The US Department of Defense called the condition for the delivery of Patriot systems to Turkey


The original position on the sale of arms of Turkey voiced in the United States. First of all, it was about Patriot anti-aircraft missile systems. Earlier it became known that Ankara requested from Washington the supply of such air defense systems, but the US authorities refused to complete the transaction. Then Turkey, as Erdogan stated, turned to Russia and acquired from it S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems.


Speaking at a briefing, US Department of Defense spokesman Jonathan Hoffman said the US was ready to deliver the Patriot to the Turks if Ankara met one condition.

Hoffman:

The Minister (Esper Defense) clearly outlined the position. It consists in the fact that Turkey will not be able to get a Patriot air defense system if it does not return the S-400 Triumph to (Russia).

Recall that earlier, the Turkish president allegedly ostensibly softened Washington’s stance on Patriot supplies for the needs of Turkey’s air defense.

It is known that the Turkish Armed Forces will begin the full deployment of Russian-made S-400 complexes in April. Initially, it was reported that Russian specialists would arrive in Turkey to instruct the Turkish military in terms of preparing for the deployment of combat alert systems.
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  1. Vladimir_2U 11 March 2020 06: 22 New
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    if he doesn’t return (Russia) the S-400 Triumph.
    Which return ?! Tomatoes are already eaten! And it’s funny and sad.
    1. Victor_B 11 March 2020 06: 25 New
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      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      Tomatoes are already eaten!

      EMNIP, S-400 were sold on credit.
      We gave a loan.
      1. Fedorov 11 March 2020 06: 29 New
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        Only now nobody announced the conditions of the loan.
      2. Vladimir_2U 11 March 2020 06: 30 New
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        So the Turks are calculated with what?
        1. Tusv 11 March 2020 06: 54 New
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          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          So the Turks are calculated with what?

          The advance in bucks has already been paid. The rest is wooden, which they somehow need to buy from us or sell something for rubles
      3. Mountain shooter 11 March 2020 06: 32 New
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        Quote: Victor_B

        EMNIP, S-400 were sold on CREDIT

        https://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/news/2017/12/21/746138-turtsiya-s-400
        Well, in half. And the Turks have already paid for real money. So - not quite on credit ... Return - let them return, good weapons, they will come in handy. And money? ... what money?
      4. Tusv 11 March 2020 06: 42 New
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        Quote: Victor_B
        S-400 were sold on credit.

        And according to our laws, the period for returning the goods has passed. Credit cannot be canceled. But they will not pay, squeeze Istanbul in the Basmanny court
        1. bessmertniy 11 March 2020 07: 01 New
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          The penalty, of course, must be taken from them, but if they really will return, then, in my opinion, Iran was very interested in these complexes. what
        2. Mitroha 11 March 2020 07: 22 New
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          USA as a cheap whore trying to get married, then I will give, then I will not give, then I will give but after the wedding. As in the old joke "And these people forbade us to pick our nose"
        3. Starover_Z 11 March 2020 09: 33 New
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          Quote: Tusv
          Quote: Victor_B
          S-400 were sold on credit.

          And according to our laws, the period for returning the goods has passed. Credit cannot be canceled. But they will not pay, squeeze Istanbul in the Basmanny court

          And they also have in their local laws the primacy of foreign laws over Turkish ?! wink
  2. Victor_B 11 March 2020 06: 23 New
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    I understand that the S-400 is against American aircraft, and the Patriot is against ours.
    1. Fedorov 11 March 2020 06: 33 New
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      And the electronics do not care, "friend or foe" did not answer and go. Well, in my opinion, "Petriot is a rare ugliness compared to even the extreme S-300s.
      1. Victor_B 11 March 2020 06: 36 New
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        And the electronics do not care, "friend or foe" did not answer and go.

        There is an opinion (c) that we, the Patriots of America, can block the S-400.
        Those. S-400 refuses to shoot at ours, and Patriot at them.
        1. Fedorov 11 March 2020 06: 43 New
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          Well, it’s lying, “bookmarks in chips of this level are unlikely. It’s easier to fly to the moon. In the S-300, I’m not familiar with the S-400, there is the hardware of the electronics engine, it does not care for all the satellites and hackers. works.
          1. SovAr238A 11 March 2020 08: 17 New
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            Quote: Fedorov
            Well, it’s lying, “bookmarks in chips of this level are unlikely. It’s easier to fly to the moon. In the S-300, I’m not familiar with the S-400, there is the hardware of the electronics engine, it does not care for all the satellites and hackers. works.


            I understand that you never heard of the Krotal air defense system in Iraq?
            1. Santa Fe 11 March 2020 19: 34 New
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              Crotal in Iraq you never heard?

              Is there anything more serious than urban legends?
              1. SovAr238A 11 March 2020 22: 18 New
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                Quote: Santa Fe

                Is there anything more serious than urban legends?


                Well, yes, Iraq - did not release a single one ...
                Libya did not release a single one during the raid, although 38 planes from America and CoralSi actually flew in Libyan air, destroying half of the air defense and one air base ...
                Why do we need silent air defense when planes fly to bomb this very air defense?
                You didn’t ask yourself this question?


                Threat
                Oleg, why did you change your shoes so much in 2,5 years? practically on the fly?

                Your article for 2017.
                https://topwar.ru/121029-samoe-neeffektivnoe-vooruzhenie.html
                your comment scored 31 pluses ...
                1. Santa Fe 11 March 2020 22: 33 New
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                  So where is the bookmark information in Krotaly

                  And why did you decide Libyan air defense did not launch a single anti-aircraft missile
                  1. SovAr238A 11 March 2020 22: 51 New
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                    Quote: Santa Fe
                    So where is the bookmark information in Krotaly

                    And why did you decide Libyan air defense did not launch a single anti-aircraft missile


                    Because absolutely everyone spoke about this in the mid-90s.
                    And ours and not ours ...


                    And yes, Libyan air defense did not launch a single missile ..

                    The loss of the F-111 is a loss of control of the aircraft, and not shooting at it.
                    1. Santa Fe 11 March 2020 23: 12 New
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                      American planes went over their goals in Tripoli. It was reported that some Libyan soldiers in fear and bewilderment left their posts, and the officers were in no hurry to give orders. Also, the Libyan fighters did not manage to fly in the air to challenge the attacking bombers.

                      It turns out bookmarks were in all Soviet and French zrk and in fighters. Or everything was simpler - the Libyans dropped their weapons and fled

                      In the 90s they talked a lot and charged the cans from the TV with Chumak. There are no studies and at least some clear arguments about bookmarks
    2. Russobel 11 March 2020 07: 11 New
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      I understand that the S-400 is against American aircraft, and the Patriot is against ours.

      Ha ha If with this approach, it’s not something that will crack, but will break.
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  4. Ravil_Asnafovich 11 March 2020 06: 29 New
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    We need to offer them something else, so that they wouldn’t buy anything from the merikatos.
    1. bessmertniy 11 March 2020 07: 04 New
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      We can organize large batches of manure for them to grow tomatoes. wink Americans probably will not be able to offer better manure conditions. winked
  5. rocket757 11 March 2020 06: 37 New
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    The Minister (Esper Defense) clearly outlined the position. It consists in the fact that Turkey will not be able to get a Patriot air defense system if it does not return the S-400 Triumph to (Russia).

    BEAUTIFUL! Stripes are molos! However, the "Sultan" is also not easy .... hit all hit!
  6. Graz 11 March 2020 06: 45 New
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    Well, the Yankees can promise anything. Promises do not rust after them, but fulfilling promises is more difficult.
  7. aszzz888 11 March 2020 07: 08 New
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    Ankara requested Washington to supply such air defense systems
    And what, Syria bombing the Turks in their territory? bully
  8. Engineer Schukin 11 March 2020 07: 17 New
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    Quote: Tusv
    Quote: Vladimir_2U
    So the Turks are calculated with what?

    The advance in bucks has already been paid. The rest is wooden, which they somehow need to buy from us or sell something for rubles

    For rubles? Which are now 10% down?
    What is the benefit for us if, when paying in rubles, we simply lose all profit. But the Turks, on the contrary, it’s easier and easier to buy rubles for payment.
  9. Narak-zempo 11 March 2020 08: 53 New
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    Why do they need a Patriot, if they already have an S-400? It’s the same as changing the bentley for shokh.
  10. Zaurbek 11 March 2020 09: 01 New
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    In general, the solution is good. Let C400 be returned and money left with us as compensation.
  11. Retvizan 8 11 March 2020 09: 07 New
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    ... "Return C 400 back to Russia" ...
    And Erdogan should expel all Russian tourists from the country and not let him in anymore, because these are also potential spies of Moscow!)))))
  12. voyaka uh 11 March 2020 11: 14 New
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    S-400, apparently, will guard the residence of Erdogan. Against own aviation (suddenly there was a “mole” - an ideologically unreliable pilot?)
    But the Patriot is deployed against Syria, Greece, Israel, in short - external factors.
  13. lvov_aleksey 11 March 2020 18: 20 New
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    no one will return grandmothers to them, the contract is executed on deliveries !!!
  14. Santa Fe 11 March 2020 19: 22 New
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    Why do the Turks beg to put them Patriots, if there are S-400s
    1. SovAr238A 11 March 2020 22: 20 New
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      Quote: Santa Fe
      Why do the Turks beg to put them Patriots, if there are S-400s


      Is such a capricious question from you?

      Did you sell your account too?
      1. Santa Fe 11 March 2020 22: 38 New
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        What is he capricious

        Turkey has a real opportunity to purchase S-400 in any necessary quantities, which, according to experts, are superior to the Patriot in everything, just recently it “distinguished itself” again. Failed to repel the attack on the Saudi plant

        Why do the Turks ask them to put the Patriots and run into another batch of American mocking statements
        1. SovAr238A 11 March 2020 23: 14 New
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          Quote: Santa Fe
          What is he capricious

          Turkey has a real opportunity to purchase S-400 in any necessary quantities, which, according to experts, are superior to the Patriot in everything, just recently it “distinguished itself” again. Failed to repel the attack on the Saudi plant

          Why do the Turks ask them to put the Patriots and run into another batch of American mocking statements


          The opinion of which experts?
          Patriot fought in several wars.
          S-400 has never fought.
          Or do you think that Americans do not work on mistakes? Are they “dumb” in your head too?

          About the factory.
          where does the factory stand?
          Near the Persian Gulf?
          How many are there from the borders of the Hussites?
          500 kilometers of bare desert?
          Or do you also think that Iran’s OTR and BR, located 150km away, are secondary goals for the Saudis?

          If a month later the Saudis conducted a large-scale operation to search for those who actually launched these drones from Saudi territory?
          Traitors were local.
          From a distance of 50 kilometers, drones flying at low altitude will by no means be seen by radars "vigilant" in the other direction ...

          You imagine - the launch of OTR from the territory of Balakovo in the direction of the Syzransky, Novokuybyshevsky and Kuibyshevsky refineries ... I guarantee - everyone will fly quickly and accurately. And not one will be shot down.
          And why? Because. that no one controls this direction ...

          So it is here.
          1. Santa Fe 11 March 2020 23: 16 New
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            All clear. thanks
          2. Santa Fe 11 March 2020 23: 27 New
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            You know all the same, the question remains

            If the Turks already have systems for a similar purpose, with clearly contrived characteristics, why do they tear their throats in an attempt to get a Patriot?

            After all, it cannot be that where the Patriot is needed, the S-400 is completely unacceptable

            Moreover, the Patriot is clearly not a standard and its combat use is more likely an anti-advertisement. fails tasks every other time (attacks by Iranian BRs on Iraqi bases or Skud getting into a barrack with US soldiers in 1991)