The ruble was called lost its dependence on oil, and it fell after the barrel

The ruble was called lost its dependence on oil, and it fell after the barrel

"World oil prices fell, dragging the Russian ruble." Approximately such sentiments reigned in the Russian information space this Monday, even though it turned out to be a day off. So what exactly is happening? How great is the danger in which our ruble ended up due to falling oil prices?


As usual, it was worth the green currency to go up to 75 rubles per unit, as many immediately recalled the assurances that had been heard not so long ago that the exchange rate of the Russian currency was no longer tied to world prices for black gold. It seems to be just something that was announced back in 2018 at the Russia Calling Forum by Anton Siluanov, who was then not only the country's finance minister, but also also deputy prime minister. The truth, in that particular case, it was mostly about the impact of Western sanctions on our economy, from which, according to the official, the Russians are reliably protected by a certain “buffer” created by the government and the Central Bank in case of any completely unforeseen situations.

And here is the situation ... At the same time, the promised “buffer” somehow rattled suspiciously, and the price of the American dollar and euro quickly and dexterously rushed up, as soon as the barrel went down to the 30 green mark. So what? It turns out that no one “untied” the ruble from the main domestic property in the form of hydrocarbons, and now we all have to taste the far from sweet fruits of the remaining vicious dependence?

First of all, the positions lost by the ruble are far from a collapse and not a financial disaster. We saw close to current values, for example, in 2018, and without any drop in the barrel, but only thanks to the “gift” made to us by the West in the form of sanctions in the “Skripals case”. Incidentally, the depreciation of the exchange rate is still far from being proportional to the collapse of oil quotations that has really been seen since 1991, which is observed today. So, with the absolutely indisputable connection between the ruble and the barrel, it is clearly not so strong.

Nevertheless, it would be naive to speak of the complete independence of our national currency from the export of hydrocarbons, which today is the main article of currency inflow to Russia. As long as the dollar remains the main global means of payment, we will not succeed in getting rid of this peg, whatever one may say. The currency for replenishment of gold reserves comes from export, and, in principle, it doesn’t make much difference what exactly we will export - all the same, fluctuations in world prices for this product will determine the national currency rate.

The question now, in fact, is another: how true are Siluanov’s current assurances that the funds in the National Welfare Fund of more than 10 trillion rubles are more than enough to compensate for the “incomes arising from lower oil prices budget. " Including to maintain financial stability in the country. According to statements by officials from the Ministry of Finance and its leader, the accumulations of Russia will be enough to survive from 6 to 10 years of "low barrel". Even with its price of $ 25-30 there should not be global shocks.

It all sounds very encouraging. How will everything be in practice? Well, one can only hope for the best. Including the fact that the now rising alarming moods will not develop into an exchange panic, which can cause much more troubles than a decrease in any prices and rates.
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  1. Stas157 10 March 2020 06: 41 New
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    The decision was actually made in one person. This was told by Leonid Fedun. The head of Rosneft is simply obsessed with the war with the shale so much that he is ready to jeopardize the entire economy and finances of Russia.

    Until now, in spite of all the high Russian assurances, the shale industry is quite healthy and does not think to leave the market. Surely, the same thing will turn out this time. But of course, no one will be responsible for the consequences of the irresponsible decision that the Russians will suffer from. The supreme power in our country is beyond jurisdiction (and therefore irresponsible).
    1. vadson 10 March 2020 07: 01 New
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      the departure of shale oil from the market is not a matter of the next few days, but from half a year to a year, the Saudis decided that they have reserves for this period.
      1. Malyuta 10 March 2020 07: 20 New
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        We have been lying to us for a quarter of a century, and the lie about the fact that the ruble does not depend on oil quotes is another lie.
        1. vadson 10 March 2020 07: 40 New
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          and you are so naive and believe? it depends of course https://yandex.ru/turbo?text=https%3A%2F%2Fstockinfocus.ru%2F2015%2F08%2F10%2Fneftyanaya-igla%2F
        2. knn54 10 March 2020 08: 59 New
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          I am LONGLY LOOKING FOR SUCH the dependence of the ruble. The krona, the rial and other currencies are stable, and yet the economies of Norway, KSA and others are more dependent on energy prices.
          Whose is the Central Bank all the same ???
          1. vic02 10 March 2020 10: 54 New
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            Whose is the Central Bank all the same ???
            Spherical CB in a vacuum? Who appoints the head of the Central Bank? Who did not agree with the Saudis? Whose Surgutneftegas and others do we have? It is not the Central Bank that needs to be changed and constitutional amendments added, but the entire country's leadership, together with the system, with the return of power to the people and the restoration of a socially oriented state, must be changed.
            1. nils 10 March 2020 15: 50 New
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              - Kum, why did you predict the collapse of the Russian economy at first at a price of $ 80 per barrel, then 70, then 60, now 37 and now the crash still does not occur?
              - Well, there is no economy - there is no collapse.
            2. Malyuta 10 March 2020 19: 51 New
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              Quote: vic02
              Spherical CB in a vacuum? Who appoints the head of the Central Bank? Who did not agree with the Saudis? Whose Surgutneftegas and others do we have? It is not the Central Bank that needs to be changed and constitutional amendments added, but the entire country's leadership, together with the system, with the return of power to the people and the restoration of a socially oriented state, must be changed.

              Victor THANKS, YOU ARE RESPECTIVE !!! +100500
        3. Xnumx vis 10 March 2020 09: 00 New
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          Quote: Malyuta
          We have been lying to us for a quarter of a century, and the lie about the fact that the ruble does not depend on oil quotes is another lie.

          You all lie! you will all die ! You are the daughter of an officer! Everything is not clear for you ... And in general ... Glory to Ukraine! So, chi neither .... Or didn’t fame ....
        4. megadeth 10 March 2020 10: 08 New
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          I completely agree with you. But the question is why instrument making, machine tool building, machine building, etc. are not being reborn. ... structure, there is no operating system of its own (for mass personal computers). Aeroflot buys 100 airbuses, including for domestic flights, and where our planes are at least for domestic flights. We can’t put an attack drone into service for 10 years, we watch on TV how the Turks iron our allies with UAVs ... but everything is fine with us, of course ... we will eat bread, cereals, milk and a chicken egg for us who passed the 90s is a lot ...
          1. Honest Citizen 10 March 2020 10: 43 New
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            But the question is why instrument making, machine tool building, machine building, etc.

            Because the payback period for the real development of these industries is not less than 5, and somewhere more than 15 years.
            And pumping oil and gas - it is more profitable from the point of view of capitalism.
            At the time Putin came to power, oil and gas accounted for 60% of exports. Then there were years of growth, rising from his knees, slipping off an oil needle and now the share of oil and gas in exports is a modest 80%.
            That's all:)
            1. vadson 10 March 2020 11: 52 New
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              where are the firewood from? 63.7% in exports and about 20% in the structure of GDP. in general it’s from the evil one, now the price of oil will fall and there will be a different percentage
              1. Honest Citizen 10 March 2020 12: 00 New
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                Vadim.
                If we put aside the arms market - what else does high-tech Russia export?
                Atomk? - Excuse me, but contracts are not baked there like pies.
                In which industries does Russia export a high-tech product?
                1. vadson 10 March 2020 12: 11 New
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                  Well, to be fairly honest and fair, consumer goods as an industry are not raised here. there are technologies in the country; their defense has always moved. hence the bias towards large projects that small businesses cannot implement.
                  and at the expense of the industry - take space. we put international satellites into orbit, and our taxi works.
                  about the fact that we can’t do our own, we can only do this in an unprofitable way in the current situation on the world market.
                  1. Honest Citizen 10 March 2020 12: 16 New
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                    Space? There are Soviet developments yet, but, perhaps yes, we work like a taxi. But launches are also not so common.
                    So it turns out that we sell mainly resources. Often after the first redistribution (metallurgy).
                    And this only says that we are still a commodity country.
                    And the whole talk of Putin and EdR about getting up off their knees and developing the economy - it remains an empty talk. That's what a shame - no one is responsible for this mess.
                    1. vadson 10 March 2020 13: 05 New
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                      let's just say that a lot depends on people. from ordinary citizens. everyone wants to drive a Mercedes but only in a pocket in a Prior. even if ours release a product that will compete in quality with foreign counterparts - an aurus for example. then its price will usually be higher than the analogue from abroad due to the mass production. Well, and what goods of the same quality will a person not burdened with finances take? in the defense industry, the exact same situation is only in our favor. take it, s400 which is a cut above all foreign complexes costs 2 times cheaper than American systems. another example - remember how the state introduced duties on the import of used cars. howl was a lot. in terms of justice, pure robbery. but the production of budget foreign cars in Russia began to open foreign concerns. these are jobs. Well, the West was blinded, and there are a lot of stocks but the price is 30-40% lower than the same Solaris. a neighbor a month ago took a new one for a million wassat Of course in the power of a lot of snickering grabbers. it is depressing. pleases another - all these nouveau riche ala 90-200s the West will not recognize for their own and will rob them in all possible ways. they just don’t understand this, they have one way to invest in the Russian economy.
            2. Russian jacket 17 March 2020 03: 50 New
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              You are not mixed up with the case of Saudi Arabia? Even according to reports of the same RBC, in the Russian budget 45%, but this is the federal budget, in a consolidated 20-24%
              https://www.minfin.ru/ru/statistics/fedbud/execute/?id_65=80041-yezhegodnaya_informatsiya_ob_ispolnenii_federalnogo_byudzhetadannye_s_1_yanvarya_2006_g.
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        6. Xnumx vis 10 March 2020 16: 12 New
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          Quote: Malyuta
          We have been lying to us for a quarter of a century, and the lie about the fact that the ruble does not depend on oil quotes is another lie.

          You never answered ... am am am
          That's the glory of Ukraine! chi ne glory .... chi sho .. lol ???? So sho to be born paradeschny hulks, sho!? lolRyatuti good people ..... !!!
      2. Zeev Zeev 10 March 2020 08: 24 New
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        Disappointing, the shale industry will not leave the market. Maximum, they will freeze production for a period of unfavorable prices for them, having received support from the governments of their states concerned about energy independence
        1. astepanov 10 March 2020 10: 38 New
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          But when (and if) the implementation of national projects fails, how sweet it will be to sing that the fall in oil prices is to blame. By the way, why is it always our blame for a foreign uncle (Merikans, Europeans, Turks, Arabs), or those you don’t ask (Tsar, CPSU, Yeltsin), or those who don’t have any authority (opposition, liberals ...) Can it be that our power is impeccable? Benefactors are direct ...
        2. vadson 10 March 2020 11: 56 New
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          Yes? that is, no one will buy oil from them at an inflated price, they will work at a loss but not for long. as a result, the released volume of sales will be occupied by traditional oil. they will certainly return to the market at a high price, but they will lose the buyer. for this and the game
      3. Victor N 10 March 2020 11: 35 New
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        Quote: vadson
        the departure of shale oil from the market is not a matter of the next few days, but from half a year to a year, the Saudis decided that they have reserves for this period.

        Categorical judgments - at the level of second-year students (the first - still afraid, and the third - already starting to think).
      4. bayard 11 March 2020 05: 40 New
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        Quote: vadson
        withdrawal of shale oil from the market

        Is it really just a problem with shale oil? Reducing oil sales, OPEC + simply surrendered to the US market - American companies occupied all the vacant niches immediately after the next reduction. And by raising oil prices, we only increased the profit and profitability of American shale oil companies.
        Shale production during this time has fallen in price at a cost - profitable after 30 dollars. So the rejection of this vicious practice was long overdue, but the decision (not by us - the Saudis) was superimposed on the hysteria with the "coronovirus", i.e. a decrease in business activity around the world and, as a result, a sharp reduction in the consumption of petroleum products.
        Here is the result of the cumulative effect. The exchange rate of the ruble is determined at auction, and there the panic is oil at 30 dollars. . The government of Russia cannot react with cheap credit interventions - the printing press is not in his hands, and Nabiulena has been set to BLOOD the interest of its owners ...
        There will be changes in the Constitution - many laws, treaties and obligations of Russia can be denounced. Including the "law on the Central Bank", which is better to completely abolish (the Central Bank) and establish / reanimate its role as a normal state (!) Institution - the Treasury, which should carry out monetary emission, lending to state programs, provide banks with (state) liquidity for lending to the population and business (first of all, and first of all - the production business). And to tie the ruble to the gold content - as Comrade Stalin bequeathed.
        And there will be people happiness.
        In the meantime, you can be sad, you can whimper, you can pirononiziruyte about the "abilities of the government" ... but the same nonsense is happening all over the world ...
        And you need to mature in the root.
    2. DMB 75 10 March 2020 07: 10 New
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      Only the lazy did not bury the extraction of shale oil .. The share of shale oil is less than 10% in the world market. Shale oil can be displaced if you collapse your raw materials economy for many years .. And what's the most annoying - with rising oil prices, shale production is restored in a year. That is, you can strangle it, holding your people in a black body, but you cannot use the fruits of strangulation. It's just how stupid you have to be in order to collapse your own economy so that the Americans do not occupy a reduced quota. If someone thinks that the states will feel bad after that, it’s mistaken - they will be very good, since they will receive Saudi oil for their candy wrappers, and they will save their oil at a better price. And China is in plus from this. By the way, gas prices depend on prices for oil - a collapse in gas prices will follow. And how the oil industry will win back for us for a long time no need to explain, the dollar is growing - that means gasoline is getting more expensive! Rosneft, led by the "wise" Sechin, who advocated the rejection of the OPEC + deal, expects low prices to kill US shale projects. But their projects are insured! They have the opportunity to sustain losses. And we?
      1. Malyuta 10 March 2020 07: 26 New
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        Quote: DMB 75
        And how the oil industry will win back to us for a long time no one needs to explain, the dollar is growing - that means gasoline is getting more expensive! Rosneft, led by the "wise" Sechin, who advocated the rejection of the OPEC + deal, expects low prices to kill US shale projects. But their projects are insured! They have the opportunity to sustain losses. And we?

        All total price increases will fall on the shoulders of the Russian population. Wang, that a crazy central bank will keep the dollar until April 22nd, and then ... and then, as always, "there is no money, but you hold on. AND GOOD MOOD FOR YOU !!!!"
      2. Berber 10 March 2020 09: 01 New
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        The fact that shale projects are insured does not mean that there will be no losses. They will only be shared with insurance companies. Insurance companies also take money not from the air. Yes, they can be printed again, but this is a load on the US financial system. So the blow is palpable, given that in the real sector the "oil industry" occupies a significant part.
        1. astepanov 10 March 2020 10: 45 New
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          Quote: BerBer
          The fact that shale projects are insured does not mean that there will be no losses.

          There will be losses. Only in the US economy is the share of the oil industry very small, and they will cover the losses more than in many ways, including the political benefits of our economic stumbling.
          1. Berber 10 March 2020 11: 20 New
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            The real sector of the American economy is 14%. And the share of the oil industry in the total GDP is 3,5%. It’s possible to overlap, but with phantom pieces of paper from conditionally “paper” GDP. Well, that is, create another “bubble”.
            1. Malyuta 10 March 2020 12: 02 New
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              Quote: BerBer
              The real sector of the American economy is 14%. And the share of the oil industry in the total GDP is 3,5%. It’s possible to overlap, but with phantom pieces of paper from conditionally “paper” GDP. Well, that is, create another “bubble”.

              Why are you worried about America? To hell with America with her, it would be hard for us all, ordinary people, that is, all the people.
      3. flicker 10 March 2020 09: 17 New
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        If someone thinks that the states will feel bad after that, then he is mistaken - they will be very happy, since they will receive Saudi oil for their candy wrappers
        And what kind of Saudi Arabia will it be?
        1. Bagatur 10 March 2020 14: 22 New
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          Do not think the Saudis .... They go to dobcha very low ..... They can sell at low prices for a very long time and will not go bankrupt!
          1. flicker 10 March 2020 15: 05 New
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            They have to go to dobcha very low ..... They can sell at low prices for a very long time and will not go bankrupt!
            This is so, the cost of oil production is lower, and therefore budget revenue more but ...
            But they have budget expenditure they have much higher. In Russia, when forming the budget, $ 40 per barrel is laid, and for the Saudis $ 80 per barrel.
            For example: there are two oil workers: H1 and H2.
            H1 lives in a good, but modest house, he has a good car, etc. - $ 40 per barrel is enough for him to live like that.
            H2 lives in a luxury villa, he has a super expensive limousine, yachts, etc. - in order to live like this, he needs to sell a barrel of oil for $ 80.
            Well, here comes the question: who will be easier to survive the sale of oil for $ 30 a barrel?
            So are we with the Saudis, they have more budget revenues from oil sales, but also more budget expenditures.
            They can stretch for a long time if they squeeze themselves tightly. But will they just want to pinch themselves strongly?
            1. Bagatur 10 March 2020 16: 22 New
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              Or maybe again, as in 1985, when the problems of the USSR began? Behind the back of Saudi Arabia are the United States ... I wonder how the oil gambit will play)))
      4. basmach 10 March 2020 09: 22 New
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        How stupid it must be to create an economy so dependent on raw material exports!
      5. m077ea 11 March 2020 08: 23 New
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        What did you grab onto this shale oil? Do you see anything further than her?
    3. Mar.Tirah 10 March 2020 07: 14 New
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      Quote: Stas157
      in spite of all the high Russian assurances, the shale workers are quite well-being and do not think to leave the market.

      I would not be so sure. Oil market experts point out that many shale companies have hedged their risks, and their decline in production will not be so quick. However, Saudi Arabia and Russia have made it clear that they are ready for a long period of low prices, which in the light of the spread of the coronavirus around the world looked like a very likely scenario. “The current situation will put significant pressure on the growth rate of shale production in the United States. They may turn out to be negative at a WTI price of $ 40 / barrel, ”Barclays believes. But I’m worried about something else. The main thing is that my consumer basket doesn’t collapse after oil prices, and the interests of Russian oil magnates are not taken out at the expense of the people again.
      1. Nikolaevich I 10 March 2020 07: 29 New
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        Quote: Mar. Tira
        However, Saudi Arabia and Russia have made it clear that they are ready for a long period of low prices, which in the light of the spread of the coronavirus around the world looked like a very likely scenario.

        Or maybe the world economic problems should not be blamed on the coronavirus to the heap? "World experts" have long been "blathering" about the onset of the "global economic downturn" ?!
        1. Azim77 10 March 2020 07: 56 New
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          A world crisis was inevitable, only a catalyst was needed to blaze. Signs that the crisis is already underway, or rather a lot of consequences - this is a sharp collapse in all funds, a sharp rise in the price of gold. After the crisis, as a rule, there is a recovery and recovery. And of course, at the same time they will devour someone, at the expense of him they will rise. When the USSR collapsed, he became this victim for that period. And so cyclically (usually every 6 years) ..
          There have been several catalysts-reasons lately - these are Lebanon, Ukraine, Syria .. the next US is against Iran (General Suleymani) and now the coronavirus. One of the likely candidates for the victim to be devoured was to be Russia. Ward + for this and limited its oil production. And the prices for it, due to the Coronovirus project, would still fall and they would begin to fall, because global production began to decline, mainly due to China. Russia decided to get out of this restrictive preventively. Those. as in the cards - made a pass to the next. And if the NB fund is really non-empty, then this is the right step.
      2. Svarog 10 March 2020 07: 34 New
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        and the decline in production on their part will not be so quick. However, Saudi Arabia and Russia have made it clear that they are ready for a long period of low prices.

        US shale oil will not go anywhere and as soon as prices go up the US will start to extract again .. The way out of this situation is different, it's time to develop our production, pharmacology, electronics .. We need to produce a product with high added value .. But those who are now they rule the country, they proved that they can’t .. For 20 years they couldn’t ..
        1. Mar.Tirah 10 March 2020 07: 54 New
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          Quote: Svarog
          US shale oil will not go anywhere and as soon as prices go up, the United States will begin to produce again.

          It’s not a matter of production, but of implementation. The USA wants to squeeze Russia out of the oil market by all means, cheap oil and political pressure. That’s why this war began. And the rest is in agreement with you. You can get off. But tycoons are more profitable to sell raw materials over the hill, and replenish their accounts there, than to invest in their production.
        2. Edward Vashchenko 10 March 2020 08: 33 New
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          It’s completely logical, but now it’s mine with a bad game
        3. EnGenius 10 March 2020 08: 48 New
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          Unlike oil, where he conditionally made more holes, put more pumps - got more oil, for real production you need much more conditions and the competition does not sleep. To increase the volume of finished goods and establish oneself in new markets — real innovations and hard work are needed here, but not the first or second are not observed in Russia. More precisely, they do not want to pay and pay for it.
        4. m077ea 11 March 2020 08: 25 New
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          And how many days did you stand at the helm? How many strategic decisions have you taken? But ... but to give an assessment of what is happening is easy! and no panic !!!!!)
    4. Svarog 10 March 2020 07: 30 New
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      According to statements by officials from the Ministry of Finance and its leader, the accumulations of Russia will be enough to survive from 6 to 10 years of "low barrel". Even with its price of $ 25-30 there should not be global shocks.

      You can survive everything .. the question is how to survive .. A low barrels will mean that the standard of living will constantly decrease, citizens' incomes will decrease, taxes and gasoline will go up ..
    5. siberalt 10 March 2020 08: 19 New
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      If we start supplying oil for free, then we will bring down Saudi Arabia. We all can. But our oil market will be on the whole planet. The state will compensate losses to Sechin.
      1. flicker 10 March 2020 10: 26 New
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        If we start supplying oil for free, we’ll bring down Saudi Arabia
        We’ll find understanding on the part of the CA faster. For example: oil is sold for $ 60, the Saudis say they are ready to increase oil production and thereby lower the price of oil (say) to $ 40, and we are offered to reduce production through OPEC so that (relatively speaking) the price remains the same $ 60.
        Those. we are obliged to sell less (we lose sales markets and profits), and the Saudis increase their sales markets and profits (due to our losses). request
        And so, refusing to reduce production, we will not allow the Saudis to profit at our expense. That allows us to calculate that we will quickly agree with the Saudis on quotas for oil production.
    6. 210ox 10 March 2020 10: 56 New
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      Judging by the state of the football team that they have, then the economists of them are still those. what
  2. smart ass 10 March 2020 06: 42 New
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    For the ruble to be indifferent to oil, a working economy and developed industry are needed
    1. Uncle lee 10 March 2020 06: 48 New
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      The ruble was called lost oil dependence
      and called it "WOODEN"!
      1. Uncle lee 10 March 2020 15: 26 New
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        Dear minusers! From your minuses the ruble will not turn green and will not be gilded! hi
    2. Stas157 10 March 2020 07: 00 New
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      Quote: Clever man
      For the ruble to be indifferent to oil, a working economy and developed industry are needed

      And there is. Such an effect on the US dollar (they produce about the same amount of oil), the price of oil will not have, as happened with the ruble.
      1. Mitroha 10 March 2020 07: 25 New
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        Quote: Stas157

        And there is. Such an effect on the US dollar (they produce about the same amount of oil), the price of oil will not have, as happened with the ruble.

        Yes, yes, but the fact that they print it doesn't matter of course
    3. Malyuta 10 March 2020 07: 22 New
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      Quote: Clever man
      For the ruble to be indifferent to oil, a working economy and developed industry are needed

      Our rulers need money, not industry.
    4. Essex62 10 March 2020 08: 43 New
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      And the absence of the main brake on this process is the greedy bourgeoisie.
  3. vadson 10 March 2020 06: 43 New
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    oh and this silly nerd, he would only have to survive the storm and then on a new one - download resources and do not rattle. for these 6 years, you need to bring the currency to the budget from 30 to 5-10%, then we can say that it worked well
  4. Vasily Ponomarev 10 March 2020 06: 43 New
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    well, so our president will say that everything was as planned, the next special operation "bonded"
    1. Sergey Medvedev 10 March 2020 07: 23 New
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      Quote: Vasily Ponomarev
      well, so our president will say that everything was as planned, the next special operation "bonded"

      So now there are signs of such a "special operation." There was news recently on Topvar that 700 billion rubles were allocated to write off the debts of the military-industrial complex. The government bought from the Central Bank a controlling stake in Sberbank for 2,5 trillion rubles. Banks have a lot of money, they can turn the ruble as they want. Here, apparently, and "twisted". And refer to the price of oil.
    2. Dmitry V. 10 March 2020 10: 58 New
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      It is conveniently settled down - any failure will explain.
      To devalue the ruble in order to fill the budget is very simple, than to seriously engage in the economy and invest in infrastructure projects (they are plundered ...).

      But what about the shares of Lehman Brothers and Goldman Sachs, bought after Pu negotiations in 2008 - a month before bankruptcy?
  5. bessmertniy 10 March 2020 06: 46 New
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    In my opinion, most of all we are trying to make our ruble fall, our Central Bank and fraudsters from our economy, who are profitable to pay their debts with a cheap ruble. negative They will start the machine, and they will print a lot of crispy new bills to the country so that the economy does not get into a stupor at all. what
    1. rocket757 10 March 2020 06: 58 New
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      Exporters are already shaking hands, even oil / gas .... having many additional rubles, being in the ruble zone (wages for workers in rubles) can, they can afford something extra ...
      it was already like that.
      1. Reptiloid 10 March 2020 19: 16 New
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        ..... it was already like that.

        Yes, it was more than once. As soon as the last time begins to be forgotten, the next time comes request
        1. rocket757 10 March 2020 19: 35 New
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          The capitalist \ master, he also has a thought. He raped himself pretty much, but threw off the crumbs to the people, Schaub worked and rejoiced ..... It will last ... I hope not forever.
          1. Reptiloid 10 March 2020 19: 40 New
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            Quote: rocket757
            The capitalist \ master, he also has a thought. He raped himself pretty much, but threw off the crumbs to the people, Schaub worked and rejoiced ..... It will last ... I hope not forever.
            now, probably, already the majority of the population understands that such a thing with the ruble is not an exception, but a program for capital enemas
            1. rocket757 10 March 2020 19: 48 New
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              Not to say that they understand and know what exactly is happening ... this is a big difference.
              We, the majority, did not learn this, so I simply do not pay attention to universal ... chatter. For me, this is also a dull topic, so I do not climb wherever they called.
              1. Reptiloid 10 March 2020 19: 57 New
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                Quote: rocket757
                Not to say that they understand and know what exactly is happening ... this is a big difference.
                We, the majority, did not learn this, so I simply do not pay attention to universal ... chatter. For me, this is also a dull topic, so I do not climb wherever they called.

                What am I talking about? Thoroughly and do not need to understand, in my opinion. You just need to know that a similar result for the population was originally laid down and will be all the time.
                1. rocket757 10 March 2020 20: 07 New
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                  Crisis phenomena will be in any state. Even a planned economy passes through them ... just do not foresee, a person is not so wise!
                  It’s just that in the Land of Soviets the crisis was spread at almost all, and for all this was somewhat less for everyone than for a part of the “chosen ones”!
    2. Jurkovs 10 March 2020 07: 28 New
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      So, personally, why do you need a high ruble? What would travel abroad? Yes, with a high ruble it is cheaper. But with a high ruble, it is just not profitable to export oil (less margin) and it is profitable to import equipment to the detriment of its own industry. And with a weak ruble, everything is exactly the same and in the country it is more profitable to produce goods, and not to buy them abroad. When food safety is ensured in the country, then the average person should have some sort of ruble to dollar exchange rate, unless of course this does not interfere with his trip to Turkey or Europe.
      1. certero 10 March 2020 07: 42 New
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        Need a high or low ruble, need a stable ruble
        1. bessmertniy 10 March 2020 07: 45 New
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          We need a stable one - ordinary chukhlanins who live on only one salary, and those who are used to fishing in troubled waters are more interested in an unstable ruble, and a stable dollar and a thriving American economy. hi
      2. Edward Vashchenko 10 March 2020 08: 38 New
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        We have the whole economy from the military-industrial complex to agricultural production on an import basis, nothing has changed in 20 years, rare adjustments, today, in fact, a weak ruble is pulling inflation and massive impoverishment, rather than “domestic production”, as it would produce means of production are needed, but they are not in the Russian Federation. How many lathes have we produced? and CNC? and milling? even breeding cattle are imported for a low ruble. And so in a circle.
      3. Essex62 10 March 2020 08: 53 New
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        Jurkovs "if this does not interfere with a trip to Turkey ..."
        Do you know that 90% of goods in Russia import and prices are tied to cut green paper? Each collapse of the ruble pounds on the family budget with a sledgehammer.
      4. smart ass 10 March 2020 22: 00 New
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        Are paying dear prices normal for you?
  6. Dur_mod 10 March 2020 06: 52 New
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    It’s interesting, but what about the statement of Saudi Arabia that they are ready to increase oil production and sell it below $ 20 per barrel. Long enough financial pillow in Russia? Not raw materials, but people, population - this is the main wealth of the country, the more people, the higher consumption and production. When the authorities understand the richer the people live, the faster the country will become financially and politically stable.
    1. bessmertniy 10 March 2020 07: 04 New
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      Well, ordinary people do not live on the income of Gazprom or Rosneft, but on wages in rubles, products from the garden or cottages, hunting, fishing and all kinds of gathering mushrooms and wild plants. what If, in principle, there was not enough money in the family, then nothing changes - they will still not be enough. Simple subsistence farming is much more reliable than the market economy in its current form. hi
      1. V.I.P. 10 March 2020 08: 18 New
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        Only the entire tool for subsistence farming, clothing, all household appliances, half of the drugs are all imported and are purchased for currency. The dollar grew by 20%. That's all imported and will increase in price ..... Gasoline is getting more expensive as they explain to us, because oil is getting cheaper. How much oil has already fallen? ... That’s how much gasoline will rise in price with us .....
    2. polar fox 10 March 2020 07: 41 New
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      Quote: Dur_mod
      Not raw materials, but people, population - this is the main wealth of the country, the more people, the higher consumption and production.

      for GDP, people are cooler than oil ... you can always milk. Until they die.
      1. bessmertniy 10 March 2020 08: 23 New
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        Take off your pink glasses, dear Arctic fox, no people - no problem. I was not told. And today, in our country, the main thing is not people, but the specific wealth of the country, which our god-like oligarchs and others like them lower for pennies abroad. And how many people, as a result of their perestroika and reforms, have rested in the Bose - absolutely nothing shakes them. hi
    3. fif21 10 March 2020 08: 31 New
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      It’s interesting, but what about the statement of Saudi Arabia that they are ready to increase oil production and sell it below $ 20 per barrel.

      There are, as always, 3 options: 1. Agree 2. Create them external and internal problems. 3 Give Hussites many land-to-ground missiles, let them frolic. hi
    4. donavi49 10 March 2020 09: 11 New
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      The Saudis and Russia have approximately the same cushion of 500 + billion reserves + various stabilization funds for another 80-120bn.

      The Saudis annual budget of 272 billion for 2020. They will live on reserves for 2 years, even if they cancel all taxes and they will throw oil on the market for free.
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        And Russia is 145 million people! Not 30 like Saudi Arabia ...
    5. smart ass 10 March 2020 22: 02 New
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      Saudi Arabia can conspire with the states and drop oil in 20 bucks, and the states will compensate all costs for arabia by printing bucks
  7. rocket757 10 March 2020 06: 55 New
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    It turns out that no one “untied” the ruble from the main domestic property in the form of hydrocarbons, and now we all have to taste the far from sweet fruits of the preserved vicious dependence?

    In principle, lower prices for raw materials during the crisis, this is a standard phenomenon ....
    Moreover, the promised "buffer" somehow suspiciously cracked,

    And where did they get this? so far nothing is obvious .... but as soon as, so right away!
    the funds available in the National Welfare Fund of more than 10 trillion rubles are more than enough to compensate for "budget revenues falling out due to lower oil prices." Including to maintain financial stability in the country.

    But we will see it and feel when \ if all this happens.
    After all, we can’t change anything ... we are just extras and what to do ??? you can stock up with salt and matches, or you can "sit on the mound" and just look ...
    1. 30143 10 March 2020 07: 41 New
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      Dollars had to stock up. And they carried out a whole campaign to seize them ... I am for every Russian to have a financial pillow under his head and not be an extras.
      1. rocket757 10 March 2020 07: 56 New
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        But how many of our compatriots can afford to stock up with something other than salt and matches?
        The realist boom, the people, for the most part, are poor and no movements for the better are foreseen.
        To say that they themselves are to blame, this is not always ... although the determining factor is that they themselves have chosen such a system and the government is welcome.
        1. unhappy 10 March 2020 09: 10 New
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          They themselves have chosen such a system and power - this is welcome.

          You tell me - the earth is flat!
          Democracy - carrot on a fishing rod for a donkey, the mud of a gas pedal.
          1. rocket757 10 March 2020 09: 26 New
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            Quote: unhappy
            You tell me - the earth is flat!

            There were such .... sure. Funny guys, however.
            Quote: unhappy
            Democracy - carrot on a fishing rod for a donkey, the mud of a gas pedal.

            Well, you have to joke about it sometimes ... you can play dermocracy too.
            1. Reptiloid 10 March 2020 19: 07 New
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              Greetings, Victor! bully Say to play in democracy ??
              Just keep in mind that on the one hand he plays a sharpie, and on the other ----- an idealist who is naive beyond his years. It is clear who is always the winner.
              1. rocket757 10 March 2020 19: 32 New
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                Hi Dmitry soldier
                Such a game is assigned \ chosen by yourself.
                Soviet man is like karma, a tempting object for all sorts of crooks and crooks ... and little has changed for him in previous years. The new generation is not like that anymore! Very smart, the majority did not become, but more cynical and more impudent, selfish !!! The finished product to build a new "perfect world of capitalism"!
                1. Reptiloid 10 March 2020 19: 51 New
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                  Quote: rocket757
                  ....... Soviet man is like karma, a tempting object for all crooks and crooks ... and little has changed for him in previous years. The new generation is not like that anymore! Very smart, the majority did not become, but more cynical and more impudent, selfish !!! The finished product to build a new "perfect world of capitalism"!
                  In my work with a new generation, I often can say that it lends itself strongly to “divorce”. Moreover, completely unexpected topics can be caught .... Yes, they are different, but they are also "" bred "" differently. ... those who want to turn their own way
                  1. rocket757 10 March 2020 20: 03 New
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                    Our fat belly also snooped back and forth in the world of illusions for a long time. Capital letters, it seems, emerged from there and now they have their own interests, not very connected with foreign partners, somehow tied to our country .... some have sprouted there thoroughly and have become an enemy force, without options.
                    Youth is a product of our connivance, the stupidity of many people who should THINK about the normal functioning of the state. Now we have IT, which no one can explain to him.
                    1. Reptiloid 10 March 2020 20: 10 New
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                      Perhaps, somehow, they themselves should be determined and learn to see the deception or lack of co-operation of those who promise milk rivers and jelly banks ??
                      1. rocket757 10 March 2020 20: 13 New
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                        Someone who has convolutions in his head, maybe he will understand ... and the rest should be reported as ... for someone who knows where to go.
  8. oracul 10 March 2020 07: 09 New
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    It would be surprising if this did not happen. Or someone comforts themselves with the hope that the West has come to terms with the growing role of Russia in the world. He always looked and will look for any opportunities to strike in any, preferably unexpected, place, be it inside the country or outside it, in the military sphere, in the economy or finance, in the field of science or disarmament, in the field of education, culture , sports and youth education. And, as always, on the side of evil, in choosing the time and place for the attack, they have an advantage - the right of the first move. At the same time, they will use all means for their success: terrorists of all stripes, information, cybernetic, financial, economic, up to the military, resources. And the fifth column inside the country will help them. Recently I noticed that in addition to Match TV, it was somehow friendly, most of the popular sports sites became mass news channels about foreign sports life, which filled their main pages.
    1. Ross xnumx 10 March 2020 08: 59 New
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      Quote: oracul
      Or someone comforts themselves with the hope that the West has come to terms with the growing role of Russia in the world.

      How did you get with your "gain" ... Yes, the West wanted to sneeze on Russia and all its "amplifications" ... By the way, what did this gain manifest in? Europe closed sanctions? Decided to share technology with Russia? Is the Russian ruble included in the list of reserve currencies? Have illegally detained and deported Russian citizens returned to their homeland? Case on Skripaly and Boeing closed? No one else has anything against the cleanliness of Russian athletes? Europe rushed to solve the problems of establishing peaceful life in Syria, Libya and ... Solved the issue on the SP-2 pipe?
      What is the increased prestige of Russia in the international arena? In the assurances of a false guarantor or expressions of concern of the Russian Foreign Ministry?
      No, dear man! This at Malchish-Kibalchish was:
      - Why, Malchish, the damned Kibalchish, both in my High Bourgeoisie and in the other - the Plain Kingdom, and in the third - the Kingdom of the Snow, and in the fourth - the Sultry State on the same day in early spring and on the same day in late autumn in different languages, but the same songs are sung, in different hands, but the same banners are carried, the same speeches speak, they think the same and they do the same?

      And today, every day, the Western bourgeoisie, the overseas state, and the eastern empire just do what they continue to spoil through the Starpers-Badies who have "set up" in the Russian country, keeping stolen barrels of jam and baskets of cookies for them in overseas stores.
  9. Valery Valery 10 March 2020 07: 12 New
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    What will happen to Siluanov if he is lying ?!
    There will be nothing to him!
    But Sechin may answer ...
  10. Sotskiy 10 March 2020 07: 15 New
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    And such a situation ...

    What is the situation like? Since the devaluation of 2014, how much time has passed, 6 years? And before her was 2008, the same 6 years. As they say it's time my friend, it's time. In capitalism there is no other way; crises are not an integral part of it. And given the de-industrialized, commodity-based economy, it’s even surprising that so much lasted. For that, the sausages on the shelves are full and you can buy Chinese jeans! lol
    1. Dmitry Zverev 10 March 2020 09: 13 New
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      Exactly, this bourgeois capitalist paradise is sick of it. Today is March 10th. I haven’t received all the salary for January. Right now, all sorts of reductions will begin, optimization, a huge number of workers will suffer. The bourgeois are doing their job well, this cannot be taken away from them.
    2. Igoresha 10 March 2020 10: 07 New
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      There is no other way in capitalism
      tell the Swiss and other Swedes
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        Quote: Igoresha
        There is no other way in capitalism
        tell the Swiss and other Swedes

        Here are the Swedes and tell me, they’ll definitely be happy for a barrel for $ 35 laughing
  11. Sergey_33 10 March 2020 07: 17 New
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    Quote: Dur_mod
    Not raw materials, but people, population - this is the main wealth of the country, than more people, the higher the consumption and production.

    When the authorities will understand what richer
    people live, the faster the country will become financially and politically stable.

    It seems to me that demographics and oil prices are not connected in any way. In general, the message is correct. 300 + million people for the country's population is it.
  12. yuliatreb 10 March 2020 07: 17 New
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    There is nothing surprising in this, but what could be expected from a commodity economy, which entirely depends on the price of caustobiolites and let those who argued the opposite go down from heaven to Russia. Continue to invest billions of dollars in US government bonds and they will be happy, and the people will groan once again, and the mother’s government will endure all the hardships and deprivations of the next economic failure of our ruling elites.
  13. Al Asad 10 March 2020 07: 18 New
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    The current tsar of Russia constantly pushes that everything will be fine ........... with him, his friends, whom he added in batches to "well-fed" posts and the oligarchs loyal to the Kremlin. Well, and with a loyal army of officials
    And if something like default of 1998 happens, the Tsar will hypocritically apologize for the next time and most of the country will live like homeless people.
    1. yuliatreb 10 March 2020 07: 58 New
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      Him to the King as the United States before democracy
  14. Jurkovs 10 March 2020 07: 20 New
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    Author! Do not drive horses. Before the collapse, the ruble was 66, during the collapse it fell to 75, and this morning it is already 67 green. So that speculators have already exhaled, exhale you too.
    1. Whisper 10 March 2020 07: 28 New
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      73.58 to be exact! Do you live at the Central Bank rate? Bidding has not yet begun. Do you think he will go to 50 today?
    2. Alexander I 10 March 2020 08: 52 New
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      And what they did, he really is right now $ 67,52; E75,84 at open bidding and I think for some period it will be held to relieve panic
      1. Monster_Fat 10 March 2020 10: 52 New
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        Yeah. What about exchangers? wink
    3. Victorio 10 March 2020 11: 28 New
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      Quote: Jurkovs
      Author! Do not drive horses. Before collapse of the ruble cost 66, during the collapse fell to 75, and this morning it is already 67 green. So that speculators have already exhaled, exhale you too.

      ===
      I think no, they will squeeze out as much of the situation as possible
  15. Whisper 10 March 2020 07: 25 New
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    According to statements by officials from the Ministry of Finance and its leader, the accumulations of Russia will be enough to survive from 6 to 10 years of "low barrel". - This budget will be implemented, and ordinary people working in the post office will starve to death!
  16. 7,62h54 10 March 2020 07: 33 New
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    A couple of Houthi attacks on Saudi oil refineries, and the price will creep up.
  17. Sands Careers General 10 March 2020 07: 35 New
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    Even the exchange has not opened yet, and the “experts” are pushing ahead with forecasts and yelling “the boss is all gone”)))
  18. Million 10 March 2020 07: 38 New
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    Moreover, the promised "buffer" somehow suspiciously cracked

    Does anyone else believe "promise" ??? All trust limits he has long spent
  19. Pilat2009 10 March 2020 07: 51 New
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    Quote: Jurkovs
    So, personally, why do you need a high ruble? What would travel abroad? Yes, with a high ruble it is cheaper. But with a high ruble, it is just not profitable to export oil (less margin) and it is profitable to import equipment to the detriment of its own industry. And with a weak ruble, everything is exactly the same and in the country it is more profitable to produce goods, and not to buy them abroad. When food safety is ensured in the country, then the average person should have some sort of ruble to dollar exchange rate, unless of course this does not interfere with his trip to Turkey or Europe.

    Are you falling off the moon? All prices are tied to the dollar, from gasoline to cars and refrigerators.
    1. Sgt. 10 March 2020 07: 55 New
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      This is because, nothing is done in our country, thanks to those who govern the state
      1. Ross xnumx 10 March 2020 09: 03 New
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        Quote: Sergeant
        This is because, with us nothing is producedthanks to those who govern the state

        And those who govern the state are ours for us? belay
        1. Million 10 March 2020 09: 12 New
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          They say that yes, but probably everyone has a residence permit or citizenship of other states, even NATO members
    2. Zaurbek 10 March 2020 07: 55 New
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      Not everything and not directly .... but 60% directly.
  20. Pilat2009 10 March 2020 07: 54 New
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    Quote: Sands Career General
    Even the exchange has not opened yet, and the “experts” are pushing ahead with forecasts and yelling “the boss is all gone”)))

    Well, if the American crashed by 7 percent, you can imagine how much our crashes. The dollar on Forex at the weekend, 75 was trading
  21. Zaurbek 10 March 2020 07: 54 New
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    Every 5-6 years, the course sags ... we worn out, what accumulations can we talk about for a long time? Pension fund and other long-term deposits? And this is against the backdrop of a "concern" about the decline in real incomes of the population ... the next stage is the increase in gas and gas prices, then electricity. Everything is tied to $ there.
  22. Livonetc 10 March 2020 08: 07 New
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    Speculative games are taking place amid claims of increased production and coronavirus.
    Nothing fundamental.
    As soon as speculators take profits, they will return closer to their previous positions.
    1. Victorio 10 March 2020 11: 07 New
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      Quote: Livonetc
      Speculative games are taking place amid claims of increased production and coronavirus.
      Nothing fundamental.
      Once speculators take profit, there will be a return closer to previous positions.

      ====
      it is not only speculators who want to earn (
  23. pivnik 10 March 2020 08: 12 New
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    funny, "comrades" gathered and discussing a "training manual" among themselves :)
  24. fif21 10 March 2020 08: 21 New
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    What influenced the fall in oil prices-1. Decrease in production in China, the USA, Japan ... the reason is panic due to the coronvirus + general trends of the economy overheating, overstocking, falling car sales .... 2. The budget of the Russian Federation is calculated from the cost 40 green oil, there are no problems with budget implementation. 3. While payments for oil are in dollars, the economies of all oil-producing countries will depend on green. Need urgent departure from settlements in green papers. 4. Rising prices for exported goods will serve to stimulate the development of the Russian economy (relatively cheap Russian goods will have competitive advantages) 5. The flow of tourists going abroad will be reduced several times. hi
    1. Edward Vashchenko 10 March 2020 08: 42 New
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      Rising prices for exported goods will serve to stimulate the development of the Russian economy (relatively cheap Russian goods will have competitive advantages)

      And what is produced in the Russian Federation? and is not based on an import component, even in the military-industrial complex ???
      1. pivnik 10 March 2020 09: 37 New
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        Is it really bad? an example of a su-35 costs us 30, we sell at 70-80 - i.e. for each sold - one for free and so on throughout the military-industrial complex ... India will not let you lie on the tanks ...
        1. Edward Vashchenko 10 March 2020 19: 00 New
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          And who gave you the secret info at cost? Who calculated so, straight iPhone
      2. 3x3zsave 11 March 2020 22: 00 New
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        And what is produced in the Russian Federation? and is not based on an import component, even in the military-industrial complex ???
        Bayonet shovels for fire shields. Despite the fact that when extinguishing a fire, a shovel is more effective at times.
    2. IS-80_RVGK2 10 March 2020 12: 15 New
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      Need urgent departure from settlements in green papers.

      I wonder how you imagine it.
      1. Alexander I 10 March 2020 15: 48 New
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        need a powerful domestic market with a large mass of available cash
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          In general, it’s clear. How really it can be done you do not know.
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            no one knows, no such people now
  25. Prisoner 10 March 2020 08: 31 New
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    I want to believe the peppy statements of the authorities and experts on the salary, but I live for a long time and have heard a lot of statements, and have seen something. what I'd like to believe, but not very successful. no In spring, I will plant potatoes and more. So just in case. winked
  26. Ross xnumx 10 March 2020 08: 37 New
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    World oil prices collapsed, dragging the Russian ruble with them ... ”So what, in fact, is happening?

    An interesting question is: “But what really happens?” What happens always happens - reality disproves all the theoretical prerequisites for the development of Russia until the year 2050. It’s just such a small slap in the face of all Putin’s promises, breakthroughs, plans and votes.
    Immediately I will lower to the earth those "greatest" economists who believe that it is precisely Russian industry (oil production) that has decided to build a world oil market. The weight category is not that the world began to listen to the sounds of a gas station.
    One could also believe that it was the guarantor who ordered the collapse of the oil market by squeezing out “shale oil” from it, but the simplest example, when Russia “cannot” force the Ukrainian authorities to supply water through the CCM, speaks of the low authority and the guarantor himself in the world the arena, and the newly assembled government, whose ethereal attempts we can enjoy in the near future.
    If this is one part of the fabulous "multi-step", in which the Putin team, having brought down the precarious stabilization in the exchange rates and quotes of Brenta, is trying to rally the "loose" electorate around the adoption of constitutional amendments, then its ending may be unpredictable.
    Most likely, those who believe that they lied to us, continue to lie and will lie, are right until the “kirdyk” comes to this whole mess under the name of the feudal oligarchic pseudo-liberal market with state participation.
    And, if anyone has forgotten, the same Hero of Russia sits in the presidential administration, with an easy supply of which the 1998 crisis occurred ... Since then, the Russian economy, which has not recovered from the blow, was successfully put on Kukan in 2008, 2014 and ...
  27. Essex62 10 March 2020 08: 38 New
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    And who knows how to make sure that Russia and its citizens are not shaking along with world speculators?
  28. Stirbjorn 10 March 2020 08: 48 New
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    As usual, the cost of a green currency went up to 75 rubles per unit, as many immediately recalled the assurances that had been heard not so long ago that the exchange rate of the Russian currency was no longer tied to world prices for black gold.
    It is not attached when the price of oil rises - as it was 65, it remained, but when it falls, it becomes very attached, which we once again felt.
  29. Maks1995 10 March 2020 08: 54 New
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    Yes, it seems, and Great Putin said that ..
    What, and Putin the Greatest not to believe ???

    Under Boris, as the Americans allegedly did not like, all the time there was about 20 oil, I remember ...
  30. nov_tech.vrn 10 March 2020 09: 02 New
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    We will not ruffle the story of telling how the existing situation with the stability of our currency was built, but we recall the basic economic law, which our economists ignore. The stability of the national currency is created by a capacious domestic market, and not by the so-called embeddedness in the world economic system, on the contrary, with an insufficiently capacious domestic market, excessive dependence on the external one turns into speculative influence, which we now have. With low real risks, we have a speculative collapse. To combat this, moving beds is useless; staff need to be updated. Here you need to learn from the Chinese.
    1. CBR600 10 March 2020 10: 41 New
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      but let’s recall the basic economic law that our economists ignore. The stability of the national currency is created by a capacious domestic market

      Yes, it is clear that internal institutions should be more powerful than external ones, only who will allow this to our country? Where is the recognition of the sovereign in the UN? Where is the truth about the management of oil / gas state. companies? Apologizing to the country and not recognizing these mistakes is already a lie.
      __ And there is no foundation here for growth and strengthening, but the people are only impoverished, or rather they are dedemographed in the sense of utilizing it.
      __ There are laws for any system, but not for these.
      1. nov_tech.vrn 10 March 2020 13: 15 New
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        you have a strange design, you do not need verbiage, you need - cheap targeted loans, tax holidays, control over the use of allocated funds, so as not to be taken out of production to organize speculation
        1. CBR600 10 March 2020 13: 34 New
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          I admit that I did not quite express myself, I had to rewrite =)
          I was once answered a question about entrepreneurial subsidy- Ten skins will be ripped off of you if you shove it. I do not think that the reduction of the population and its (population) enterprises is verbiage. These are not market relations at all and not his (market) laws. This is banditry. Legislation. Hmmm-separation of ministries (meaning slipped).
          __ Cheap loans will be taken away and they will require interest for taking them.
          __ Holidays? And what THEY will buy new boats for? On the contrary, they will raise and come up with new ones.
          __ Zakharchenko second fit for control of funds? They read about Reshustin, where is he from?
          There is nothing to develop here, why? This is Russia, mother. Actually about the note, there is nothing to be surprised. No questions.
          __ The right way, comrades!
          1. Monster_Fat 11 March 2020 07: 28 New
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            Cool, but the "bad Americans", back in the 90s, when inflation galloped across Russia, proposed to introduce the dollar instead of the "wooden ruble" as the currency. The “Russians” did not want to.
            1. Golovan Jack 11 March 2020 08: 25 New
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              Quote: Monster_Fat
              Cool, but the "bad Americans", back in the 90s, when inflation galloped across Russia, proposed to introduce the dollar instead of the "wooden ruble" as a currency

              Good guys laughing

              And they also proposed to issue a dollar in the Russian Federation? wink

              Quote: Monster_Fat
              "Russians" did not want

              Well, at least something these "Russians" did right laughing
              1. Monster_Fat 11 March 2020 10: 48 New
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                Here, "uncle" makes interesting conclusions: https://fedeter.livejournal.com/33835.html winked
                Although, here is the "other uncle" in 2012, wrote, almost, the "opposite": https://miccro.livejournal.com/85680.html sad
                And, to whom, to believe ..... request
  31. IvanT 10 March 2020 09: 09 New
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    Mdyayayaya ... Here then our propagandists got into a puddle!
    Have Chubat straight holiday)
  32. Kolin 10 March 2020 10: 10 New
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    Astrologers have announced a week of traders. The number of traders is increasing 10 times. The depth of their thoughts increases 20 times.
  33. Vyacheslav Viktorovich 10 March 2020 10: 14 New
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    The ruble was called lost its dependence on oil, and it fell after the barrel
    The golden, immortal words of Viktor Stepanovich Chernomyrdin are the best suited to the moment.

    update: glanced over the comments - Chernomyrdin is present. I approve.
  34. Victorio 10 March 2020 11: 01 New
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    Approximately such sentiments reigned in the Russian information space this Monday, even though it turned out to be a day off
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    yes price drop, yes crisis crisis, but to trace something and find out sources excitement / sharp demand for currency is possible if desired, and no one has canceled this obligation
  35. flicker 10 March 2020 11: 09 New
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    They write that today, the Russian ambassador to the United States, Antonov, met with the US Treasury Secretary Mnuchin. It was, among other things, about stability in the energy markets, and it sounded from the lips of Mnuchin.
    It can be assumed that the current situation significantly and negatively affects the state of the shale oil industry in the United States.
  36. Victorio 10 March 2020 11: 22 New
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    funny, "comrades" gathered and discussing a "training manual" among themselves :)

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    training manuals, alas, this is to today's Ukraine. her attributes
  37. avib 10 March 2020 14: 54 New
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    Israeli news sites write that Putin bent the United States and the collapse in prices of nan oil destroys the entire shale oil industry, which is in huge debt in the US .... So ... for information. But on the other hand, they note that the Russian economy does not shine well either, since it is completely dependent on oil prices. But apparently there will be nothing to Putin and his power from an increase in the dollar against the ruble and lower living standards of Russians. So he plays games and pampers his ego.
    1. Kushka 10 March 2020 16: 48 New
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      Here is the USA. yes USA
      a) oil industry in the United States 1% of GDP - they will not notice anything,
      b) shale oil industry in the USA - a small share, the rest is ordinary production,
      c) US BUYER of oil -7,5 million / bpd (export only 1,5) -
      What markets will they take from?
      What happened is the “war” of the Russian Federation and the SA, the rest is from the evil one.
  38. 16112014nk 10 March 2020 15: 35 New
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    IIS with the support of GDP brewed all this mess. What is the result? The people as "new oil" will compensate the "lost income" to home-grown oil bourgeoisie, and a couple - three of the new dollar billionaires - will appear.
  39. Seld 10 March 2020 16: 36 New
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    About how !!!!
    Expected ...
    Now, specialists in world currency transactions crawled out to the site !!!!!
    Eeeeeeee! Friends !!!! And what difference does it make to you, how much is a rupee worth to a buck?!?!?! By the way, why exactly is the course towards the buck so disturbing?!?!?!?! In the white world there are many other currencies. Or?.....
    Or did the cartopel and marko rise sharply from Monday to fluorine? Or milk is not enough sharply? Or, abruptly, the minibus with the bus left for the period? And instead of 40 p. cost 4000 r?!?!?!?! Are the so-so-specialized currency traders so zadurgaliso?
    Well, it costs $ 80 .... And what?!?!?!?! Did the water in the tap disappear? ... It became dark to breathe and the air was not immediately visible?
    I’ll tell you a secret: the owner of an expensive world currency is not at all enthusiastic about this incident. Aha-aha ... From a word absolutely ... But rather, even, on the contrary! But this is so, to the speculation of specialists-currency traders, macro-eco-economists.
    1. Shahno 10 March 2020 16: 39 New
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      Moreover, I dare to assume that not many of them are plus traders laughing
  40. parusnik 10 March 2020 18: 33 New
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    What you were like, you have remained so ... a song about a wooden ruble .. And as you shouted about a ruble in the 80s in the beginning of the 90s, there can be no ruble wooden, we will make it convertible ... And they did ... laughing
    1. Reptiloid 10 March 2020 18: 54 New
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      What you were like, you have remained so ... a song about a wooden ruble .. And as you shouted about a ruble in the 80s in the beginning of the 90s, there can be no ruble wooden, we will make it convertible ... And they did ... laughing

      It was necessary to somehow lure the people, and no promises were supposed to be fulfilled. Good evening, Alexey. hi hi
      1. parusnik 10 March 2020 20: 06 New
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        Good evening Dmitry! hi For the "bazaar", you need to answer .. But not to whom, your circle .. laughing
        1. Reptiloid 10 March 2020 20: 16 New
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          Quote: parusnik
          Good evening Dmitry! hi For the "bazaar", you need to answer .. But not to whom, your circle .. laughing

          The main thing is to understand that no promises are supposed to be kept. So, they promised, distracted for some time, reduced dissatisfaction due to beautiful words, and enough ....