking about how it will be. I’m talking about how it should be in my purely personal opinion. And how will we soon see. And on this score, I have no illusions ...
              2. +2
                12 March 2020 12: 17
                Exactly, this is what was discussed in the closed part of the meeting ..
            3. 0
              12 March 2020 19: 10
              Quote: Labrador
              So you need to send oil oligarchs away and lower prices in the domestic market,

              HOW TO REACH THE HEAVEN ???
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          5. -1
            12 March 2020 14: 51
            Our industry no longer exists - everything has not been ours since the 90s. And it does not matter, "our" oligarchs or not ours at all.
            1. -1
              12 March 2020 19: 13
              Quote: NordUral
              Our industry no longer exists - everything has not been ours since the 90s. And it does not matter, "our" oligarchs or not ours at all.

              our Sochi Olympics for us, and not ours will be trading weapons, arm the Moscow kingdom against the Siberian Republic laughing
              1. 0
                12 March 2020 19: 47
                Do you dream about Siberia and Muscovy? It will not work, there will be one Russia, only another completely.
                1. +1
                  12 March 2020 21: 07
                  it's sarcasm, actually winked
                  1. 0
                    13 March 2020 12: 28
                    I'm sorry, I don’t understand. In general, there are not few who wish for this on the planet.
          6. -4
            12 March 2020 17: 26
            Can you tell us more about the "lamentability"? I just would like facts, figures, and not prrrrrr into a puddle. Protso wondering why, apart from loud windbag, they give out plus signs on this site.
            Rahmet, in advance.
        2. +15
          12 March 2020 07: 10
          Quote: Insurgent
          There is just a feeling that since the "top" is talking about the cost price, then it may be about relying on a long war on the oil market.

          They are trying to prove to themselves, but rather to the population, that everything is wrong, but this is not true. Only the insane can compete with the Saudis on oil prices, the Saudis have unlimited reserves, high-quality and easily extracted oil, besides, it is always summer there. All other things being equal, Russian companies will lose a huge amount of dough only on logistics, this is not to mention natural conditions , the huge distances of delivery and the difficulties of the production itself. If you recall 2008, then the stabilization fund distributed to the oligarchy to support the trousers ended quickly, although it was intended for pensioners. And now, when the "money box" was full, but the retirement age was raised, but what will happen in a crisis .... Now we will confidently reap the fruits of the "greatest" foreign policy at the expense of the people's pocket.
          1. +1
            12 March 2020 11: 02
            Quote: Malyuta
            Only insane ones can compete with the Saudis at oil prices, the Saudis have unlimited reserves, high-quality and easy-to-get oil, and besides, it’s always summer there. , the huge delivery distances and difficulties of the extraction itself.

            It would be possible to compete if our revenues from the sale of oil went to the country's budget. And not in the pockets of oil oligarchs. And then, respectively, over the hill.
        3. +1
          12 March 2020 07: 24
          Quote: Insurgent
          And how will it end

          Putin, to give credit, is a normal strategist in the good sense of the word. According to some reports, sometimes popping up from analysts, there is a game to buy all the oil assets of the Russian Federation from foreigners. It has already been calculated that the Russian Federation will last the longest, under conditions of dumping prices by the Saudis. When, as a shale, a kapets is already coming. There are less significant and other nishtyaks ... All this spoils the most important question - how will such a game affect the most unprotected class of our citizens? In this matter, as time has shown, our strategist does not care about his people.
          1. +2
            12 March 2020 07: 37
            Quote: edeligor
            It has already been calculated that the Russian Federation will last the longest, under conditions of dumping prices by the Saudis.

            And who calculated this?
            1. +5
              12 March 2020 10: 37
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              And who calculated this?

              Siluanov, who else. laughing
              1. +3
                12 March 2020 11: 24
                Quote: Silvestr
                Siluanov, who else.

                I somehow turned on the box and got on this pretzel, where he broadcast that citizens should best pay for the communal apartment in advance at least for six months. I was in a stupor for a couple of seconds, and then such expressions came to mind that no paper could stand it.
                1. +5
                  12 March 2020 11: 36
                  Quote: Mordvin 3
                  where did he broadcast

                  Now they’re all squealing - enough money, the price of oil will certainly fall, etc. etc.
                  And what can they do?
                  Everything is done and the thing is in the hat!
                2. +11
                  12 March 2020 11: 41
                  Quote: Mordvin 3
                  somehow he turned on the box and got on this pretzel, where he broadcast that citizens should best pay for the communal apartment in advance at least for six months.

                  They are already lacking the forage base, given that the housing and utilities sector is cost-effective even in the case of 50% non-payments, their appetites can be filled only with lead, not with mats.
          2. +10
            12 March 2020 07: 41
            On the "open part" - the usual, already stuffed osku, "blah-blah-blah" to the public about the need to develop something "high-tech" there, on the "closed part" stopudovo, measures were discussed to "compensate" for losses from the budget and tax breaks for "victims".
          3. -1
            12 March 2020 07: 49
            Quote: edeligor
            Putin, to give credit, is a normal strategist in the good sense of the word.

            Strategic thinking for a statesman is one of the most important qualities, but no matter how outstanding he is, he cannot "embrace the immense".
            There is still a circle, advisers and analysts on "freakish affairs" who provide summaries on the current state of affairs to the president in a particular industry.

            Were THEY able to calculate all the pros and cons?
            1. +5
              12 March 2020 07: 54
              Quote: Insurgent
              Strategic thinking for a statesman is one of the most important qualities, but no matter how outstanding he is, he cannot "embrace the immense".

              Yes of course. They just forgot about the most important thing - he makes a decision for which he is responsible and which, in any case, will be inscribed in history under his name.
              1. +1
                12 March 2020 08: 56
                And what is his responsibility? And before whom?
              2. -2
                12 March 2020 10: 58
                Another "epoch-making decision" leading to the "epochal dupa" ?? Not tired ?? How many times can you torment a rake while waiting for CO?
          4. -2
            12 March 2020 08: 14
            Quote: edeligor
            According to some reports, sometimes popping up from analysts, there is a game to buy all the oil assets of the Russian Federation from foreigners

            what nonsense ??
            What do you think this would not have been seen? Or do you think blocks of stock are being sold?
            All the indicators of Russian oil and gas companies have slipped - therefore, since all these companies have been heavily loaned, in case of loss of the book value, banks for the purpose of guaranteeing loans will require the provision of additional assets in the form of guarantees. and this is usually a block of stocks. so the opposite is true.
            Quote: edeligor
            It has already been calculated that the Russian Federation will hold out for the longest time under conditions of dumping prices by the Saudis

            Longer than whom?
            Longer than Norway?
            BV countries?
            Or Luxembourg, Germany, France?
            And, in these countries, there is no oil, as in dozens of countries, uguuu, so they do not give a damn about these wars, they only benefit from low prices.
            So longer than whom?
            longer than Iran, Venezuela or Iraq?

            Quote: edeligor
            When, as a shale, a kapets is already coming.

            Once again, the laughing
            In general, shale oil is generally a lie, and a barrel cannot be cheaper than $ 80 - Putin said that. Yes
            Quote: edeligor
            There are less significant and other nishtyaki

            eg ?
            Quote: edeligor
            All this spoils the most important question - how will such a game affect the most insecure class of our citizens?

            Well, as in any economic war that the Russian Federation has been waging recently - the number of billionaires will increase, the people will become impoverished even more, it will be necessary to tighten their belts so that the state would become fat.
            Quote: edeligor
            In this matter, as time has shown, our strategist does not care about his people.

            Everything is normal, the main thing is that Assad would not be thrown off wink
            1. +4
              12 March 2020 08: 59
              Quote: atalef
              what nonsense ??

              What, Alexander began the march from the wrong foot? Judging by the angry debriefing of my comment. I’m not an analyst, for which I bought, for that I sold. Gesheft never considered kosher products and did not eat, therefore, I'm sorry if I stepped on my favorite callus. Only about Assad, honestly, did not understand, past the mother-in-law’s house? wassat
              1. -2
                12 March 2020 09: 42
                Quote: edeligor
                Gesheft never counted

                Everyone counts money, who says that he doesn’t think - either a liar, or ... from.
                Quote: edeligor
                kosher products

                ??
                Lucky for you - it means you are trying exclusively with lobsters and pork
                How without milk, vegetables and fruits?

                Quote: edeligor
                Only about Assad, honestly, I did not understand, past the mother-in-law’s house

                I’ll stick it into the fence, or ....
                In Kiev, it is the most remarkable distance - 3 hours ... summer.
                1. +1
                  12 March 2020 09: 48
                  I got up from the wrong leg laughing Gesheft did not consider because all his life in the sovereign service. I don’t eat kasher because there are no Jews in the environment (poor Talmud read, Sasha lol ) About mother-in-law, I agree laughing
                  1. 0
                    12 March 2020 13: 24
                    Quote: edeligor
                    I do not eat kasher

                    Do you really see where the eggs have blunt ends, and where the sharp ones, and you disdain beef and mutton? belay
          5. +1
            12 March 2020 08: 31
            Of course, a strategist, I’ve calculated everything. with a second northern stream, with a bypass of Ukraine, with Yanukovych and three billion, with wada.
            the list of miscalculations is growing.
          6. +1
            12 March 2020 09: 56
            Quote: edeligor
            According to some reports, sometimes popping up from analysts, there is a game to buy all the oil assets of the Russian Federation from foreigners.

            Perhaps this would be the most logical explanation of what is happening. Moreover, similar, but only much larger-scale actions to buy sharply cheaper shares of Russian enterprises of GDP and Co. were carried out in the past.
            Quote: edeligor
            the most important question is how will such a game affect the most unprotected class of our citizens?

            Sucks reflected. The economy is still largely hydrocarbon, despite the import substitution, technological / economic breakthrough, nanotechnology, artificial intelligence and improving the welfare of Russian citizens.
            1. 0
              12 March 2020 23: 10
              This is not so bad if you are a market leader and there are plenty of hydrocarbon reserves. And now we are fighting for it. Arctic, Syria, pipelines, etc. Broad is my native country.
          7. 0
            12 March 2020 10: 37
            Quote: edeligor
            Putin, to give credit, is a normal strategist in the good sense of the word.

            examples .... I give counterexamples: Ukraine, ruble devaluation
            Quote: edeligor
            strategist spit on his people.

            but I completely agree with this
          8. 0
            12 March 2020 14: 57
            You have a powerful source of information.
        4. -10
          12 March 2020 07: 42
          we can talk about reckoning on a long war in the oil market.

          Both Russia and Orek will lose from this,
        5. +5
          12 March 2020 08: 03
          Many, many different factors! Events, different, will also be many ...
          Here to expect lower gas prices somehow ... in any way.
          Here "tomatoes" on the market will rise in price, because the trader always has an answer - the buck is getting more expensive, and why are they worse ??? -
          1. +1
            12 March 2020 09: 34
            Of course a tomato will rise in price hi this is Vera, a blind, stoned ... I was laughing about the fact that the Uzbek sum grew in relation to the ruble, I corresponded in the net, so I ask you - you found a deposit of native gold for a million tons or sent an expedition to Mars ??? Not ... they say that everything is the same as the old one, the Middle Ages with elements of luxury ... well, we can speak with the Americans there to start trading directly? Onions, pamadors, melons, watermelons here and there ... well, or do your gaster go to New York to farm? It turned out the same no ... but I say nothing that your Gaster will work for half the price? They get it in rubles ... they don't understand ... usually fuckers pay for everything, as always, because according to your faith, you will be rewarded ... This is in continuation of our discussion about the propaganda of "free choice" and the fact that most believe that our dollar is our FSE and omerika is a dream country like paradise laughing
            1. +3
              12 March 2020 10: 05
              Quote: Demon_is_ada
              This is in continuation of our discussion about the propaganda of "free choice" and the fact that the majority believe that our dollar is a dream country, like a paradise

              About the dollar is no longer interesno ... but we are raising salaries to us, as I previously suggested, as an option. The owner will again heap rubles, we will send products for export, for dollars and eureka!
              A trifle (really a trifle) but nice!
              They will poke their fingers and hiss at us in the city, who are so unlucky ... by the way, the g (e) hawkers will "love" us even more !!!
        6. +2
          12 March 2020 08: 23
          The Saudis swing sharply easier than in Western Siberia.
          It is stupidity to report information about the cost price - about oil, it is not even a "commercial", but a military-strategic secret.
          1. -2
            12 March 2020 14: 59
            With THESE no state secrets were left. There is only one great mystery - when we get rid of them.
          2. 0
            13 March 2020 09: 43
            And who told you, do you know the geological conditions there, right now, in 2020? Only fakes about the fact that they can produce oil without pumps, do not mention - they can no longer. They still have huge reserves - but they have already worked out the best for more than half a century of production.
        7. 0
          12 March 2020 08: 44
          Quote: Insurgent
          It should be noted that the interval of 9-20 dollars per barrel - the cost, which is higher than the "Arabian" counterparts. Oil production in the Persian Gulf region costs no more than $ 4-5 per barrel.

          I met information about $ 10 from the Saudis, but not the point.
          There is just a feeling that once "at the top" they started talking about cost price, then we can talk about the calculation of a long war in the oil market.

          And how will it end request No. ...

          How will it end? I can’t forecast, but I’m interested in what was in the closed part of the meeting with investors .. what
        8. -3
          12 March 2020 09: 32
          During crises, industry collapses first. Manufacturing industry.
          1. +2
            12 March 2020 11: 47
            Quote: AU Ivanov.
            During crises, industry collapses first. Manufacturing industry.

            Looking at what she is focused on. If the export of low-tech products - then with a fall in national currency rates against major world currencies - is booming.
            1. -4
              12 March 2020 11: 50
              The products of the first redistribution can, albeit with a stretch, be equated to raw materials.
              1. +2
                12 March 2020 11: 51
                Nails, fittings, agricultural.
        9. -1
          12 March 2020 09: 42
          For a long time nothing was heard about the Yemenite Hussite rebels.
          They have not yet appeared Tu-22M3 with calibers? It seems like it's time ... It's time!
          Yes, and it's time for the Iranians to invent Iskander
        10. +2
          12 March 2020 10: 27
          Quote: Insurgent
          And how will it end

          and what ended the war between the SA and the USSR?
        11. +2
          12 March 2020 10: 48
          It will end with the fact that somewhere a real hot war breaks out and they will try to drag Russia into it.
        12. -2
          12 March 2020 10: 51
          Quote: Insurgent
          And how will it end

          How it ended for the USSR everyone remembers. And there the economy was not a couple of our current ...
        13. -1
          12 March 2020 16: 37
          The best quality Arabian light oil, and the most easily recoverable! Russian URALS oil is heavy, sour crude oil, it is always traded at $ 2 ÷ 3 below the BRENT brand. And now the Saudis give a discount for Europe $ 6 ÷ 7 to the BRENT brand That's all arithmetic!
          1. 0
            12 March 2020 21: 49
            Refiners are imprisoned for their oil. And Urals practically does not compete in Europe with Arabian oil. Arithmetic is different wink
          2. -1
            13 March 2020 09: 46
            Well, please, specify which "Arabian light oil" are you broadcasting, what grade and what are the current quotes for it? And I thought that now low-sulfur oil from Australia and the good old Brent and WTI are driving, you opened my eyes! (actually not).
            "heavy, multi-sulfur oil" - read the materiel, at least at the level of knowledge of 10 main types of oil, what is light sweet crude, etc. by classification.
        14. 0
          12 March 2020 20: 23
          And for us ordinary citizens of the Russian Federation will end very badly, pay attention to prices in the next 2 weeks, they will increase by 10-18%
          1. -2
            12 March 2020 21: 52
            Quote: Clever man
            pay attention to prices in the next 2 weeks they will increase by 10-18%

            Are you talking about your power tool? wink

            Not in two weeks - for sure, and not for 10-18 - for sure, you’ll narrow down your margin, and you will continue to bum Yes

            That's what your sales will be selling out - yes, do not go to a fortuneteller request
            1. 0
              13 March 2020 09: 26
              Laugh in a couple of weeks
      2. +3
        12 March 2020 07: 50
        So the question is not even that come to your senses. Digitalization and computerization of what ???? We don’t have a damn, and therefore these technologies are stupidly nothing to use! As usual, when he says nothing about the essence of the problem to the official, he begins to pour in words that are smart in his opinion.
        1. -9
          12 March 2020 08: 18
          Quote: yu-xnumx
          So the question is not even that come to your senses. Digitalization and computerization of what ??

          not what, but whom
          1. -2
            12 March 2020 15: 02
            Here is the answer - the main purpose of THEIR FIGURES.
        2. -4
          12 March 2020 10: 18
          Quote: yu-xnumx
          Digitalization and computerization of what ????

          The population. Replace with computers - so they don’t have to pay a salary, they don’t produce garbage, they don’t go to unauthorized rallies. And they will always vote according to the program.
      3. +3
        12 March 2020 10: 26
        Quote: Malyuta
        Recovered! When oil was at more than 100 dollars, no one "scratched"

        then they were divided among themselves! And now it's too late to drink Borjomi!
      4. +1
        13 March 2020 01: 10
        Quote: Malyuta
        Recovered! When oil was at more than $ 100, no one "scratched" at the expense of high-tech industries, then they simply shoved money into their pockets, and now they want not only to have oil from oil, but also to cut the budget.

        But I’m wondering how the slogans have changed. If the last time oil cost $ 20, the entire government ran with the slogans of economic reform! increase productivity and labor efficiency! restructuring and optimization! as soon as oil rose, naturally forgot about it.
        Now the deputy. Siluanova (some kind of woman), stupidly: Babla heaps, we will sit out until $ 60 again. Frankly, they’re all fucked up, they don’t even try to keep a good face with a bad game ..
      5. 0
        13 March 2020 06: 32
        Quote: Malyuta
        Now they will beg for tax breaks, state subsidies and state loans non-repayable.
        During this crisis, the number of billionaires in the Russian Federation will increase significantly.

        Already started wassat
        Deputy Finance Minister Alexei Sazanov said that gas prices in Russia will remain unchangeddespite the collapse of oil quotes. In his opinion, the cost of fuel will not decrease, but it will not increase.


        Automotive fuel prices will rise in Russia rates within inflation and will not depend on the volatility of oil prices. This was reported to journalists by Minister of Energy of the Russian Federation Alexander Novak.

        And the cherry on the cake - Mutko (well, where without him)
        MOSCOW, March 12. / TASS /. Mortgage rates in the Russian Federation may increase by 1-2 points if the Bank of Russia decides to raise the key rate due to the depreciation of the ruble. This opinion was voiced on Thursday by the director general of DOM.RF Vitaly Mutko.
    2. -3
      12 March 2020 08: 24
      Totally agree, congenial advice.
    3. +7
      12 March 2020 15: 45
      Ryaruav, Chubais - a piece of shit, they don’t argue here, but Rusnano, oddly enough, has long been not only self-sustaining, but also brings annual profits and pays a lot to the state budget. By the way
      Russia is a global world leader in nanotechnology, 60% of the global market for nanotubes, XNUMXst century material:
      https://youtu.be/LFm7PyzPrMw
    4. -1
      12 March 2020 20: 20
      20 years sitting on the priest exactly, and now remembered the high-tech industries ahahaa
  2. -4
    12 March 2020 06: 42
    However, here it is necessary to pay attention to the fact that we are talking about different grades of oil, and that Russian-made oil has its own traditional sales markets that use just such oil
    And you need to pay attention to the fact that the statements given in the article were made by representatives of the Russian Ministry of Finance. And in the Ministry of Finance, we, as, indeed, in the Ministry of Energy, still have those prophets working.
    1. +12
      12 March 2020 06: 53
      You also need to consider that our Urals are trading at a price of 7-8 percent cheaper than Brent ...
      1. +15
        12 March 2020 07: 24
        Quote: Sandro1977
        You also need to consider that our Urals are trading at a price of 7-8 percent cheaper than Brent ...

        We are waiting for the rise in price of gasoline. Gasoline rises in price in three cases - if the price of oil rises, if it falls, if it stands still.
        1. 0
          12 March 2020 11: 14
          Quote: Sawing Boxwood
          Gasoline rises in price in three cases - if the price of oil rises, if it falls, if it stands still.

          Everyone has noticed this trend.
        2. 0
          12 March 2020 11: 21
          Quote: Sawing Boxwood
          We are waiting for the rise in price of gasoline. Gasoline rises in price in three cases - if the price of oil rises, if it falls, if it stands still.

          The price of gasoline depends on the price of oil to the same extent that the price of cigarettes - on the price of tobacco. That is a little more than nothing.
          Anyone who uses the words "oil" and "gasoline" in one phrase - I advise you to study the pricing of this type of product. There, the price of oil forms no more than 10% of the final cost of gasoline.
          1. +1
            12 March 2020 23: 15
            So in cigarettes tobacco is not. Inappropriate comparison.
      2. Ren
        +5
        12 March 2020 08: 08
        Quote: Sandro1977
        You also need to consider that our Urals are trading at a price of 7-8 percent cheaper than Brent ...

        In Russia there are (exported) several main varieties:
        - Urals heavy mixture (density - 31,7 degrees API, sulfur - 1,35%, average price 0,89 from Brent quotes);
        - Siberian Light light oil (density - 35,1 degrees API, sulfur - 0,57%, average price 1,0 from Brent quotes);
        - ESPO brand (a mixture of oils supplied via the ESPO pipeline, density - 34,8 degrees API, sulfur - 0,62%);
        - Sokol brand (Sakhalin-1, density - 37,7 degrees API, sulfur - 0,23%);
        - Vityaz brand (Sakhalin-2, density - 34,6 degrees API, sulfur - 0,22%);
        - brand ARCO (offshore field Prirazlomnoye).
  3. +8
    12 March 2020 06: 43
    Nonsense! Digitalization is a service that has nothing to do with stimulating the economy!
    1. +19
      12 March 2020 07: 11
      Quote: The Siberian Barber
      Digitalization is a service that has nothing to do with stimulating the economy!

      That's right. But the government needs to talk about something good in conditions when everything is bad and nothing is developing.
      1. -4
        12 March 2020 09: 20
        And how are we doing with "dark matter"?
    2. -3
      12 March 2020 07: 45
      That's right, neither any crisis, nor anything, will cancel digitalization, moreover, the "digital concentration camp" will come even faster during the crisis. And in our country, first of all, a political crisis has come to a head ...
    3. -2
      12 March 2020 12: 30
      Digitalization is not a service; it is a modern method of managing the economy.
  4. +1
    12 March 2020 06: 44
    Deputy Head of the Ministry of Energy Pavel Sorokin. According to a federal government official, the cost is between $ 9 and $ 20 per barrel.

    Another "price charmer". laughing And how the "oilmen" sang gloriously about the lack of alternatives to the benefits of "geological exploration and logistics" in the "fat" years ... And how many stories were shown about Eastern Siberia, the North and drilling platforms in the ice. ... And now P. Sorokin is broadcasting that the Russian Federation is "almost Kuwait". request
    1. -2
      12 March 2020 07: 16
      So after all, the time to "become poor" is another reason for lowering (not raising) wages, etc.
    2. +2
      12 March 2020 07: 25
      Quote: samarin1969
      According to a federal government official, the cost is between $ 9 and $ 20 per barrel.

      And what does the official consider in barrels and bucks? It seems that the law has been issued for a long time, what should be considered in rubles. recourse
  5. +3
    12 March 2020 06: 46
    well then the rates are rising, let's see how the government can handle
    1. +5
      12 March 2020 06: 55
      Quote: 52 master
      well then the rates are rising, let's see how the government can handle

      Yeah winked ... There is no time for repairs of offices after the previous "figures".
      Well, there’s nothing better to start like this than to ... finish Yes
    2. -4
      12 March 2020 07: 03
      Look better at the ruble exchange rate
      1. -2
        12 March 2020 07: 39
        why look at him?
        1. -7
          12 March 2020 08: 00
          I fully support you.
        2. +2
          12 March 2020 08: 02
          Well, you may not need Olgin’s, you may be paid in ye .. And we have ordinary Russians, real incomes have been falling for a year now
          1. -10
            12 March 2020 08: 10
            and will fall if you count in ye, let them immediately make 150 dollars each, it’s all the same to simple Russians
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              1. -10
                12 March 2020 08: 59
                now you get a troll ban
              2. -1
                12 March 2020 09: 25
                Those who are sitting - those EVERYTHING falls. Need to move.
                1. -3
                  12 March 2020 10: 01
                  Why aren’t they moving in the government?
                  They shouted that now we are not dependent on oil prices .. And where?
                  1. +1
                    12 March 2020 17: 09
                    Your trouble. I’m not at all dependent on oil prices and much more. And I recommend you.
                    1. -1
                      13 March 2020 07: 16
                      You specifically may be. And this trouble is for the whole people of Russia, because somehow for some reason incomes start to fall for some reason as oil falls off and the rate grows
                2. -3
                  12 March 2020 10: 03
                  Your truth)) Someone who has been sitting for 20 years .. Here it falls ..
                  And he also wants to sit ..
        3. +1
          12 March 2020 11: 26
          Will you buy a fourth laptop, be surprised.
          1. +1
            12 March 2020 12: 09
            I will not buy, even the phone I do not want to update
            1. 0
              12 March 2020 13: 05
              Quote: Nastia Makarova
              I will not buy, even the phone I do not want to update

              Pour in coffee, the phone breaks, and so run. Or you will get the previous three from the mezzanines and you will arrange dances with a tambourine over them. wink
              1. -1
                12 March 2020 14: 33
                Well, if this happens then yes, you have to buy a more budget model
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  7. +3
    12 March 2020 06: 56
    On the eve of a meeting in Moscow with investors who noted that during the crisis it is advisable to pay attention to high-tech projects

    Blah blah blah. And not during the crisis - it is impractical, it turns out?
    1. -1
      12 March 2020 07: 02
      What a nonsense they carry ..
    2. +16
      12 March 2020 07: 15
      In the absence of a crisis, there is no need for high-tech industries, since oil revenues do not allow thinking about anything other than oil. laughing
      1. -1
        12 March 2020 07: 23
        High-tech industries require investments .. And where to get them during the crisis
        1. -1
          12 March 2020 10: 21
          In addition to investments, also time. It is not enough just to wave a wad of money, it will only attract scammers and other chubais.
      2. -1
        12 March 2020 11: 19
        Quote: Gene84
        oil revenues do not allow you to think about anything other than oil

        How is it about anything ?! What about yachts?
  8. +14
    12 March 2020 07: 02
    In general, Sechin’s speech was published at the trial of Ulyukaev, where he says that the critical price for Rosneft is $ 35 per barrel (this was already quite a while ago). Because of what then he tore and metal. When they talk about the cost of oil production, they are very cunning forgetting that the lion's share of the cost of production falls on transport. It is not Saudi Arabia, deflated, loaded it into a tanker right there and sent it. Here it is necessary to pump that to the west and to the east under 4-5 thousand kilometers, and in Siberia, for most of the year, heating the oil in the pipe so that it does not sag at all at operating pressure. In addition to eliminate pipeline accidents, frost heave and displacement, permafrost, summer subsidence during thawing. There are many problems.
    1. +7
      12 March 2020 07: 44
      It is not Saudi Arabia, deflated, loaded it into a tanker right there and sent it.

      And here is Saudi Arabia in the form of Aramco quotes
    2. -4
      12 March 2020 09: 29
      This adds respect to ALL oil workers!
    3. 0
      13 March 2020 09: 56
      Do you think there are few problems with production in Saudi Arabia? To completely stop production at Gavar, a swarm of drones at the oil processing plant was enough. And also, the capacity of the tanker fleet is limited, and with a sharp rise in demand, freight prices skyrocket. But "Druzhba" both pumped and pumped, and facilities in Rotterdam are not needed for transshipment.
      1. 0
        13 March 2020 11: 14
        Friendship here recently, by the way, got a stake due to pollution with organochlorine
        1. 0
          13 March 2020 11: 40
          "Friendship" works, it's a fact.
  9. 0
    12 March 2020 07: 04
    According to a federal government official, the cost is between $ 9 and $ 20 per barrel.
    The Arab costs are lower, it is not surprising, but the message is not clear. There is a market volume and so far there is no way without us. request They can find somewhere else, the Chinese have mastered shale and at the expense of cheap labor and their printing press ....... Yes, and Indonesia on the shelf, it may well make discoveries, but the costs ..., although not in the Arctic, but also go bite. So 20 bucks, well ... with him. request
  10. +7
    12 March 2020 07: 08
    The point is that the "price war" will continue. Russia will fight for markets with the CA and the UAE ...
    I suspect that the tip of the iceberg that we see is not exactly what is actually happening. It is necessary to look at the USA. And how will the state support of "shale" oil be carried out there. Since the industry may not survive without it ...
    1. +12
      12 March 2020 07: 48
      With a low world oil price, its role in the United States from goods for export will change to fuel from imports. The United States can quickly switch from seller to buyer. Given that Trump wants to increase US production capacity, the low price of oil as a fuel for the United States is beneficial. Also, the low price of gasoline, in times of crisis - for US citizens it is an outlet. And the shale industry will be frozen for a while. Someone may burn it out, but in general this is not so critical.
      Venezuela, namely, its current government, was not particularly lucky ..
    2. 0
      13 March 2020 00: 45
      some kind of nonsense! if everyone broadcasts that every consumer is imprisoned for a certain oil, then how can Russia qualify for the Saudi market or vice versa ???
  11. for
    0
    12 March 2020 07: 26

    After the decision of Iraq and Kuwait to increase production volumes and lower oil selling prices, prices for “black gold” in the world market began to fall again.

    Our production costs have fallen.
  12. 0
    12 March 2020 07: 30
    9-20 is the cost price without taxes. With taxes somewhere around 15-25 (and this is without the cost of transportation). Now Brent is trading at 34, but OPEC countries have announced discounts on futures, which just puts oil production in Russia at zero profitability.
  13. +2
    12 March 2020 07: 35
    Quote: Malyuta
    Recovered! When oil was at more than $ 100, no one "scratched" at the expense of high-tech industries, then they simply shoved money into their pockets, and now they want not only to have oil from oil, but also to cut the budget.
    Now they will beg for tax breaks, state subsidies and state loans non-repayable.
    During this crisis, the number of billionaires in the Russian Federation will increase significantly.

    And if cheap gas is added to cheap oil, then there is a depressing impression of the mental abilities of the country's leaders. What did they think when prices were at their peak?
    1. 0
      13 March 2020 00: 47
      about blackjacks and whores on the Cote d'Azur)
  14. +2
    12 March 2020 07: 39
    Stability is GDP as head of state

    Everything else - the ruble exchange rate, the state of the economy, the standard of living of the population - do not matter
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  16. -3
    12 March 2020 07: 50
    Our government, hiding behind various phrases, has long failed to fulfill its social obligations. In particular, indexations to military pensioners are carried out with a decreasing coefficient, plus to that - inopportune, and another plus - the announced inflation figure is medium-ceiling. IMHO.
  17. +1
    12 March 2020 08: 00
    More fairy tales ... Perhaps I will compile the collection "Tales to the peoples of Russia". It will be aimless
    1. +1
      12 March 2020 11: 24
      Quote: regdan
      bezzer

      What is this? belay I don’t know why, but I’ll definitely buy it!
    2. 0
      12 March 2020 23: 25
      It will be a bezel
      In my opinion it will be even worse than the "bezceller".
  18. -3
    12 March 2020 08: 00
    Recall that earlier the Ministry of Finance announced the following: with oil prices in the region of 25-30 dollars per barrel, reserves will last for 6-10 years.

    Statement from a series of blah, blah, blah.
    Of course, it’s not enough, because lowering the price of oil is not only a loss of budget revenues, it is also a decrease in the revenues of the oil and related companies themselves, which will entail a decrease in investment in both production and exploration and maintenance of infrastructure, which will entail a decrease in oil production.
    Then, when the economy enters the recession, and no one doubts this, all budget revenues will decrease. unemployment and inflation will increase (and there is nothing you can do to ensure that the guarantor is reset, amendments must be made, and among them, indexation of pensions), which will also be the budget expenses.
    In short, the tale of 6-10 years is like a promise of GDP that will happen by 2010. 2020, etc., etc.
    in short everything will go much faster. but let's be honest, oil prices will increase, and this crisis will end sometime.
    At the same time, of course, the year when Russia grows overweight is pushed back to an uncertain future. and therefore, in the year 2033, someone will reset to zero again laughing
  19. -5
    12 March 2020 08: 01
    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    Quote: edeligor
    It has already been calculated that the Russian Federation will last the longest, under conditions of dumping prices by the Saudis.

    And who calculated this?

    An article in inforuss "Putin was not joking:" If a fight is inevitable, you must hit first. "
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  21. +3
    12 March 2020 08: 35
    I don’t get into politics, but a fright appears when they start to say how we will get through the dignity crisis, that they will keep the price of gas, when the oil dips, the crisis should not affect citizens.

    I barely managed to buy equipment at the facility, sell steel exchanges and a number of video surveillance positions in dollars. Although they still trade in old lots of hucksters

    I understand that now little is dependent on our government, but high-tech production and science need to be developed and not talked about when it comes to .... you can talk for years or you can not talk and take and make a hospital like the Chinese in a week
    1. -3
      12 March 2020 12: 32
      At the moment, primarily in China, it was precisely high-tech production that was blown away.
  22. +3
    12 March 2020 08: 35
    I know how to reduce the cost of oil production to compete with the Arabs. let in Rosneft, Lukoil, etc. all staff including tops are now working for food. huge savings on salaries and deductions from ph.
    everything for the front, everything for the victory!
    1. +1
      13 March 2020 00: 51
      but for such thoughts you can put a party card on the table!
  23. -4
    12 March 2020 08: 52
    The price of oil includes the cost of its production, repayment of borrowed funds, investment in the development of new fields and excise taxes.

    Therefore, the minimum oil price in the United States is $ 45, in Russia - $ 42, in Saudi Arabia - $ 40.
  24. 0
    12 March 2020 09: 02
    The price of oil is still falling, OPEC or not OPEC.
    And by selling more, our people just want to earn a little dope, they do not believe that it will be possible to slow down the fall.

    So at least take advantage ...
  25. +1
    12 March 2020 09: 17
    Quote: atalef

    what nonsense ??
    What do you think this would not have been seen? Or do you think blocks of stock are being sold?


    atalef, well, by golly there you are already so used to normal exchange activities that you don’t know that in Russia there are several non-public securities markets and over-the-counter transactions of fantastic volumes - a harsh prose of life. Well, the constant divorce of minors by insiders on public exchanges, such as the MICEX laughing
  26. +1
    12 March 2020 09: 29
    According to a federal government official, the cost is between $ 9 and $ 20 per barrel.

    We take the arithmetic average per barrel - $ 15, from one barrel of oil we get 85 liters of gasoline. We do not take into account the price of a barrel of brand oil, we focus on the domestic market. 1 $ = 73 wooden, 15 * 73 = 1090 rubles, the price is for 85 liters of gasoline, excluding production costs, from here a liter of gasoline is 13 rubles, the price of gas stations is 45 rubles 3,75 times, this is how our beloved state is fighting with us, and the monopolists oligarchs. In Kazakhstan, a liter of 95 costs 28 rubles, they buy it from us.
    1. 0
      12 March 2020 23: 30
      You need to understand how much of these 45 rubles goes to the budget in the form of excise taxes and taxes. A lot goes away.
      1. +1
        13 March 2020 05: 18
        It’s all understandable, excise taxes, taxes, VAT, it’s not easier for the people, break the price and sell it for a mound for a million, but in the domestic market the price should be acceptable to the people, and this is all robbery and super greed.
        1. +1
          13 March 2020 10: 01
          If it’s not easier, do you think nothing comes from this money in retirement and other materiel? Free gas was in Venezuela and Turkmenistan, and what did they end up with?
  27. -1
    12 March 2020 10: 44
    You just need to launch nuclear missiles on the deposits of the Saudis, Kuwait and that’s all ... The price will return to the place ...
    1. 0
      12 March 2020 11: 31
      Quote: Dzafdet
      You just need to launch nuclear missile strikes on Saudito deposits

      You just need to take a closer look at how other countries live without oil? For example, in China, in Japan, in Korea, and in most European countries there is no trace of oil. And they don’t even know that the country's budget should be tied to the price of oil. But, nevertheless, they live and prosper, expand their economies. How do they manage to do this without oil? .....
      1. +1
        12 March 2020 13: 08
        The Chinese live like us, only without winter and the ensuing. Japas with Koreans do not live at all, but exist. In Europe and the CGA we went cuckoo. Well, maybe in New Zealand, back and forth, but I’d better live in my own madhouse, with all its shortcomings and a complete administration.
      2. 0
        12 March 2020 17: 01
        That, after all, many people, it is not clear how they live in Russia quite well, with picnics and barbecue, cars and cottages, resorts, neat children. Feasts with friends roll up. How do you manage ?! And others, as they themselves write, always starve, barefoot and naked, cry in their voices, orphaned and wretched ... Why so?
  28. 0
    12 March 2020 12: 08
    that is, Russian citizens overpay heavily for gasoline, which is made from folk oil? .. Who would have thought ...
  29. -1
    12 March 2020 12: 58
    Something is not believed. Did you include the cost of transportation there? What about the deterioration of infrastructure? And what about social obligations to industry workers?
    I had to hear other numbers. Closer to 30.
  30. 0
    12 March 2020 13: 08
    Quote: atalef
    Quote: Gene84
    It won't end well.

    It’s not at all clear what the hell Russia got into this war from.
    She needs it 7
    I was in OPEC +, well, I would continue. prices due to the crown would sag a bit. but not so.
    Remember the past years. no economic war of the Russian Federation won.
    Nobody yells - More sanctions.
    Dollar rules like rules
    Why the heck ??? Not clear.

    Everything is not as simple as it seems. Give yourself time, get acquainted with the economic indicators of Saudi Arabia. You will find many interesting things. In particular, a budget deficit of $ 70 billion and difficulties in providing state social services. obligations before these events.

    Also get acquainted with the theoretical maximum of their oil production per day and the number of explored deposits.

    Survey Results You a little surprise.
  31. +3
    12 March 2020 13: 42
    Quote: Ryaruav
    high-tech projects - it’s skolkovo, nano-chubais true payback zilch but the mountains shoveled money

    We look carefully Yes

  32. +1
    12 March 2020 18: 58
    Quote: Gritsa
    It would be possible to compete if our revenues from the sale of oil went to the country's budget. And not in the pockets of oil oligarchs. And then, respectively, over the hill.

    And how did the country's gold reserves form in this case? From the sale of seeds?
  33. -1
    12 March 2020 20: 05
    Therefore, Sechin and Miller constantly tax incentives for Rosneft and Gazprom and ask
  34. 0
    13 March 2020 02: 49
    hmmm, one called me today, and insistently, offered to invest in stocks on the stock exchange, like: oil will rebound and everything will be super-duper, you just put in the money ... they’ve got everything, they know everything.
    Well, why only he needed my money, I would invest OWN, otherwise I’d risk someone else’s money, ANY business.)

    ps
    in fact, Coronovirus seriously hit manufacturers, people’s expectations, tourism, followed by air / iron / auto and any other traffic, borders were closed, in some countries Quarantine. It’s also going to hit production, people are sitting at home. And it’s all hitting the oil, nuuu, it can’t fall and the oil remains in price.

    if you reduce it, there are risks that illegal production, and shale, which is outside the agreements ... will take the market away, so now is the time to belittle illegal immigrants, and shale. IF NOT NOW WHEN TO DO IT? .....

    USA ... well, I think they will simply lift the sanctions from Venezuela, and will buy oil at $ 30.
  35. 0
    13 March 2020 06: 38
    And to compensate for losses, as the people will always ... hi
  36. 0
    13 March 2020 09: 23
    For the Saudis, everything is not so simple, it used to be possible to simply pump "from a pipe", the pressure simply carried oil to the surface. Now there, as elsewhere, hydraulic fracturing, pumping equipment, pressure maintenance, crude oil refineries ...
  37. 0
    13 March 2020 19: 32
    Quote: bayard
    Bankruptcies and disruptions will follow, curtailing the shale industry as unprofitable, freeing up markets for normal suppliers. And when everything settles down and stabilizes, prices will rise again to the mark necessary for the market

    The shale industry will again be deployed as cost-effective, and oil production will exceed demand. Oil prices will fall again - this song is endless, start over. As a result, oil prices will fluctuate near the level of profitability of shale oil production, which has already decreased several times
  38. 0
    13 March 2020 20: 45
    Quote: ROSS_51
    Now the deputy. Siluanova (some kind of woman), stupidly: Babla heaps, we will sit out until $ 60 again.

    The price will not be higher than the profitability of shale oil production, and it only decreases

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