The USA has thrown B-2 Spirit bombers to Europe

The U.S. Air Force deployed B-2 Spirit strategic stealth bombers to Europe. This is stated in a press release from the US European Command (EUCOM).

Bombers on Monday flew from an air base in Missouri (USA) to an air base in the Portuguese Azores. During the flight, the B-2 was refueled in the air using KC-10 Extender refueling aircraft. The number of B-2s transferred to Europe is not called. The main task is to get acquainted with the European theater of operations.

Aircraft will operate at various military facilities in the area of ​​responsibility of the European Command. The transfer of strategic bombers allows crew members to get acquainted with the European theater and shows the support of allies and partners from the United States

- said in a press release.

The American stealth bomber B-2 Spirit is built according to the "flying wing" scheme, it can carry both conventional and thermonuclear charges. Its creation began in the late 1970's and as the work continued, the costs of the project continued to grow. If the first aircraft cost 737 millions of dollars, after improvements this amount increased to 929 millions. After another improvement in the 1997 year, the B-2 Spirit began to cost 2,1 a billion dollars apiece.

It is reported that in the 1988-1999 years the 21 B-2 Spirit aircraft was produced, and 20 of them are now in service with the US Air Force.

Earlier, the U.S. Air Force command reported that as new B-21 Raider bombers came into service, all B-1 Lancer and B-2 Spirit planes would be decommissioned, while older B-52 Stratofortresss would remain in service until the 50's.

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[Den717]

provides an opportunity for crew members to get acquainted with the European theater and shows the support of allies and partners from the United States
- said in a press release.

Therefore, it is necessary to say in our press release that in order to train parts and formations, some data is entered into some heads ... of course, without going into details - where and which ... and the composition of duty shifts competes in the speed and accuracy of hitting a finger with a button

[To be or not to be]

1.B-2 from the 509th Bomb Wing and 131st Bomb Wing at Whiteman Air Force Base, Mo.,
KC-10s from the 305th Air Mobility Wing at Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst, NJ,
2. B-2 bombers will take part in the NATO exercises Defender Europe-2020.
3. The 65th ground service group is deployed at the Lagens airbase, which provides support in combat operations, providing expeditionary movements of fighters, other combat aircraft, as well as global communication with the commanders of combat units.

[Den717]

Quote: To be or not to be

1.B-2 from the 509th Bomb Wing and 131st Bomb Wing at Whiteman Air Force Base, Mo.,
KC-10s from the 305th Air Mobility Wing at Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst, NJ,

Why all this? To the fact that aviation personnel of nuclear weapons carriers are introduced to the European promising theater of operations? No brainer. We are doing exactly the same thing. Flyers need to imagine and navigate the territory of their actions. So they run them around. News? No. They just make us nervous, we have to make them nervous. And then invite their bunker builders to share indirect advertising revenue

[To be or not to be]

Two B-2 Spirit bombers with MISTY12 and MISTY13

[Piramidon]

Quote: To be or not to be

Two B-2 Spirit bombers with MISTY12 and MISTY13

Pure BOMBERS even with guided bombs, against a country with powerful air defense - this is not even funny. Their B-2 may still pose a threat to all the so-called armed units with MANPADS.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Piramidon

Pure BOMBERS even with guided bombs, against a country with powerful air defense - this is not even funny. Their B-2 may still pose a threat to all the so-called armed units with MANPADS

V-2 can carry high-precision KR AGM-158 JASSM, up to a maximum of 16 pieces on board
Yes, and air defense systems are capable of "piercing" while walking at low altitude - the entire territory cannot be covered with a stockade of radar and air defense systems

[aglet]

about this powerful air defense, the cartoons show only that it’s not lit up anywhere

[grandfather_Kostya]

I'm sure Berlin and Dresden are going to bomb.

[Amateur]

US Air Force transferred to Europe

The Azores are located almost in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. From them to Moscow in a straight line 5000 km.
Interestingly, is Greenland also Europe (not as part of Denmark), but geographically?

[rotmistr60]

stealth B-2 Spirit bombers

Subtle according to the Americans? So they have already inconspicuous 117 shot down in Serbia with obsolete Russian air defense systems. Even the vaunted F-35s are visible according to our Russian Ministry of Defense. When there is nothing to answer specifically, then the "intimidation" games begin.

[bessmertniy]

Azores is a tourist paradise. Therefore, they are chosen - to sunbathe and swim.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: rotmistr60

Subtle by the version of the Americans?

but what will be according to your version? Can you prove that the B-2 in terms of stealth is no different from the B-52 or B-1B, for example?

Quote: rotmistr60

Even the vaunted F-35s, according to our Defense Ministry, are visible.

Moreover, I will tell you a military secret: all stealth is visible. But - depending on what range (you can bring a few more parameters, but this is enough)

[Nychego]

Azores is still Europe ...

[rocket757]

The USA has thrown B-2 Spirit bombers to Europe

So what? It seems like big exercises are going on ... not the first time.

[cniza]

Just for a long time such a large crowd did not gather ...

[rocket757]

Quote: cniza

Just for a long time such a large crowd did not gather ...

Wow ... they’re probably dreaming of fastening a staggering one ... who has shawed there!

[cniza]

Their brains completely staggered, preparing the Young Europeans for slaughter.

[rocket757]

Yes, there, except dill, no one is torn ... someone is not so bad, and someone just pf-e, there is no one to talk about.
The cries of politicians do not count, it is already few who inspire something more, yelling in the squares.

[cniza]

And no one asks and will not ask them ...

[rocket757]

I’m not sure that the focus, with universal / total mobilization, for example, will take a simple ride .... but without it, it’s just pf-e.

[cniza]

They are simply put up with a human shield, if they do not have time to escape, then all ...

[rocket757]

Of all such shields, the danger is not small, and the cost, if they do not want to be one ... when they run into the return line, how to stop them, so that their order is preserved in order ???

[cniza]

And why put them up, they live in the area of ​​bases and all kinds of stations ...

[rocket757]

Yes, these are just "straw" which does not even have time to flare up properly, immediately into humus.

[cniza]

Now, it is necessary to bring this to their consciousness and let their politicians and bosses spoil the blood.

[rocket757]

Their bosses and patrons understand this, and they have been sedated on the airspace, clogged to the eyeballs with exactly what they need.
If the "straw" wanted to know about their fate, this is not so difficult ... but you have to WANT it!

[Retvizan 8]

... "and shows the support of the US allies and partners" ...
In general, they constantly provide support and care to the European allies, they either drew in the Middle East and crowds of refugees flocked to Europe, they stopped the construction of a gas pipeline with very profitable Russian gas and many more minor dirty tricks.

[knn54]

Portugal will have to "shelter" for the content.
And the Yankees will spoil the next resort.
PEOPLE are preparing to celebrate the 5th anniversary of Victory, but "these" will not calm down.

[cniza]

They think that this can scare us.

[cniza]

The U.S. Air Force deployed B-2 Spirit strategic stealth bombers to Europe.

Well, at least they stopped writing that the invisibles ... are again gathering a large crowd and it is clear against whom.

[Tuzik]

It is reported that in the 1988-1999 years the 21 B-2 Spirit aircraft was produced, and 20 of them are now in service with the US Air Force.

And where is one more lost?

[dzvero]

He fell ... February 23rd ... a year without significance ...

[Wolf]

there were 20 then 21 were made. But the crews know by name and surname. 1 The crew went missing in 1999.

[dzvero]

On 23 February 2008, B-2 "AV-12" Spirit of Kansas crashed on the runway shortly after takeoff from Andersen Air Force Base in Guam. The photo is attached on the Internet.
The eta bike most likely reflects damage to the second F-117.
The loss of such an aircraft for the United States as the loss of an aircraft carrier. Do not hide. Would have surfaced ...

[Wolf]

And I got it, they tried to hide, but .......

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Wolf

there were 20 then 21

the last, the 21st copy of the B-2 with its own name "Spirit of Louisiana", was handed over to the customer (USAF) November 10, 1997

[Wolf]

Yes, but also 1 Spirit was transmitted, but it was interpreted later than 2000 and was not announced in the media!

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Wolf

Yes, but also 1 Spirit was transmitted, but it was interpreted later than 2000 and was not announced in the media!

Of course, they didn’t disclose it, only they informed you))

And Clinton just pulled out a pack of bucks from his pocket, counted out 2 billion, gave it to the head of Northrop, but warned that none of the thousands involved in the production about the new plane would have spoken. Well, the pilots, by themselves, made a suggestion.

Finish playing already in conspiracy.

[Tuzik]

Well, yes, February 23 is epic of course. )) I imagine what was going on then) Toast after toast)

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Tuzik

And where is one more lost?

crashed and burned down on February 23, 2008 when taking off from Andersen air base. (Guam)

[Wolf]

Lost 2, and the Spirit of Misuri, he was called and pillar 1 in the shares, and his crew died! Misuri Spirit COPY, Xerox of the first Misuri Spirit. Through the names of the crew, everything will stand out clearly!

[Wolf]

1999 Pillar 1 and Pillar 2 flew. So only 1 pillar returned!

[Wolf]

And look at this 2 picture ATTENTIVELY! These are 2 places where 2 planes or 2 aircraft models burned down !!!

[Wolf]

The left one of the aircraft hill on 2 pictures, on 1 there is no hill here and there are a lot of details .......

[Wolf]

So Clinton warned me!
Left is one plane hill on 2 pictures, on 1 there is no hill here and there are a lot of details

[Tuzik]

Well, from a different angle, the pictures. What was the point of coming up with an accident, they could just say if they dismantled it for spare parts, or in the parking lot the bomb exploded inside.

[Wolf]

Different foreshortening? Look carefully, the columns of lighting paths, etc. .....

[Wolf]

How would vi justify that NEVA shot down an airplane worth $ 2 billion and in the meantime they said that he was Martian. The bomb exploded then someone Dujan at the prison to go in, etc. .......

[Tuzik]

Quote: Gregory_45

crashed and burned down on February 23, 2008 when taking off from Andersen air base

Thank you Gregory, of course, an oil painting. Gold has turned to coal. Or whatever it was in the fairy tale

[sgapich]

Quote: Tuzik

And where is one more lost?

23.02.08/89/0127 exploded in Guam. (tail number XNUMX-XNUMX, name - Spirit of Kansas)

[voyaka uh]

This includes development money (for R&D).
But the B-21 Raider is now easy to create. It uses all the achievements of B-2.

[Grigory_45]

Quote from rudolf

But initially it cost less than a billion. All research and development works have already been included in this price. And why then after the modernization the price tag jumped up?

the Americans spent more than 1 billion only on the replacement of radar systems. They changed other equipment and software. Also, there were works to prevent fatigue failure of the airframe, adaptation to new weapons.

Perhaps influenced by the change in the dollar (we are given absolute values)

[Grigory_45]

Quote: voyaka uh

This includes development money (for R&D)

R&D in military orders is always a separate line (and is not included in the cost of the final product)

[Liam]

Quote: Gregory_45

Quote: voyaka uh

This includes development money (for R&D)

R&D in military orders is always a separate line (and is not included in the cost of the final product)

Do you speak English?
Unit cost
$ 737 million (1997 approx. Flyaway cost)

Flyaway cost is one measure of the cost of an aircraft. It values ​​the aircraft at its marginal cost, including only the cost of production and production tools essential for building a single unit.It excludes sunk costs such as research and development, supplementary costs such as support equipment, and future costs such as spares and maintenance.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Liam

Do you speak English?
Unit cost
$ 737 million (1997 approx. Flyaway cost)

Flyaway cost is one measure of the cost of an aircraft. It values ​​the aircraft at its marginal cost, including only the cost of production and production tools essential for building a single unit.It excludes sunk costs such as research and development, supplementary costs such as support equipment, and future costs such as spares and maintenance .

Usually, the R&D cost of military equipment goes as a separate line and is not included in the cost of the final product. Especially created at the initiative of the military department (and the ATB program was initiated by the US Air Force and was not the initiative of Northrop). Even if not a single production model is produced, the military department pays for the companies the stage of research and development.
Apparently, the B-2 is also unique in that the cost of R&D was scattered across the machines.

[Avior]

here, too, judging by the quote
actually it says that the value is 737 million, not two billion,
and this amount includes the cost of manufacturing an aircraft and equipment per unit.

marginal cost, including only the cost of production and production tools essential for building a single unit

it is separately agreed that the cost of development and subsequent maintenance is not included in this amount

It excludes sunk costs such as research and development ....

the cost is high, because firstly small-scale production, secondly, the plane is just stuffed with electronics, including in the flight control system
Cost of setting up an official report in detail
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GAOREPORTS-NSIAD-97-181/pdf/GAOREPORTS-NSIAD-97-181.pdf
detailed in the nameplate on page 14.
the total cost of the program is 45 billion dollars

[Liam]

Quote: Avior

the total cost of the program is 45 billion dollars

This is the cost of R&D, aircraft construction, maintenance, modernization, etc., etc.
Likewise, the F-35 program for these parameters "costs" more than $ 1 trillion. Although R&D there is 55 yards and about 250 yards, the construction of 3000 aircraft.
The remaining 700 + yards is an estimate of hypothetical spending on upgrading, repairing and maintaining the life cycle of an aircraft 40 years in advance, including training pilots for this period. In essence, this is the cost of all US tactical aviation half a century in advance.

But this does not prevent individual advanced experts from including these expenses in the cost of a single aircraft.

[Liam]

Quote: Gregory_45

Apparently

You probably don’t know very well English. The cost of B-2 (1 pc.) Is $ 737 million. No R&D and other upgrades / services are included in this price. They include all kinds of forum lovers to speculate about the cost of 2 yards per piece. .
Another trick of forum fans is to convert the value in prices of the 90s of 737 million into current dollars (taking into account inflation for this period of about 40%). And then the cost for 1 piece "grows up to 1,1 billion. Which adds even more chaos. Well, for "beauty" they smear the cost of R&D by 1 yard for each plane. And then the required 2 yards apiece are obtained, and the reason to hyip about amerskih sawmills is ready.
737 million apiece, of course, it’s amazing imagination. Only everything is known in comparison. When someone builds a strategically similar advanced strategist with all his stuffing and fits into much less money, then you can say that V-2 is too expensive. But something competitors not even on the horizon. Therefore, all the cries about the high cost, nothing more than a waste of water

[sanik2020]

In modern warfare, they are of little use, so they will fight with the coronavirus.

[Wolf]

In modern warfare, they are intended to carry nuclear missiles and bombs.

[Naughty]

That would be their Ukrainians Russian Beeches mistakenly shot down)))) They have vast experience))))