In the United States tested the accuracy of the operational tactical hypersonic missile PrSM

In the United States tested the accuracy of the operational tactical hypersonic missile PrSM

The second flight tests of the promising tactical hypersonic PrSM (Precision Strike Missile, high-precision missile) pass in the United States. According to Lockheed Martin, the missile was tested for accuracy, reliability of on-board systems, as well as an assessment of the power of the warhead of the missile.


Launched in 2017, the Precision Strike Missile (PrSM) program involves the creation of a new generation of high-precision operational-tactical missiles with a speed of more than 5 Mach numbers and an official initially declared range of 60 to 499 km, but the development was carried out taking into account the US withdrawal from the INF Treaty. According to reports, the rocket is now capable of flying up to 550 km, and according to other sources - up to 700-750 km. The new hypersonic missile is being developed as a replacement for the obsolete ammunition of the ATACMS operational tactical systems, in addition, the military is also considering the possibility of using the new ammunition on the M270A1 MLRS and M142 HIMARS multiple launch rocket systems.

As previously stated by American General John Rafferty, the rocket developed by Lockheed Martin Corporation is primarily designed to overcome Russian air defense in the European theater of war. In the Asia-Pacific region, this missile will be used to destroy Chinese warships.

On December 10, Lockheed Martin Corp. conducted the first test of the Precision Strike Missile (PrSM) promising tactical missile at the White Sands US missile range in New Mexico. The prototype was launched from the M142 launcher of the HIMARS missile system and flew about 240 km to the target area. The corporation said that "the test was successful with all the set goals."

In the future, the new missile should replace the Lockheed Martin MGM-140 ATACMS tactical missiles. Serial production is planned for the 2023 year.
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  1. Azazelo 11 March 2020 15: 58 New
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    It's time to take Cuba to the federation (the Republic of Cuba - it sounds), but to establish calibers with calibers ....
    1. For example 11 March 2020 16: 02 New
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      Cuba has long been a republic.
      It's time for you to learn geography.
      1. For example 11 March 2020 16: 11 New
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        Not clear ballistic missile or what?
        For a ballistic speed of more than five max, no problem.
        What does the hyper sound have to do with it?
        1. shahor 11 March 2020 16: 46 New
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          Quote: For example
          For a ballistic speed of more than five max, no problem.
          What does the hyper sound have to do with it?

          Well, do we have the aeroballistic dagger considered hypersonic? Can't they?
        2. businessv 11 March 2020 17: 01 New
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          Quote: For example
          For a ballistic speed of more than five max, no problem.
          What does the hyper sound have to do with it?

          Analog of our Iskanders
          1. Bulgarian 11 March 2020 17: 28 New
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            Iskanr flies along a quasi-ballistic trajectory, i.e. maneuvers.
            1. businessv 11 March 2020 21: 58 New
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              Quote: Bulgarian
              Iskanr flies along a quasi-ballistic trajectory, i.e. maneuvers.

              And who is arguing? This one is also not ballistic, just fast tactical.
              The new hypersonic missile is being developed as a replacement for the obsolete ammunition of the ATACMS tactical systems; in addition, the military is also considering the possibility of using the new ammunition on multiple launch rocket systems
        3. Grigory_45 11 March 2020 17: 53 New
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          Quote: For example
          ballistic missile or what?

          ballistic of course

          Quote: For example
          What does the hyper sound have to do with it?

          now everyone is called this fashionable word ... Soon the prefix "hypersonic" will be glued to ICBMs, spacecraft, and all will be happy ..
          1. businessv 11 March 2020 21: 56 New
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            Quote: Gregory_45
            ballistic of course

            The new hypersonic missile is being developed as a replacement for the obsolete ammunition of the ATACMS tactical systems; in addition, the military is also considering the possibility of using the new ammunition on multiple launch rocket systems
            How can a ballistic missile be used in MLRS?
            1. Grigory_45 11 March 2020 22: 11 New
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              Quote: businessv
              How can a ballistic missile be used in MLRS?

              the Americans MLRS created by a modular scheme. Containers with NAR, or a container with a tactical missile, can be loaded, turning the installation into an OTRK
              What M270 MLRS, what HIMARS (with BRMD they are ATACMS)

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              2. businessv 11 March 2020 22: 42 New
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                Quote: Gregory_45
                the Americans MLRS created by a modular scheme.
                Thank you! drinks
            2. mac789 12 March 2020 13: 57 New
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              Everything has been adapted there for a long time.
      2. sabakina 11 March 2020 17: 44 New
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        Quote: For example
        Cuba has long been a republic.
        It's time for you to learn geography.

        Interestingly, you connected geography and political system together ... recourse
        1. tihonmarine 11 March 2020 18: 32 New
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          Quote: sabakina
          Interestingly, you connected geography and political system

          This is true, because if we take geography, then there is a small piece of another state.
        2. maidan.izrailovich 12 March 2020 04: 29 New
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          sabakina (Vyacheslav (Russia))
          Interestingly, you linked geography and political order ... recourse

          You don’t need to bind anything there. there is political geography.
          Political geography is a socio-geographical science that studies the territorial differentiation of political phenomena and processes.
          Those who studied in Soviet times are well aware of this.
    2. vkl.47 11 March 2020 16: 03 New
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      That's for sure. And all the time they tell them that all this is not against you. It's for a barrier with Samali pirates and al-Qaeda.
      1. Honest Citizen 11 March 2020 16: 07 New
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        this is for the barriers with Samali pirates and al Qaeda.

        I suggest even trickier. We protect the United States from North Korea.
        1. Lelek 11 March 2020 17: 21 New
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          Quote: Honest Citizen
          We protect the United States from North Korea.

          hi
          Already done it at the World Cup.
          1. SovAr238A 11 March 2020 22: 23 New
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            Quote: Lelek

            Already done it at the World Cup.

            oh and nonsense is written ...
        2. bayard 11 March 2020 20: 09 New
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          Quote: Honest Citizen

          I suggest even trickier. We protect the United States from North Korea.

          For such a noble cause, it is necessary to deploy the S-500 and the S radar and SPRN radars there, and to ensure this wealth the naval base and the airborne forces base, coastal missile systems, Iskander-M and ground-based caliber.
          All for Peace! yes bully
    3. ABM
      ABM 11 March 2020 16: 07 New
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      It’s expensive to carry a round-trip budget. Belarus is not ready for integration, but here Cuba
      1. For example 11 March 2020 16: 21 New
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        Belarus is not ready for integration

        This is not ready for Lukashenko.
        This even domestic war called strangers.
        True communist wassat
        Grandfather Lukashenko is Ukrainian. And the grandfather at the grandfather turned out to be a Belarusian. wassat
        Good for you! good

        Just grandfather was born in the Russian Empire and could not know that he was actually a Belarusian. laughing
        1. tihonmarine 11 March 2020 18: 35 New
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          Quote: For example
          True communist

          Yes, he’s a normal man when he digs potatoes in his garden.
      2. Grits 12 March 2020 01: 42 New
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        It’s expensive to carry a round-trip budget. Belarus is not ready for integration, but here Cuba

        It is not so much a matter of price, but of whether Cuba will agree to it?
    4. SovAr238A 11 March 2020 16: 40 New
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      Quote: Azazelo
      It's time to take Cuba to the federation (the Republic of Cuba - it sounds), but to establish calibers with calibers ....


      Cuba will send anyone who wants to "take" them ...

      Especially those who want only rockets ...
    5. behappy 11 March 2020 20: 17 New
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      Quote: Azazelo
      It's time to take Cuba to the federation

      Yes, you at least take the Donbass to the federation ..
      And then - as it seems to me - they in Cuba are aching from such integration ... humconvoys, vacationers, Cossacks .. and what is integration about? in the sensation Afig perspective for Cuba! Fidel would cry.
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    6. Chingachguk 11 March 2020 21: 09 New
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      As part of Russia, you probably meant to take Cuba !? And what! Cuba would be a real partner and friend, not like Belarus .....! Luke Runs everywhere, bows, bends, and everywhere drives Russia! Sense from him zero! The parasite is real! Komarados will not do this !!!!! They did not get fat like Belarus on other people's grub !!!!! So who is there for making an offer to Cuba and accepting it as part of the Russian Federation !!! ??? laughing
    7. yang174 11 March 2020 22: 51 New
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      it's time hypersonic missile defense
  2. Operator 11 March 2020 16: 12 New
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    Hammers Americans: for the second time they tested their supersonic OTP PrSM - 14 years after the adoption of the Russian hypersonic Iskander laughing

    5M - seeds for S-350 and S-400.
    1. SovAr238A 11 March 2020 16: 48 New
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      Quote: Operator
      Hammers Americans: for the second time they tested their supersonic OTP PrSM - 14 years after the adoption of the Russian hypersonic Iskander laughing

      5M - seeds for S-350 and S-400.


      Yes Yes...
      Seeds ...
      Within a week, NATO will be able to place at least 500 MLRS and about 200 HIMARS on any theater of operations, which will give them the opportunity to make a salvo of 1200 OTP PrSM.
      Just a technical opportunity.

      We don’t and never will have such a number of missiles and launchers for the S-350 and S-400 ...

      Overloaded by 500%.

      And 700 launchers indicated by me - this is only half of what is in service with the United States and NATO.

      So think about sunflower seeds ...
      1. NEXUS 11 March 2020 17: 12 New
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        Quote: SovAr238A
        Within a week, NATO will be able to place at least 500 MLRS and about 200 HIMARS on any theater of operations, which will give them the opportunity to make a salvo of 1200 OTP PrSM.
        Just a technical opportunity.

        We don’t and never will have such a number of missiles and launchers for the S-350 and S-400 ...

        Yes, it’s foolish to place so many SAMs in a specific narrow direction, but ... as soon as the first batch of American CRs rises in our direction, some part of the KR with special warheads rises from our side, which in a very short time, all that shot there and tried to fly up into dust and glass, for, our respected doctrine, we must carefully read it, and then write about volleys, placement, etc. ...
        1. V.I.P. 11 March 2020 17: 57 New
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          Do you believe that?)))) Even the USSR was afraid to use nuclear weapons. Only the Americans dared and applied ... ... And about, as soon as ... SU-24, IL-20-shot down, the Americans burned the infantry with the help of MLRS (but there, after all, it was not the military personnel who said, but the PMCs didn’t sorry) ..
          1. NEXUS 11 March 2020 18: 20 New
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            Quote: V.I.P.
            Do you believe that?))))

            Read our defense doctrine and don't ask stupid questions anymore.
            1. SovAr238A 11 March 2020 21: 07 New
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              Quote: NEXUS
              Quote: V.I.P.
              Do you believe that?))))

              Read our defense doctrine and don't ask stupid questions anymore.


              the presence of text in the defense doctrine is not a fact of the presence of a 100% linearly executable algorithm of actions.

              A lot has been written on the fences ...
              1. NEXUS 11 March 2020 23: 32 New
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                Quote: SovAr238A
                the presence of text in the defense doctrine is not a fact of the presence of a 100% linearly executable algorithm of actions.

                Are you seriously? If you hit a thousand axes in our territory, what is your name? Like oh we joked? What doctrine is generally written, dear?
                What algorithm of actions can be in general if a massive missile strike is launched across our territory? What is not yet a linear algorithm crept into your head?
                Quote: SovAr238A
                A lot has been written on the fences ...

                On the fences and read, since the mind is not enough to understand that a massive missile strike on the territory of any state is an automatic declaration of war on this state, with all that it implies and countermeasures.
                1. SovAr238A 11 March 2020 23: 58 New
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                  Quote: NEXUS

                  Are you seriously? If you hit a thousand axes in our territory, what is your name? Like oh we joked? What doctrine is generally written, dear?


                  Yes seriously!

                  Because in our time - not a single power-owning conglomerate of court billionaires with a bunch of real estate abroad, with children abroad, with their existing lifestyle does not want to turn into dust or basement rats hiding forever and ever!

                  Even if the children are not abroad, even if the children are here - all the same, everyone will die and he himself will die, and loved ones and loved ones will also die ...

                  Are you personally ready to kill your near and dear ones if the greyhound neighbor starts breaking your fence on your plot and cutting down a couple of your trees?
                  Are you ready to burn someone else’s house with his household at night, knowing that your children and your wife and you will be burned in the same second?
                  Over the fence and a couple of trees!

                  So did not try to think about our supreme military commanders and court rulers?
                  that they are people too and live according to human laws?

                  Well, think about it ...
                  1. NEXUS 12 March 2020 00: 18 New
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                    Quote: SovAr238A
                    Because in our time - not a single power-owning conglomerate of court billionaires with a bunch of real estate abroad, with children abroad

                    If only they had come up with something new for this idiocy. For seven years they have been fasting this nonsense and are not shy.
                    I have no more questions. Adies.
                    1. SovAr238A 12 March 2020 07: 21 New
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                      Quote: NEXUS
                      Quote: SovAr238A
                      Because in our time - not a single power-owning conglomerate of court billionaires with a bunch of real estate abroad, with children abroad

                      If only they had come up with something new for this idiocy. For seven years they have been fasting this nonsense and are not shy.
                      I have no more questions. Adies.


                      This idiocy is the fruit of my reasoning.
                      Back in 2016, I was an ardent ZaPutinets.
                      Once, Andrei, together with you, I attacked an opponent on this site for his anti-Putin views. He was a liberal.

                      I really believed that no one in our country is sensible except him.


                      But in recent years, disgust and denial of Putin and his fellow friends have come.
                      That huge level of corruption that is around us.
                      Maybe the work gave an additional impetus. He began to travel more around the country, to see more, to communicate more often with a higher circle of people and notice first and later already, just to see everyone who “makes money” on what and how it all goes away


                      I hated earlier and now I hate all this Echo-Moscow liberal clique. Bulk - I also do not count as just a person, and politics is about the forest.


                      Now inside is just emptiness.
                      There is no place for liberalism.
                      But there is no faith in Putin and there will not be, and only an aversion to his "zeroing" ...
                  2. malyvalv 12 March 2020 05: 58 New
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                    If it was as you write, then they would not need hundreds of tactical and thousands of cruise missiles. Everything would be solved much easier. And it does not fit logically with such costs.
          2. Dog
            Dog 11 March 2020 22: 55 New
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            Quote: V.I.P.
            Dare

            Dare? Dare to kick the recumbent on the head without fear of an answer?
            The word "courage", from which you used "dare" is formed, in Russian has a completely different meaning.
          3. smile 12 March 2020 02: 45 New
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            V.I.P.
            "SU-24, IL-20-shot down, the Americans burned the infantry with the help of MLRS (but there, after all, it was not the military personnel who said, but the PMCs are not sorry for these) .."

            Sir, your strange desire to put everything in a heap betrays in you a seasoned representative of the sect of pan-and-leg and children like Ksenia Albats ...
            The answer is:
            1. For Su 24, which was shot down by the Turks. Turks paid thousands of lives as their citizens. so the Turkmens, in response to this atrocity, and the killing of one of the pilots, our aviation burned more than four thousand docks with carriers and mixed with the rocky ground the positions of the Turkmens in the area where our pilot died.
            Vidyushechkami about such sad events was polluted the entire segment of Turkish and our tyrnet, and all youtube.
            That is, they paid several thousand Turkish Orthodox lives for one pilot.
            Yeah. further, Putin’s statement - about tomatoes - was an obvious mockery, although even here they were tamed. and they suffered quite tangible material losses, except for several thousand corpses and a pile of broken equipment. This time
            2. Il 20 shot down by the Syrians. Of course - if not for the Jews - the Syrians would not have shot him down. As a result. in Syria deployed air defense systems. who would never have been placed there, and the Jews were forced to remain silent. Well, and something else that is immaterial :)))
            I agree - the rather weak answer is much weaker than Turkey for one pilot. But what should have been done for the joint of the Syrians? To start a war with Israel? What is the meaning of this war? It doesn’t matter who beat whom - I think. that, straining, we could completely neutralize them. having spent serious resources and not having acquired absolutely any benefits ... For so long no one has been fighting ... This is not an idea. Yes, even before, when there were ideas - from the time of the Crusades - the foundation of the war always had a very tangible economic or political meaning ... here it is not for us. Absolutely ....
            Understand - I, like and for - need to punish. But are you sure that it is by direct actions, in this case? I repeat - we were able to shit Israel for the killing of our pilots. But not directly and not like the Turks.
            3. Now the Americans have already killed our all-pervading millionth pitchers from the MLRS ... :)))) yeah, at first there were eight. then about two dozen, then under a hundred, then the races reached 400 .... Damn, you write on a site where all this is very partisan on all sides, and where it’s hard to lie ... and you are here like a lark on January XNUMX - pee-pee-pee - I want to take it off right on the take-off - I’m already lying! :))))
            I don’t even want to discuss it - sorry, but you are a liar. I don’t know for what reason what drives you - but you are a real liar. or a fool who repeats stupid tales, including the execution of our MLRS midwives, who have come up with idiots in order to deceive the degenerates in hope. that oligophrenics will believe you.
            Good luck in your field. I am sorry for your completely duped children.
        2. Muxalet 11 March 2020 18: 37 New
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          NATO has more than 600 bases around the world ... And if the US specials. The warhead will simply suffer the civilian population, and the entire military infrastructure of the states is located around the world. Then the answer will come, "Mom Do not Cry." The states can simultaneously gulp more than 1000 missiles against 600 Russia + 2000 KR Tomahawk. In the second wave, NATO will join, and this is about 4000 KR, not counting which are with YaB. After the first wave, there will be nobody and nothing to meet the second
          1. NEXUS 11 March 2020 18: 44 New
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            Quote: Muxalet
            After the first wave, there will be nobody and nothing to meet the second

            In order to concentrate such a volley with axes, for this it is necessary to concentrate a large number of marine carriers in a relatively narrow direction ... and suddenly your mind suddenly thought that this would go unnoticed by our intelligence? Have you seriously written this nonsense about thousands of axes?
            1. Muxalet 11 March 2020 20: 22 New
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              Yes, they have every battered destroyer and submarine armed with tomahawks + ground-based all over the world and all modifications. Remember the volley over the Afghanistan ... fire show ... Only 64 destroyers of the Arly Burke type in formation, the capacity of two AUJs Mk41 systems "- 90/96 cells. Here and count. It is only in the USA + submarines
              1. NEXUS 11 March 2020 20: 30 New
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                Quote: Muxalet
                Only 64 destroyers of the “Arly Burke” type are in service, the capacity of two VPU Mk41 systems of the “Aegis” is 90/96 cells. Here and count. It is only in the USA + submarines

                Now let's remember the third class, the multiplication table ... how many axes did you say in one salvo of 2000 pieces? Divide by 96 (in the peak case, if Berkam doesn’t care that they will not have RCC) ... and we get about 20 Berkov ... back to the first question, do you seriously think that this accumulation of so many carriers will go unnoticed by our intelligence?
                1. SovAr238A 11 March 2020 21: 20 New
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                  Quote: NEXUS
                  I return to the first question — Do you seriously think that this accumulation of so many carriers will go unnoticed by our intelligence?


                  And what from what our intelligence learns?
                  We suddenly appear in the bays of 40 destroyers with hundreds of calibers each and go out to meet the Berks?
                  Thousands of MiG-31s ​​with Daggers?
                  Or will laser beams fall from space?

                  Or will you be talking about nuclear doctrine again?

                  Yugoslavia.
                  Was she captured?
                  Or did they completely zero out the military infrastructure?
                  1. SovAr238A 11 March 2020 22: 27 New
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                    The team of minusers pulled up ...
                    Really don't like it?
                    Are you used to throwing caps and getting God's dew in your eyes?

                    Not otherwise, again the "order" sent out its instructions to minus ...
                    Adult children, degradants. pancake...
                    1. poquello 11 March 2020 22: 54 New
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                      Quote: SovAr238A
                      The team of minusers pulled up ...

                      yes it's time, write all sorts of nonsense
                      1. SovAr238A 11 March 2020 23: 34 New
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                        Quote: poquello
                        Quote: SovAr238A
                        The team of minusers pulled up ...

                        yes it's time, write all sorts of nonsense


                        Remember Yugoslavia ...

                        There were many haters too ...
                        And there were a lot of angry speeches.
                        And there was a throw at pristina.

                        But Yugoslavia is gone ...
                        Result.
                      2. poquello 12 March 2020 03: 04 New
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                        Remember Yugoslavia ...

                        you have a shitty memory (yes along the way and with everything else), with far from the best condition of the army, the problem was not in the Armed Forces, but in Yeltsin’s environment,
                      3. SovAr238A 12 March 2020 22: 55 New
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                        Quote: poquello
                        Quote: SovAr238A
                        Remember Yugoslavia ...

                        you have a shitty memory (yes along the way and with everything else), with far from the best condition of the army, the problem was not in the Armed Forces, but in Yeltsin’s environment,


                        You always have someone to blame ..
                        It used to be Brezhnev. then Gorbachev. then Yeltsin ...
                        The Tsar is always to blame ....

                        And the fact that the people are a thief - it’s not his fault, this is a king like that ...

                        Where did all these embezzler officials come from?
                        Where did these cops come from?

                        Have they arrived from space?


                        They are here and now.

                        And now the correct answer, which you, the fool, is across the throat.
                        This national trait is embezzlement.
                        A little power appeared - immediately steal.
                        Someone more, someone less.
                        After all, most of us are always glad to see a friend who is a traffic cop ...
                        Friend-official.
                        They ask him to help as much as possible - thereby encouraging corruption.
                        They, these embezzlers and corrupt officials, left our classes at school, ran in the same yard as you ...
                        Not from space.
                        But
                        None of you have refused to communicate with them.
                        This is your duplicity.

                        Here you are a super patriot, but as you violated - immediately run to a familiar traffic cop - I will help, brother ...
                2. Dog
                  Dog 11 March 2020 23: 09 New
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                  Quote: SovAr238A
                  Really don't like it?

                  The possibility of "zeroing the military infrastructure of the Russian Federation" with axes with a range of less than 2 thousand km - is this, in your opinion, right?
                  Or do you call your hopes the truth that in the event of an attack on our country we will not give an answer to all that is required (up to nuclear weapons)?
                  Or maybe the truth is that everyone here is degraded, except you?

                  Do you really think that you’re not carrying hackneyed nonsense to VO users, but great revelations?
                  1. SovAr238A 11 March 2020 23: 32 New
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                    Quote: Dog
                    Quote: SovAr238A
                    Really don't like it?

                    The possibility of "zeroing the military infrastructure of the Russian Federation" with axes with a range of less than 2 thousand km - is this, in your opinion, right?
                    Or do you call your hopes the truth that in the event of an attack on our country we will not give an answer to all that is required (up to nuclear weapons)?
                    Or maybe the truth is that everyone here is degraded, except you?

                    Do you really think that you’re not carrying hackneyed nonsense to VO users, but great revelations?


                    Do you really think that from your everyday fussing we get an extra destroyer every time?
                    Or each cap thrown by you turns into a Su-35?

                    When will you learn to face the truth?

                    The country is now reminiscent of a drunk young guy who, on a courage, "runs out in all directions", having nothing behind his back ... Except for his father’s gun in the house, in the safe box under the lock.
                    And he "craps out" on the street, and as often happens, he can row ...
                    From any passerby.
                    How we raided from Turkey ...
                    How raked from Pakistan ...

                    The world is changing.

                    Nobody needs nuclear war.
                    And even more so to our military commanders, who reset the deadlines and make a life president. But not because he is good, but because all this retinue of billionaires (and for some reason all the wives and children of all near-presidential leaders are brilliant financiers), another 15 years of such a comfortable life is needed.
                    And they need a war in the form of a conflict in order to “rally the people” from “alien aggression”.
                    That would not be bad thoughts ...
                    No matter what, why the standard of living of the past 13 years, everything has been falling and falling ...

                    There will be no retaliatory nuclear strike on local conflict.

                    And the situation in Syria just provides the basis for a local conflict.
                    We are really in a stalemate.
                    We will be pressed easily at any time by sanctions and no one will pickle.
                    Even China does not pick up.
                    How many bravura speeches were said that China would finance us instead of Western banks, that I don’t care about Western sanctions?
                    And nevermind - not a single yuan of financing. Even the Power of Siberia had to be completed with its own money, without waiting for the next tranches.
                    When 50% of the orders of the military are frustrated due to the refusal of countries, even in existing contracts.
                    And, unambiguously, everyone refuses to conclude new contracts, since our military-industrial complex is all on the sanctions list.
                    What we shall do?
                    The turbines are outboard, imported automation, imported cellular communications, 60% of imported food, all imported equipment or made using imported components that we have no analogues.

                    Will we turn into North Korea?
                  2. Grits 12 March 2020 01: 55 New
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                    Quote: SovAr238A
                    Will we turn into North Korea?

                    Maybe then it’s better to turn into the Soviet Union? Everything was there ... without import.
                  3. Shuttle 12 March 2020 04: 14 New
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                    Quote: Gritsa
                    Quote: SovAr238A
                    Will we turn into North Korea?

                    Maybe then it’s better to turn into the Soviet Union? Everything was there ... without import.

                    And here I am, by the way, and do not mind. He lived there, studied, worked. Of course, there were some flaws. Who does not have them? But a working person could officially send any wise guy except the Secretary General to an edren-fen. And for this the little one did not fly. And now you can even double bass in the comments with or without comment. But try to say something about your employer and in a moment you will find out why a pound of raisins.
                  4. SovAr238A 12 March 2020 07: 49 New
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                    Quote: Shuttle
                    Quote: Gritsa
                    Quote: SovAr238A
                    Will we turn into North Korea?

                    Maybe then it’s better to turn into the Soviet Union? Everything was there ... without import.

                    And here I am, by the way, and do not mind. He lived there, studied, worked. Of course, there were some flaws. Who does not have them? But a working person could officially send any wise guy except the Secretary General to an edren-fen. And for this the little one did not fly. And now you can even double bass in the comments with or without comment. But try to say something about your employer and in a moment you will find out why a pound of raisins.


                    It’s immediately obvious that in Soviet times you didn’t live.
                    How many abusive ditties and steamy jokes about the same Brezhnev were?

                    unmeasured.
                    Everywhere they spoke without shy especially. And in the workshop smoking rooms, and on the streets, and even more so in families.
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                    Quote: SovAr238A
                    Quote: Shuttle
                    Quote: Gritsa
                    Quote: SovAr238A
                    Will we turn into North Korea?

                    Maybe then it’s better to turn into the Soviet Union? Everything was there ... without import.

                    And here I am, by the way, and do not mind. He lived there, studied, worked. Of course, there were some flaws. Who does not have them? But a working person could officially send any wise guy except the Secretary General to an edren-fen. And for this the little one did not fly. And now you can even double bass in the comments with or without comment. But try to say something about your employer and in a moment you will find out why a pound of raisins.


                    It’s immediately obvious that in Soviet times you didn’t live.
                    How many abusive ditties and steamy jokes about the same Brezhnev were?

                    unmeasured.
                    Everywhere they spoke without shy especially. And in the workshop smoking rooms, and on the streets, and even more so in families.

                    You do not confuse the joke with criticism.
                  6. SovAr238A 12 March 2020 22: 46 New
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                    Quote: Shuttle

                    You do not confuse the joke with criticism.

                    I understand that you never heard anything about Brezhnev ... in the 70s and 80s ...

                    Because you wrote such garbage ...
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                    I understand that you never heard anything about Brezhnev ... in the 70s and 80s ...

                    Because you wrote such garbage ...

                    What kind of bullshit did we write?
          2. SovAr238A 12 March 2020 07: 32 New
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            Quote: Gritsa
            Quote: SovAr238A
            Will we turn into North Korea?

            Maybe then it’s better to turn into the Soviet Union? Everything was there ... without import.


            What was there without import then?


            Machine tools in factories are 90% imported. At least at 9GPZ and at 18 aircraft factory.
            25% of the grain was imported.
            Planting stock of almost all crops was imported.
            Cattle breeding stock - imported.
            The pipes were imported.
            Welding electrodes were even imported.

            And what now - suddenly we learn to do what we have never done before?
          3. SovAr238A 12 March 2020 22: 59 New
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            Quote: Gritsa
            Quote: SovAr238A
            Will we turn into North Korea?

            Maybe then it’s better to turn into the Soviet Union? Everything was there ... without import.


            Remember, with which hemorrhoids they brought only 4 turbines to Crimea ....
            This is a Christmas tree in principle - but indicative.
            short-term memory?
        3. poquello 12 March 2020 03: 06 New
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          How we raided from Turkey ...

          this is a clinic
        4. Dog
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          You did not answer. Which of the following have you called the truth?
          There is no need to breed verbose snot, you just need to answer for your words.

          Quote: SovAr238A
          How we raided from Turkey ...
          How raked from Pakistan ...

          You have raked only from ordinary miners of Donbass. Learn to face the truth.
        5. SovAr238A 12 March 2020 07: 37 New
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          Quote: Dog
          You did not answer. Which of the following have you called the truth?
          There is no need to breed verbose snot, you just need to answer for your words.

          Quote: SovAr238A
          How we raided from Turkey ...
          How raked from Pakistan ...

          You have raked only from ordinary miners of Donbass. Learn to face the truth.


          Do not be foolish!
          Why are all the notes, read the selling stuff, immediately recorded either in Israel or Khokhloma?

          I live here, I live in Samara.
          Childhood in Kuibyshev.
          School, vocational school, technical school. University
          9 gas processing plants, 18 aircraft factory.
          Then private companies.
          Now I work in the zone of Western Siberia / Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug, Sverdlovsk Region.

          What else do you want to say to me?


          When creating a local conflict, damage is caused at a distance of up to 2000 miles.
          Take a map and see how many reach cities we have there, which cities are there ...
          Remember those goals that were destroyed in Yugoslavia.

          So you will understand
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          Quote: SovAr238A
          I live here, I live in Samara

          And how do you like Samara? Why don't you go to your hotel?

          Quote: SovAr238A
          What else do you want to say to me?

          To tell you something - I am not interested; teach a fool - what to treat the dead. I ask you. And you talk a lot, and how to answer - so immediately hysterical.

          Quote: SovAr238A
          Take a map and see how many reach cities we have there; which cities are there

          You stated about, no more, no less, "zeroing the military infrastructure" of Russia. It turns out you're a talker who is not responsible for what you carry?
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          Quote: Dog

          You stated about, no more, no less, "zeroing the military infrastructure" of Russia. It turns out you're a talker who is not responsible for what you carry?


          Well, then you took the compass? Did you draw a line from the borders of NATO and the maritime borders of our territory?

          Or do you think that everyone lives in the region of Irkutsk, Krasnoyarsk and all the plants there?


          Draw 2000 kilometers from Narva or Tartu ...
          Draw 2000 kilometers from Trabzon ...
          Draw 2000 kilometers from the Norwegian border ..
          Draw 2000 kilometers from the Sea of ​​Japan or the North Sea.

          You can even try to outline from Kharkov ...
          For Ukrainians can not be discounted ...

          So look at all those largest cities with their infrastructure and enterprises, defense industry and military-industrial complex ...
        8. SovAr238A 12 March 2020 23: 01 New
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          It turns out you're a talker who is not responsible for what you carry?


          Why are you still? or are you a cowardly dog ​​without a compass?
  • poquello 11 March 2020 22: 53 New
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    We suddenly appear in the bays of 40 destroyers with hundreds of calibers each and go out to meet the Berks?
    Thousands of MiG-31s ​​with Daggers?

    is it for 20 destroyers you need 1000 daggers?
  • NEXUS 11 March 2020 23: 27 New
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    Quote: SovAr238A
    We suddenly appear in the bays of 40 destroyers with hundreds of calibers each and go out to meet the Berks?

    The question is, if the United States decides to hit us, then no destroyers are needed for nothing, since this will only mean one ANNOUNCEMENT of WAR. Farther, you wise guy will explain what and what will it lead to? What nafig thousand axes, dear?
    Quote: SovAr238A
    Thousands of MiG-31s ​​with Daggers?

    What did you have with math at school? What are the thousands of MIG-31K? For one Berg, one Dagger behind his eyes, to send this pelvis to the bottom. Why you are alone? Yes, because warhead plus kinetics scatter this vessel across the ocean. Antediluvian Exetzis what he did with the English destroyer? And it was 40 years ago.
    I'm not saying that in addition to the MIG-31, there is a Navy where there are submarines, frigates, etc. ... the navel will be untied to the mattresses and at least try to give such a volley.
    Quote: SovAr238A
    Or will you be talking about nuclear doctrine again?

    You really don’t understand or are you just fooling around? Do you think that in response to the blow by thousands of axes, we will send notes of protest to Sportloto? fool
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  • Andrei Fleris 11 March 2020 20: 11 New
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    Do you believe that the concentration of such forces will remain unnoticed))))
    1. Muxalet 11 March 2020 20: 26 New
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      The thing is that it (quantity) is dispersed throughout the globe. And the answer will fly from all sides ... just try to dodge ..). The United States in 2015 announced that they could give a simultaneous volley of 7000! only KR ...
      1. NEXUS 11 March 2020 20: 33 New
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        Quote: Muxalet
        The United States in 2015 announced that they could give a simultaneous volley of 7000! only KR ...

        Yeah ... remember the range of the axes and you say right there ...
        Quote: Muxalet
        And the answer will fly from all sides ... just try to dodge ..).

        And I am interested in how this will all happen, and let's say an ax flying from somewhere from the Atlantic, which it can hit on our territory?
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        The United States in 2015 announced that they could give a simultaneous volley of 7000! only KR ...


        Eh, spit on admins. "Givers" of volleys in Russia need to answer.
        1. SovAr238A 11 March 2020 23: 40 New
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          Quote: dauria
          The United States in 2015 announced that they could give a simultaneous volley of 7000! only KR ...


          Eh, spit on admins. "Givers" of volleys in Russia need to answer.


          27 million people ...
          The price of what you are now. 80 years later, I posted such a picture ...

          Now people are not the ones who won’t go to war.

          Anyone go to college, to high school.

          At the draft board there, see the percentage of recruits.

          Who will fight?
          They cannot live without Coca-Cola or power engineers ...

          Or will the very young bearded men with twigs on jeans a pipe and cutting and shaving in barber shops go into the army?
          Who has breakfast with fashionable falafel and drinks it with fresh smoothie?

          Will you take them to the army?
          Do you want to leave him without an iPhone? Without Insta, VKontaktika and tick-current?

          Dreamers ...
          They find soldiers here in modern Russia ...
          Yep ..

          The generation of soldiers is over.
          those who were born before 1975 and ended.
          Then already began the general excuses and white tickets at all costs.
          1. Grits 12 March 2020 02: 25 New
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            Who will fight?
            They cannot live without Coca-Cola or power engineers ...

            Or will the very young bearded men with twigs on jeans a pipe and cutting and shaving in barber shops go into the army?
            Who has breakfast with fashionable falafel and drinks it with fresh smoothie?

            Oddly enough, they will be. When mass mobilization begins, it will be these comrades who will shave off beards and patlas, give Kalash into their hands and put them in trenches. And they will fight like nice little yesterday’s hipsters, because life is expensive and the enemy tank will have to be knocked out. At least a bottle.
            And they will forget Coca-Cola, and they will rejoice at the lump of lard that comes across in a pot of pearl barley.
          2. aiden 12 March 2020 02: 31 New
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            Speaking of the army. At the weekend I went to my village and saw how the children of class 9 were engaged in the sports campus, many with machine guns (training) ran in ozk and gas masks. A contractor was engaged with them. He asked, they are getting ready for the army, in response they got to the lightning, and all those whom you see will go to the army. In general, the glamorous miscarriages of Instagrams will not go into the army, and in fact they do not need to be called up there. They are soobaki by nature and character. Either they will be killed, or they will kill others. And the army will go hard workers from poor families, and village boys. I do not agree that there is no one to take. I talked with the military commissar, so he says that now many guys want to be called upon, even if it’s limited or not fit. It is clear that there are those who need service in the army for future work, but the majority then remain in the army. Personally, I know one that went through the commission 4 times, because of some crap it was limited for a good fit. I went to the commissariat, wrote to the president. They didn’t call for it, I wanted to in the airborne forces, the guy himself is the closet; I also remember that I was preparing from school. Both the gym and sambo. But broke off
          3. poquello 12 March 2020 03: 09 New
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            Now people are not the ones who won’t go to war.

            I guessed that in Syria the army of clones
            1. SovAr238A 12 March 2020 07: 53 New
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              Quote: poquello
              Quote: SovAr238A
              Now people are not the ones who won’t go to war.

              I guessed that in Syria the army of clones


              Do not confuse conscripts and conscripts.
              Conscripts are now one-third of all.
              Every 20th is drafted into the army ...

              And in the case of BP - the remaining 19 chtoli themselves go to the draft board?

              Oh well..
              1. Dart 12 March 2020 13: 33 New
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                The pan ... as my classmate used to say, in the past a military commissar in the suburbs- "Vadim, you won’t believe it! Previously, they bribed to slope, now to join the army ..." like that. Pan ...
              2. SovAr238A 12 March 2020 23: 04 New
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                The pan ... as my classmate used to say, in the past a military commissar in the suburbs- "Vadim, you won’t believe it! Previously, they bribed to slope, now to join the army ..." like that. Pan ...


                Listen carefully, I’m writing articulate, so that even you would understand, the demon who called me a pan,
                You live with me, Sumgayit and Sukhum see in those years then ... When the necessary years.
                I’m 50 now, have seen enough ...
                Will you also show me something?
                Duchanschik ...
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                I don’t take my words back, I understand ... pokes me here ... I don’t yell at all the crossroads that I have seen Transnistria as part of the 14th Guards ... dweller of horseradish.
  • Grits 12 March 2020 02: 22 New
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    The thing is that it (quantity) is dispersed throughout the globe. And the answer will fly from all sides ... just try to dodge ..). The United States in 2015 announced that they could give a simultaneous volley of 7000! only KR ...

    Have you ever looked at a map of Russia? Do you know the range of action of the Kyrgyz Republic? Well, for example, the US has a base in Guam. Am I supposed to be afraid of Tomogavkov launched from there? Or from some base in Africa?
    A volley of 7000 can not be inflicted simultaneously from any one area and one specific area. Otherwise, it turns out spreading the oil on the sandwich with a very very thin layer. Moreover, only along the edges of the sandwich, that is, along the perimeter of the borders (to remind about the range?). Therefore, multiply your 7000 by the length of the borders, and marine. And also, given that the Axes will not start stupidly across the territory, namely, at important objects, then immediately multiply the remaining missiles by an order of magnitude. Because all important objects are covered by air defense and most of the axes will be guaranteed to be shot down. the remaining single copies will fall on the territory of some plants, airfields, military units. Having made a couple of large funnels. So what?
  • mvg
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    So think your head about seeds

    Well, as it were, they’re eating their head
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    Well, if all of NATO’s power was ready to attack Iraq in half a year in 1990, then it’s easy to prepare for a war with some Russia in a week, launch all teleportation installations, open all stargates, connect superheroes, and hundreds of thousands tactical and BRMD will immediately find themselves in combat positions in Europe and inflict a crushing volley, Marvel is already shooting a new series, spider-man is weaving nets for catching heavy bunkers, and Superman is buying tennis rackets from the best American composites, he will fight back warheads to us, victory propaganda over the mind is inevitable
  • Grits 12 March 2020 01: 46 New
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    So think about sunflower seeds ...

    Only one way out - embed first
  • NEXUS 11 March 2020 16: 13 New
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    As previously stated by American General John Rafferty, the rocket developed by Lockheed Martin Corporation is primarily designed to overcome Russian air defense in the European theater of war. In the Asia-Pacific region, this missile will be used to destroy Chinese warships.

    That is, in fact, the guys are arming themselves against us and China, and are sleeping and seeing how to unleash the Third World War.
    It seems to me alone that it is time for the orderlies to call the entire US leadership and their elites? They will invent something hyper-speed against us, and in revenge we will create something even more deadly. In the arms race, only those who sell all these systems to the army benefit. But there is one BUT. There is a high probability that there will be some kind of frostbitten eccentric (via M) who will start all this light presentation, for there are more idiots in the world, and weapons are more accessible and deadly. And why is humanity better than that monkey with a grenade?
    1. Jack O'Neill 11 March 2020 16: 30 New
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      That is, in fact, the guys are arming themselves against us and China, and are sleeping and seeing how to unleash the Third World War.

      I wonder how you came to that conclusion? ..

      Although you wrote correctly below:
      They will invent something hyper-speed against us, and in revenge we will create something even more deadly. In the arms race, only those who sell all these systems to the armies win


      But there is one BUT. There is a high probability that there will be some kind of frostbitten eccentric (via M) who will start all this light presentation, for there are more idiots in the world, and weapons are more accessible and deadly.


    2. tihonmarine 11 March 2020 18: 38 New
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      And why is humanity better than that monkey with a grenade?

      Nothing, just a person turns into a monkey with a grenade.
  • Arg107 11 March 2020 16: 16 New
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    It's time for you to learn geography.

    Actually, a story. It's time for you to stop confusing warm with soft.
  • voyaka uh 11 March 2020 16: 19 New
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    Is American Iskander on the way?
    1. Alexey Sommer 11 March 2020 16: 30 New
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      Is American Iskander on the way?

      On the way, he is on the way. But Russia does not stand still.
      1. Grits 12 March 2020 02: 32 New
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        On the way, he is on the way. But Russia does not stand still.

        True, so far nothing has been heard about something being prepared to replace Iskander or preparing a radical improvement. Apparently, this is enough for now.
        1. Alexey Sommer 12 March 2020 09: 30 New
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          Can you admit to the designer kulman with an inspection check?
          Or give the keys to the apartment?)
    2. bk316 11 March 2020 16: 36 New
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      American Iskander on the way

      In the Asia-Pacific region, this missile will be used to destroy Chinese warships.

      And didn’t you Alexander write that no one shoots at ballistic ships, and even if shoots from the inability to make cruise?
      1. voyaka uh 11 March 2020 16: 57 New
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        And they will not hit, and Iskander will not hit.
        For stationary purposes only.
        The article was written incorrectly.
        1. Grits 12 March 2020 02: 34 New
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          And they will not hit, and Iskander will not hit.
          For stationary purposes only.
          The article was written incorrectly.

          The Chinese seem to have invented something ballistic on ships there. If you do not drive, and what is riding in parades is really such. What are certain doubts.
          1. poquello 12 March 2020 20: 26 New
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            What are certain doubts.

            on the other hand, no one proved the opposite, and the Chinese were engaged in their denies
    3. poquello 11 March 2020 18: 07 New
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      Is American Iskander on the way?

      Well, as it were, a miserable likeness
      1. LiSiCyn 11 March 2020 19: 22 New
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        The caliber is small. Yes, and HIMARS, it is more MLRS. 6 pipes. Belarusian "Polonaise" approximately, range higher. There is an adjustable missile in stock. Most likely at its base and harbored.
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          Quote: LiSiCyn
          The caliber is small. Yes, and HIMARS, it is more MLRS. 6 pipes. Belarusian "Polonaise" approximately, range higher. There is an adjustable missile in stock. Most likely at its base and harbored.


          I don’t know who gives you the pluses - apparently also mediocrity.
          HIMARS, like MLRS, is a modular system.
          Shoots both NURS and URS (GMLRS (Guided Multiple Launch Rocket System)).
          And he knows how to shoot and OTR as well.
          both the previous ATACMS (1pc in the combat module) and the new PrSM (2pcs in the combat module).




          In general, I recommend to everyone interested to watch this video showing the sizes of guided and OT missiles for the American MLRS
  • shinobi 11 March 2020 16: 22 New
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    It’s like we already have air defense systems capable of intercepting targets flying at speeds up to 6 max. When creating new missiles, we have 6 max minimum minimum speed limit. Have the guys been late for an hour?
    1. SovAr238A 11 March 2020 16: 51 New
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      Quote: shinobi
      It’s like we already have air defense systems capable of intercepting targets flying at speeds up to 6 max. When creating new missiles, we have 6 max minimum minimum speed limit. Have the guys been late for an hour?


      A modern anti-aircraft missile with a comprehensive assessment of the cost of a full-fledged air defense system is many times more expensive than the cost of OTP with a comprehensive assessment.

      One, two, five, ten OTRs can be destroyed, but all the other launched OTRs will mow down empty launchers, a command post, a radar station and the rest of the infrastructure and all other military targets ...
      1. poquello 11 March 2020 18: 09 New
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        One, two, five, ten OTRs can be destroyed, but all the other launched OTRs will mow down empty launchers, a command post, a radar station and the rest of the infrastructure and all other military targets ...

        tired already, you might think they will admire this mowing, the first will be knocked down, the rest will be covered before launch
        1. SovAr238A 11 March 2020 21: 42 New
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          Quote: poquello
          Quote: SovAr238A
          One, two, five, ten OTRs can be destroyed, but all the other launched OTRs will mow down empty launchers, a command post, a radar station and the rest of the infrastructure and all other military targets ...

          tired already, you might think they will admire this mowing, the first will be knocked down, the rest will be covered before launch


          What?
          Again hats or checkers?
          Or like the Nexus, you will behave like an ostrich: "we have a doctrine!"

          What, will you close if everything that we have is ten times less than what they have?
          1. poquello 11 March 2020 22: 41 New
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            What, will you close if everything that we have is ten times less than what they have?

            ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
            Do you know what we have?
            1. SovAr238A 12 March 2020 00: 06 New
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              Quote: poquello
              Quote: SovAr238A
              What, will you close if everything that we have is ten times less than what they have?

              ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
              Do you know what we have?


              Yes I know.

              Or will you again be talking nonsense about the fact that "we have such devices" ?????

              Enough of the fables, about the "having no analogues in the world" ...

              When was the last time you entered the design bureau of any aerospace enterprise?
              Is there at least one graduate student in the last 20 years?

              What can these amoebas come up with?
              To blow away and give out dust from old projects as your own?
              1. poquello 12 March 2020 02: 59 New
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                Yes I know.

                )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) )))
                1. SovAr238A 12 March 2020 23: 09 New
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                  Quote: SovAr238A
                  Yes I know.

                  )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) )))


                  I was a member of the selection committee since 2005, and also was a member of the State Autonomous Commission from 2008 to 2015. In some Samara universities.
                  And you laugh ...

                  Laughter is the last thing to kill you ...
      2. Demon_is_ada 11 March 2020 18: 16 New
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        How do you imagine this in your fantasies, given your current post, I would like to clarify about 1200 missiles ... Is this a one-shot start from the PU, or sequential at intervals? The devil he is in the little things hi ... for a simultaneous start and movement, the group goal is a missile defense system with a missile defense system and a missile attack warning system; it is standardly included in the ammunition of long-range systems since the USSR, at least for c200. During a sequential start-up with an interval from the PU, molten metal will remain, it’s not for nothing that the notorious Iskander is kept in Kaliningrad not with chemical explosives. This has all been taken into account for a long time and changed your mind from the time of the GSVG, it was even sadder in your pessimistic view, everything was much closer and the flying time from the English submarines was even less. Or are you like that Turk with three problems from a joke, noble to come to a shootout with a knife?
        1. LiSiCyn 11 March 2020 19: 28 New
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          It’s not for nothing that the notorious Iskander is kept in Kaliningrad, not with chemical explosives.

          On the territory of KOR, nuclear weapons are not. Let's not come up. And so, the neighbors have been squabbling lately, and here you are still sketching. laughing
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            Stas hi The GSVG didn’t yes and 152 mm shells with a special launch, they generally appeared only about 5 years ago ... well, we have such a tradition, we have nothing at all no and we are kind, so that the neighbors wouldn’t piss at night ... well no, then no lol
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          Quote: Demon_is_ada
          How do you imagine this in your fantasies, given your current post, I would like to clarify about 1200 missiles ... Is this a one-shot start from the PU, or sequential at intervals?


          Just as there were massive volley shellings of the Iraqi group in Kuwait, when in four days the entire 100 thousandth group was destroyed ... 30 thousand dead and 70 thousand surrendered on their own ...
          1. Demon_is_ada 12 March 2020 09: 45 New
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            Are you seriously comparing now? belay You really do not see the difference ??? Ok i'll hint you
            What kind of air defense did the brave Iraqis have? The SPRN was involved with them, well, or at least intelligence worked? Well, of course, it would be nice to ask about SBN lol They have it waaabsche ???? And how many tactical missiles were deployed operatively from Iraq on a dangerous site in a compartment with cruise ships and aircraft for the secondary clearing of the clearing?
            You better take an example from Eun in North Korea, take it, hang out there, hang out a little, dust the eyes of the international community and let it go ... get out of harm's way and say - Eun nicho laughing
            1. SovAr238A 12 March 2020 23: 21 New
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              Yes. Seriously.
              In those years, even the marshals of the USSR. they said that America was breaking its teeth about Iraqi air defense.
              What type is she so echeloned, zakaya spreading, that the Americans have no chance, they will all fall.

              Do you know what reputation risks are?
              This is when you create really high-quality equipment, and the collective farmers offer you to buy it, and you understand that they will never be able to do quality things on your equipment, they either cannot or do not want to. and they will never have quality output.

              So, all prices of military contracts necessarily include high-quality training.
              For reputation risks - billions of lost money cost.
              And everyone is taught in full.
              And if our Arabs were taught in full, then the Arabs knew in full.
              And if the Arabs failed, it means our school failed.
              Our tactics failed.
              Our weapon failed.

              If Syria has failed, then Iraq will not buy, Algeria will not buy, Egypt will not buy.
              Whatever tales you tell, they just won’t buy it.


              Turn on the brain finally ...
              1. Demon_is_ada 13 March 2020 00: 33 New
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                You confuse warm with soft, smoothly trying to combine completely incompatible things laughing You should hire a tutor to teach you the basics of logical thinking.
                1. Regarding the USSR and Iraqi air defense. The USSR was not at all bothered by the reputational losses for business from the word at all, since the USSR usually gave (for free, without money, or for a nominal fee, du andestend mi? Know business absolute) and was behind the “iron curtain”
                a) we kind of talked about the war of Iraq against Kuwait ... and you mean the Americans, are they there sideways ???
                Quote: SovAr238A
                Just as there were massive volley fires against a group of Iraqis in Kuwait

                and you smoothly and unobtrusively switch to the aggression of the mattress in Iraq wassat Is it an attempt at prestidigitation or sclerosis? I will answer here too, there is an old saying - donkey loaded with gold will take any fortress, and any air defense
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                Quote: SovAr238A
                If Syria has failed, then Iraq will not buy, Algeria will not buy, Egypt will not buy.
                Whatever tales you tell, they just won’t buy it.
                Yeah ... it’s not yet threatening you that something will fly, then yes, show-offs, bragging, neglect ... that's how 152mm in five grunts, so immediately other thoughts will climb into your head when you stop walking for yourself in about two weeks lol
                You tell Erdogan there about the reputational losses and they won’t buy me again, but they don’t buy me for another reason, he’s a little expensive, you can even say very expensive for the countries you have listed, even the same Erdogan bought in half on credit and is unlikely to be fly, he covered his palace laughing
      3. shinobi 13 March 2020 05: 35 New
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        A normal military conflict with the United States is not possible due to the presence of nuclear weapons on both sides. Any launch of a missile capable of carrying nuclear weapons, and the OTRK can do so, will be regarded as a nuclear attack with all those who wipe out (see the strategic military doctrine of the Russian Federation, USA) for the attacker. So do not carry nonsense.
    2. shahor 11 March 2020 16: 52 New
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      Quote: shinobi
      Have the guys been late for an hour?

      I think no. In a test report, Americans say over 5 M. And how much over? 7? 9?
    3. voyaka uh 11 March 2020 17: 03 New
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      Not intercepted after, but towards.
      "Frontal collision."
      If the meeting point is calculated, then the speed of the target is not so important.
      The main thing is to quickly calculate and quickly shoot. And this is difficult. Little time for reaction. Therefore, such “iskanders” are difficult targets for missile defense.
      1. poquello 11 March 2020 18: 11 New
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        Quote: voyaka uh
        Not intercepted after, but towards.
        "Frontal collision."
        If the meeting point is calculated, then the speed of the target is not so important.
        The main thing is to quickly calculate and quickly shoot. And this is difficult. Little time for reaction. Therefore, such “iskanders” are difficult targets for missile defense.

        ours do not fly in a straight line
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          poquello
          "ours do not fly in a straight line"
          :))) Five points!
          Our always fly through ..... Alps. :)))) Habit, pound, pound ... :)))
          1. poquello 12 March 2020 20: 15 New
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            Quote: smile
            poquello
            "ours do not fly in a straight line"
            :))) Five points!
            Our always fly through ..... Alps. :)))) Habit, pound, pound ... :)))

            ) tradition, "one broke, the second lost"
    4. Grigory_45 11 March 2020 18: 08 New
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      Quote: shinobi
      As if, we are already armed with air defense systems capable of intercepting targets flying at speeds up to 6 max

      and yet, such goals are a tough nut for any air defense / missile defense system

      Quote: shinobi
      When creating new missiles, we have 6 max minimum lower speed limit.

      what missiles are you talking about? All kinds of rockets are created. Both supersonic (X-32, 3,5-4M) and subsonic (the same X-101)
      By the way, what kind of rocket do we have at a speed of 6M? (do not talk about Zircon only)
      1. Petruha1 12 March 2020 02: 46 New
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        Quote: Gregory_45
        By the way, what kind of rocket do we have at a speed of 6M? (do not talk about Zircon only)

        Grigory_45! Anti-aircraft missiles: 48N6E3, 48N6DM, 40N6 (E) and others ... S-400 air defense systemshave a speed above 6M.
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          Quote: Petruha1
          Anti-aircraft missiles: 48N6E3, 48N6DM, 40N6 (E) and others ... S-400 air defense systems, have a speed above 6M

          I know this very well. But was Mr. Sinobi talking about anti-aircraft missiles?
          Quote: shinobi
          When creating new missiles, we have 6 max minimum lower speed limit.Have the guys been late for an hour?

          can be interpreted in two ways. Before that, it was about surface-to-surface missiles. If about missiles - then there are those in the United States. And, by the way, ICBMs fly at speeds. much larger than 6M. So your message is unclear
          1. Petruha1 12 March 2020 11: 15 New
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            Quote: Gregory_45
            By the way, what kind of rocket do we have at a speed of 6M? (do not talk about Zircon only)

            According to the Russian language, each paragraph should have a small plan according to which it is written. This plan should "sit", in an abstract form, in every writer’s head. And used as an axiom at the subconscious level. In addition to the plan, the paragraph should be your own topic (thought)which is revealed in it.

            Write more correctly and correctly - without errors.
            1. Grigory_45 12 March 2020 12: 11 New
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              Quote: Petruha1
              Write better and more correctly - no mistakes

              I hope that from this moment you will jealously monitor all visitors to the site, and point them to errors))
  • Ratmir_Ryazan 11 March 2020 16: 35 New
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    An analogue of our Iskander.
  • Air force 11 March 2020 16: 45 New
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    This general sets out as if there is already a war with Russia and China and he explains the rocket will be used to destroy Chinese ships and Russian air defense. It’s interesting how these general’s plans will be commented on by all those Russian liberal citizens who believe that the United States wants Russia’s good and that this is Russia’s aggressive plans against good all over the world.
    1. Grigory_45 11 March 2020 17: 47 New
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      Quote: Air Force
      This general sets out as if war is already underway with Russia and China, and he explains the rocket will be used to destroy Chinese ships and Russian air defense

      But how do we announce the equipment? In the same way, it will overcome the American missile defense, drown all American aircraft carriers, smash it to shreds of air defense, drive all NATO stealth, etc. Do not find the same? So why are you outraged ???
      1. Air force 12 March 2020 07: 21 New
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        At the official level, we speak hypothetically, a potential or probable opponent. About drown American aircraft carriers, etc. ordinary people write in the comments, but if, for example, General I. Konashenkov officially declared that Russia would place submarines in Syrian Tartus to sink American aircraft carriers, and on the basis of Khmeimi’s S400 it was necessary to bring down American F16 and F35 so that the howl would rise all over the world and the UN would start to “cook up” the resolution .
  • Grigory_45 11 March 2020 17: 40 New
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    A new hypersonic missile is being developed as a replacement for the obsolete ammunition of the operational tactical complexes ATACMS

    yes, cartoons are contagious))
    now American short-range ballistic missiles are now called hypersonic ...
    Their missile program Precision Strike Missile (PrSM) - in fact, an analogue of the Russian Iskander.
    Oddly enough, but ATACMS until recently, all normal people called it an operational-tactical missile system with a short-range ballistic missile. And coming to replace him with PrSM is the same.

    About times, about morals ... Soon, our shells will be called hypersonic) But what, BOPS leaves the barrel of a modern tank gun at a speed of more than 5M
  • Mentat 11 March 2020 17: 48 New
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    Quote: voyaka uh
    Is American Iskander on the way?

    It is rather a modernized Point-U.
    The Iskander is capable of maneuvering and is equipped with missile defense and electronic warfare units. This is a much more advanced product.
    1. voyaka uh 11 March 2020 18: 51 New
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      At high speeds - large inertia forces. What you call maneuvering is a slight wiggle of 1-2 degrees. A little more swing - the forces of inertia will carry away from the trajectory to the goal forever.
      And these swaying in the initial and terminal section. And interceptions - on average, ballistic.
      There are no "blocks to overcome missile defense" in nature.
      Iskander is difficult to intercept simply because the reaction time is very short. And it is more precisely the Points.
  • Operator 11 March 2020 17: 58 New
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    Quote: SovAr238A
    will give them the opportunity to make a salvo of 1200 OTR PrSM

    Let them conduct the tests first, put them into service and see the serial production of the supersonic OTR PrSM, after which we will calculate the number of manufactured S-350 anti-aircraft missiles that have already been put into service bully

    1200 PrSM = 25 S-350 batteries, however.
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      Quote: Operator
      Quote: SovAr238A
      will give them the opportunity to make a salvo of 1200 OTR PrSM

      Let them conduct the tests first, put them into service and see the serial production of the supersonic OTR PrSM, after which we will calculate the number of manufactured S-350 anti-aircraft missiles that have already been put into service bully

      You all laugh, and the second launch has already made ...
      And now they are no longer limited to a range of 500 km, like us.
      You can laugh again, but they will equip the second modification with a universal multi-mode seeker for firing at moving targets, including and ships.
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        The keyword is "will be" laughing
  • guerrilla 11 March 2020 18: 21 New
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    Quote: Gregory_45
    knocks down all stealth NATO, etc. Do not find the same? So why are you outraged ???

    The difference is that NATO is near Pskov ....
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      Quote: Guerilla
      The difference is that NATO is near Pskov ....

      On the contrary - this is Pskov near NATO
  • Prisoner 11 March 2020 19: 07 New
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    "... The missile was tested for accuracy, reliability of on-board systems, as well as evaluation power missile warhead ... " laughing I am catching on with these translators. "The power of the warhead ..." sounds somehow more modest and in Russian.
    1. Andrey Kupriyanov 11 March 2020 21: 07 New
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      The power of ammunition - the ability of shells, warheads of missiles, air bombs, mines and other ammunition in nuclear and conventional equipment to cause damage to a target level of an object of destruction (target); characterizes their effect on the target.

      https://encyclopedia.mil.ru/encyclopedia/dictionary/[email protected]
      1. Orkraider 11 March 2020 22: 42 New
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        Quote: Andrey Kupriyanov
        The power of ammunition - the ability of shells, warheads of missiles, air bombs, mines and other ammunition in nuclear and conventional equipment to cause damage to a target level of an object of destruction (target); characterizes their effect on the target.


        hi
        I’ll supplement your absolutely correct answer a little, if you don’t mind.

        Actions at the target are different for different types of ammunition:
        1. The power of high-explosive shells is determined by the area of ​​the destruction zone;
        2. Armor-piercing - the thickness of penetrated armor at a given angle of encounter;
        3. Fragmentation - the area of ​​the reduced area of ​​fragmentation damage, determined by the number, mass and speed of expansion of the fragments;
        4. All types of the above - the probability of hitting the target.

        That is, if, with the same warhead power, the accuracy of the hit increased due to the refinement of the guidance system and, accordingly, the probability of hitting the target increased - the power of the ammunition upgraded is higher. Although the power is the same
  • sagitch 11 March 2020 19: 16 New
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    Not long with "hypersound" we were ahead of the rest.
  • 123456789 11 March 2020 19: 58 New
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    Quote: tihonmarine
    Yes, he’s a normal man

    Only Gaddafi's laurels do not give rest. You have to pay for irremovability
  • Mentat 11 March 2020 21: 19 New
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    Quote: voyaka uh
    At high speeds - large inertia forces. What you call maneuvering is a slight wiggle of 1-2 degrees. A little more swing - the forces of inertia will carry away from the trajectory to the goal forever.
    And these swaying in the initial and terminal section. And interceptions - on average, ballistic.
    There are no "blocks to overcome missile defense" in nature.
    Iskander is difficult to intercept simply because the reaction time is very short. And it is more precisely the Points.

    You are wrong on all points:
    1. The trajectory of the rocket is controllable at any given time; it does not have a purely ballistic segment. Therefore, it is impossible to calculate the place of its targeting or to calculate the trajectory for kinetic interception.
    2. As a means to overcome missile defense, it carries a set of false goals.
    In addition, there is a firing block of electronic warfare, which suppresses the entire affected area.

    Moreover, this is a full-fledged "stealth" in the Western sense: a special coating is applied, the shape of the rocket was calculated to minimize the reflected signal, all service hatches are shut after launch.

    It can be used for moving targets.

    Further, the missile can be equipped with a cassette warhead, each element of which has the ability to individually seek. Therefore, it is possible to defeat areal / multiple targets. There is currently no publicly available data on the use of such a warhead.

    Analogues in the world of this complex do not exist and will not exist for a long time.
    1. SovAr238A 12 March 2020 00: 16 New
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      Quote: Mentat
      Quote: voyaka uh
      At high speeds - large inertia forces. What you call maneuvering is a slight wiggle of 1-2 degrees. A little more swing - the forces of inertia will carry away from the trajectory to the goal forever.
      And these swaying in the initial and terminal section. And interceptions - on average, ballistic.
      There are no "blocks to overcome missile defense" in nature.
      Iskander is difficult to intercept simply because the reaction time is very short. And it is more precisely the Points.

      You are wrong on all points:
      1. The trajectory of the rocket is controllable at any given time; it does not have a purely ballistic segment. Therefore, it is impossible to calculate the place of its targeting or to calculate the trajectory for kinetic interception.
      2. As a means to overcome missile defense, it carries a set of false goals.
      In addition, there is a firing block of electronic warfare, which suppresses the entire affected area.

      Moreover, this is a full-fledged "stealth" in the Western sense: a special coating is applied, the shape of the rocket was calculated to minimize the reflected signal, all service hatches are shut after launch.

      It can be used for moving targets.

      Further, the missile can be equipped with a cassette warhead, each element of which has the ability to individually seek. Therefore, it is possible to defeat areal / multiple targets. There is currently no publicly available data on the use of such a warhead.

      Analogues in the world of this complex do not exist and will not exist for a long time.



      , but the designer knows about this?
      About. what did you write here?
      Are you seriously?
      About stealth coverage in 5-7-9 max ???
      About the fired EW unit and false targets during a flight in the atmosphere at 5-7-9 max?
      About the "slamming service hatches" - generally a pearl ... Tell me the rocket after the FAU-1, did the cogor have open hatches in flight?
      About moving goals - no one else in OTR has said such a thing in the world - you are the first ...

      About cluster warheads with individually guided warheads - so they are already 50 years old, have you only recently learned about them, is it a discovery for you?

      It’s just some sort of fount of ridiculous, so ridiculous words and letters, such a gap that I even want to ask, “Do you smoke and give the contact of this dealer who sells you such nonsense!” ....
  • JonnyT 11 March 2020 21: 43 New
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    So that’s bad news. Himars itself is an extremely dangerous thing, and then there is a rocket with high speed and low altitude. Of course, the question of whether they have reached Mach 5 or not may lie, but still there is not much pleasant, especially since they openly say that they will use it against us.
  • Sarkazm 12 March 2020 00: 46 New
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    [quote = Mentat] [quote = voyaka uh] Analogs in the world of this complex do not exist and will not exist for a long time. [/ Quote] The only question is, do they, analogs, are needed by the probable opponent?
    A likely adversary produces missiles and has the number of launchers and launchers, and most importantly, the stock of cruise missiles in quantities just physically exceeding the capabilities of our most advanced air defense / missile defense systems.

    Many people don’t get the simple thing, the probable opponent didn’t attack for only one reason - WHERE STILL there is a high probability of a retaliatory strike and inflicting unacceptable damage. As soon as he has the opportunity to reduce both the likelihood of a retaliatory strike, and the size of the possible damage, they will strike at us ONE HOUR SAME. Do not go to a fortuneteller and it’s stupid to discuss it.

    The appearance of such missiles and their improvement, taking into account how close the enemy is to our borders, the capital and the main industrial areas, the ICBM-based areas, this and similar missiles is another element that reduces our ability to retaliate and threaten unacceptable damage, if not at all, then much.
    Step by step, we and the Chinese are deprived of the possibility of a retaliatory strike by us, our time for reaction, the execution of all procedures, and retaliatory strikes are simply reduced. Plus, there is a high probability that our geniuses will unleash a low-intensity conflict using tactical nuclear weapons as much as possible, we often began to provoke and aggravate, one problem is that we will lose in such a conflict.

    Well, about nuclear weapons. THERE are children and grandchildren, and the capitals of HERE, not the fact that a blow will be dealt.
    And I remind you. In the Second World War, both we and the Germans had chemical weapons, but none of the parties used them.
    1. Petruha1 12 March 2020 03: 04 New
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      Quote: Sarkazm
      Many people don’t get the simple thing, the probable opponent didn’t attack for only one reason - WHERE STILL there is a high probability of a retaliatory strike and inflicting unacceptable damage. As soon as he has the opportunity to reduce both the likelihood of a retaliatory strike, and the size of the possible damage, they will strike at us ONE HOUR SAME. Do not go to a fortuneteller and it’s stupid to discuss it.

      Sarkazm, your belly button with the US will not untie? According to your children's expressions - obviously it will untie! Will everyone watch the US arm themselves and do nothing?
      Quote: Sarkazm
      Step by step us and the Chinese Americans make it impossible for a retaliatory strike, we simply simply reduce the time for reaction, performing all procedures and retaliating. Plus there is a high probability of untying our geniuses of low-intensity conflict using tactical nuclear weapons maximum, we often began to go on provocation and exacerbation, one problem is that in such a conflict we will lose.

      Yes, the intelligence of a student from Ukraine! Learn the lessons! And keep sprinkling your ashes on your head further under the external control of the USA. We will do without your children's advice!
  • Mentat 12 March 2020 10: 20 New
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    Quote: SovAr238A
    Quote: Mentat
    Quote: voyaka uh
    At high speeds - large inertia forces. What you call maneuvering is a slight wiggle of 1-2 degrees. A little more swing - the forces of inertia will carry away from the trajectory to the goal forever.
    And these swaying in the initial and terminal section. And interceptions - on average, ballistic.
    There are no "blocks to overcome missile defense" in nature.
    Iskander is difficult to intercept simply because the reaction time is very short. And it is more precisely the Points.

    You are wrong on all points:
    1. The trajectory of the rocket is controllable at any given time; it does not have a purely ballistic segment. Therefore, it is impossible to calculate the place of its targeting or to calculate the trajectory for kinetic interception.
    2. As a means to overcome missile defense, it carries a set of false goals.
    In addition, there is a firing block of electronic warfare, which suppresses the entire affected area.

    Moreover, this is a full-fledged "stealth" in the Western sense: a special coating is applied, the shape of the rocket was calculated to minimize the reflected signal, all service hatches are shut after launch.

    It can be used for moving targets.

    Further, the missile can be equipped with a cassette warhead, each element of which has the ability to individually seek. Therefore, it is possible to defeat areal / multiple targets. There is currently no publicly available data on the use of such a warhead.

    Analogues in the world of this complex do not exist and will not exist for a long time.



    , but the designer knows about this?
    About. what did you write here?
    Are you seriously?
    About stealth coverage in 5-7-9 max ???
    About the fired EW unit and false targets during a flight in the atmosphere at 5-7-9 max?
    About the "slamming service hatches" - generally a pearl ... Tell me the rocket after the FAU-1, did the cogor have open hatches in flight?
    About moving goals - no one else in OTR has said such a thing in the world - you are the first ...

    About cluster warheads with individually guided warheads - so they are already 50 years old, have you only recently learned about them, is it a discovery for you?

    It’s just some sort of fount of ridiculous, so ridiculous words and letters, such a gap that I even want to ask, “Do you smoke and give the contact of this dealer who sells you such nonsense!” ....

    Everything that I cited in the message is based on messages published in the central media, both general and specialized.

    What are your speculations and grunts based on? On the pure essence of discontent and envy that Russia is capable of designing and manufacturing missile systems that are decades ahead of the world? Very similar to that.
  • iouris 12 March 2020 16: 27 New
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    Accuracy is not important - speed is important.
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    Quote: Bulgarian
    Iskanr flies along a quasi-ballistic trajectory, i.e. maneuvers.

    A quasi-ballistic trajectory does not mean that the product maneuvers on it. It only means that the trajectory is not classical ballistic, but “crushed”. that is, the apogee for such a trajectory, for example, is not 100 km, but only 50. Because of this, the range decreases about three times, the "payload" decreases about the same, and the accuracy parameters become worse

    Quote: businessv
    And who is arguing? This one is also not ballistic, just fast tactical.

    A "slow tactical" can not be ballistic?

    Quote: Gregory_45
    now everyone is called this fashionable word ... Soon the prefix "hypersonic" will be glued to ICBMs, spacecraft, and all will be happy ..

    Whether it will still be ... soon the shells of tank guns will begin to be called hypersonic weapons. especially if they have a speed of 5M or higher

    Quote: businessv
    How can a ballistic missile be used in MLRS?

    Yes, in principle, any missile (missile) MLRS belonging to the category of "weapons of the battlefield" can be considered a ballistic missile (shell)

    Quote: Gritsa
    The Chinese seem to have invented something ballistic on ships there. If you do not drive, and what is riding in parades is really such. What are certain doubts.

    Then they themselves disavowed their claims that these systems were capable of hitting ships in motion. Something did not grow together with their radars. Now they say that these BPCR can be used exclusively on ships in bases

    Quote: poquello
    Quote: voyaka uh
    Is American Iskander on the way?

    Well, as it were, a miserable likeness

    Of course. It is American, which means it cannot be good a priori. Only a miserable likeness laughing

    Quote: poquello
    Quote: voyaka uh
    Not intercepted after, but towards.
    "Frontal collision."
    If the meeting point is calculated, then the speed of the target is not so important.
    The main thing is to quickly calculate and quickly shoot. And this is difficult. Little time for reaction. Therefore, such “iskanders” are difficult targets for missile defense.

    ours do not fly in a straight line

    Are they flying along a curve? It’s nothing that the fuel in the Iskander’s engine burns out in about 75 seconds. And the whole subsequent flight is pure “ballistics” or, in extreme cases, a flight along a “quasi-ballistic” trajectory. And the gas rudders no longer work because there is no fuel. At least, one can imagine how a "blank" weighing a ton is "controlled." Aerodynamic surfaces allow you to slightly adjust the trajectory of the fall in the final section, but no more

    Quote: Mentat
    Quote: voyaka uh
    Is American Iskander on the way?

    It is rather a modernized Point-U.
    The Iskander is capable of maneuvering and is equipped with missile defense and electronic warfare units. This is a much more advanced product.

    In range it is like an Iskander. Iskander can maneuver exclusively in a very narrow range. Missile defense overcoming block - is that a false goal? The only thing that is possible is the presence of an electronic warfare system. In addition, there is no evidence of what this test American missile is equipped with. Does she have EW and KSP missile defense or not

    Quote: Mentat
    You are wrong on all points:

    You really WRONG, on almost all counts (although the phrase “NOT RIGHT” you wrote to Alexei (Vojaka Uh). And he was right on many points.

    Quote: Mentat
    1. The trajectory of the rocket is controllable at any given time; it does not have a purely ballistic segment. Therefore, it is impossible to calculate the place of its targeting or to calculate the trajectory for kinetic interception.

    The trajectory can be controlled only during engine operation, when aerodynamic planes and gas rudders work on the product. That is, at the OUT. Later, this is only a parody of handling, since the effect of these miniature aerodynamic surfaces is extremely negligible. And for the entire range, with the exception of the first 75 seconds, it flies precisely along a ballistic trajectory (as an option along a quasi-ballistic trajectory, with a reduced apogee). The trajectory of such a goal is calculated on a one-two basis. Slight "evolutions" of the "Iskander" can be on the final part of the trajectory, when it can turn on the target, using GOS commands on aerodynamic surfaces.

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    2. As a means to overcome missile defense, it carries a set of false goals.
    In addition, there is a firing block of electronic warfare, which suppresses the entire affected area.

    And where does he have this set of false targets and the firing block of electronic warfare when a rocket with INTEGRABLE HEAD. The discharge on the descending section of the path of the head fairing will fatally worsen the aerodynamic characteristics of the Iskander. And without resetting the fairing, there can be no talk of any separation of false targets and the resetting EW unit. By the way, but what, does this EW block not touch its own radar homing ???

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    Moreover, this is a full-fledged "stealth" in the Western sense: a special coating is applied, the shape of the rocket was calculated to minimize the reflected signal, all service hatches are shut after launch.

    This is the only thing that is true. Minimization of the reflected signal, removed cable channels, stealth coating.

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    It can be used for moving targets.

    It cannot because of the foregoing.

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    Further, the missile can be equipped with a cassette warhead, each element of which has the ability to individually seek. Therefore, it is possible to defeat areal / multiple targets. There is currently no publicly available data on the use of such a warhead.

    You are right here. There are two types of warhead warheads in which self-aiming warheads are used, designed to destroy armored objects

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    Analogues in the world of this complex do not exist and will not exist for a long time.

    There is such an expression, "Never say never." Developments in Russia and the United States have always been (and during the Union) what is called "nostril in the nostril." And to hope that the enemy will not have anything like this for a long time, at least silly. By the way, we know almost nothing about the American missile being tested, incl. about the nomenclature of its head parts
    1. poquello 12 March 2020 21: 16 New
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      that these BPCR can be used exclusively for ships in bases

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      Is American Iskander on the way?

      Well, as it were, a miserable likeness

      Of course. It is American, which means it cannot be good a priori. Only a miserable likeness

      oh well, Americans have aircraft carriers - GOOD targets for pcr
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      Are they flying along a curve? Nothing that the fuel in the Iskander’s engine burns out in about 75 seconds. And all further flight - pure "ballistics"

      ) nothing, if I stupidly I will not believe)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
    2. Lexan 29 March 2020 13: 43 New
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      Quote: Old26 (Vladimir)
      By the way, but what, does this EW block not touch its own radar homing ???

      Dear Old26! Do not write about electronic warfare, radar and radio systems! Are you not a specialist in these areas of technology? The reflected signal has a range equation in the root of the fourth degree, and the emitted direct EW signal has a range equation in the square root. And besides, you do not take into account the directional properties of the radar antenna and noise reduction systems and so on ...
  • Sarkazm 13 March 2020 02: 34 New
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    Many people don’t get the simple thing, the probable opponent didn’t attack for only one reason - WHERE STILL there is a high probability of a retaliatory strike and inflicting unacceptable damage. As soon as he has the opportunity to reduce both the likelihood of a retaliatory strike, and the size of the possible damage, they will strike at us ONE HOUR SAME. Do not go to a fortuneteller and it’s stupid to discuss it.

    Sarkazm, your belly button with the US will not untie? According to your children's expressions - obviously it will untie! Will everyone watch the US arm themselves and do nothing?
    Um, I have with the States, in the sense against the States, the navel is clearly untied ... laughing
    And we are simply not able to do something real. There is no need to console ourselves with illusions - we are corpse-eaters, eat up the remains, touched the USSR. Patriotism is not gorlopanstvo, but sober assessment as well. The maximum possible is the remnants of Soviet technology and promising Soviet developments for that time. Regarding the latter, we are fortunate that with the end of the Cold War, Europe generally counted the bolt on the defense budget, well, the States still maintained a high level of spending, but more by inertia. It must be understood that if, after the end of the Cold War and the confrontation with the USSR, the States and Europe had entered into a confrontation with some hypothetical third military-political bloc and the arms race continued even in another theater, we would now be hopelessly far from them from all, would be at least a generation behind.
    All that we are puffing and with great efforts, having lost personnel, somewhere having lost school, having ruined science, and even with "dear friends" and "effective managers" with philological education at the head of high-tech industries, is still doing something creates the illusion that we can create and have parity with the States and Europe in some long-term perspective. But this is only an illusion, touched the USSR, even taking into account the fact that we can generally realize from this reserve, since many industries and technologies are lost for us forever, this is literally another decade, and then FAILED. If there is no continuity, consistent development is obvious.

    It is impossible to compete with the United States without investing in science, in education, and without reinforcing it all with a strong economy. Our current system and raw material model of the economy is nothing in front of today's scientific and industrial potential of Europe and the USA. To change this, it is not necessary to give indulgent assessments with the appearance of a "dedicated", but rather efforts must be made to change the country, create the prerequisites and conditions for the development of education and science, the development of industry, the development of the economy as a whole. For example, can you tell me just as majestically and condescendingly about the successes in our education, crucified by the still “dear friend” Fursenko? And everything begins there, back at the school desk, the foundation is laid there, and education, and elementary culture, and upbringing. Now look around, look at this site - half simply cannot write without errors and behave as befits a normal person, not an orc hz. from which cave stuck out his nose. And this is all interconnected, there is no one without the other, this is a system and it cannot develop if some part of it is flawed and wretched.

    How can you compete with the States and Europe, a country in which 60% of the population is poor and more than 20 million of them. the poor in general? ... There is no strong economy, no strong military potential, no high level of education and science, no parity and development in the defense sector. There is nothing to deceive ourselves and condescendingly, but poorly and naively to be clever while distributing ratings like "childish" ratings. We have another 10 years with a maximum in technology, but not the fact that we will be able to bear the costs associated with their implementation and production of weapons. We stupidly look at the amount of foreign exchange reserves, external debt and reserve fund, and draw conclusions. All objective statistics, in terms of the number of robotic manufactures, the fleet of modern machine tools, etc., etc. is in the public domain - read, study, draw conclusions, are not capable, read competent people worthy of trust, and only then, sorry, open your mouth or rush to scribble comments.
    1. Isim soyad 13 March 2020 11: 30 New
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      Sarkazm, basically you seldom make a mistake. True, not on the topic, but complement your proposal.
      We stupidly look at the amount of foreign exchange reserves, external debt and reserve fund, and draw conclusions.


      By the way, the adventurism of the Russian leadership, which got involved in the oil war, looks extremely inadequate if we take the gross indicators comparing the initial positions before the war.
      Russia has gold reserves of $ 570 billion, SWFs of $ 150 billion (? Ruble or $?), External debt of $ 480 billion
      . Saudi Arabia alone has $ 500 billion worth of gold reserves, $ 500 billion of government reserves, $ 30 billion of external debt.

      Given the fact that gold reserves are primarily the provision of external debt, Russian gold reserves can be safely deleted from the list, which cannot be said about the Saudi ones.

      http://krizis-kopilka.ru/archives/73845?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fpulse.mail.ru&utm_source=pulse_mail_ru
  • Sarkazm 13 March 2020 12: 25 New
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    Sarkazm, basically you seldom make a mistake. True, not on the topic, but complement your proposal.
    We stupidly look at the amount of foreign exchange reserves, external debt and reserve fund, and draw conclusions.


    By the way, the adventurism of the Russian leadership, which got involved in the oil war, looks extremely inadequate if we take the gross indicators comparing the initial positions before the war.
    Russia has gold reserves of $ 570 billion, SWFs of $ 150 billion (? Ruble or $?), External debt of $ 480 billion
    . Saudi Arabia alone has $ 500 billion worth of gold reserves, $ 500 billion of government reserves, $ 30 billion of external debt.

    Given the fact that gold reserves are primarily the provision of external debt, Russian gold reserves can be safely deleted from the list, which cannot be said about the Saudi ones.

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    Speaking frankly, I don't like Mr. (read as you like) Nesmeyan, known as El-Murid, it’s clear that someone is conducting an open drain through him, but the last comments about how our geniuses got along with gas transit through Ukraine, sorry won "according to our Agitprop, about the current situation with the oil war - I agree with him in many ways, he must also bear reliable information among the desa, and it is easier to read from him than to retell.
    You are from Azerbaijan, if I’m not mistaken, how did you receive such a “gift” from our geniuses? After all, your budget also depends on oil exports and its prices on world markets.
    It is interesting how Kazakhs are also “grateful” to us ...

    Here is a simple example, you already read quarantine because of the coronavirus, the borders with Iran are closed, there are cases of deaths (if I don’t confuse anything), classes at schools are stopped, etc., everywhere crowded places are being processed, buses, taxis etc. Truth? That is, your authorities even care about their people, your system at least somehow works.
    But here, as always, “everything is fine marquise” here as usual ... I won’t be surprised if our gentlemen drag the people to a referendum in the crowd of polling stations, probably in order to fight the active electorate and to discourage others from wanting to go to the polls if you take seriously the people, the population as a herd, they say, well, 10 thousand electorates will die, yes ha .. but the question is, after all, an important question is being solved, the question is of a universal scale - preserving under a certain ass a heated chair, and the accounts of his friend-accomplices.
    This example shows their level in every sense, even from the side of elementary morality, humanity. Errors are being blamed for mistakes and along the way there is about to leave the roof. The reason is simple - the SYSTEM is broken. Heydar Aliyev built it for you and it seems like his son didn’t break it, everything is broken here, and they break and force the system every time for the sake of the immediate and personal.

    PS It’s good for you, Gedar Aliyev - Ilham Aliyev - Heydar Aliyev, well, if the latter loves the pope, again Ilham Aliyev, etc. There are no time limits, as far as I know, your authorities at least do not bother and do not lie to you, and you have no illusions. I’m serious, and this is not an attempt, for example, to hurt you, false illusions are harmful, not everyone is able to pragmatically assess the situation, and everything is clear like God's day.
    1. Isim soyad 14 March 2020 12: 54 New
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      Mr. (read as you like) Nesmeyan

      I rarely read it, the title of the article attracted. But if you offered a choice (and not considering how you wrote to me before: “you see everything”Jahn""), I will choose yours, for sure you are not mistaken.

      You are from Azerbaijan

      Yes

      After all, your budget also depends on oil exports and its prices on world markets.
      I wonder how grateful we are.

      Yes, it does. But after the devaluation of the end of 2014 and the beginning of 2015, we have set $ 30 per barrel in the state budget, and up from a barrel to G. Aliyev’s fund. And a lot of different projects (state, econom., And for the population) were financed by this particular fund. If you drop below $ 30 per barrel, then we will have a serious leap, if not, then in this case, even if a little, it will still affect. And + to that, because in Russia there are quite a few of our earnings, and here they will affect us.
      About gratitude, and don’t speak (for oil), you don’t imagine "how grateful we are for such a situation" laughing laughing, hi GDP.
      2014/15, the state paid off the debt, (the difference from the old rate for $) to foreign currency debtors to the bank. And those who didn’t owe, and closed the loans themselves, the State returned the difference to them, which we (the people) overpaid in BANKS. Maybe that's why we don’t have such excitement. To be honest, the State allocates many different subsidies, loans and benefits for agricultural and production creation. But we also have quite a few "managers" who find soldier reasons for all of this and love to just buy and sell. But I don’t want to say this with us, ours are all good and angels. Here comes the gradual change of government, and many civil servants. After, (IMHO) should be good to the people.

      you already have quarantine because of the coronavirus, the borders with Iran are closed, there are cases of deaths (if I don’t confuse anything), classes at schools, etc. are stopped, and crowded places are being processed everywhere, buses, taxis, etc. Truth?

      Yes, true, do not confuse anything. On March 14th, we have 15 infected with 1 lethal (Allah rehmet elesin). Schools are already ~ 10-12 days closed, in quarantine, and extended for another 14 days. Borders are closed with Iran, and the ban was also extended for 14 days. And with Georgia today for 3 days (for now) closed. Our (my opinion) was 2-3 days late with Iran, probably thought the neighbor was offended. It was the first infected person who came from Iran (it was he who died, laughing and maybe our own him laughing), and then brought from Italy, and so it went and went.

      PS It’s good for you, Gedar Aliyev - Ilham Aliyev - Heydar Aliyev, well, if the latter loves the pope, again Ilham Aliyev, etc. There are no time limits, as far as I know, your authorities at least do not bother and do not lie to you, and you have no illusions. I’m serious, and this is not an attempt, for example, to hurt you, false illusions are harmful, not everyone is able to pragmatically assess the situation, and everything is clear like God's day.

      As I wrote earlier to you, I do not take offense at the truth, and do not hurt. Yes, that's right. But he is a good man, just not everyone in his circle is good and honest, and not everyone, everything is for the good of the people and the state. But after a phased change, the improvement should be good in many ways.
  • Sarkazm 14 March 2020 22: 53 New
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    Yes, that's right. But he is a good man, just not everyone in his circle is good and honest, and not everyone, everything is for the good of the people and the state. But after a phased change, the improvement should be good in many ways.
    Well, frankly, in our realities, I’m talking about the whole CIS and the "eastern" republics of the ex-USSR, all the more so, an option like yours is better than "from rags to riches."
    Your preza is impressed by both consistency, and reasonable multi-vector politics, and how relations are being built with us and with other neighbors.
    Well, at least I didn’t understand the whole history and meaning of the case in the Czech Republic when your officer hacked an Armenian, but the fact that your pres actually bought his officer for a billion, or so, the amount of investment that actually became a ransom was what it’s astronomical, it cannot but impress, it’s not at all our “they are not there”.

    If closer to the topic. You purchased at one time OTRK Point U, then long-range Israeli MLRS, then Belarusian Polonaise. Everything is clear with the Americans, but why did your country have to invest such funds in the facilities of the very same OTRK? It’s not an option to use them against Armenia, it’s the CSTO country, a retaliatory strike will follow, and Karabakh, which is less than a couple of regions of any of our regions, is shot along and across by conventional artillery, and the MLRS is clearly cheaper. Moreover, a missile base somewhere near Baku, that is, at the opposite end from Karabakh and Armenia.