MH17 trial: what happened on the first day of the trial


In the Netherlands, the first court session was held in the case of the fall of the liner MH17, which was shot down in the sky over the Donbass. The defendants did not appear at him. The prosecutor outlined the position of the prosecution.


The chairman of the court, Hendrik Stenhuis, first noted that, despite all the measures taken, not one of the four people who were charged with the trial appeared. Recall that the former Minister of Defense of the Donetsk People’s Republic Igor Girkin (Strelkov), as well as Sergey Dubinsky, Oleg Pulatov and Leonid Kharchenko are accused of involvement in organizing a strike on the plane. The first three accused are citizens of Russia, Kharchenko is a citizen of Ukraine.

Only Oleg Pulatov is represented by a lawyer, all other accused subpoenas and messages on social networks were ignored. However, according to the judge, this will not become an obstacle to the process - the accused will be tried in absentia. The joint investigation team, which submitted the case file to the court, included representatives from Australia, Belgium, the Netherlands, Malaysia and Ukraine. Russia was not allowed to investigate the tragedy as part of the SSG, and therefore does not consider the ongoing trial to be legitimate.

After the judge’s speech, prosecutor Vard Ferdinandusse, representing the prosecution, took the floor. He repeated the earlier voiced version of the investigation - the Malaysian plane was allegedly shot down by a missile fired from the Buk anti-aircraft missile system belonging to the 53rd anti-aircraft missile brigade of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. The air defense systems were allegedly transferred to the Donbass, and then they were just as quickly taken to the brigade’s permanent deployment area. The prosecution also believes that the crew of the Buk air defense system was Russian.

Despite the fact that journalist Max van der Werff published part of the documents of the Joint Investigative Group, including a letter from the Netherlands intelligence service, which stated the absence of Buk air defense systems in 2014 in the area of ​​the aircraft’s shooting down, the investigation still ended up accepted the version that the liner was shot down by the Russian Buk, and submitted it to the court.

Prosecutor Ferdinandusse also emphasized that the accused should be held accountable for their actions in any case, even if the plane was shot down by mistake, and not intentionally. In response, the lawyer of Oleg Pulatov, the only accused who decided to participate in the trial, albeit “remotely”, hiring lawyers, made a statement about the non-involvement of his client in the tragedy with the Malaysian plane. Pulatov’s defense also focused on the fact that Ukraine did not close its airspace for aircraft, despite the fact that air defense systems were operating in the Donbass region.

Lawyer Peter Langstraat, representing the interests of the victims, said that now he and his colleagues are protecting 400 relatives of people killed in a plane strike. In addition to this process, they will also file civil suits against Malaysian Airlines.

The defendants chose the right strategy to not go to court in person. In the event of a personal appearance, they would be arrested and are unlikely to have already left the Dutch prison. Moreover, the process is openly political in nature, which was already clear at the stage of the investigation: Russia was not included in the Joint Investigative Group, and investigators did not take into account the materials of alternative investigations, and even the data of the Dutch intelligence, as we see, did not become a weighty argument in favor of rejecting the version with the Russian Buk.

Independent experts make various assumptions about the timing of the trial. Most Russian and foreign experts agree that the process will take several years. It will take the court in The Hague about five years to examine all the circumstances of the case, listen to the arguments of the parties, make a decision and pronounce sentences.
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  1. Alien From 10 March 2020 11: 22 New
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    Everything that happened on the first day of the trial, pure clowning!
    1. Kuroneko 10 March 2020 11: 59 New
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      Quote: Alien From
      Everything that happened on the first day of the trial, pure clowning!

      Clowning even in Nuremberg at one time was higher than the roof. But then, as the victorious party (and the most powerful state at that time in the world) - who would try not to listen to the Soviet delegation!
      Although, I repeat, even then there were a lot of clownery. For reasons that were rather "small" for the USSR and Stalin, of course, they were of little interest to us (the "allies" mainly tried to clean up the most obvious "tails" remaining from cooperation with the Third Reich).
      But very revealing. The trial of the same Doenitz is worth remembering.
      1. Vyacheslav Viktorovich 10 March 2020 12: 06 New
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        Quote: Kuroneko
        who would try not to listen to the Soviet delegation!
        Katyn did not charge the Nazis, although the Soviet delegation insisted.
        1. Kuroneko 10 March 2020 12: 12 New
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          For the USSR, then this was not particularly important. In the end, it was Stalin who again presented Poland with the Pshek who was once again loved by Poland (Churchill wanted to tear it apart). And even with fat territorial makeweights. True, the Teshinskaya oblast did not get them anymore, huh.
          1. Vyacheslav Viktorovich 10 March 2020 12: 14 New
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            Quote: Kuroneko
            For the USSR, then this was not particularly important.
            (...) On March 18, Rudenko sent a sharp protest to the tribunal, which said:

            This question has great fundamental importance for the whole process (...)
            1. Kuroneko 10 March 2020 12: 16 New
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              Quote: Vyacheslav Viktorovich
              On March 18, Rudenko sent a sharp protest to the tribunal, which said:
              This question is of great fundamental importance for the whole process (...)

              Had BIG - Stalin would have designated him that way. And in those years, not to listen to Stalin, if the matter is really IMPORTANT, no one dared.
              1. Vyacheslav Viktorovich 10 March 2020 12: 19 New
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                I’m bringing you the documents, and you give me your opinion about as it was in those years.
                1. Kuroneko 10 March 2020 12: 22 New
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                  Not documents, but just quotes of, for that matter (not even scans), and what did they lead to? If on the subject of the Nuremberg clowning, then this only agrees with my starting point, right?
                  1. Vyacheslav Viktorovich 10 March 2020 12: 26 New
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                    Quote: Kuroneko
                    and what did they lead to?
                    I made quotations specific pieces of your posts, to which I brought counterarguments.
          2. Yurahip 10 March 2020 18: 06 New
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            If you look at the maps of 39 years and 45 years, you can see that Comrade Stalin cut off a piece from Poland from the east from Poland, but cut to it about the same piece from the west at the expense of Germany. Bash to bash!
        2. Octopus 10 March 2020 14: 33 New
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          Quote: Vyacheslav Viktorovich
          Katyn did not begin to charge Nazis, although the Soviet delegation insisted

          The Soviet delegation wanted a lot. Mine, for example, attract.
      2. Octopus 10 March 2020 14: 13 New
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        Quote: Kuroneko
        Clowning and in Nuremberg at one time was above the roof

        Yes.
        Quote: Kuroneko
        who would try not to listen to the Soviet delegation!

        About the Soviet delegation by that time had already begun to understand something. So most of her wishes played. The supreme task - to turn Nuremberg into a trial of fascism as the highest manifestation of imperialism - was solved only in the newspaper Pravda.
        Quote: Kuroneko
        "allies" basically tried to clean up the most obvious "tails" left over from cooperation with the Third Reich

        That is yes. And how.
        1. Kuroneko 10 March 2020 16: 15 New
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          Quote: Octopus
          That is yes. And how.

          For understanding the essence of the main clowning, it’s a plus (although for me personally it’s somehow violet).
          And I didn’t just mention Dönitz. ^ _ ^ For the same States in that war were no less cannibalistic in an underwater war.
          1. Octopus 10 March 2020 17: 04 New
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            Quote: Kuroneko
            And I didn’t just mention Dönitz

            Yes, what does the same Nimitz - one of the few honest people - said it directly, and during the trial, and not in his memoirs.

            Nonetheless. Dönitz was convicted - Lockwood is not. Goering condemned - Harris no. Ribentrop condemned - No molotov. Justice - it is.
            1. chenia 10 March 2020 17: 36 New
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              Quote: Octopus
              Ribentrop convicted - No molotov


              But what was Molotov attracted to? Or do you seriously believe that Pact is the source of WWII?
              1. Kuroneko 10 March 2020 18: 39 New
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                Quote: chenia
                Or do you seriously believe that Pact is the source of WWII?

                It is rather a question for the psheks, licking their lips at the Teshinsky region. = 3
                But they have now for such thoughts quite legally threatened.
            2. Kuroneko 10 March 2020 18: 35 New
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              Quote: Octopus
              moreover, the very same Nimitz - one of the few honest people - spoke directly, moreover during the trial, and not in his memoirs.

              Already rewrite even his role in court and wordsа. I recently went over articles on the internet.
              Nimitz, I note, is DARK not an angel. But because of this, Dönitz fully understood. The whole difference is who won and who judges whom, alas.
              1. Octopus 11 March 2020 01: 24 New
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                Quote: Kuroneko
                Nimitz, I note, DALECO himself is not an angel

                Very far from idealizing Nimitz. Angels of war do not win. But telling the truth is always good. Those wishing to do this were in considerable shortage.
                Quote: Kuroneko
                The whole difference is who won and who judges whom, alas.

                )))

                This (so far) is the key difference between the Dutch vessels from Nuremberg.
    2. Insurgent 10 March 2020 12: 08 New
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      Quote: Alien From
      Everything that happened on the first day of the trial, pure clowning!

      Как day the trial began, and so it will end.

    3. Basil50 10 March 2020 16: 58 New
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      frome
      But pay attention, just a few hours after the plane was shot down in Europe, the accusation was voiced and then FIVE YEARS they studied something there.
      It is interesting that the outskirts are also a claimant
      1. Alien From 10 March 2020 17: 39 New
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        I agree with you! This case is an example of the complete neglect of all international / interethnic agreements by the West!
    4. NF68 10 March 2020 17: 15 New
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      Quote: Alien From
      Everything that happened on the first day of the trial, pure clowning!


      The whole process will be similar to clowning with pulling owls on globes.
  2. 210ox 10 March 2020 11: 24 New
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    Personally, this trial is not interesting to me. What and how and what day is happening.
  3. Honest Citizen 10 March 2020 11: 31 New
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    Prosecutor Ferdinandusse also emphasized that defendants should answer for your actions anyway, even if the plane was shot down by mistake, and not intentionally.

    Those. if sentenced to death - will they send killers? Or does the prosecutor offer to kidnap people and transfer them to prison?
    Ah yes the prosecutor!
    1. Octopus 10 March 2020 14: 51 New
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      if sentenced to death - will they send killers? Or does the prosecutor offer to kidnap people and transfer them to prison?

      Yes, you grasped the problem correctly. Jews would have done so in the old days. But it is unlikely that such feats can be expected from the Dutch.
  4. Strashila 10 March 2020 11: 33 New
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    “Especially since the process is openly political in nature,” there is actually nothing surprising here, Russia was appointed guilty back then when the Boeing actually fell.
    The West will stupidly cove its interpretation, not recognizing the obvious facts.
    To admit the truth is how many government officials in the West will immediately be prosecuted for concealment and fraud, how many lawsuits will arise, not only from those injured in the plane crash, but also from the business that incurs losses from far-fetched politicized sanctions.
  5. kind 10 March 2020 11: 36 New
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    [b] a letter from the Netherlands intelligence service stating the absence of Buk air defense systems in 2014 in the area of ​​the aircraft’s downfall, the investigation nevertheless ultimately accepted the version that the airliner was shot down by the Russian Buk and submitted it to court.

    We will make you guilty, even if you are not guilty. This is the main position of this court, it cannot be called a court, because the court must be impartial.
  6. g1washntwn 10 March 2020 11: 43 New
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    Another 5 years will twist their barrel organ. Then they will make accusations in absentia ... and then what? For a request for extradition, it will still be necessary to provide materials that they refused to issue before the court. But they will not provide it — they will be shown the path to the forest through the edge of the forest. Initially, it was clear that this was a provocation, and the “investigation and trial” was a propaganda freak show.
  7. place 10 March 2020 11: 48 New
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    Who will reckon with politicians who cannot solve the problems of their country without inciting foreign sanctions? And even publicly proud that "sanctions are in our favor"? I liked how flogged with rods, get another portion .....
    We are pressed for our own benefit, for what we do for ourselves is worse than any “process in the Netherlands”. For example, “black Monday” in the economy is a direct result of not sanctions and not some kind of courts, but its own policy in the extractive industry.
  8. Vyacheslav Viktorovich 10 March 2020 11: 51 New
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    social media posts ignored
    An article about MH17 will not be considered complete unless social networks are mentioned in it in at least some context.
  9. Aleks2048 10 March 2020 11: 54 New
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    Only one thing is interesting. Why, with such a position of the Russian Federation, lawyers appeared in court? If we deny the legitimacy of the process, then you don’t need to go to it at all. request
    1. Avior 10 March 2020 12: 41 New
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      Lawyers came from a specific person, and not from the Russian Federation.
      Officially, the Russian Federation is not blamed.
      1. Octopus 10 March 2020 14: 52 New
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        Lawyers came from a specific person, not from the Russian Federation

        For a circus it's too thin. It is hard to believe that a Russian citizen is going to hire lawyers for The Hague across from the position of the Foreign Ministry.
        1. Liam 10 March 2020 15: 03 New
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          For a circus it's too thin

          A lawyer in a criminal case has a lot of rights ... for example, getting acquainted with the materials thereof .. the applications are different, which can delay the process. A useful figure in general
          1. Octopus 10 March 2020 15: 08 New
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            Generally useful figure

            ))
            Maybe you're right. But it would be smarter to hire a lawyer for a Ukrainian, his country recognized this court.
            1. Liam 10 March 2020 15: 33 New
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              Russia also recognized. The decision may not recognize, but the court itself recognizes)
              1. Octopus 10 March 2020 16: 06 New
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                Quote: Liam
                Russia also recognized

                It seems that we have discussed this in great detail.
                1. Liam 10 March 2020 16: 11 New
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                  It was the case. And the court in absentia, too
  10. Pavel57 10 March 2020 11: 55 New
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    The most democratic court.
    1. Graduate student 10 March 2020 12: 13 New
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      The most biased court, with a bias in Russophobia.
  11. carstorm 11 10 March 2020 11: 58 New
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    Prosecutor Ferdinandyusset also emphasized that the accused should be held accountable for their actions in any case, even if the plane was shot down by mistake, and not intentionally, and this phrase actually says that it will be there))) decided to please everyone. they are found guilty but without intent))) 99 percent sure that the court decision will be so. Well, of course, in other words)))
  12. Graduate student 10 March 2020 12: 09 New
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    The chairman of the court, Hendrik Stenhuis, first noted that, despite all the measures taken, not one of the four people who were indicted had appeared in court.

    Not only is the whole process a political show directed against Russia, they also want to blame the innocent. They are not looking for the guilty. In Ukraine, the guilty, in Kiev, let them look for the perpetrators of the tragedy.
    1. Honest Citizen 10 March 2020 14: 01 New
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      In Ukraine, the guilty, in Kiev, let them look for the perpetrators of the tragedy.

      In Ukraine, no way! Because if you find, suddenly, as always, the perpetrators in Ukraine, then the question will arise, and Poroshenko’s patrons in the EU and the USA - and this is another caliber.
      1. cniza 10 March 2020 14: 32 New
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        And sooner or later he will rise ...
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    3. cniza 10 March 2020 14: 35 New
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      Quote: Graduate student
      They are not looking for the guilty. In Ukraine, the guilty, in Kiev, let them look for the perpetrators of the tragedy.


      There are only performers, we need to take the organizers and customers above.
  13. rocket757 10 March 2020 12: 24 New
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    MH17 trial: what happened on the first day of the trial

    Apparently, this is for a long time.
    And there, either the donkey will accumulate ... or, again, someone else will glue the flippers.
    1. cniza 10 March 2020 14: 33 New
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      Everything will depend on the political wind ...
      1. rocket757 10 March 2020 14: 44 New
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        More than a storm in a glass ... no, not pulled.
        1. cniza 10 March 2020 14: 47 New
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          But the paper is cooked up to order and will give the right solution ...
          1. rocket757 10 March 2020 14: 52 New
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            And the office to write papers is much more! For every color and taste, at the request of the customer.
            1. cniza 10 March 2020 14: 54 New
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              And for how many years they provided themselves with this "non-dusty" work ...
              1. rocket757 10 March 2020 14: 58 New
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                Wow, they can now get puffed and cheeks puffed up ...
                Of course, it bothers the average man, but there are also those masters there who know how to “cheer up” the sales of the most rotten Temko ...
                The layman was not picky, this fact is sad.
                1. cniza 10 March 2020 15: 00 New
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                  Quote: rocket757

                  The layman was not picky


                  Yes, and consumes all nonsense with pleasure ...
  14. Gardamir 10 March 2020 12: 32 New
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    When judging the citizens of Russia, they judge the whole of Russia. It was also the case with doping when the athletes were blamed. But the Kremlin, as always, has nothing to do with it.
    But many of the writers here are patriots.
    1. businessv 10 March 2020 13: 05 New
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      Quote: Gardamir
      But many of the writers here are patriots.

      Calling to go to The Hague? End the thought of your post, colleague, or you just wave your shoulders, you accuse us of patriotism (which I personally see only as a plus and consider myself a patriot), expose yourself in the halo of truth-seeker and cannibalist, and then everyone should think out for himself ?! The beginning of the post is for health, which is difficult to disagree with, but there is simply no end, and how do you put +? hi
      1. Gardamir 10 March 2020 14: 36 New
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        God forbid, call to the Hague. These issues should be decided by the state.
        As for the patriots, we all love Russia not completely. For example, I do not like Russia, Shuvalov, Rottenberg, Mishustin ...
        1. businessv 10 March 2020 22: 32 New
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          Quote: Gardamir
          we all love Russia not completely. For example, I do not like Russia, Shuvalov, Rottenberg, Mishustin ...

          Wow, how complicated it is for you. It’s easier for me - I just love Russia, and I don’t like oligarchs, officials and liberals.
  15. kiril1246 10 March 2020 12: 56 New
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    Israel is to blame for everything, its fighters covered themselves with a Malaysian airliner and the brave squad could not distinguish between the planes.
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    The Hague Court Will Need About Five Years

    They provided themselves with work for 5 years. And a well-paid job.
  17. businessv 10 March 2020 12: 59 New
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    It will take the court in The Hague about five years to study all the circumstances of the case, listen to the arguments of the parties, make a decision and pronounce sentences.
    What is intended - to wash the process for another five years, and there or donkey, or padish, as in the famous parable. An interesting approach - we will conduct an investigation by the forces of the Netherlands, and we will bring claims to Malaysia! Great invented! We are investigating the matter as minke whales told us, and we will set the score as we see fit.
  18. Vladimir Mashkov 10 March 2020 13: 15 New
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    This is not a court, but a Russophobic court, when Russia and its citizens and supporters were declared guilty in advance from the very beginning, and ALL facts and evidence against this “honest” and “objective” OSG were rejected as inconsequential, and murky “evidence” was taken Russophobic tales and inventions of unknown and unknown source, which cannot be made public (great mystery, but you believe)!
    Being “accused” of this unrighteous “court” is not only dangerous (instantly imprisoned for life), but also stupid: it will mean recognition of this court and accusations.
    And such an enormous amount of paper "investigation" produced for good reason: firstly, to tighten the "court" for many, many years, and secondly, simply hide the truth behind a large number of papers.
    Something completely disappointed in Western sanity and justice!
  19. Ingenegr 10 March 2020 13: 16 New
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    There are no ships. There is a bargain. And our country is surely taking part in this auction. The bargaining is complex, expensive and lengthy.
    I am sure that the situation is known to a narrow circle of people every second. And from all sides. To tell the truth is to open the ax of war. Very big war, more than sure.
    Hence the long-term “investigation” and, most likely, the even longer “trial”.
  20. edeligor 10 March 2020 13: 25 New
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    Today looked DW in connection with this trial. Impressions mass. The most important thing that I personally understood is that our propagandists are only a pale shadow of foreign lands - Why prove that ?! Russian is evil. Dear, this is the Inquisition, not the court! I don’t remember what the German film is called about the beginning of the invasion of Nazi troops in the USSR. Something similar is happening now in the media in the West.
    1. cniza 10 March 2020 14: 31 New
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      Quote: edeligor
      Why prove that ?! Russian is evil. Dear, this is the Inquisition, not the court! I don’t remember what the German film is called about the beginning of the invasion of Nazi troops in the USSR. Something similar is happening now in the media in the West.


      And we are silent and not trying to sue them, WHY? We must sue each of their pearls, especially against journalists, politicians and other zealous people, otherwise we won’t shut their mouths.
      1. edeligor 10 March 2020 14: 43 New
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        And we are silent and not trying to sue them, WHY?

        Exactly, exactly! I am also surprised at the Christian humility of our politicians. One answer is that they consider themselves part of the gold lard, and we ...
        1. cniza 10 March 2020 14: 46 New
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          This is not Christian humility, this is miscalculation and stupidity ...
          1. edeligor 10 March 2020 14: 53 New
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            Moreover, stupidity is PUNISHED! They ALWAYS punished us for the kindness and breadth of the soul. Evil has always come from the West. If even one of our newspapers came out under the headlines that their press prints daily, they would call the UN Security Council. I begin to understand the Korean king - they are only afraid of FORCE!
            1. cniza 10 March 2020 14: 58 New
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              Well S.B. The UN is not so scary, but it would have been condemned for a long time, but we are silent and inactive ...
    2. Avior 10 March 2020 16: 56 New
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      And what do they write?
      Do not throw a link?
  21. cniza 10 March 2020 14: 27 New
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    It will take the court in The Hague about five years to study all the circumstances of the case, listen to the arguments of the parties, make a decision and pronounce sentences.


    Well, yes, unless another command arrives earlier.
  22. Operator 10 March 2020 14: 47 New
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    The most interesting thing is whether the answer will be considered in court by the manufacturer of the Soviet Buk missile, found at the site of the Boeing’s crash, to the official inquiry of the investigation team about the address of the shipment of the rocket from the plant.

    If the Dutch prosecutor does not voice the answer, then the lawyer of one of the accused, who is familiar with the case materials, can do this for him. The factory’s response unambiguously indicates the address of the rocket shipment — the HF Armed Forces of the USSR, located on the territory of the Ukrainian SSR. The subsequent delivery of the Ukrainian missile back to the Russian Federation can only be documented by presenting from the Ukrainian side the corresponding act of acceptance and transfer, which is not the case.

    All other "evidence" of the alleged downing of a Boeing by a Russian missile was taken from the Internet and interception of cellular communications, and therefore are not verified in any way and are not material evidence, unlike a missile.

    It will be possible to close the farce called the International Investigative Group, and it makes sense for the accused to file lawsuits by the Dutch prosecutor's office for compensation for non-pecuniary damage of up to 1 million euros each.
    1. Vyacheslav Viktorovich 10 March 2020 15: 35 New
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      What is surprising is your absolute, limitless, undivided trust in the material evidence, which is, in essence, just a set of sheets of paper with letters and numbers written in the hand of an unknown person, and which is no longer confirmed by any other evidence. Once upon "objective control data" с "gaining altitude by the Ukrainian Air Force" from the same Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation they also piously believed.

      They will consider it. Today, a lady investigator spoke about this in court.
      1. Liam 10 March 2020 15: 39 New
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        Quote: Vyacheslav Viktorovich
        surprisingly

        Especially when the bearer of the "irrefutable evidence" himself says that this is not the original of the magazine, but a "restored copy".
    2. Avior 10 March 2020 15: 41 New
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      . The subsequent delivery of the Ukrainian rocket back to the Russian Federation can only be documented.

      The fact is that the delivery of a rocket to a unit on the territory of the Ukrainian SSR can only be proved by a document, by citing the original act of receiving the transfer, but so far no one has seen such a copy
      1. Operator 10 March 2020 16: 27 New
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        The selection of verified evidence refuting the material evidence (license plate) attached to the case and the official document of the manufacturer are exclusively the problem of the investigation.
        1. Avior 10 March 2020 16: 58 New
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          There was no official document issued by the manufacturer, not even a copy, that the rocket was handed over
          1. Operator 10 March 2020 17: 07 New
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            Yes, yes - a certified paper extract from the records with the official cover letter on the plant letterhead with signature and seal.

            this is not a video / audio file you fucked in photoshop laughing
  23. Dimy4 10 March 2020 15: 09 New
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    Why are they embarrassed to call the entire 53 missile brigade?
  24. Operator 10 March 2020 16: 19 New
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    Quote: Vyacheslav Viktorovich
    Amazingly your absolute, boundless, undivided trust in the material evidence.

    Do not confuse God's gift (a paper document in all form, received from a legal entity at the official request of the investigation) with scrambled eggs (muddy photos and videos from the Internet and unknown to anyone received "radio interception").

    Such fundamentally unverifiable scrambled eggs can now be cut on the knee in any quantity and for all tastes.

    I was especially touched by the video, which shows the Buka self-propelled launcher (not equipped with all-round video cameras) moving in reverse in a city building at a speed of at least 40 km / h (since if it were moving forward it would be real, it would moving away from the place where the Boeing fell).

    Scrolling video backwards - top trick laughing
  25. Operator 10 March 2020 22: 08 New
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    The Dutch opened the court session yesterday, and today they closed it for two weeks - they read the comments on the VO laughing
  26. Georgievic 11 March 2020 00: 08 New
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    "... It will take about five years for the court in The Hague to study all the circumstances of the case, listen to the arguments of the parties ....." The circus left, the clowns remained! Paskuda these Dutch!
  27. tolmachiev51 11 March 2020 03: 46 New
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    The decision of the "court" will be brought up from Fashington by the end of the process !!!
  28. aszzz888 12 March 2020 01: 40 New
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    It will take the court in The Hague about five years to study all the circumstances of the case, listen to the arguments of the parties, make a decision and pronounce sentences.
    Already "made", printed and waiting in the wings. The prosecutor yourself understand who.