Media: The decision to exit the deal for oil production was made by Saudi Arabia


Some details about the problems of the OPEC + deal became known. Recall that earlier it was reported that Russia was leaving it, which supposedly led to a sharp decrease in oil prices - by more than 30 percent for the first time since the beginning of the 1990s. A barrel of Brent fell to $ 31.


Now, as the media write with reference to senior sources, it turns out that Russia did not withdraw from the previous deal and even advocated its extension after March 31.

Reportedly, the decision to exit the deal was made by Riyadh. It is alleged that the Saudi authorities were planning to use the COVID-19 epidemic in order to make the costs of reducing oil production more borne by countries outside of OPEC. In other words, Saudi Arabia wanted the signatories to reduce production, and Riyadh itself, without signing an agreement, would be able to increase these volumes.

It was previously stated that Russia was exploring options for exiting OPEC +, which suggested new reductions in oil production.

Recall that after the fall in oil prices there was a collapse in the stock markets. Almost all the main quotes went to the “red”. The reason also lies in the uncertainty of large players who expect to concretize the data on how much demand will be those volumes of "black gold" that are mined by leading exporting countries.
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  1. Hunter 2 10 March 2020 06: 23 New
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    Today will be an “interesting” day - on the Russian Stock Market, regardless of who started the process and exited the oil transaction.
    The collapse of the World Exchanges (yesterday), when We rested and congratulated Our Beloved Women, confirms this.
    1. vadson 10 March 2020 06: 36 New
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      Well, a bunch of speculators for breakfast will choke, neither cold nor hot ...
      1. Den717 10 March 2020 06: 51 New
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        Quote: vadson
        Well, a bunch of speculators for breakfast will choke, neither cold nor hot ...

        Someone will choke, and someone will jump out of the office window .... Speculators are comrades emotional ... laughing
        1. vadson 10 March 2020 06: 55 New
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          Yefim yes died with him.
          1. Tatyana 10 March 2020 11: 00 New
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            Well, finally they called the true culprit of the collapse of "OPEC +" - "Saudi Arabia", otherwise all the bumps fell to Russia.
            And what is noteworthy for females is that in yesterday’s article, “An expert called the situation on the oil market“ a war declared by Saudi Arabia ”,” my comment is as follows
            The expert called the situation on the oil market “a war declared by Saudi Arabia”
            I heard this news at 8:00 in the morning - I thought the same about SA.

            I remembered the events of Soviet times, when the Saudis, in agreement with the United States, in exchange for modern scientific and technological technologies lowered oil prices - and the economy of the USSR and the countries of the socialist camp rolled down.
            Now the exact same geopolitical PROXY-acceptance of the US strike on the Russian economy in the person of SA has been adopted.

            44% of the site’s members took hostility: “against” 26, “for” 33.

            It turns out that 44% of people who are interested in politics, in a critical sense, still do not quite adequately perceive the past historical world experience. Those. Western liberal propaganda in recent years gives its NEGATIVE results in relation to our country, including the Russian Federation. It's a pity!

            The truth propaganda for Russia needs to be strengthened!
            1. Tatyana 10 March 2020 12: 14 New
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              If Russia sees that contrary to the OPEC + agreement The 2 main players only increase production, the USA - openly, CA - secretly!
              So why in these conditions should Russia behave somehow differently and fall under the dictates of Saudi Arabia and the USA ?!
            2. DymOk_v_dYmke 10 March 2020 12: 23 New
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              Quote: Tatiana
              I remembered the events of Soviet times, when the Saudis, in agreement with the United States, in exchange for modern scientific and technological technologies lowered oil prices - and the economy of the USSR and the countries of the socialist camp rolled down.

              The economy of the USSR and the countries of the socialist camp rolled down as a result of the Gorbachev ban on settlements in transferable rubles and the introduction of settlements in dollars.
              The oil price has a tenth role in this collapse.
              1. Tatyana 10 March 2020 12: 36 New
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                Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
                The economy of the USSR and the countries of the socialist camp rolled down as a result of the Gorbachev ban on settlements in transferable rubles and the introduction of settlements in dollars.The oil price has a tenth role in this collapse.
                Well, here again, "25" !!! You confuse historical causes and effects.

                It all started with the crisis of 1973, after which the leadership of the USSR made a bet on the sale of Russian oil in the world CAPITALIST market for foreign currency, for $$, and so on as a result of abuse resulting from this decision.
                1. atalef 10 March 2020 12: 42 New
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                  Quote: Tatiana
                  a bid for the sale of Russian oil on the world CAPITALIST market for foreign currency, for $$, and so on as a result of abuses resulting from this decision.

                  the economy went to hell, and then easy money.
                  1. Tatyana 10 March 2020 13: 01 New
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                    Quote: atalef
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    a bid for the sale of Russian oil on the world CAPITALIST market for foreign currency, for $$, and so on as a result of abuses resulting from this decision.
                    the economy went to hell, and then easy money.
                    More precisely, it was not quite so. Namely.

                    The crisis of 1973 was in world-class capitalist countries and it was not so simple to maintain the Soviet Union socialist camp countries. But the opportunity arose for the USSR to earn on the capitalist market in oil. At that time, the liberal-rebirth "perestroika" fever "above", uncontrolled from below, began in party circles. After all, Khrushchev after the death of Stalin immediately abolished the Stalinist responsibility of party members for sabotage and abuse on the ground, and also announcing in 1961 that "the Soviet people in 1980 will live under communism," in essence replaced the communist upbringing of Soviet people by their subjective worldview education of market CONSUMPTION in the country. Here are the "tops" morally and blossomed! And with the advent of Gorbachev and Yeltsin, the USSR was gone.
                    1. atalef 10 March 2020 13: 39 New
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                      Quote: Tatiana
                      The 1973 crisis was in world-class capitalism

                      world-class capitalism countries ?????
                      Sho tse take?
                      The crisis provoked the oil embargo of the Arab countries in response to their defeat in the Arab-Israeli war, which was largely provoked and paid for by the USSR.
                      Quote: Tatiana
                      and it was not so easy to contain the Soviet Unions of the country of the social camp

                      The earth has the shape of a suitcase, and life goes in a spiral. Do not dig another hole.
                      Quote: Tatiana
                      But the opportunity arose for the USSR to earn on the capitalist market in oil

                      even if it’s enough, otherwise the USSR would fall apart already in the 70s
                      Quote: Tatiana
                      After all, Khrushchev after the death of Stalin immediately abolished the Stalinist responsibility of party members for sabotage and abuse on the ground, and also announcing in 1961 that "the Soviet people in 1980 will live under communism

                      That one lie, that the second.
                      Khrushchev is to blame for you, Brezhnev introduced this responsibility after him ??? Oh identity.
                      Quote: Tatiana
                      replaced the communist education of Soviet people

                      Tatyana - you are not in a rural club on propaganda - what the hell is communist education, where?
                      Quote: Tatiana
                      education of market CONSUMPTION in the country. Here are the "tops" morally and blossomed!

                      Consumerism in the USSR laughing
                      With a general deficit.
                      Tatyana, I was not born yesterday.
                      1. Tatyana 10 March 2020 14: 07 New
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                        Quote: atalef
                        Consumerism, in the USSR With a general deficit. Tatiana, I was born yesterday.

                        Your right to disagree with me. However, I note to you that you live in Israel, and I am the USSR / RF. And each of us from his bell tower of visibility and presence evaluates this situation.

                        The artificial deficit under Gorbachev and on the orders of Gorbachev himself cannot be compared with full-fledged national consumption of the early 1960s.
                        On the shelves of the early 1960s in large cities was everything.
        2. loki565 10 March 2020 06: 58 New
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          Someone will choke, and someone will jump out of the office window .... Speculators are comrades emotional ... laughing
          ,
          I immediately remembered one rather funny series)))
          1. Den717 10 March 2020 07: 02 New
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            Quote: loki565
            I immediately remembered one rather funny series)))

            That’s how I imagined it ... laughing
      2. Malyuta 10 March 2020 07: 05 New
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        Quote: vadson
        Well, a bunch of speculators for breakfast will choke, neither cold nor hot ...

        The domestic oligarchy will get its money on the domestic market, that is, from the people, and through the lips of the evening M, the drain tank and the litter-tv they will prove that they are great, but the damned Saudis, tinnitus, pooping, Georgians, Balts, cough, runny nose, warm winter, the Gulf Stream does not give them fruitful trade in oil and gas.
      3. vladimirvn 10 March 2020 08: 59 New
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        Today you will be both cold and hot when you see prices for imported goods or components that include them.
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      1. carstorm 11 10 March 2020 06: 47 New
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        who said that Russia came out? any document is possible?) or blah blah blah blah I think so?) what does the holiday have to do with it?) and by the way they write about this not from Rosneft but The Wall Street Journal for example.
        1. rocket757 10 March 2020 07: 06 New
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          Quote: carstorm 11
          who said that Russia came out? any document is possible?) or blah blah blah blah I think so?) what does the holiday have to do with it?) and by the way they write about this not from Rosneft but The Wall Street Journal for example.

          There was a lot to say, including Novak said they take a timeout, to be precise.
          The bidding is going on and will continue .... these are economic interests involved in geopolitics ...
          In general, nothing new, including and the fact that the Russian authorities warned OPEC back in December that they couldn’t make production cuts, for many reasons .... that is, Russia's actions were predetermined last year, about which OPEC was informed then !!!
          So who started this bodyagie now, the question is not rhetorical !!!
          1. carstorm 11 10 March 2020 07: 18 New
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            exactly. what I’m talking about. in order to make such statements, for a start you need to at least study the issue and not to state something that wasn’t even so confident.
          2. depressant 10 March 2020 08: 44 New
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            That's right, rocket757!
            Especially taking into account the fact that yesterday small and medium-sized businesses, as well as self-employed, increased their contributions to the pension fund and the health insurance fund by more than 2 times. It seems to be 5. With a hypocritical statement by the government that taxes on small and medium-sized businesses will not increase. Do not wash so ride! Further, this means the collapse of the small numbers of small numbers, unemployment, and shadow casting as a result of the open and irreconcilable struggle of big capital against small competitors that threaten to grow to large ones. And this is against the background of large trade with the State Duma on the content of the business law, according to which business cannot be taken from the "captains" of the mining industry - under no circumstances!
            But greed has no limits. After crushing domestic competitors yesterday with the help of the compliant Duma and continuing to trade with it under the business law, and in fact putting pressure on the country's political leadership, today, with the history of oil, big capital will crush us all if food prices rush up, amid arrogant demands to compensate the “captains” for the shortfall in income from the National Welfare Fund. And this is so understandable to everyone that even these completely overgrown impudent ones are backtracking: it’s not us who left the deal with OPEC, this is OPEC!
            As you wish, but it doesn’t climb into any gates.
            1. rocket757 10 March 2020 09: 04 New
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              Quote: depressant
              With a hypocritical statement by the government that taxes on small and medium-sized businesses will not increase. Do not wash so ride!

              The topic is serious, it requires an attentive attitude, knowledge .... not my topic, I see no reason to argue.
              But greed has no limits.

              This is capitalism, with all the consequences .... nothing new, in general, it is useless to compare sales, since many countries have already passed a similar period, settled down with them.
              Quote: depressant
              big business will crush us all

              We will just look, but not from the outside, which is very sad.
              Are there other options ???
          3. SSR
            SSR 10 March 2020 09: 17 New
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            Quote: rocket757
            So who started this bodyagie now, the question is not rhetorical !!!

            But most of the members of the forum, yesterday immediately broke and began, - Sterkhsil, threw the oligarchy, and so on.
            The people live in the thirty-year past, they forget that our hucksters used to strive to embrace the West, and when they realized that they were "sharks" like fodder there, they began to at least somehow defend their interests taking into account national and citizenship.
            Excessive posts are already annoying, instead of discussing clogging up the forum.
            1. rocket757 10 March 2020 09: 39 New
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              Quote: SSR
              Our hucksters previously sought to embrace the West, and when they realized that they were "sharks" there as fodder, they began to at least somehow defend their interests, taking into account national and civic affiliations.

              The instinct of self-preservation, the desire to have and does not share!
              We, of course, are crumbs ... but to argue that after the merger, redistribution with the Western "partners" we would have become better, it’s completely impossible!
              As always - If yes, if only ... you don’t try, you don’t know! But somehow I don’t even want to try, we ourselves, with our "rake" will figure it out ... we’ll really fill the cones, that's how it should be.
              1. SSR
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                Quote: rocket757
                As always - If yes, if only ... you don’t try, you don’t know! But somehow I don’t even want to try, we ourselves, with our "rake" will figure it out ... we’ll really fill the cones, that's how it should be.

                Hence the saying. - For one beaten, two unbeaten give.
                As well as the fact that one mankurt for ten slaves was changed. But we are not mankurts.
                1. rocket757 10 March 2020 11: 29 New
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                  Of course, they will not let us live, work, just as we want, but they didn’t begin to break everything at once.
                  Change habits, nature, for the sake of someone there ... brrrr do not want to. We ourselves will better change how much this is required and possible.
        2. Mitroha 10 March 2020 07: 12 New
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          carstorm11
          Do you think it is important for him to write or know the truth? It is important for him to throw on the fan, and here all the words are good, even "Argentine cement"
          He doesn’t give a damn that “she has come out of the agreement” and “did not sign new agreements” completely different things
        3. Malyuta 10 March 2020 07: 16 New
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          Quote: carstorm 11
          who said that Russia came out? any document is possible?) or blah blah blah blah I think so?) what does the holiday have to do with it?) and by the way they write about this not from Rosneft but The Wall Street Journal for example.

          You need and you are looking, but I will say one thing, the contract was to be valid until April 1, and the Saudis proposed to reduce production after the 1st one, ours were against !!!!
          1. carstorm 11 10 March 2020 07: 34 New
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            Firstly it was not supposed to be valid until April 1. The parties to the transaction could not agree because of the position of Russia, which does not intend to further reduce fuel production in the expectation of a further reduction in prices and is ready only for an extension under current conditions. From April, parties to the transaction will be released from obligations to reduce production
            secondly, that we could not be reduced long before this meeting. we cannot technologically.
            1. depressant 10 March 2020 08: 51 New
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              Then explain why the Saudis easily reduce production and increase it with the same ease, but conditionally “ours” cannot. Technologically? Is the crane designed to spin only one way? So change the tap! Or conditional crane - exorbitant greed contrary to the interests of the country?
              1. Po-tzan 10 March 2020 10: 18 New
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                Quote: depressant
                So change the tap!


                It is impossible. If not a crane, then who? Bulk or what?
                1. Tatyana 10 March 2020 11: 48 New
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                  Quote: carstorm 11
                  Firstly it was not supposed to be valid until April 1. The parties to the transaction could not agree because of the position of Russia, which does not intend to further reduce fuel production in the expectation of a further reduction in prices and is ready only for an extension under current conditions. Starting in April, the parties to the transaction will be relieved of their obligations to reduce the production of the second that we couldn’t reduce long before this meeting. we cannot technologically.
                  Add to that more.

                  Because Russia sees that contrary to the OPEC + agreement 2 main players only step up prey USA - open, CA - secretly! So why in these conditions should Russia behave differently ?!
              2. carstorm 11 10 March 2020 10: 31 New
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                the question is not for me. not my area. I focus on the statements of companies and analysts. those who are in the subject. I think there are those who will explain this to you from a professional point of view.
            2. Malyuta 10 March 2020 12: 37 New
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              Quote: carstorm 11
              The parties to the transaction could not agree because of the position of Russia, which does not intend to further reduce fuel production

              Some troll went strange now, at first he bucked, then admitted that the agreements did not happen because of Russia, or rather not because of Russia, and those who pursue their own selfish interests on her behalf.
              1. carstorm 11 10 March 2020 22: 15 New
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                are you literate try to read and delve into the meaning of what is written and not to be rude.
      2. Victor_B 10 March 2020 06: 57 New
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        Quote: Malyuta
        By the greed and shortsightedness of her leaders from the authorities and from the oil lobby of the Russian Federation, she shot herself not even in the foot, but in the head into which they eat and smell the Argentine cement.
        Do not count your chickens before they are hatched.
        There is no turning back.
        Actually, we live under capitalism (we still have it wild), so for Rosneft, in the person of Sechin, they don’t give a damn about the interests of the country.
        The first paragraph in the charter of Rosneft (as well as all / different LLC, CJSC, etc.) - RECEIVING PROFIT!
        And they depend on the size of profit, including Sechin’s grandmother and the entire top management.
        1. Glory1974 10 March 2020 09: 44 New
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          And they depend on the size of profit, including Sechin’s grandmother and the entire top management.

          Unfortunately, in our country the salary of “effective managers” does not depend on the final result.
          1. carstorm 11 10 March 2020 10: 34 New
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            in general, it depends if the companies are not state-owned. and it depends very much)
      3. Ka-52 10 March 2020 06: 58 New
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        By the greed and shortsightedness of her leaders from the authorities and from the oil lobby of the Russian Federation, she shot herself not even in the foot, but in the head into which they eat and smell the Argentine cement.

        Mr. Esperd of the oil market, there are far more cause and effect relationships on this market than you think. And who would benefit from this agreement is not always visible from our level. At high oil prices, shale oil production in the USA actually rose. In fact, in 3 years she made a mattress from the largest importer of oil to one of its largest exporters. When five years ago, quotes fell from the blessed 100 dollars per bar for American shales, almost half of the American mining companies went to the world.
        1. Malyuta 10 March 2020 07: 12 New
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          Quote: Ka-52
          When five years ago, quotes fell from the blessed 100 dollars per bar for American shales, almost half of the American mining companies went to the world.

          It is with these words that the Sechin’s domestic "flushing cisterns’ will be маз otmazat ’; there is no need to go to the grandmother.
          Everything that will happen in our domestic market will concern each of us and will affect all prices of products, goods, services and utilities, without exception!
          1. Ka-52 10 March 2020 08: 52 New
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            It is with these words that the Sechin’s domestic "flushing cisterns’ will be маз otmazat ’; there is no need to go to the grandmother.

            it was I who spit on Sechin and all the fuss with the oil market. So find another armored car for screaming - this one is broken.
            Everything that will happen in our domestic market will concern each of us and will affect all prices of products, goods, services and utilities, without exception!

            if everyone runs and screams as half-witted, then yes, it will. And so I personally think that there is no real reason for a long-term crisis. And there are purely speculative jumps up and down. And after a short time, everything will again return to the middle derivative.
            1. Malyuta 10 March 2020 12: 43 New
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              Quote: Ka-52
              At high oil prices, shale oil production in the USA actually rose. In fact, in 3 years she made a mattress from the largest importer of oil to one of its largest exporters. When five years ago, quotes fell from the blessed 100 dollars per bar for American shales, almost half of the American mining companies went to the world.

              And what are you all, citizen, worried about the trick? Do you have a personal interest there? Do they have a dollar collapse?
              You, a citizen, are trying to "ride", but it is not clear for whom, or for local bourgeois, or for American bourgeois.
              You really don’t understand that for the population everything will go up uniquely, while pensions and salaries will remain the same or are you fooling around?
        2. atalef 10 March 2020 11: 07 New
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          Quote: Ka-52
          When five years ago, quotes fell from the blessed 100 dollars per bar for American shales, almost half of the American mining companies went to the world.

          Well ?
          Somehow I did not notice that America’s economy went around the world, the dollar collapsed, shale oil was bent.
          Well, shales will close now, oil will rise in price - will open. Shale oil production is very dynamic, and the US economy benefits from falling oil prices more than taxes from oil shale companies.
          1. Ka-52 10 March 2020 11: 41 New
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            Well ?
            Somehow I did not notice that America’s economy went around the world, the dollar collapsed, shale oil was bent.

            the essence of the replica is not clear. Apparently you write, without even bothering to understand what you read. There is no one discussing US ECONOMY. I have highlighted it in large print especially for you. Because some private mining companies (in bold so that even with your ability to make superficial judgments you would understand the emphasis on the words "part" and "private") this is not the entire US economy. Accordingly, their situation, both prosperous and unprofitable, naturally does not undermine the entire economic power of the country.
            But what can bring prosperity to this American industry is constant attempts to squeeze the market from Russian oil and gas companies. However, this is of little interest to you. America is more expensive for you)
            1. atalef 10 March 2020 12: 02 New
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              Quote: Ka-52
              But what can bring prosperity to this American industry is the constant attempts to squeeze the market from Russian oil and gas companies.

              And what each state has a clearly allocated oil piece?
              Oil trading - spot.
              often a tanker is resold many times until it reaches the end user.
              No - a piece of Russia, a piece of Nigeria, a piece of Iran or Norway - there is one big bazaar.
              If each country had its own piece, then OPEC did not need to create and the Americans pushing up the share in the sale of oil in the common pie equally apply to all market players and Saudi Arabia as well.
              Only the price plays a role here - Saudia is now crushing both US shale oil and Russian oil at the cost, and indeed anyone who offers it to the market more than Saudi oil.
              1. Ka-52 10 March 2020 12: 27 New
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                And what each state has a clearly allocated oil piece?

                yeah? Now you’ll probably tell about the cleanliness of the market, about the absence of lobbying by governments for the interests of their own oil and gas sectors. Then it is not clear what the US government cares about Nord Stream-2 against the background of Trump's statements in Davos ....
                No - a piece of Russia, a piece of Nigeria, a piece of Iran or Norway - there is one big bazaar.

                What are you? And I thought that each plot has its own columns filled with signs, as in the Union on potatoes from the enterprise laughing you will begin to acquaint me with the Primer laughing
                Only the price plays a role here - Saudia is now crushing both US shale oil and Russian oil at the cost, and indeed anyone who offers it to the market more than Saudi oil.

                only breakeven level of American production is, as it were, 2 times higher than Russian. Therefore, strategically (with the threat of losing part of the market) it is more profitable to dump, but to keep the market. These are axioms of the market, not your elementary arguments.
                there is no desire to discuss the gas shale topic. There are already so many speculations and nonsense
                1. atalef 10 March 2020 12: 39 New
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                  Quote: Ka-52
                  yeah, wow! Now you’ll probably tell about the cleanliness of the market, about the absence on it of lobbying by governments for the interests of their own oil and gas sectors

                  lobbying - of course lobbying, only to the buyer to the bulb - the price is what determines the purchase.
                  Quote: Ka-52
                  What are you? And I thought that every plot, its columns are clogged

                  you were wrong
                  Quote: Ka-52
                  only breakeven level of American production is, as it were, 2 times higher than Russian

                  so what ?
                  You mean the level of profitability.
                  Perfectly.
                  Some at a price of 65 bucks per barrel earn on it - 55, others 35, thirds - 15. Nevertheless, this does not prevent each of the producers from throwing the maximum oil that it can produce on the market (provided that it is not bound by any obligations like OPEC or OPEC +). Just everyone will earn ----- price minus profitability.
                  Nevertheless, they earn.
                  If the price drops, some will close, others will continue to mine, what is the question?
                  Quote: Ka-52
                  Therefore, strategically (with the threat of losing part of the market) it is more profitable to dump, but to keep the market.

                  Well this is what the Saudis are doing, but what's the problem?
                  1. Ka-52 10 March 2020 14: 06 New
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                    What are you? And I thought that every plot, its columns are clogged
                    you were wrong

                    ndaaaaa, people do not even understand sarcasm ...
                    You mean the level of profitability.

                    I meant what I wrote. Profitability is different. And the profitability (or profitability) of any process is understood simply: income minus expenses. If after the = sign you have a donut hole, then this means that the process is unprofitable. If you have a selling price of $ 40 for the same barrel at a production / production cost of $ 35 per barrel, then with a probability of 150% your children will still be able to repay the loans taken by the clumsy parent. Even if you commit suicide from hopelessness. That’s the whole economy.
                    Well this is what the Saudis are doing, but what's the problem?

                    Saudis are cunning, that's all. Where are the problems?
                    1. atalef 10 March 2020 14: 13 New
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                      Quote: Ka-52
                      Profitability is different.

                      can not be.
                      It’s like with pregnancy, either there is or - no.
                      Quote: Ka-52
                      And the profitability (or break-even) of any process is understood simply: income minus expenses

                      Profitability (from it. Rentabel [1] - profitable, useful, profitable), an indicator of economic efficiency

                      wink

                      Quote: Ka-52
                      If after the = sign you have a donut hole, then this means the loss-making process

                      it means - not cost-effective
                      Quote: Ka-52
                      If you have a selling price of $ 40 for the same barrel at a production / production cost of $ 35 / barrel

                      not cost effective

                      Quote: Ka-52
                      then with a probability of 150%, your children will still repay loans,

                      I think 100% is enough, by the way, why are children? And if we say LLC, then how?
                      And if a joint stock company?
                      Well this is so, take an interest in broadening your horizons.

                      Quote: Ka-52
                      That’s the whole economy.

                      Is that all?
                      Quote: Ka-52
                      The Saudis are cunning, and you are naive.

                      If you are so smart, why so poor? wink
    3. vadimtt 10 March 2020 06: 59 New
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      Time to buy laughing
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        Time to buy laughing

        Time to step aside and wait.
    4. Thrifty 10 March 2020 07: 39 New
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      The Saudi tramp for this “democratic” bombs and missiles, "into the future" in the Stone Age does not want to drive for such a world scam? ??
  2. samarin1969 10 March 2020 06: 39 New
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    Strange message.
    [quoteak the media write with reference to senior sources, it turns out that Russia did not withdraw from the previous deal and even advocated its extension after March 31.] [/ quote]
    You must be, at a minimum, a person from Novak’s entourage to give such an interpretation of events.
    It is unlikely that anyone will tell the truth: who is with whom (agreed / not agreed) and to whom it is beneficial. The United States (if Trump’s position is “non-neutral”) may include Venezuela in all Russian exports. Vaughn and the Boeing are spinning. They can remove excess “undemocratic” oil in the same way as SP-2.
    1. Den717 10 March 2020 06: 59 New
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      Hardly anyone will tell us the truth

      In all this OPEC +, the United States is the main irritant (they are not part of the cartel). They entered the market with shale oil and do not agree with anyone. Behave in the market like an elephant in a china shop. In general, the deal provided for the limitation of oil production in order to maintain the price of it in acceptable values, beneficial for all producers. But the United States refused to restrict anything and threw more and more oil onto the market, occupying empty niches (by the way, what about “sitting on the oil and gas needle?” The United States would also be glad to sit on it, despite criticism). So the Arabs did not restrain themselves, they also rushed to increase production volumes ...
      1. atalef 10 March 2020 11: 14 New
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        Quote: Den717
        In all this OPEC +, the United States is the main irritant (they are not part of the cartel). They entered the market with shale oil and do not agree with anyone

        And why should they agree?
        The United States has severe antitrust laws, and OPEC is a cartel.
        If only one US company tried to join the cartel, its antitrust service would immediately be torn to pieces.
        Quote: Den717
        In general, the deal involved limiting oil production in order to maintain the price of it in acceptable values, beneficial to all manufacturersth.

        that it is a cartel.
        What is prohibited by any normal legislation (national) - this cartel is intended only for one thing - to pump out as much money as possible from buyers.
        Quote: Den717
        But the USA refused to restrict anything and threw more and more oil onto the market, occupying empty niches

        Absolutely right - the market, they have a market at the forefront, and not pumping money artificially, they have at least honestly.
        Profitable - download. not profitable - do not pump or go broke.
        They do not chemize to inflate customers.
        Quote: Den717
        occupying empty niches (by the way, what about “sitting on the oil and gas needle”? The United States would also be glad to sit on it

        The United States has oil - the sea. Half of the wells are mothballed, and offshore production is prohibited.
        They are well aware that the oil needle has not yet brought prosperity to any country in the world.
        Quote: Den717
        So the Arabs did not restrain themselves, they also rushed to increase production volumes ...

        They want to fuck Russia, for many reasons
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          And why should they agree?

          Because they are people, yet. If they are animals, then do not.
          Quote: atalef
          this cartel is intended only for one thing - to pump out as much money as possible from buyers.

          And you can negotiate with the cartel. It is necessary to work out a balance of interests of both the supplier and the consumer. The supplier must also have some kind of profit, at least to develop the industry. And all this will be called a planned economy, or an economy with elements of planning. In this way, the crisis phenomena characteristic of the liberal market can be avoided.
          Quote: atalef
          they have a market at the forefront, rather than pumping money artificially, they have at least honestly.

          They are especially “honest” in Syria, having squeezed oil production from the legitimate authorities. Iran sanctions and the oil embargo without decisions of the UN Security Council drove under the baseboard. Venezuela is in a fever of American honesty. SP-2 trying to kill, also see, from a thirst for justice.
          Quote: atalef
          They want to fuck Russia, for many reasons

          So the truth has arrived. That’s all honesty. Sheer racism, and you advocate for it. Are you from somewhere near Jerusalem? The Holocaust taught you nothing? Some of you are difficult to educate.
          Your roof is a country created by bandits, and their behavior is gangster. That is why an agreement with them is not expensive. If you can take away, why bargain? So? This is right for you. When the Poles at Auschwitz stations sold your half-liter water for a gold ring or watch to your dying thrills, there was also a free market. Profitable? Gave water. Not profitable - did not give. One Jew died, but another bought and survived. Nothing personal just business....
          1. atalef 10 March 2020 13: 31 New
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            Quote: Den717
            Because they are people, yet. If they are animals, then do not.

            Actually all over the world this is called cartel conspiracy and is prosecuted.
            I already wrote - America has the strongest antitrust legislation, and there are no state-owned companies - the private trader will try to negotiate with OPEC and it will be seized in full.
            It’s not clear why you dragged people here.
            These are not people. These are companies. At one time, they conspired to inflate prices to 150 bucks per barrel - and people are those who paid gas at prices that were cut at prices, to please the oil kings.
            You got the wind.
            Quote: Den717
            And you can negotiate with the cartel.

            Cartels should not be a priori.
            A cartel is a form of monopoly association or agreement. Unlike other, more stable forms of monopolistic structures (syndicates, trusts, concerns), each enterprise included in the cartel retains financial and industrial independence. The objects of the agreement can be: pricing, spheres of influence, terms of sales, use of patents, regulation of production volumes, coordination of the terms of sale of products, hiring of workers. It operates, as a rule, within one industry. It impedes the functioning of market mechanisms. In a number of countries (where cartels are prohibited) it is subject to antitrust laws

            Quote: Den717
            It is necessary to work out a balance of interests of both the supplier and the consumer.

            Of course, everyone should be happy, and as Trump said, the price of $ 65 per barrel satisfied everyone.
            But there was a drop in demand and it was necessary to reduce production so that there would be a price that would suit everyone - Russia did not agree to extend OPEC + and provoked a collapse.
            Quote: Den717
            They are especially “honest” in Syria, having squeezed oil production from the legitimate authorities.

            It's good to play Syria - there is no oil in Syria, minuscule. Does not play any piano.
            And the Kurds shake it by the way.
            Quote: Den717
            Iran sanctions and oil embargo without decisions of the UN Security Council drove under the baseboard

            Each country has the right (in connection with its interests) to impose sanctions or embargoes (on its own) on any country.
            You use the same wonderful thing. even with respect to Georgia, even Moldova. even milk from Belarus.
            The US considers Iran an enemy - imposed sanctions.
            Russia does not obey them - what is the question?
            Quote: Den717
            Venezuela fever with American honesty

            Venezuela is in a fever from Bolivar socialists
            Quote: Den717
            SP-2 trying to kill, also see, from a thirst for justice.

            no, they advance their interests, considering that SP-2 has a clearly expressed political, not commercial basis.
            But doesn’t it bother you to finish building it?
            Quote: Den717
            That’s all honesty. Sheer racism, and you advocate for it.

            No, I don’t.
            But Russia is apparently not very soft and fluffy from the point of view of OPEC, that’s it.
            Each with its own methods.
            You won Turkey (at one time tomatoes and tourists), they (Saudis) get you oil prices.
            Everything is ordinary.

            Quote: Den717
            Are you from somewhere near Jerusalem? The Holocaust taught you nothing? Some of you are difficult to educate.

            I'm from Haifa, it’s not clear what this is about. and especially the Holocaust - you have a problem with the arguments?
            apparently the same life did not teach you - you are not alone in the world and certainly not the most important ones.
            Quote: Den717
            Your roof is a country created by bandits, and their behavior is gangster.

            oooo started, trampled on shkolota.
            Quote: Den717
            That is why an agreement with them is not expensive. If you can take away, why bargain?

            Who are you talking about? not about the Budapest memorandum, where did you guarantee the territorial integrity of Uraina?
            Or maybe a treaty recognizing the borders of Georgia?
            What are you talking about ?

            Quote: Den717
            When the Poles at Auschwitz stations sold half a liter of water for a gold ring or watch to your dying thrills, there was also a free market. Profitable?

            I don’t know, you know better. my aunt recalled how she sold all the gold for bread, in siege of Leningrad.
            There were enough scoundrels everywhere.
            By the way, do you think Rosneft and Sechin or Gazprom consider whom?
            Fulfilling the contract? Why did Naftogaz lose the court and grandmas paid? Probably from the kindness of the soul
            Quote: Den717
            it was also a free market. Profitable? Gave water. Not profitable - did not give

            Are you talking about oil? Today's oil market?
            Is your roof going?
            1. Den717 10 March 2020 14: 12 New
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              not about the Budapest memorandum, where did you guarantee the territorial integrity of Uraina?

              You probably read that memorandum? They probably noticed that all the signatories together with Russia still guaranteed non-interference in sovereignty and knocked out advantages of any kind from Ukraine by economic and other measures. But in reality it turned out that 5 lard greens were hammered into its "democratization". Bandera troops were brought up in the EU countries and staged a coup in the country. They promised the Crimea a deserted desert and are now crying as Russia violated the memorandum. Do you think that some fools live all around and don’t see what your puppeteers are doing in foreign countries? Yes, we guaranteed the border, but Crimea left them himself. Every nation should have the right to ensure its physical security. Are you against
              Quote: atalef
              especially the Holocaust

              I gave you the Holocaust as an example of a principle that you consider acceptable for life - "if I can, then why should I refuse." If a bandit can leave you without pants on the street, why shouldn't he? Right?

              Quote: atalef
              no oil in Syria, minuscule

              Yes, even a bucket. It is Syrian. And who invited the USA to the country? White helmets? The rabble of provocateurs? All this "nusra" is a CIA creature. And yours yourself are not better, they urinate the Syrians from around the corner. Well, what is better than striped?
              But Gazprom lost and paid Naftogaz, because that’s how it is spelled out in the contract. The court decision is not righteous, it is universally recognized. Soon, the Hague will also write something to please the "hegemon". While you are swimming in a wake that you have been allowed striped, you can harness for them. As you show independence, you will be put into place by the squabbles. You are a colony, however, like the EU with the Stockholm arbitration.
              1. atalef 10 March 2020 14: 35 New
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                Quote: Den717
                You probably read that memorandum? Probably noticed that all signatories together with Russia still guaranteed non-interference in sovereignty and knocking out advantages of any kind from Ukraine by economic and other measures.

                I'll give you a link to the memorandum at the end
                show me
                Quote: Den717
                But in reality it turned out that 5 lard greens were hammered into its "democratization".

                I'm not saying that this is fake, but at worst the question is - Medvedev said that Russia invested $ 100 billion in Ukraine. (Of course, it's a lie) - but nevertheless, what is it?
                Quote: Den717
                Bandera troops were brought up in the EU countries and staged a coup in the country.

                appearances, passwords, where, when, who.
                How many times have the elections been held there?
                Who is there Strelkova and sent?
                Quote: Den717
                Crimea promised a deserted desert and today weep, as Russia violated the memorandum

                Oh well. Saved the Russians from destruction by Bandera.
                Strange, but in Ukraine, Russians live only in Crimea and Donbass? Why don't they cut them in other places?
                Quote: Den717
                Yes, we guaranteed the border, but Crimea left them alone.

                myself, myself, myself.
                Even Putin has already admitted that he is not himself, but you are puffing out your cheeks.
                Russia violated the memorandum; Russia violated the agreement on border protection
                Fact and do not tell tales ---- himself, himself, himself.
                Quote: Den717
                I gave you the Holocaust as an example of a principle that you consider acceptable for life - "if I can, then why should I refuse"

                This is your principle.
                And in trade, the price determines the balance.

                Quote: Den717
                If a bandit can leave you without pants on the street, why shouldn't he? Right?

                And here is the bandit and the trade?
                Is everything all right with the shores?
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                Yes, even a bucket. It is Syrian.

                What am I against?
                Quote: Den717
                And who invited the USA to the country? White helmets? The rabble of provocateurs?

                And what role does this play in the OPEC + oil deal, maybe I don’t understand what?
                Quote: Den717
                All this "nusra" is a CIA creature.

                no your friend Erdogan
                Quote: Den717
                But Gazprom lost and paid Naftogaz, because that’s how it is spelled out in the contract.

                he lost not because it is written in the contract, BECAUSE he violated the contract,
                Express yourself more clearly.
                Quote: Den717
                The court decision is not righteous, it is universally recognized

                To everyone - by whom?
                You and Miller?
                Quote: Den717
                You are still sailing in a wake authorized by you striped

                again with arguments shitty, so what are we?
                And OPEC +. have something to say?
                Quote: Den717
                How to show independence, they will put you in place

                calm down, we rule the world. Everyone knows that.
                Type in Google (if not banned) - Jews rule the world.
                Honour wink
                Quote: Den717
                You are a colony, however, like the EU with the Stockholm arbitration.

                Strange, I never thought that the colonies live better than the metropolis, and representatives of one large, proud and independent country raise money to send their children to this colony for treatment.
                Health, Den, but it’s not even an hour we cross, my friend is engaged in medical tourism laughing
                1. Den717 10 March 2020 14: 45 New
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                  we rule the world.

                  Because you are everywhere in the world and cut periodically. Earn money ...
                  Quote: atalef
                  but it’s not even an hour we cross, my friend is engaged in medical tourism

                  He travels around the world for grandmother collecting kidneys? laughing
                  1. atalef 10 March 2020 17: 04 New
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                    Quote: Den717

                    He travels around the world for grandmother collecting kidneys?

                    And the kidneys are the same.
                    For your own children.
                    For your money, which you collect SMS throughout the country. And cure - you probably have a problem with this.
                    1. Den717 10 March 2020 18: 10 New
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                      Quote: atalef
                      For your own children.

                      No need to treat us - "for your own children." For personal income and material prosperity. You will heal our children and your own persecutors for money. And we, yes, can the whole world, when necessary. We can free the concentration camp and not invoice for it. And you?
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                        Quote: Den717
                        No need to treat us - "for your own children." For personal income and material prosperity.

                        do not carry - we will not.
                        collective farm business is voluntary
                        Quote: Den717
                        You will heal our children and your own persecutors for money.

                        and who are our persecutors? what
                        Quote: Den717
                        we yes, can the whole world when necessary.


                        Quote: Den717
                        We can free the concentration camp and not invoice for it.

                        we 7 Neither you nor anyone from your environment has anything to do with this and do not stick to someone else's glory.
                        The same to me, one more --- if we repeat
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                  Quote: atalef
                  not because it says so in the contract, BECAUSE IT BROKEN THE AGREEMENT,

                  You have not seen the contract. The contract does not stipulate payment for non-pumping, while for non-sampling the volume is directly prescribed. But convincing you of anything is not my task. Your beliefs and beliefs in the market and honest Americans are up to me.
                  And you do not poke me, I did not sit with you for a glass of tea ...
  3. Ren
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    And that everything doesn’t live in peace for them, some attack on the night of Sunday summer, others hatch the bastard with the oil market, and then, after being starred, start shouting - WAS THERE FOR YOU ?! belay
    I wonder when the Persians in the Strait of Hormuz begin to be naughty, this week or next? wassat
    1. vadson 10 March 2020 06: 58 New
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      rather Husites, why did the Saudis buy our air defense to cover their refineries? but in vain laughing
  4. bessmertniy 10 March 2020 06: 40 New
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    Until recently, the Saudis were crying that they had nothing to close the gaps in their budget. And today they themselves went to reduce their oil revenues, which is the main source of replenishment of their budget. It seems that the monarch and the leadership of the oil companies of Saudi Arabia are simply crazy. fool I think that before April 1, an agreement can be signed, and such volumes of permitted oil production can be determined that can return prices back, or even exceed what they were before the market collapse. hi
    1. carstorm 11 10 March 2020 06: 51 New
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      Well, taking into account the fall of their shares below even the IPO level, they are crazy about it. moreover, this is indirectly indicated by the fact that Saudi Aramco announced plans to lower oil selling prices.
    2. bar
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      Until recently, the Saudis were crying that they had nothing to close the gaps in their budget. And today they themselves went to reduce their oil revenues, which is the main source of replenishment of their budget.

      Hot and unpredictable Asians. Either one sultan will buckle, then another. You will never guess when they get caught under the tail.
    3. kjhg 10 March 2020 06: 57 New
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      Quote: bessmertniy
      I think that before April 1, an agreement can be signed, and such volumes of permitted oil production can be determined that can return prices back, or even exceed what they were before the market collapse.

      That is unlikely. It is necessary to resolve the issue with the excess of oil supply over its consumption. Reducing production by OPEC + countries will be able to reduce tensions for some time, but not solve it. Shalemen beat record after record for production (hi to Sechin and Miller). And then there was a situation with a drop in demand due to the coronavirus. Most likely, we will have a year of super-cheap oil prices as a result of price wars and the struggle for markets.
      1. bessmertniy 10 March 2020 07: 12 New
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        The fact that our economy sags is for sure. As the talk shop went on to get off the gas and oil needles, it continues.
      2. Orkraider 10 March 2020 08: 50 New
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        Shalemen beat record after record
        .
        Records are breaking, yes. Especially here it is clear:


        And we must not forget about the cost of oil, the shale industry is not going smoothly with this:
      3. primaala 10 March 2020 09: 15 New
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        Most likely we are waiting for a year of super-cheap oil prices as a result of price wars and the struggle for markets
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        And in this situation, the Russian Federation will not lose. (whether the price is $ 10). Our oligarchs will lose.
    4. loki565 10 March 2020 07: 04 New
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      It seems that the monarch and the leadership of the oil companies of Saudi Arabia are simply crazy.

      They have their own covert games there
  5. Yaro Polk 10 March 2020 06: 50 New
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    And what, the Saudis have already restored their plant that they bombed?)
  6. Mitroha 10 March 2020 07: 04 New
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    As long as the global market focuses on exchange-traded "air traders", coupled with "financial analysts," nothing good can be expected for the economy.
    And then they rummage to each other non-existent goods for non-existent money at an artificially derived price.
  7. Den Sangoysky 10 March 2020 07: 07 New
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    It looks like another tale from the Russian media, ala "we are not to blame, everything was so conceived and in general God is with us, and we are for a just cause"; at least once in your life, you can take responsibility for what happened, and not make up another story about another dirty trick of the world adversary against us, sorry, it’s easy to boil.
    1. carstorm 11 10 March 2020 07: 19 New
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      The Wall Street Journal has long become a Russian media? did I miss something?)))
      1. lis-ik 10 March 2020 08: 51 New
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        Quote: carstorm 11
        The Wall Street Journal has long become a Russian media? did I miss something?)))

        If you're talking about the article above, then this is a statement from Rosneft on its Facebook page.
        1. carstorm 11 10 March 2020 10: 41 New
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          Well, in the article, firstly, it is from Vedomosti and not from the facebook) statements voiced by Leontiev are slightly different. and just read the foreign press. there the same thing is just different motives. Well, as an example, Bloomberg (USA): Putin turns away from the crown prince of Saudi Arabia to start a war with the American shale oil industry or Forbes (USA): Russia broke one leg off the three-legged chair of the American shale industry. and the veda write that ours simply refused to reduce yet but agree to the old conditions. moreover, here is a quote from an Forbes-article on Friday, March 6, Moscow stripped this chair of one of its legs, refusing to accept additional reductions in oil exports, which were unilaterally proposed by representatives of OPEC countries on Thursday without agreement with the Russian side.
  8. Graz 10 March 2020 07: 35 New
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    heh, I won’t be surprised if a few more missiles and drones from the Yemenis arrive in the Saudi oil industry soon
  9. 30143 10 March 2020 07: 45 New
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    My question is, do the Russians claim it? If so, then the Saudis ...
  10. edeligor 10 March 2020 08: 03 New
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    In the last discussion I spoke out about conspiracy theories. Now I’ll just say - before, we all, like hell from incense, shied away from the abbreviation raw materials appendage of the West Now, not only are we trading in the heritage of our children, but we are also entering into trade wars (!) With third world countries. What did the ancestors fight for? It's a shame, friends, at least to me personally.
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      The country of the third world was an accomplice of the amers in the cause of the collapse of the Soviet Union; we do not have love.
    2. Victor N 10 March 2020 08: 46 New
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      And you scare yourself less, comprehend the facts more. And it will not be a shame, as from screams on far-fetched occasions.
      1. edeligor 10 March 2020 09: 43 New
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        Quote: Victor N
        And you scare yourself less, comprehend the facts more. And it will not be a shame, as from screams on far-fetched occasions.

        Do not you think that in such a tone it is indecent to talk with strangers? About comprehension of facts and fright, and even less screaming, on occasions and without, to your children, or in the mirror and more often.
  11. Pastor 10 March 2020 09: 09 New
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    While some are forced to cut, others, not binding themselves at all with any obligations, are building up and capturing markets. It is a pity that the NWF will not spend on the NB, but on the appetites of speculators and pour money on burning banks. But this is the cost of living in a large corporation called Russia, where they do not stand on ceremony with employees and do not ask workers.
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    interesting, but how does the shale oil market feel in this situation?
    After all, at such prices, its production should become devastating for SNK :)
  13. primaala 10 March 2020 09: 40 New
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    Qatar is a private "state". like the emirates. CA is also in private hands. To this day, the sheikhs are butting among themselves. (FOR AUTHORITY AND FOR A CHEESE OF CHEESE))
    Now about Europe and the USA - ask who the owners of European banks are. For example, Switzerland ...))
    The USA is a country of machine tools. (the largest debt in the foreign market) Why !? You know the answer yourself. )))
    Shadow rulers of the world of the USA, members of the Bilderberg Club.
    Tale of Fabian, doesn’t resemble anything !? Recommend. )))
    In simpler terms: The world is a communal apartment. Who managed to take a "place" under the sun (and lower), he is trying to dictate.
    One Russia mother holds a brand. Poor but proud))
    Corrections are needed for this, so that we could "drop leeches" from our resources.
    1. Po-tzan 10 March 2020 11: 46 New
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      Quote: primaala
      The USA is a country of machine tools. (the largest debt in the foreign market) Why !? You know the answer yourself. )))


      China surpassed the United States in terms of public debt in 2017.

  14. rotmistr60 10 March 2020 09: 52 New
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    Judging by today's information, the United States (shale), the Saudis, bear the greatest losses, and so far we are in third place. Let's see what will happen next. But apparently the Saudis and the United States will not be able to once again make a feint against Russia in the fall in oil prices.
  15. Gardamir 10 March 2020 10: 20 New
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    Three points are interesting in this discussion. Some express their point of view, others the opposite. And there are others who put pros and cons, but not commenting.
  16. Miron 10 March 2020 10: 40 New
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    Today, Russia's strength is in stability, the strength of the United States is in volatility.
    Stable in a crisis situation is the bottom. Each rebound in US prices will be used to repel the loss of impact on price reductions. Therefore, it is necessary to beat for a fall, from which it is impossible to bounce.
    It is necessary to beat the lower prices, and to establish a cost-effective production of hydrocarbons, at these very low prices, while simultaneously building up the armed forces, in particular the production of serial PAK-FA and Armata. In those volumes that are possible.
    Today 5 serial PAK-FA, it is a stable Russia in 50 years. Each plane - 10 years of stability.
    When the country has serious arguments in the defense sector, it will be possible to discuss further steps. While they are not there, we can speak about a protected prosperous state only theoretically.
    The defenseless are beaten, raped and robbed. This is how our world works.
  17. atalef 10 March 2020 11: 02 New
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    Now, as the media write with reference to senior sources, it turns out that Russia did not withdraw from the previous deal and even advocated its extension after March 31.

    Well, of course, at first, Russia’s disagreement passed through all the channels, and even Leontyev voiced this

    Russia does not benefit from a new OPEC + deal
    08.03.2020 12:36
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    Rosneft spokesman Mikhail Leontyev revealed the reason why Russia refused to enter into another deal with OPEC +. According to company representatives, agreements with OPEC + to limit oil production do not make any sense to Russia, since the country independently gives its markets for the supply of American shale oil.
    "From the point of view of Russia's interests, this deal is simply meaningless. We, yielding our own markets, remove cheap Arab and Russian oil from them in order to clear a place for expensive shale American. And to ensure the efficiency of its production," Leontiev explained.

    Read more at https://www.pravda.ru/news/economics/1479429-opek/




    and when they realized that they had made a big mistake, they immediately dumped the type we wanted, but the Saudis hacked it.
    What the hell did chtoli get?
    Only 2 days have passed, the people have not lost their memory yet
    1. rotmistr60 10 March 2020 11: 10 New
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      and when they realized that they had scolded on a large scale ...
      As usual, you are scolded by a "bat." Read the latest news, or you can’t keep up with them due to time zones, or maybe not desire?
  18. voyaka uh 10 March 2020 11: 48 New
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    First, Leontiev from Rosneft and Kisilev convincingly said that Russia was the initiator of the refusal to deal with OPEC.
    And how beneficial it is for Russia.
    And then, when the collapse of the oil market came, it turns out that "everyone started the Saud, and we have nothing to do with it ..." smile
    1. carstorm 11 10 March 2020 22: 10 New
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      Forbes-On Friday, March 6, Moscow stripped this chair of one of its legs, refusing to accept additional reductions in oil exports, which were unilaterally proposed by representatives of OPEC countries on Thursday without agreement with the Russian side. Leontiev pressak of one company in all that actively advocated the rejection of this transaction after the incident. he voices only their opinion and not the state. and they never said they were initiators. according to the old quotas, we agreed to sign, and not according to those which the new ones put forward for reduction. We have been talking about that for a long time.
  19. sanik2020 10 March 2020 12: 51 New
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    Media: The decision to exit the deal for oil production was made by Saudi Arabia
    Today,

    Yes, someone would not accept, the result is important and everyone is ill from it. Whoever was not to blame, how can you ask him?
  20. Operator 10 March 2020 14: 25 New
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    Yesterday, shares of high-tech companies such as Microsoft, IBM, Apple, Oracle and others, which were previously considered insurance against a collapse in oil and gas prices, collapsed in the United States. The situation is beginning to resemble the beginning of the American Great Depression in 1929.

    And, it would seem, where does the cost of shale oil production +45 bucks per barrel? laughing
    1. 3danimal 11 March 2020 05: 51 New
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      There is an old proverb: "while the fat dries, the thin ... will die."
      Do not throw on the new "Great Depression."
  21. Gennady Fomkin 10 March 2020 16: 50 New
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    Riyadh, looking at the burning shed, sets fire to the hut. laughing
  22. Gennady Fomkin 10 March 2020 16: 52 New
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    The hysterical reaction of Riyadh, if it really does follow, in Russia will be perceived as a bluff. It is understandable: oil prices are collapsing in a country that only yesterday was going to raise them by reducing production. The only question is when Saudi Arabia will calm down and again sit at the negotiating table with the Russian Federation in order to work out the terms of the renewed OPEC + deal. The one in which you have to take into account the interests of the Russian Federation.
  23. Shahno 10 March 2020 16: 56 New
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    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    The hysterical reaction of Riyadh, if it really does follow, in Russia will be perceived as a bluff. It is understandable: oil prices are collapsing in a country that only yesterday was going to raise them by reducing production. The only question is when Saudi Arabia will calm down and again sit at the negotiating table with the Russian Federation in order to work out the terms of the renewed OPEC + deal. The one in which you have to take into account the interests of the Russian Federation.

    It’s not news for you how much the interests of the monarchy of the Saudi family are tied to the states ...
    In secret, this is actually a tandem. A mutually beneficial union, which is not quite official. For certain reasons ...
  24. Gennady Fomkin 10 March 2020 16: 57 New
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    Whenever oil quotes “slide” to the break-even level of overseas exporters, OPEC initiates another program to reduce production. And all the “cream” in the end goes to the Americans.
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    Saudi Arabian Energy Minister Abdel Aziz bin Salman said the kingdom’s authorities see no reason to convene a meeting of countries participating in the OPEC + deal in May-June.

    “I see no reason to convene meetings in May-June, only to demonstrate our failure to take the necessary measures to counter this crisis and the necessary actions,” RIA Novosti quoted him as saying.

    Earlier, the head of the Ministry of Energy of Russia, Alexander Novak, during a meeting on economic issues held by Russian Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin, spoke about the negotiations held to extend the OPEC + deal. laughing - Sucked off with dirt at 80 bucks per barrel in the budget. Already Westerners write that they were mistaken again to surprise the Russian Federation. And then - the markets more or less recover and the cunning red-haired Saudi face will be beaten by everyone who suffered.

    Hands, feet and candelabrum. laughing
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