The idea to rename the Arctic Ocean to the Russian Arctic appeared in Russia

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The idea to rename the Arctic Ocean to the Russian Arctic appeared in Russia

A certain Institute of Expert Evaluation, which, as indicated on its website, deals with issues of the sociocultural development of Russia, proposed to rename the Arctic Ocean to the Russian Arctic Ocean.

"Renaming to the Russian Arctic Ocean would be logical and fair. This would be fair in relation to the great maritime power, which in this water region occupies not only the largest territory, but also the richest shelf for explored minerals, as well as the most numerous fleet and the leading position in the study of this unique in its climatic features of the ocean ", - quoted by Interfax, the statement of the Director of the Institute of expert assessments Nikolay Pavlyuk.

According to him, there are several reasons for renaming the Arctic Ocean - quite, in his opinion, objective. As Pavlyuk noted, "the Russian border, which is washed by this ocean, is the longest in the north, much of the ocean floor is a natural continuation of the continental rocks that originate in Russia."

The expert noted that the Arctic Ocean is the smallest ocean on Earth, but in terms of the number of islands, it ranks second after the Pacific Ocean. "The islands and archipelagoes are mainly of continental origin. Most of them belong to Russia. This is Franz Josef Land, Novaya Zemlya, Severnaya Zemlya, Novosibirsk Islands, Wrangel Island. This fact alone would be enough to rename," Pavlyuk does not doubt.

Russia, he said, made the greatest contribution to the study of the ocean. It was Russian, and then Soviet, researchers who made the most discoveries in the Arctic Ocean. He recalled the names of such Russian scientists as Semyon Dezhnev, Semyon Chelyuskin, Alexander Kolchak, Otto Schmidt, Ivan Papanin.

"It was our country that opened and used the Northern Sea Route for decades, navigating the seemingly impassable ocean of other countries. The Soviet icebreaking fleet is still unsurpassed in the world," Pavlyuk added.

He noted that the Arctic Ocean changed its name over the centuries. It was called the Hyperborean, the Scythian Ocean, the Arctic Sea and even the Tatar Ocean.

At the same time, Pavlyuk referred to the opinion of the expert council of the Institute, noting that it includes a direct descendant of the famous Russian travelers Dmitry and Khariton Laptev, Yury Laptev. “The initiative to rename the ocean on behalf of our institute is to some extent logical. And with this proposal we will appeal to the leadership of the country,” said Pavlyuk.

Note that the Institute’s website offers a variety of questions for discussion, for example, the need to recover Soviet investments from the Baltic republics, or the "Magnitsky list" as a way to overthrow the Russian authorities.

The head of the Memorial Society, the historian and human rights activist Arseny Roginsky, commented on Pavlyuk’s idea: “If this is not a bad joke, then this is nonsense and not related to history name ". According to Roginsky, in this case we are talking about the unwise manifestation of national patriotism.
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  1. MILITARY RF
    +5
    25 July 2012 11: 33
    it’s high time .. it’s a very large part of the ocean with us .... and only we swim on it ..
    1. +12
      25 July 2012 11: 54
      It sounds beautiful, but you had to do it in the 70s now it's just a PR move and no more.
      1. +2
        25 July 2012 12: 18
        Quote: MILITARY RF
        and only we swim on it

        Floats humino, do not confuse the concept of walking and swimming "-". Themselves would at least once try to go through the pack.
      2. svs
        svs
        0
        26 July 2012 00: 49
        today it’s only a PR move, and tomorrow, on the basis of this, it will be possible to pump right if the country pumps up muscles.
        There are a lot of examples of this: China, for example, shakes with all sorts of ancient maps, (whether ancient? Or drawn thirty years ago) on which this or that territory is primordially Chinese, or the USSR signed a convention on small northern peoples, and some "partners are poking at a loss "They say Siberia is a colony of the Russian Federation, how great it would be to free the northern peoples.
        So PR - with consequences, perhaps.
    2. Barrel
      0
      25 July 2012 18: 21
      It's time to know that you are not alone:

      http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Северо-Западный проход
    3. Neutral
      0
      25 July 2012 19: 01
      A bit about ice and oceans


      US authorities conceal radiation leak in Alaska and impending environmental disaster

      According to unofficial data leaking from the yoke of censorship of the “most free and democratic state”, the US authorities have been carefully hiding for several months from the population of the country and the whole world the fact of the destruction of the nuclear reactor shell at the military base in Fort Greeley, Alaska the end of the 1970s, as well as the violation of the tightness of the storage facilities for solid and liquid radioactive waste, and, accordingly, the impending large-scale environmental disaster, threatening not only the population of Alaska, but also neighboring countries.

      According to American environmentalists, a radiation leak discovered and hidden from citizens primarily threatens the residents of the area near Clearwater Lake (irony of fate - the name of the lake in Russian is “clear water”) and the village of Delta Junction.

      In May this year, emergency work began on the territory of the emergency base of the US Department of Defense to build additional reactor shell protection, as well as a fire department equipped with radiation protection and decontamination facilities. At the direction of Washington, an urgent transfer to Alaska of part of the stockpiles of medicines intended to reduce the effects of radiation on people is being carried out. Mobile complexes for monitoring radioactive contamination were delivered to three settlements in Alaska.

      At the same time, the American authorities are trying by all means to prevent the media from getting information about the accident at a nuclear facility, especially about the increase in the background radiation level and the real state of the reactor.

      But this would only be a half-hearted solution to the information problem for the US authorities, seasoned in the battles of the Cold War. Therefore, in order to distract the attention of its too inquisitive ecologists and inquisitive journalists, Washington launched in the media a time-tested duck that the increase in the radiation background in Alaska was the result of the work of Russian atomic icebreakers in the Arctic. Bullshit, of course, but the necessary effect on an impressionable Western audience has been produced.
      Moreover, these statements completely fit into Washington’s policy of hindering the activities and squeezing Russia out of the Arctic.
      Thus, the USA, as a “superpower” and “world exporter of democracy”, once again demonstrated its true face - or rather a grimace, propagating and planting pseudo-democratic values ​​around the world, in fact, are an example of a totalitarian state for which double standards and lies the norm, and the threat to the health of their own citizens is not a reason for publicly declaring an impending nuclear disaster. The stiffness, arrogance and confidence in one’s exclusivity once again played a cruel joke on the “stronghold of democracy”, which now has to lie to its citizens and the world, dodging and pouring mud on neighboring countries.

      But radiation has no political coloring and state affiliation, therefore, it doesn’t care for what "values" and geopolitical interests the American authorities left the population of Alaska alone with the impending tragedy. And for other countries that fall into the affected zone of a radiation leak from a US military base, American propaganda reports on Russian icebreakers in the Arctic, the corresponding “worried” statement by the US State Department, and most likely the “UN resolution” on this issue are already ready and, if necessary, NATO’s “Storm on an Ice” plan and so on will be hastily developed. We have already seen all this more than once. Nothing changes in the United States through the looking glass!

      But in this situation, the role, or rather its absence, of the “most independent and free” American journalists and human rights activists, who so love to reproach the Russian government for undemocracy, opacity, and persecution of independent media, was especially pronounced.

      Judging by the information vacuum around the reactor in Alaska, which has been maintained for several months, there is clearly no persecution of the media in the United States, the long-established system of state censorship simply works clearly, the most authoritative and independent journalists and public figures do not decide to argue or oppose it. Since in the event of resistance to state policy, their fate will be unenviable, and the condemnation of the "ecologist" Pasko in Russia will seem to them an easy walk. And this is not only about the electric chair, financial consequences and the actual ban on the profession in the USA, but to a greater extent is connected with the little-known fact that all independent American foundations and associations of journalists and public figures who are “investigating” the crimes of the “bloody regimes”, “ Mafia "and" disasters "around the world, in fact, exist on grants from the Department of State and structures affiliated with the US administration. Therefore, the concepts of "independent journalist" or "public figure" in the United States are very arbitrary. In this regard, none of the American media has so far not only not had the urge to conduct an independent journalistic investigation into the situation at the military base in Alaska, but even look towards the emergency reactor.
  2. ivansaxonov
    +12
    25 July 2012 11: 34
    "Russian Arctic Ocean" - I like it, I'm for it! :)
  3. +7
    25 July 2012 11: 35
    And we’ll call Antarctica Muscovy, while the Russians discovered it!
  4. scrack
    +5
    25 July 2012 11: 41
    It would be necessary to join the Arctic to Russia
  5. soldat1945
    +2
    25 July 2012 11: 43
    And why not, I like it!
  6. MILITARY RF
    +2
    25 July 2012 11: 44
    the main thing is that the Japanese do not come .... and do not say it is our okyan
  7. +4
    25 July 2012 11: 45
    "A certain Institute of expert assessments"

    I have a teacher, in such cases he said - DEBILS.

    Why should we wave a red rag? For what...

    I am not unambiguous about Memorial, but in this case, I support " The head of the Memorial society, historian and human rights activist Arseniy Roginsky, commented on Pavlyuk's idea in the following way: "If this is not a bad joke, then this is stupidity, in no way connected with the history of the name." According to Roginsky, in this case we are talking about stupid manifestation of national patriotism."
    Guys, we are bred out of the blue ...
    1. +4
      25 July 2012 13: 01
      Maybe yes, bred, but the idea is good!
    2. Ilyich
      +2
      25 July 2012 14: 51
      Quote: Z.A.M.
      about the stupid manifestation of national patriotism

      For all its apparent stupidity, the proposal has a very practical meaning. The struggle for the Arctic is unfolding. Even the Chinese will put their surlo there. Renaming the Arctic Ocean will give nothing more than precedent . With this name, it will be easier for Russia to prove its claim to the Arctic. Well, memorials are understandably indignant: they are not working for Russia.
  8. +1
    25 July 2012 11: 47
    Great idea !
  9. Kaa
    +3
    25 July 2012 11: 50
    "The wealth of Russia will grow in the North" - Lomonosov, it seems, wrote. So it's a perfectly reasonable proposal. It is only necessary to prepare icebreaker frigates ahead of time, otherwise even China has decided to buy and build icebreakers, obviously not for the South China Sea and not for the landing on Taiwan. Everybody there from Denmark, Iceland, Norway licks their lips, you know. Do not open your mouth on someone else's (Russian) loaf!
  10. sergskak
    +5
    25 July 2012 11: 54
    And I propose not to be limited to one ocean. Take a walk like that!
    1. 0
      25 July 2012 17: 39
      And I suggest not limited to one ocean.


      Well then, you need to call Zhirik He is the hotel boots in the Indian Ocean to wash!
      Well, at the same time rename the Pacific in the East Russian Ocean
      Black Sea - to Black-Russian
      So you look and become the fourth Rome (or the third?) That is, the PUP EARTH, the rest of the territory is attached.
  11. +2
    25 July 2012 11: 56
    And what? I am for! And for those who grind their teeth on the Russian Arctic, only the ice of the Arctic in the cold can be licked laughing
  12. +4
    25 July 2012 11: 57
    Good idea, but the fleet needs to be put in order
  13. +6
    25 July 2012 12: 02
    Is the question in the name?
    The main thing is to protect the resources of the Arctic, from all sorts of "crap"
    1. 0
      25 July 2012 13: 44
      volcano

      Exactly !!! +
      I read the commenters - most as children ...
      The most important thing is territorial affiliation and protection of one’s interests.
      No need to be compared to the Baltic and Polish bugs (meaning governments).
  14. +9
    25 July 2012 12: 04
    Yes, you can call it whatever you like, it would be good. When the Black Sea was called "Russian" - everything was clear, and who was the boss and who was respected. Only it was long ago. If you keep an agricultural fleet on the Arctic Ocean, and constantly use it for your own needs, then everyone will call it "Russian Ocean" anyway. Otherwise - a solid props.
  15. +2
    25 July 2012 12: 05
    Everyone knows what a cat does when he has nothing to do ...
  16. +2
    25 July 2012 12: 11
    And that idea is not bad, in the spirit of the times. You can put it on a par with replacing light bulbs, changing the clock, renaming the police to the police. The ocean, well, where will it go, but you can cut the dough on renaming. The main thing is to be at the right time in the right place. Bl .., aren't there really few problems in the country, where do you need to put your hands and head?
  17. patriot2
    +2
    25 July 2012 12: 15
    And create Arctic brigades, mobile and well equipped with equipment and personnel. Periodically visiting the North Pole in search of "IslamicSomali terrorists " smile
    Then Arctic Seven will definitely become RUSSIAN forever!
    1. sergskak
      0
      25 July 2012 12: 27
      So, first of all, it is necessary to create and staff and not to force events (renaming). From such statements it smells more like a provocation and the incentive for other countries to increase their presence there (so that it is not too late). The idea is good, but not timely.
  18. +1
    25 July 2012 12: 18
    Our government is not busy. For the people would try more. Indeed, much depends on him.
    Why maintain such a mediocre government. But they receive money from our pocket, the pocket of taxpayers.
    I don't care what the ocean is called, it doesn't make me cold or hot. It's a shame for the state. We chose them and in the end, they decided to rename the ocean. The politically correct and, most importantly, now the "necessary" decision has been made. Well what can I say - "the government, however."
    I would cut their salary to a minimum, for unnecessarily proposed ideas. And in general, he transferred them to cost accounting. The more he did for the people, the more he received.

    You can blame me if I'm wrong.
    1. +1
      25 July 2012 13: 02
      where does the government? smile
      Quote: Delink
      A certain Institute of expert assessments, proposed to rename ...


      before writing a comment to an article, at least read it first ..
    2. red 015
      0
      25 July 2012 13: 03
      off topic write
  19. 0
    25 July 2012 12: 18
    The idea is certainly great, but is it realizable?
  20. wolverine7778
    +1
    25 July 2012 12: 23
    Yes, for God's sake, you can change. This certainly requires coordination with all countries of the world, so how many cards then need to be changed wassat
    1. +2
      25 July 2012 12: 32
      Quote: wolverine7778
      etozh how many cards then need to be changed

      what for? only ours, for, for example, nothing prevents the Japanese and Chinese from drawing their maps, drawing Russian lands for themselves.
  21. itr
    +4
    25 July 2012 12: 24
    Yes, you can call him even an ass. Anyway, a fleet is needed there.
    1. +2
      25 July 2012 12: 35
      Quote: itr
      Anyway, the fleet is needed there

      Very correct remark !!!
  22. +2
    25 July 2012 12: 30
    rename the Arctic Ocean to the Russian Arctic Ocean

    And to return to the Black Sea the historical name - Russian!

    descendant of Dmitry and Khariton

    some homosexual ...
  23. -1
    25 July 2012 12: 30
    And the Black Sea used to be called Russian. So what?
    1. 0
      25 July 2012 12: 44
      Yes, we’ll call all the seas Russian .......: -)))))))))) ... in general, this is nonsense of course. We must deal with the need to strengthen the presence in the Arctic and not play into words
  24. 0
    25 July 2012 12: 30
    And it would be great if only so that the whole o_ran ovo-dermokraticheskaya went into another hysteria. Perhaps earlier they would die from their anger and hatred of Russia.
  25. Eugene
    +3
    25 July 2012 12: 38
    The idiocy is complete. They have nothing to do there?
  26. 0
    25 July 2012 12: 43
    I propose, not just to join the Arctic and Antarctic, but also then Europe with America.
    It seems to me that it would not be a bad idea to develop such events))) bully wassat
  27. 0
    25 July 2012 12: 45
    Why not! Moreover, the Chinese are already practicing this in full.
  28. -3
    25 July 2012 12: 55
    The territory is good, but not arctic. Russia abandoned Alaska, just as Norway kicked off Denmark’s Greenland, and Denmark gave it to the indigenous the Chinese to the Inuit. Although there is a sea of ​​minerals both there and there, but to extract their unprofitable business is like collecting on the Moon, even with modern technologies. And what good can be in a completely icy ocean? Unless fresh water for export to Africa. And rename - rename if possible winked
  29. Trofimov174
    +1
    25 July 2012 13: 22
    Common thought) The next step is to rename Eurasia to Russia, anyway we occupy most of it)))
  30. sorrento
    0
    25 July 2012 13: 29
    Then let's rename Russia too, into "Mother Rus"
  31. amph1cyon
    +2
    25 July 2012 15: 05
    I think this is a dumb idea, radish horseradish is not sweeter. Well, let's change the name, but what will change? Will the country get rich or will privileges go to people?
  32. MHP
    MHP
    0
    25 July 2012 16: 40
    Breaking news "In Zimbabwe, having learned that a certain institute came up with an initiative to rename the Arctic Ocean into the Russian Arctic Ocean, having gathered in a narrow circle, they decided to unequivocally challenge this initiative and come up with their own about renaming the Zimbab Arctic Ocean"

    PS information is verified
  33. 0
    25 July 2012 21: 08
    Most likely, this idea was thrown for a complete descritization of Russia. So that the West had one more excuse to scream about the imperial claims of Russia. I consider this article a throw-in. Moreover, with a not very good douche. Sincerely.
  34. +1
    25 July 2012 23: 02
    "Human rights activists" do not want the greatness of Russia, they should lick the priest of the West, closing their eyes with pleasure, when someone from the "civilized" (???) West, encouragingly pats them on the shoulder ... I have never heard from these "fighters" it is not clear why even a few words in favor of Russia or for its prosperity and exaltation, sheer stink! (about the last paragraph of the article)
  35. Odinplys
    +1
    26 July 2012 03: 42
    Quote: nnz226
    "Human rights activists" do not want the greatness of Russia, they should lick the priest of the West, closing their eyes with pleasure, when someone from the "civilized" (???) West, encouragingly pats them on the shoulder ... I have never heard from these "fighters" it is not clear why even a few words in favor of Russia or for its prosperity and exaltation, sheer stink! (about the last paragraph of the article)


    The face of a "human rights defender" ...

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