Amendments to the Constitution: for which all this was conceived


The State Duma today in the third (final) reading adopted the proposed amendments to the Constitution. We are talking about the same set of amendments and additions to the Basic Law of the country, which will be submitted to a universal vote on April 22.


Voting in the lower house turned out to be memorable: not to say that it was completely “in one fit”, but - judge for yourself: 383 lawmakers - “for”, “against” - nobody. 43 “thinkers” decided to abstain - they have such a “tough” position.

Meanwhile, in Runet mention of the word "Brezhnev" has become more frequent. Citizens felt some kind of frank feeling of deja vu - as if just recently, relatively recently, something similar to what was happening was already experienced, seen, already embodied - with known consequences. "Stay, dear father." "Who, if not you." "The people have the right to decide for themselves, but the people ask." If directed, so indefinitely. If there are conditions for a referendum, then it’s conditionally indefinite.

On the podium - an honored man, in a strict suit, in his years, with a gold star of the Hero of the Soviet Union, the space explorer. Well, does anyone argue with a statement and a rational proposal printed on paper and made by such a person? .. Well, does anyone dare to go against the idea of ​​a man who, in 1977, thanked the party, the Central Committee and personally Leonid Ilyich for the new Constitution , which "reflects concern for Soviet toilers."

Valentina Tereshkova 42 + years ago:

On the eve of the 60th anniversary of the Great October Revolution, referring to the draft Constitution, we, Soviet women, not only recognize our rights, but also clearly see our responsibilities as full members of socialist society. With new enthusiasm, we will work in the name of the prosperity of our great Motherland, actively participate in the implementation of the magnificent plans for building a communist society in our country.

On TV screens - no less wonderful and respected people. Conductors, directors, heads of Duma factions and others, others, others.

And everything, as in the recent recent reports about “zinger” pensioners (about 75-year-old grandfathers - fitness trainers, about 80 grandmothers, diving under water and / or parachuting), just as convincingly, they also clearly state ... We have, they say, stability now, but the enemy ... ENEMY! .. He does not sleep. We are supposedly at a difficult point in our stories, and all the other difficult points of this very story can not be compared with the current one - just what the coronavirus is ... Imperialists and exploiters are forcing to increase oil production and drop the ruble exchange rate. They strangle workers, peasants, pensioners and the intelligentsia with their vile sanctions. And there is only one way to counter this. Of course, the presidential terms are canceled, because the political and legal norm is as follows: amendments to the Constitution can and, of course, need to be interpreted solely as a new milestone, beyond which Russia and the entire Russian people will expect prosperity. Zeroing the presidential term - this is the number one amendment, something for which all this was conceived.

Until that moment, the Russian people were seriously discussing the proposed amendments to the Constitution, naively believing that all this was undertaken with the aim of improving the Basic Law: the ban on the rejection of territories, the emergence of the status of the Russian people as a state-forming one, family, children, motherhood, and the protection of pensioners. But from the transcendental heights, all the naive were quickly lowered to the sinful earth: all this is, is, is present, but is not at all a goal. The goal was set the day before - in the format of a meeting within the walls of the State Duma, where President Vladimir Putin personally arrived.

Vladimir Vladimirovich himself told those present that he personally, of course, was for developed democracy, for the succession of power. And then he reminded of the deservedness of Valentina Tereshkova ... And then - the main thing. From the series: we ourselves are, as it were, against, but if the Constitutional Court so decides, we will only have to submit.

And so that the picture was in full accordance with 1977, all had to get up and stormy, incessant applause, passing, of course, into a standing ovation, to meet this statement. But here the picture turned out to be somewhat crumpled, as stormy applause was not organized. The Presidium "slammed", part of the hall - too. Well, okay. The main thing is that the message has been sent: the guarantor of our Constitution as a whole agrees with the proposed amendments ... Well, how could one go against the Hero of the Soviet Union, the glorified first woman in space. So the president could not. - Everything is in the hands of the Constitutional Court, everything is in the hands of the people.

And if all this moves to what Valentina Vladimirovna insists on, having recently celebrated her 83rd birthday, then the question arises: are they familiar with the history of the Fatherland in the power structures? Well, not with the one that has been since 1999, but at least a year since 1981. Leapfrog, political crises, squabbles for power, undercover games, open intrigues that followed after March 1953 and after November 1982 - forgot? Have you forgotten what ultimately happened after 1985, when as a result of leapfrog and “premature” deaths Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev came to the post? The same one, because of which millions of people were divided by borders, and millions completely disappeared in the depths of perestroika and post-perestroika chaos.

Well, if you forgot, then it turns out that the country and people are once again preparing for transfer to a field with a rake for intense dancing in history.

Although on the other hand, there can be no fears for supreme power and stability in the country. Why? Yes, because everything is constitutional here ... and political elites may well make an additional amendment to the Constitution - for example, about the eternity of the head of state. And that is because on the eve of the Duma they already said that if the amendments are adopted, it "will allow Vladimir Putin to work quietly these 4 years, not thinking that there after 2024." Well, if the matter is trite in the peace of an individual person, then an amendment about eternity would raise the level of this peace to the beyond ... But this is the problem: human nature is not determined by the Constitution. It is not determined even by the most deserved of honored people - laureates, professors, heroes and drummers of labor.

If in such an amount of time the government was unable to build a system of changeability, if for all that the number of contests "Leader of the Year", "Presidential Reserve" is not at least any worthy person, in order not to transfer all the fullness of power at once, then at least to ask him a development vector, then just remember right again about the need to change something at the conservatory.

I frankly do not want to believe that the power system is going to go over to the well-known thesis that “there is at least a flood after us”. Just based on the fact that the ark being built may not be for everyone ... Bothov representatives of the truly correct electorate, and they won’t be taken, so don’t be zealous ... Although they may hope that by 2036 there will be a successor. Well, at worst, it will be possible to amend accordingly ...
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  1. Killemall 11 March 2020 12: 39 New
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    Tereshkova deflection counted ... hmmm ... sad
    1. Sklendarka 11 March 2020 12: 45 New
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      Folk words:
      -Valentina Tereshkova, for a space flight,
      presented by Nikita ... automatic ...
      These are the ditties the people sang under the old regime, but the people could not be mistaken ...
      1. rocket757 11 March 2020 12: 54 New
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        people did NOT SING, it’s different now - they invented childbirth.
        1. Sklendarka 11 March 2020 12: 58 New
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          So you did not live in those days ...
          1. rocket757 11 March 2020 13: 04 New
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            Lived and participated .... only such yu - then did not meet childbirth.
            People lived happily and joked with many things! But nobody would think of a joke over our SEAGUE !!!
            1. vladnp 11 March 2020 13: 11 New
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              Well, if you haven’t met, then it’s not been! Logics!
            2. Ka-52 11 March 2020 13: 23 New
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              People lived happily and joked with many things! But nobody would think of a joke over our SEAGUE !!!

              You do not prove anything to the generation of iPhone. They will have both a house and a mind and a conscience
              1. rocket757 11 March 2020 13: 30 New
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                Quote: Ka-52
                They will have both a house and a mind and a conscience

                Yes God is with them. It will come to all either insight or "a woman with a scythe" ... and not the fact that she will get to us faster!
                Although, of course, it’s not even easy to carry br \ E \ d, but to really express an insult to such honored, outstanding personalities ... there, at the top, they will notice and reward what they deserve!
                1. For example 11 March 2020 13: 43 New
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                  Now shit will be poured a lot.
                  Here Volodin claims that the most important thing in the amendments is Putin's next term.
                  Well, as is customary with the liberals, Volodin says from the whole people of Russia.
                  Until that moment, the Russian people were seriously discussing ...

                  And of course Volodin KNOWS THE ESSENCE !!!
                  But from the transcendental heights, all the naive were quickly lowered to the sinful earth: all this is, is, is present, but is not at all the goal ...

                  The people mean naive, but Volodin will now open his eyes to all. laughing
                  Only this is bullshit.

                  Fundamental constitutional changes. Unshakable borders. The supremacy of our laws over external ones. Marriage is a man and a woman (pederasts have no place in Russia). Supreme authority only to citizens of Russia, etc.

                  God bless Putin and many years of life. Only without Putin, Russia will live.
                  But without the strong power of Russia, the kerdyk will come.

                  So, comrade Volodin, agitate, do not agitate, but thank God in Russia most people are sane.
                  1. Volodin 11 March 2020 13: 49 New
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                    From the material - I repeat: "The bots (crossed out) of the representatives of the truly correct electorate, and they won’t be taken, so do not be zealous ..."
                    1. For example 11 March 2020 13: 56 New
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                      You gathered like-minded people around you. But thank God, you are a minority of our society. And only one of the minority groups.
                      You can’t even agree among themselves.
                      You have nothing to offer.

                      Most of your supporters gladly pour dirt on the government, but do not offer anything themselves.
                      You are looking for who and where stumbled and tear to pieces of those who have a different opinion.

                      In general, your site has turned into a yellow press with your efforts. hi
                      Still a line in the budget and life was a success. laughing good
                      1. Honest Citizen 11 March 2020 14: 01 New
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                        Most of your supporters gladly pour dirt on the government, but do not offer anything themselves.

                        Is EdRo ready to listen to the opposition?
                        Pity the bears in the Red Book.
                        You are the worst thing that was in the Communist Party
                      2. For example 11 March 2020 14: 39 New
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                        I have not been to the CPSU.
                        Thank God the Communists no longer rule in Russia.

                        We don’t even know each other, but you claim that I am “worse”.

                        You are a real COMMUNIST! wassat love
                      3. Honest Citizen 11 March 2020 14: 41 New
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                        Alas, I have grown only to the Komsomol.
                        But what I see from your posts is what I wrote.
                        And, please, do not confuse Communists with opportunists from the party.
                      4. Zefr 13 March 2020 10: 36 New
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                        You will agree there first, between each other. And some alone complain that everywhere only Komsomol leaders are sitting, then it suddenly turns out that the Communists no longer rule in Russia ...
                        Who is not a communist? Putin? Volodin? Usmanov? Who!
                        Oh yes. Usmanov is just a Komsomol member. I didn’t have time for the party, because I firmly sat down for fraud in Soviet times. Well, to hell with him. But Putin never made a statement that he quit the party. So why isn’t he a communist to you?
                  2. Leshy1975 11 March 2020 14: 25 New
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                    Quote: For example
                    You gathered like-minded people around you. But thank God, you are a minority of our society. And only one of the minority groups.
                    You can’t even agree among themselves.
                    You have nothing to offer.

                    Most of your supporters gladly pour dirt on the government, but do not offer anything themselves.
                    You are looking for who and where stumbled and tear to pieces of those who have a different opinion.

                    In general, your site has turned into a yellow press with your efforts. hi
                    Still a line in the budget and life was a success. laughing good

                    Maybe stop lying then? And here
                    Volodin says from all the people of Russia
                    , i.e. Volodin does not have the right to speak on behalf of the people. And you record in
                    you are a minority of our society
                    as I understand it, all the same, the people authorized, unlike Volodin. Did I understand correctly? And you, of course, have a paper with authority from the people, unlike Volodin, and therefore, who is the majority here, you decide for yourself, in accordance with the issued mandate. You personally, please show the mandate from the people.
                    And secondly, stop lying that we do not offer anything. We (many on the VO website) have long and consistently been offering - Ptina, resign! . Together with all his government. It's okay, while the government will sit in the rank of IO. Until a general re-election of both the president and the Duma takes place in the country.
                    Moreover, the re-election under the most severe control of public organizations, parties, movements, associations. Before re-election, one small amendment to the law should be adopted, namely, tougher responsibility for falsification of elections, equivalent to an attempt to seize power. Responsibility, well, I think about 20 years since the conclusion with the complete confiscation of property without the right to pardon and parole. And without any extenuating circumstances. It doesn’t matter who asked or ordered you - participated, in jail!
                    And after such an amendment, a year and a half later, general re-election. And during this time, let new candidates come forward, create new parties. Be sure to let them participate in televised debates, be sure (for both presidential candidates and parties) to have a country's development program. And we will look, listen, compare and then take a chat for those who seem most worthy to us.
                    We can’t immediately choose the best option, it’s okay, we will choose in the next election.

                    PS I really hope for your decency. And since you accused Volodin of the fact that his people did not authorize him to speak on his behalf. Then you, writing down the representatives of this very people (Volodin, me, other disagreeing with the authorities) in the minority, of course you can provide a mandate from the majority of the people. I really look forward to such a document in your name. Otherwise, I will be forced to consider you a liar and a falsifier.
                  3. For example 11 March 2020 14: 42 New
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                    Quote: Leshy1975
                    as I understand it, all the same, the people authorized, unlike Volodin.

                    No, not right.
                    Why do you need someone to understand?
                    This is not in your tradition.
                    You can only impose your opinion.
                    All enemies who disagree with you.

                    Voting showed that you are a minority.
                    People voted for Putin.

                    April 22, let's see where you and Volodin will be this time.
                  4. Leshy1975 11 March 2020 15: 19 New
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                    Quote: For example
                    Quote: Leshy1975
                    as I understand it, all the same, the people authorized, unlike Volodin.

                    No, not right.
                    Why do you need someone to understand?
                    This is not in your tradition.
                    You can only impose your opinion.
                    All enemies who disagree with you.

                    Voting showed that you are a minority.
                    People voted for Putin.

                    April 22, let's see where you and Volodin will be this time.

                    But now, of course, people voted for Putin. Even such a meme appeared, about 146%.
                    And they will again vote for Putin, and they will vote for Putin until there is a circle of "very skillful hands" instead of a normal election commission.
                    But that’s why President Putin’s rating dances so much:

                    Putin's current rating in Russia in 2020 (source novosti-online.info)
                    So, the sampling is carried out in three traditional areas, as well as in the internal survey on the site. Vladimir Putin's rating for today (that is, the percentage of people who approve of his activities):
                    FOM * VTsIOM Levada Center
                    Trust percentage 64% 30,6% 69%
                    Dynamics -1% + 0,8% + 1%
                    Date January February 1 March

                    Here two times !!!

                    Source zen.yandex.ru:
                    2019 ended with a record drop in Vladimir Putin's rating as a politician. What VTsIOM hid for a long time did happen in December 2019. Let me remind you the background of the question.
                    After the elections in March 2018, when Putin had a record high rating that allowed him to easily win his fourth election, Putin took a number of actions that the gullible people did not expect from him ...
                    Fucking people from such treachery, the people sharply reduced their confidence in Vladimir Putin as a politician. As a result, his rating fell sharply from 58% at the end of 2017 to 38% in June 2018. And it continued to fall throughout the next year, falling to 30,5% in May 2019. This could not alarm the Kremlin, which through the mouth of Peskov expressed bewilderment by this fact.

                    The pro-government VTsIOM immediately heard this and urgently came up with a new type of poll for Putin: instead of an open one, when people called the names of politicians themselves, he made a closed poll where people should choose from five suggested surnames. This type of survey immediately showed 72,3% of those who trust Putin. The Kremlin has quite arranged such a result for a while.

                    But in the summer, when there was a wave of protests against the backdrop of the Moscow elections, Putin's open poll rating fell sharply again approaching an important psychological line of 30%. VTsIOM, in order not to upset the Kremlin, stopped publishing this rating weekly and proceeded to publish generalized data for the month. This allowed again to mask from the Kremlin the growing disillusionment of the people in Putin.

                    But no matter how much the rope twists, the end will come. And in December, despite all the tricks of the VTsIOM, the rating of trust in Putin as a politician, nevertheless, overcame the level of 30%, reaching the figure of 29,8%:

                    And here more than TWO times !!!

                    PS What is the cunning rating of Mr. President Putin V.V. He doesn’t need to grow or fall at times, depending on what question and how he is asked. Well keep pulling owl rating on the globe.
                  5. flicker 12 March 2020 12: 47 New
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                    PS What is the cunning rating of Mr. President Putin V.V.
                    Yes, it will fill you.
                    If Putin had a "tricky rating", grant-eaters and grant-suckers would not raise such a howl, but would calmly win the election. The whole essence of howling and tantrums of grant-eaters, liberals, Bandera, "Israeli patriots" is that Putin cannot be defeated. So it is necessary to prevent him from participating in the elections, under any pretext: unconstitutional amendments, Tereshkova did not say that for too long in power, too many drug addicts in the country, etc.
                    The main thing is to prevent.
                    And what scares the West and grant-eaters in Putin’s presidency so much?
                    And the fact that he strengthened the army, and strengthened so that it could not be broken by military means.
                    It remains only to break Russia from the inside. To promote ala Zelensky as president (“there is emptiness and fog in the head”), but if Putin gets out, grant-eaters will not be able to untwist anyone in picnic.
                    So Volodya and Skomorokhov are trying.
                  6. alecsis69 14 March 2020 23: 34 New
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                    They have all come to terms with the fact that they will have to wait until the age of 24, but they thought - "we will tolerate, and there we will immediately hang, sorry, we will lustrate." And then bam, and still for 12 years it can drag on, you can not wait.
                  7. flicker 14 March 2020 23: 44 New
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                    Yes, their bummer is strong yes
            3. flicker 12 March 2020 12: 26 New
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              Voting showed that you are a minority.
              People voted for Putin.
              Plus your position with the help of comments, minuses to you from grant-eaters and "Israeli patriots".
          2. Vlad.by 11 March 2020 16: 05 New
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            And secondly, stop lying that we do not offer anything. We (many on the VO website) have long and consistently been offering - Putin, resign!


            You, apparently, except categorical criticism, are not capable of anything else.
            Yeah, right now, this is the moment to demand "... resignation ..." To ruin the structure of the executive branch in the country, and then everything else is a joy ...
            Shout out louder! I really hope you will be heard in the end.
            Yes, reward!
            Just curious, who replace the "stealing"? Where is the creative or just the anarchist “Down”?
            Will you drive the possessed Luka to the throne, or which of the "trusted" ones under the hexagonal banner?
          3. Leshy1975 11 March 2020 16: 57 New
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            Shout out louder! I really hope you will be heard in the end.
            Yes, reward!

            Well, well, surely it will be rewarded. If today's power is maintained, then of course it will tighten the nuts and others like me, try to press it "to the nail", and encourage people like you.
            And if today's power does not hold out, on the contrary - a change in the "elite", like me in power, and like you slime and close there will not be needed.
            Just curious, who replace the "stealing"? Where is the creative or just the anarchist “Down”?

            You are not a very attentive citizen. I have described in some detail how we will choose new candidates for power. Well, by the way, I also forgot that people like you, when they hear about the real elections and the call for Putin to resign, they immediately faint and do not remember what else was discussed. So I remind you. That in my comment it was about holding fair, competitive elections. As a result, the sought-after worthy candidates and real parties reflecting the interests of voters will appear.
            You, apparently, except categorical criticism, are not capable of anything else.

            And this is your personal opinion and it, in relation to me, can be anything. Like my personal about you. Therefore, who can do what, who, what and what will be rewarded, only time will show.

            PS recently, supporters of the government have too often begun to appeal for retribution (such in themselves, hidden threats), so as to slightly cool the ardor of such citizens. Let me remind you about one remarkable fact.
            When, at Moscow rallies, an employee hit the woman in the stomach with his fist (although she didn’t resist) and his face was closed, then despite the beater’s seemingly secrecy, his name appeared literally a few days later. So, my wonderful opponents, please do not forget that in the event of a change in power, your data and your "merits" will become as quickly known. Because people like you, in the case of a "sheer", immediately give in bulk. Someone for ideological reasons, and someone trying to shield himself. Is it a threat? No. Just the next time when you write this, especially for Kisa, remember that you too can be watched. Sometimes very carefully.
            Good luck, citizens opponents. hi
          4. Golovan Jack 11 March 2020 17: 03 New
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            when you write this, especially for Kisa, remember that you too can be watched

            Another bruised about Golovan request

            Man, you write, write. I'm not vindictive, just my memory is good yes
          5. mikh-korsakov 11 March 2020 21: 59 New
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            Goblin! All would be nothing. But the devil is in the details. You wrote "in my comment, it was about holding fair, competitive elections." Honest competitive ... as you imagine it. Candidates, even though they are angels in the flesh, must bring their program to the voters. With this, I hope agree? How to do it? Go to the square and broadcast! It went and was inefficient - the opponents would still beat. Using the media is much more efficient. But here's the drawback - you need a lot of money. Who will give? state? Private trader? But, although it looks cynical "who feeds a girl, he dances her." No matter how sweet snot lovers democracy lovers dissolve - this is true and still no one has denied this. Democratic elections are nothing more than a contest of purses and singers in a voice to fool voters. Democracy is nothing more than the power of a bunch of bastards over a crowd of donkeys, no matter how hypocritical lotions are used for bleaching. Therefore, attempts to improve are naive. For me, the power of the Politburo is much cheaper and more efficient. Our history confirms this. You write - the people will not cope. Is the price of the error too high. The Politburo, by the way, was also fired - oh, behind the scenes, the liberals will whine. Do you really need to tell everything to amateurs? Well, there are still options for social organization.
          6. Vlad.by 12 March 2020 09: 06 New
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            Chatterbox. There are many words, but information is zero. The usual liberal bullshit.
            So who in the place of Putin suggest? Call and everything will immediately become clear.
            And all the mantras about the fact that some abstract people will nominate a new leader who will immediately stop corruption, make friends with the West and at the same time preserve the sovereignty of Russia, and, most importantly, allow Leshim to live happily ever after high-profile words on the Maidan’s in favor of the poor.
          7. Leshy1975 12 March 2020 11: 10 New
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            Quote: Vlad.by
            Chatterbox. There are many words, but information is zero. The usual liberal bullshit.
            So who in the place of Putin suggest? Call and everything will immediately become clear.
            And all the mantras about the fact that some abstract people will nominate a new leader who will immediately stop corruption, make friends with the West and at the same time preserve the sovereignty of Russia, and, most importantly, allow Leshim to live happily ever after high-profile words on the Maidan’s in favor of the poor.

            I propose for the post of President Kandaurov George. So, what is next? You will now say that you do not know this. Well, how does your not knowing this person detract from his dignity? Well, I gave you specific information (name, surname of a person). Did it help you much? fool

            PS You, besides Putin, do not want to hear about anyone else, but there are a lot of worthy people around.
          8. flicker 12 March 2020 13: 51 New
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            I propose for the post of President Kandaurov George.
            So put forward and vote, who does not give you?
            May Putin defeat 2024.
            And do not groan "Putin do not go to the presidency", cling to the amendments, to Tereshkova, etc.
          9. andrew42 12 March 2020 15: 14 New
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            That's right, it's like that ... However, let me say that behind any "worthy candidate" (due to personal qualities, personal political capital) should be an organized political force. Unfortunately, today in the Russian political horizon there is no such force in the country that would like the prosperity of the people, and not a "state in the state". Putintsy cleared everything, the Communist Party put on a leash, and the so-called "grant-eaters and gratosos" left as an exhibit, for a lightning rod, so that there was someone to poke a finger, shouting "Atu them, atu!" Any attempt to create a new party of a socialist persuasion will be harshly suppressed, so that dispersal of the “grant-eaters” will seem like a spanker of a prankster for a stolen candy.
      2. flicker 12 March 2020 13: 41 New
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        when they hear about real elections and the call for Putin to resign, they immediately faint

        Are you confusing anything? People like you and the author of this opus are afraid of real choices. One of the conditions of a real election is the ability of the people to vote for their candidate. If most of the people want to vote for Putin, then who gave you and the author the right to deprive the people of this opportunity.
        Your right to vote (for example, for Svanidze) no one infringes. Nominate and vote. Defeat Putin if you can.
        No, you demand that Putin does not advance.
        Maybe you also have the key to the apartment where the money is?
    2. Scipio African 11 March 2020 17: 26 New
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      You, apparently, except categorical criticism, are not capable of anything else.

      Well, it's much easier to type stamps like stones and throw than to comprehend what is happening.
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      To ruin the structure of the executive branch in the country, and then everything else for joy ...

      But what kind of power structure is this that rests on one particular person? Like, replace it - and everything will sprinkle like a house of cards! And who just created such a structure? wassat
    4. flicker 12 March 2020 13: 57 New
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      But what kind of power structure is this that rests on one particular person? Like, replace it - and everything will sprinkle like a house of cards!

      But this structure on one specific person, allowed to save Russia. Be another system (parliamentary republic), Russia could no longer exist.
  2. AUL
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    And secondly, stop lying that we do not offer anything.

    The draft amendments include both truly standing and openly reactionary ones aimed at seizing power by one person (or group). Therefore, I propose:
    Demand from the government a vote on each amendment separately!
    Say it is unrealistic? Too many corrections to be added to the bulletin at once? So where are we in a hurry, let's break the amendment package into five groups and vote for each group separately, with a preliminary detailed discussion in the media for, say, six months or a year (for the whole process). Tea, do not go broke on this, we have a lot of money flew into the pipe and plundered, and nothing, hold on for now. So we can fork out for the new Constitution, which will determine the life of the power for many years to come!
  3. Leshy1975 11 March 2020 17: 57 New
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    Quote: AUL
    Quote: Leshy1975
    And secondly, stop lying that we do not offer anything.

    The draft amendments include both truly standing and openly reactionary ones aimed at seizing power by one person (or group). Therefore, I propose:
    Demand from the government a vote on each amendment separately!
    Say it is unrealistic? Too many corrections to be added to the bulletin at once? So where are we in a hurry, let's break the amendment package into five groups and vote for each group separately, with a preliminary detailed discussion in the media for, say, six months or a year (for the whole process). Tea, do not go broke on this, we have a lot of money flew into the pipe and plundered, and nothing, hold on for now. So we can fork out for the new Constitution, which will determine the life of the power for many years to come!

    I personally, with your proposal, agree completely. But you see what is happening with these amendments and for the sake of what all this urgent "fire" was arranged. If individually for each and Putin as a result will not be able to remain in power further, then the authorities do not need all the other amendments in FIG. You understand this very well without me. hi
    The question for the authorities is an edge: or Putin’s further rule is being dragged into the guise by spitting on the law. Or the second option. However, the remaining options will also include the same method: spitting on the law.

    PS Well, Putin has no other option to stay in power and beyond, except by spitting on the law.
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    But thank God, you are a minority of our society.
    Judging by the cons, it is laughing
  • rocket757 11 March 2020 14: 07 New
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    From the material - I repeat: "The bots (crossed out) of the representatives of the truly correct electorate, and they won’t be taken, so do not be zealous ..."

    In general, it does not matter from which edge overstepped the edge. Nothing good can come of it ... spit it out again !!! So the country does not raise, and lose, in the end you can.
    A simple question to be answered ... and no matter what specific points of disagreement, now. YES or NO, everything ... one can only hope that they will calculate the garlic ... hope boom.
  • Po-tzan 11 March 2020 15: 19 New
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    Quote: Volodin
    From the material - I repeat: "The bots (crossed out) of the representatives of the truly correct electorate, and they won’t be taken, so do not be zealous ..."


    They are there in the Lakhta Center just by all means trying to earn two packs of doshirak, instead of one, do not judge them strictly.
  • Honest Citizen 11 March 2020 13: 50 New
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    Fundamental constitutional changes. Unshakable borders. The supremacy of our laws over external ones. Marriage is a man and a woman (pederasts have no place in Russia).

    but thank God in Russia most people are sane.

    Well, tell me, why should a sober person SUCH amendments? Those. the inviolability of borders MUST be spelled out in the basic law of the country? What would not be the desire to give "Kemsk parish"?
    Marriage is a man and a woman. Those. if this provision is not prescribed, then what? Sane people just understand that marriage, family - this is the union of a man and a woman.
    How do you write there?
    Constitutional changes are fundamental.

    What is fundamental? I personally do not see.
    But they didn’t make an amendment to dual citizenship and real estate abroad.
    Fundamentally!
    Well, you drown for Putin, drown further. Only when you, as his fan, are asked questions about the results of your idol’s activities, you don’t crawl from the topic like demagogues. And then you require specifics from all, and how to answer yourself - so in the bushes immediately.
    1. Golovan Jack 11 March 2020 14: 49 New
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      Quote: Honest Citizen
      But on dual citizenship and real estate abroad - no amendment

      Left uncrossed - lies yes

      Quote: Honest Citizen
      sane just understand that marriage, family - is the union of a man and a woman

      Well, for example, to prevent this from happening - it’s not a sin to write in the Constitution about a man and a woman ...

      1. Honest Citizen 11 March 2020 14: 52 New
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        It was necessary to finish for civil servants and their family members? laughing
        Well, for example, to prevent this from happening - it’s not a sin to write in the Constitution about a man and a woman ...

        Our church is separate from the state, isn't it?
      2. Golovan Jack 11 March 2020 15: 02 New
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        Quote: Honest Citizen
        It was necessary to finish for civil servants and members of their families?

        Essentially. You need to write exactly what you want to say, otherwise it comes out clumsily.

        Quote: Honest Citizen
        Our church is separate from the state, isn't it?

        This does not give her the right to violate the Constitution, no? wink

        You’re better about giving VAT compensation to oil industry workers, it’s funnier for you laughing
      3. Honest Citizen 11 March 2020 15: 07 New
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        This does not give her the right to violate the Constitution, no?

        I did NOT read the constitution of Scotland.
        I did NOT read the UK Constitution
        Moreover, I didn’t even read the family codes of Scotland and Great Britain, I didn’t read the laws regarding family and marriage and homosexuality.
        Are you sure the Church of Scotland has broken something?
        I can’t say that. I can only express my attitude to this issue.
        As for the return of VAT and other oil industry. Since you dragged her here. I personally heard such a scheme from a person who works in Slavneft. I have no reason not to believe him.
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        Quote: Honest Citizen
        I did NOT read the constitution of Scotland.
        I did NOT read the UK Constitution
        Moreover, I didn’t even read the family codes of Scotland and the UK, I didn’t read the laws regarding family and marriage and homosexuality

        This is not my sadness, this is your sadness.

        Quote: Honest Citizen
        Are you sure the Church of Scotland has broken something?

        On the contrary, I’m sure that she didn't break anything.

        But I’m sure that if the Constitution of the Russian Federation is written “family as a union of man and woman,” then no one will ever allow what the Scottish Church allowed. Argue.

        By the way, you are again trying to replace the question. Symptomatically wink

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        I personally heard such a scheme from a person who works in Slavneft. I have no reason not to believe him

        You probably did not understand what you heard. Judging by my experience with you, this is typical of you yes
      5. Honest Citizen 11 March 2020 15: 27 New
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        This is not my sadness, this is your sadness.

        Maybe. But I am not interested in studying the constitutions of those countries where I am not even going to go as a tourist.
        I'm sure she didn’t break anything.

        Those. Have you read at least the Scottish Family Code?
        But I’m sure that if the Constitution of the Russian Federation is written “family as a union of man and woman,” then no one will ever allow what the Scottish Church allowed.

        Those. Do you suspect that if you do not prescribe in the Constitution of the Russian Federation “a family as a union of a man and a woman”, then the tolerast who came to power will allow same-sex marriage? I'm not even funny. Or do you stick to the wording: what is not prohibited is allowed?

        You probably did not understand what you heard.

        You probably need to articulate your thoughts more clearly.
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        Quote: Honest Citizen
        Or do you stick to the wording: what is not prohibited is allowed?

        Exactly.

        Quote: Honest Citizen
        You probably need to articulate your thoughts more clearly.

        Then it’s not for me, but for your acquaintance from Slavneft - these are his words you so godlessly misinterpreted.
  • For example 11 March 2020 14: 52 New
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    Well, tell me, why should a sober person SUCH amendments?

    The communists divided the country into parts.
    It has been twice in the last hundred years.
    First, the Communists ruined our country, the Russian Empire. Having created on the fragments the Union of Republics on a national basis.
    Then this Union of greedy communists was divided exactly by republic.
    Each Communist leader was given a "country."

    The Communists are not all extinct. This site is full of them.
    So, an article on the inviolability of borders is necessary.

    The buggers strive to ruin the centuries-old way of life of our families.
    Media races show pedrasts and their contests. For example, Eurovision.
    For insulting buggers sites banyat. What was more than once on this site.
    So, an article saying that in Russia a family is a man and a woman is necessary.

    People with dual citizenship will be expelled from power.
    So the Khodorkovsky and other offended remain out of work.
    The maximum will be able to manage the area, but according to new amendments to the constitution strictly under the supervision of higher-ranking comrades.
    In other words, the end of rampant democracy. good

    And only the lazy did not write about the supremacy of international law over Russian.
    Here the majority shouted that this should be done away with.
    But as it came to pass, so on this site, many became in a pose.
    Here you are against.

    So that I will vote for the amendments.
    1. Honest Citizen 11 March 2020 14: 57 New
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      The buggers strive to ruin the centuries-old way of life of our families.
      Media races show pedrasts and their contests. For example, Eurovision.
      For insulting buggers sites banyat. What was more than once on this site.
      So, an article saying that in Russia a family is a man and a woman is necessary.

      WHO prevented Putin from putting things in order on TV all 20 years?
      People with dual citizenship will be expelled from power.
      So the Khodorkovsky and other offended remain out of work.

      Dmitry Kozak has a residence permit (residence permit) in Switzerland.
      Olga Golodets has a residence permit in Italy. Minister of Industry and Trade Denis Manturov has permanent residence in Spain.
      The Minister of Labor and Social Protection Maxim Topilin has a residence permit in Bulgaria.
      Deputy Minister of Industry and Trade George Kalamanov has a residence permit in the UK.
      The deputy minister of economic development, an Azerbaijani Talybov, has a residence permit in France.
      Deputy Minister of Finance Alexey Lavrov has permanent residence in Italy.
      Murad Kerimov, Deputy Minister of Natural Resources and Ecology, has permanent residence in France and Cyprus residence permit.
      Deputy Minister of Culture Nikolay Ovsienko has a residence permit in Bulgaria.
      Governors:
      Andrey Vorobyov Governor of the Moscow Region has a residence permit in Spain and Israel
      . Alexander Uss Governor of the Krasnoyarsk Territory has a residence permit in Germany.
      Stanislav Voskresensky governor of the Ivanovo region has a US green card.
      Boris Dubrovsky, ex-governor of the Chelyabinsk region has a residence permit in Switzerland.
      Maxim Liksutov, vice-mayor of Moscow, head of the Department of Transport has Cyprus citizenship.
      Members of the Federation Council:
      Valery Ponomarev has British citizenship.
      Boris Nevzorov holds the citizenship of Cyprus.
      Andrey Klishas has permanent residence in Switzerland.
      Arsen Kanokov has a UK residence permit.
      Elena Mizulina has a residence permit in Belgium.
      Alexander Babakov has British citizenship. Suleiman Kerimov has permanent residence in France.
      Deputies of the State Duma:
      Alexander Zhukov - Residence Permit of Great Britain.
      Andrey Golushko - residence permit in France.
      Grigory Anikeev - Spanish citizenship.
      Ayrat Khayrullin - permanent residence in Spain.
      Leonid Simanovsky - citizenship of Israel and permanent residence of Cyprus.
      Rizvan Kurbanov - permanent residence of Turkey.
      Mikhail Schapov - Residence Permit for Spain.
      Alexander Kravets - permanent residence of Montenegro.
      Grigory Balykhin - permanent residence in Montenegro.
      Elena Bondarenko - residence permit in Italy.
      Igor Lebedev - US Green Card.
      Vyacheslav Nikonov - US citizenship.
      Alexander Remezkov - US Green Card.
      Nikolai Bortsov - British citizenship.
      Otari Arshba - Georgian citizenship.

      Will these be kicked out too?
    2. demo 11 March 2020 21: 19 New
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      Are they abandoned to us? Or from us?
      Posh list.
      Where is he from?
    3. Honest Citizen 11 March 2020 21: 26 New
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      This is a compilation list. Infa for a particular character surfaced for more than one year and from various sources, including foreign ones.
    4. frog 12 March 2020 17: 10 New
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      Something I do not see the angry reaction and furious exposure of the advocates of RussiaNext? Forces are going?))
  • Mordvin 3 11 March 2020 15: 16 New
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    Quote: For example
    First, the Communists ruined our country, the Russian Empire.

    Bullshit.
    Quote: For example
    Media races show pedrasts and their contests. For example, Eurovision.

    Are federal channels showing them?
    And dubious personalities like Baskov, Kirkorov, and the like, didn’t get out of there a couple of years ago.
    Quote: For example
    People with dual citizenship will be expelled from power.

    The cousin refused to go to the garden ...
    Quote: For example
    And only the lazy did not write about the supremacy of international law over Russian.

    And what will it give? As the assets of the Russian Federation were arrested at the request of the Noga company twenty years ago, they will continue to be arrested.
  • victor50 12 March 2020 08: 43 New
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    And dubious personalities like Baskov, Kirkorov, and the like, didn’t get out of there a couple of years ago.

    And also with state awards, both request
  • Alex_59 11 March 2020 15: 57 New
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    Quote: For example
    So, an article on the inviolability of borders is necessary.

    30 years without this article they lived in the constitution and even returned Crimea to themselves. And now, suddenly, without this amendment, we are in danger.
    Quote: For example
    The communists divided the country into parts.

    Then the more you need to change Putin. He has been a member of the CPSU since the 70s. He is a communist.
  • Kronos 11 March 2020 17: 10 New
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    An article with such a meaning is already there, and by the way, its presence or absence will not hinder to share everything if there is a desire
  • maidan.izrailovich 11 March 2020 16: 03 New
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    First, the Communists ruined our country, the Russian Empire.

    It is not true.
    The Russian Empire rested in Bose in February 1917. And it was not the Communists who did this.
    And about the section. It is known that the Provisional Government conducted secret negotiations with the British. And there, promises were made both in Poland and in Finland. About their separation. Moreover, even in Ukraine, the question was raised at these negotiations. And for her, the British also demanded independence. The interim government was still that gadyushnik. Just do not have time. The Communists took power from them.
  • Diana Ilyina 11 March 2020 16: 26 New
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    maidan.izrailovich (Maidan Izrailovich)
    The Communists took power from them.
    Everything is true, with the exception of a small correction, it was not the Communists who took power away, but still, probably, the Bolsheviks. And although the name of the CPSU (b) was the word communist, all the same at that historical moment they were precisely the Bolsheviks.
    Sorry if that! hi
  • victor50 12 March 2020 08: 45 New
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    Quote: Diana Ilyina
    VKP (b)

    RCP (b)
  • victor50 12 March 2020 08: 39 New
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    Then this Union of greedy communists was divided exactly by republic.
    Each Communist leader was given a "country."

    The Communists are not all extinct.

    Are you talking about the president of the Russian Federation ?! lol Somehow careless! With your convictions! lol
  • Po-tzan 11 March 2020 15: 26 New
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    [quote = Honest Citizen]
    Well, tell me, why should a sober person SUCH amendments? Those. the inviolability of borders MUST be spelled out in the basic law of the country? What would not be the desire to give "Kemsk parish"? [/ quote]

    And in the new constitution, will it be forbidden to sell three Crimea in Siberia for felling the Chinese?

    [quote = Honest Citizen]
    Marriage is a man and a woman. Those. if this provision is not prescribed, then what? Sane people just understand that marriage, family - this is the union of a man and a woman.
    How do you write there?
    [Quote]

    Sofa patriots from edra are obviously not so strong in their orientation that the only thing that stops them from marrying men is special laws and amendments to the constitution. For example, I did not need a constitution to marry women. I, I guess, too. And only the CONSTITUTION holds them, so as not to turn into a Moses battle.
    1. Mordvin 3 11 March 2020 15: 43 New
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      the only thing that stops them from marrying men is special laws and amendments to the constitution.

      I'm already confused. If there is an amendment about God (I don’t understand what, in general, and who is God, maybe Great Shiva?), Then the marriage between the pederasts is automatically denied, and all there, such as in the USA, one lady married a dog, which is a millionaire He left his condition. Why then amendments about buggers? Um ... There are Satan churches in the USA. God too, however. Who should believe in the constitution? And in general, in the USSR, the term for winemaking was wound. And here it’s kind of tolerant, they can’t put a stamp in their passport ...
    2. Diana Ilyina 11 March 2020 16: 32 New
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      PO-tzan (Andrey)
      For example, I didn’t need a constitution to women log off.
      Excuse me for God's sake, but you can’t. No, as a matter of fact the comment is all right, but let's respect the Russian language.
      It will not be right "woman", but a woman, this is first. And secondly, women get married, men still probably get married! At least that was until today.
      Do not take for offense or insult, but still, let's respect our language, great and mighty!
    3. demo 11 March 2020 21: 22 New
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      For example, I did not need a constitution to marry women
      You got so excited that you made a mistake.
      For women do not "marry, they are taken.
      This is for men to marry. hi
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      For example, I did not need a constitution to marry women. I, I guess, too.

      I apologize, women get married, and men get married. What is this little thing?
  • Revival 11 March 2020 14: 56 New
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    Yeah, the pressure is on.
    Your tear stingy did not slide down the cheek in emotion?
  • Uran53 11 March 2020 15: 38 New
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    Stalin Joseph Vissarionovich is missing all of you! This same Tereshkova, according to the disclosure of Navalny, has dual citizenship (also FSA). And for some reason, believe it. And such "patriots" in Dura are in the majority.
  • Scipio African 11 March 2020 17: 21 New
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    Alas, you won’t hear how it’s in the movie "Let's Live Until Monday"
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    Fools stayed in fools
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    seeing a speck on the tablecloth - they did not see the elephant
  • protoss 11 March 2020 17: 46 New
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    buggers no place

    and what do you actually have against homosexuals? Our homeland, by the way, supports them internationally.

    laughing
    1. Po-tzan 12 March 2020 11: 11 New
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      and what do you actually have against homosexuals? Our homeland, by the way, supports them internationally.


      Suheil converted to Orthodoxy, recently, so he is ours, the right homosexual - not a couple of soulless western homosexuals from a rotting geyropka.
  • rotkiv04 11 March 2020 20: 31 New
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    You forgot to sing “God Save the Tsar”, Putin is certainly worthy of respect, but his main duty in 20 years was to prepare a worthy successor and to step back from power in time, and now, as Brezhnev, he will be taken out of the Kremlin on a gun carriage.
    1. demo 11 March 2020 21: 24 New
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      Could it be better to put ashes from the Tsar Cannon?
      And a new tradition to appear.
  • Machito 11 March 2020 13: 35 New
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    The seagull is a well-deserved woman. Isn’t it time for Chaika to retire, to retire? Deputy Tereshkova said: "Well, you are legally competent to formalize all this." laughing Actually, she is a lawmaker, not versed in jurisprudence. Eighty-year-old honored, respected by all, Chaika publicly admitted that she did not understand a damn thing in the laws. And then, according to her laws, we will live. Maybe she’d better help journalist Rogozin compose fantastic stories about how the ships of the Russian Space Agency plow the Bolshoi Theater?
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      Quote: Bearded
      And then, according to her laws, we should live.

      While we are just going to grumble in social networks, we will live by that ... then by everything that they prescribe to us.
      What is the conclusion? What should be done already the day before yesterday and not too late to do even tomorrow ???
    2. frog 12 March 2020 17: 23 New
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      Pointing, and not at all eighty-year-old Isinbayeva admitted that she opened the Costitition only because of this hype. And I learned about how many interesting things there .... Long ago, being a deputy ..... And how many of them ??
  • depressant 11 March 2020 13: 28 New
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    Tereshkova proposed, after the amendments to the Constitution came into force, to supplement article 81 of the fundamental law with part 3.1. The meaning of the Tereshkova amendment comes down to the fact that after the amendment enters into force, everything starts from scratch. No matter how long Putin rules, he can now run for president again. So this is not enough! She proposed not to limit the number of presidential terms at all. I’m thinking who will survive whom: I am Putin or he is me. This is not the same uniformity and not the stability that we would like.
    1. Honest Citizen 11 March 2020 13: 40 New
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      This is not the same uniformity and not the stability that we would like.

      You know, those who "drown" for Putin, they really do not ask a question, but what will happen after. When Putin is gone, and yet he is not getting younger.
      I believe his era will end in such enormous blood, against which the Civil War will seem like childish prank.
      1. For example 11 March 2020 13: 50 New
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        Quote: Honest Citizen
        You know, those who "drown" for Putin, they really do not ask a question, but what will happen after. When Putin is gone, and yet he is not getting younger.


        That is why amendments are being adopted. Everyone understands that life will not end with the end of the term of the president.

        Need to live on. Only live according to OUR laws. According to the Russian foundations of society.

        That the next president would not squander the country as the communists did.

        That foreigners and pederasts would not manage a society.

        But the "honest citizen" is more fun under the laws adopted by Yeltsin to live.
        1. Honest Citizen 11 March 2020 13: 56 New
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          That foreigners and pederasts would not manage a society.

          Are you talking about the government (part of it) and EdRo? Well then, yes, you have to accept.
          But the "honest citizen" is more fun under the laws adopted by Yeltsin to live.

          And who told you that? I want that there would be no batch voting on amendments. I want to make an article on the inadmissibility of dual citizenship to both officials themselves and their families, about the inadmissibility of real estate and business among officials. Where are these amendments?
          That the next president would not squander the country as the communists did.

          I beg of you. Gorbi, Yeltsin, Kravchuk and Shushkevich are not communists, they are sticky opportunists.
          By the way, who gave the island of Chinas and part of the sea to the Norwegians? Also communists?
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            they are not communists, they are adherents-opportunists.

            I do not understand this contrast.
        2. Revival 11 March 2020 15: 00 New
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          Oh how you attached. Not afraid, everything is open.
          Boldly
        3. dirk182 11 March 2020 18: 36 New
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          I didn’t read more rubbish on military review. Personally, I am against all these obscure amendments. And Putin’s policy is disgusting to me, as well as to my environment. During his reign, we quarreled with many countries. Pseudo propagandists appear on the TV screen, and youngsters are fanatical from AUE. Putin for me personally is the personification of evil. And for Putin too. These are people who lead the country to collapse and lead.
        4. victor50 12 March 2020 08: 59 New
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          Quote: For example
          But the "honest citizen" is more fun under the laws adopted by Yeltsin to live.

          And the President, in order to understand by whose laws he lives, it took only 20 years !? laughing Well, we won’t forget about the Yeltsin Center. You can loudly admire the courage, decisiveness, patriotism of our president until you start asking questions that people like you try to avoid: about the Yeltsin Center, about Chubais, about Gorbachev’s awards (which here is no other than a traitor dignify), reverential attitude to the memory of Yeltsin, Sobchak and many, many others. However, patriotism and concern for the people immediately disappear request
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          call yourself an ambulance. We got tired of writing the same thing every day.
      2. Uncle lee 11 March 2020 14: 13 New
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        Zeroing the presidential term - this is the number one amendment, something for which all this was conceived.
        And a vote for these amendments will be an automatic vote for the next 12-year presidency of GDP
      3. Octopus 11 March 2020 15: 48 New
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        I believe his era will end in such enormous blood, against which the Civil War will seem like childish prank.

        Mr. Volodin (not the author of the article, but the current speaker of the Duma) clearly said 6 years ago:
        There is Putin - there is Russia, there is no Putin - there is no Russia

        Of course, options are possible. In particular, there is no Mugabe - but there is Zimbabwe, and vice versa, there is no Syria - Assad is. But the basic version has been voiced for a long time and clearly. He who does not understand will understand.
      4. mark2 11 March 2020 18: 08 New
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        . You know, those who "drown" for Putin, they really do not ask a question, but what will happen after. When Putin is gone, and yet he is not getting younger.


        And who in general thinks of something, except for the small-town problems of their own.
        Some do not think about the future, others do not think about the present. All stand each other. The country of frightened id ...
      5. andrew42 12 March 2020 15: 24 New
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        So this is precisely what prompts the entire government-Durov bourgeois viper to tremble with the "amendments." The thought of Putin leaving as a "roof" scares them and makes them nervous.
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      Quote: depressant
      This is not the same uniformity and not the stability that we would like.

      I don’t like it at all and when the time comes, I’ll subscribe for that.
      But to insult a well-deserved person ... it should receive an appropriate assessment.
      I do not agree, your right, subscribe ....
    3. Machito 11 March 2020 13: 52 New
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      Tereshkova will outlive you too. Read her speech before the adoption of the Constitution in 1977. She is always for the king, even if the king is Hitler.
  • Yegorchik 11 March 2020 17: 37 New
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    But nobody would think of a joke over our SEAGUE !!!
    Come on, tell tales, a famous ditty, and I heard it more than once. And as for “OUR SEAGUE”, you know Vlasov was also a Soviet general, and as he was crap, he was hanged and did not look at past merits.
  • antivirus 11 March 2020 14: 22 New
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    "everything is written correctly in the article"
    it is ridiculous to recall with a serious face 90-95gg the peak of democracy.
    eabyl add - another spoon in the bottomless barrel of power of Russia.
    and the United States aircraft carriers put in storage?
    what to do with the "7 pieces" of the leaders of "atomic RF should build"
  • Ingvar 72 11 March 2020 13: 39 New
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    Now it’s different. They invented childbirth.

    But as time showed, they were right. bully
    1. rocket757 11 March 2020 13: 51 New
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      That we .... turned out NOT RIGHT! and uh - childbirth can’t be right as all people should have in the skull box ..
  • for
    for 11 March 2020 15: 17 New
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    Quote: rocket757
    -Valentina Tereshkova, for a space flight,
    presented by Nikita ... automatic ...

    Tereshkova for a trick
    Putin thanked
    to her Khrushchev's gift
    basement batteries!
    1. Yegorchik 11 March 2020 17: 05 New
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      Quote: for

      Tereshkova for a trick
      Putin thanked
      to her Khrushchev's gift
      basement batteries!

      good A great continuation to the old ditty.
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      Thank you !!!, May the Russian Land not be impoverished with talents ....
  • demo 11 March 2020 21: 11 New
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    I heard these verses in the mid-70s.
    And do not argue with the elders.
  • NordUral 12 March 2020 00: 24 New
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    Sang, Victor, as he sang, he heard.
  • BUM10 12 March 2020 12: 46 New
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    And here's how he sang and danced.
  • ccsr 11 March 2020 19: 53 New
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    Quote: Skalendarka
    -Valentina Tereshkova, for a space flight,
    presented by Nikita ... automatic ...

    Actually, the ditty was a little different, as I recall:
    "Valentina Tereshkova married Khrushchev
    I looked below the belly - there hung corn "
  • boriz 12 March 2020 23: 40 New
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    A little out of rhyme.
    Sang: "gave Khrushchev Nikita ..."
  • Po-tzan 11 March 2020 15: 14 New
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    Tereshkova deflection counted ... hmmm ... sad

    One irreplaceable president has died. God bless him:
    “To Paradise, but through Purgatory.” There, the devils will capitalize you as many times as you were president.
    The President was delighted: for Paradise six times - not a lot.
    They brought him to hell, looks - there Tereshkova. Asks:
    “But why?”
    Damn him:
    - And she will nullify the bill.
  • Campanella 12 March 2020 00: 01 New
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    This is not a deflection, Valya read out what her comrades told her from above.
    Alas, past merits do not make a person better. Apparently, she did not like Soviet power and did not want to fly, but her comrades forced her to.
    In her heart, Valya dreamed of a full board of deputy goods in capitalist Russia.
    Yes .... I do not want to get dirty anymore.
  • vik669 12 March 2020 22: 15 New
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    Yes, licked on the tonsils!
  • Dimy4 11 March 2020 12: 41 New
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    By the end of the term it will be like Gogol’s - “lift up my eyelids”.
    1. Livonetc 11 March 2020 12: 56 New
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      Who knows what he will be.
      It is not important.
      The main thing is not the principle of change of power.
      By the way, China introduced amendments to the constitution in 2018, removing the two-term limit for the chairman of the PRC.
      And it will be so we still remember (and now it is so in principle)
      Applause!
      Stormy applause!
      Applause passing into a standing ovation!
      Stormy prolonged standing ovation!
      1. hhhhhhh 11 March 2020 12: 58 New
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        Better as in Ukraine, the amount does not change from a change in terms of terms.
      2. Chervonny 11 March 2020 12: 59 New
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        Quote: Livonetc
        The main thing is not the principle of change of power.

        And most likely it will not.
        The stagnation at its worst was back.
      3. kjhg 11 March 2020 13: 16 New
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        Quote: Livonetc
        The main thing is not the principle of change of power.

        It is unfortunate that Putin frankly did not give a damn about the fate of the country for the sake of the most base personal interests. At all times, when such irresponsible leaders came to power, after them the country was in for shock and confusion. A smooth transfer of power is unlikely to succeed. Now I’m not even sure that he will be able to sit after 2024. Most likely, bloodshed awaits us at this time. Putin’s irresponsible, arrogant, hypocritical and disgusting act
      4. mikh-korsakov 11 March 2020 13: 37 New
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        Emotions, emotions. Until yesterday, I personally was not sure that I would go to vote for the amendments. I have been living for a long time and in my lifetime I lived under the Stalinist, Brezhnev and Yeltsin constitution. In principle, everything is written beautifully, although few have read it, but it is of little use for everyday life, the rules of behavior in the subway are much more important for the majority of the public. Like a dog no-no. But after yesterday I’ll definitely come and vote against the amendments. Why. Because if the amendments fail, it will be a fair retribution to Putin - so as not to lie, to dodge, not to fail the economy - as much as possible. Tired of it! In this case, Putin will lose the remnants of authority within the government, although even now they are not very obedient to him. Therefore, firstly, if the amendments fail - no nullifications - this is not in the current constitution. But most likely then, according to Yeltsin’s model, “peasants” will happen, because there is no way to rule. And Mishustin will become our president before the election, but we'll see.
        1. Borisych1973 11 March 2020 14: 09 New
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          Because if the amendments fail

          Do not fail. The script is written, roles are distributed, execution mechanisms are available. I apologize for the pessimism.
          1. Honest Citizen 11 March 2020 14: 30 New
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            Yes, this, unfortunately, is not pessimism, this is realism.
            146% no one forgot.
            1. lis-ik 11 March 2020 15: 46 New
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              It's time to predict the percentage of approvals that will be drawn. I assume that it will be modestly, but convincingly, about 67-75 percent.
              1. Honest Citizen 11 March 2020 15: 50 New
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                I believe that if they come and vote against, they will draw 55 percent plus minus one / two, but still the majority.
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            Forgot to add: "For work, comrades!"
      5. Machito 11 March 2020 13: 39 New
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        This is not stability, it is stagnant.
      6. depressant 11 March 2020 13: 59 New
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        Is it really a matter of a change of power? Once I said this and can only repeat it. Under Putin, how do we live? First, by stripping the population, the National Welfare Fund is accumulated - on a rainy day (crisis). And now the rainy day has come, the Fund is being spent on urgent needs, while the number of billionaires is mysteriously increasing. Then the NWF is again started to be stacked, stripping the accumulating fat from the population at random, and so on. All repeats. But there is no development and no. We have stagnation - according to Siluanov. Well, like this...
      7. mark2 11 March 2020 18: 14 New
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        Permanent power? Do not hurry. Where is she at all?
        Presidents are changing power is not. There is only one power. This is money. And the one who has more of them has power.
        Look at the swamp that our partners have. There have already been so many Obama trumps of bush and clintons, but there are no reforms aimed at improving the quality of life. But all came to power with reformist ideas.
    2. Bashkirkhan 11 March 2020 13: 01 New
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      In Zimbabwe, President Robert Mugabe ruled from 1987 to 2017 until reaching 93 years old. In July 2017, the 93-year-old head of state, speaking to his supporters, announced that he was not going to leave his post and die. Mugabe explained that he did not know who could replace him.
      1. balunn 11 March 2020 13: 21 New
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        here in Zimbabwe and equals laughing
        1. Octopus 11 March 2020 15: 53 New
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          Mugabe explained that he did not know who could replace him.

          You see. His comrades in the party and government on tanks recently visited his friend Mugabe and explained who could replace him.
  • Sahalinets 11 March 2020 12: 43 New
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    The country has built a completely corrupt power vertical and Putin is its guarantor. So we guys shout under his heel until 2036.
    1. Military77 11 March 2020 17: 56 New
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      The vertical of power is the count on which people are pulled!
  • Kote Pan Kokhanka 11 March 2020 12: 45 New
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    I will be rude!
    Two points that I personally will not accept in the new edition of the Constitution:
    - it is voiced above;
    - and an article about God.
    It would not be bad to organize a referendum with the adoption of the project item by article! I think it will be, fairer.
    Regards, Kote!
    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk 11 March 2020 12: 54 New
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      What's the difference? Although all 100% vote against, all the same, election commissions will give 70% for
      1. Machito 11 March 2020 13: 41 New
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        146% The first and last fair elections were in 1993, and now this is a staged show.
      2. Ingvar 72 11 March 2020 13: 45 New
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        Andrey, will you go to the vote yourself? I will go and recommend it to everyone.
        1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk 11 March 2020 14: 07 New
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          Of course I’ll go. It’s necessary to go, otherwise my vote from Chelyabinsk will vote where the thread is in Transbaikalia, where I supposedly was on a business trip ....
          1. Octopus 11 March 2020 15: 56 New
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            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            Must go

            Yes, many people talk about it. Say, you need to come and cheat on Ella, stop her from throwing your ballot into the ballot box.

            But this is nonsense, people got stuck in the 90s. Ella does not throw ballots. Ella writes immediately the final protocol as she needs.
            1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk 11 March 2020 16: 53 New
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              Well, at least by voting, I will make all the legal means available to me to counter this lawlessness. But I’m not ready for illegal, and I’m unlikely to be. Unlike our president, for me the law is not an empty phrase
      3. Alex_59 11 March 2020 16: 02 New
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        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        What's the difference? Although all 100% vote against, all the same, election commissions will give 70% for

        Not to go too is not an option. It is necessary to use all legal ways to express your attitude to this lawlessness.
  • New Year day 11 March 2020 12: 48 New
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    Leapfrog, political crises, squabbles for power, undercover games, open intrigues that followed after March 1953 and after November 1982 - forgot? Have you forgotten what ultimately happened after 1985, when as a result of leapfrogs and “premature” deaths Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev came to the post?

    this is exactly what will be. There is no doubt that the so-called elite is a ball of snakes and crocodiles, ready to gobble up each other at an opportunity.
    And this moment will certainly come. That's just the Soviet nomenclature struggled for power, and the current ones have a much more important argument - money, real estate. There is no doubt that they will choose their own in the throes of choice, hard-earned money and surrender everything for this. But GDP is not against the personal accumulations of its subordinates abroad, and the State Duma of the same opinion. We can only wait
    1. balunn 11 March 2020 13: 05 New
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      I only forgot to write that the money is in offshore and the real estate is abroad. It was this amendment that the patriotic state Duma did not introduce into the draft.
    2. kapitan92 11 March 2020 13: 06 New
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      Quote: Silvestr
      the current ones have a much more important argument: money, real estate. There is no doubt that they will choose their own in the throes of choice, hard-earned money and surrender everything for this.

      1. novel66 11 March 2020 13: 15 New
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        and God forbid, a progressive tax scale!
        1. Ingvar 72 11 March 2020 13: 47 New
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          Quote: novel xnumx
          progressive tax scale!

          Roman removed the language. Here they are, two key points that impede the development of the country.
          1. depressant 11 March 2020 14: 30 New
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            On August 11, 2016, a bill was introduced in the State Duma on replacing a flat taxation scale (13%) with a progressive one. The advanced population has long calculated the benefits - the budget will be filled with money. Putin once said that if you divide by all, there will be only a thousand, which is not true. Yes, and you don’t need to share it — you just manage it wisely, investing in the creation of 25 million jobs, no handouts, we are not cattle in the stalls. Since then, the project has either been hanging in the bowels of the Duma, or it has been cheated at all. Still would! Lobbying the interests of the rich is the main task of the Duma. It’s not worth it to deceive yourself.
      2. mark2 11 March 2020 18: 26 New
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        Dear, what exactly do you expect from the revision?
        You won’t get anything at all. State factories are unnecessary, therefore, in due time it got rid of them. They need to be loaded with something. Constantly giving orders to take care of employees.
        There will be a change of awl for soap and no more.
  • unaha 11 March 2020 12: 50 New
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    Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
    I will be rude!
    Two points that I personally will not accept in the new edition of the Constitution:
    - it is voiced above;
    - and an article about God.
    It would not be bad to organize a referendum with the adoption of the project item by article! I think it will be, fairer.
    Regards, Kote!

    Not for that muddy ...
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  • Gene84 11 March 2020 12: 51 New
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    Valentina Tereshkova

    They are now pecking Tereshkova. Why did she have to perform? Whether it was specially framed ...
    1. DEDPIHTO 11 March 2020 13: 29 New
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      Framed or not, but this gull was liquidated under the applause of the cormorants. She didn’t need to crawl into the State Duma and edro, if you look at the people, I would remember Seagull, a respected woman-cosmonaut, and so .. fool . Fall in the eyes of the people is a matter of seconds, and even brazenly giving out their own Wishlist for the people .. negative .
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        Quote: DEPHIHTO
        Fall in the eyes of the people is a matter of seconds, and even brazenly giving out their own Wishlist for the people ..

        It seems to me that she didn’t even realize herself that she was reading from a piece of paper that she was slipped into! Insanity is such a thing ...
        1. DEDPIHTO 11 March 2020 19: 51 New
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          What such insanity, the Constitution does not say anything about it. wassat Now, if an amendment is introduced that reasonably limits the upper age of deputies and officials up to the president, then another thing. In the meantime, it means everyone is capable and there can be no concessions, i.e. there is a deliberate fawning, to put it mildly ... yes
    2. Revival 11 March 2020 15: 07 New
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      They hold her there for that, they said that it was necessary to shout out, and she outlined. The whole role is worked out
  • unaha 11 March 2020 12: 52 New
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    Unable to understand where the people who support this all come from ... Maybe the "wrong people" really ...
  • rocket757 11 March 2020 12: 52 New
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    Yeah, the debate is hot and will be ... and the truth, as always, is slipping and slipping. Often she didn’t even stand nearby.
  • DMB 75 11 March 2020 12: 54 New
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    Meanwhile, in Runet mention of the word "Brezhnev" has become more frequent. Citizens felt some frank sense of deja vu

    There is no déjà vu. Heaven and earth. Many people remember that time, will they remember the present time with such warmth? I doubt it very much. Then everyone had work, housing, free medicine and education, the state was socially oriented, there was stability and confidence in tomorrow bottom .. Those who did not find it, do not understand .. The state treated people like people, and not like it does now. Even do not compare ...
    1. hhhhhhh 11 March 2020 13: 00 New
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      The USSR treated you well, but that did not stop you, you destroyed it.
      ..I am also an accomplice ...
      1. Ingvar 72 11 March 2020 13: 54 New
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        Quote: hhhhhhh
        you destroyed it.
        ..I am also an accomplice ...

        Yes, we are all here. We were all lured to the dark side, beckoning with a beautiful wrapper of capitalism. But there is always a way out, and in this situation it is a rollback to socialism, at least according to the Chinese model.
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          1. Ingvar 72 11 March 2020 14: 19 New
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            Quote: hhhhhhh
            There is no socialism in China.

            You tell Xi Jinping this. They have NEP under socialism. And we have communism for a single group of people, and serfdom for the rest of the population.
            P.S. Five years ago, the cheese was in my refrigerator all the time, now it appears there a maximum of once a month. For the rest of the grocery basket, they pressed too. And I'm not the only one such a "loser." All this against the background of an increase in bonus payments to top managers of state corporations. So are the bulkers right?
            1. hhhhhhh 11 March 2020 14: 39 New
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              Let's define in terms. What is socialism?
              We have ordinary capitalism, with the remnants of socialism in the form of free medicine and education, but not for long. This is already being eliminated in the EU, and the turn will come to us.
              Serfdom? Lying. You are free to starve to death anywhere, even abroad, and not near the Boss.)))) Did not the Communists show us in the international panorama how to live hungry under capitalism. they showed the truth.
              1. Ingvar 72 11 March 2020 14: 45 New
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                Quote: hhhhhhh
                in the form of free medicine

                About the terms - it’s not free, we pay for it. Everything, in each officially earned ruble. As in the EU, only they are more honest. There, people pay for quality medicine, and not for its appearance.
                The fact that we have ordinary capitalism is not, we have it wild, with elements of feudalism. Here in the EU it is ordinary.
                P.S. But I repeat, there is always a way out, and this is a rollback to the red system.
                1. hhhhhhh 11 March 2020 14: 53 New
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                  Here I went to the clinic with the younger doctor, then to the physio, did not pay a single ruble.
                  These are the remains from the USSR, we will soon pay at the reception.
                  "The fact that we have ordinary capitalism - no, we have it wild, with elements of feudalism."

                  1. Who is your feudal lord?
                  2. What is the usual capitalism in the EU? Retirement age is higher than ours. Benefits for visitors to Chukhons more than local. Fags are allowed sabbaths. Hard workers have big salaries and low taxes, so they go to work for thousands of kilometers.
                  What capitalism do the EU need in the Russian Federation?

                  “There people pay for quality medicine” - you would go there and try the medicine there.
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                    Quote: hhhhhhh
                    Here I went to the clinic with the younger doctor, then to the physio, did not pay a single ruble.

                    Have you considered the tax structure? wink
                    Quote: hhhhhhh
                    Who is your feudal lord?

                    The local government, which does what it wants on the ground, completely hammering the bolt on the laws.
                    Quote: hhhhhhh
                    What is the custom of capitalism in the EU?

                    Do you know the definition of capitalism? Read and figure out where which one. I think you agree with me. Retirement age is not higher everywhere, but pensions are higher almost everywhere, especially in relation to the cost of living. The average European pensioner spends 10-15% of his pension on food, in Russia 34%.
                    Quote: hhhhhhh
                    What capitalism do the EU need in the Russian Federation?

                    Socialism, I already wrote it to you.
                    Quote: hhhhhhh
                    “There people pay for quality medicine” - you would go there and try the medicine there.

                    Can you please tell me why all the officials of Russia go to the West for treatment? Is it because all the “efforts” of the government to “improve” medicine have failed? This is recognized by the Minister of Health. wink
                    1. hhhhhhh 11 March 2020 15: 19 New
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                      Socialism has already been. Wanted to the Gulag?
                      "The tax structure was considered" - taxation is not connected with pediatric doctors.
                      "The local government, which does what it wants on the ground, completely hammering the bolt on the laws." - It’s a lie, for a long time already the local authorities are doing everything according to the law. So try to go to court, they will perfectly explain to you the law of lawlessness.
                      "Do you know the definition of capitalism?" - steal, deceive, rob your neighbor. You can rob and relatives. The more you stole, robbed, killed, the more honorable the capitalist you are.
                      1. Ingvar 72 11 March 2020 15: 54 New
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                        Quote: hhhhhhh
                        Wanted to the Gulag?

                        Why are you going to extremes right away?
                        Quote: hhhhhhh
                        The tax structure was considered "- taxation is not associated with children's doctors.

                        Wait - and whose money does the health care system exist for? belay 5.1% of the salary of an employee goes to compulsory medical insurance. wink
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                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Wait - and whose money does the health care system exist for?

                        Definitely not yours.

                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        5.1% of the salary of an employee goes to compulsory medical insurance

                        You do not pay, discussed already.
                      3. Ingvar 72 11 March 2020 16: 10 New
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                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        You do not pay, discussed already.

                        Is it just talking about me? Talk about the system, Jack's Head. wink
                      4. Golovan Jack 11 March 2020 20: 09 New
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                        Talk about the system ...

                        ... that you, without investing a dime in it, are successfully used. Including for my account, mind you.

                        Not good, Ingvar. Obscurely no request laughing
                      5. Ingvar 72 12 March 2020 16: 10 New
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                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        Including for my account, mind you.

                        For you, I once drank tequila, and nothing more. Until 2015, I regularly paid all taxes, and did not use free medicine for at least 20 years. All I treated myself was just teeth. And for a fee. This is just now slowly starting. Age takes its toll. request And if you have even a small number of brains, it will be easy to calculate that I earned my infrequent visits to the hospital in advance. But not you. wink This is about my personality. Now can answer the system as a whole, once got into a conversation?
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                        I earned my infrequent visits to the hospital in advance

                        Nah ... buddy, you yourself said that the system lives on workers' contributions. Salaries are paid from these contributions, buildings and equipment are maintained (and purchased too), and so on and so forth.

                        What you paid five years ago is already eaten, digested, and ... well, I hope you understand.

                        And now, for five years now, you are not paying anything. And continue to resent the quality of free medicine request

                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Now can answer the system as a whole, once got into a conversation?

                        Nope. I am absolutely not interested in talking to you.
                      7. Ingvar 72 12 March 2020 16: 45 New
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                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        Nope. I am absolutely not interested in talking to you.

                        And each time you say these words when you are asked to say the essence. At the same time, poems are ready to write on the sarcastic discussion of the opponent. Nothing personal, but such behavior is characteristic of very narrow-minded, and bad people.
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        And now, for five years now, you are not paying anything. And continue to resent the quality of free medicine

                        Am I legally entitled to QUALITY medical care? Each time, you reject the concept of justice aside, and speak only about the current law, even if it is absolutely stupid.
                        But now talk about the opposite. Where do I want to go? wink Decide already. laughing
                        PS
                        Nope. I am absolutely not interested in talking to you.
                        So why the hell did you get into a dispute? belay
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                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Each time, you reject the concept of justice aside, and speak only about the current law

                        Asking questions like

                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Я according to law do I have the right to QUALITY medical care?

                        , somehow silly to talk about some kind of "justice", no? wink

                        By law, you have. You have no moral right to discuss the level of services provided to you for free - IMHO.

                        And I have nothing more to discuss with you request
                      9. Ingvar 72 12 March 2020 17: 10 New
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                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        You have no moral right to discuss the level of services provided to you for free - IMHO.

                        Almost 30 years before that, pay taxes, do not even have the moral right to resent the quality of service for several visits to the hospital? belay Yes, for a long time you thought to see. lol
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                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        long you thought to see

                        Not for long, I know how to do it well.

                        The obvious does not reach you - that you paid "yesterday", the system already ate. Do not pay today - the services are free for you. But all according to the law at the same time. Calm down already laughing
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                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        what you paid "yesterday", the system has already eaten. Do not pay today - the services are free for you.
                        For those who are especially stubborn, I’ll draw an analogy with retirement - I’ve paid my whole life, and then a freebie? belay No, Jack's Head, it's earned. fool
                      12. Golovan Jack 12 March 2020 18: 37 New
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                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        draw an analogy with retirement

                        Cool you have an "analogy." Type "Lake Baikal looks like a cucumber" wink

                        By the way, you don’t save your pension either, but you pay ROSSU-42, for example. Well, it's not you, it's those who pay in the FIU ... I, for one, laughing

                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        it is earned

                        Nah ... funny you, Ingvar yes
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    Children are treated from the budget, not from the salary
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    Children are treated from the budget, not from the salary

    Once again, targeted contributions are allocated to the compulsory medical insurance, and it is from the salary of working citizens. You should study the subject of the dispute.
  • hhhhhhh 11 March 2020 16: 27 New
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    OMS contains all the medicine of the Russian Federation?
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    Children's doctors for sure.
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    Health to all of us.
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    Health to all of us.

    Thank you, and you do not get sick.
  • Mordvin 3 11 March 2020 16: 01 New
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    Wanted to the Gulag?

    And what is the difference between the Gulag and the FSIN?
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  • hhhhhhh 11 March 2020 15: 33 New
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    Good European capitalism has muddied the Two World Wars and the genocide of a bunch of people around the world.
  • Mordvin 3 11 March 2020 15: 59 New
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    Here I went to the clinic with the younger doctor, then to the physio, did not pay a single ruble.
    These are the remains from the USSR, we will soon pay at the reception.

    My bata was kicked a week ago from the hospital, having sent home to die, saying that we don’t have such operations. My sister went to sort it out (doctor, about 30 years of experience), it turned out that the operations did. Put back with a creak.
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      When capitalism finally comes, they’ll put it only for big money.
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        put only for big money.

        Has long been. My friend's father was put in the corridor, and he died there. Chambers were free. Paid. While collecting money, Dad died.
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        He is such a capitalism. We really wanted him so. So dreamed of 100 varieties of sausage.
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        We really wanted him so. So dreamed of 100 varieties of sausage.

        And why didn’t I dream about it, huh? In our techie, in addition to the flocks, they gave food stamps, which we could exchange for the same sausage that we always had in the buffet. recourse
      4. hhhhhhh 11 March 2020 16: 19 New
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        Maybe the USSR went to protect the barricades?
      5. Mordvin 3 11 March 2020 16: 27 New
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        Maybe the USSR went to protect the barricades?

        Did not go. If I knew that such garbage would be, then I would go. And so .. He was a student, looked at Swan Lake, a fig did not understand what they want there in Moscow, and joyfully soldered the adapter from the Spectrum computer to the Horizon TV. And why there the GKChP with Gorbachev and Yeltsin were not divided, not really worried.
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        As everyone applauded us then, and today they scold. requiring interchangeability.
        If Putin has a stake, so let him be for life and even after death.))))
      7. Mordvin 3 11 March 2020 16: 37 New
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        If they have Putin stake

        And I, too, Putin stake. I generally all capitalism stake. In my walking distance, 4 enterprises where I worked were bent. 2 - under Putin, and not even in the zero, but in the tenth, and one - a year and a half ago. Moreover - the state. But I stopped respecting Putin by the end of his first term, when I saw that his chatter was at odds with the case, like those paths on the path of Ilya Muromets.
      8. hhhhhhh 11 March 2020 16: 44 New
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        If Pu doesn’t do what you want, it doesn’t mean wrong. And vice versa, if Pu does what you want does not mean good for the future.
        Who should I change Pu to?
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        If Pu doesn’t do what you want, it doesn’t mean wrong. And vice versa, if Pu does what you want does not mean good for the future.

        Of course, of course ... But here I, getting in the 90s under a million, somehow I did not think that this power is so good, because I personally feel good. I saw grannies fight over empty bottles screaming: "this is my territory!" And I saw how a youngster offered to suck for 5 thousand (something about a bottle of moonshine). I talked with “successful people” and with homeless people, and therefore I try to observe from all the bells, and not from one. And whether Putin is doing the right thing or not, no one can tell.
      10. hhhhhhh 11 March 2020 17: 14 New
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        Are you being bombed?
      11. Mordvin 3 11 March 2020 17: 47 New
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        Are you being bombed?

        Who?
      12. hhhhhhh 11 March 2020 18: 49 New
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        Who except civilized countries has the right to bomb?
        Throw off atomic bombs, millions of tons of conventional bombs.
        Only civilized countries are bombed.
      13. Mordvin 3 11 March 2020 18: 54 New
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        Only civilized countries are bombed.

        Well, if we don’t take off the vigorous loaf for someone, then we are Papuans golem?
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        So you will be glad knowing that your country dropped an atomic bomb on a peaceful city or will destroy Tokyo on March 10? Will you be ashamed of your country?
      15. Mordvin 3 11 March 2020 19: 07 New
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        So you will be glad knowing that your country dropped an atomic bomb on a peaceful city or will destroy Tokyo on March 10?

        I won’t. By the way, what is a "civilization country?"
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        It turns out we are Papuans. Civilized people do not reflect on the murder of their millions, especially Papuans.
      17. Mordvin 3 11 March 2020 19: 37 New
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        Civilized people do not reflect on the murder of their millions, especially Papuans.

        And I feel sorry for the Papuans. How did they sing in “Hairy Glass”?
      18. hhhhhhh 11 March 2020 19: 46 New
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        We have not grown to civilization. I don’t have such a civilization.
      19. Mordvin 3 11 March 2020 19: 51 New
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        We have not grown to civilization. I don’t have such a civilization.

        So what is civilization? Here pop Gundyaev assures that civilization began with the advent of the Russian Orthodox Church, and before that we collected cones under the trees, probably ..
      20. hhhhhhh 11 March 2020 19: 56 New
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        I would ask another question. We are a different civilization and we do not need to become "civilized Europeans".
      21. Mordvin 3 11 March 2020 20: 03 New
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        and we don’t need to become “civilized Europeans”.

        It’s getting wet, start over ... If you take Barykin’s songs with his bicycle and Khayyam’s poems, you don’t see any contradictions.
      22. hhhhhhh 11 March 2020 20: 06 New
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        What do you need from today's Europe? Cheetahs, ali benefits for migrants?
        First you need to decide whether we want the left world or the right?
      23. Mordvin 3 11 March 2020 22: 14 New
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        What do you need from today's Europe?

        I don’t need anything from them.
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        do we want the left world or right?

        Who cares?
      24. hhhhhhh 12 March 2020 07: 18 New
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        You have to pay for education. Pay - I will tell.
      25. Mordvin 3 12 March 2020 07: 20 New
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        Pay - I will tell.

        Shcha! One-eyed dreaming! Chicago play better laughing
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        Nahalyavu to get an education you dreamed, I have an education.
      27. Mordvin 3 12 March 2020 07: 28 New
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        I have an education.

        Will diplomas be measured? belay
      28. hhhhhhh 12 March 2020 07: 37 New
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        Wacky questions not to ask. To speak on business.
        Judging by the bazaar on the site, once again, for the joy of Uncle Sam, the Russians want to do as he wants. They don’t like Putin, and then after 30 years they will cry again, what kind of fools we had beaten the USSR. If you yourself think with your own head that you don’t see what you don’t like in the West, that’s the right thing. If they like it, then do not.
      29. Mordvin 3 12 March 2020 07: 45 New
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        If you yourself think with your own head that you don’t see what you don’t like in the West, that’s the right thing.

        And maybe I want them to not like it even more. To get to the installation of all kinds of voices of America, the BBC, and other all sorts of different German waves. So that the Americans spent trillions as they spent on the collapse of the USSR. The dispute is over, I have business. hi
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        Without measurement it’s clear, my diploma is thicker and longer.
        They had little money for the collapse of the USSR; they destroyed the USSR for cheap. They lost to the USSR economy in 19971
  • Was mammoth 11 March 2020 18: 04 New
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    My baht was kicked from the hospital a week ago ...

    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    My friend's father was put in the corridor, and he died there.

    "Order of the Ministry of Health of the Russian Federation dated December 20, 2019 N 1067н “On amendments to the Procedure for the provision of medical care on the profile of geriatrics”, approved by order of the Ministry of Health of the Russian Federation dated January 29, 2016 N 38n ”
    ... 3. Medical care in the "geriatrics" profile is a system of measures to provide medical care to patients elderly (60-74 years old) и senile (75 years and older) age... .

    ... 2. In paragraphs 4 and 6, the words "including high-tech" replace with the words “except for high-tech”.
    "...
    ... 6. In Appendix N 4 to the Procedure:
    a) in paragraph 2, the words "old and senile age" shall be replaced by the words "70 years and older.";
    b) in clause 9 the words "including high-tech" replace with the words “with the exception of high-tech”;"
    "7. In annex N 7 to the Procedure:
    a) in the second paragraph of clause 10 the words "including high-tech" replace with the words “with the exception of high-tech”;

    Etc. etc.
    1. Mordvin 3 11 March 2020 18: 08 New
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      by profile "geriatrics"

      I do not quite understand what is written there, but in both examples, what I cited is oncology.
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      I do not quite understand what is written there, but in both examples, what I cited is oncology.

      Simple. Oncology or some kind of trouble. If aged (lived to 60), then high tech medical assistance is not needed. Enema from all diseases will replace.
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      If aged (lived to 60), then high-tech medical care is not needed.

      So am I about that. Similarly, another friend's stepfather was sent home to die. Nefig to take a bed.
      Well, damn it ... And they kept me in the USSR with a simple cold for about two weeks in a hospital ... Plus with bronchitis, he also lay with the USSR hero in the same room for two.
  • Andrei from Chelyabinsk 11 March 2020 18: 59 New
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    There, people pay for quality medicine, and not for its appearance.

    Apparently, this is why a large number of foreigners who come to the Russian Federation for permanent residence or for a long period of time to the question "name 3 things you like in the Russian Federation" almost always mention medical care ....
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      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      There, people pay for quality medicine, and not for its appearance.

      Apparently, this is why a large number of foreigners who come to the Russian Federation for permanent residence or for a long period of time to the question "name 3 things you like in the Russian Federation" almost always mention medical care ....

      It is pleasant that the Uzbeks and other residents of Central Asia fall into the category of "foreigners" ... but you don’t get carried away much anyway)
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        It is good that the Uzbeks and other residents of Central Asia fall into the category of "foreigners" ..

        Alas and ah, but you are wrong. My relative in Yekaterinburg set up a whole business at the reception of Europeans and Americans in the Russian Federation. Many of them turn to her even after a long stay with us. And so she told me about this game - for several years now she has been asking the same question. Medicine is in the top three :))))
        In fairness, I note that her result was also surprising
        1. Liam 11 March 2020 19: 13 New
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          Whatever stories you can hear from relatives from Ekaterinburg (Voronezh, Tver and the rest of the list). Your problem is that you have lived your whole life within your native land and don’t really imagine how life (and medicine) works in developed countries
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          Given the fact that my good friends live in Germany and Canada for permanent residence, and I myself traveled to Europe? :))) Well, well :)))
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          Apparently you traveled that half of Europe, which is located between the Urals and Smolensk)
          And how often do acquaintances from Canada and Germany leave everything and run to treat their ailments in Chelyabinsk (Voronezh, Tver, etc.) clinics?
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          Well, if Spain, Italy and Greece are located between Smolensk and the Urals, then surely. I don’t even want to remember about Turkish dentists - I managed to ...
          And my friends from Germany and Canada were born and raised in the USSR, and they didn’t go abroad in 1991, they have something to compare with. And EVERYONE with whom I communicate less or less and who for a long time (a year or more) left to live with a golden billion say - to heaven there is very far away.
          Well, at the same time, can you tell us about yourself in which foreign countries you please live? And then, chesslovo, your nose pulled up into the ceiling is already a little tired to contemplate
        5. Liam 11 March 2020 22: 43 New
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          I don’t even want to remember about Turkish dentists - I managed to ...

          The funniest thing is that the "connoisseurs" of Western products from Runet-cite Turkish tomatoes as an example of European quality .. and the experts on European health care, Turkish dentists) .... although it would seem ... where is Turkey and where is Europe. And at what levels of development are .
          So I will remain in my opinion, from the Urals to Smolensk. A person who personally saw Europe and Turkey will never give an example of the latter as a European quality of life.
          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          Spain, Italy

          And what health problems did you experience in Italy and Spain, where were you treated there and how was it calculated that health care was worse there than in Russia?
          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          can you tell us about yourself, in which foreign countries you please live?

          I live in one of these 3 European countries you mentioned that you supposedly visited and are aware of how things are with medicine. I really want to compare your impressions with my personal experience
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          So I will remain with my opinion, from the Urals to Smolensk.

          Well, that's it, I won’t sleep at night now :)))))
          Quote: Liam
          A person who personally saw Europe and Turkey will never give an example of the latter as a European quality of life.

          Actually, I didn’t bring it, you just really wanted to cling to something. I just mentioned Turkish doctors as one of those with whom I dealt.
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          And what health problems did you experience in Italy and Spain, where were you treated there and how was it calculated that health care was worse there than in Russia?

          And again you distort, literally in every word. Firstly, I never said that medicine in the Russian Federation is better. I objected to the allegation
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          There, people pay for quality medicine, and not for its appearance.

          And he noted that foreigners living for a long time in the Russian Federation have a rather high opinion about our medicine.
          The second one. As I said, my opinion consists of the components:
          1) Opinions of foreigners who have lived in the Russian Federation for a long time
          2) Opinions of friends living on permanent residence in Europe and Canada
          3) My personal observations during trips to Europe.
          You offer me now to prove the superiority of medicine of the Russian Federation (which I did not postulate) on only one third of my arguments :))))
          Well, who are you after that? And why should I continue the discussion with you?
          But okay. Asked - we answer.
          While in Greece (about Crete, to be more precise), the child had troubles associated with allergic reactions. In the form that we quite successfully treated at home, and did not even think that she would return. But then she showed herself quite sharply and unpleasantly, with an attack. An attempt to buy medicine at the pharmacy did not work (it was identified by the English name, we were treated the same way), they are released only by prescription. It was possible to invite a doctor, but only tomorrow, because today he had gone somewhere. Or, as an option, go to the other end of the island (hours), and without guarantee of getting an appointment.
          The evening of the next day, the doctor appeared, listened to our explanations, including what they had treated for such attacks in the Russian Federation, but prescribed some kind of medicine, which ultimately helped, but much worse.
          So in the Russian Federation I wouldn’t even worry about just buying a medicine for a child, and if not, then in a resort town I would go to the doctor on the day the problem occurs. And not every other day.
          Italy, Terracina. Another child has a suspicion of either poisoning, or some kind of infection, or maybe heat stroke. Here, there are no complaints to the doctor - I looked and did everything as expected, but there is a nuance - we waited in line for three hours. I have not noticed any difference with the Russian Federation.
          But what is it with us all the time you ask questions? Let's get the other way around.
          In Russia, my daughter fell from a horse (equestrian sport) and broke her arm. She was cured (for free, of course), the fracture seemed to be simple, but a problem arose. After removing the plaster, her hand did not straighten up to the end, she remained bent at the elbow.
          So in the Russian Federation, I (apart from one consultation with a surgeon, to whom Putin personally handed over the prize as the best traumatologist of some year, because he was there by acquaintance and is not considered) took my daughter for examination in other cities:
          1) In the very famous center of Ilizarov in Kurgan
          2) In the department of one Yekaterinburg Institute of Medicine, specializing in correcting medical errors in pediatric traumatology (since there was a suspicion that the doctor who treated the fracture was mistaken)
          As a result, both there and there I received almost the same treatment plan, which I put into practice. One of the components of this plan was a very intense and varied physiotherapy and, then, therapeutic exercises. Everything was done and the arm straightened.
          So here. All of the above cost me $ 60-80, which I paid for admission to the above clinics, well, it’s clear that in the cities I drove my daughter at my own expense. But I, you see, I wanted very good doctors, much higher than average, to watch my daughter’s hand.
          And now please tell me what similar treatment would cost in the state where you deign to reside (well, trynd that you deign, I can’t check). However, I recommend to refrain from indiscriminate fantasies. The fact is that my friend living in one of the foreign countries found himself in the EXACTLY THE SAME situation, and I know how much such treatment cost him.
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          ))) "Tourist Breakfast"

          You can tell any stories of varying degrees of reliability. The level of medicine in different countries is estimated by objective indicators and not by stories.
          In objective reality, the level of healthcare is determined by the life expectancy of the population. There, the figures are eloquent in all the countries you specify.
          LEVEL OF LIFE IN THE COUNTRIES OF THE WORLD
          United Nations Development Program: Life Expectancy Index 2019.
          RATING COUNTRY INDEX
          (YEARS OLD)
          1 Hong Kong 84.7
          2 Japan 84.5
          3 Switzerland 83.6
          4 Singapore 83.5
          5 Italy 83.4
          6 Spain 83.4
          7 Australia 83.3
          8 Iceland 82.9
          9 Israel 82.8
          10 South Korea 82.8
          11 Sweden 82.7
          12 France 82.5
          13 Malta 82.4
          14 Canada 82.3
          15 Norway 82.3
          16 Greece 82,1
          ..............
          105 Cape Verde 72.8
          106 Solomon Islands 72.8
          107 Libya 72.7
          108 Grenada 72.4
          109 Russia 72.4
          110 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 72.4
          111 Bangladesh 72.3
          112 North Korea 72.1
          113 Venezuela 72.1
          114 Ukraine 72
          115 Egypt 71.8

          As for answering your answer, it’s easy. In Italy, in particular, any operation of any degree of difficulty in any state hospital and most private clinics throughout the country will cost the Italian exactly 0,00 euros. Exactly the same amount will cost him an operation abroad if he suddenly in Italy such operations are not done. Everything will be paid by the state represented by SSN
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          Liam, as you would expect, as soon as it came to the specifics, you merged merrily. To cite life expectancy as an example of a high level of healthcare is about how to compare the productivity of Italian and Russian farmers, forgetting that the Italian can harvest two crops a year, and the Russian one. Living conditions need to be compared, medicine is only one of the factors of high life expectancy. If you didn’t know this, then I don’t understand how you, with your intelligence, could type text on a computer. Moreover, in terms of Italian medicine, you either do not own the question (you have never hurt anything more than a cold) or you are lying corny, but more about that in the evening
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          example of a high standard of health life expectancy

          And why health care is needed if not in order to prolong a person’s life? What other indicators do you need? Statistics on types of diseases from oncology to cardiovascular, HIV, alcohol addiction and drug addiction when was the last time you read? The spending on medicine in absolute and relative (to GDP) figures when was the last time you looked? I can tell you in secret that these countries are still in the top twenty in these statistics, and the Russian Federation is still at the end of a hundred. Despite the stories of relatives from Yekaterinburg)
          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          forgetting that the Italian can take two crops a year, and the Russian one

          The main thing is not to forget to periodically scroll the globe and see at what latitudes Italy is geographically located and for example Krasnodar or Stavropol. How many crops are harvested annually in Krasnodar?). And also a tourist ...
          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          Living conditions need to be compared

          These are specific ones. It is very interesting to find out exactly what general living conditions will unite Japan, Italy and Iceland in which the same life expectancy and which others will unite this group of countries:
          Cape Verde 72.8
          106 Solomon Islands 72.8
          107 Libya 72.7
          108 Grenada 72.4
          109 Russia 72.4
          110 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 72.4
          111 Bangladesh 72.3
          112 North Korea 72.1
          113 Venezuela 72.1
          114 Ukraine 72
          115 Egypt 71.8
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          but about it - in the evening

          By all means)
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          And why health care is needed if not in order to prolong a person’s life? What other indicators do you need?

          I don’t need indicators at all, you dragged them into a dispute with only one goal - not to answer my questions. And don’t drag me into your boltology, I won’t answer all these points
          Quote: Liam
          Statistics on types of diseases from oncology to cardiovascular, HIV, alcohol addiction and drug addiction when was the last time you read? The spending on medicine in absolute and relative (to GDP) figures when was the last time you looked?

          I will give ONE simple example - and it will be clear what nonsense you are carrying here. Perhaps even to you.
          So, let's say that you are right, and it is the quality of medicine that determines the average life expectancy of the population. Let us ask ourselves, where is the best medical service in the Russian Federation? You see, there are many regions in Russia, and some of them reach the size of a European country, while others exceed :)
          So here are the leaders of the Russian Federation in terms of life expectancy in 2019
          Republic of Ingushetia - 80,4
          Republic of Dagestan - 77,0

          Moscow - 76,8
          Kabardino-Balkarian Republic - 75,1
          Karachay-Cherkess Republic - 74,9
          In general, I'm not so cruel, of course, to advise you to go for treatment in Ingushetia or Dagestan, if you suddenly decide to ride in the Russian Federation and get sick there, but ...
          Quote: Liam
          The main thing is not to forget to periodically scroll the globe and see at what latitudes Italy is geographically located and for example Krasnodar or Stavropol

          That is, even the globe was too complicated for you. Krasnodar, if that is approximately at the latitude of Turin. And where are the double crops in Turin? They are south. That is, you again dodge comparing the southern edge of the Russian Federation with northern Italian. You turn the globe again - the Russian Federation is a bit larger than the Krasnodar Territory. About 100 meters :)))))
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          By all means)

          In Italy, you will contact the doctor with whom you are registered, and he will appoint you to a specialist. And he will appoint you where he sees fit, and not where you want. And he will not suit you with a tour of the best specialists.
          Adult patients have the right to choose a medical institution for treatment in any region of Italy, but they can no longer choose a specific doctor in this institution. For children under 14 years old, parents can choose pediatricians only from the list of doctors working at the patients' place of residence
          And yes, the doctor will cost you not for free - that is, an operation, if anything, really will be free, but to visit a narrow specialist you will have to buy a ticket, a “ticket”. It costs relatively inexpensively - about 30-40 euros, but it is more expensive than the really cool (and not average) specialists cost me.
          But the most important thing is that the admission of a free specialist is scheduled for a very long time. It could be a month, or maybe months. Do not want to wait? Welcome to private clinics! But the trouble is already on a fee basis.
          So, the problem of restoring arm mobility in my girl required quick intervention. And with the highest degree of probability, if I lived in Italy, I would have had to completely pay for her treatment from private owners. And in any case, I could get advice from doctors "above average" only by paying them out of my pocket, at prices much higher than in Russia.
          And the case that I mentioned ...
          One very good person whom I have the honor to consider my friend, having a pretty decent job in Canada, and insurance, ran into a problem - a fracture in his child. The operation was free, but for the subsequent rehabilitation I had to pay a lot - it was not included in the insurance.
          This, I think, is worth finishing. As I expected, there was nothing behind your nose pulled up.
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          I do not need indicators at all, they were dragged into a dispute

          ))) Naturally not needed. It’s hard to argue with numbers and you can’t cover them with relatives. When the country is at the end of the first / beginning of the second hundred for all medical indicators, when in a comparable economy of Italy 60 billion euros are spent per year on 150 million inhabitants (8% of GDP) on health care, while less than 145 trillion rubles ($ 3 billion and less than 40% of GDP) are spent in the 3 millionth Russian Federation - there is nothing left to do behind art stories.
          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          Krasnodar, if something about the latitude of Turin

          I can tell you in great confidence that 60% of agricultural products in Italy are produced in the north of Italy (the Padan Plain) in those very latitudes of Torino. And double crops in Italy are harvested only by Chess of Chess, which is in the north and in the south. On the Apennine Peninsula, 70% of the mountainous area covered by apples and olives do not bloom 2 times a year. Like vineyards, rice, wheat and everything else. that tomatoes in greenhouses). A non-tourist tourist who saw real Italy and not Internet stories sees hundreds of thousands of hectares of apple trees, peaches, vineyards, etc. and millions of trees covered in spring with anti-frost nets until April. Italy has a wonderful Mediterranean climate, but not the tropics and not the equator. Two crops a year are not even fierce nonsense
          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          In Italy, you will see a doctor

          Let me tell you how in reality they are treated in Italy, and not your modified copy paste from the same internettourists.
          In Italy there is a basic (family) doctor for adults and a pediatrician for children. You choose it yourself according to your preferences. Of course, almost everyone chooses closer to home or work. But you can at least in the other end of the city if you want. Its services are free and paid from state budget (or rather, from the local budget. in Italy, health care is on the balance of the regions). They pay them depending on the number of patients, so they are interested in working well, otherwise people will go to another, fortunately, they have a couple of rooms for each quarter. If quantity is at the expense of quality, a maximum ceiling for the number of customers is established. All of his services — examinations, prescriptions, certificates, etc. — are free. Except for examinations that are not directly related to the disease — for example, examinations and issuing certificates for driving schools, sports activities, etc. They cost an average of 30 euros. Such a doctor earns from 10 to 20.000 euros per month on average. The truth contains a secretary with his own money.
          The working hours are 3 days from 8 to 14 and 2 days from 14 to 20. And a couple of hours a day for home visits.
          The moaning of tourists about how they went to the doctor and he is gone and will only be on the second day, from inability to read the tablet with the schedule of his work. In the same way, tourists tell horrors as they were waiting for a bus for 20 minutes in Paris (London or Rome) - they just I don’t know that at the bus stop (or the application on the device) there is an exact schedule and the natives go to the bus stop when the bus is close and do not spend their time waiting for it.
          At night and on weekends, there are such doctors on duty in the city. It is called guardia medica.
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          About hospitals. If the base doctor decides that you need surgery, he will give a referral. You choose the hospital yourself. If you want, you can even go to another region for surgery. This is entirely your decision. The hospital is absolutely free. Analyzes, X-rays, tomographs, cardiograms - are free of charge as part of t n Day Hospital. Usually, the entire preparatory part for the operation is done in 1 day. After 2-3 days, the operation itself is done. It is interned the day before it. The postoperative period in the hospital is usually 2/3. Rehabilitation is not in hospitals but in special rehabilitation centers so as not to load the hospital with a lot of people. Double rooms with all the amenities from bathrooms to oxygen masks and adjustable a la Transformer beds. Usually there is a TV . Food is free.
          According to the ticket. It is paid by those who go to the hospital without a doctor’s direction. It varies by region but usually 20-25 euros. Of course, not everyone pays. And depending
          1) from income
          2). From the severity of the problem. If the reception department found that your problem is serious and urgent, they give out a yellow or red code. Then there is no ticket and no queues.
          If the code is white or green, your problem is not serious and you should contact the base doctor and not go to the hospital and load it with garbage. Therefore, please pay the ticket and wait in line for the yellow and red codes.
          Private clinics. Most of them are -convenzionate. If it’s easier, they have an agreement with the state. If in the state hospital at that moment it’s a turn for a certain operation and so on, you go to such a private clinic, you will be operated on and the state will pay for the operation. But it works so only if you went to a private clinic through a state hospital. If you go to a private hospital from the beginning bypassing the state hospital, you pay yourself.
          The level of doctors is private in both state and private, although it would be because 90% of private owners have the main place of work as a state hospital. A private clinic for them is extra money. The salary of an average surgeon in a hospital is the same 10 / 20.000 euros.
        13. Liam 14 March 2020 12: 06 New
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          Well, according to your story about going to the doctors with my daughter because of the wrong operation.
          A trip through the "lights" is one of the signs of poor medicine. With normal medicine, such trips are almost excluded. And if a medical error occurs, such claims will fly to the hospital that they themselves will operate or invite a "light" or give directions to it. Naturally for the patient, everything will be free.
          As for the "average" doctors. I can only shrug and say that the average Juventus player is an order of magnitude cooler than the light of the Tula Arsenal)
  • Foul skeptic 11 March 2020 15: 37 New
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    You tell Xi Jinping this.

    Xi Jing Ping himself knows this. In China, "socialism" as in Italy of the 20-30s of the last century.
  • Vitaly gusin 11 March 2020 14: 53 New
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    Then everyone had work, housing, free medicine and education, the state was socially oriented, there was stability and confidence in the future .. Those who did not find it, did not understand .. The state treated people like people, not like now. Even not compare ...

  • Keyser soze 11 March 2020 12: 57 New
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    I can’t understand in any way - why did you have to remove the Tsar in 1917 and drown the country in blood and chaos if you again ran to another Tsar. Only the new "nobles" are unlike the more greedy and will not fight in Borodin. Very strange people you are Russian ...
    1. hhhhhhh 11 March 2020 13: 03 New
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      Before the nobles had time to legitimize the loot, Putin began to dispossess them.
    2. novel66 11 March 2020 13: 16 New
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      mysterious Russian soul, you’ll understand the hell without a glass ..
      1. hhhhhhh 11 March 2020 13: 58 New
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        Try not to drink. Maybe you will become Russian.
        1. novel66 11 March 2020 14: 03 New
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          but don’t look into my glass, and it’s not for a person with such a nickname to talk about my Russianness
          1. hhhhhhh 11 March 2020 14: 07 New
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            Russia is a free country, you yourself choose to be Russian or non-Russian.
            In this choice I am not a decree for you.
    3. hhhhhhh 11 March 2020 16: 22 New
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      It was not the people who cleaned the king, but his relatives and friends. Red terror was the answer to white.
      Bulgarians are also strange people, the Russians always help them, and the Bulgarians will always be ready to go to war against the Russians.
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  • Loess 11 March 2020 13: 03 New
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    are you familiar with the history of the Fatherland in government? Well, not with the one that has been since 1999, but at least a year since 1981. Leapfrog, political crises, squabbles for power, undercover games, open intrigues that followed after March 1953 and after November 1982 - forgot?
    That is precisely because they are familiarized and introduced an item on the State Council. The system must be stable. The State Council must ensure this stability. It is to avoid such phenomena as:
    Chekhard, political crises, power squabbles, undercover games, open intrigues
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      Quote: Less
      That is precisely because they are familiarized and introduced an item on the State Council. The system must be stable. The State Council must ensure this stability.

      all this is so naive. For ensuring the legality of the processes in power, there is such a (currently puppet, as I understand it, or it will reject the proposal to introduce serious changes to the constitution?) Body, like the constitutional court of the Russian Federation. Nothing will prevent further "rulers" from making this state council (as now the constitutional court) the same puppet. In general, I think that if the amendments are adopted, the referendum is passed and its power recognizes, then a dangerous precedent will be created for the country - a slight change of the constitution "for itself".
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        Quote: Aleksandr56478
        then a dangerous precedent will be created for the country - an easy change of the constitution "for itself".

        Can you recall a moment in the history of Russia when the authorities were “difficult” to change the constitution? Or even change it? It doesn’t matter when it was, just give an example when the authorities wanted to change the constitution and failed. Or she could, but with great difficulty. And then we will talk about "naivety" and "dangerous precedents."
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  • rudolff 11 March 2020 13: 10 New
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    I can hardly imagine anything like that in the states or in some kind of France. The next day, all the streets would be seething. And here ... quietly, like in a swamp. All the same, there is some kind of slavish psychology in us. At first the autocracy, then the "governing and directing" with a hot iron burned out any dissent. That’s the result. We calmly watched how they destroyed the country in the 91st, how they broke it through the knee in the 93rd, now on the new elbasy. I thought how in Belarus the option would not work in Russia, the mentality is a little different. Alas. Belarus, Ukraine, Russia ... it feels like goddamn territory where people for some reason did not deserve a decent life ...
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      Quote: rudolff
      it feels like goddamn the territory where people for some reason did not deserve a decent life ...

      Why not deserve it? Judging by the regalia, they were even very bent. What Soviet person could dream of a private jet or a yacht? So here, judging by the minuses and comments, there are such people. But hope dies last.
      Recently, there is no longer any feeling that all this bacchanalia will someday end. But for the good of the people, here we have reforms, now programs, then the constitution. And the people are so dumb that they don’t even realize that it’s practically impossible when something is privately owned and at the same time is beneficial for everyone:
      Article 9
      1. Land and other natural resources are used. and are protected in the Russian Federation as the basis of the life and work of peoplesliving in the respective territory.
      2. Land and other natural resources may be in privatestate, municipal and other forms of ownership.

      And, most importantly, thanks to such "sincere" care of the party (Edra) and the government Medvedev Mishustina, the population, despite the increased issuance of citizenship and maternity capital, is not growing. And how many do we need with our digitalization?
      Then the foreigner asked:
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      I can’t understand in any way - why did you have to remove the Tsar in 1917 and drown the country in blood and chaos if you again ran to another Tsar. Only the new "nobles" are unlike the more greedy and will not fight in Borodin. Very strange people you are Russian ...

      I answer. Then, so that the whole of Europe does not speak German.
      As for the fight of the "new nobles" under Borodin, it is easier for us to see the fight between Borodina and Sobchachka. And the "new nobles" themselves are already on the side of Europe, seeing in Russia only a free feeder.
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      Quote: rudolff
      I can hardly imagine anything like that in the states or in some kind of France. The next day, all the streets would be seething. And here ... quietly, like in a swamp.

      We have changed the regime three times in one century, and even the bloody Civil War has occurred - and you think this is not enough, and we have a swamp? I think that you are too mistaken about our people - they are simply tired of political troubles and economic turmoil, and therefore they are satisfied with the current government.
      Well, whoever doesn’t want to live in a “swamp” - welcome to the non-winter, some Russian people are ready to die for Svidomo’s ideas, Ukraine is waiting for you for new upheavals.
      1. rudolff 11 March 2020 20: 13 New
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        Do you consider yourself entitled to assert on behalf of the whole people that the current government is satisfied with it? And if you still are not happy with someone, do you offer a suitcase, train station, Ukraine?
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          Quote: rudolff
          Do you consider yourself entitled to assert on behalf of the whole people that the current government is satisfied with it?

          Yes, it is precisely I who can assert this on the basis of the results of the last presidential election.
          Quote: rudolff
          And if you still are not happy with someone, do you offer a suitcase, train station, Ukraine?

          Do you want to go against the opinion of the majority of the population of Russia?
          For what purpose do you want to impose your will on the majority of the people - have you felt smarter than everyone else, or are you paid for it?
          1. Dante Alighieri 12 March 2020 18: 59 New
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            Do you want to go against the opinion of the majority of the population of Russia?

            That is, if tomorrow the entire population of the Russian Federation, at the request of the country's leadership decides to make a collective seppuk, should I also follow their example? But what am I talking about? These amendments are uniform suicide. Only here you do not force me to participate.
            However, this will not stop you, because you are not accustomed to destroying what you did not create: first the Union, now the RF. Well, God help you. I wish only one thing: so that everyone who cares for the current government can fully feel the full responsibility for the decisions that you didn’t take (you took them for you), but which you defend with such zeal, because the slaves are mine look, and do not deserve a different fate.
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              Quote: Dante
              That is, if tomorrow the entire population of the Russian Federation, at the request of the country's leadership decides to make a collective seppuk, should I also follow their example?

              It is not necessary at all - you can remain with your opinion, but it will not mean anything to the majority. Well, our people should not be considered completely stupid - as one author said, our people are too adapted to survive in any situation, which is why they are invincible, and they seem not to be offended by the mind.
              Quote: Dante
              These amendments are uniform suicide.

              Come on, fantasize - Putin is not eternal, and the one who comes to replace him still does not know what kind of rings will be thrown out with the constitution, especially taking into account figures from EP. Although I personally think that Putin should have this deadline, and then he may have some honorable position, but it does not affect the decision-making of the new president.
              Quote: Dante
              However, this will not stop you, because you are not accustomed to destroying what you did not create: first the Union, now the RF.

              I did not ruin the Union, but on the contrary, I believe that everything that is happening now is a consequence of the collapse of the USSR.
              Quote: Dante
              I wish only one thing: that everyone who cares for the current government

              I’m not glad for the current government, but I don’t want the country to wash itself with blood once again - you probably didn’t go to the lessons of the past.
    3. flicker 12 March 2020 14: 08 New
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      The next day, all the streets would be seething
      Yeah, they would be seething laughing pay back ol street to help you. As in hydrochloric acid was dissolved.
  • rocket757 11 March 2020 13: 13 New
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    Valentina Tereshkova

    They are now pecking Tereshkova. Why did she have to perform? Whether it was specially framed ...

    Do not tell my horseshoes ... who is IT, and who are these, which are all different beakies ...
    Regarding her speech ... I do not like her, but this is her point of view, has such a right.
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      who is she

      But really, who? Reveal the secret. The most important thing is to highlight how you can stay afloat with all the regimes and rulers, while the Soviet Union, which blinded from it what you are saying enthusiastically. Pecking as you deigned to express it, not the symbol that this woman represents, but the act that this deputy was contracted for. And in general, as for me, the current composition of the State Duma is anti-national in essence and hated by the citizens of the country. After yesterday, for me personally, the parties of the CP, LDPR and the Communists died.
      1. rocket757 11 March 2020 14: 26 New
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        Quote: edeligor
        After yesterday, for me personally, the parties of the CP, LDPR and the Communists died.

        Let's just say ... there were no illusions AT ALL and I have nothing to see for a long time ... the latter ended when the heads of the communist surrendered the victory \ country to the wino!
        A SEAGUE is a SYMBOL of achievements of MY GREAT COUNTRY! Maybe all look for what I got into a topic on which I have not needed anything for a long time? at the very beginning of the topic. That’s the whole point.
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          I read it, so I put +. A SEAGUE is a symbol, not a person. Unfortunately, people are greedy and price traitors 5 silver coins from the time of Judah.
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            For the sake of a lifelong senatorialism, you can’t squander like that)
          2. rocket757 11 March 2020 14: 50 New
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            I remember the country as it was, all that was, that could be found out.
            And I remember the Seagull with the Falcon, how I met them at the MCC ....
            And at the expense of "ours" which "serve" for us, for the country .... there are no illusions. This state did not become mine, only people remained, mine, the same as me ...
            I have a case that allows me to maintain self-esteem .... I can tell my wards how it really was then, Schaub they were critical of what they would inspire now ... and more, I’ll go and put it wrong this power again and again. Let it be for now.
  • Konatantin 1992 11 March 2020 13: 14 New
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    Don't know who to vote for? vote for "Still"!
  • Pilat2009 11 March 2020 13: 16 New
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    Unable to understand where the people who support this all come from ... Maybe the "wrong people" really ...

    Putin is supported by the army and senior citizens who managed to jump in. Therefore, the opinions of the rest of him are not interesting
    1. unaha 11 March 2020 14: 49 New
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      One trouble - I personally do not know those. So where are they hiding all the time between elections ...)))
      1. Mordvin 3 11 March 2020 16: 07 New
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        So where are they hiding all the time between elections ...)))

        My relatives are like that. "Putin promised a pension increase ..."
  • Pilat2009 11 March 2020 13: 19 New
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    Dear ones, this is real democracy. You delegated your rights to the State Duma, she made a decision for you on your behalf.
    Maybe in the US something different?

    The United States has been living under its constitution for 150 years. And not a single president has thought of changing it.
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      Quote: Pilat2009
      The United States has been living under its constitution for 150 years. And not a single president has thought of changing it.

      Materiel. The Constitution of the United States adopted 27 amendments, the last - in 1992.
      1. unaha 11 March 2020 14: 51 New
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        We are talking about the fundamental characteristics, no one even rockets to change them - they will not understand. Here's how the right to a firearm for example.
    2. Seryj2 11 March 2020 13: 36 New
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      But what about a lot of amendments to the US Constitution? No, did not hear?
  • Vladimir B. 11 March 2020 13: 21 New
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    but if the Constitutional Court so decides, it will only remain to submit.

    That the Constitutional Court will decide correctly, I have no doubt.
  • Pilat2009 11 March 2020 13: 22 New
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    Quote: Keyser Soze
    I can’t understand in any way - why did you have to remove the Tsar in 1917 and drown the country in blood and chaos if you again ran to another Tsar. Only the new "nobles" are unlike the more greedy and will not fight in Borodin. Very strange people you are Russian ...

    I do not understand what state you are from
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      This is an old-timer site from Bulgaria.
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    Here I read the comments and I'm sad. Ah, how bad everyone is, Putin’s term was extended. And what? Does it make you all worse off? Than? I will try on points.
    1. Putin is the guarantor of corrupt power. Well, my dear ones, what about, after Putin, a thornless and a non-possessor? Completeness to you. Now they are at least fighting corruption after all. And the same Voloshin will come? Or, God forbid, the Communist Party? Or even United Russia? They will steal. And to sell everything they reach. For they will come for one term, many for two. And that’s all. These are temporary workers.
    2. Change of power. And what is this, excuse me, the end in itself in this turnover? Just to change? Rave. To express needs and aspirations? For this we have deputies. Express a lot? So that the victorious party is in power - well, here you have a handful of edrosov in power for about ten years, according to the term of each new "victorious president." Nice picture?
    3. What else is there? Youth into power? But do we have someone as smart and competent as Putin?
    4. Change state policy? so Putin is, of course, the leader. But not God and not Autocrat. With him and under him is a huge team. Around - the elite of the nation, managers, officials, generals, all sorts of figures. Are they just starting to change everything for you? Why would you? Because you are so hunting?
    5. He promised to leave, but did not leave? So Putin is also a man. I personally and my work colleagues, many of my acquaintances, relatives, friends - all anxiously waited for the year 2024 and do not want Putin to leave. And in power is exactly the same. No one wants change. That's why they persuaded. Or insisted. Or they simply demanded that he stay. Finally, man is man. it’s hard to be the President of Russia, but few will be able to refuse such a post. Actually, I would also agree to continue to edit. You are not? Would you leave? Nope, not gone. Putin did not want to break the law. In this he is scrupulous and scrupulous. Well, the law now permits. That's good.
    6. Old? Oh, I beg you. Trump is older. Xi Jing Ping is older. Elizabeth II is generally an old woman. And nothing quite they rule. Bernie Sanders is running out - an old balabol. And even our Liberahs are silent that he is old.
    7. Again, about power. Like - bad. It is necessary to evaluate the power of the results. In 99m Putin came to a impoverished plundered country. Where people died and went hungry and there was no work. Now everyone is eating three throats, apartment-cars are being bought up like pies. Russia is a world power with a strong army that can put a bolt on all the machinations of enemies. Here is the result of the activities of this government. For me - a great result.
    To summarize. I do not see anything wrong in the next term for Putin. You feel bad - well, you’re worse.
    1. unaha 11 March 2020 14: 55 New
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      Well ... When suddenly the next iteration of the collapse of the country, as a result of the actions of the current "elite", sneaks up, do not forget that there is nothing wrong with the irremovability of power.
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      In 99m Putin came to a impoverished plundered country. Where people died and went hungry and there was no work.
      Well, just like that, the amended wrestlers just want to return Russia to the state of the 90s and joyfully yell for the "end of Russia."
  • Ivan Kolodin 11 March 2020 13: 27 New
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    Remember Alexei recently, you tried to find a rational explanation for the actions of the authorities, and now you understand that this is the road to nowhere, that the country has systematically been seeking reforms for 20 years ... And the legacy of the USSR is being added ....
    And I want to say to all Zaputin just those like your idol who sold the USSR, and now they are selling Russia and its greatness ... And combing yourself with the new nobility ....
    And now I understand where there was such hatred in the civil ...
    The people were brought to the handle then hung all the boyars for the balls ...
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      And now I understand where there was such hatred in the civil ...
      The people were brought to the handle then hung all the boyars for the balls ...
      Just do not pull the owl on the globe.
      Then the peoples was brought, and now people just snickered. After all, never in their long-suffering history did the Russian people live as well as under Vladimir Vladimirovich.
      Already forgot the gang war of the 90s, forgot how Putin saved Russia in the 00s, forgot the kilometer-long queues for toilet paper in the 80s, forgot the "sausage expresses" of the 70s, but they remember how it was "the sky was bluer, the grass was greener, and the ice cream (ice cream) was tastier."
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      And how much has yet to be ...
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    Reported about oil and zeroing ... and then it started ...
  • Abracadabrus 11 March 2020 13: 41 New
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    “Ukraine without Kuchma,” “Assad must leave,” “Get Yanukovych,” now “Putin must leave.” The slogans are all familiar, and their source has been well known since the time "We will destroy the whole world of violence ...". But just every time I hear this “Get!”, I ask: “Well, let's say he’ll leave, and who do you propose in his place?” In response, a vague bleating begins, about the wisdom of national identity, which will certainly choose the most worthy. Sorry, but this is not the answer. Who specifically can you offer? Name, sister ?! That's just it that you will not say, because if you say, the people will not just spit in your face, but also add a brick. First, propose a worthy replacement around which the people could rally, and then yell your Get! Otherwise, again come the replacement of deaf manufacturers and clown puppets.
    PS If it were my will, Putin would give a lifelong presidency, and then eternal life. And not because I’m a padded jacket, but because it’s painful to watch how it burns in the horses.
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      PS If it were my will, Putin would give a lifelong presidency, and then eternal life.

      From the material - in a special way: "The bots (crossed out) of the representatives of the truly correct electorate, and they won’t be taken, so don’t be zealous ..."
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    2. Honest Citizen 11 March 2020 14: 08 New
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      “Ukraine without Kuchma,” “Assad must leave,” “Get Yanukovych,” now “Putin must leave.” The slogans are all familiar, and their source is well known.

      Putin's "economic successes" are clearly reflected in Forbes magazine.
      And now tell me about those successes that are not reflected there.
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        The Forbes magazine smiled. You would still refer to Jen Psaki. But let's waste aside? I asked a very specific question:
        Every time I hear this “Get!” I ask: “Well, let's leave, and who do you propose in his place?” In response, a vague bleating begins, about the wisdom of national identity, which will certainly choose the most worthy. Who specifically can you offer? Name, sister ?!

        And your lunge does not give an answer to this question. Well, name the candidacy that is guaranteed to provide us with paradise on earth.
        1. Honest Citizen 11 March 2020 14: 21 New
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          Well, name the candidacy that is guaranteed to provide us with paradise on earth.

          Guaranteed heaven on earth will not provide anyone. If you specifically ask me who I would vote for in the presidential election, then I will answer: either Grudinin or Platoshkin.
          The Forbes magazine smiled. You would still refer to Jen Psaki.

          Well, it’s clear that you don’t read the magazine, you only have a free newspaper, which is distributed in the Moscow metro, and even yesterday’s issue.
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            paradise on earth will not be provided by anyone
            Well, at least in some ways we agree. Only here from Putin for some reason they demand the creation of heavenly conditions. But this is a rhetorical remark. Now essentially:
            either Grudinin or Platoshkin

            One, judging by the reviews of his own employees, was a scammer, unable to ensure prosperity and justice for workers on a single "collective farm", what can we say about the country. But accounts and real estate abroad. However, Forbes doesn’t write about this, so it’s as if it’s not, right?
            But the second ... What is he good at? Only "smart" articles, with errors, are not permissible for a graduate of MGIMO. Well, as it were, with the right slogans, a mile away reeking of populism.
            Thank you so much for the answer. Now people can at least see who they predict to Putin’s place.
            1. Honest Citizen 11 March 2020 14: 51 New
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              Now people can at least see who they predict to Putin’s place.

              Why immediately read? I wrote: this is specifically my opinion. I do not impose it on anyone, and do not advocate.
              Putin does not require paradise conditions, but the fulfillment of his own promises. And these are different things.
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                Why immediately read?
                Because there is a very wonderful Stalinist principle:
                You criticize - offer. Suggest - do it. Do it - answer.

                All who are not ready to act on this principle are either bullies (empty chimes) or provocateurs. Claim, "Putin must leave!" - suggest an alternative. Suggest - work to promote this alternative. Well and accordingly, be prepared if the "grateful" people put you then against the wall, stand upright and with dignity, and not shout "For what ?!", letting the fetid slush into boots.
                Putin does not require paradise conditions, but the fulfillment of his own promises
                There is no need to push slogans. Not a single ruler has fulfilled all promises yet. These are wet dreams. And with Putin everything is simple: we compare Russia of the late 90s, when he came to power, and present. If you say that it didn’t get better, or “a little”, then you are either blind or deliberately fooling around. Well, if it became much better, then why the hell then Get, and without a decent alternative?
                this is specifically my opinion. I do not impose it on anyone, and do not advocate.
                No, dear, if you bring this opinion to the public sphere - this is propaganda, to say the opposite is to lie.
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              Good. I do not like Grudinin or Platoshkin, reptiles of the same sort with accounts of the willies (here who would say) I propose myself instead of a cat. According to your bloody 1993 constitution. A citizen of the Russian Federation, I don’t have accounts and villas, 20 years of military service, two towers. I can even put forward a program in general terms.
              1. Dissolution of the parliament and re-election of deputies of all levels with the abolition of all filters.
              2. Convening a Constituent Assembly to draft and adopt a new Constitution
              3. Nationalization, complete and unconditional of the entire raw materials sector, investigation of activities and taking the central bank under state control.
              4. Immediate counter-reform of education and health care, the abolition of the current pension legislation.
              5. Establishment of the post of special prosecutor for the fight against theft and corruption. The restoration of the death penalty for corrupt officials who have damaged more than 10 million rubles. Law enforcement cleaning.
              6. The introduction of protectionism as the basis of the economy, the country, 0 taxes for production and to the maximum for financial speculators. Progressive scale.
              This is for a start. You yourself said that they say you have nothing to offer. Here I propose.
              Putinists will surely say that the dude is raving ... of course my passage looks ridiculous, but you will laugh at your own hypocrisy and obscurity. Everything is according to your piece of paper, which most of you did not bother to read as unnecessary, because Putin and only Putin, together with the system he built for pumping resources out of the country, is your real constitution
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                of course my passage looks funny

                This is where we stop. Our neighbors have already chosen one clown, the result is not impressive.
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                  Now it’s not impressive yet ... But everything is ahead. For at least 16 years you have at least enough to compete not only with Ukraine, but also to reach the heights of Congo and Rwanda. Go ahead guys. Although ... if you think that the fabulous is immortal, then I will disappoint. After all, anything happens. Prostate cancer for example. Or slipped in the bathroom. Others even from a snuffbox or scarf suddenly happened. Yes, and the plug is also a curious thing.
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                    But everything is ahead. For at least 16 years you have at least enough to compete not only with Ukraine, but also to reach the heights of Congo and Rwanda.

                    Oh, what a funny dream you have.
                    if you think that the fabulous is immortal, then I will disappoint. After all, anything happens. In the bathroom slipped. Others even from a snuffbox or scarf suddenly happened. Yes, and the plug is also a curious thing.

                    So Kassandra also ended her days poorly ...
                    However, okay, in the field of clowning I give you the palm. Wear with pride.
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                  I read your correspondence. After transferring by an opponent, you merged and are quite undisguised
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          Quote: Abracadabrus
          Every time I hear this “Get!” I ask: “Well, let's leave, and who do you propose in his place?”

          Amazing logic ... Have you read the topic or "where"? Who says “Get”? - Yes, work until 2024 - everything is according to the law, and then provide elections for other candidates. You are told about compliance with the rule of law, about the succession of power, about compliance with the Constitution - that if it says about 2 terms, then we are talking about two terms, and not 3,5,7, 25. And either the Basic Law is respected by all, or we must admit that it is not for everyone from the very beginning and that they can be turned around as profitably turning.
          Quote: Abracadabrus
          Well, name the candidacy that is guaranteed to provide us with paradise on earth

          What kind of "providing heaven on Earth" is there when we cannot ensure the fulfillment of the basic law? Or are you incurably convinced that among the 145 million people there is no one other than the incumbent president to head the country after 2024? ..
          1. Operator 11 March 2020 15: 16 New
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            No need to drive diso - the current Constitution of the Russian Federation allows at least one hundred presidential terms, but with breaks between every two terms in a row.
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            What kind of "providing heaven on Earth" is there when we cannot ensure the fulfillment of the basic law?
            I beg you! Is constitutional amendment legal? Legally. They do it all over the world. And the principle “I don’t like the amendments, that means they are illegal” - this is lawlessness. It has already sounded: "the determination of the rule of law should give the COP." And immediately the answer: "If the Constitutional Court recognizes these actions as legal - this is a violation of the law." Well, my dears, if there are only two opinions, one of yours and the other wrong, then what and why are we arguing about?
            Or are you incurably convinced that among the 145 million people there is no one other than the incumbent president to lead the country after 2024?

            I’m just sure of the opposite. Have you read the topic or "where"? I say - call! AND? In response - either frankly ridiculous options, or about anything, but not to the point.
            Who says Geth? Yes, work until 2024
            Your question already contains an answer.
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            that among 145 million people there is no one other than the incumbent president in order to lead the country after 2024? ..

            And who forbids to nominate another candidate out of 145 million?
            You can put forward your candidacy and win, and thus solve such a glaring problem.
            You understand that you will not win the election, that most of the 145 million will vote for Putin, and that is why you want to eliminate Putin from the election. That is why you have such a tantrum.
            Why are you so afraid of Putin’s new testimony?
            Maybe you disgust that Russia during the reign of Putin has strengthened, transformed the army, transformed so much that you can’t break it by military force. The only way out is to ruin Russia from within, and Putin for this obstacle cannot be defeated in popular elections (through the will of the people). Hence this whine about amendments.
            Z.Y. Calm down, breathe deeper. bully
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          Quote: Abracadabrus
          Well, name the candidacy that is guaranteed to provide us with paradise on earth.

          We got it already with the fact that there is no one to replace the guarantor. Yes, by the way, he is not a guarantor at all, since the constitution: "I twist, spin, I want to deceive." Well, Patrushev in the king choose. Moreover, he also has a brilliant heir.
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            We got it already with the fact that there is no one to replace the guarantor.
            Name, sister! Name!!!
            Well, Patrushev in the king choose.
            So he is from the Putin team. Even if 99% vote for him, you’ll still yell "illegitimate"
        4. Revival 11 March 2020 15: 18 New
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          Well, where do they call the candidates.
          Only Yeltsin could name a good candidate for you, but he is already gone
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            Only Yeltsin could name a good candidate for you

            Well, this is of course a reason to just stupidly yell "Get!" Without offering anything in return. I applaud while standing! laughing
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              Well, this is of course a reason to just stupidly yell "Get!" Without offering anything in return. I applaud while standing!
              Now, to the question "who are you offering?" followed by an answer like "yes, there is someone." A pianist virtuoso was found in Ukraine, and they want the same for us. Against Putin, they are weak (these Volodya and other grant-eaters and grantosos), they will not be able to unleash the "right" candidate (al Zelensky) in peak - that’s what they seized on the amendments.
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      if the power structure is imprisoned for one specific person with manual control, you will never see an alternative candidate on the horizon.
      1. Abracadabrus 11 March 2020 16: 16 New
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        if the power structure is imprisoned ...

        We have only one structure - the presidential republic, with clearly defined powers of the head of state. Accordingly, whoever sits in this chair will have these powers. If Putin has enough of these powers, and the other candidates do not have enough, then you are suggesting some flawed candidates.
        never on the horizon will you see an alternative candidate

        If this horizon is limited to the party of the current liberal opposition, then yes, there is no one to choose from.
      2. flicker 12 March 2020 10: 44 New
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        if the power structure is imprisoned for one specific person with manual control, you will never see an alternative candidate on the horizon.
        The problem of grant-eaters and grant-suckers is not that someone doesn’t “see an alternative candidate”, they exist for grant-eaters and grant-suckers to find and promote the alternative candidate (they are masters here, they get the shekels for good reason), the problem is that their "skill" is not enough to unleash another candidate in spite of Putin.
        Hence all this hysteria as amended.
        Another question arises: why are they so against Putin?
        The answer is in another question: why was the West (which applauded Gorbachev and Yeltsin) so ganged up against Putin?
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  • Borisych1973 11 March 2020 13: 54 New
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    On TV screens - no less wonderful and respected people. Conductors, directors, heads of Duma factions and others, others, others.

    For some reason, this form of prostitution is not prosecuted by law ...
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  • Million 11 March 2020 14: 19 New
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    Political prostitute.
  • Zabvo 11 March 2020 14: 33 New
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    Bad forebodings, the 20s will probably be very difficult and difficult for us.
  • Sklendarka 11 March 2020 14: 53 New
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    Quote: Honest Citizen
    Alas, I have grown only to the Komsomol.
    But what I see from your posts is what I wrote.
    And, please, do not confuse Communists with opportunists from the party.

    And who will be the KGB colonel?
  • Kisa 11 March 2020 14: 55 New
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    As I understand it, the union state with Belarus for some reason does not work out to renew authority again and just decided to stupidly nullify without further ado ....
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      just decided to stupidly nullify without further ado
      So what? Have you been violated in your rights, have you been deprived of your voting rights?
  • 16112014nk 11 March 2020 15: 03 New
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    All this undercover fuss of the authorities becomes simply indecent.
  • WayKheThuo 11 March 2020 15: 05 New
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    Tereshkova’s example is a vivid indicator that an astronaut, even an outstanding one, is just a man. Moreover, the person is not in his place. I came up with a proposal, perhaps her personal (which I doubt), but absolutely crazy.
    Well, she suggested, as for me, a dangerous thing with the most worthless consequences, but another question is gnawing at me - who elected it to the deputies? Someone voted for her, damn it! It’s tight for a man in his 70s, he’s 9th, and she is elected to one of the branches of government - the legislative. Who did this? How did she get there? What can a person at this age really offer, besides complete nonsense, implicated in tube memories of long past youth? Who is she - a lawyer? No. Or maybe a woman who has been grated by life and who has gone through a serious school of life "on earth? Twice - no, because her cosmic exploits (without any irony) do not provide that indispensable life experience that can help in the development of really suitable, useful, really working laws .
    Perhaps she would be an excellent consultant for the younger generation of astronauts, or the organizer of the training of female space crews, BUT, the Uramengas jalyab, not a legislator! She has neither the corresponding experience, nor the corresponding specialty.
    And how many are there in the State Duma. People not in their places, people long divorced from the realities of our lives? Yes read the whole composition.
    And this is only in one of the branches ...
    Damn, how did this unprofessionalism get me, this total incompetence and squalor of the powers that be!
    They jump, play out - a new government will pass over that will remember and reach all of these "beauties" anywhere in the "ball", and if not up to them, then up to their children, because there is nothing more dangerous than the accumulated years of unaccountable hatred mixed up in feelings betrayal and unfulfilled hopes.
    I think so.
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      Quote: WayKhe Thuo
      Tereshkova’s example is a vivid indicator that an astronaut, even an outstanding one, is just a man.

      Against the background of Leonov, she did not so much discredit herself in the eyes of the majority of the country's population. But her last deflection before Putin is certainly a shameful spot in her biography. And she will go down in history as Luzhkov - he did a lot for Moscow, but in the end he managed his wife and left the post in disgrace.
      As the saying goes, "Stirlitz knew that they would remember the last phrase" ...
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      Quote: WayKhe Thuo
      Tereshkova’s example is a vivid indicator that an astronaut, even an outstanding one, is just a man. Moreover, the person is not in his place. .
      With all due respect to her, as an astronaut, it is still striking that she is not a pilot, a person without education. She was a simple seamstress, before the selection, in contrast to the men of the astronauts, who were consciously pilots before the selection, that is, professionals, highly qualified people, some with combat experience. Tereshkova in their row looks like a black sheep in this particular parameter, and not because she is a woman. Actually, after the flight, she apparently remained a seamstress, despite her ranks and academies. Having also become the talking head of the "approving" party line. So in this role it still remains. I had the impression that she was brought to the podium yesterday, where she read with difficulty and hesitation a text written by someone, after which she was carried away. I am ashamed of both her and the fact that a multi-million country can try to hang noodles on her ears in such an undisguised way.
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        the impression was that they brought her to the rostrum yesterday, where she read with difficulty and hesitation a text written by someone, after which she was carried away. I am ashamed of her too
        Didn’t it occur to you that a person might just have an opinion different from yours?
        And you need to be ashamed of yourself.
  • unaha 11 March 2020 15: 05 New
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    "When you see that trading is not by consent, but by force,
    when in order to produce, you must obtain permission from those people who do not produce anything,
    when money flows away to businessmen not for goods, but for benefits,
    when you see that people become richer for a bribe or for patronage, and not for work,
    and your laws do not protect you from them, but them from you,
    when corruption brings revenue and honesty becomes self-sacrifice,
    know that your society is doomed. "
    1. Abracadabrus 11 March 2020 16: 33 New
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      So this is you one in one US described! Well, wait until they finally doom)))
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        In the US, I actually do not care. Unfortunately, I see full compliance with my country (
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      when money floats away to businessmen
      Do you mean Boris Mints?
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        And this, too, especially to him such a good swim turned out.
  • CBR600 11 March 2020 15: 06 New
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    Sovereignty. I so expected that they would put me in prison for closing the AZLK-Luzhkov. That there will be a commission that will continue to disclose similar ... And then it became scary.
    Activity Result:
    __ 78 THOUSAND plants and factories closed / killed,
    __ 48 THOUSAND large collective farms in the village reduced 5 times of the remaining 30% unprofitable. Round up to 100 thousand. -
    __ 10 MILLION people are drug addicts, 5 MILLION of regenerated alcoholics, 2,5 MILLION of HIV-infected people (most of them are in the E-burg)
    __ 20% of the total world heroin turnover is consumed by Russia (300 TONS per year). In terms of consumption, we are third after Afghanistan and Iran (note Iran).
    __ All 70 research institutes of the agricultural machine-building industry were destroyed (S.A. Sidorov, Doctor of Technical Sciences)
    __ The defeat of the agro-industrial complex acquired the legislative framework (academician V.I. Kashin)
    __ 50% of the food the country imports. This is a food security issue.
    ... 15-20 years left. to the level of Iran or Afghanistan, without children, without industry without grain.

    HOORAY !!! I'm for hmmm .. Re ..., cheer up! What would have finished the country-MORE MORE APPROVED!
    1. Abracadabrus 11 March 2020 16: 35 New
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      I see very specific numbers. Can I refer to the source?
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      78 THOUSAND factories closed / killed

      And here I googled and found amusing statistics from Soviet times.
      At the time of the collapse of the USSR, 70 thousand factories did not exist in the RSFSR. In general, even if we consider small ones too.
      And even 50 thousand did not exist. And even 30 thousand did not exist either.
      And in total, according to the official statistics of the RSFSR for 1990, there were 25240 large, medium and small enterprises. Of these, medium and large - 13063 pieces.
      (c) The National Economy of the RSFSR in 1990 (Statistical Yearbook). Moscow. Republican Information and Publishing Center. 1991
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        What a rare liar you are !!! You should at least download and read this yearbook in full format, from cover to cover.
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      10 MILLION people are drug addicts, 5 MILLION of regenerated alcoholics, 2,5 MILLION of HIV-infected
      Excuse me, is Putin also to blame?
      I’ll also add to your list: and even in the porches, the bulbs often do not light and cigarette butts are lying around.
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  • Nordic777 11 March 2020 15: 14 New
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    Something so all excited? Let them write at least three terms; GDP will decide whether it will go or not for a 5th term. This is his business ... well, all this time until 2024 there will be a reserve for maneuver
    1. CBR600 11 March 2020 15: 20 New
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      I ask you not to lie to your people. And explain, why is this?
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        I ask you not to lie to your people. And explain, why is this?

        Grant-eaters (like the author) want to promote the "right" person (well, for example, as Zelensky in Ukraine) as president of Russia, PR technology is already there (tested in Ukraine), but it will not work with Putin’s participation. What is the way out for grant-eaters and grant-suckers? Answer: to ensure that Putin does not stand for candidacy in 2024. Then the grant-eaters grantosos are sure that they will be able to promote the "right" candidate. They were able to promote the "virtuoso pianist" in Ukraine.
  • Revival 11 March 2020 15: 23 New
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    "The United Russia faction will unanimously support amendments to the country's Basic Law. The Just Russia faction and the Liberal Democratic Party will also vote in the second reading. The Communist Party faction will abstain from voting."

    Yes, we have a strong opposition ...
    Everything ... finished irrevocably ..
  • iouris 11 March 2020 15: 27 New
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    A bit of methodology.
    You can live without a constitution without a state, without bread, vodka and circuses - you can’t. "People" in general is not a political actor, so the age or number of years of rule is not a decisive factor, for example, England: Queen Lizaveta-2 was born when Stalin was just starting, and wisely rules scary years. Not everyone can cope with the management of a particular state in a particular historical era, therefore, the criteria are functionality and efficiency. The lack of the required functionality for a particular ruler is a vice, which is obvious. An example is Zelensky. Efficiency is not such an obvious indicator of governance, especially for the crowd (unstructured people, people who, however, believe that they have an active suffrage). If an effective alternative to anointing is not obvious, then the next ruler is likely to be worse than the previous one. In addition, power (democratically) is seized not by one leader, but by a “team” (ie, a “gang”). If only the leader is changing, then political changes are likely to be cosmetic. It will take a lot of time to create a fundamentally new grouping, and the time factor is now crucial. In any case, the result that the “people” (the source of power) will ultimately have cannot be higher than economic conditions, i.e. socio-economic formation, which is an objective factor and imposes natural restrictions on the functionality of the ruler and Wishlist of the population.
    Therefore, I wish you all the realization of all real dreams!
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      In any case, the result that the “people” (source of power) will ultimately have cannot be higher than economic conditions, i.e. socio-economic formation, which is an objective factor and imposes natural restrictions on the functionality of the ruler and Wishlist of the population.

      socio-economic formation ... Do you yourself believe in this?
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        Quote: CBR600
        Do you yourself believe in this?

        There is no subject for faith. Formulate (those) the problem.
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  • BAI
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    for what all this was started

    For the sake of extending my tenure.
    By the way, we are waiting for the next circus with horses.
    Voting on April 22. And the waiting period for the application of the case (request) to the Constitutional Court is 1 year (it happened, there are a lot of cases, toilers - judges do not have time). Those. either the application for the constitutionality of canceling the deadlines was filed a year ago, or the judges themselves will break their rules. Once again, by the way - what about the equality of applications awaiting their turn for consideration by the Constitutional Court?
    Have another triumph of legality? We live in a legal society, however.
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      And the waiting period for the application of the case (request) to the Constitutional Court is 1 year

      Why so lie? Nevertheless, the law on the Constitutional Court spelled out. The term for consideration of the application after registration is no more 2 months. Then on time no more 1 month a decision is made on the acceptance for consideration. After that 1 month. to an appointment for a hearing. I draw your attention - the dates are indicated as no more, that is, no longer, but less - please.
      There is also about 1 year in the law - this is the maximum time period for appeal to decisions of lower instances in the Constitutional Court.
      or judges themselves will break their rules

      Another nonsense. According to the law, the order of consideration of cases is adopted by the Constitutional Court itself. When the appointment is scheduled, then they will consider, but on time not exceeding prescribed by law.
      Do you love all-crawlers to carry nonsense.
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        A lot of things are written on the fence. A few years ago, the Government submitted a draft law to the Duma, the question of constitutionality arose and it turned out that the government had submitted a request to the Constitutional Court in advance (for a year) and the decision arrived in time only for consideration in the Duma. This was announced on TV by a government representative in the Duma, commenting on the discussion of the law in the Duma.
  • parusnik 11 March 2020 15: 58 New
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    The main joke on April 22, of two evils, again have to choose the lesser ..
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      Quote: parusnik
      of two evils, again have to choose the lesser ..

      In fact, there is no choice, for resources are very limited (“It was better already” (Armenian Radio)). If anyone wants to speculate, then this is their right. But always everyone who argues should remember that the coin has two sides, not one, so there is no third.
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        oh yes ... the main thing is to understand that they slip us ...
  • Plowman 11 March 2020 16: 32 New
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    Putin did not formulate that we will build again .... does not know or hides ... 25 years is not a short time .. but things are still there ..
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      Quote: Plowman
      25 years is not a short time .. but things are still there ..

      For history, 25 years is not a deadline at all. At what point is the "cart" we have not yet seen, so to judge this is not possible. It is very difficult to improve (in the economic sense) our situation, but to bring down it is quite easy - anyone can handle it.
      Quote: Plowman
      Putin did not formulate that we will build again ....

      Again we will build communism. But not for everyone.
  • Radikal 11 March 2020 17: 12 New
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    Quote: For example
    You gathered like-minded people around you. But thank God, you are a minority of our society. And only one of the minority groups.
    You can’t even agree among themselves.
    You have nothing to offer.

    Most of your supporters gladly pour dirt on the government, but do not offer anything themselves.
    You are looking for who and where stumbled and tear to pieces of those who have a different opinion.

    In general, your site has turned into a yellow press with your efforts. hi
    Still a line in the budget and life was a success. laughing good

    Why are you hysterical and flood here if "the site has turned into a yellow press"? winked wassat
  • samarin1969 11 March 2020 17: 22 New
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    And why is this yesterday’s “flight to eternity?” Dear author, it could be wrong. Anyone can do “our” omnipotent show media. Badminton lover went to Urya! ... They could spin any “general manager” Governor "....
    Too many economic and political projects with a mega-budget are far from the "act of accepted work." And there you can’t see the ends ... Someone needs to answer for this to the shadow elites. And future generations of the people can regain subjectivity. ...
    What comes next, I hope not ... wow. bully
    1. flicker 12 March 2020 11: 46 New
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      Anyone can promote "our" omnipotent show media.
      True, Ukraine is an example: yesterday, the comedian pianist is a virtuoso, and today is the president, who (according to Goncharuk) has “emptiness and fog” in his head. We also have a similar virtuoso, but he is more on mattresses, his name is Shenderovich.
      Omnipotent show media can promote anyone, but under the CONDITIONS, if Putin will not be nominated. Putin’s personality resets their “omnipotence”. So the Volodin and others like it howl.
  • protoss 11 March 2020 18: 13 New
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    but in my opinion it’s even better. without any muddy schemes with the state council, etc.
    in general, it is necessary to insert in the constitution a clause that the president of the Russian Federation is the gdp without any elections and terms.
    and don’t have to spend money on all this elective props.
  • Pilat2009 11 March 2020 18: 20 New
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    But what about a lot of amendments to the US Constitution? No, did not hear?

    The permanent presidency is not. The creation of the State Council is not. By the way, can you tell me why they have candidates for replacement, but we don’t? And why the president can’t get the hell out and shoot the congress there?
    1. flicker 12 March 2020 01: 08 New
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      By the way, do not tell me why they have candidates for replacement, but we don’t?
      Because after Roosevelt all the presidents were nobody and there was no way to call them. America steers capital, he is the elite.
      Do you want us to have it?
      1. CT-55_11-9009 18 March 2020 00: 44 New
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        Quote: flicker
        Because after Roosevelt all the presidents were nobody and there was no way to call them. America steers capital, he is the elite.
        Do you want us to have it?

        Duc already. Minimum - 20 years. Rather, from the very beginning of the 90s.
  • Pilat2009 11 March 2020 18: 22 New
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    Quote: iouris
    Quote: Plowman
    25 years is not a short time .. but things are still there ..

    For history, 25 years is not a deadline at all. At what point is the "cart" we have not yet seen, so to judge this is not possible. It is very difficult to improve (in the economic sense) our situation, but to bring down it is quite easy - anyone can handle it.
    Quote: Plowman
    Putin did not formulate that we will build again ....

    Again we will build communism. But not for everyone.

    What will happen to the motherland and to us ....
    1. Sklendarka 11 March 2020 18: 58 New
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      We will grow old and ... ,, we will cast our bast shoes behind the icon ''