“Closer to contact with NATO”: the new Minister of Defense of Ukraine is represented by subordinates

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Today, Vladimir Zelensky introduced the Minister of Defense Andrei Taran as a subordinate, who delivered a speech. The new head of the military department believes that reform of the armed forces has matured in the country.

According to the minister, first of all, these transformations should lead the Ukrainian army to close cooperation with the forces of the North Atlantic Alliance. He believes that the APU should be as close as possible to NATO standards. Taran does not expect full adaptation to NATO standards. He considers this an ambitious but unrealistic goal. Instead, Andrei Taran proposes to create conditions for the APU to achieve maximum interaction with the Alliance.



The new minister also noted that the Armed Forces of Ukraine need to modernize military equipment and weapons, use the latest technological achievements. He said that from that moment on, the Ukrainian military would no longer patch up “old holes”, but would begin to create and implement a new development program. In addition, the head of the defense department noted that it was high time for the Ministry of Defense to turn to a military person.

He drew the attention of the audience to the fact that there are many real professionals in the army, so the armed forces must also be made professional.
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  1. Honest Citizen Rank
    Honest Citizen
    +4
    11 March 2020 15: 31
    Nothing new. The course is the same.
    1. For example Rank
      For example
      -3
      11 March 2020 15: 47
      Ukrainian forces need modernization of military equipment and weapons

      This is a fact.
      Only NATO will throw you.

      It is necessary to swear allegiance to Russia. good
      Khnereal will receive a retirement pension also with a clear conscience and good old-age support ..
      Officers will become respected in the community. Housing, social security, pension, etc.
      Otherwise, perish in the trenches.

      Think about the Ukrainian military. wink
      Drive clowns to Europe and return home. To Russia.
      Take the example of Crimeans.

      In the evening we find sadness
      Sometimes, sometimes ...
      The heart aches, the heart asks
      Home, home ...
      Howling wind over the huts
      BMP clanks us -
      Home! Home! Time to go home!
      1. Machito Rank
        Machito
        +1
        11 March 2020 16: 03
        Pinzhak spoke about the professionalism of Ukrovermaht. And where did you forget the tunic? Another clown.
        1. Lelek Rank
          Lelek
          0
          11 March 2020 17: 33
          Quote: Bearded
          And where did you forget the tunic?

          hi
          He left the vole in the locker.
        2. Terenin Rank
          Terenin
          +2
          12 March 2020 06: 06
          Quote: Bearded
          Pinzhak spoke about the professionalism of Ukrovermaht. And where did you forget the tunic? Another clown.

          And, in "civilian" Taranchik wants to pass for a gay European and

          “Closer to contact NATO”
          love feel
      2. behappy
        behappy
        -2
        11 March 2020 23: 54
        Quote: For example
        It is necessary to swear allegiance to Russia. [...]
        Officers will become respected in the community. Housing, social security, pension, etc.
        [...]
        Think about the Ukrainian military.
        [...]
        Take the example of Crimeans.

        Young ... man ... like young .. like man ..
        So it's called - Betrayal! Everywhere! In Russia / Ukraine / Honduras / China ... and even in Zimbabwe!
        And what attitude to traitors even among those to whom they sided? That's right, at first bravura-meritorious, then quietly suspicious, well, and then shot first (like Russian-tsarist officers in the USSR). I'm not talking about the attitude of those who are betrayed!
        So it is not necessary to make calls for such actions with the capabilities of your low "patriotism" - low! Even thinking about it low and mean! In any country!
        Do not return to the people who betrayed you. They do not change.
        I am generally very surprised sometimes to talk about some return of Crimeans (well, those .. what kind of apartment, for retirement ..) to Ukraine in the Ukrainian media. This should never be done by Ukraine. Because ... it is impossible - in the sense of It is not Necessary and Stupid and It is impossible - to return those who betrayed at least once!
        So it is with everyone and in everything. And this also applies to states, even more so. Why? - I hope this is clear.
        And forgive? How is that ?!
        Betrayal suddenly unexpected,
        What with an ax - deprived of hands! ..
        Blessed is he that can forgive ...
        It is a pity not to get a hug!
    2. Nyrobsky Rank
      Nyrobsky
      +1
      11 March 2020 16: 39
      Quote: Honest Citizen
      Nothing new. The course is the same.

      To be more precise, then - Minister is new. The course is the same.
      PS- Moreover, over the years of independence, this is already the 21st or 22nd Minister of Defense "reformer".
      1. Lelek Rank
        Lelek
        +1
        11 March 2020 17: 29
        Quote: Nyrobsky
        To be more precise, the Minister is new. The course is the same.

        hi , Dmitry.
        Well, why change the course of the most powerful European army?

        "Dispersed, and pouring ..." (V. Vysotsky)
        1. Nyrobsky Rank
          Nyrobsky
          +1
          11 March 2020 17: 38
          Quote: Lelek
          Well, why change the course of the most powerful European army?

          That is yes. There, little depends on the change of course. All the ministers led the army round dance in a vicious circle, except for Poltorak, who managed to lead them south-north, as a result, they left the standards of the Soviet army, but did not come close to NATO standards. They apparently have their own course - to a standstill. hi
    3. Baloo Rank
      Baloo
      +1
      11 March 2020 16: 41
      Quote: Honest Citizen
      Nothing new. The course is the same.

      Maydown of the brain is cured only by a grave digger in a cemetery. Where did this battering ram go through internships in fashionington or Brussels?
    4. orionvitt Rank
      orionvitt
      0
      11 March 2020 17: 29
      Quote: Honest Citizen
      Nothing new. The course is the same.

      The result will be the same as before. Or most likely, worse. The trend however.
      1. tihonmarine Rank
        tihonmarine
        0
        11 March 2020 17: 44
        Quote: orionvitt
        Or worse. The trend however.

        Rather, the diagnosis.
    5. antivirus Rank
      antivirus
      0
      11 March 2020 17: 30
      such holiday is not May 9, on the day of the decree on the amnesty of Bvandera’s
      1. Stasi Rank
        Stasi
        +2
        12 March 2020 00: 53
        Quote: antivirus
        such holiday is not May 9

        recourse yeah ... problem recourse on what date is the parade overpowered by the APU in Sevastopol now?


        The newly appointed Minister of Defense promised to hold a Victory Parade in Sevastopol
        July 3 2014
        Geletey is sure that Ukraine will win, and Ukrainians will celebrate the victory in Sevastopol.
        The newly appointed head of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine Valery Geletey promised to celebrate the Victory Parade in Ukrainian Sevastopol. He stated this from the rostrum of the Verkhovna Rada after his appointment on Thursday, July 3.

        "I promise that as Minister of Defense, with your support, I will do everything possible to ensure the safety of our compatriots, to ensure peace in our state. I am convinced that Ukraine will win. And believe me, there will be a victory parade, surely, in Ukrainian Sevastopol."
  2. Vyacheslav p Rank
    Vyacheslav p
    +4
    11 March 2020 15: 32
    And the surname corresponds)))) Will go bare forehead with bulging eyes, but on an old abrams to attack, to scare the damned Russian)))
  3. knn54 Rank
    knn54
    +2
    11 March 2020 15: 36
    Contrary to NATO standards, Zelensky appointed the former military not minister of defense, but civilian.
    1. Azazelo Rank
      Azazelo
      +1
      11 March 2020 15: 56
      And not a woman of a gynecologist and transtivitis at the same time. Not at all by NATO standards ...
      1. Stasi Rank
        Stasi
        +1
        12 March 2020 00: 55
        Quote: Azazelo
        And not a woman of a gynecologist and transtivitis at the same time. Not at all by NATO standards

        HELLO! Uniform Yes
  4. alien Rank
    alien
    +5
    11 March 2020 15: 38
    “Closer to contact with NATO”: the new Minister of Defense of Ukraine is represented by subordinates

    The cannons go back to battle, -
    It has been said a long time ...

    A. Twardowski
    1. cost Rank
      cost
      +1
      12 March 2020 01: 02
      the new Minister of Defense of Ukraine is represented by subordinates

      What is known about Taran
      Biography of Andrey Taran
      Andrei Taran was born on March 4, 1955 in Frankfurt an der Oder, Germany, in a military family.
      In the 1970s, he graduated from the Kiev Anti-Aircraft Missile Engineering School. There he received the specialty of military engineer-radio engineer.
      After that, Taran served in the Soviet army, and in the 80s he graduated from the Military Academy of Air Defense of the Ground Forces in Kiev. His specialty is called "Combat Management."
      In addition, in 1993, Andrey Taran was retrained at the Institute of International Relations in Kiev for the diplomatic service.
      Between 1995 and 1996, he received his Master's degree in National Resource Strategy from the US National Defense University in Washington.
      Taran is fluent in English.
      Military career
      Since 1992, Andrei Taran served in the central apparatus of the Ministry of Defense, after 2 years he moved to the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense.
      From 1996 to 1998, he worked at the National Security and Defense Council as an expert at the Strategic Planning and Analysis Center.
      After that he returned to the central apparatus of the Ministry of Defense.
      From 2005 to 2008, he held the post of head of the department in the Ministry of Defense, and from 2008 he was deputy head of the Main Directorate of Intelligence of the Ministry of Defense.
      In December 2015, he was appointed to the post of First Deputy Commander of the Ground Forces of the Armed Forces, this position was officially held until April 2016.
      In 2016, he was transferred to the reserve upon reaching the age limit of general service.
      Diplomatic service
      From 1999 to 2004, Andriy Taran was a military attaché at the Ukrainian Embassy in the United States.
      From 2011 to 2014, he was a representative of the Ministry of Defense at the Ukrainian mission to the UN.
      In September 2015, Andrey Taran entered the working subgroup on security issues at the TKG in Minsk. He worked in this subgroup until November 2015.
      Also, from April to August 2015, he was the representative of Ukraine in the Joint Center for Control and Coordination in the Donbass (JCCC).
      Just on the day of his probable appointment to the chair of the head of the Ministry of Defense, March 4, Taran turns 65 years old.
      Declaration
      In the declaration for 2019, Taran indicated an apartment in Kiev with an area of ​​100 square meters, as well as two land plots in the Kiev region, with a total area of ​​more than 2200 square meters.
      In addition, Taran included 3 cars in the declaration: Buick brands of 2013 release (cost - 351 042 hryvnias), Infifnity cars of 2007 release (153 913 hryvnias), Mercedes Benz cars of 2001 release (59 754 hryvnias).
      Andrey Taran in 2019 received a salary of 29 hryvnias, state social and material assistance in the amount of 477 hryvnias, a salary from the Ministry of Defense in the amount of 10 hryvnias, and a pension of 250 hryvnias.
      Saves such cash assets: 21 thousand dollars, 5 thousand euros and 16 154 hryvnia.
      Family
      Ram is married. With his wife Victoria has two children in marriage.
  5. Masha Rank
    Masha
    +6
    11 March 2020 15: 40
    The broom is new, but the language sweeps the old .......
    1. Alex Justice Rank
      Alex Justice
      +1
      12 March 2020 10: 40
      Ukraine thinks that if it joins NATO, then reunification with Russia will be impossible. But history shows that Ukraine has always returned to Russia, because there is one people, one language.
  6. maidan.izrailovich Rank
    maidan.izrailovich
    +5
    11 March 2020 15: 42
    Born March 4, 1955 in Frankfurt an der Oder (GDR) in the family of a military man who served in a group of Soviet troops in Germany.

    Dad must have passed the Great Patriotic War. Apparently, he missed something in raising his son. Once he fraternizes with enemies.
    1. tihonmarine Rank
      tihonmarine
      0
      11 March 2020 17: 33
      Quote: maidan.izrailovich
      Apparently, he missed something in raising his son. Once he fraternizes with enemies.

      Or the call of the ancestors, or the deformation of the personality.
    2. behappy
      behappy
      -1
      12 March 2020 00: 27
      Quote: maidan.izrailovich
      Since he fraternizes with enemies

      Peter Petrovich Schmidt, lieutenant, in 1905 led an uprising on the cruiser Ochakov.
      So is he an enemy or friend? Traitor or Faithful and Loyal Combat Officer?
      These questions are not complete, if you do not consider the party that asks them, right?
      That's the point - depending on whom friend / enemy, traitor / loyal.
      So with your statement - you are there, and he is on the other hand. And this - as you can see - are completely two different views.
  7. Andrey Mikhaylov Rank
    Andrey Mikhaylov
    -1
    11 March 2020 16: 07
    He has not yet been marked by new boilers, he is still ahead.
  8. Dimy4 Rank
    Dimy4
    +4
    11 March 2020 16: 27
    ... to close collaboration ...

    Sooo tight, even closer, oh good. Well, and how roles are distributed in this slightly obscene phrase, you will guess for yourself.
  9. primala Rank
    primala
    +1
    11 March 2020 16: 44
    Andrey Vasilievich Taran - 1995-1996 - studied at the US National University of Defense in Washington
    ==================
    everything is clear with him ...
    1. tihonmarine Rank
      tihonmarine
      0
      11 March 2020 17: 42
      Quote: primaala
      everything is clear with him.

      And they didn’t forcefully drive him there, but went according to his desire, although as a military man he had an excellent education. (Although I have not read anywhere what rank and position he held in the Soviet army).
      1. primala Rank
        primala
        0
        11 March 2020 17: 51
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Quote: primaala
        everything is clear with him.

        And they didn’t forcefully drive him there, but went according to his desire, although as a military man he had an excellent education. (Although I have not read anywhere what rank and position he held in the Soviet army).

        ==============================
        Most likely ... and did not serve, except in the army, as a draftee.
        Immediately go "bought" it. By the expression "face" it is noticeable that he is still m \ to corrupt.
        1. tihonmarine Rank
          tihonmarine
          0
          11 March 2020 18: 47
          Quote: primaala
          Most likely ... and did not serve, except in the army, as a draftee.

          No, they write that in the 1970s he graduated from the Kiev anti-aircraft missile engineering school. There he received the specialty of military engineer-radio engineer.
          After that, Taran served in the Soviet army, and in the 80s he graduated from the Military Academy of Air Defense of the Ground Forces in Kiev. His specialty is called "combat control. The truth about the service in the SA is unknown."
  10. Vasyan1971 Rank
    Vasyan1971
    +1
    11 March 2020 16: 45
    He believes that the APU should be as close as possible to NATO standards.

    At a minimum, you need to learn a fashionable song:
    "For you, I have bruises on both knees"
  11. primala Rank
    primala
    0
    11 March 2020 16: 56
    The people are tired. Do not ask, few people believe in the best changes in Ukraine. (girlfriend often visits Cherkasy). Yes, and on the webcam there is someone to talk to. After the events of 2014, everyone who thinks sensibly was ousted from the Rada. Bondarenko Elena is a smart woman (a deputy from the Donbass), or the same former Minister Azarov. Clever man. Of course, he is already aged, but he could do a lot for the country (which he did).
    Yanukovych when he embarked on the duties of the president - mumbled. And you can understand. Experience has come over the years. He really (along with Azarov) tried to do useful things for Ukraine. The EU is bondage.
    I know one Latvian military man (he served in Afghanistan under the alliance), he just said so: "if they knew where we were sticking our head, they would think a hundred times." And this was said by a man / military man who was born and raised in the Baltic States. Advanced Baltics.
    As far as I know ... many people think so. Recently one of our emigrants wrote (Germany), "The people of Europe began to understand what is happening and support the policy of Russia." Oh how !!! I believe !!!
    1. cniza Rank
      cniza
      +3
      11 March 2020 17: 13
      And it was said by a man / military man who was born and raised in the Baltic states. Advanced Baltic.


      Where is she going? belay laughing
      1. primala Rank
        primala
        -2
        11 March 2020 17: 20
        Quote: cniza
        And it was said by a man / military man who was born and raised in the Baltic states. Advanced Baltic.


        Where is she going? belay laughing

        ========================
        Of course, I was too young to know all the subtleties about the Baltic states (and about the union), but since grew observant and "quirky", I remember well how everyone was eager to visit the Baltics (a piece of "Europe").
        So ... from today, I can safely conclude.
        1. cniza Rank
          cniza
          +4
          11 March 2020 17: 24
          It was her USSR that "cleaned, scrubbed, fed and shod" like a showcase and nothing more, and when they "floated" on their own, the result is visible to everyone ...
          1. primala Rank
            primala
            +3
            11 March 2020 17: 28
            Quote: cniza
            It was her USSR that "cleaned, scrubbed, fed and shod" like a showcase and nothing more, and when they "floated" on their own, the result is visible to everyone ...

            =============
            "independently" NONE of the former republics have coped with it, except for Russia.
            The fact is famous.
          2. tihonmarine Rank
            tihonmarine
            +1
            11 March 2020 18: 27
            Quote: cniza
            It was her USSR that "cleaned, scrubbed, fed and shod" like a showcase and nothing more, and when they "floated" on their own, the result is visible to everyone ...

            And they are trying to fit the army to NATO standards, and forgetting what they had in collapse.
            Three very strong military districts of the second strategic echelon and three air armies (not counting a powerful arsenal of strategic nuclear forces), the total number is about 800 thousand people. The troops were equipped with a huge amount of modern military equipment. In terms of the number of tanks (more than 6100) and combat aircraft (more than 1100), Ukraine ranked 4th in the world after the United States, Russia and China. And thank God that we managed to snatch the atomic grenade out of their hands.
    2. businessv Rank
      businessv
      +2
      11 March 2020 17: 17
      Quote: primaala
      "The people of Europe have begun to understand what is happening and support Russia's policy." Oh how !!! I believe !!!

      Do not believe in vain, but not all European nations do it - the mentality is not the same, unfortunately! Germany has a lot of our former citizens, so there are many sympathizers of Russia. By the way, only our former citizens in Germany are afraid of all current migrants from the East and are asked not to put them in places of compact residence of ours! Ours do not allow them to touch their women, immediately explaining to them in sign language to the head that they should not do this!
      1. primala Rank
        primala
        0
        11 March 2020 17: 23
        Quote: businessv
        Quote: primaala
        "The people of Europe have begun to understand what is happening and support Russia's policy." Oh how !!! I believe !!!

        Do not believe in vain, but not all European nations do it - the mentality is not the same, unfortunately! Germany has a lot of our former citizens, so there are many sympathizers of Russia. By the way, only our former citizens in Germany are afraid of all current migrants from the East and are asked not to put them in places of compact residence of ours! Ours do not allow them to touch their women, immediately explaining to them in sign language to the head that they should not do this!

        ====================
        Let me express my opinion. The organized crime group is unable to "take" Russia from Europe, THEY decided to play it off with BV.
        since Russia is a multinational country. And we know the "tricks" of the Caucasus. And not only...
        1. businessv Rank
          businessv
          0
          11 March 2020 21: 52
          Quote: primaala
          THEY decided to play with BV.
          since Russia is a multinational country. And we know the "tricks" of the Caucasus. And not only...

          Less dots, colleague, more thoughts please, because no one can forbid you to express your opinion more clearly, right ?! Through Europe it is difficult to take anything in Russia, not to mention Russia itself, so you think a little wrong way, as for me. hi
    3. tihonmarine Rank
      tihonmarine
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      11 March 2020 17: 26
      Quote: primaala
      "if we knew where we were sticking our heads, we would have thought a hundred times"

      Interestingly, Afghan passed, but did not know that you should not stick your head into the western pool. Although many believed in the coming paradise. Well, at least once looked at how the neighbors of the states live on the American continent. They are very bad, that their states do not like them, and you are such smart, good, kind, amazing independent guys and you need to be loved for this, more than others. But this does not happen "My shirt is closer to my body, and I also have a lot of relatives."
      1. primala Rank
        primala
        0
        11 March 2020 17: 29
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Quote: primaala
        "if we knew where we were sticking our heads, we would have thought a hundred times"

        Interestingly, Afghan passed, but did not know that you should not stick your head into the western pool. Although many believed in the coming paradise. Well, at least once looked at how the neighbors of the states live on the American continent. They are very bad, that their states do not like them, and you are such smart, good, kind, amazing independent guys and you need to be loved for this, more than others. But this does not happen "My shirt is closer to my body, and I also have a lot of relatives."

        =======================
        There is safety in numbers. What could he do !? then ...
        1. tihonmarine Rank
          tihonmarine
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          11 March 2020 18: 12
          Quote: primaala
          There is safety in numbers. What could he do !?

          Nothing, as one wise man said, "The process has already begun."
    4. cat Rusich Rank
      cat Rusich
      0
      12 March 2020 00: 04
      V. Yanukovych = M. Gorbachev. Under V. Yanukovych, propaganda began about the entry of Ukraine into Europe - and from Russia there are constant "demands" for all kinds of benefits and discounts, otherwise we will go to Europe. About the "character" of V. Yanukovych - N. Azarov fired for the sake of Maidan, in an interview that was already done in Russia, V. Yanukovych said that if he did it all again, he (V. Yanukovych) would have done everything the same - he would not to disperse the Maidan by force ... V. Medvedchuk = V. Yanukovych 2.
  12. businessv Rank
    businessv
    +1
    11 March 2020 17: 12
    He drew the attention of the audience to the fact that there are many real professionals in the army, so the armed forces must also be made professional.
    Precisely noticed! Professional builders, teachers, doctors, etc. professionals! Half of the population of the western part of the world earns in military service. The Minister of Defense has a symbolic surname - Taran!
  13. primala Rank
    primala
    0
    11 March 2020 17: 18
    Listen (who cares)
    https://youtu.be/xxnJZJ7qn8A
  14. tihonmarine Rank
    tihonmarine
    0
    11 March 2020 17: 18
    The new head of the military department believes that reform of the armed forces has matured in the country.
    In Ukraine, as the new Minister of Defense, so immediately the reform of the army. Well, of course, first of all, to take an oath to the owners. "I am so so so that (write in full name) I solemnly promise to be loyal to my uncle's descendants from across the river." Nothing new is happening, loyalty, dedication to the ideals of NATO and the new world order.
  15. NF68 Rank
    NF68
    0
    11 March 2020 17: 20
    Do not contact NATO, but six.
  16. orionvitt Rank
    orionvitt
    +3
    11 March 2020 17: 27
    stop patching "old holes", and begin to create and implement a new development program
    Already funny.
    It’s time for the Ministry of Defense to turn to a military face
    Even funnier. It turns out that all these years, the Ministry of Defense, stood back to the level. Here it is. laughing And I thought what the problem was. laughing
  17. alien Rank
    alien
    +3
    11 March 2020 17: 44
    Quote: primaala
    The people are tired. Do not ask, few people believe in the best changes in Ukraine.

    Opinion of the participant of the Maidan, a native of the city of Kazatin, Vinnytsia region:
    "The Maidan was in vain, it is a failure. I am ashamed of my participation in it."

    "I will tell my grandchildren the truth about the Maidan and about the retouched photos. In one of them, my former acquaintance, also a student, is swinging a stick at a berkutov, and a journalist of a foreign agency wiped this stick."

    “What do we have? Minus Crimea and minus Donbass. Growth of the right-wing movement and general radicalization of society. A decline in the quality of education, but a social ladder has appeared for“ people with a certificate ”and other“ non-personnel. ”Thousands of young people with traumatized psyche after the war (hello , Afghan, nineties). Ridiculous reforms (police, medical, etc.). The economy collapsed, and domestic and foreign politics is not even politics. Even our masters began to scare us, I mean the US. Actually, they are this Maidan and started - for the sake of war with Russia "

    https://strana.ua/articles/236619-chto-sluchilos-s-izbitymi-berkutom-studentami-cherez-shest-let-posle-majdana.html
  18. rocket757 Rank
    rocket757
    +2
    11 March 2020 17: 51
    The subordinate introduced himself as a subordinate!
    The exact slogan for the whole Ukrainian team ... clowns!
  19. iouris Rank
    iouris
    +2
    11 March 2020 18: 31
    Reforms need a lot of money. Does he have them?
  20. mikstepanenko Rank
    mikstepanenko
    +1
    11 March 2020 19: 37
    In no civil conflict has native troops trained, armed and led by American "instructors" ever won.
    1. aszzz888 Rank
      aszzz888
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      12 March 2020 01: 59
      mikstepanenko (Mikhail Stepanenko) Yesterday, 19:37
      +1
      In no civil conflict has native troops trained, armed and led by American "instructors" ever won.
      Very rightly noticed, but with the mericatos in relation to the ukronazists, another task. To give them all for slaughter, and most importantly to make the abyss between Russia and the unnecessary completely insurmountable. Well, the top of their wet dreams is to have their bases on our borders. Yes, I missed what remains of the unnecessary - land, take control of ourselves.
  21. Kerensky Rank
    Kerensky
    0
    11 March 2020 20: 22
    It is possible, it is possible to organize "regiments of a foreign system". Wigs, camisoles there ... although who is fighting in single-breasted now ?!
    Is there a spirit? Honor? Courage? They won’t give up tanks from NATO ...
    1. iouris Rank
      iouris
      +1
      11 March 2020 20: 56
      Quote: Kerensky
      Is there a spirit? Honor? Courage?

      Wars are classified, firstly, as fair and unfair. The question of the moral-political and moral factors of military operations directly follows from the solution of this question.
  22. Fishery Rank
    Fishery
    -1
    11 March 2020 22: 09
    Maidan is a classic coup ... unfortunately successful.
  23. Chaldon48 Rank
    Chaldon48
    0
    12 March 2020 01: 37
    Let the last effort chase for NATO, like Achilles for the turtle.
  24. aszzz888 Rank
    aszzz888
    0
    12 March 2020 01: 55
    Today, Vladimir Zelensky introduced the Minister of Defense Andrei Taran as subordinates,
    This is already there, in a row, completely lost. lol Even the Internet is stupid from such a question. laughing
  25. Terenin Rank
    Terenin
    +3
    12 March 2020 02: 38
    Yes, for such words:

    “Closer to contact NATO”

    This "smart guy"
    new Minister of Defense of Ukraine submitted subordinates
    it would be better right away introduced winked in front of subordinates crying
  26. Shuttle Rank
    Shuttle
    0
    12 March 2020 03: 48
    ... APU needs to be as close as possible to NATO standards.
    ... It is high time for the Ministry of Defense to turn to a military face.

    If the Ministry of Defense as a conductor drags the APU closer to NATO, then how will it turn to NATO if it turns to a military person?
  27. shark Rank
    shark
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    12 March 2020 09: 06
    We are here, of course, training in wit and in who is more beautiful to "lower" the Ukrainian army. Here is the Eurogabon and the Ukrainian Wehrmacht ... BUT, did you ever think that sooner or later, after a couple of hundred stolen millions, they will succeed? And we will get an ABSOLUTELY hostile army at our borders. And the army is not some kind of defective warriors such as the French or the Danes. And the most, that neither is, real Russians? The army of a country that categorically does not want to negotiate! Moreover, the Novorossiya project collapsed completely for many centuries. At least with us, they will no longer be operated on. And the time for preventive action, as I understand it, has been lost.