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The expert called the situation on the oil market “a war declared by Saudi Arabia”

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The Russian Ministry of Finance issued a statement in connection with a sharp drop in oil prices. Recall that in the morning auction the price of a barrel of Brent crude oil fell to the level of 31 dollars. Subsequently, prices slightly adjusted. Currently, the Brent barrel is trading at $ 36,3.


The Ministry of Finance noted that the price of Urals oil fell below the indicators established by the so-called budget rule. The report said that in this case, the revenue lost by the budget is compensated at the expense of the National Welfare Fund.

From the message of the department:

As of March 1, 2020, the volume of liquid assets of the NWF and funds in the account for accounting for additional oil and gas revenues amounted to more than 10,1 trillion rubles (150,1 billion US dollars) or 9,2% of GDP. These funds are sufficient to cover the shortfall in income from falling oil prices to 25-30 US dollars per barrel for (prices of 2017) 6-10 years (taking into account revenues under the damper mechanism). In the event that the volume of liquid assets of the NWF is reduced below 5% of GDP, the annual use of the Fund's resources to cover the deficits of the federal budget and the budget of the Pension Fund of the Russian Federation cannot exceed the amount equivalent to 1% of GDP.

Meanwhile, Leonid Krutakov, associate professor of the Financial University under the Russian government, described the situation in the hydrocarbon market as “the war unleashed by Saudi Arabia” on the air of TC “Russia 24”. Answering the question of whether Riyadh’s actions to increase oil production would inflict blow on American “shale” companies, the expert said that the actions of the Saudis should not be considered as directed against US interests. Krutakov notes that Riyadh has almost always acted in the interests of the United States.

Leonid Krutakov:

What is happening now actually means that Russia interrupted the game that the United States and Saudi Arabia tried to play in the long run. Russia's actions were a preemptive strike.

According to the expert, the current situation with oil prices lies more in the geopolitical plane than in the economic one. Krutakov notes that, first of all, Saudi Arabia is trying to play against Russia and Iran with its actions.
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  1. Whalebone
    Whalebone 9 March 2020 12: 41
    +11
    Has Putin outplayed everyone again? Those who do not have dollars in the storehouse, you were again thrown at the grandmother. Already 20 percent. Such is the Glavsterkh opupenny geopolitician. You can already shout "Hurray", it's time.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 9 March 2020 12: 45
      +2
      Quote: Whalebone
      Has Putin outplayed everyone again? Those who do not have dollars in the storehouse, you were again thrown at the grandmother. Already 20 percent. Such is the Glavsterkh opupenny geopolitician. You can already shout "Hurray", it's time.

      There, the whole team is "gifted" sometimes it seems that even too ..
      1. The comment was deleted.
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 9 March 2020 13: 20
          +9
          The expert called the situation on the oil market “a war declared by Saudi Arabia”

          I heard this news at 8:00 in the morning - I thought the same about SA.

          I remembered the events of the Soviet era when the Saudis, by agreement with the United States, lowered oil prices in exchange for modern scientific and technical technologies, and the economy of the USSR and the countries of the socialist camp rolled down.
          Now the exact same geopolitical PROXY-acceptance of the US strike on the Russian economy in the person of SA has been adopted.
          1. atalef
            atalef 9 March 2020 13: 24
            -13
            Quote: Tatiana
            and the economies of the USSR and the countries of the socialist camp rolled down.
            Now the exact same geopolitical PROXY-reception of the US strike on the Russian economy has been adopted.

            Ma'am, I would advise you together with the hanging ears of the State Department and the Zionists - to open your eyes and see Sechin's ears.
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 9 March 2020 13: 34
              +13
              Quote: atalef
              Ma'am, I would advise you together with the hanging ears of the State Department and the Zionists - to open your eyes and see Sechin's ears.

              Do you want to say that Sechin is opposed to Putin? !!

              Honestly, Atalef, what are you intriguing with Israeli intrigues among Russians here about the fall in world oil prices due to the increase in oil production from Saudi Arabia, it would be better if you congratulated me on the past March 8!
              1. New Year day
                New Year day 9 March 2020 14: 11
                +18
                Quote: Tatiana
                that Sechin is opposed to Putin? !!

                how is this possible!
                "The deal with OPEC to cut oil production was not in Russia's interests." This was announced to TASS by the press secretary of Rosneft Mikhail Leontyev.
                Bloomberg sources said that the head of Rosneft, Igor Sechin, had long been lobbying for a refusal to reduce oil production as part of a deal with OPEC. According to the interlocutor of The Bell, Sechin pushed Putin to break the deal with the argument about American shale oil. ““ Now we will show them! At the current price, they are actively investing in their shale oil, but its production at a price below $ 40 is hardly advisable, "and Rosneft can afford such a drop," Sechin told the Bell source.
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 9 March 2020 14: 31
                  -3
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  At the current price, they (USA) are actively investing in their shale oil, but its production at a price below $ 40 is hardly advisable, "and Rosneft can afford such a drop," Sechin told the Bell source.

                  Those. you personally, Sylvester, want to say that the CA at the global oil market acts on BV absolutely independently - without any PROXY support? !!
                  And also, want to say that Sechin INDEPENDENTLY and absolutely CONSCIOUSLY opposes the national interests of the Russian Federation itself, consciously substituting Putin and acting at a loss?

                  Sorry, but very little is believed in it!
                  1. vadim dok
                    vadim dok 9 March 2020 16: 40
                    +5
                    But it’s RF Minister Novak who left the OPEC + meeting when the issue of REDUCING oil production by 1,5 million barrels per day was discussed to SAVE the price! He slammed the door and left!
                    1. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 9 March 2020 16: 51
                      +16
                      Because Russia sees that the 2 main players are only increasing production, the United States - openly, CA - secretly! So why in these conditions should Russia behave differently ?!
                  2. Oyo Sarkazmi
                    Oyo Sarkazmi 9 March 2020 18: 13
                    -3
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    And also, want to say that Sechin INDEPENDENTLY and absolutely CONSCIOUSLY opposes the national interests of the Russian Federation itself, consciously substituting Putin and acting at a loss?

                    And what is Sechin risking? Domestic prices are denominated in rubles, and do not change .. Russia consumes three times more than exports. Of course, the subsidence of income by twenty percent is unpleasant, but experienced.
                    And the subsidence of exports, due to the warm winter and unused reserves, will also be less painful. Exports fell at low prices. And six months later, prices will creep up again.
                    And hope for the collapse of the shale is not worth it. The Fed bought their debts, and they produce gas and oil, as if they were drilling completely free. There is no severity of debt on their souls.
                    1. Dog
                      Dog 9 March 2020 20: 42
                      +6
                      Quote: Oo sarcasm
                      Domestic prices are denominated in rubles, and do not change

                      You were born after the 14th year?
                      I propose to explain, for example, to the Chinese, why they should now sell goods to us cheaper (in dollar terms).
                      Inflation last time was restrained by strangulation of the economy, cutting money supply in circulation with the help of the Central Bank rate. As a result, the margin of the business decreased, real incomes of citizens fell (the business kept the price of goods, including without indexing the salaries of employees) and everyone began to buy less, this stretched inflation statistics to some extent, not giving certain goods (housing on the secondary) , for example) grow in price greatly. But everything that is being transported from behind a hillock, or produced using components from a place, has risen in price, and significantly.
                      Thus, acceptable inflation figures were obtained by lowering our real incomes and the value of our property - in general, an acceptable result was obtained in the hospital.
                      1. Victor N
                        Victor N 10 March 2020 08: 51
                        +1
                        Import is becoming more expensive - a jerk for domestic producers appears. Buy Russian goods! Help make them better at your workplace.
                      2. Archon
                        Archon 10 March 2020 22: 58
                        0
                        The paradox is that even if you buy only Russian, it does not allow these products to develop. Most Russian companies are greedy and if the profit is large, then everything goes to the management, and if the profit falls, then just the lower employees receive less. Workers transferred to un, kept just for slaves, animals. And just xs what to do about it.
                2. Malyuta
                  Malyuta 9 March 2020 14: 54
                  +7
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  Sechin pushed Putin to break the deal with the argument about American shale oil. ““ Now we will show them! At the current price, they are actively investing in their shale oil, but its production at a price below $ 40 is hardly advisable, "and Rosneft can afford such a drop,"

                  Quote: Silvestr
                  who told you that? Quite the opposite - Sechin wanted to show "Kuzkin's mother"

                  But the chief hired manager says that Sechin is the best of the best, but that’s not for sure
                3. Po-tzan
                  Po-tzan 9 March 2020 16: 01
                  +3
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  This TASS said a spokeswoman for Rosneft Mikhail Leontyev.


                  He has a mind chamber wassat

                  1. Oyo Sarkazmi
                    Oyo Sarkazmi 9 March 2020 18: 25
                    0
                    Quote: PO-tzan
                    He has a mind chamber

                    Moreover, Chamber No. 6 ... fool
              2. atalef
                atalef 9 March 2020 17: 47
                +8
                Quote: Tatiana
                Do you want to say that Sechin is opposed to Putin? !!

                And why did you decide what Putin is against?
                Quote: Tatiana
                what Israeli intrigues are you doing here among Russians over the fall in world oil prices due to the increase in oil production from Saudi Arabia, it would be better if you congratulated me on the last March 8!

                Tatyana . From March 8th to you.
                March 8 is the day women struggle for their rights in order to have the same rights as men. not for that. to get a bunch of tulips. perfume or candy.
                So, in general, this holiday was born, arranged by Clara Zetken and Rosa Luxemburg (Jewish to your horror), and even worse for you is that Rosa was chosen this day because it is closest to the Jewish holiday of Purim (where as you probably know Esther defeated the villain Aman) - women's struggle wink all the same.
                So . you have achieved equal rights, and as you can see, even write on the same forum with men, you work and no one perceives you as something standing at a lower level.
                You (women) have achieved this and I congratulate you on this.
                So Tatyana, let’s omit this long introduction. in honor of March 8th. I wish you to work even harder. move up the career ladder, achieve complete equality with men (including in paying for restaurants) in everything. what do you think men are ahead of you.
                it is this spirit and letter of this holiday.
                Well, and from me - health and long life. love
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 9 March 2020 18: 14
                  +4
                  Quote: atalef
                  Tatyana . From March 8th to you.
                  Well, from me - health and long life.

                  Well, thank God! feel laughing
                  Thank you, Alexander, for your congratulations! yes

                  And then I thought that I did not recognize the former Atalef! No. What did he forget that he was a man and what to be a man is always better in disputes. sad (Joke.)
                  drinks
              3. Honest Citizen
                Honest Citizen 9 March 2020 18: 19
                0
                Tatyana.
                Spend 15 minutes of your time.
                1. primala
                  primala 9 March 2020 19: 32
                  +2
                  So what!? do you believe Platoshkin? And the fact that he "pereobulsya" does not bother?
                  Platoshkin marks for president. He is now trying to lobby insolent lies for fragile minds. Learn his biography. There is an answer ...
                  1. Honest Citizen
                    Honest Citizen 9 March 2020 19: 33
                    -1
                    At least he quite coherently indicated who is to blame and to whom it is beneficial, don't you find?
                    1. primala
                      primala 9 March 2020 19: 38
                      +3
                      Quote: Honest Citizen
                      At least he quite coherently indicated who is to blame and to whom it is beneficial, don't you find?

                      ==============
                      He is not telling the truth.
                      The main stake in the oil / gas industry is with the state.
                      And who the shareholders know. Unless they reported to Platoshkin.
                      1. Fan-fan
                        Fan-fan 9 March 2020 20: 49
                        -6
                        Do not worry about Platoshkin, he knows more than yours, and most importantly he reveals the truth to the people, which we will not hear from the TV.
                      2. Check
                        Check 10 March 2020 15: 11
                        +1
                        You have dropped critical thinking.
                  2. ccsr
                    ccsr 10 March 2020 17: 38
                    -1
                    Quote: primaala
                    Platoshkin marks for president.

                    Why is he worse than Putin, at least in terms of education and life experience?
                    Quote: primaala
                    Learn his biography. There is an answer ...

                    And what did you find there that distinguishes him from Putin's nominees who will succeed him?
                    Quote: primaala
                    So what!? do you believe Platoshkin?

                    Do you offer to believe Grudinin? Tell us who is the real presidential candidate on the left.
                2. RideMaster
                  RideMaster 10 March 2020 15: 43
                  0
                  Oh, this one was opened, if only to hype on the topic.
            2. minomoto
              minomoto 9 March 2020 14: 18
              +11
              What does Sechin have to do with it if the Saudis have been swamping the markets with their oil for several days in a row lowering the price by $ 7-8 below the world ones. Here everything is perfectly explained what is happening on the market.
              1. Overlock
                Overlock 9 March 2020 15: 22
                +5
                Quote: minomoto
                what is Sechin here if the Saudis have been filling up the markets with their oil for several days in a row

                Bloomberg sources say Saudi Arabia, if necessary ready to increase production and up to 12 million barrels per day.
                Cartel offered to its partners jointly reduce production an additional 1,5 million barrels per day, in addition to existing restrictions, to stop the fall in prices amid an outbreak of coronavirus. However Russia opposed this proposal, expressing readiness only to extend existing restrictions on oil production.
                https://www.ntv.ru/novosti/2302661/?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fyandex.ru%2Fnews
                1. Po-tzan
                  Po-tzan 9 March 2020 16: 29
                  0
                  Quote: Overlock
                  Bloomberg sources claim


                  At the same time, it seems, they agreed that Bloomberg is a Sharashkin cantor who is lying (they lied that our Buk shot down a Boeing in the Donbass). So it’s strange to hold them here as evidence.
                  1. atalef
                    atalef 9 March 2020 18: 05
                    -1
                    Quote: PO-tzan
                    At VROd’s the same, they agreed that Bloomberg is a Sharashkin cantor who lies

                    Bloomberg - Sharashkin office? belay

                    Bloomberg LP is one of two leading financial information providers for professional participants in financial markets.
                    The main product is Bloomberg Terminal, through which you can access current and historical prices on almost all world exchanges and many over-the-counter markets, the Bloomberg news feed and other leading media, the electronic bond trading system and other securities.
                    In addition to Bloomberg Terminal, an important product is the BloombergTV family of specialized television channels (via a separate channel for all major markets), Bloomberg Markets, Bloomberg BusinessWeek magazines, Bloomberg.com and BusinessWeek.com, mobile applications and BloombergRadio radio.

                    Although it definitely will not reach Kiselyov. laughing
                2. vadim dok
                  vadim dok 9 March 2020 16: 47
                  +7
                  The Saudis began to reduce the price of their oil by $ 6 ÷ 8 Already after Russia's refusal to reduce oil production by 1,5 million barrels per day, which was proposed by OPEC +!
              2. atalef
                atalef 9 March 2020 17: 49
                +4
                Quote: minomoto
                What does Sechin have to do with it if the Saudis have been swamping the markets with their oil for several days in a row lowering the price by $ 7-8 below the world ones.
                 Show / Hide text
                Everything is perfectly explained here, what is happening on the market

                Sechin was offered; he did not agree. climbing Saudi muzzle on the asphalt.
                Well, they showed him Kuzkin’s mother.
                had every right.
                1. Fan-fan
                  Fan-fan 9 March 2020 20: 56
                  +9
                  That's right, when Novak, on the orders of Sechin and Putin, disrupted negotiations with OPEC, the Saudis decided to teach Russia a lesson, took and increased oil production, and the price of oil collapsed. And if Sechin-Putin would agree with OPEC to reduce production, the price of oil would not fall so much. Without Bloomberg, it was clear to everyone, only the stubborn try not to notice it, but pass off this failure again as Putin’s cunning plan.
                  1. tihonmarine
                    tihonmarine 9 March 2020 21: 45
                    -2
                    Quote: Fan-Fan
                    That's right, when Novak, by order of Sechin and Putin, disrupted negotiations with OPEC, the Saudis decided to teach Russia a lesson, took and increased oil production, and so the oil price collapsed.

                    Saudis do not forget themselves, but also play on the side of the states. Trump's statement has already appeared that the fault is in the entire CA and Russia. Everything was predictable. Or ???
                  2. ccsr
                    ccsr 10 March 2020 17: 44
                    +3
                    Quote: Fan-Fan
                    and to give out this failure again as Putin’s cunning plan.

                    Have you ever wondered why the sale of gold to Great Britain took place recently, and how all our "patriots" shouted "Help, we sell gold!"
                    I think now it has become obvious to everyone that this was part of the plan, and due to the current growth of the dollar, the Central Bank will receive additional profit by selling off excess currency. You can only applaud Putin - even from the fall in oil prices, we will get some profit by selling foreign exchange reserves at the highest price.
              3. Oyo Sarkazmi
                Oyo Sarkazmi 9 March 2020 18: 24
                -2
                Quote: minomoto
                What does Sechin have to do with it if the Saudis have been swamping the markets with their oil for several days in a row lowering the price by $ 7-8 below the world ones.

                Norway and Mexico will be much worse - with their oil platforms. Russia has large domestic demand, denominated in rubles, which will not be affected by a fall in prices on the world market. The United States is definitely in the black, like Germany. But Saudi Arabia can fly. After all, she is at war, and the budget is already bursting.
                1. atalef
                  atalef 9 March 2020 18: 27
                  +5
                  Quote: Oo sarcasm
                  Norway and Mexico will be much worse - with their oil platforms

                  Norway, with their trillion in the oil fund?
                  Quote: Oo sarcasm
                  Russia's large domestic demand, denominated in rubles, which the fall in prices on the world market will not affect

                  will not affect demand 7 are you friends with your head at all 7
                  A fall in the population’s income by the automatic reducer reduces demand, a rise in price - automatically reduces demand, an increase in unemployment - automatically reduces demand --- do you think that this will not happen in Russia?
                  Quote: Oo sarcasm
                  But Saudi Arabia can fly. After all, she is at war, and the budget is already bursting.

                  belay
                  1. Oyo Sarkazmi
                    Oyo Sarkazmi 9 March 2020 18: 33
                    -5
                    What is the decline in income? Neftyanka - a little more than 2% of employees. They are lightly touched. Prices in the domestic market will not fall. Those who work outside the oil industry are not impoverished. The main replenishment of the budget has long been a sales tax, from each loaf of bread a rupee to the government, from a liter of gasoline - 10.
                    1. atalef
                      atalef 9 March 2020 18: 41
                      +1
                      Quote: Oo sarcasm
                      What is the decline in income? Neftyanka - a little more than 2% of employees.

                      And what is the budget made up of?
                      But there are no oil related allies?
                      Quote: Oo sarcasm
                      Prices in the domestic market will not fall.

                      of course - they will rise in price
                      Quote: Oo sarcasm
                      Those who work outside the oil industry are not impoverished.

                      why 7
                      salaries are the same. prices went up, with purchasing power of 7
                      A challenge for the second class.
                      Quote: Oo sarcasm
                      The main replenishment of the budget for a long time - sales tax,

                      returned to the loss of purchasing power
                      VAT on oil - or no
                      Quote: Oo sarcasm
                      per liter of gasoline - 10.

                      unclear . what if the whole world needs less gasoline during the crisis - what is the opposite in Russia?
                      Well, how do you draw conclusions with logic 7?
                      1. Oyo Sarkazmi
                        Oyo Sarkazmi 9 March 2020 19: 01
                        -8
                        Quote: atalef
                        of course - they will rise in price

                        You are a man from the USSR. Sellers only dream of how to fly into the pipe. The largest world chains close their hypermarkets in Russia - they did not pull our prices!
                        salaries are the same. prices went up that with the consumer

                        Let them rise in price first, then we will look at the merchants.
                        Now yes, imports will rise in price, for hamsters, for whom the iPhone is the highest meaning of life, "hard" times will come, but they eat Russian bacon! It's so easy to whine on a full stomach that everything around is deer-mo ...
                        what if the whole world needs less gasoline during the crisis - what is the opposite in Russia?

                        We always need it less - railways rule. And at the household level, gasoline consumption practically does not change either in the USA or in Russia.
                        VAT on oil - or no

                        At $ 60, the budget was in surplus. And even with a surplus - they did not master 1 trillion rubles last year. They give money, but they don’t take it. They can’t even steal what Putin brought the country to!
                      2. atalef
                        atalef 9 March 2020 20: 10
                        0
                        Quote: Oo sarcasm
                        You are a man from the USSR. Sellers only dream of how to fly into the pipe.

                        Nobody dreams, and the buyer does not dream to pay more. if it is possible less and the seller does not dream of sitting on a product without sales - therefore there will be a compromise ----- market.
                        Quote: Oo sarcasm
                        The largest world chains close their hypermarkets in Russia - they did not pull our prices!

                        The purchasing power of the population has fallen.
                        People buy cheaper and worse
                        Quote: Oo sarcasm
                        Let them rise in price first, then we will look at the merchants.

                        somehow you contradict yourself.
                        Quote: Oo sarcasm
                        Now yes, imports will rise in price, for hamsters, for whom the iPhone is the highest meaning of life, "hard" times will come, but they eat Russian bacon! It's so easy to whine on a full stomach that everything around is deer-mo ...

                        Do you live in a village?
                        Are you sure that import is only iPhone - and the whole zhrachka is fat?
                        Quote: Oo sarcasm
                        At $ 60, the budget was in surplus. And even with a surplus - they did not master 1 trillion rubles last year. They give money, but they don’t take it. They can’t even steal what Putin brought the country to!

                        delirium
                        money is not taken for a completely different reason - business activity at zero.
                        People do not want to get involved in business.
                      3. Mikhail m
                        Mikhail m 9 March 2020 19: 05
                        0
                        Quote: atalef
                        Prices in the domestic market will not fall.

                        of course - they will rise in price

                        Goods can go up, and prices can only rise or fall. Well, or rise and fall. hi
                      4. atalef
                        atalef 9 March 2020 20: 19
                        +2
                        Quote: Michael m
                        Quote: atalef
                        Prices in the domestic market will not fall.

                        of course - they will rise in price

                        Goods can go up, and prices can only rise or fall. Well, or rise and fall. hi

                        oil is oily.
                      5. vadimtt
                        vadimtt 9 March 2020 20: 39
                        +2
                        I generally lost the thread of dispute ...
                        There is an ancient rule of thumb - "oil rises in price - gasoline rises in price, oil gets cheaper - gasoline rises in price ...". Well, since transportation costs grow, all goods become more expensive. Thanks to Sechin, he also owes me for TNK-BP and Bashneft (but forgives, as usual laughing ), I won’t say anything about Yukos - it passed me by, but I suspect that everything was in his corporate raider style.
                      6. Mikhail m
                        Mikhail m 10 March 2020 19: 08
                        +2
                        Quote: atalef
                        oil is oily.

                        Glass, pewter, wooden. These words do not remind of anything?
                2. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 9 March 2020 21: 47
                  0
                  Quote: Oo sarcasm
                  Norway and Mexico will be much worse - with their oil platforms.

                  Well, nothing worries about Norway, but who cares about Mexico?
                3. Sardanapalus
                  Sardanapalus 10 March 2020 02: 36
                  +4
                  The Saudi stabilization fund is an analogue of our 700 lard in bucks. The population is 25 million. Our kolyshek 100 lard with a penny. The population is 145 million.
            3. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 9 March 2020 21: 41
              -2
              Quote: atalef
              I would advise you together with the hanging ears of the State Department and the Zionists - to open your eyes and see Sechin's ears.

              Big ears, just like an elephant.
          2. Minipig79
            Minipig79 9 March 2020 13: 33
            +2
            To understand what you are writing about a little, take an interest in the volume of income from oil sales in the USSR to Brezhnev, the USSR from Brezhnev and the current Russian Federation. And do not write nonsense.
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 9 March 2020 13: 48
              +2
              The USSR invested a lot of money to sell oil on the world market in Soviet oil production, but it did not work out with a return on the financial effect because of the SA in collusion with the USA against the USSR.
              Therefore do not tell me that SA in collusion with the USA did not strike at the economy of the USSR and the political system of the countries of the socialist camp!
              I remember how Humpbacked asked the West for a loan from the West, primarily from the USA, but the Americans squeezed the promised loans for the USSR.
              1. Minipig79
                Minipig79 9 March 2020 14: 30
                +1
                Please tell me, what was the important factor for foreign and domestic policy for oil prices, say, for Khrushchev?) At the same time announce the share of oil in the pie of GDP under Khrushchev.
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 9 March 2020 14: 40
                  +1
                  And where does Khrushchev and the times of Khrushchev?
                  1. Minipig79
                    Minipig79 9 March 2020 16: 01
                    +8
                    You wrote above: the United States with the Saudis lowered oil prices down and the Soviet economy rolled down. So, not for any general secretary of the USSR, the price of oil had a significant role. With the developed export of products, goods (rather than raw materials) - spit from a high bell tower on stock games with the price of oil.
                    1. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 9 March 2020 16: 32
                      -2
                      Quote: Minipig79
                      With the developed export of products, goods (rather than raw materials) - spit from a high bell tower on stock games with the price of oil.

                      However, you do not personally take into account one thing. Namely.

                      Yes what export markets in CAPSTRANES for the USSR, except for raw materials in the form of oil and gas, were for the USSR, in fact, CLOSED!
                      Here is the Soviet leadership for the purchase of imports from kapstran and chased after receiving primarily American currency due to the export of raw materials to Western Europe - oil and gas. And it began not so much with the Khrushchev maize, but later.
                      1. Minipig79
                        Minipig79 9 March 2020 16: 43
                        +5
                        Khrushchev actually did not build the country's wealth on the oil trade. Comrade Brezhnev wanted to cut down easy money, as I understand it, after the crisis of 73.
                        And earning currency was not previously oil. Engineering, chemistry, etc.
                      2. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 9 March 2020 17: 15
                        -1
                        Quote: Minipig79
                        Khrushchev actually did not build the country's wealth on the oil trade. Comrade Brezhnev wanted to cut down easy money, as I understand it, after the crisis of 73.
                        And earning currency was not previously oil. Engineering, chemistry, etc.

                        Finally, an understanding of the situation has come to you!

                        Well, why did you then cling to me to troll me, if I tell you the same thing ?!
                        Statistical numbers are one thing!
                        LOST OPPORTUNITIES in the economy are completely different! And their "your" "statistics", I believe, does not take into account, since you do not have data on this issue either.
                2. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 9 March 2020 21: 49
                  -2
                  Quote: Minipig79
                  Please tell me, what was the most important factor for foreign and domestic policy for oil prices, say, for Khrushchev?

                  Khrushchev was worried about corn and how to beat Stalin.
                  1. Minipig79
                    Minipig79 9 March 2020 22: 21
                    +4
                    Nothing more? Oh how. And I heard that he made rockets invent and rivet new ones. Some Khrushchev’s massively built and handed out free of charge. For all that, he overcame the bad.
                    1. tihonmarine
                      tihonmarine 9 March 2020 22: 26
                      -1
                      Quote: Minipig79
                      Nothing more? Oh how. And I heard that he made rockets invent and rivet new ones. Some Khrushchev’s massively built and handed out free of charge. For all that, he overcame the bad.

                      Yes, he was a goat Nikita Khrushchev.
              2. atalef
                atalef 9 March 2020 17: 51
                -1
                Quote: Tatiana
                Therefore, do not tell me that the SA, in collusion with the United States, did not strike a blow at the economy of the USSR and the political system of the countries of the socialist camp!

                Of course they did, but what's the problem?
                The USSR and the socialist camp tried to bend the United States. USA with its allies of the USSR and social. camp.
                They won, Tatyana.
                That's all.
                1. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 9 March 2020 21: 53
                  -1
                  Quote: atalef
                  The USSR and the socialist camp tried to bend the United States. USA with its allies of the USSR and social. camp.

                  The socialist camp defended itself, but the United States, as always, crap, for them socialism was like a "hook" in the stomach. Beginning with 1848. Read, you will understand.
            2. knn54
              knn54 9 March 2020 14: 05
              +1
              Riyadh has almost always acted in the interests of the United States.
              Quite rightly, now the Yankees and Great Britain will buy oil at low prices, replenishing strategic reserves.
              The main argument in favor of what the author said is that KSA sells oil ONLY for dollars.
              1. YOUR
                YOUR 9 March 2020 14: 14
                +12
                Madhouse. You at least tracked when and what happened. This is a response to the fact that Russia on 6.03 did not sign an agreement on limiting oil production. The previous contract ended on 01.03. It was possible to predict such an answer, only there is someone or hoped for arap to slip through. Jumped, or rather jumped. Our budget is designed for at least $ 40 per barrel, at 25 it will come ... I don’t want to think what.
                1. Kitty77
                  Kitty77 9 March 2020 14: 54
                  +5
                  Now we will "fight" with the Saud, who has a stronger butt and who blinks faster, the oil price of $ 30 per barrel is unprofitable for any oil-producing country and not a single oil corporation, here is geopolitics and a lot of everything is mixed up. Who has a wallet (stocks) thicker and below the "pain" threshold for price
                  1. Po-tzan
                    Po-tzan 9 March 2020 16: 37
                    +2
                    Quote: Pussycat77
                    Now we will "fight" with the Saud, who has a stronger butt and who blinks faster, the oil price of $ 30 per barrel is unprofitable for any oil-producing country and not a single oil corporation


                    The cost of oil production in Russia is $ 28 and in Saudi Arabia $ 4. Those. if the Saudis will lower the oil to $ 28, then they will continue to trade with huge profits while we work at zero, practically giving Europe oil at cost. So make a conclusion who has a stronger butt and who blinks faster.
                    1. Kamikaze19
                      Kamikaze19 9 March 2020 17: 19
                      +4
                      [quote] [/ quote] do not carry nonsense, what are you talking about? From 28 to 1.5 $ depending on the company and the region. 3 it is rather in Norway on the shelf of the sea.
                      1. Po-tzan
                        Po-tzan 9 March 2020 17: 30
                        +2
                        Quote: Kamikadze19
                        do not carry nonsense, what 28 ye about what? From 1.5 to 3 $ depending on the company and the region. 28 it is rather in Norway on the shelf of the sea.


                        https://myfin.by/wiki/term/sebestoimost-dobychi-nefti
                    2. ccsr
                      ccsr 9 March 2020 17: 20
                      +3
                      Quote: PO-tzan
                      The cost of oil production in Russia is $ 28 and in Saudi Arabia $ 4. Those. if the Saudis will lower the oil to $ 28, then they will continue to trade with huge profits while we work at zero, practically giving Europe oil at cost.

                      First, Russia and Saudi Arabia are not the only players in this market, and their reaction should be taken into account.
                      Secondly, the United States has invested a lot of money in shale oil, and for them it will generally be a blow below the belt, so it is still unknown who they will give in the eye for this feint with oil.
                      And thirdly, even if we go to zero, this is not a reason to panic, because we will hold out on old stocks for several years, but we do not know what other countries will do, especially taking into account the drone attack on Saudi refineries ... Do you think Iran will silently watch the antics of the Saudis?
                      So it is still unknown what the consequences will be for the whole world, especially for those who do not have an economy like ours, where not everything depends on the price of oil - for example, agricultural products and weapons are unlikely to drop much.
                      1. Cottodraton
                        Cottodraton 9 March 2020 17: 50
                        +5
                        Money in the USA is a conditional concept. They always have time to print them and again push their duty back ... we are another matter - playing with the sharpie with his own card ...
                      2. ccsr
                        ccsr 9 March 2020 18: 03
                        -2
                        Quote: Cottodraton
                        Money in the USA is a conditional concept. They always have time to print them and again push their duty back ... we are another matter - playing with the sharpie with his own card ...

                        I think that over the past few years, Putin has been preparing the way out of the game with a sharpie, and as I understand it, it was the last action that showed that we were leaving this pool, where the players decided to play along with the Americans. I think that this is a significant event for us - the coronavirus to help us!
                      3. atalef
                        atalef 9 March 2020 18: 13
                        0
                        Quote: ccsr
                        but we don’t know what the rest of the countries will do, especially considering the drone attack on the Saudi refineries. Do you think Iran will silently look at the tricks of the Saudis?

                        Are you afraid of answers?
                        Quote: ccsr
                        So it is still unknown what the consequences will be for the whole world, especially for those who do not have such an economy as ours

                        Those who do not have an economy like yours will enjoy cheaper gasoline
                        Quote: ccsr
                        for example, agricultural products and weapons are unlikely to drop much in price.

                        But agriculture and weapons bring a lot of money to the budget?
                      4. ccsr
                        ccsr 10 March 2020 17: 21
                        0
                        Quote: atalef
                        Those who do not have an economy like yours will enjoy cheaper gasoline

                        Let them enjoy - this is a temporary gift, but let them not count on a long freebie, especially if the shale mining dies.
                        Quote: atalef
                        But agriculture and weapons bring a lot of money to the budget?

                        A lot, but this is not even the point, but the fact that we are self-sufficient and militarily independent, and this is the guarantee of our way out of the situation with less losses.
                  2. YOUR
                    YOUR 10 March 2020 04: 54
                    +3
                    Yes, no one will butt. They will run on a half-bent contract, and they will become a pose.
                    So maybe a stupid forecast, but as if based on the experience of the past 20 years. Until April 22, nothing will happen, the country means, and even until May 1. They will restrain the growth of prices for everything. As soon as the vote passes, holidays will come with them people will return, some with swollen mug, some with country corns. And there will be a surprise.
                2. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 9 March 2020 21: 54
                  0
                  Quote: YOUR
                  Jumped, or rather jumped.

                  But it was predictable. Really did not notice.
                  1. YOUR
                    YOUR 10 March 2020 04: 56
                    +1
                    I saw from my bell tower, but even the percentage of the vote does not depend on me, not to mention such things.
              2. vadim dok
                vadim dok 9 March 2020 16: 50
                0
                In the US, all repositories, not just strategic ones, are CROFILLED!
                1. vargo
                  vargo 9 March 2020 17: 58
                  0
                  I may not understand what, but how do you see yourself overflowing (!) Oil storage?
                  1. tihonmarine
                    tihonmarine 9 March 2020 22: 32
                    -3
                    Quote: vargo
                    I may not understand what, but how do you see yourself overflowing (!) Oil storage?

                    Yes, at least take a ticket and take an excursion to Alaska, and there you will see.
                2. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 9 March 2020 21: 55
                  -2
                  Quote: vadim dok
                  In the US, all repositories, not just strategic ones, are CROFILLED!

                  And how long.
                3. YOUR
                  YOUR 10 March 2020 05: 02
                  -1
                  The USA is in third place in oil production.
                  Saudi Arabia - 585,7 million tons
                  Russia - 554 million tons
                  USA - 543 million tons
                  Yes, they buy it in huge volumes.
                  So draw conclusions. We mine and sell, they mine and buy no less.
                4. Cottodraton
                  Cottodraton 10 March 2020 10: 09
                  0
                  FSE PRAPALA! Again!!
              3. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 9 March 2020 22: 30
                -1
                Quote: knn54
                Riyadh has almost always acted in the interests of the United States.
                Quite rightly, now the Yankees and Great Britain will buy oil at low prices, replenishing strategic reserves.
                The main argument in favor of what the author said is that KSA sells oil ONLY for dollars.

                And what is not clear here, everything is clear as "God's day". Someone in "sugar", and someone in "shit". And we all know about both sugar and shit, but some people think that shit is sugar.
          3. Rome
            Rome 9 March 2020 14: 28
            -9
            Come on panic ... the usual oriental bazaar! laughing
            To Putin: we will ruin you, but we’ll finally give oil negative
            Russian Federation to the Saudis: and we do not care, see that in your wallet does not become empty tongue

            They will break a little ponty in front of each other and again they will be friends against the slate drinks
            If shale survives at all
            1. Kitty77
              Kitty77 9 March 2020 14: 56
              +3
              This is understandable (even to trolls and provocateurs), but they have such work
            2. Aviator_
              Aviator_ 9 March 2020 15: 02
              +6
              Now I will not be surprised if the Hussites have a large batch of heavy weapons that will reduce oil production in the SA, as it has already been once.
            3. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 9 March 2020 22: 38
              -2
              Quote: Eroma

              Come on panic ... the usual oriental bazaar!

              You have confused the "bazaar" and Saudi Arabia. It's a shame.
            4. sleeve
              sleeve 10 March 2020 05: 44
              0
              Poor American shale oil workers. Although ... Right now the dough will be printed, credited, then they will write off everything. The rules in the game are only for honest.
          4. smart ass
            smart ass 9 March 2020 15: 31
            +9
            Only now we had 30 years to come up with countermeasures and not step on the rake a second time
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 9 March 2020 22: 39
              -1
              Quote: Clever man

              Only now we had 30 years to come up with countermeasures and not step on the rake a second time

              Sorry, not 30, but 29 years old.
      2. Trotil42
        Trotil42 9 March 2020 18: 49
        +8
        They only aimed at the jerk .. and here again ... and again liquid... vile Saudis lowered the price ... damned Americans are extracting oil (very vile on their part ... without asking us ... without agreement) .. the Chinese are generally insolent .. they get the virus and cool ... and in general the interests of Russia oil production in other countries does not answer at all ... fact ... masons .. Americans .. world conspiracy ..
        1. sleeve
          sleeve 10 March 2020 05: 45
          +1
          Wow ... The text is great. That would be so learned ...
    2. Pardus
      Pardus 9 March 2020 12: 55
      +25
      Again, gas prices in the country will rise ... Oil is getting more expensive - the price of gas in Russia rises. Oil is getting cheaper - gas prices are rising again ... Paradox ...
      1. YOUR
        YOUR 9 March 2020 14: 17
        +7
        Apparently you do not have a car, otherwise you would have noticed that gasoline and diesel fuel are getting more expensive every month. So for 2019 they have risen in price by more than 10%. As of 01.01.2019, the 92nd gasoline cost 40 rubles, as of 01.01.2020 44.12 rubles. For this year, almost a ruble has risen.
        1. Rzzz
          Rzzz 9 March 2020 16: 08
          0
          Now at Moscow gas stations the 92nd for 42-43 rubles.
        2. Pardus
          Pardus 9 March 2020 16: 22
          +4
          Quote: YOUR
          Apparently you don’t have a car

          I sold my car exactly a year ago. Money urgently needed.
          Quote: YOUR
          noticed that gasoline and diesel fuel rise in price monthly

          Exactly what I’m talking about. Regardless of the price of oil, gasoline in Russia is constantly getting more expensive ...
        3. smart ass
          smart ass 9 March 2020 16: 42
          +4
          I have a car, but I think the point of remembering gas prices is useless, for what? If it has risen in price you will not refuel ??
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 9 March 2020 22: 40
        -3
        Quote: Pardus
        Paradox.

        Capitalism.
      3. sleeve
        sleeve 10 March 2020 05: 47
        0
        These are our favorite entrepreneurs. They are probably not literate and did not read the Bible ... where about greed.
    3. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 9 March 2020 12: 57
      +1
      Oh, now the adherents of the sect "Give more sanctions" will run in and start to drive you into the "minus"!) laughing
      1. Whalebone
        Whalebone 9 March 2020 13: 18
        +12
        I have already left 3 times in "minus". Not scary. It is easy and pleasant to tell the truth. And most importantly, the soul does not hurt.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 9 March 2020 22: 43
          -2
          Quote: Whalebone
          It’s easy and pleasant to speak the truth. And most importantly, the soul does not hurt.

          A big plus, but adherents will not understand you.
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 9 March 2020 23: 07
            -2
            Quote: tihonmarine
            Quote: Whalebone
            It’s easy and pleasant to speak the truth. And most importantly, the soul does not hurt.

            A big plus, but adherents will not understand you.

            Golden grove dissuaded ... RIP request
      2. Whalebone
        Whalebone 9 March 2020 14: 39
        +11
        Thanks. It's already minus 3000. “Heavyweights” have pulled up. It is important for them that the site remains marginal.
      3. smart ass
        smart ass 9 March 2020 15: 32
        +2
        And every day they are less and less
    4. Secretbrain
      Secretbrain 9 March 2020 13: 24
      -2
      I'm just wondering, do you think people are stupid or are you judging by yourself?
      Again Putin outplayed everyone?

      Hospada, well, what does Putin have to do with this, do you know anyone else in the country?
      Who does not have dollars in a zashashnik, you again were thrown on grandmas. Already 20 percent.

      Tse the market my friend and democracy, and not mossy communism, like the whole country was not in 93?
      You can already shout "Hurray", it's time.

      It was necessary to scream in the 93rd cheer, but wait a minute, they shouted.
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        1. Kitty77
          Kitty77 9 March 2020 13: 38
          -1
          The Saudis have fallen off the market, and Putin is to blame? What do you think needed to be done?
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          2. LifeIsGood
            LifeIsGood 9 March 2020 14: 01
            0
            They will probably bend down, kneel down and spread their legs wider ... It’s Putin who has fallen off prices, Putin is to blame for everything ... Oh no ... it’s to blame for the oligarch who, by the way, is also losing ... Or not !!! The head of Rosneft in person! He sleeps right and sees a collapse in oil prices !!! It’s so cool to get less profit, or even take a negative balance!
            In short, those people always have a culprit and this is our government ... oligarchy and blah blah blah ....
            1. den3080
              den3080 9 March 2020 15: 04
              +4
              Quote: LifeIsGood
              They will probably bend down, kneel down and spread their legs wider ... It’s Putin who has fallen off prices, Putin is to blame for everything ... Oh no ... it’s to blame for the oligarch who, by the way, is also losing ... Or not !!! The head of Rosneft in person! He sleeps right and sees a collapse in oil prices !!! It’s so cool to get less profit, or even take a negative balance!
              In short, those people always have a culprit and this is our government ... oligarchy and blah blah blah ....

              I think that after all, it was precisely the GDP and its immediate environment that miscalculated.
              dizziness from successes, so to speak, in the foreign policy arena and a record volume of the NWF, which is actually only 150 billion dollars. and burns very quickly - puff and no.
              the population of Russia will be blown away, as usual.
              and how it will be blown off is approximately clear:
              1. inflation of 6-8-10% with 0 revenue growth.
              2. raising the CBR refinancing rate by 2-3-5 percentage points - in and of itself - grants to almost any small private investment in something serious that produces a product.
              3. and as a consequence of paragraph 2 - raising mortgage rates.
              4. drop in home sales, respectively, paragraph 3
              5. Bacchanalia of exchange rates.
              6. The decline in imports, as a result of the fall of the ruble and the real purchasing power of the population.
              In general, ayyahiks can happen specific.
              Got game like.
              I will be very glad if everything that I wrote above turns out to be my personal "crazy nonsense."
              And one more sadness - Bin Salman ibn Saud will not go to Moscow (put up) anymore. Not Erdogan, tea. winked
              1. v.biseroff
                v.biseroff 11 March 2020 00: 57
                0
                If your opponent in a chess game sacrificed an elephant to a royal pawn in the very opening of the meeting, then there are two options - either he fights or he plans something insidious. Therefore, I wouldn’t draw any conclusions at all and would calmly wait for the next moves, it’s interesting so! You can still roll back the situation in May, if that ... Up to Vienna, the path is not far for Novak, they will scratch out a new agreement and the whole thing is in the hat!
            2. MONEY
              MONEY 9 March 2020 15: 38
              +2
              Stop !! Do not make emotions !! There is a simple logic. Putin is the leader of the country. He has a managerial staff consisting of ,, specialists, Their job is to ensure security and stable development of the country in all aspects !! Military, economic, political , social, etc. We have partners who wish us great good and happiness, surrounded by these partners, the work of Putin and his team consists in miscalculating all possible risks and negatives, for one or another actions that they, as a power, perform, as they say, in the interests of Russian arode !! But !!! Over a quarter of a century, we are seeing the opposite !! Complete failures, in all directions. The economic, political and all the others described above. Positive moments, very ... very ... very few !! If you say that, Putin didn’t foresee it ... he thought ... he wanted to ... and everything turned out differently. He can’t keep track of everything !! Question. Why it turned out differently ?? Why can not ?? The management team is not that ?? Okay. Take these, take others, more intelligent and worthy, not spoiled yet not steeped in corruption. No !! Do not change, faces. One and the same !! Too much, higher but otherwise, over a quarter of a century ... Conclusion. There is a person in power who is incompetent, and accordingly his team is the same. But ... this is nonsense! It’s clear even to a fool. Accordingly, other conclusions suggest themselves. Betrayal ... Yes !! Proof ? So here is an example for this moment. The dollar has grown. Oil has fallen. In the past, it ruined the economy of the USSR. More than once it hit the cumpol of the economy of the current Russian Federation. The oil and gas industry is the Achilles heel that Russia will be hit by ,, constantly !! Lesson on the face. But no. Run on the same rake. (This is at least strange !!) it is clear even to the economist, you need ,, slazit with oil and gas igly.Razvivat ekonomiku.U his Russian mother for all this est.Nuzhno only to properly dispose of waste and not, as now today delaetsya.No a quarter century for nothing does not. A healthy economy is a healthy society. It is a fact. At the top of the Russian Federation, they understand this well, but judging by this, they don’t need !!! Therefore, to say that, “Good king, bad boyars, it’s not serious !!” Most likely, what kind of king -so and boyars !! My verdict is to blame !!!!!
              1. LifeIsGood
                LifeIsGood 9 March 2020 20: 19
                +2
                Okay, let's drop emotions. I agree with you here (you just boil over the statements of people who don't even want to think about it, but all at once "everything is gone, Putin is guilty of everything! This is a betrayal, the government is corrupt and bought long ago and further in the same spirit ... so it escaped.) But as you said, leave the emotions and let's think logically.

                Question: Why did oil prices collapse?
                Answer: As we are assured here, Russia did not agree to the OPEC + deal. Although why right now and so much ... Traders that before could not start buying oil at lower prices? But okay ... let Russia be to blame.
                This begs the question: Why didn’t Russia make a deal?
                Answer: Yes, quite simple! I didn't want to lose stupidly the sales market !!!! Here many shout about "a cunning plan" or "a profane bluff" but that's not how it is. They demanded that Russia cut oil production, but only OPEC countries would cut this production, and a whole bunch of others all to one place. As a result, we reduce production, and whoever increases it. Are we going to reduce the oil industry in general?

                There is no fault of the government, Putin, conspiracy or betrayal.
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                2. Liam
                  Liam 9 March 2020 20: 25
                  +2
                  Quote: LifeIsGood
                  Okay let's throw away the emotions

                  Quote: LifeIsGood
                  As a result, we are reducing production,

                  How do you comment on this:
                  MOSCOW, Jan 3 - RIA News. Last year, Russia set a record for oil production for the entire post-Soviet period, Bloomberg reports.
                  According to the agency, in 2019, 560,2 million tons of oil was produced at Russian fields, which is equivalent to 11,25 million barrels per day. At the same time, in a record 1987, the country produced 11,416 million barrels per day.

                  What a strange cut
                  1. Victor N
                    Victor N 10 March 2020 09: 06
                    0
                    Russia's share in the oil market was declining. And the US share was growing.
                  2. LifeIsGood
                    LifeIsGood 10 March 2020 11: 29
                    0
                    No way ... this message has nothing to do with this topic.
                    1. Liam
                      Liam 10 March 2020 12: 39
                      -3
                      Quote: LifeIsGood
                      No way ... this message has nothing to do with this topic.

                      It has the most direct. Since 2016, Russia has been cutting production, but in reality, it has been increasing. It simply deceived OPEC
                3. atalef
                  atalef 9 March 2020 20: 28
                  +2
                  Quote: LifeIsGood
                  As we are assured here, Russia did not agree to the OPEC + deal. Although why right now and so much ...

                  no - prices collapsed due to the coronovirus in China and its distribution around the world (and the panic associated with it) - and as a result, a slowdown in business activity and, of course, a decrease in oil consumption
                  Quote: LifeIsGood
                  Traders who previously could not start buying oil at lower prices?

                  i.e.? the oil market - it is spot. if you understand - there are momentary sales or futures - there is no other
                  Quote: LifeIsGood
                  But okay ... let Russia be to blame

                  Russia is to blame for not agreeing to the OPEC proposal to reduce oil production, provoked an oversupply and, as a result, revenge on Saudi and OPEC.
                  Quote: LifeIsGood
                  This begs the question: Why didn’t Russia make a deal?

                  she was sure that shale oil would occupy this niche, and that prices wouldn’t collapse so much, and of course that the Saudis and OPEC would die and sit quietly in a corner
                  Quote: LifeIsGood
                  DO NOT want to lose stupidly the sales market !!!! Here many shout about "a cunning plan" or "a profane bluff" but that's not how it is.

                  there is a fair grain in it, but the market could not be lost - it has already contracted.
                  As a result, this market will be scored by Saudi Arabia, dumping - in retaliation.
                  Sechin had to figure out the risks before getting into the bottle
                4. MONEY
                  MONEY 10 March 2020 14: 24
                  +1
                  Sorry. This situation is one of many that were, and will be in the future, if the Russian Federation does not come down from the raw material needle on which it is already sitting, sorry, almost half a century !! Here the question must be posed ambiguously, based on this situations, and of many !! Well, you must admit, mother Russia, this is the richest country in the world, in principle !! If you properly arrange the domestic economy, then these bites of guardianship, and any other evil spirits, will be no worse than a mosquito !! The cost of the ruble should be It is supported not only by the cost of hydrocarbons, but also by other economic capacities. it’s possible. It’s only necessary to correctly lay out the cards, but for some reason our gentlemen’s managers do not want to sort them out correctly !! So much money goes for the “hill”, and is dampened into other countries ’economies, which then work against us !! our leader doesn’t know all this ?? I’m sure it’s more than. For a quarter of a century there’s only calls for, let's return money back to the country !! Please ... What is it ?? !! It would be if I’m with a thief, asked me to return what he stole ... ,, please, faithful ... This is not a serious approach !! The algorithm is simple. The thief should sit in t Either. If his money is bloody, destroyed !! (sorry for radicalism. But history tells us that our country stands on strong feet when the leaders clearly work for the country and for the people. This is when they are constantly pressed !! It's cruel .. . mercilessly! For you need to remember that all their actions that they are now doing, except for the exploitation and destruction of man, and for their enrichment due to this, are no longer directed at anything !! A bunch of facts !!) So, having opportunities and resources, and not using them for the benefit of their ordinary people, but for the benefit of a foreign state, a foreign people, a foreign economy, what is it like not betrayal ?? Let’s ask ourselves such questions. If a leader = doesn’t know all this = then why does the country need such a dunno leader ?? !! (but this is hardly, as we understand) Most likely = knows = but it can’t change. Conclusion — why does the country need such a low-power leader who cannot make the state apparatus work correctly? And most likely = he knows, and he can = but doesn’t want to please himself and others like him !! , ambush ,, You know ... in 2014 I believed him ... GDP. Now I am disappointed in him everywhere ... I do not believe ...
          3. New Year day
            New Year day 9 March 2020 14: 12
            +11
            Quote: Pussycat77
            Saudis collapse the market

            who told you that? Quite the opposite - Sechin wanted to show "Kuzkin's mother"
            1. krillon
              krillon 9 March 2020 20: 30
              +2
              Yes? But Trump for some reason indicates that Saudi Arabia and Russia are collapsing the market.
          4. Aviator_
            Aviator_ 9 March 2020 15: 05
            +1
            Flush the Hussites with offensive weapons.
          5. Petio
            Petio 9 March 2020 19: 06
            0
            Or maybe honey mushrooms will fly drones at Saudi oil enterprises
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 9 March 2020 22: 47
        -2
        Quote: SecretBrain
        It was necessary to scream in the 93rd cheer, but wait a minute, they shouted.

        Wrong, it was necessary to scream until December 1991. And the question is, what did you shout then, or did you look at Kashpirovsky?
    5. Malyuta
      Malyuta 9 March 2020 14: 44
      +3
      Quote: Whalebone
      Has Putin outplayed everyone again? Those who do not have dollars in the storehouse, you were again thrown at the grandmother. Already 20 percent. Such is the Glavsterkh opupenny geopolitician. You can already shout "Hurray", it's time.

      That's right, at first the especially gifted threw OPEC + and began to increase production, the Saudis quickly responded and agreed with Kuwait on oil production in the disputed territories and made a statement that they could offer oil at the market at 8-10 dollars / bar.
      So, someone very "smart" and "great" will soon finish playing "cellos" .....
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 9 March 2020 14: 53
        -2
        Quote: Malyuta
        someone very "smart" and "great" will soon finish playing "cellos" ...

        How soon, can you indicate? Or "la-la" again?
        1. Fan-fan
          Fan-fan 9 March 2020 21: 16
          -1
          We can. Until the next election in 2024.
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 9 March 2020 21: 22
            -2
            Quote: Fan-Fan
            We can. Until the next election in 2024

            Are you predicting a revolution? Funny what
      2. Cottodraton
        Cottodraton 9 March 2020 17: 57
        +2
        What, then, for the short period of the last fall in prices, did the CA budget miss as much as 400 billion? There they even cut nishtyaks from social programs ... So what are there 8 bucks ... in SA and Kuwait they have long been accustomed to a well-fed and sweet life ... they are unlikely to keep oil prices low for a long time
        1. atalef
          atalef 9 March 2020 18: 02
          +4
          Quote: Cottodraton
          What, then, for the short period of the last fall in prices, did the CA budget miss as much as 400 billion? There they even cut nishtyaks from social programs ... So what are there 8 bucks ... in SA and Kuwait they have long been accustomed to a well-fed and sweet life ... they are unlikely to keep oil prices low for a long time

          while the fat dries, the thin one dies.
          You decided pisyunami with SA and Kuwait (grandmother) to measure? tear your pants.
          1. Fan-fan
            Fan-fan 9 March 2020 21: 19
            +1
            Unfortunately, the pants will be torn among the people of the Russian Federation, but our oligarchs will not be impoverished, in any case it’s how to give it to drink.
            1. Victor N
              Victor N 10 March 2020 09: 16
              0
              Stay away from the oligarchs (?), Since they will give you such a nightmare. Or think about them in the toilet - it helps ... And then you will make yourself a "manechka".
          2. Shraik
            Shraik 9 March 2020 23: 54
            +2
            Compare the gold reserves of Saudi Arabia and Russia. Who is thicker there?

            KSA:
            February 2015 - $ 725,0 billion
            February 2020 - $ 490,5 billion

            February 2015 - 323 tons of gold
            February 2020 - 323 tons of gold

            ...

            Russia:
            March 2015 - $ 351,7 billion
            March 2020 - $ 570,4 billion

            March 2015 - 1207,0 tons of gold
            March 2020 - 2271,2 tons of gold
            1. Stone
              Stone 10 March 2020 06: 31
              +1
              Russia: as of January 1, 2020, 146 people.
              Saudi Arabia - 27 345 986 people, of which 30% are immigrants.
              1. Cottodraton
                Cottodraton 10 March 2020 09: 55
                0
                There is still need for ISIS and to support, but pay mercenaries to protect from the Hussites. Well, to cajole the Yankees, buying from them weapons for 100 lard
              2. ccsr
                ccsr 10 March 2020 17: 55
                -2
                Quote: Steen
                Russia: as of January 1, 2020, 146 people.
                Saudi Arabia - 27 345 986 people, of which 30% are immigrants.

                What, besides oil, does Saudi Arabia produce for sale on the domestic and foreign markets? And foreign exchange reserves are easy to consume when the country imports everything, including workers, from abroad - this is clearly seen in the fall of Ancient Rome.
              3. v.biseroff
                v.biseroff 11 March 2020 01: 22
                +1
                146 million people will find a way to live, it has happened even worse, but that the Saudis will still find the question in the sands!
          3. Cottodraton
            Cottodraton 10 March 2020 10: 00
            -1
            They do not have so many. Especially if you look at the costs ...
            All these "miracles of ergonomics", such as Dubai, etc., consume a lot of money
            1. Stone
              Stone 10 March 2020 10: 49
              -1
              Dubai is the UAE. And once this emirate has been touched, I will share the following fact: at present, oil and natural gas revenues form less than 6% of the gross domestic product of the emirate of Dubai.
              1. Cottodraton
                Cottodraton 10 March 2020 18: 01
                -1
                Fairy tales of the Viennese forest
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 9 March 2020 22: 50
        -1
        Quote: Malyuta
        So, someone very "smart" and "great" will soon finish playing "cellos" ..

        You need to play in your own fields, but not in the OPEC fields.
    6. SSR
      SSR 9 March 2020 14: 47
      +3
      Quote: Whalebone
      Again Putin outplayed everyone? Who does not have dollars in a zashashnik, you again were thrown on grandmothers.

      Sterkh Sterkh, where the crank to woodpeckers hollowing every chip.
      I really hope that our team was preparing for this and will take the next step in moving away from the dollar and the dependence of black gold prices in dollars.
      A country like Russia should not dangle like a nail in a glass, from all sorts of "Aramko" wishes.
      Saudi Arabia should be in a fever not from the actions of the Russian Federation but, for example, from the actions of Iran, otherwise it turns out that a camel that has landed on a well with oil can "suck" Russia, the country that was the first to conquer space, for example.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 9 March 2020 22: 54
        0
        Quote: SSR
        Saudi Arabia should be in a fever not from the actions of the Russian Federation but, for example, from the actions of Iran, otherwise it turns out that a camel that has landed on a well with oil can "suck" Russia, the country that was the first to conquer space, for example.

        Sorry, but so far the man on the camel lives much better than the man who launched the First Sputnik into space. And until now, the "camel man" is respected everywhere, maybe I'm wrong ???
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 9 March 2020 23: 16
          -1
          Quote: tihonmarine
          while a man on a camel lives many times better than a man who launched the First Sputnik into space

          This is not true. You mentioned the camel in vain laughing

          Those who live well in Saudi and other Emirates have not been suitable for a camel for several generations. Those who are "on a camel" live there ... not really, I will say so.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 9 March 2020 23: 28
            -1
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            Those who live well in Saudi and other Emirates have not come to a camel for several generations.

            The camel in Saudi Arabi is the most revered animal and for it, rich people pay hundreds of thousands of dollars.
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 9 March 2020 23: 34
              -1
              Quote: tihonmarine
              Camel in saudi arabi the most revered animal

              The most revered animals there are an expensive car and a top-end mobile phone. If there is a queue of "people in white coats" - for sure, the new mobile phone was "thrown away".
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 9 March 2020 23: 37
                -2
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                The most revered animals there are an expensive car and a top mobile phone.

                This is in Russia, but the Arabs do not rush to a posh car like us.
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 9 March 2020 23: 42
                  -1
                  Quote: tihonmarine
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  The most revered animals there are an expensive car and a top mobile phone.

                  This is in Russia, but the Arabs do not rush to a posh car like us.

                  This is a "sketch from nature", buddy ... I was there for work, quite often and for quite a long time.

                  The Arabs on these cars, even on their roads (and the roads there are parasik!) Manage to fight ... I read obituaries in the newspapers, which they put in the hotel room - laughing loudly: "a citizen of the Emirates, whom we will call M. .. . flew over the dividing line and crashed into an oncoming car ... "

                  The laugh is that the "dividing" in that place in Abu Dhabi is a lawn 5 meters wide, raised half a meter above the road, with a fence on top. Non-acid palms grow on the lawn laughing

                  Think about it - what kind of camels there are to the raven ... you won’t be so jumpy on it laughing
                  1. tihonmarine
                    tihonmarine 9 March 2020 23: 46
                    -3
                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    This is a "sketch from nature", buddy ... I was there for work, quite often and for quite a long time.

                    Sorry buddy, I’ve been working in Arab countries for 50 years, and I don’t need to learn the Arab mentality. I have it the same as Russian.
                    1. Golovan Jack
                      Golovan Jack 9 March 2020 23: 48
                      -2
                      Quote: tihonmarine
                      I worked in Arab countries for 50 years

                      Are you a sailor, sort of like? Did they let them land, even further than the port tavern? wink
                      1. tihonmarine
                        tihonmarine 9 March 2020 23: 55
                        -2
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        Are you a sailor, sort of like? Did they let them land, even further than the port tavern?

                        In Saudi Arabi ??? Do you even know what it is there a tavern ???
                      2. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 9 March 2020 23: 59
                        -2
                        Quote: tihonmarine
                        In Saudi Arabi ??? Do you even know what it is there a tavern ???

                        Naturally, naturally ... I believe laughing

                        I know, I know ... it's hard there with that. Well, how, then they let the port in, or what? wink
                      3. tihonmarine
                        tihonmarine 10 March 2020 00: 06
                        -1
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        Are you a sailor, sort of like?

                        And what do you think the word Sailor?
                      4. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 10 March 2020 00: 07
                        -3
                        Quote: tihonmarine
                        And what do you think the word Sailor?

                        And that which walks on the sea. And sometimes it is allowed on land, but not always and not everywhere wink
                      5. tihonmarine
                        tihonmarine 10 March 2020 00: 11
                        -1
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        Quote: tihonmarine
                        And what do you think the word Sailor?

                        And that which walks on the sea. And sometimes it is allowed on land, but not always and not everywhere wink

                        With the exception of Algeria.
                      6. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 10 March 2020 00: 13
                        -2
                        Funny talk. It seems like about Saudi:

                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        Well, how, then they let the port in, or what?

                        Quote: tihonmarine
                        Except Algeria

                        All. Contact lost, going horizontal laughing
                      7. tihonmarine
                        tihonmarine 10 March 2020 00: 22
                        0
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        All. Contact lost, going horizontal

                        Sorry, but you have long been horizontal.
                  2. tihonmarine
                    tihonmarine 10 March 2020 00: 01
                    0
                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    Think about it - what kind of camels there are to the raven ... you won’t be so jumpy on it

                    We all know that you are a bot. Throw your zuhenweis.
                    1. Golovan Jack
                      Golovan Jack 10 March 2020 00: 03
                      -4
                      Quote: tihonmarine
                      Yes we all know that you are a bot

                      You don’t even understand the words you are saying. You yourself are a bot laughing

                      And about "50 years working for the Arabs" - I will remind you of that. Well, or not me wink
                      1. tihonmarine
                        tihonmarine 10 March 2020 00: 24
                        0
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        And about "50 years working for the Arabs" - I will remind you of that. Well, or not me

                        And who are you ???
                  3. tihonmarine
                    tihonmarine 10 March 2020 10: 17
                    0
                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    Think about it - what kind of camels there are to the raven ... you won’t be so jumpy on it

                    I often visited Dzhida, saw enough of the "buboins".
                2. Cottodraton
                  Cottodraton 10 March 2020 10: 05
                  0
                  Just the Arabs then compete in this with our nouveau riche
    7. tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
      tovarich-andrey.62goncharov 9 March 2020 14: 50
      0
      What, the seeds in the market will rise in price again, and, taking care of us, you already pour bitter tears and sprinkle ash on your head?
    8. Alekseev
      Alekseev 9 March 2020 15: 18
      +2
      Quote: Whalebone
      Again Putin outplayed everyone? Who does not have dollars in a zashashnik, you again were thrown on grandmothers.

      Then I realized: Putin is a genie, because he can do a lot ... wink
      But do not set the price of oil ... It can still affect, but the Russian Federation sells 5-7 percent of all this raw material on the world market. For the Russian Federation and the ruble, this is very significant, but not decisive for the world.
      Second: do not make waves in the basin. And the prices are stabilizing, the Saudis also suffer losses, and here you see, the Hussites wassat . The factory will blow up again and the buzzer, buzzer, prices will immediately return to their place. Like Amer shale at such prices it is completely unprofitable.
      In general, it is not beneficial to anyone, especially, the market will be ill, as well as the coronavirus.
      As for thrown to the grandmother. Potatoes and meat, sugar, etc., do not rise in price, as well as their manufactured goods too until figs in the 21st century to rise in price. The same is true for real estate full wink . In addition, imports will fall, which is good and conditions for domestic production are improving. Yes, and it is already necessary to process more oil inside the country, oil products are not much cheaper in the world with cheaper oil.
      You try to sell now dollars at a high price at the bank, not sure of success.
      And if a well-fed citizen, having drunk coffee in a warm, cozy apartment, is worried that it is now expensive for him to go to Spain and have to visit the resort more simply, then he will survive, not scary.
    9. Po-tzan
      Po-tzan 9 March 2020 15: 51
      -1
      There is infa from a knowledgeable person that soon there will be real changes. After stabilizing Syria, they will form a trade alliance with the Middle East. They will raise oil and keep it, Europe will do what the hell. Now the main thing is not to bay, no rallies, no bulk.
    10. sleeve
      sleeve 10 March 2020 05: 42
      +1
      Good afternoon. So as not to hammer the tongue in vain, you can poke a finger where they threw at the headstock in rubles? About this speech, as I understand it? Pensions were reduced, for cut, the price jumped without oil, and here the government is out of business (see tomatoes in Khabarovsk). Where did you throw that?
    11. trahterist
      trahterist 10 March 2020 18: 12
      0
      In in! While such fools will be in the world, that with such crises, rubles will immediately run into green waste paper to change, so we will be in the ass.
      This is not the first time that teeth have been broken off, but running on a rake is probably our national one.
  2. rocket757
    rocket757 9 March 2020 12: 41
    +9
    Expected and not the first time.
    Break through!
    But who really gets sick, we will soon see.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 9 March 2020 12: 44
      +26
      Quote: rocket757
      But who really gets sick, we will soon see.

      Viktor, there is no doubt about it .. only ordinary citizens of Russia will get sick.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 9 March 2020 12: 55
        -4
        Obviously not an obvious option!
        The fact that it never becomes easier for us after ANY global events is not even discussed! On the other hand, after the depreciation of the ruble, the export companies were overwhelmed with "business rubles" and the "owners" of the enterprises "easily" raised the ruble salaries ..... this has already happened.
        Another thing is that the purchasing power of the population was still declining ... it is "ridiculous" to hear from a tomato trader in the bazaar that the price of goods has risen because the dollar is growing !!!
        In general, there will be obvious and implicit losses, with our standard of living !!!
        But all the same, to a greater extent depends on whether some enterprises will be closed and people will remain TOTALLY WITHOUT WORK ??? This will be an indicator of INDICATORS. But the dollar exchange rate doesn’t bother me much, it’s speculation ... a financial instrument that affects our life very indirectly!
        1. UserGun
          UserGun 9 March 2020 13: 30
          +13
          Quote: rocket757
          But the dollar exchange rate doesn’t bother me much, it’s speculation ... a financial instrument that affects our life very indirectly!


          Well, how indirectly ... Here's a vivid example of your "patriotic" indirection. About 2 months ago I looked after a payment for repairs to buy from our cross-eyed friends, for 3600 rubles, but then the Chinese New Year, coronavirus))) And now this scarf, in the light of recent events, is already 4300 rubles !!!Charles. In pagan bucks, the price has not changed and even slightly decreased))) I think this is not the limit ... You still naively believe, sitting quietly in your snail, that the whole world is exchanging the only wooden currency of "a safe haven in a stormy sea "?! )))) Shchazzz)))
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 9 March 2020 13: 47
            +12
            Quote: UserGun
            Well, how indirectly ... Here's a vivid example of your "patriotic" indirection. About 2 months ago I looked at a repair board to buy from our cross-eyed friends

            I am not a patriot of the current government, but my country and all the workers who .....! What I want for her, I won’t even list ... including that, ALL THE BOARDS, Pribludy and Pribabakh were made by our workers, at our enterprises, our industries !!!
            And everything was sold for rubles, Schaub they were full-fledged ....
            1. UserGun
              UserGun 9 March 2020 14: 14
              +10
              You cannot do EVERYTHING. Rather, you can purely hypothetically, only I'm afraid to upset you, but EVERYTHING will not be bought. For various reasons. And if they don’t buy, then why do it ?!
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 9 March 2020 14: 37
                -1
                If we discard the "bananas" and all that stuff, WHAT we cannot do, what we NEED, that we are not being sold at the moment.
                Take, for example, all kinds of electronic Pribluda.
                What they obviously don’t want or cannot sell to us and what we are FORCED to do ourselves, they will sell every little thing, although we could do it ourselves. The electronic components industry cannot exist and will not develop without the possibility of selling its products! Do we have such a need ??? We have no established, cost-effective production.
                What's next? High-tech production of electronic components of a high degree of integration, complexity, processors, microcircuits, modern SENSORS, etc. !!!
                Again, there is a need and not only for war ... and again there are problems with production itself, whether it is not there or we are far behind. The problems are the same as the solutions.
                There will be a full elemental base, there will be assembly plants! With a reasonable pricing system, with proper quality and production of an extensive product range, there will be demand.
                And so in most industries. Somewhere else, it’s already stirring, and somewhere full there is an ambush.
                But, if you do nothing, nothing will change!
                From below, such problems cannot be solved, but from above there is an ambush!
                1. Demon_is_ada
                  Demon_is_ada 9 March 2020 17: 02
                  +8
                  Victor hi So we again approach the inefficiency of a market economy with progressive growth laughing it justifies itself more or less only with extensive development by expanding the market, which is what everyone is talking about, but few people understand that planet Earth is a finite concept. And we will be able to do everything, not just with files and a sledgehammer in the old fashioned way, but with automated enterprises and moreover flexible, the development of technologies already allows this, but alas, it’s catastrophically disadvantageous to the nouveau riches, I personally see every day how they spend resources on imported gold toilets, three, I swam a bottle for a hundred thousand and other show-offs, but I did not see that the production was reconstructed, not counting the newly built ones. This is an ideology which, as stated in the basic law, we don’t have, if you are honest you survive, if you don’t have chocolate, you just look around hi
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 9 March 2020 17: 24
                    +2
                    There is nothing incomprehensible here ... although, as anyone. I often argue with the "ardent communist". It seems not, but explain to him that it is impossible to endlessly release products to the warehouse, because the demand for those galoshes is limited and no State Planning Commission can foresee rapid changes in demand and simply the need to stop early production of black galoshes, because blue is in fashion!
                    This is me, figuratively.
                    The economy should be flexible, ready at any time to switch to the release of new products, despite any plans there!
                    Overstocking is no less dangerous than the lack of products.
                    Again, demand creates ... the financial viability of the population, it is in the domestic market, or the ability to export products!
                    And there the problems are the same. Do you need your products and whether they can buy it.
                    The earth is round and the population seems to be getting bigger, but that does not mean that everything that you release will be bought ... otherwise it will be a warehouse, and this is almost a dead end.
                    Everything is complicated, and without a plan in general, kirdyk will come, but the same plan, this is only a proposal to show active interest in everything that happens in the world and be ready to change ourselves, in accordance with the requirements of consumer demand.
                    1. Demon_is_ada
                      Demon_is_ada 9 March 2020 20: 31
                      +5
                      We somehow missed the manipulation of the fragile consciousness of people of whom the majority, but the sworn partners in this field are, to my regret, clear leaders, starting from psak rhetoric, ending with Hollywood and politics, everything is geared towards managing "freedom of choice" well, that is, fashion wassat This is of course very shocking, but this is a scientific fact, all fashion, currents, movements, etc. everything comes to us from outside, including fashion. All the time I was wildest surprised by the painful desire of people to buy an iPhone ... well, what the hell are you 1000 dots for 2000 on a screen the size of two matchboxes ??? Our eyes are not able to distinguish the difference, in short it is faith, a fanatical blind faith in an idol, it is useless to convince, but grandmas are there crying
                      We need to work at warehouses, the same example with Irkutsk, if the governor had the intellect, he would only partially solve the problem, due to the lack of strategic reserves of both building materials and builders, the question is whether it is necessary and sufficient and to react vigorously to changes in the world. According to the same screwdrivers, the choice is not only big, huge, but there isn’t that ideal, but taking into account practice, there is a concept that is already impossible to improve laughing here it also needs to be let out, but not all crap. How Medvedev was planning to build several plants for the production of energy-saving mercury-vapor lamps in Russia at one time, despite the fact that our father and founder of super-bright LEDs, Academician Alferov, lived and worked with us ... this is Tryndets ... so the plan is not everything, depending on who writes it ...
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 9 March 2020 21: 13
                        +3
                        Quote: Demon_is_ada
                        why the plan is not everything, depending on who writes it ...

                        A plan, a plan, but brains must also be had and used for .... for business, in general.
                        Quote: Demon_is_ada
                        everything is geared towards managing "freedom of choice" well, that is, fashion

                        The skill of politicians, merchants and other interested parties consists in manipulating what many, different people, are designated by such expressions as "freedom of choice", free will .... the world of illusions in which we live, many.
                2. Victor N
                  Victor N 9 March 2020 17: 25
                  0
                  I have never heard that "above" did all sorts of bells and whistles - this is not a tsar's business. But what "below" does not bother with quality - the witness himself.
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 9 March 2020 17: 40
                    +1
                    Do not exaggerate. Planning can take different forms, as well as the organization of various industries occurs in different ways ... but this is in ordinary countries!
                    We have a normal country? We rich are building something, if they don’t need it here and now ???
                    They begin to move only after they have something, dearly beloved, locked at the door and nothing else. Or the state itself must restore something!
                    We need to restore the whole killed industry, in all respects, starting with training a new generation of specialists of any level!
                    Who can, wants to do THIS? Who will be able to accomplish this "feat"?
          2. Whalebone
            Whalebone 9 March 2020 13: 58
            0
            These eccentrics until the potato has risen in price, all side. They’ll hate even stronger Ov and naglosaksa. They are to blame for everything, do not go to a fortuneteller.
          3. kot28.ru
            kot28.ru 9 March 2020 15: 08
            -3
            did you save 3600 for two months ??? Or is it just a story fellow
            1. standan
              standan 9 March 2020 18: 28
              +3
              Yes, more like a fairy tale or the ears of Chinese eaters, I ordered a fee for beech in January, the price was 4000, I just looked, the price is 4200. The usual price fluctuations are alik.
              1. Fan-fan
                Fan-fan 9 March 2020 21: 27
                -2
                And I ordered the processor on Ali last summer, now I looked at the price for it, jumped 65%, are these normal fluctuations?
                1. standan
                  standan 9 March 2020 21: 31
                  0
                  I just ordered two SSDs on Alik, the price for them has risen by 300 rubles compared to last fall, but our Citylink immediately inflated the price for 1000 rubles. Yes, the Chinese have also changed prices, some 2 times, and some 200-300r
                  1. standan
                    standan 9 March 2020 21: 45
                    +1
                    The cunning of some merchants simply scales, the bucks went up by 6 rubles, the price tag soared by 10 bucks, cool what.
        2. Po-tzan
          Po-tzan 9 March 2020 18: 00
          +3
          Quote: rocket757
          But the dollar exchange rate doesn’t bother me much, it’s speculation ... a financial instrument that affects our life very indirectly!


          And what about diabetics - the Russian Federation does not produce insulin, but buys for dollars.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 9 March 2020 18: 05
            0
            They have been producing insulin for a long time. There are drugs that do not produce or the price is unbearable !!!
            Just like EVERYWHERE. The poor can only rely on state, public assistance ... HOW AND IN ALL COUNTRIES!
            This is capitalism, they themselves have chosen it.
      2. Kitty77
        Kitty77 9 March 2020 13: 39
        +4
        But the Communists are all at personal factories and ships
    2. Whalebone
      Whalebone 9 March 2020 12: 56
      +13
      Almost 300 people will tell me at the end of the week that the salary needs to be raised. And with my hands, like this geek, I can’t part. Responsibility is such a word. It turns out 300 is more than 140 million.
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 9 March 2020 13: 00
        -12
        Quote: Whalebone
        Nearly 300 people at the end of the week will tell me that I need to raise my salary

        So you are from the exploiters, or what? My class enemy? Cool laughing
        1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
          Sidor Amenpodestovich 9 March 2020 13: 09
          +3
          There is a suspicion that he is lying. An employer of three hundred people has more important activities than to blame for power in the comments on VO.
          However, most likely he himself was a mercenary from among these three hundred Spartans, and he himself was going to go to a superior in order to ask for an increase. And here you go, such a bummer! Well, and how not to show off your supposedly exalted position?
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 9 March 2020 13: 13
            -13
            Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
            An employer of three hundred people has more important activities than to blame for power in the comments on VO

            I agree. Especially now, when the exchange is storming.

            Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
            There is a suspicion that he is lying

            I share. I'm just kidding, I'm having fun request laughing
            1. Whalebone
              Whalebone 9 March 2020 13: 25
              0
              So you are a troll?) Thanks for the recognition
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 9 March 2020 13: 27
                -7
                Quote: Whalebone
                So you are a troll?) Thanks for the recognition

                1. No, you are the troll.
                2. Not worth the gratitude.
          2. Whalebone
            Whalebone 9 March 2020 13: 23
            -8
            Oracle? What are you doing?
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 9 March 2020 13: 26
              -3
              Quote: Whalebone
              Oracle? What are you doing?

              IT. No, not Oracle, although a related topic laughing
              1. Whalebone
                Whalebone 9 March 2020 13: 34
                -3
                Oh, an offshore programmer with a salary in dollars? From there defend your homeland? Successes.
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 9 March 2020 13: 39
                  -3
                  Quote: Whalebone
                  Offshore programmer with a salary in dollars?

                  Past. You yourself ... offshore laughing

                  Quote: Whalebone
                  Success

                  Closer to the body: so what did you give the "people" for work, O son of an officer?
                  1. Whalebone
                    Whalebone 9 March 2020 13: 48
                    -6
                    I wrote below. Although to report to people like you - do not respect yourself.
                    1. Andrey VOV
                      Andrey VOV 9 March 2020 18: 10
                      -1
                      Oh, and what about construction? Oh, what a monetary matter, your square meters are really worth so much? Can you reduce your appetites and build quality? Three hundred people, what kind of company is this huge?
                      1. Whalebone
                        Whalebone 9 March 2020 19: 28
                        -3
                        Show your regalia so that there is dialogue in the level.
            2. Sidor Amenpodestovich
              Sidor Amenpodestovich 9 March 2020 13: 36
              +3
              Sports Betting! And online casinos. According to statistics, people in a crisis situation are most prone to unjustified risk. So now there is the heat.
          3. kot28.ru
            kot28.ru 9 March 2020 15: 11
            -3
            so the employer will pay for komenty. The reason to write more komentov he has hi
        2. Whalebone
          Whalebone 9 March 2020 13: 23
          0
          Yes, the exploiter. Gave work to people. Fool.
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 9 March 2020 13: 23
            -1
            And what kind of work? wink
            1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
              Sidor Amenpodestovich 9 March 2020 13: 31
              +4
              And in response - silence. He has not yet figured out which one.
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                1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                  Sidor Amenpodestovich 9 March 2020 13: 45
                  +6
                  They began to make mistakes, and they remembered the training manual .. So you're nervous. Touched by the living, hehe! Apparently, you have a day off today. You can have a drink. Or eat something sweet.
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                    1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                      Sidor Amenpodestovich 9 March 2020 14: 11
                      +3
                      Lose your temper. Get together! You have under the guidance of three hundred people! Nearly.
            2. Whalebone
              Whalebone 9 March 2020 13: 35
              -3
              Construction. Work with hands. Direct surplus value. I pay for every brick.
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 9 March 2020 13: 46
                -5
                good I live on these three percent laughing

                Sorry, the joke was remembered ...

                Quote: Whalebone
                Construction. Hand work

                Well, you will still have the opportunity to confirm your words.

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                  1. Golovan Jack
                    Golovan Jack 9 March 2020 14: 21
                    -5
                    Quote: Whalebone
                    The first informers put to the wall

                    Personal experience? From a construction site? wink

                    Do not worry, no one will hurt you. And to check whether you are telling the truth or lying, there are many ways ... this will be wink

                    Quote: Whalebone
                    They taught you badly. Find yourself a job before it's too late

                    I was taught well, I have a job, and I like it.

                    Quote: Whalebone
                    If the trolley roll overpower 1000 rubles per day I promise

                    Oh, it's warmer ... "Free accommodation, meals, cigarettes, 1000 rubles per day."

                    Ads such homeless firms are full in the train. So are you one of these? wink
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                      1. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 9 March 2020 14: 32
                        -6
                        Quote: Whalebone
                        You, dear, accused me of lying

                        Guessing and blaming are two different things.

                        Quote: Whalebone
                        Your profession is clear

                        Any complaints? I like that dynamic little one, never boring belay

                        Okay, goodbye for now ... and the operator laughing
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                      3. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 9 March 2020 14: 48
                        -4
                        Quote: Whalebone
                        Three-tracked Troll merged? )) Where else drown for the rules? Is it your freelance or main place ?!

                        Do not be killed so you will never be killed (c).

                        By the way, if I were an entrepreneur, I wouldn’t butt on the site now, but would save what I had gained through overwork. Or is there nothing to save? wink
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                      5. Andrey VOV
                        Andrey VOV 9 March 2020 18: 13
                        -2
                        Something I’m not quite a bit lately the video of houses has been made of pure brick ... the monoliths are pouring, quickly, cheaper ..... and maybe three hundred people of the Kyrgyz? And will it fall so pour in concrete and adyu?
                      6. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 9 March 2020 18: 36
                        -4
                        Quote: Andrey VOV
                        and three hundred people of the Kyrgyz probably?

                        We drove this stop already:

                        Quote: Whalebone
                        If the trolley roll overpower 1000 rubles per day I promise

                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        Oh, it's warmer ... "Free accommodation, meals, cigarettes, 1000 rubles per day." There are a lot of advertisements for such homeless firms in the train

                        It is understandable, in practice, the philanthropist-employer.
                  2. ML-334
                    ML-334 9 March 2020 14: 51
                    +3
                    For the "ruble" now Uzbeks will not roll a cart. Slaves or what? And they also put alarmists against the wall.
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                2. Paranoid50
                  Paranoid50 9 March 2020 14: 06
                  +8
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  there will be a case to confirm your words.

                  Fall off faster, because how many of these have already been here. fellow Yes, and over the last month, a lot of "fresh meat with a smell" has piled here - that is still a carousel. laughing
                  1. Whalebone
                    Whalebone 9 March 2020 14: 27
                    -2
                    One more? I won’t fall off, and you?
      2. frei67
        frei67 9 March 2020 13: 36
        -1
        and you raise?
    3. UserGun
      UserGun 9 March 2020 13: 03
      +3
      Those. we never did not live bahato and you shouldn't even stutter about it? The state of the leaders of the cranes is above all ?! Excuse me, why did we then catch up with Portugal and so did not catch up and pagan Germany from the 4th place gathered according to the "great" plan of the Most Serene Highness ?! )))
    4. Minipig79
      Minipig79 9 March 2020 13: 35
      +3
      If you go beyond the walls of the Kremlin and look at living people, at least in any grocery ... Well, they all get sick.
    5. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 9 March 2020 23: 30
      0
      Quote: rocket757
      But who really gets sick, we will soon see.

      The answer is one.
  3. VLR
    VLR 9 March 2020 12: 44
    +2
    Let's not bury our heads in the sand and say frankly: the Putin-Mishustin government, bluffing at the OPEC + negotiations out of the blue, screwed up and should resign. But it will not go away, of course: with just an elegant movement of the hand, he will pull out 30 percent of the money available there from the Russians' wallet and say that the collapsed ruble is normal and good for the economy: this is how everything was intended. But shale in the US will be covered (once again) ... But diversification and economic recovery (next) ... But import substitution ... And so on.
    1. edeligor
      edeligor 9 March 2020 12: 53
      0
      Quote: VlR
      the Putin-Mishustin government, bluffing at the OPEC + talks out of the blue
      Oh oh ?! Look deeper. How can I zero my promise bag? Yes, everything is simple! Oil painting. The foreign press directly states that the situation with the collapse of oil was, first of all, initiated by the position of Moscow. What's next?...
      1. kepmor
        kepmor 9 March 2020 13: 05
        +12
        what's next ??? ... but nothing ... as usual we will be "proud" of the newly minted scatters in the Forbes list ...
    2. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 9 March 2020 13: 08
      -4
      Do you know the tasks and problems that they solved? Well, what would argue that there was a bluff and that screwed up?
      1. VLR
        VLR 9 March 2020 13: 16
        +14
        That is, you think that they deliberately decided to drastically cut budget revenues, bring down the ruble, achieve higher prices for imported goods - from smartphones to oranges, make tour trips abroad inaccessible - and all this on the eve of the vote on the Constitution and the upcoming September elections? Have you decided to make yourself such a beautiful hara-kiri? No, this is not a strategy, not a "gambit" - this is greed (they thought the Saudis would take all the costs on themselves), stupidity and unprofessionalism.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 9 March 2020 13: 23
          -10
          you yourself answer your accusations. did they need it? how do you know what conditions OPEC put forward to them? technologically, we could not immediately reduce production, we said a lot. you will not shut up the field with a stopper. and suddenly they rolled out so much that technologically again we can’t stupidly? it cannot be argued without knowing the nuances of the negotiations. it’s too bold even for analysts who ate a dog on this topic.
          1. Minipig79
            Minipig79 9 March 2020 13: 39
            +6
            But doesn’t it seem to you that if there is nothing to hide and there is no guilt, then take and publish the content of the negotiations to your people, eh ?!
            Ahh, they do not have their own people, there is only a milking electorate.
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 9 March 2020 13: 46
              -5
              with what joy do they do it? even if they want, they need the permission of all negotiators. Do you think they will give this permission?
              1. Minipig79
                Minipig79 9 March 2020 13: 47
                +2
                What joy they don’t understand. I interpret about the theoretical type of responsibility of the authorities to their people)))
                1. carstorm 11
                  carstorm 11 9 March 2020 14: 11
                  -6
                  I do not mind that they would be made public. I don’t understand why this is for ordinary people though. 99 percent still do not understand. but I also know that FIG who will allow it. too many participants and each has its own interests.
                  1. Minipig79
                    Minipig79 9 March 2020 14: 27
                    +3
                    I agree. The point is simply that our government is not accountable, plus "for some reason" the names of persons specifically responsible for the failure of policies in certain countries (Ukraine) or the same negotiations (the same Gazprom with Ukraine) are not disclosed. And also the actions of the state are not visible in the adequate assessment of the activities of the perpetrators.
        2. TAMBU
          TAMBU 9 March 2020 13: 24
          +6
          99% sure that this is greed ...
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 9 March 2020 13: 35
            -3
            there are no fools. and greed is not an argument at all.
            1. TAMBU
              TAMBU 9 March 2020 14: 19
              +6
              Well, you judge by yourself, probably this is not an argument ... but about fools, this is such a cool illusion, which is actually based on the sneak and lack of conscience of those in power ... if you spoke with officials you would be very surprised at their mental development ... but then you can learn from them brazenly and stubbornly achieve your goal - yes.
              1. carstorm 11
                carstorm 11 9 March 2020 14: 36
                -4
                I have been communicating with business people one way or another for the last 9 years. there are different ones. daffodils and really nutty. thinking a lot about themselves and infantile. but I have never met outright fools. their business just spits out. I'm not talking about officials. I’m talking about business. It is he who decides in this party. if Rosneft is already frankly saying that they are simply bending it with this agreement, then what is the point for us to crawl with judgments?
                1. TAMBU
                  TAMBU 9 March 2020 14: 49
                  +2
                  I'm not talking about officials. i'm talking about business
                  - then I agree. The problem of the domestic system is that the official, as a mouthpiece and the driving mechanism of the business, has too much freedom of action and often acts according to his own understanding, since there are several different business groups tied to him, and this ultimately sows such situations. I can’t say that this one of them is 100% but the probability is high enough) so I’ll probably agree about the fools ... but about greed, I’ll still stay at my place)
        3. edeligor
          edeligor 9 March 2020 13: 36
          -3
          Quote: VlR
          all this on the eve of the constitutional vote and the upcoming elections in September
          I don't know, Valery, what you were doing in the 90s, but most of the politicians at the helm at that time raised their "rating" in this way. Created problems and helped solve them. It's simple. Judging by the estimates here and the advanced technologies of elections in Russia, rest assured, They will succeed.
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          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 9 March 2020 14: 12
            -3
            Well, then you’re of course Wang and the fact that this virus will appear in a year predicted))) the fact that the Chinese market will collapse by 20 percent in general for two)))
  4. wellaut
    wellaut 9 March 2020 12: 47
    +17
    Putin recently said that the decline in Russian incomes is due to low oil prices.
    Is it possible to assume that in the future it will only get worse?
    Well, the prices for gasoline at such a price for oil are simply bound to rise, this is the "logic" of our government smile
  5. helmi8
    helmi8 9 March 2020 12: 49
    +11
    Quote: Svarog
    only ordinary citizens of Russia will "get sick".

    Sechin will definitely not suffer, but the rest - "there is no money, but you are holding on" ...
    in this case, the revenue lost by the budget is compensated at the expense of the National Welfare Fund.

    1. kapitan92
      kapitan92 9 March 2020 13: 09
      +8
      Quote: helmi8
      Sechin will definitely not suffer, but the rest - "there is no money, but you are holding on" ...

      “The oversupply has developed at present only in the light oil segment - it is produced by almost all OPEC members and the largest non-aligned oil exporters, including the United States, Norway, Brazil and Mexico. But with heavy, sulfurous oil, the situation is exactly the opposite. After the US sanctions practically stopped supplies from Iran and Venezuela, there was a shortage in this market segment. Therefore, now the main and practically the only supplier of heavy grades is Russia. "
      Lukoil.
       Representatives of most oil companies following the meeting with the Minister of Energy Alexander Novak, they spoke for extending the deal for one more quarter, said the first vice president of Lukoil Ravil Maganov.
      At Surgutneftegaz, , also happy with everything.

      Meanwhile at Rosneft, on the contrary, the current deal is said to create preferential treatment for US shale oil.
      For those who develop production and launch new projects, the OPEC + deal and its relevance for Russia seem outdated. It was because of OPEC + that the start of exploitation of the Russkoye and Yurubcheno-Tokhomskoye fields was postponed, and the deadlines for the Taas-Yuryakh, Tagulskoye and Kuyumbinskoye projects were moved (the latter is a joint venture between Rosneft and Gazprom Neft).
      "Novatek" against this background, it reported an 8-fold increase in net profit for the third quarter (up to 369,96 billion rubles). LNG sales in international markets in 2019 increased by + 111,1% (to 12,8 billion cubic meters). The company also pays record dividends to private shareholders (more than RUB 79 billion, or about 34% of normalized profit under IFRS), promises to revise its payment policy upward, and also to launch financing for the company's second major project, Arctic LNG-2.
      Apparently, it is Novatek that is the main lobbyist for the extension of the agreements within the OPEC +.
      “Most of his contracts are tied to the oil basket. This allows the company to sell LNG at a significant premium to spot prices.
      The final decision to exit the transaction will be made in April.
      The oligarch of Russia in a fierce battle! laughing
  6. soldat tv
    soldat tv 9 March 2020 12: 53
    +10
    "The chef is all gone !!!"
    There is only one hope for the Hussites. Savior of the Russian economy. crying
  7. Smart
    Smart 9 March 2020 12: 55
    -2
    Let's strike a nuclear strike on Saudi Arabia!
    It is not in the NATO bloc, they do not have their own nuclear weapons, we will not have an answer.
    Then oil prices will immediately rise, at the same time we will check one of our components of the nuclear triad.
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    3. Whalebone
      Whalebone 9 March 2020 13: 27
      -5
      Here you are laughing, and it will become with them.
    4. Garris199
      Garris199 10 March 2020 00: 27
      0
      I always wonder why we need so many nuclear weapons, especially tactical ones, if they are of no use to the country. I support the proposal, such manipulations by the Saudis pose a direct threat to the security of the Russian Federation. You can adjust the market in an hour.
  8. UserGun
    UserGun 9 March 2020 13: 05
    +8
    Quote: VlR
    But the shales in the United States will be covered (once again) ..


    Yes Yes Yes! It's like burying a green piece of paper to bury for the umpteenth time))))
  9. Durman_54
    Durman_54 9 March 2020 13: 07
    +3
    The Sultan outplayed. Maybe this time it can.
    In 2015, they predicted 200 rubles per dollar, by the way.
  10. Warrior MorePhoto
    Warrior MorePhoto 9 March 2020 13: 13
    +13
    Quote: rocket757
    Obviously not an obvious option!
    The fact that it never becomes easier for us after ANY global events is not even discussed! On the other hand, after the depreciation of the ruble, the export companies were overwhelmed with "business rubles" and the "owners" of the enterprises "easily" raised the ruble salaries ..... this has already happened.
    Another thing is that the purchasing power of the population was still declining ... it is "ridiculous" to hear from a tomato trader in the bazaar that the price of goods has risen because the dollar is growing !!!
    In general, there will be obvious and implicit losses, with our standard of living !!!
    But all the same, to a greater extent depends on whether some enterprises will be closed and people will remain TOTALLY WITHOUT WORK ??? This will be an indicator of INDICATORS. But the dollar exchange rate doesn’t bother me much, it’s speculation ... a financial instrument that affects our life very indirectly!


    funny "to hear from a tomato trader in the bazaar that the price of goods has risen because the dollar is growing !!!

    And what's funny ?
    1. Seeds of Dutch selection, purchase in $, increase.
    2. Gasoline will rise in price, increase
    3. Machinery and components (more than half of all agricultural imports), increase
    4. If "it is necessary" to increase the salary so that the people do not stretch their legs, increase
    5. Lease of points of sale will increase since everyone is tied to $ (I rent it myself, and if you know that every year the price in the shopping center rises by 3-5%, this is generally a typical model agreement), increase

    Everything will rise in price! And life will become even more difficult for us!
    Those who pump resources and sell them for $, that’s the norm.
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  11. gulliver
    gulliver 9 March 2020 13: 16
    +3
    Quote: Whalebone
    Has Putin outplayed everyone again? Those who do not have dollars in the storehouse, you were again thrown at the grandmother. Already 20 percent. Such is the Glavsterkh opupenny geopolitician. You can already shout "Hurray", it's time.

    Oh sho, this is such a recent electoral mass promised to endure that the victory is close and how desperately voted for the current government! good
    1. Whalebone
      Whalebone 9 March 2020 13: 53
      0
      April 22 will show that the population is supporting.
  12. Operator
    Operator 9 March 2020 13: 17
    -4
    The Saudis are in a burnout - when limiting oil production, they do not have the means to maintain a population that sits on the oil needle and imports everything and everyone. The total cost of Saudi oil (including subsidies to the population) exceeds the cost of Russian oil. Now for KSA it is a matter of survival, not war with anyone. Therefore, the only way out for the Saudi regime is to increase production volumes to compensate for the fall in prices.

    But Saudis' policies are ruining the American shale oil and gas industry, which is the basis of Trump's strategy to boost the national economy. In this connection, the stock exchange price of Brent oil every day at the close of trading is "miraculously" kept at the level of +40 dollars per barrel (currently 45 dollars), despite fluctuations during the day.

    The Russian budget was drawn up on the basis of an oil price of $ 40 and has other external sources of replenishment (except for oil and gas) in the form of exports of food, ore, coal and weapons. Therefore, the opinion of the "analyst" cited in the article under consideration is from the category of statements of the ever-memorable Katz.
    1. TAMBU
      TAMBU 9 March 2020 13: 45
      +1
      has other external sources of replenishment (except oil and gas) in the form of export of food, ore, coal and weapons
      - That's right ... only you would specify in what relation these other sources of income to the main one are oil and gas sales.
      1. Fan-fan
        Fan-fan 9 March 2020 21: 39
        -3
        I’ll clarify, only today I learned that 80% of our exports are oil, gas and their products, and only 20% of the export is everything else.
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 9 March 2020 21: 48
          -3
          Quote: Fan-Fan
          only today I learned that 80% of our exports are oil, gas and products of their processing and only 20% of the export is everything else

          Oh, "the second one went." Publish the source of this fake, I just can't find it. I'll even give you a plus laughing
    2. The popuas
      The popuas 9 March 2020 14: 02
      0
      I completely agree with you! I just woke up from the night shift, went in, but here it is such a howl! Some brothers are worth from Ukraine and Israel ... wassat Directly conserved crying
      1. Fishery
        Fishery 9 March 2020 14: 25
        +3
        the non-brothers are getting cheaper))) right now)
        1. The popuas
          The popuas 9 March 2020 14: 32
          -2
          And then what are they crying ...? I wouldn’t be glad to buy bucks ... laughing
          1. Fishery
            Fishery 9 March 2020 14: 34
            +1
            Duc and so bucks in the population as the second currency, in each grocery exchange
            1. The popuas
              The popuas 9 March 2020 14: 36
              +1
              In the fat 90s we also had bully
              1. Fishery
                Fishery 9 March 2020 14: 37
                -1
                I remember living in the Russian Federation.
          2. kot28.ru
            kot28.ru 9 March 2020 15: 21
            0
            so hryvnias are needed for buying bucks, and not only everyone needs them hi
            1. The popuas
              The popuas 9 March 2020 15: 38
              -2
              That is understandable, I wrote about the "fat" 90s hi
            2. Fishery
              Fishery 9 March 2020 18: 36
              0
              therefore there is no parking space in the LCD) all in American cars) and Eurofolts)
    3. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 9 March 2020 14: 13
      +4
      Quote: Operator
      Therefore, the opinion of the "analyst" cited in the article under consideration is from the category of statements of the ever-memorable Katz.

      The full version is at "24". There is a lot of jerkiness here without connection - this is how the uncle confirms what you said, giving a more detailed analysis. By the way, the first hysteria on the stock exchanges has passed - now there will be a rollback. yes
  13. TAMBU
    TAMBU 9 March 2020 13: 20
    +7
    well what? replete, yksperdy x ... greed fraers ruined - get it.
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  16. Pacifist with AK
    Pacifist with AK 9 March 2020 13: 35
    -5
    I'm waiting for the minuses)))))) Gentlemen, the hysteria on the site is like in a women's bath at the sight of a naked man who accidentally walks in there!))) Although not your compatriot, he is very interested in the recipe for a way out of the situation. not interesting))))) I would like a serious constructive. Show off with analytics, dear!
    Sofa economist Pacifist.
    1. Pacifist with AK
      Pacifist with AK 9 March 2020 13: 38
      -3
      By the way, the Operator (Andrey) pleased, clearly and on the shelves. Respect to the respected forum member!
      1. Operator
        Operator 9 March 2020 16: 32
        0
        Herds of fearless administration graze the administration of the borderlands, Israelis and local Russophobes.
    2. loki565
      loki565 9 March 2020 14: 31
      +2
      I want a serious construct. Shine with analytics, dear!

      no, it doesn’t work here)))
    3. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 9 March 2020 15: 07
      0
      Quote: AK pacifist
      Gentlemen, the tantrum on the site

      So for sure, hysterical.yes This phenomenon happens here quite regularly, especially considering the contingent, which deserves special mention. In the days of any momentous events or the next world tension, the degree reaches its limit values. Frantic bourgeoisie, generously diluted with freshman boatmen, arranges a wild orgy with a bacchanalia. fellow wassat Even if you go over this branch, you will see that, as a rule, anonymous freshly-lost organisms give out a maximum of slobber-snot. Yes, please, a little higher - some coalfish and other cetacean walruses. laughing And yes, Alexey, you are absolutely right: a balanced adequate commentary is now priced. hi
      1. Pacifist with AK
        Pacifist with AK 9 March 2020 15: 34
        +3
        Good day, Alexander! I absolutely agree with you. good "We ourselves are not local"))))))), I am an awesome expert, I understand the art of war, not too badly, but ...... I go to the site, because I'm just INTERESTED! I appreciate professional comments and common sense, I don’t pay attention to the minuses. I can flood, I’m a sinner, I confess)))))) throwing shovels of guano on the fan! Thanks to them, the site sank completely, resembles a stove in a communal apartment covered by cockroaches))))))
        All the best! Sincerely.
        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 9 March 2020 19: 04
          +5
          Quote: AK pacifist
          resembles a cockroach-laden stove in a communal apartment))))))

          Everything is much weaker, because for almost forty years of living in the old St. Petersburg communal apartment I have not seen a single cockroach. yes Here, in crowds. fellow See you later. hi
  17. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 9 March 2020 13: 44
    +4
    Once again, we will drop off for the home-grown oil bourgeoisie, such as Sechin and Alekperov, to compensate them for the "lost" income.
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    1. Andrey VOV
      Andrey VOV 9 March 2020 18: 20
      -2
      Are you a genius in economics, politics, and so on? If so smart, what is not among the rich, smart, famous?
  19. aranzon1913
    aranzon1913 9 March 2020 13: 54
    +2
    Husits ​​can quite correct prices. Drones
  20. 7,62x54
    7,62x54 9 March 2020 13: 56
    +4
    And how joyfully crab Putin and the prince of Saudi Arabia on the G20.
  21. The popuas
    The popuas 9 March 2020 13: 58
    +1
    Oh ... how many "brothers" have come and everyone is going through it! bully
  22. New Year day
    New Year day 9 March 2020 14: 08
    +9
    “The war that Saudi Arabia unleashed”

    the expert is simply lying:
    "The OPEC + summit in Vienna has completely failed. The major oil-producing powers failed to agree on an additional reduction in production in order to maintain prices. Decisive was the position of Russia, which did not agree to lose its market share in exchange for the hope of seeing higher prices. "
    https://iz.ru/984362/evgeniia-pertceva-irina-tcyruleva/ne-ochen-i-khotelos-pochemu-rossiia-otvergla-novoe-soglashenie-opek
  23. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 9 March 2020 14: 10
    +4
    The oil futures night massacre spread to the entire global financial system. laughing 1. Asian platforms have recently closed.

    China. Shanghai: -3,01%.

    Japan. NIKKEI: -5,38%.

    South Korea. KOSPI: -4,19%.



    2. Europe has opened:

    Germany. DAX: -7,5%

    France. CAC40: -6,28%.

    Great Britain. FTSE100: -8,35%.

    Italy. FTSE MIB: -2,01%.

    The fall leader in Germany is Deutsche Bank: -14,65%!



    3. Near East.

    Trading in shares of the Saudi oil company Aramco has been suspended.

    The Saudi index is down -8,84%. In we made a racket. Popcorn two bags, watch and enjoy. laughing
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 9 March 2020 15: 15
      +2
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      Asian sites closed. Europe Middle East opened:
      fellow wassat They shook them not weakly. good And oil is already "winning back". As expected, after the first explosion, they slowly shake themselves off. yes
    2. vladimirvn
      vladimirvn 9 March 2020 19: 03
      0
      Tomorrow the Moscow Exchange will open, our RTS will surpass any 2 times this figure.
  24. Maz
    Maz 9 March 2020 14: 27
    -1
    Forbes (USA): Russia has broken off one leg at the three-legged chair of the American shale industry
  25. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 9 March 2020 14: 29
    +4
    The financiers wanted to collapse the ruble exchange rate back in 2019. In view of the forecast, this was voiced by Gref. And finally, it was possible, as usual through oil. The airbags of the country's citizens and the overcrowded Fund, which is in rubles, will also depreciate. But when it disappeared somewhere, it means it arrived in another place. Along with the depreciation of the egg capsules of the population and the state, to the delight of the population, new dollar billionaires will appear. All this has already happened.
  26. Alexander X
    Alexander X 9 March 2020 14: 42
    -1
    I looked now in Yandex: oil 45,26. So how much is the cry of Yaroslavna? But the exchange rates are high. Question to the studio: what does our regulator do not extinguish speculative currency jumps?
    1. Sergey Ui
      Sergey Ui 9 March 2020 14: 50
      +5
      This is the price on Friday at the close of the MICEX, now the price is $ 35
    2. Aleksandr21
      Aleksandr21 9 March 2020 16: 13
      0
      Quote: Alexander X
      I looked now in Yandex: oil 45,26. So how much is the cry of Yaroslavna? But the exchange rates are high. Question to the studio: what does our regulator do not extinguish speculative currency jumps?


      45,26 price on March 6, Yandex slows down. But the price of Brent futures 35,16 at the moment and during March 9 fell to $ 31; now it has rebounded by 4 bucks, but I think not for long, $ 25-20 is only a matter of time.
      1. UserGun
        UserGun 9 March 2020 16: 47
        0
        Quote: Aleksandr21
        $ 25-20 is only a matter of time.


        Well, that’s the limit for shale oil. I think this will stop for a while. By the way, father really knew something))) When he screamed at the top of his lungs that he was ready to buy fuel oil at world prices))) Did he stir up all this mess ?! ))) Not even a month has passed ...
  27. Scipio
    Scipio 9 March 2020 14: 48
    +2
    Not a hunt to guess who is who and why, but I know one thing! If the Russian Federation has miscalculated and will play in this whole situation, then we, the people will grab problems, if the calculation is correct and the Russian Federation comes out the winner, then nothing will come of it from the people)
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  29. Dmitry_2
    Dmitry_2 9 March 2020 14: 52
    -4
    A couple of Houthis missiles will reach the goal and we will see the cost of 80, the war should be a war
  30. _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ 9 March 2020 14: 55
    +2
    however, the ruble is already being traded at 75
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  31. faterdom
    faterdom 9 March 2020 15: 01
    +2
    Return 95th to 40r. Like until March 18 of the 18th year. It seems like a good reason.
  32. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 9 March 2020 15: 03
    +3
    Prices from virtual-inflated come to real values. I wonder at what marks they will be fixed. And how it will digest the domestic market of individual countries. Indeed, many goods will cease to come from Asia to the European and American markets, and with import substitution programs they have a complete seam.

    ps: against this background (as I said), the service and entertainment sector will die, which will hit banks first ... the end of the death is drawn in cheerful tones of hyperinflation
  33. Po-tzan
    Po-tzan 9 March 2020 15: 58
    +2
    The expert called the situation on the oil market “a war declared by Saudi Arabia”


    But in the next article on VO they say that "such a strong drop in oil prices is associated with the OPEC + deal, or rather, with Russia's withdrawal from this deal" and praise the headmaster’s overpower, who outplayed everyone by making it so that "Russia broke off one leg of the three-legged chair of the American oil shale industry".
    Maybe you already decide between yourself - do we have a war against Russia or Putin’s mnogoghodovka provoked by the withdrawal of Russia from OPEC +?

    https://topwar.ru/168785-vpervye-s-nachala-90-h-ceny-na-neft-ruhnuli-pochti-na-tret.html#comment-id-10207229
  34. Chief Engineer
    Chief Engineer 9 March 2020 16: 00
    +3
    I congratulate everyone on the new global financial crisis in which only the fittest will survive.
  35. ZAV69
    ZAV69 9 March 2020 16: 08
    +3
    The ernation championship has begun. Everyone considers it his duty to be an oppressive unsubscribe. I strongly doubt that there will be at least 5 people in the forum who have specialized education and understand what is really happening.
  36. fa2998
    fa2998 9 March 2020 16: 09
    +3
    Quote: Balbes
    Putin has long been quietly whispering, let's get out of dollar addiction

    Even half-drunk President Yeltsin said “we have to get off the oil needle” - 20 years have passed and the horse hasn’t been lying around. The parade counts on the low value of oil prices at the time the price ends when the price falls. index income, but not enough for everyone. what hi
    1. Grim Reaper
      Grim Reaper 9 March 2020 17: 07
      +1
      Quote: fa2998
      Quote: Balbes
      Putin has long been quietly whispering, let's get out of dollar addiction

      Even half-drunk President Yeltsin said “we have to get off the oil needle” - 20 years have passed and the horse hasn’t been lying around. The parade counts on the low value of oil prices at the time the price ends when the price falls. index income, but not enough for everyone. what hi

      Yeltsin, not yet president of the Russian Federation, yelled at all corners: "Enough to drive oil with meter pipes
      The people were in favor!
      Ktozh knew what he meant to stop driving meter-high and start four-meter. Like this.
    2. Demon_is_ada
      Demon_is_ada 10 March 2020 00: 24
      -1
      Quote: fa2998
      "We must get off the oil needle" - 20 years have passed, and the horse has not been lying around.

      Andrei, this is all talk, getting off the oil, gas, energy needle is not realistic for us for a banal reason laughing while these products are the main ones in the world. Even if we are tense and with a willful decision to stop deliveries abroad, we will simply be asked, implored, bribed, blackmailed, threatened, etc., etc. because for the survival of the rest they simply need it, even the USSR supplied the enemies ... we are not animals recourse The resources of the Saudis begin to sing romances, the reserves are depleted, this will not happen soon, but in politics 20 years is a short time, in evolution it is an instant. The question is the distribution and proper investment of excess funds, which I actually have not yet observed from the word at all, but my own production of material goods should be completely autonomous, that is, pensions and other payments should be from collected taxes, and surpluses should be invested in projects for future, and to have fundamental importance while simplifying the life of the people.
      1. Victor N
        Victor N 10 March 2020 09: 30
        0
        Would you sit at home .....
  37. ximkim
    ximkim 9 March 2020 16: 42
    0
    Quote: Tatiana
    The expert called the situation on the oil market “a war declared by Saudi Arabia”

    I heard this news at 8:00 in the morning - I thought the same about SA.

    I remembered the events of the Soviet era when the Saudis, by agreement with the United States, lowered oil prices in exchange for modern scientific and technical technologies, and the economy of the USSR and the countries of the socialist camp rolled down.
    Now the exact same geopolitical PROXY-acceptance of the US strike on the Russian economy in the person of SA has been adopted.

    Even if there is a whisker. Conclusion: everything is lost, oil is to blame, everyone will be blamed on it.
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  40. Pastor
    Pastor 9 March 2020 17: 01
    +2
    All these games, no matter who the author, in our weak economy, are reflected in ordinary people. Although officially the ruble is underestimated, it doesn’t make me any easier. Inflation is only accelerating, and the promised compensations and raising the sn even do not block it. I think that coronovirus, the collapse of markets and other links in one chain of controlled chaos.
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  42. arsenks
    arsenks 9 March 2020 17: 03
    0
    I can't understand our government does not know how the Soviet Union collapsed ... Plus the coronavirus in China, but all this could have been predicted ... Who understands all this, but in the end Trump is good, and Putin ... ... No matter how I feel about the United States, but judging by the results for them the main power of the country, and not the personal enrichment of the "powers that be" ...
    1. Andrey VOV
      Andrey VOV 9 March 2020 18: 25
      0
      Who rules America? Well, very rich people, and they don’t care about the common man from Omaha, there’s no word at all, only the moments of the elections, everything is like everywhere and like ours
      1. fk7777777
        fk7777777 10 March 2020 06: 14
        0
        Who, who, Jewish clans professing Judaism, who else.
    2. fk7777777
      fk7777777 10 March 2020 06: 15
      0
      M, huh? Detroit, a clear confirmation of the "power" of the country, yeah, ...
  43. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 9 March 2020 17: 08
    +1
    Australia is forgotten, -7.4%. France -10.5% at the moment. If this is not a massive collapse of all markets, what is it?

    "The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!" Trump on February 24 (a few thousand points ago on the Dow)

    This is from comments on ZH:

    Coronavirus under absolute control in the United States. We are in constant contact with all and all involved countries. CDC & World Health work tirelessly, they are very professional. The stock market looks extremely good in my opinion! - Trump, Feb 24 (several thousand Dow points ago)

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/panic-purgatory-oil-crashes-27-sp-futu... laughing
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    2. Andrey VOV
      Andrey VOV 9 March 2020 18: 26
      -1
      Do you know what they think? Have you been to Mexico or Pakistan? So it’s better to be silent in a rag
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  47. Sotskiy
    Sotskiy 9 March 2020 19: 21
    0
    Currently, the Brent barrel is trading at $ 36,3.

    And how much is a liter of petrol traded at gas stations? Al he is tied to the dollar exchange rate and is bought because of the "hillock"? lol
  48. Awaz
    Awaz 9 March 2020 19: 26
    -3
    The development of any situation should be considered at some period of time ..
    You must understand that the Saudis work primarily for their masters. But they are also more dependent on expensive oil than the Russian Federation. Six months twitch and surrender.
    But the main provocateurs of the events that happened are speculators. But there, too, there are graters of their own, and if politics does not intervene, then soon all poorly poorly will find a balance.
  49. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 9 March 2020 20: 20
    +1
    Quote: vladimirvn
    Tomorrow the Moscow Exchange will open, our RTS will surpass any 2 times this figure.

    Bidding on the Russian stock exchange has not yet begun, but experts already know everything laughing
  50. ruben morelli
    ruben morelli 9 March 2020 20: 31
    -1
    Saudi Arabia is a faithful servant of the orders of Washington.