The American submarine will be able to attack on the orders of artificial intelligence, not human


The United States is developing an autonomous submarine controlled by artificial intelligence. It bears all responsibility for making decisions, including about the attack.


About this writes the publication New Scientist.

The US Navy will soon receive new unmanned submarines. They are submarines belonging to the CLAWS project.

It’s not the person who is responsible for the attack decisions on this boat, but the on-board computer with artificial intelligence. The development of this military technology, controlled by artificial intelligence, is carried out by specialists from the US Naval Research Directorate. The new submarine is considered to be an “autonomous underwater system” weapons for secret use. "

The main task for it will be the elimination of underwater mines and the establishment of optimal driving routes. Artificial intelligence will help the submarine evade enemy anti-submarine actions and solve other complex problems.

It is planned that for all tests of the submarine it will take two years, and by 2023 it will be transferred to the disposal of the American fleet.

Unmanned control systems will be installed on all submarines of this class.

Against this background, a discussion unfolded over whether in all situations, in the case of using weapons, submarines should rely on artificial intelligence?
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  1. Insurgent 10 March 2020 09: 34 New
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    Dry your brains, let's artificial ...

    This picture is suitable as an illustration, since it is Artificial Intelligence, nurtured not without the participation of US specialists.

    1. Invoce 10 March 2020 09: 40 New
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      Quote: Insurgent
      Dry your brains, let's artificial ...

      The State Department and the Ministry of Defense have seen enough of the Series from the Terminator .... A prototype of the SkyNet element ..
      The kids didn’t choose their own sandbox for their games ...
      1. Insurgent 10 March 2020 10: 05 New
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        Quote: Invoce
        The kids didn’t choose their own sandbox for their games ...

        The sad thing is that since the collapse of the USSR, they play wherever they want, without the head of an adult.
        1. your1970 10 March 2020 10: 33 New
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          Next to the article is where they whine that they have almost slipped the point of no return on nuclear technology .... and what will these underwater drones carry?
          1. Shurik70 10 March 2020 18: 12 New
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            Quote: Invoce
            The prototype of the SkyNet element ..

            And it will end, as in "Terminator".
            Only the "Savior" will not be
          2. Boa kaa 10 March 2020 22: 21 New
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            Quote: your1970
            .and what will these underwater drones carry?

            US NLA will be (as stated in the article)
            According to the documents, the new submarine is considered "an autonomous underwater weapon system for secret use."
            The main task for her will be elimination of underwater mines and laying of optimal driving routes. Artificial intelligence will help the submarine evade enemy anti-submarine actions and solve other complex problems.

            This will most likely be an NPA launched from a submarine, according to the decision of the boat commander, according to a plan to break through the submarine’s boundary or pass into the guards protected by the MLM ... But about weapons on board ... there seems to be no information. Although everything is possible.
            And here is our Poseidon - that weapon of the Doomsday, but this Dog of the Apocalypse is produced by decision of a person. The order is executed by AI. This AI doesn’t take any decision on military use.
            1. Svarog51 11 March 2020 02: 12 New
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              Alexander hi I completely agree with your definition. good And then after all, and so it can happen:
        2. Starover_Z 10 March 2020 10: 38 New
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          Quote: Insurgent
          Quote: Invoce
          The kids didn’t choose their own sandbox for their games ...

          The sad thing is that since the collapse of the USSR, they play wherever they want, without the head of an adult.

          Seen enough of the Russian military cartoons, well, and remembered their Skynet.
          And in case of conflict they will say "I'm not me and not my cow!" ?
          A sad prospect ...
  2. maxim947 10 March 2020 09: 35 New
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    Mattresses, in their spirit, leave a fallback, so that if something happens, we didn’t want this, it is itself.
    Skynet Origin)
    1. Lelek 10 March 2020 23: 13 New
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      Quote: maxim947
      Mattresses in their own way ...

      hi
      Yeah, you can’t refuse them with persistence. Here the other day:
  3. Hog
    Hog 10 March 2020 09: 36 New
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    Case squared 36/80 version 2.0
    1. bessmertniy 10 March 2020 09: 41 New
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      Artificial intelligence is probably indifferent that a war crime can be committed as a result of its actions. You will not give him a term, and you will not put him in a jail. And with those who introduced this artificial intelligence, bribes are smooth.
      1. Mestny 10 March 2020 11: 11 New
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        Natural intelligence is also indifferent in most cases.
        1. bessmertniy 10 March 2020 11: 56 New
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          Natural intelligence can be punished, but artificial not. request And, probably, sometimes it would be necessary. But "he is a monument."
  4. grandfather_Kostya 10 March 2020 09: 43 New
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    A boat floats and reflects on the meaning of life. What will come ...?
    1. Paranoid50 10 March 2020 10: 24 New
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      Quote: grandfather_Kostya
      and reflects on the meaning of life. What will come ...?

      The world is a mess, life is a shit ...
      Suicide - let it be easy!(C) fellow wassat
      1. Svarog51 11 March 2020 02: 31 New
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        Alexander hi
        Suicide - let it be easy! (C)

        The second rule of robotics will work if it is embedded in AI. Only (according to Isaac Asimov) all three must be respected, but then harm cannot be done to a person. Drone vs drone? What if the Terminator wakes up? request
        1. Paranoid50 11 March 2020 09: 32 New
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          Sergey, hi .
          Quote: Svarog51
          what if the Terminator wakes up?

          Now let the headaches hurt the mattresses in this regard. yes
          1. Svarog51 11 March 2020 19: 23 New
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            Now let the headaches hurt the mattresses in this regard.

            Will we beat when they turn up? I am for!"
  5. Prisoner 10 March 2020 09: 44 New
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    If anything, they say I'm not me, I'm sorry, the error came out. The car is to blame. Well, if the bullet on their own by mistake, and if not on their own? what
    1. Blackmokona 10 March 2020 09: 46 New
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      The same thing when people fired on strangers by mistake.
      1. Prisoner 10 March 2020 10: 09 New
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        The film "Screamers" seems to have been shot, but the mind is not enough to figure out what such tricks can lead to.
    2. Galleon 10 March 2020 10: 38 New
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      As far as one can understand from the article, we are talking about a specialized submarine for the search and destruction of mines, and not about a multi-purpose submarine equipped with strike (or even more so strategic missile) weapons. so that your fears to pull - not only your fears, but also the owners of this AI, so there is such a safety net.
      Mine danger is a serious problem of world shipping. I remember, back in the 90s, in the Baltic Straits (Bolshoi Belt, Maly Belt, Skagerrak) the movement of ships and ships was allowed only along worn fairways, and on the navigation charts there were inscriptions: "mine danger" - this is from the Second World War. It is now good that there have not been major wars for a long time. Countries with a good fleet of minesweepers sometimes carry out international missions, like the Soviet Navy in the 70s trawling Middle Eastern waters.
      Such an underwater minesweeper is a very good thing. It is a pity that our engineering idea did not reach such a development.
      This medal also has a reverse: if you can make a minesweeper, then it can be no more difficult to make an underwater uninhabited mine layer, which will become a serious threat. After all, the entire fleet, including strategic is a few bays ...
      1. Den717 10 March 2020 11: 20 New
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        Quote: Galleon
        As far as you can understand from the article, we are talking about a specialized submarine for the search and destruction of mines, and not about a multi-purpose submarine

        Down and Out trouble started. We started with a minesweeper, and nobody knows how to finish, or maybe there will be nobody to know. The most disturbing thing is that it is impossible to negotiate with that non-artificial intellect, and upon reaching an agreement there is no certainty that you are not .... they are not deceiving. Americans have already transferred decision-making powers to attack the brains of the robot, which, judging by the media, shot experimenters. Developments were suspended for some time. And here again ....
      2. Kerensky 10 March 2020 12: 20 New
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        Such underwater minesweeper - it’s a very good thing. It is a pity that our engineering idea did not reach such a development.
        This coin also has a reverse: if you can make a minesweeper, then you can make it no harder underwater unmanned mine layer, which will become a serious threat.

        Minesweeper does not have to be underwater. On the surface you can install more equipment and survivability from him .....
        But the underwater minzag is a problem. We have key shipping points with a dozen on the planet. And then a powerful AI is not needed. To drag to the point, - to dump the cargo, - to return.
        1. Grigory_45 10 March 2020 16: 02 New
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          Quote: Kerensky
          Minesweeper does not have to be underwater

          however, having an underwater vehicle is most effective. Many minesweepers have long included in their armament one or two underwater telecontrol vehicles for fighting mines, with which the operator at a safe distance for the minesweeper can conduct a search, inspection of the mine and its destruction.

          In this case, the same thing, only the next step in evolution is an autonomous apparatus.
          Well, by itself, the reverse of the task is possible - not only trawling, but also setting minefields.
  6. rocket757 10 March 2020 09: 49 New
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    The American submarine will be able to attack on the orders of artificial intelligence, not human

    So many films on the subject have been shot .... so far, there is a great danger that will cover us with any other infection !!! Self-produced or invented in any biological laboratory, civilian, military ... but what a fuck! This is a real danger.
    One that has branded the most, the most, the boat is unlikely to be able to arrange a full armahide .... and the states, represented by the governments that control the "fatal red button", are unlikely to take risks.
    In short, do not run up yourself and be ready! So far, only the sanity of the person responsible can keep us all from a catastrophe. But it is still!
  7. Sergey_33 10 March 2020 09: 49 New
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    The Ukrainian armed forces have long been using artificial intelligence (6 boilers) and avatars in punitive operations. SUGS, so win.
  8. ddd1975 10 March 2020 09: 50 New
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    and our "dead hand" is not from this series will be ???
    1. Horon 10 March 2020 10: 13 New
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      No, it's more like an automaton. There is no intelligence there, triggering is possible only if there are signs of operator death from nuclear damage. Accordingly, the presence of live operators eliminates the fact that the system is triggered. Operators, while alive, make a decision and, if necessary, block false positives.
    2. dzvero 10 March 2020 10: 21 New
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      The series is yes, and the episode is different. The automation of the "Perimeter" applies the solution to the application when the operator is already ... that ... And for the staff of the Pribluda, the operator deliberately transfers the solution to the computer before ...
  9. knn54 10 March 2020 09: 55 New
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    There is no one to serve, however.
    And without duplication by the operator, this is absurd.
  10. rotmistr60 10 March 2020 09: 59 New
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    The United States is developing an autonomous submarine controlled by artificial intelligence. It bears all responsibility for making decisions, including about the attack.
    It follows that the Americans will ultimately achieve that they will completely disappear while taking with them 2/3 of the world. Everything is clear with this country and its politicians.
  11. Amateur 10 March 2020 10: 10 New
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    Artificial intelligence will help the submarine evade enemy anti-submarine actions and solve other complex problems.

    They cannot teach a car to drive on the road. And then a whole submarine, and even with the right to use weapons. Oh well. fool
    And what will such an intellect do with humanity is described by the American science fiction writer R. Sheckley, "Guardian Bird"
    1. Grigory_45 10 March 2020 16: 10 New
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      Quote: Amateur
      They can’t teach them how to drive a car

      somehow, but they manage. Despite the fact that it is much more difficult to teach driving on the earth's surface than moving in air, on water or under water - there are many more obstacles, the flexibility of decision-making by an automatic machine should be many times higher.

      Quote: Amateur
      and even with the right to use weapons.

      and where did you read it from? The article indicates the purpose of the apparatus:
      The main task for her will be the elimination of submarine mines


      Americans are not so shell-shocked as to entrust the drone to use weapons themselves.
  12. Pavel57 10 March 2020 10: 15 New
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    “Let the tank shoot a little and then we’ll go to dinner.” (C)
  13. Scipio 10 March 2020 10: 42 New
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    Dangerous guys! They with their brains are not all right, how can they create adequate artificial intelligence?
  14. K-50 10 March 2020 12: 04 New
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    The United States is developing an autonomous submarine controlled by artificial intelligence. It bears all responsibility for making decisions, including about the attack.

    And if it fails, an error? belay
    With whom then to ask for a destroyed country or what kind of "cant"? fool
    1. Grigory_45 10 March 2020 16: 11 New
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      Quote: K-50
      And if it fails, an error?

      and if Poseidon also makes a mistake?
      Quote: K-50
      With whom then to ask for a destroyed country or what kind of "cant"?
      1. K-50 10 March 2020 16: 15 New
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        Quote: Gregory_45
        and if Poseidon also makes a mistake?

        And what about the launch of Poseidon by Iskin? belay
        Already done and kept quiet? belay lol
        1. Grigory_45 10 March 2020 16: 23 New
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          Quote: K-50
          And what about the launch of Poseidon by Iskin?

          Status-6 is a highly robotic complex that most tasks are solved autonomously. Or will you tell us how to constantly control a drone under water, and even at a distance of thousands of miles?))))

          And, you will guarantee that there can be no technical failure in it, as a result of which he will bring the vigorous part somewhere to the shores of Australia and undermine it? Kangaroo is not sorry? ..
          1. K-50 10 March 2020 17: 19 New
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            Quote: Gregory_45
            Status-6 is a highly robotic complex that most tasks are solved autonomously.

            Managing does not mean deciding on a hit !! fool
            1. Grigory_45 10 March 2020 17: 52 New
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              Quote: K-50
              Managing does not mean deciding on a hit!

              one gets the impression that you either intentionally do not want to understand the meaning of what was written, or you don’t even imagine the principle of building such devices (then there’s nothing to talk to you about, and your words are nothing more than an empty phrase)

              It is impossible to control an underwater drone along the entire path of its movement (you know, water passes radio waves very badly, especially at great distances - it’s the atmosphere). He is following the program. Now the same question that you are trying so hard to get away from: will you guarantee that the program will not crash, or it will not be in the execution chains?

              Status is just as potentially dangerous bullshit as the American apparatus.
  15. sanik2020 10 March 2020 12: 17 New
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    I saw something similar in the old, Soviet film "Case in the square 36-80".
    1. Barmaleyka 10 March 2020 13: 20 New
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      Quote: sanik2020
      I saw something similar in the old, Soviet film "Case in the square 36-80".

      not really they had an accident
      1. Tuzik 10 March 2020 20: 44 New
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        The accident was with the reactor, and the rockets launched a new super-duper computer.
        1. Barmaleyka 10 March 2020 21: 06 New
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          ... an accident happens on the boat - the reactor specialist Alan discovers a leak in the reactor cooling circuit. Turner intends not to float to the surface and orders Alan to fix the breakdown. However, the problem cannot be fixed, and the boat is forced to surface. It is discovered by Soviet forces, but the Americans claim that everything is in order.

          Alan, who received the strongest dose of radiation, understands that help can only be obtained from the Soviet military. Therefore, he sneaks into the captain’s cabin and unlocks the fire control system. Then he bursts into the radio room and, having pushed the signalman out, sends out the SOS signal. When Alan tries to escape from a boat on a raft, Turner kills Alan ...
          1. Tuzik 10 March 2020 21: 29 New
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            Well? As you say, he just removed some kind of lock (I honestly don’t remember this moment), but the computer launched rockets! And the captain could not stop it! (it’s more logical to assume that Alan turned on the lock!)
            PS. I didn’t minus you.
            1. Barmaleyka 10 March 2020 21: 42 New
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              but for the computer to start it, it was necessary to unblock it, climbed into the captain’s cabin and unlocked it, it’s still not something about the article
            2. Barmaleyka 10 March 2020 21: 44 New
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              don't you have?
              Well, read the plot of the film and do not fool anyone
              1. Tuzik 10 March 2020 22: 49 New
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                I watched it half a year ago, I got it on TV. At the beginning of the film, the stripes praised the new smart comp, at the end the captain of the submarine laid all the blame for the attack on the Russians. Watch the movie itself, interesting.
  16. alex007i 10 March 2020 13: 06 New
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    The American submarine will be able to attack on the orders of artificial intelligence, not human


    If only to blame their own aggressiveness.
    Very convenient, in principle - The Hague for AI, sounds very modern.
  17. Barmaleyka 10 March 2020 13: 19 New
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    The United States is developing an autonomous submarine controlled by artificial intelligence. It bears all responsibility for making decisions, including about the attack.
  18. Air force 10 March 2020 13: 55 New
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    I somehow thought that the “AI” had not yet been invented, but here the bang and already the boat with the AI ​​in 2023 will go to war. With such success, horror stories can be written for Americans. Type: a flock of Russian missiles with artificial intelligence at any time can begin to hunt for US aircraft carriers. About what missiles we are talking about the "P-700 Granite" 1983 adoption. With today's journalists, any autopilot will soon be called artificial intelligence, not to mention unmanned vehicles or robotic systems with built-in algorithms. The main thing as “Daggers” with “Vanguards” Russia showed is cartoons, and how to tell tales about “AI” by oneself is unprecedented progress. PS It seems that in the United States, the military, when he comes to Congress, he enters one room to get money, they say that our nuclear missiles are out of date, the Kirdyk fleet, no hypersound, etc. money given. He enters the next room to report on the money received and starts in 2023 with AI submarines going around and we will have 7 types of hypersonic missiles, etc.