Defense Ministry denies Ankara's statement on the destruction of eight "Shell" in Syria

Statement of the Turkish Ministry of Defense on the destruction in Syria by Turkish drones eight anti-aircraft missile and gun systems (ZRPK) "Pantsir-S" of the Syrian army, is not true. The Russian Ministry of Defense made such a statement on Tuesday.

The Russian military department has denied a statement by the Turkish leadership about the allegedly eight Pantsir-S air defense missile systems destroyed by Turkish UAVs in Idlib province. According to the representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense, the main forces and means of the Syrian air defense, including the Pantsir-S air defense missile system, are concentrated in the Damascus area. In the Syrian province of Idlib, only four complexes carried out cover for troops.

Estimates presented to the head of the Republic of Turkey on the combat effectiveness of the use of strike UAVs in the province of Idlib, allegedly able to destroy eight Syrian anti-aircraft missile-cannon systems "Shell", are untrue and are more than an exaggeration

- Said the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.

According to the Russian military, as a result of massive attacks by Turkish drones, two Syria army air defense missiles received damage (not destroyed, but damaged). Currently, their recovery is coming to an end, and soon the complexes will begin to carry out combat missions.

As a result of the massive attacks of Turkish strike UAVs, two Syrian air defense missiles "Shell" were damaged. Their recovery is currently being finalized.

- specified in the ministry.

Earlier, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said that Turkish drones destroyed eight Syrian army shells in Idlib.

Comments

[Prahlad]

It is a pity that there is no video of how the carapace shoots down Turkish drones, good advertising would be

[Nadsor]

Statement by the Turkish Ministry of Defense on the destruction of Turkish drones in Syria

Well, they announced early .. Until the video game has not been mounted.
Eh Erdogan, well, you’ll run into soon ... bastard!
PS The game will be called the return of Gulen to Ankara
Bloody game is very

[Hunter 2]

Advertising and so good! According to Turkish data, it turns out that the Four complexes located there - were destroyed TWO times!
Straight Shell - Immortal (at least change the name)!

[Nikolay3]

As a result of the massive attacks of Turkish strike UAVs, two Syrian air defense missiles "Shell" were damaged. Their recovery is currently being finalized.

The picture shows Pantsir-C2, which are used only by Russia in Syria.

[Yeraz]

Quote: Hunter 2

According to Turkish data, it turns out

Are you sure? https://t.co/o8KZdniZ6p pic.twitter.com/6DGGVPhqIP

- Clash Report (@clashreport) March 11, 2020

[senima56]

So "Carapace" didn't knock down anything. At least there was information that the Turkish UAVs were shot down by the Syrian air defense systems "Tor-2ME".

[sivuch]

This is not in nature? Syria Torah did not purchase.

[senima56]

You are right - I was wrong "by three" letters "Buk-M2E", but not "Tor-M2E"!

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: Prahlad

It is a pity that there is no video of how the carapace shoots down Turkish drones, good advertising would be

"Syrian MC claims that the success of Syria's air defense is due to the presence of Buk-M2E anti-aircraft missile systems in its arsenal."
https://topwar.ru/168817-zrk-buk-sirijskih-pvo-uspeshno-borjutsja-s-tureckimi-bespilotnikami.html

[Ka-52]

ordinary military PR: we underestimate our losses by 10 times, we’ll overestimate our enemy’s losses by 10 times.

[Fishery]

“They never lie as much as during the war, after the hunt, and before the election.”

[bessmertniy]

When the Turkish military reported their victories to Erdogan, they exaggerated a little so that more rewards would fall on their shoulder straps and chests.

[Yeraz]

Quote: Ka-52

ordinary military PR: we underestimate our losses by 10 times, we’ll overestimate our enemy’s losses by 10 times.

Are you sure? https://t.co/o8KZdniZ6p pic.twitter.com/6DGGVPhqIP

- Clash Report (@clashreport) March 11, 2020

[mammadov teymur]

I don’t know how correct the infa (about the shell) is, but orders for Turkish BP have already gone, Pakistan, Tunisia have already signed up to $ 80

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: mammadov teymur

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there seems to be one their drone costs 30 lyamas !!!

[mammadov teymur]

whichever is the cheapest, Bayraktar tb 2 (swarm of kamikaze doesn’t count) costs 6 (apiece, without a control station) but there are also better ones who fly a drone with jet engines approaching the stratosphere + an invisible type of the Russian Hunter

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: mammadov teymur

whichever is the cheapest, Bayraktar tb 2 (swarm of kamikaze doesn’t count) costs 6 (apiece, without a control station) but there are also better ones who fly a drone with jet engines approaching the stratosphere + an invisible type of the Russian Hunter

Well, what did they brag about then ???

Quote: mammadov teymur

already signed up for 80 million dollars

it's just a few pieces !!!

[Sky strike fighter]

Earlier, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said that Turkish drones destroyed eight Syrian army shells in Idlib.

So the firm of Erdogan’s son-in-law produces these drones. Here he is, and praises a relative in order to make an advertisement. In order for the business to go. Someone else knows Erdogan.

[protoss]

finally son-in-law took up long before meeting Erdoganov’s daughter.
Now his family ties, of course, are also a plus, but in general, sensible UAVs are riveting and quickly, in contrast to the tai state office.
Now, in the wake of success and from the Ministry of Defense, they will throw some money and foreign buyers will stir. so you can break into the market leaders.

[Oquzyurd]

Bayraktar developed this industry even before he became a son-in-law. He is a very gifted person, and he is not alone, he does everything together with his brother. And in the beginning his father financed everything. (In the beginning, they even sold their house to invest in a mini workshop where they collected small flying mock-ups) They created small, but completely autonomous UAVs. He then, after all, became Erdogan’s son-in-law. At the expense of advertising, Anka-S (TAI) state, Bayraktar tv2 (Baykar) private company.

[g1v2]

I didn’t notice that he didn’t make Anku. Now it is clear why so many "tractors" have been purchased and so few anoks.

[WOLF330]

So Bayraktars on this theater are more effective. Anka has a higher ceiling and a little more global goals. And if treated objectively, then the Bayraktars have done business. No matter how hard it was, the Turkish UAVs clearly showed themselves not from the worst side.

[g1v2]

Well, do not forget that they showed themselves while the Syrians and ours did not tighten the air defense. Then their successes abruptly subsided, and the losses increased. In Libya, they are also well shot down by Emirate shells. But given that the Turkish air force has no attack aircraft and relatively few attack helicopters, Bayraktara is an inexpensive substitute for it. Moreover, it does not require complicated training of pilots and does not lead to their losses. But against a serious enemy with advanced air defense and fighter aircraft - they will end very quickly.
In fact, this is an analogue of our corsair. Only in our army is Corsair a niche thing, and in the Turkish its role is much more serious.

[Vlad.by]

This is still nobody Tornadoes and Points on the control points are not slaughtered. So far, only defense, but it comes to preemptive strikes

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: KURT330

And if you treat objectively,

and how to do it ???

Quote: KURT330

the Bayraktars did business.

without an objective picture, you still concluded!

[Oquzyurd]

Anka is larger and three times more expensive, a much more serious equipment. Bayraktar is much cheaper, low cost in operation, because there are more orders.

[Sky strike fighter]

Who buys Bayraktara? Tripoli, Turkey and Ukraine? The cost is close to the price of a helicopter, but they are of little use, and they often get them down in the same Libya. 110 km / h Bayraktara speed. A good target.

In late May and early June 2019, a second batch arrived, probably counting eight Bayraktar TB2 UAVs, to compensate for combat losses and increase operational capabilities. In response to this, the All-Russian Union of Artists planned, and on August 15, 2019 launched a high-precision strike on the hangars of the Misrat Aviation School, which were recently built to accommodate the Bayraktarov TB2. On August 18, 2019, the All-Russian Air Force carried out additional attacks on the territory of the aerodrome, expanding their radius to destroy more new infrastructure and UAV support facilities.
The high percentage of losses of Bayraktar TB2 UAV as a result of strikes by the All-Russian Union of Aviation and the Vin Moon II UAV resulted in the appearance of a third consignment of Bayraktarov TB2019 in Misrata at the end of August 2, delivered by Ukrainian airlines on the An-12 and IL-76TD aircraft. In total, at least 16 UAVs were delivered.

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3874232.html

[Oquzyurd]

First of all, they are ordered by the Turkish Armed Forces and the gendarmerie. They are very cheaper for their VS. Therefore, they order a lot, let them in like a black galosh. They sell abroad in three roads. Recently they opened another plant for the inlet of composite materials that are used to create the corps these drones. That is, expand production.

[Oquzyurd]

Bayraktars sold abroad Tripoli (? Pcs), Ukraine (6 pcs) and Qatar (12 pcs). Anka-C 2-3 days ago received an order from Tunisia, in the first batch of 6 pcs.

[rocket757]

And there are all the numbers, from all sides it is necessary to either divide or multiply, multiple! There is nothing new in that.

[protoss]

the truth is somewhere in between

[rocket757]

truth, poor, rushing somewhere nearby ... can’t stumble anywhere.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: rocket757

And there are all the numbers, from all sides it is necessary to either divide or multiply, multiple! There is nothing new in that.

judging by the "geographical" results, the CAA bent a fart along with its official and unofficial terrorists !!! if we don’t seem to have objective data on the loss of manpower and equipment - !!!

[rocket757]

Subjective assessments are very different, but in fact, who really WANTED what and what achieved .... it is difficult to decide, because real plans and intentions can only be understood by the Syrian government - to free the territory of the state from the barmaley and not called "liberators"! There are successes, but they have been paid dearly !!! Again, a good lesson for the future. to fight with the barmaley or with the regular army is not weak, in all respects, the country has a big difference !!!

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: rocket757

There are successes, but paid dearly for them !!!

it is, as it were, a subjective assessment again, because we are not in the courses on the real losses of the parties !!! but the fact that the SAA piled on the farther and its henchmen and liberated thousands of kilometers of the Idlib territory is an objective fact !!!

[rocket757]

There is no data that can be trusted without a doubt.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: rocket757

There is no data that can be trusted without a doubt.

Nooooo ... nuuuuuuu ... in other circumstances it may be, but not when it comes from the fart !!! after his statements about a couple of thousand destroyed SAA military, you start to wonder if there were any losses at the SAA !!!

[rocket757]

Our Defense Ministry is nevertheless drawn into the conflict by the very, most quick way, you have to work and keep a mark of objectivity ..... you have forgotten how to do it, and politicians are trying to steer, tf-u.

[Vasyan1971]

Earlier, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said that Turkish drones destroyed eight Syrian army shells in Idlib.

Something modest, however ...

[Chingachguk]

And leather jackets !!!!! Also three !!!!!

[Thrifty]

Here the question is bluntly - are they definitely Syrian "Shells" or are they ours, Russian? Because if ours is the fact of the beginning of a war against Russia, and the country is obliged to inflict a powerful missile and bomb strike on Turkey, as a preventive measure of counteraction, in response to the same aggressive Turkish actions against our military personnel.

[WOLF330]

Syrian?)) Does Assad have air defense?

[Sky strike fighter]

Oddly enough, in 2011 they also bought Buk-M2E.

According to the representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense, the main forces and means of the Syrian air defense, including the Pantsir-S air defense missile system, are concentrated in the Damascus region. In the Syrian province of Idlib, the troops were covered by only four complexes.

[ultra]

36 shells, under contract, were delivered to Syria.

[T.Henks]

Thrifty, do you want to deprive us of our legal "all inclusive" by the summer? The people will not understand.

[alex aircraft]

The bottom line is that even the janissaries have shock drones. And the videoconferencing systems do not have them close and in the near future they will not predict. All these "hunters" are still only PR, like petrels, poseidons, etc. Fact !!!

[neri73-r]

Quote: alex aircraft

The bottom line is that even the janissaries have shock drones. And the videoconferencing systems do not have them close and in the near future they will not predict. All these "hunters" are still only PR, like petrels, poseidons, etc. Fact !!!

No, no, sleep well, we have nothing, what’s there, a gas station and that’s all!

[mvg]

sleep well

https://aviation21.ru/tag/bpla/
Here is a link for you, look at the dates of acceptance for armament / testing of UAVs. Expand and decide how many UAV units can be in service. Plus drug training. Well, go to bed already if the lessons are done.

[neri73-r]

Quote: mvg

sleep well

https://aviation21.ru/tag/bpla/
Here is a link for you, look at the dates of acceptance for armament / testing of UAVs. Expand and decide how many UAV units can be in service. Plus drug training. Well, go to bed already if the lessons are done.

Found an authoritative publication! Shchas MO RF will reveal to you the number of standing in service and types of UAVs. I did my last lessons about 30 years ago. And in Syria, we take drones from Ukraine as a loan to fly.

[Romanenko]

Should this be understood as an average correction for the results of the operation?
That is, we introduce a reduction factor 4 (8/2 = 4) for all results.
Then 20 downed drones turn into 20/4 = 5
Perhaps these figures are closer to the truth?

[WOLF330]

The Turks lost 8 UAVs, this information is in the public domain. 6 of them fell in the territory controlled by them, 2 - in the territory controlled by government forces.

[Sky strike fighter]

Turkey recognized the loss of 12 UAVs. The destruction of 6 Anka-S and 7 Bayraktar was confirmed. (photo and video), but most of the downed UAVs fell on the territory not controlled by the SAA. By the way the other day, another Bayraktar fell on the Syrian-Turkish border. Turkish media wrote about this, allegedly for technical reasons.

[donavi49]

He fell at Batman Merkez. Find it on google map.

In a straight line to the battlefield - 450km. To the Syrian border 100km. To Iraqi 150.

[open]

If the Turks knocked out the shell, then these air defense systems and, in general, Syrian air defense, does not pose any danger to the United States.

[neri73-r]

Quote: abror

If the Turks knocked out the shell, then these air defense systems and, in general, Syrian air defense, does not pose any danger to the United States.

And then why are the states so worried about the s-400?

[Sky strike fighter]

Quote: neri73-r

Quote: abror

If the Turks knocked out the shell, then these air defense systems and, in general, Syrian air defense, does not pose any danger to the United States.

And then why are the states so worried about the s-400?

For them, the Turkish S-400 will work if that.

[Piramidon]

Quote: abror

If the Turks knocked out the shell

Yeah, as many as eight out of four.

[Santa Fe]

Yeah, as many as eight out of four.

How do you know how many were there

[Piramidon]

Quote: Santa Fe

How do you know how many were there

I read in the article.

According to the representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense, the main forces and means of the Syrian air defense, including the Pantsir-S air defense missile system, are concentrated in the Damascus region. In the Syrian province of Idlib, only four complex.

[Santa Fe]

Now, after the battle, the MO can write anything. What complexes there were three. Or five

According to official figures, 36 Shells were delivered to Syria. Could they all die in a couple of years under the blows of the Israeli air force

[Piramidon]

Quote: Santa Fe

Now, after the battle, the MO can write anything.

But, you must admit, I didn’t invent anything. Used data from official sources. Therefore, it is not necessary to ask questions with such sarcasm.

[Santa Fe]

Critical thinking is given to a person to analyze the situation from various sources, often contradictory

Statements that there were only 4 Shells from an interested group of persons (MO) do not cause any confidence

And you immediately categorically took it on faith

Закон Lawfulness of justice. And the official source does not mean that he is telling the truth. ”

[sivuch]

And Recep Erdogan is not an interested person? Or Turkish MO with its thousands of killed SA soldiers, hundreds of tanks and self-propelled guns? So it is not known who is more interested

[sivuch]

Of course. But the same source claims that most of the BM was in the Damascus region, which, in general, is logical. And the shell in its current form is not at all air defense

[sivuch]

How quickly set minus But it would be better if Mr. Minusovatel came out of the shadow about told what exactly seems to him wrong.

[sivuch]

If the Turks knocked out the shell, then these air defense systems and, in general, Syrian air defense, does not pose any danger to the United States.
-------------------------------------------
More than a controversial statement. The same shell could be damaged by shell fragments. But this does not mean that he is not able to bring down anything. What, in fact, happened in Syria and Libya (and not only)

[Shahno]

Strange differences, however. Cause only a smile. Definitely not 8 recoverable. . What, a bit too much or for this they remove the prizes ... It is not clear. The word of one MO against another.

[Sova]

Quote: Tonya

“They never lie as much as during the war, after the hunt, and before the election.”

forgot about fishing.

[Vadim isstomin]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1237728014936543233

[Santa Fe]

Defense Ministry denies Ankara's statement on the destruction of eight "Shell" in Syria

Since the Ministry of Defense has denied it, it means that it was so, the Turks destroyed several Armor

“Never believe the rumors - wait for the official refutation” (a joke of the Soviet period)

[Pup1]

They laughed ... we don’t have anything .... all the armor is destroyed .... everything is bad ........ a kick from the idlib and Libya ..... the Turks have no chance ...

[Alexey from Perm]

))) Oh, this is the Ministry of Defense of Russia, reminds the words of Bunsch from the movie Ivan Vasilyevich changes his profession: They didn't detain, they did not detain, I came to you myself !! ")))

[Tektor]

Well done! I would even applaud if it were a theater.

[sanik2020]

In the war everyone lies, how many destroyed so many show.