What should we do with this oil?

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What should we do with this oil?

This is worse than a crime. This is mistake


This short comment was written before dawn. Bidding will begin at 10:00 Moscow time. None of the analysts will now make any positive outlook. But we allow ourselves to state the following: there are no serious grounds for panic. Even for stock exchange panic.

Yes, exchanges respond to different market gadgets faster and harder. But why, after exchanges, oil usually shakes? People with a slightly more stable psyche usually go to oil traders than exchange and currency speculators. However, they are dependent people and cannot help but pay attention to what is happening on the exchanges and what regulators are doing.




Fortunately, the latter, that is, the leadership of our Central Bank and other responsible officials, had a day off the day before, which did not allow them to play at a key rate right there. Her increase right now is more than likely, although there is great doubt that it is so necessary. But information from the currency exchange has already been announced, which hastily raised the upper boundaries of the trade corridors for the dollar and the euro.

Even specific figures are named: the dollar border is set in values ​​from 70,455 rubles to 76,3951; Euros - from 79,625 to 87,3131 rubles. But oil prices after the collapse the day before already slowly creeped up. Someone in just a day managed to earn millions, and maybe billions, from the fall and subsequent correction. Well, the unlucky White House inhabitant Donald Trump was clearly in a hurry to declare that low oil prices are beneficial to the entire world economy.

However, by and large, we would somehow agree with Riyadh, and now we should not be at all up to Trump. The charismatic and many even the pretty (since sane) American leader is now at a great risk, because he might suddenly lose the support of the oil lobby, at least that part of it that still sympathizes with the Republicans.

It must be remembered that American oil workers, who usually invest in both Republicans and Democrats, following the sacred principles of diversification, are still counting on the continuation of the global shale oil project. With quotes at the level of $ 30-40 per barrel, this project may fail, and it will already cost Trump the presidency.

And here, I'm sorry for the not entirely appropriate maxim, even a trip to Moscow to the American President’s Victory Parade will not save. However, then on May 9, you can really count on the arrival of this elderly playboy from politics to Moscow: he will have nothing to lose!


Let us return, however, to oil. Regarding the small increase in quotations that has been emerging in the morning, experts are not in a hurry to speak out yet. This growth is small only in comparison with the scale of the fall that preceded it - about 7 percent. Most likely, it is really just a correction so far, since there are no serious reasons for returning to previous borders.

It is difficult to say whether the stockbrokers have any insider information about secret telephone conversations between Moscow and Riyadh, or is this a reaction to a series of statements made by the Russian Minister of Energy. Alexander Novak never tire of repeating that Moscow is not ready to put up with overt pressure from OPEC, but is always ready for a constructive dialogue.

It seems that absolutely everyone understands that the divorce of Russia from OPEC, which happened in Vienna, by definition cannot be final. After Vienna, it was announced that even the old arrangements for OPEC + transactions no longer apply. But it is unlikely that any of the oil-producing countries will dare immediately and take full advantage of the situation and fill the market with their cheap oil. Just to seize niches in the market. Saudi Arabia, however, tried to do just that, but in response received from stock traders a drop in Saudi Aramco quotes immediately by more than 10 percent.

We will not go the other way


Russia has a lot of oil. Judging by the hard divorce from OPEC, there are too many. So much that Russia is no longer able to go for a new large-scale reduction in production volumes.

No data have yet been received that oil storage facilities are full, although this is most likely the case. There are also big problems with domestic sales, since almost all of Russia unexpectedly had a too warm winter.

Due to the fall in oil prices, these days we are anxiously awaiting the same fall in the national currency and the associated inflationary pressure. How to act and whether it is worth rushing at all in such a situation? As usual, our financial authorities know the answer. They seem to have long prepared an answer to the eternal question: what to do?

Do you think they will really print reserve funds? In no case, only if for a species. But our reserves, even with oil cheaper than $ 30 per barrel, may be enough for 6-7, or even for all 10 years. And this is if you don’t work at all, although before the Khrushchev and Brezhnev the Soviet Union somehow managed to exist without oil exports, it was exclusively on domestic demand, and it fed the country of people's democracy.


Well, if the anti-crisis billions are given to someone, then, of course, the oligarchs, as it was already at the turn of 2008 and 2009 or after the “Crimean spring”. The public will be presented with some kind of epic anti-crisis plan with the final clamping of the money supply. In conditions when the fall in prices did not affect everything, but only oil and the native ruble, and the country really faces a budget deficit and devaluation, this is a strategic decision that can only be considered correct from the point of view of cannibalistic liberal economic theories.

There are only one way to clamp down prices on the domestic market: completely stop the circulation of money. Yes, due to the contraction of the money supply, it is easiest to fight inflation, but if people don’t have any money at all, then inflation will immediately turn to zero. Absolute zero like physical - minus 273 degrees Celsius.

But the whole point is that it is precisely these kinds of errors, which, unfortunately, cannot immediately be officially designated as those that are worse than crimes, allow us to transfer all problems from a sore point to a healthy one. That is, from swollen budget and personal accounts, and also from official portfolios on the shoulders of ordinary citizens.

With the next fall of the ruble, which we are not just hinted at, but warned about it directly, the overwhelming majority of Russians have the unpleasant prospect of impoverishing another 10-15 percent or even more.

However, when relying on the internal turnover of many negative consequences, it is quite simple to avoid. By subsidies from the same immense reserves to domestic producers, due to large-scale concessional lending, when the key rate is not raised, but reduced. By the way, this was immediately done by the US Federal Reserve.

Already, many experts are warning: a sharp rise in the price of the dollar and the euro and a weakening ruble will primarily affect the prices of imported goods, cars, equipment, clothes and shoes, and even something to the table. Foreign trips will also become more expensive, but all this is not a cause for panic at all. Let stockbrokers panic - they will always have time to win back their own.
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  1. +16
    10 March 2020 09: 20
    In time, Medvedev changed his job smile
    1. +16
      10 March 2020 10: 35
      Quote: Michael55
      In time, Medvedev changed his job

      It reminds me of the appointment of Kiriyenko's "kinder surprise" - they just appointed him and immediately defaulted. Maybe so with Mishustin? laughing
      1. +20
        10 March 2020 10: 40
        the sharp rise in the price of the dollar and the euro and the weakening of the ruble will primarily affect the prices of imported goods, cars, equipment, clothes and shoes, and even something to the table. Foreign trips will also become more expensive but all this is not a cause for panic. Let stockbrokers panic - they will always have time to win back their own.

        Strange conclusion. A reason for what, for joy or what? But why should stockbrokers panic if they play their own (unlike us)? And I’m sure that many knowledgeable, exchange companies including have already made good money on insider trading!
        1. -36
          10 March 2020 11: 14
          Essential goods are ALREADY not imported into the country, so no mass impoverishment is foreseen. The rise in the cost of imports is a preference for the development of our own enterprises, let us use them, since we work there. And we will make money on this. The mention of "oligarchs" is a mark - the author is trying to nightmare the gullible public. For safety reasons it is better not to go "over the hill" now. The economy and the consumer sector are already extremely over-credited.
          But it’s worth thinking about this: the petrodollar market is shrinking, but where will the released funds go? In gold, of course, but somewhere else. Who guesses will work well.
          1. +17
            10 March 2020 11: 38
            Quote: Victor N
            Essential goods are not already imported into the country, so no mass impoverishment is expected.

            In your opinion: cars, equipment, smartphones, trips abroad are no longer needed, but we have enough for bread!
            The people have been living for endless 30 years with tightened belts ... Maybe enough?

            Quote: Victor N
            For safety reasons it is better not to go "over the hill" now.

            Are there no safe countries left? I am sure that those who are richer than themselves in some way to limit in foreign voyages and will not think!

            Quote: Victor N
            the petrodollar market is narrowing, but where will the released funds go? In gold of course

            I have never seen a correlation between gold and oil. Gold has a good upward trend since June 2019. But, the collapse of oil in the moment did not affect gold. Moreover, gold is already on highs - those who were in gold are already taking profits.
            1. -5
              10 March 2020 12: 29
              In your opinion: cars, equipment, smartphones, trips abroad are no longer needed, but we have enough for bread!

              It’s strange to read from you. You urge your compass to live according to the Juche theory? And now you need a trip abroad?
              1. +8
                10 March 2020 17: 01
                Quote: Okolotochny
                You urge your compass to live according to the Juche theory?

                An example of South Korea will be better, as well as an example of the development of Singapore. There, development proceeded without reference to resources.
                But you immediately go to extremes with horror stories "Do you want like in North Korea?" The receiver is stereotyped, and very jaded. negative
                I don’t understand you - you are trying in every possible way to justify the inaction of the Russian authorities in terms of industrial development, and avoiding raw material dependence. Your children will have to live here, London is not rubber! wink
            2. -13
              10 March 2020 14: 12
              Cars and smartphones are by no means attributes of impoverishment.
              1. +12
                10 March 2020 16: 24
                Quote: Victor N
                Cars and smartphones are by no means attributes of impoverishment.

                Cars and smartphones are by no means an indicator of the state of Russia.

                In the Russian clinic:
                - Doctor, I want to live! Do something!
                - Do you have money?
                - No.
                “Well, why do you need such a life?”
          2. +23
            10 March 2020 11: 49
            Quote: Victor N
            Essential goods are NOT already imported into the country, so no mass impoverishment is foreseen

            Do you really live in Russia? Or so, he wrote, and there even though the grass does not grow?
            You look around at home and find at least 5, 5, Carl, domestic products!
            At present, the Russian Federation is an absolutely import-dependent country in all sectors and spheres of activity.
            Now we even buy nails in China, because it’s NOT PROFITABLE to produce them from us !!!
            PySy. About agricultural is better not to start, there starting from the seed and cows, ending with the equipment on which they make sausage- ALL IMPORTANT !!!
          3. +31
            10 March 2020 12: 59
            "Essential goods are ALREADY not imported into the country ... the author is trying to nightmare the gullible public ..." - you got excited Victor n (Victor n)
            Dear Victor (n) Especially for you.
            "Ivan was woken up by a Korean smartphone, he got up from the Swedish bed, squeezed German toothpaste onto a Turkish toothbrush, shaved with an American razor, washed himself with French soap, boiled water in a German teapot, poured Brazilian coffee into a Polish cup, put on an Italian suit, puffed on French perfume, closed the Chinese front door with an English lock, got into a German car, inserted a disc with a British rock band into a Japanese car radio, bought two American hamburgers and American soda at an American fast food restaurant on the way, arrived at an office built by Turkish builders, parked the car on a guarded parking lot with a Canadian video surveillance system, took a Finnish elevator to the fifth floor, entered an office with a sign: "Merchandising Department", turned on an American computer, opened a browser in an American operating system with Israeli security, entered the Internet created by the Americans, typed in English language web address American with social network, logged into my account and typed: "WE WILL NOT LET THE WEST WORK RUSSIA!" (c)
          4. +1
            10 March 2020 14: 32
            + + +
            Quote: Victor N
            But it’s worth thinking about this: the petrodollar market is shrinking, but where will the released funds go?

            On the other hand, the dollar has risen in price ... you can buy more of the same oil on it.
            Quote: Victor N
            but where will the released funds go?

            Usually in crises or war, the main thing is that more impoverished people appear again, ......
          5. +3
            11 March 2020 12: 00
            You know, even screwdrivers with nails, batteries are imported from China, yesterday I discovered that even the book of Persian poetry that I read was printed in China! Have come ...
            So, despite all the mantras about import substitution (there are limited successes in agriculture), there will be a drop in living standards. It is important how much.
        2. +1
          10 March 2020 13: 28
          you have a strange logic. you have only two conditions or panic or joy?
      2. +8
        10 March 2020 11: 55
        Quote: Silvestr
        Quote: Michael55
        In time, Medvedev changed his job

        It reminds me of the appointment of Kiriyenko's "kinder surprise" - they just appointed him and immediately defaulted. Maybe so with Mishustin? laughing

        I also thought about this at first, but most likely it was just the greed and incompetence of the commodity government.
        1. kin
          +1
          10 March 2020 18: 23
          Even before the New Year, there was news that the ruble was very expensive, that it had to be "dropped" to fill the budget and carry out any programs from the President and the government.
    2. +2
      10 March 2020 12: 48
      Chuychka at the iPhone, and Mishustin was framed
      1. -5
        10 March 2020 13: 26
        Quote: rotkiv04
        specific figures are named: the dollar border is set in values ​​from 70,455 rubles to 76,3951; Euros - from 79,625 to 87,3131 rubles. But oil prices after the collapse the day before already slowly creeped up. Someone in just a day managed to earn millions, and maybe billions, from the fall and subsequent correction. Well, the unlucky White House inhabitant Donald Trump was clearly in a hurry to declare that low oil prices are beneficial to the entire world economy. However, by and large, we would somehow agree with Riyadh and we should not be at all up to Trump now. The charismatic, and to many, even the pretty (since sane) American leader is now at a great risk, because he might lose the support of the oil lobby overnight, at least the part that still sympathizes with the Republicans.

        Nobody substituted ANYONE! The Saudis demanded that Russia reduce oil production at a time when consumption is low enough, and American companies are guaranteed to increase its production! At the same time, Russia has obligations, the failure to fulfill which entails penalties. That is, it is impossible to reduce production below the permissible level. Yet! about 65% of the produced oil goes for refining and the oil product is already sold. Those. further decrease in oil production will entail a blow to the refinery, and therefore will cause a decrease and increase in prices for oil products on the domestic market! Further! The Saudis are dumping harshly, although they themselves have almost all of their GDP built on oil revenues, in whose interests the banquet is the United States and against Iran and Russia! And finally, during crises and stagnation, the first place is always not profit, but market retention! You can always leave the market, but to return to a time when your place is occupied and contracts have already been concluded - it will not work, even if you offer a lower price. So there is no need to pour water on the mill of the "all-pervading" liberals. War is like war! It's hard for everyone! And if someone is against and wants to eat in one person - forward to London, to Tinkoff
        1. +6
          10 March 2020 14: 23
          How many bukaff, what about the liberals, you are not at the address, it is better to go directly to the guarantor
        2. +3
          10 March 2020 14: 43
          Quote: Invoce
          You can always leave the market, here come back

          We had already left the electronics market for example ... We can always return to the oil market, but in production winked ?? here Stalin is needed
          Quote: Invoce
          In war, as in war!
          There is a point of view that those with advanced logistics win the wars. The so-called War of the Quarters. So, winning in the oil sector, we lose technology, personnel, the domestic market, science, and most importantly, satisfaction with life in our country. Having lost the oil direction, we will be forced to survive, and while surviving we will squeeze out all that rubbish sitting in the Duma! we will be forced to produce our own, to develop.
          Oil in Russia, a little. The extraction is expensive, and it will be even more expensive if we extract it in the White Sea .. It’s better to lose while there is still a resource.
        3. Alf
          +1
          10 March 2020 19: 13
          Quote: Invoce
          It’s hard for everyone!

          That's right.
      2. -1
        10 March 2020 13: 51
        Chuychka at the iPhone, and Mishustin was framed

        Yes, that as parrots settled this stupidity. There is no analogy.
    3. +1
      10 March 2020 13: 09
      And what would he have if had not changed.
    4. +1
      10 March 2020 13: 55
      Or maybe he was just taken out of action on time
  2. +20
    10 March 2020 09: 24
    With the next fall of the ruble, which we are not just hinted at, but warned about it directly, the overwhelming majority of Russians have the unpleasant prospect of impoverishing another 10-15 percent or even more.

    We didn’t live richly, and there’s nothing to get used to ... We don’t have to wait for anything good from this whole story, not by washing, so the bourgeoisie will take a penny out of us by rolling. And what does it all mean?
    anti-crisis billions, if they give someone, then, of course, the oligarchs, as it was already at the turn of 2008 and 2009

    Evil is already lacking, there is nowhere to do any holes in the belt to tighten it harder, and this only adds billions to all of these crises ...
    1. -9
      10 March 2020 10: 20
      I think there is no reason for panic or anger. What is the price of oil $ 30? our budget is drawn up from a $ 40 oil price we get a deficit of $ 10 (in general, it’s not at all fatal considering that the NWF already has 10 trillion rubles). such a deficit can be covered for 10 years. but this is about us. and how are the enemies doing? the profitability level of shale oil production is $ 60 !!! I think a year or two and shale oil production (by the way the only thing that has ensured the growth of the American economy in recent years and dragged our Trump to Don for a second term) will be bent ... forever. what do the Saudis have? yes no better. their budget is drawn up at the rate of $ 80 ... it turns out that the annual budget deficit will be in the region of $ 100 billion. All in all, they have 500 billion foreign exchange reserves. if you pull them to a piece of iron, then it’s enough for 4-5 years ... or tighten their belts ... but only Russians can tighten their belts in this world, and while we can tolerate horseradish, someone will ruin us, and if we snot, they will gobble up and don’t choke ...
      1. +20
        10 March 2020 11: 09
        A little less than 10 billion. And another 2.7 billion from the NWF, the state plans to buy Sberbank from the Central Bank. T. Ye. Itself will buy its own asset. But the most incomprehensible thing in this story is that initially the national welfare fund was created for pension provision. But all the same, they carried out pension reform, I’m not afraid of the word - cannibalistic. And yes, we will win the Russians. Putin is with us! Now, the constitution will be corrected as they need, and we will definitely win.
        1. +14
          10 March 2020 11: 51
          Quote: Quasipatriot
          Putin is with us! Now, the constitution will be corrected as they need, and we will definitely win

          He was better on his own, without us ... then we would have won.
          1. 0
            10 March 2020 14: 51
            Quote: Malyuta
            He was better on his own, without us ... then we would have won.

            The most tragic is that when there is a leader recognized by all, it is easier to unite to win. . As the Scots say, I cannot be faithful to the whole empire, but I am faithful to the Queen. Therefore, the nation should have a leader !!! It is depressing that Putin’s initiative to deprive traitors of real estate has been bent. The question is - do we have a leader at all?
            1. Alf
              +5
              10 March 2020 19: 16
              Quote: aybolyt678
              It is depressing that Putin’s initiative to deprive traitors of real estate has been bent.

              Yes, yes .. and he didn’t sign the pension age either ...
              1. 0
                11 March 2020 13: 55
                Quote: Alf
                Yes, yes .. and he didn’t sign the pension age either ...

                but under someone he caved in yet! maybe for the people? smile
                1. Alf
                  +1
                  11 March 2020 18: 25
                  Quote: aybolyt678
                  Quote: Alf
                  Yes, yes .. and he didn’t sign the pension age either ...

                  but under someone he caved in yet! maybe for the people? smile

                  Here are just a list of "people" is not given.
        2. -18
          10 March 2020 12: 02
          But all the same, they carried out pension reform, I’m not afraid of the word - cannibalistic. And yes, we will win the Russians. Putin is with us! Now, the constitution will be corrected as they need, and we will definitely win.


          Why set these common phrases? In Germany, Great Britain, Japan, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, the United States, the retirement age, excluding beneficiaries, is 65 years old and above, and it doesn't matter whether a man or a woman is, why not say that they have a cannibal system. If you "love" "our" constitution so much, then tell me exactly which amendments do not suit you, but just shake the air.
          1. +11
            10 March 2020 12: 15
            Quote: krops777
            In Germany, Great Britain, Japan, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, the USA, the retirement age excluding beneficiaries is 65 years and above.

            Compare life expectancy.
            1. 0
              11 March 2020 16: 31
              As well as the standard of living, the level of wages, purchasing power of the euro in relation to the ruble and many more factors.
          2. +15
            10 March 2020 12: 23
            Quote: krops777
            In Germany, Great Britain, Japan, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, the USA, the retirement age, excluding beneficiaries, is 65 years and above, and basically it doesn’t matter a man or a woman

            First, life expectancy in Europe is much higher than in the Russian Federation.
            You intentionally dissemble the second, since in Norway there are many options for retirement, which in the minimum case will be in rubles 1, 306 million rubles
            170 kroons. By the way, in the same Norway, a person who said that he has depression can count on social benefits in the amount of min. Labor paid !!!
            So, let’s go without a nod to the West, otherwise very interesting facts will pop up for the inhabitants and awareness will come of all the mockery that is happening to people today in the modern Russian Federation!
            1. -14
              10 March 2020 12: 40
              First, life expectancy in Europe is much higher than in the Russian Federation.
              You intentionally dissemble the second, since in Norway there are many options for retirement,

              1. Why can't you say the above?
              2. In Russia, too, there are many options, do business, for example, go to the North, work under harmful working conditions, work in law enforcement agencies, give birth to women more and so on.
              3. High pensions in Europe don’t be cunning everywhere either (about Norway it’s not a matter of its high cost of living) is it because people have been working there for a long, long time and that’s why their economy is developed and notice that they are not under constant pressure sanctions.
              1. +16
                10 March 2020 12: 58
                Quote: krops777
                1. Why can't you say the above?

                I can, because there power does not apply to people, like cattle.
                Quote: krops777
                2

                Your whole second point is sophistry and thoughts of a school-age child.
                I especially liked
                Quote: krops777
                work in power structures


                Here is a MASTERPIECE quote from today !!!!is the first candidate for the Shnobel Prize! good wassat
                You offer everyone in the country to become cops and security guards so that some protect others, and those, in turn, do not steal from these.
                And who, sorry, amiable will produce the very benefits for the notorious security officials, whom an unthinkable amount has already bred, to be hunched over their salaries, pensions, benefits?
                I still hope that this is temporary insanity, this is some kind of trouble.
                Let's finish our dialogue, it’s difficult for me to stay within the rules. hi
                1. -16
                  10 March 2020 13: 01
                  This is a MASTERPIECE quote from today !!!! - the first candidate for the Shnobel Prize!


                  Thank you at least something. laughing
                  Well, I have at least the thoughts of a school-age child, and you have a kindergarten, no offense of course. wink
                  Yes indeed there are so many people and opinions let us finish.
              2. +5
                10 March 2020 14: 26
                You can simply cross out Norway - this is another planet
                In 2019, 1 in Oslo in an accident died (Karl-ONE !!!)
                man (and that Russian). In 2018 - 5.
                1. +1
                  10 March 2020 16: 36
                  Quote: Kushka
                  You can simply cross out Norway - this is another planet

                  This is definitely a different planet! lol They even have "tightly" sick asthmatics - champions in skiing and biathlon! laughing
              3. -1
                11 March 2020 16: 48
                Quote: krops777
                work in power structures, give birth to women more and so on.

                And what is there, etc.? Well, for example, I have a friend, an order bearer, who went to the military enlistment office. They said that he is old ...
        3. -5
          10 March 2020 14: 10
          I will not argue about the pension ... I myself am among the "victims" smile Putin is right or not I do not know ... and you too. but the fact that Russia exists as a whole and sovereign state is precisely the fault of only one person - Putin. if it weren’t for him, Russia would have been plundered, taken out and sold for a long time, and along with the oligarchs, everyone with pleasure would have taken part in it, with their hand reaching out for something that could be steamed.
      2. -7
        10 March 2020 13: 30
        Quote: KilleMall
        I think there is no reason for panic or anger. What is the price of oil $ 30? our budget is drawn up from a $ 40 oil price we get a deficit of $ 10 (in general, it’s not at all fatal considering that the NWF already has 10 trillion rubles). such a deficit can be covered for 10 years. but this is about us. and how are the enemies doing? the profitability level of shale oil production is $ 60 !!! I think a year or two and shale oil production (by the way the only thing that has ensured the growth of the American economy in recent years and dragged our Trump to Don for a second term) will be bent ... forever. what do the Saudis have? yes no better. their budget is drawn up at the rate of $ 80 ... it turns out that the annual budget deficit will be in the region of $ 100 billion. All in all, they have 500 billion foreign exchange reserves. if you pull them to a piece of iron, then it’s enough for 4-5 years ... or tighten their belts ... but only Russians can tighten their belts in this world, and while we can tolerate horseradish, someone will ruin us, and if we snot, they will gobble up and don’t choke ...

        Another fat plus - we will not date the US economy, we will forget about the "budget rule" and will not buy amerovskoe debt obligations
        1. -1
          10 March 2020 14: 14
          is this what? Now they have invested in the amount of $ 13 billion. this is against the maximum value of $ 176 billion in October 2010.
      3. Alf
        +8
        10 March 2020 19: 14
        Quote: KilleMall
        and how are the enemies doing?

        Yes, I am equally that they have. I go to stores HERE and receive RFP in rubles.
    2. +14
      10 March 2020 10: 21
      While we are writing comments on the collapse in oil prices, someone is warming his hands on our impoverishment. negative
      1. +16
        10 March 2020 10: 36
        Quote: bessmertniy
        someone warms his hands on our impoverishment.

        not someone, but specific figures of our power
        1. +10
          10 March 2020 10: 38
          The classic would say: "Their circle is terribly poor!" wink Poor on humanity and patriotism. request
        2. +7
          10 March 2020 11: 52
          Quote: Silvestr
          not someone, but specific figures of our power

          It's amazing how they still do not choke.
          1. +9
            10 March 2020 12: 06
            They just have evolved a food apparatus. They immediately eat money and get calories from them. Bypassing all sorts of intermediaries in the form of vegetables, meat and other foie gras.
          2. +9
            10 March 2020 14: 13
            Quote: Malyuta
            It's amazing how they still do not choke.

            1) The capitalist cannot choke. He does not have such a function. Its function is to profit.
            2) Our capitalists, in addition, are thieves in the literal sense of the word with property inseparable from power. That is, they need to make a profit while they are in power.
            3) RF is a country of peripheral capitalism. That is, the money goes to the West. There they are selected in one way or another. Which of these do our power-money possessors conclude? It is necessary here to steal even more and withdraw them again .....
      2. -24
        10 March 2020 11: 21
        Have you already managed to get cold? This is definitely envy! Do not scare yourself.
        1. +10
          10 March 2020 11: 58
          Quote: Victor N
          Have you already managed to get cold? This is definitely envy! Do not scare yourself.

          Why envy? The lack of power holding conscience and normal human qualities?
    3. 0
      10 March 2020 13: 29
      And let me know what it means to you to live richly?
    4. -5
      10 March 2020 13: 54
      DMB 75
      Evil is already lacking, there is nowhere to do any holes in the belt to tighten it harder, and this only adds billions to all of these crises ...

      Judging by DMB 75, you are not a young man for a long time, but in 1991 you were quite capable. So what you did not protect the socialist fatherland?
  3. +20
    10 March 2020 09: 26
    And how can an ordinary person plan something in Russia ?! Personally, I was going to change a working machine, a really working one, it earns money, to finish building a house. For this I went to a deal with the sale of part of the business, the deal, of course, in rubles. The agreements and the price are indicated, although the purchase and sale have not yet taken place. Now I think that thanks to the "real" businessmen from the oilmen my wishlist will go to dust.
    1. +5
      10 March 2020 09: 58
      Bad luck ...
      It was necessary to listen to Novak in December, already then they said that there would be no reduction in production and ... something like that was already ripening then.
      ..... I changed the car and I haven’t sold the old one yet ... we’ll see what will happen next.
      1. +9
        10 March 2020 11: 55
        Quote: rocket757
        I changed the car and I haven’t sold the old one yet ... we’ll see what will happen next.

        That's right! Only most likely gasoline will rise in price, and then the transport tax and contain two cars will be unprofitable. hi
        1. +1
          10 March 2020 12: 20
          Quote: Malyuta
          contain two cars will be unprofitable.

          I know, I tried it. Now I took a smaller typewriter, more economically real. All the same, all-terrain vehicle for fishing, four-wheel drive and the Malyavka train, there is a big difference. Already noticed on gasoline soldier
  4. 0
    10 March 2020 09: 42
    The central bank urgently needs to raise the refinancing rate to 20%, otherwise the lovers of "money out of thin air" from banking structures and black people will quickly collapse the ruble. The fall of the world economy will inevitably lead, and has already led to a fall in prices for raw materials (oil), therefore, a decrease in oil production is the right step. If the Saudis decided to dump, and lower the price per barrel to 20 green, then we need to be equal to this price. We failed to come to an agreement, and we have no other levers of pressure. And it's very bad. hi
    1. +16
      10 March 2020 10: 29
      Yeah, the central bank will now throw cash to the "affected" banks, and the government will support the affected oil producers. what And the people will be promised new increases in pensions, increased prosperity, etc. They can promise with us feel
      1. +12
        10 March 2020 11: 19
        And 25 million highly skilled and well-paid jobs!
    2. +3
      10 March 2020 12: 09
      Quote: fif21
      If the Saudis decided to dump, and lower the price per barrel to 20 green, then we need to equal that price. It did not work out, but other leverage

      We will not succeed in the Saudis lower cost of oil and transportation
  5. 0
    10 March 2020 09: 56
    The ruble fell on F o rex on a day off for Russia. What is F about rex everyone knows. There they even trade bitcoins and all kinds of candy wrappers like PPC oin, Nova-coin, Sif-coin.
    And who and how sets the courses can only guess.
    It opens MICEX -see.
    1. -4
      10 March 2020 10: 26
      There will be losses, but it cannot but be ... but something like a catastrophe is expected, this is unlikely.
      Our dear, as they say, is "wooden" ... but a large amount of the same wood is a valuable building material! and in the storehouses something was saved up, material, valuable.
    2. +11
      10 March 2020 10: 56
      Quote: Amateur
      It opens MICEX -see.

      We look. The MICEX opened with a huge gap up. Now the price is trading around 72 rubles. And it must be the same, it coincides with the "notorious" Forex (not the cuisine that is in Russia, but the main foreign exchange market of the planet) - a penny to a penny.
  6. +4
    10 March 2020 10: 39
    Well, if the anti-crisis billions are given to someone, then, of course, the oligarchs, as it was already at the turn of 2008 and 2009 or after the “Crimean spring”. The public will be presented with some kind of epic anti-crisis plan with the final clamping of the money supply. In conditions when the fall in prices did not affect everything, but only oil and the native ruble, and the country really faces a budget deficit and devaluation, this is a strategic decision that can only be considered correct from the point of view of cannibalistic liberal economic theories.

    You can’t say better. Just someone decided that it was time to transfer money from the NWF to their personal accounts.
  7. +12
    10 March 2020 11: 14
    There is no reason to panic ...
    But for sure, gasoline, utilities, tuition / kindergartens will be the first to rise in price ...
    And the price of bread, cucumbers, tomatoes and meat, and so constantly creeps up ....

    And EDRo is already winning. They will accept the constitution, and the places of senators in the pocket ...
  8. +7
    10 March 2020 11: 18
    Who now recalls how many Pu shares of Lehman Brothers were bought a few months before bankruptcy in 2008?

    And this next failure (and this is a failure - to sign that the Saudis have more influence on the oil / ruble than Pu and his team - a demonstrative flogging ..) will soon be forgotten.
  9. -3
    10 March 2020 11: 44
    I don’t understand: the price of oil has fallen. But have they started selling more in Russia? And if so, the total revenue has not changed? Well, to within certain rounding off ... And if so, then with what fear of money to the budget through the payment of severance tax will fall less? Profit tax on oil companies will fall. But I don’t think that he was the key one in budget revenues. And if so, then such a significant increase in the exchange rate is either speculative games or criminal machinations. Moreover, the first = the second. Maybe it's time to touch the regulator "for the udder". I mean, on a bunk for sabotage work against Russia. And yet, I do not think that our beloved owners of the oil industry are to blame. They just always want to sell the people's property at a higher price. But she "did not shmogla". And one more thing: oil is getting cheaper, but petrol is getting more expensive in Russia - that's why the guilty should be punished ... Where is the antimonopoly committee? Sleeping ...
    1. +1
      10 March 2020 14: 37
      Quote: Alexander X
      I don’t understand: the price of oil has fallen. But did they sell more in Russia?

      Simply put, the Russian economy is as follows: they sold oil and gas; for the amount received, they bought industrial goods from China, the West, Japan, and the South Caucasus. At the same time, the Russian economy is inscribed in the world, that is, there is free circulation of currency and capital.
      If the price of oil falls, then foreign exchange earnings will fall, because a fall in prices does not automatically lead to an increase in demand. For example, Gazprom (gas is tied to oil) now exports less gas while prices are falling. Demand in the domestic market is not too important for the Russian economy due to the weak development of domestic production and low purchasing power of the population.
      Quote: Alexander X
      .. And if so, then from what fright money will fall less into the budget through the payment of mineral extraction tax?

      Both mineral extraction tax and excise taxes depend on the price of world exchanges. For example, if the price of Urals is 15 mineral extraction tax at all, so that the mineral extraction tax does not decrease too much, you have to drop the ruble exchange rate. It is also written in the formula.
  10. +6
    10 March 2020 11: 58
    Gasoline will rise again. In any case
  11. +4
    10 March 2020 12: 06
    "This is worse than a crime. This is a mistake" This is a planned action. 1) sold a large amount of gold to Great Britain, so the money needs to be converted into rubles at a good rate.
    2) The United States has not signed any agreements on the adjustment of oil production with OPEC + RF ..
    3) The need to lower shale oil production in the USA .. (Novak confirmed - the action was planned, Trump is in shock, we are waiting for new sanctions) 5) To limit the population’s travel abroad ... not everyone can afford it ..
  12. +4
    10 March 2020 12: 34
    Well ... Gasoline will go up. Right
  13. BAI
    +3
    10 March 2020 13: 01
    Already, many experts are warning: a sharp rise in the price of the dollar and the euro and a weakening ruble will primarily affect the prices of imported goods, cars, equipment, clothes and shoes, and even something to the table.

    I am not an expert, but I guarantee - first of all, gasoline will rise in price. And he will pull everything else.
  14. 0
    10 March 2020 14: 03
    An article to read diagonally.
  15. -3
    10 March 2020 15: 02
    At the moment, forecasting oil quotes and the ruble exchange rate is akin to picking your nose - the situation will settle down no earlier than a week later.

    My forecast is simple - the United States holds Saudi Arabia for eggs (the kingdom stores its foreign exchange reserves in US currency), so the price of oil is stabilizing at $ 45 per barrel (exactly the same as the cost of shale oil). The ruble will, as always, fluctuate between 60-70 dollars in connection with the depreciation of the US currency from the fall in stock prices and bonds on US exchanges.

    Another thing is that the United States, due to a sharp slowdown in the production of everything and everything in China and Europe due to the coronavirus, may fall into the second Great Depression of the 1929 model. Then, it will not seem to us much either (due to the integration of the Russian Federation into the world economy), although the ruble will cost $ 1.

    But we have a worked-out option - we will trade as the Russian Empire and the USSR with our exclusive renewable resource - grain (thank God for global warming) laughing
  16. +1
    10 March 2020 15: 19
    Some dancers and their own ....... oil and gas fields interfere.
    What a society is, so is the ruling class of this society. It is not lowered from the sky to anyone on parachutes. They are given golden parachutes, on the contrary, when they leave for their children and granddaughters "abroad."

    It is clear that wise men and tough pros are not the ones who can advance in our country. Because the word "authority" in our society does not refer to them at all.
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  18. +4
    10 March 2020 15: 48
    Quote: Victor N
    Essential goods are ALREADY not imported into the country, so no mass impoverishment is foreseen. The rise in the cost of imports is a preference for the development of our own enterprises, let us use them, since we work there. And we will make money on this. The mention of "oligarchs" is a mark - the author is trying to nightmare the gullible public. For safety reasons it is better not to go "over the hill" now. The economy and the consumer sector are already extremely over-credited.
    But it’s worth thinking about this: the petrodollar market is shrinking, but where will the released funds go? In gold, of course, but somewhere else. Who guesses will work well.

    It reminds me of the collapse of 2014. A man with two higher educations explained to me that this would not affect him since he receives his salary in rubles. When meeting, I always remind this weirdo our conversation laughing
  19. +1
    10 March 2020 16: 07
    Quote: Invoce
    Quote: KilleMall
    I think there is no reason for panic or anger. What is the price of oil $ 30? our budget is drawn up from a $ 40 oil price we get a deficit of $ 10 (in general, it’s not at all fatal considering that the NWF already has 10 trillion rubles). such a deficit can be covered for 10 years. but this is about us. and how are the enemies doing? the profitability level of shale oil production is $ 60 !!! I think a year or two and shale oil production (by the way the only thing that has ensured the growth of the American economy in recent years and dragged our Trump to Don for a second term) will be bent ... forever. what do the Saudis have? yes no better. their budget is drawn up at the rate of $ 80 ... it turns out that the annual budget deficit will be in the region of $ 100 billion. All in all, they have 500 billion foreign exchange reserves. if you pull them to a piece of iron, then it’s enough for 4-5 years ... or tighten their belts ... but only Russians can tighten their belts in this world, and while we can tolerate horseradish, someone will ruin us, and if we snot, they will gobble up and don’t choke ...

    Another fat plus - we will not date the US economy, we will forget about the "budget rule" and will not buy amerovskoe debt obligations

  20. 0
    10 March 2020 17: 04
    Invest in new technologies and startups. Find New People. ...
  21. 0
    10 March 2020 17: 38
    "Prices in the domestic market can be clamped in only one way: to completely stop the circulation of money." - ABOUT HOW !!!!!
    Obviously, the relationship "supply of a product on the market - its cost" is unfamiliar to the author. What does he know? He is familiar with the trick on the stock exchanges ..., with a clever vidos in glasses
    I will open the segred: if "a lot of bread (" machines, machine tools, factories, steamers ") has been baked and sooooo much has been brought to the buns, then its price will not change." The same applies to shorts and T-shirts, and to pens and condoms, and to milk and sour cream. Do not believe me, see the development of the Chinese economy.
    But if an "effective banker-broker" interferes in the pricing process (between an honest manufacturer and an honest seller / buyer) (who has never done anything with his hands and cannot do anything), then dances with tambourines begin ...
    And if on the largest territory in the world (the Russian Federation, for example) our wonderful effective and effective managers cannot sell the goods zaaaa .... RUBLES (!!!!!!! AND WHY DALARDS ON THE TERRITORY OF THE RF?!?!?! ?!), a lot of questions arise, including: "Why do you need dalyards? Didn't you dare to fade away? What are we buying over the hill for green ones? But you can't make this product yourself? But what about imparta replacement?"
  22. +2
    10 March 2020 17: 56
    The rich are always guilty of the poor and blown away for everything. It’s a pity that Comrade Stalin is not, for every mistake has a position last name, first name and middle name.
  23. 0
    10 March 2020 18: 16
    The trick is that all these gentlemen, comrades from the photograph and others like them, do not store their assets and savings in rubles. fellow
  24. +4
    10 March 2020 18: 54
    Quote: bandabas
    The trick is that all these gentlemen, comrades from the photograph and others like them, do not store their assets and savings in rubles. fellow

    The trick is that when day d comes and the electoral mass goes to disposal these comrades (whom the electoral mass brought to power) will dump our good
  25. 0
    10 March 2020 19: 08
    Already, many experts are warning: a sharp rise in the price of the dollar and the euro and the weakening of the ruble will primarily affect the prices of imported goods, cars, equipment, clothes and shoes, and even something to the table. Foreign trips will also become more expensive, but all this is not a cause for panic at all. How is it? Lada, potato, iPhones change to xiomi) and on vacation to Lake Baikal) ideal citizen))
    1. Alf
      0
      11 March 2020 18: 29
      Quote: Tonya
      Already, many experts are warning: a sharp rise in the price of the dollar and the euro and a weakening ruble will primarily affect the prices of imported goods, cars, equipment, clothes and shoes, and even something to the table.

      Today, Deputy Prime Minister Belousov said that it is PROBABLY (of course, likely) the rise in price of household appliances and medicines. But how is it, because the iPhone gave a tooth that 80% of the drugs have already been imported? Here I recall the phrase about cowards and a cross ...
  26. 0
    10 March 2020 20: 08
    as always, someone is fighting, and forelocks will crack at us
  27. +2
    10 March 2020 23: 12
    For some reason, the second part of the consequences of the trade war is not mentioned at all. Namely .... The Saudis not only collapse oil prices and increase production from April 1. But on April 1, they offer a discount of almost $ 10 for buyers of Russian oil. That is, they reduce not only the price, but also encroach on Russian sales markets.
    https://www.forbes.ru/newsroom/biznes/394563-saudovskaya-araviya-nachala-cenovuyu-voynu-v-otvet-na-sryv-neftyanoy-sdelki-s
  28. 0
    11 March 2020 08: 32
    A tough dumping fight has begun, in which the Russian Federation considers itself stronger than its opponents and is ready for a bargain with the expectation that the enemy will capitulate earlier. Until that moment, Putin tried to avoid such actions in every possible way, since it was easy to start a showdown, but you could lose it, and only when there was no choice did the force method go into action.

    And oil can be used domestically by lowering fuel prices and sharply promoting industry.
    1. Alf
      -1
      11 March 2020 18: 33
      Quote: EvilLion
      lowering fuel prices

      Ek, you, my friend, said! And who will compensate for the drop in income of oil magnates?
      Quote: EvilLion
      sharply promoting industry.

      Don't you believe our financiers who say that injecting money from the nest egg into the real sector of the economy will cause a sharp jump in inflation? And preventing inflation at all costs is the basis of the economic policies of the current leadership.
  29. 0
    11 March 2020 11: 00
    Quote: Tonya
    Already, many experts are warning: a sharp rise in the price of the dollar and the euro and the weakening of the ruble will primarily affect the prices of imported goods, cars, equipment, clothes and shoes, and even something to the table. Foreign trips will also become more expensive, but all this is not a cause for panic at all. How is it? Lada, potato, iPhones change to xiomi) and on vacation to Lake Baikal) ideal citizen))


    It's simple: if office "X" for an expensive dollar cannot sell its planned "100" goods on the side, then this office "X" is bankrupt. Or, at least, it will receive less revenue from which this office "X" pays salary, taxes, utilities, and so on.
    As a result, under normal conditions, the value of the goods in bucks begins .... to fall, thereby creating a balance. Or the currency begins to stabilize (which is happening, by the way).
    This is a principle, an axiom of a market economy, incl. and world. Including and in mechanical engineering, and in the travel industry. Everywhere...
    You just need to work and at the same time .... EARN.
  30. 0
    11 March 2020 18: 16
    However, by and large, we would somehow agree with Riyadh

    That’s what is most important not only angers, but specifically annoys in this whole situation, is the understanding of the fact that the previous collapse of the ruble in 2008 and 2014 taught absolutely nothing. As we sat tied to the oil industry and those who depended on it, we are sitting. Although the time to invest in the development of production and viola. energy was more than enough. Even after the end of the "fat" XNUMXs.
    And now it is necessary to negotiate not with Riyadh, but with the Houthis or with whom the Saudis are still fighting there. To "bombed out" the Saudi fields
  31. 0
    11 March 2020 20: 07
    Quote: Silvestr
    Maybe so with Mishustin?

    Or with someone very dear to him:

    "Hero of the Bottom
    Igor Sechin split OPEC and made the market panic. What will happen to the Russian economy now? "


    https://novayagazeta.ru/articles/2020/03/09/84231-geroy-dna

    "There used to be the Medvedev government, which somewhat curbed Sechin's appetites: he was not given permission to project financing from NWF, delayed the decision on benefits for his mega-projects. The "oil lobby", which included the curator of the fuel and energy complex and industry Dmitry Kozak, Finance Minister Anton Siluanov and even Medvedev himself, did not agree with Sechin's plans. "

    It turns out that the NWF does not exist to support retirees (as indicated on the Ministry of Finance website), but to support large financial corporations.
    The theater of the absurd, they play the oil swing, and the shortfall in revenues from the collapse of oil prices will get on the domestic market. Today Novak promised that the price of gasoline in Russia will not increase much!
    They are sure that people do not understand anything.
  32. +1
    11 March 2020 21: 02
    That in '14 they screamed how I would become ill, that they were crowing now ... but I still don’t notice ... I won’t be able to constantly change the car (as commentators write, damn it’s poor), they buy equipment every now and then ... xs, that and the clothes are getting more expensive .. only I don’t notice everything, strangeness ... or rather nonsense! I remember the first system unit I bought for $ 500, in 2001-2, then it’s about 10 tr, open sites, for the same price in relation to a year with the same performance, buy the same for 10 tr But the dollar has become twice as expensive, so what is it?
  33. 0
    11 March 2020 23: 20
    Quote: Dmitry Winner
    For some reason, the second part of the consequences of the trade war is not mentioned at all.

    I wonder how now to prove that Russia is not an aggressive state, since it became the instigator of the global fire?
    But in general, our elite dropped their masks - everything goes to the Ukrainian Maidan, but now not in Ukraine, but in our country.
    The "5th Column" owns too much, but wants to own everything.
    1. 0
      12 March 2020 01: 50
      svoit Yesterday, 23:20
      0
      Quote: Dmitry Winner
      For some reason, the second part of the consequences of the trade war is not mentioned at all.

      I wonder how now to prove that Russia is not an aggressive state, since it became the instigator world fire?
      And on what horizon, may I ask, did you see this "fire"? request
      But in general, our elite dropped their masks - everything goes to the Ukrainian Maidan, but now not in Ukraine, but in our country.
      And here you, my friend, have definitely had enough.
      The 5th Column owns too much but wants to own everything.
      I agree, but not in EVERYTHING. At least the law enforcement component (as in any NORMAL state) of Russia is up to the mark, and it obeys - you yourself know whom.
  34. 0
    12 March 2020 01: 45
    One of the few noteworthy article. No panic, prudently and accurately.
    1. 0
      12 March 2020 19: 34
      Let prices not creep up, we need to make changes to the taxation system, specifically we need two new taxes, a sales tax like in the USA and a progressive excess profit tax, they will reduce the chain of reseller intermediaries together, which will stop speculative and rush prices and stop the ruble falling, and existing income taxes at a rate of 20% and VAT should be noted in general in connection with a special situation, by the way income tax is a rather muddy taxable base (according to the tax code), which many taxpayers actively use.
  35. +1
    14 March 2020 22: 02
    "What do we do with this oil?"
    Previously, they just raised gas prices. Surely now they will raise both gasoline and the rest ...

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