Victory has a female face

Victory has a female face

In the huge, boundless topic of the Great Patriotic War there are aspects that must be approached with the utmost delicacy and deliberation, so as not to turn them into occasions for further speculation and attempts to denigrate the sacred. One of such moments is the question of the participation in the events of those years of Soviet girls and women, their unparalleled heroism, the greatest military feat. It is necessary to talk about this so that the memory of our compatriots who have made an invaluable contribution to the Victory never fades.


Women officially awarded the high title of Hero of the Soviet Union officially number 95. Add to this four more who have become full holders of the Order of Glory. However, can only those representatives of the female half of the Soviet people who have been awarded high honors and titles be considered heroines? Any real man will agree that even one day of stay of those who are created for love, peace and the birth of children in the war zone, saturated with death and suffering, or even in the immediate vicinity of it, is already a feat.

The exact number of women who fought to this day remains the subject of controversy and, alas, speculation. Incidentally, the statement so beloved by Russian liberals that “the Germans did not throw their Frau under bullets” does not correspond to the truth in the least. The most plausible data seems to be about half a million women and girls who participated in the Great Patriotic War as part of the regular units and formations of the Red Army. At the same time, a huge number of those who fought with the enemy in the occupied territory in the ranks of the underground and partisan detachments are not even subject to approximate accounting.

Before the war, the fair sex, except for a few physicians and employees of household services, was not in the Red Army as such. And even after an enemy invasion fell on our Motherland, they were guarded from the front as much as possible. In 1941, military commissariats and district committees of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks and the Komsomol literally besieged tens of thousands of communists and Komsomol members, who demanded that they be sent immediately to fight the enemy. The military commanders who stood before this frantic pressure had to poke almost at the windows in some cases. Several thousand especially persistent, besides who had civilian specialties urgently needed in the troops (pilots, signalmen, doctors), nevertheless achieved their goal and went to war already in the first year of the Great Patriotic War.

The full-scale appeal of women in the Red Army began only in 1942. Fierce battles bleed the army so much that every soldier, and even more so an officer, was counted. Initially, the idea was to fill those regular positions with a weak sex that did not involve significant physical exertion, high risk, and increased training requirements. In the end, it turned out that women beat the Nazis almost on a par with men. Well, perhaps there were fewer of them in artillery or, say, armored forces. Though история remembers Maria Oktyabrskaya, driver tank "Fighting girlfriend." The list of Heroes of the Soviet Union is most likely to be pilots. What did the “Night Witches” alone cost, led by the creator of this legendary regiment, Marina Raskova, of the “Aryan supermen” to persistent insomnia and shameful drape. There were, however, female fighters, who were in no way inferior to the Asam men.

Snipers, gunners, air defense fighters, machine gunners and signalmen ... Nurses and medical officers who dragged fighters who weighed three times against them, and even with weapons. And sometimes they put aside the sanitary bag and grabbed the machine gun to save the wounded, whom the "European civilizers" with swastikas killed without the slightest hesitation. To prevent this, the medical instructor Valeria Gnarovskaya threw herself with grenades under the Nazi tank, trying to crush the tent with a red cross. Underground workers and partisans, liaisons, saboteurs, scouts ... How many of them remained completely unknown ?! Alas, far from all the names of those who, having gone through inhuman torture and bullying, in the instant of execution threw the executioners in the face: “Victory will be ours!”

We remember the names of Zoe Kosmodemyanskaya, Zina Portnova, Manshuk Mametova, Nina Onilova, Lyudmila Pavlichenko. We also remember hundreds of thousands of others whose names have not turned into symbols, but whose deeds have given us all the opportunity to live today. Their feat cannot be measured either by days spent on the front lines or by the number of enemies destroyed. It is impossible to measure it at all - for it is huge and eternal.
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  1. lucul 7 March 2020 17: 30 New
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    It is impossible to defeat the Russians by military means. Now all the enemy’s forces are concentrated on our women. In that sense, in terms of spiritual and moral degradation. And they have successes in this regard.
    1. Quasipatriot 7 March 2020 17: 38 New
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      Do not worry, now they are building 3 churches per day, in some ATMs of the Savings Bank appear. This means that they will intensely fight against lack of spirituality, immorality and other geyropeishchinoy. The officials will help, they know a lot about this matter, somehow some of them manage to have real estate in NATO countries, and some even citizenship. But at the same time they maintain spiritual morality and patriotism! Russia will win! Putin is with us!
      1. 7,62h54 7 March 2020 19: 20 New
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        God save the king!
        1. fox_rudy 8 March 2020 03: 16 New
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          Yes, great post!
      2. Paranoid50 8 March 2020 01: 11 New
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        Quote: Quasipatriot
        Do not worry,

        So the quasi-frizzy with a smell arrived in time. Meet on all branches: counterfeit ordinary.
      3. fox_rudy 8 March 2020 03: 14 New
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        Ah, you real quasi !!!
    2. Whalebone 7 March 2020 21: 42 New
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      Degrading under the onslaught of the TV?
    3. fox_rudy 8 March 2020 03: 13 New
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      And why, minus ??? Is this not true ????
  2. Tomich3 7 March 2020 17: 36 New
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    "By the way, the statement so beloved by Russian liberals that" the Germans did not throw their Frau under bullets, "does not correspond to the truth in the least." Well, declassify the archives that Putin has classified. And those women who, like my grandmother, worked in the rear, is this not considered a liberal?
    1. tihonmarine 7 March 2020 20: 35 New
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      Quote: Tomic3
      And those women who, like my grandmother, worked in the rear, is this not considered a liberal?

      And the partisans, like my mother, or the underground, who should they be considered?
      1. fox_rudy 8 March 2020 03: 19 New
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        You, for a start, carefully read the article !!!
  3. Amateur 7 March 2020 17: 39 New
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    Eternal glory and eternal memory.
    Ah war, what did you do, mean-spirited:
    Our yards have become quiet,
    Our boys raised their heads -
    They matured for the time being,
    On the doorstep barely loomed
    and they left, after the soldier - the soldier ...
    Good-bye, boys!
    Boys
    Try to go back.
    No, don't you hide, be tall
    Spare no bullets, no grenades
    And do not spare yourself, and yet
    Try to go back.

    Ah, the war, what are you, mean, did:
    instead of weddings - separation and smoke,
    Our girls dresses are white
    Give away their sisters.
    Boots - well, where do you get from them?
    Yes, green wings chase ...
    You spit on gossip girls.
    We will settle scores with them later.
    Let the chatter, that you do not believe in anything,
    That you go at random ...
    Goodbye girls!
    Girls,
    Try to go back.

    B.Sh. Okudzhava
    1. tol100v 7 March 2020 17: 56 New
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      Quote: Amateur
      Eternal glory and eternal memory.

      To our grandmothers and great-grandmothers, wives and daughters: Thank you!
    2. Far B 8 March 2020 06: 56 New
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      Any of those girls that after the battle crawled the wounded collected - the heroine. Of those that the car regulated flags. Such a war ... Could fly from anywhere. They knew about it. But they walked voluntarily.
  4. vvvjak 7 March 2020 17: 42 New
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    If my memory serves me, about 500 thousand women were demobilized only in 1945. So much more participated in the Second World War. Happy holiday to you, the best half of humanity and a low bow.
    1. DMB 75 7 March 2020 18: 23 New
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      Their feat cannot be measured either by days spent on the front lines or by the number of enemies destroyed. It is impossible to measure it at all - for it is huge and eternal.
      A low bow to them all. And who is at the front, and who is behind the Victory brought closer ..
  5. Cop
    Cop 7 March 2020 17: 51 New
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    Well, the author, your article is ideologically sustained, especially on the eve of the holiday, but it is very one-sided. Here I have for you Mr. Haraluzhny such a question, and what harm did the German army do, for example, Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya? She honestly did her duty. But the “iron shurik”, who sent people like her to death, died his death in a warm bed. I am the author to the fact that the heroism of Soviet women in the war is always stupidity, stupidity and betrayal .... of Soviet men. There is a wonderful book on this subject, the author of A. V. Drabkin, is called "And the Dawns Here Are Loud." I strongly advise you to read it.
    1. vvvjak 7 March 2020 18: 08 New
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      And what harm did the German army cause to the nurse or signalman? The rear workers didn’t kill a single German either.
      1. Basil50 7 March 2020 18: 59 New
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        the fact that some * sor * littered
        That's it.
        And then the reasoning - * and for what I ... in the face? *
        1. Cop
          Cop 7 March 2020 19: 53 New
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          Quote: Vasily50
          the fact that some * sor * littered
          Well then, "messed up" ...
          Quote: Vasily50
          That's it.
          Yes, like that. Judging by your post, just like you, on the eve of the war, "trends about little blood and foreign territory", and then ..... they were in the Uman pit and near Rawa Russkaya.
          Quote: Vasily50
          And then the reasoning - * and for what I ... in the face? *
          It’s not very long ago that there was a scandal connected with Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya. One Mr. expressed ... the idea that she was, let’s say so, not so much in herself, and supposedly therefore she didn’t feel pain. So Vasya, can you find this video, look, identify the person, and then find it and give it in ..... not weak?
          1. Paranoid50 8 March 2020 01: 22 New
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            Quote: Cop
            So Vasya, can you find this video, look, identify the person, and then find it and give it in ..... not weak?

            laughing It’s not good, child, to push the delay in time, and even by means of shallow provocation. Who does not know this little-cold Bilzhu? At that time, when your carcass was only in the draft, he was already broadcasting with might and main on TV, yeah. Once the uncle was a good specialist in his field, but there was a professional transformation, and the hop - the body from a doctor turned into a patient. yes And this schizoid movie was seen, and conclusions have long been made. So to beat him is only to get dirty.
            And it’s definitely not right to mutate a terminally ill patient - people like you will be the first to raise a howl. So past the checkout counter. And yes, there milk ran away from you, and it seems that it is burning - the smell is incredible. negative
            1. Cop
              Cop 8 March 2020 02: 14 New
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              Quote: Paranoid50
              ..... push the delay, and even through shallow provocation.
              But what about the slogan "Nobody is forgotten and nothing is forgotten"? A provocation is when ... a woman and in the face. You should know this with your experience.
              Quote: Paranoid50
              ... to beat him is only to get dirty.
              Understandably, let others ... get dirty. The act of the present ... gentleman ..... laughing
              Quote: Paranoid50
              .... the smell is incredible. negative
              Well, my smell is the smell of lavender compared to yours ... then. hi
        2. Basil50 8 March 2020 19: 39 New
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          Well, I'm talking about ....
          Mazel built a goat's face and blew it just as dirty, and then the indignation that there is a desire to give along this goat's face.
          It is very significant that all this is on the eve of a truly beautiful holiday on March 8.
      2. Cop
        Cop 7 March 2020 19: 41 New
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        Quote: vvvjak
        And what harm did the German army cause to the nurse or signalman?
        And what harm has already been done by the Red Army, those who called "Hilfswilliger"? Or were there no nurses or at least ... supporters?
        Quote: vvvjak
        The rear workers didn’t kill a single German either.
        And the workers of the rear, only already German (those whom the Germans hijacked to work in Germany), how many killed the Russians?
        PS: You'd better think about whose fault they were there.
        1. tihonmarine 7 March 2020 20: 48 New
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          Quote: Cop
          You better think about whose fault they were there.

          The logic is interesting, Hitler attacked the USSR, and is Stalin to blame, or didn’t I understand something?
          1. Cop
            Cop 8 March 2020 01: 11 New
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            Quote: tihonmarine
            The logic is interesting, Hitler attacked the USSR, and is Stalin to blame, or didn’t I understand something?
            I explain ... Just imagine, you are walking with a girl, telling her what you are
            strong and courageous and how willing to defend her even .. in someone else's territory. Suddenly two hooligans come up to you and stuff you ... a face, and then your girlfriend of this. You smearing snot, tears and blood run after your friends and in the place with them you drive these hooligans. Who do you think your girlfriend will be guilty of?
            1. fox_rudy 8 March 2020 03: 24 New
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              Your nickname corresponds to what is in your head !!!!
            2. Andrey VOV 10 March 2020 00: 03 New
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              So, you’re genetic trash, a moral character, a vile person, your hands are dry, since you write such an abomination, I don’t believe much, but you’ll be burned in hell, damn you
    2. Phil77 7 March 2020 18: 24 New
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      Valentine! My God, how wrong you are! Yes, they simply defended OUR MOTHERLAND! And what is the stupidity, stupidity and betrayal of Soviet peasants here?! They simply organically joined the ranks of the defenders of the country !!!! It's simple. Well, with the coming holiday Of course. But you are wrong, excuse me.
      1. 3x3zsave 7 March 2020 19: 24 New
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        My respect, Sergey! Some "kind-hearted man" was noted negatively under your comment. Eliminated the imbalance. hi
        1. Phil77 7 March 2020 19: 28 New
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          Mutually, mutually, Anton! But I would like to understand what I am wrong in his opinion.
          1. 3x3zsave 7 March 2020 19: 32 New
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            I think it's Valentine. It’s just that there are women, but there are husband-haters ...
            1. Phil77 7 March 2020 19: 34 New
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              All that remains is to wait for her answer. I think she has something to say.
              1. 3x3zsave 7 March 2020 19: 42 New
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                Oh yeah! Such persons always have something to say! Like in that old Odessa joke: "If a girl has milk and has time, why shouldn't she feed the baby ?!"
                1. Cop
                  Cop 7 March 2020 20: 24 New
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                  Quote: 3x3zsave
                  "If a girl has milk and has time, why not feed the baby ?!"
                  And, if you rephrase it a little, well, for example, like this: “If a young man has time and has a desire, then why should he not ... take a walk with the baby” ....
                  1. tihonmarine 7 March 2020 20: 51 New
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                    Quote: Cop
                    “If a young man has time and has a desire, then why not ... take a walk with the baby” ....

                    The young man earns money so that mom and baby walk.
                    1. 3x3zsave 7 March 2020 21: 17 New
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                      Thanks, buddy! hi
                    2. Cop
                      Cop 8 March 2020 01: 15 New
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                      Quote: tihonmarine
                      The young man earns money so that mom and baby walk.
                      And if he drinks beer with friends, then it turns out that mom needs to walk with the baby twice as long? Does this remind you of anything?
                  2. 3x3zsave 7 March 2020 21: 26 New
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                    And I walked. And rocked. And lullabies sang. And he told tales. And he was in the queue at the children's clinic at 5 am ... Have you decided to express your complaints against men based on your own life experience? So I have something to answer !!!
                    1. Cop
                      Cop 8 March 2020 01: 20 New
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                      Quote: 3x3zsave
                      Have you decided to express your complaints against men based on your own life experience?
                      So after all, all decisions at that time were made exclusively by men. And if their decisions were, as it were, to put it mildly, well, let's say not quite right, then aren't my claims fair?
                      Quote: 3x3zsave
                      So I have something to answer !!!
                      Well, answer ...
            2. Phil77 7 March 2020 21: 08 New
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              No Anton! It's not her. stop
              1. 3x3zsave 7 March 2020 21: 41 New
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                I don’t care !!! If a certain modern suffragist believes that my great-grandfather, who burned down in a tank near Voronezh, in the 41st, did not protect Soviet women, then let him go to the company with Greta Tunberg!
                1. Cop
                  Cop 8 March 2020 01: 27 New
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                  Quote: 3x3zsave
                  I don’t care !!! If a certain modern suffragist believes that my great-grandfather, who burned down in a tank near Voronezh, in the 41st, did not protect Soviet women, then let him go to the company with Greta Tunberg!

                  Do not worry so. I have no complaints about your grandfather. Without him, there are enough guilty in my opinion. My grandfathers also quite possibly burned out somewhere, at least the letters from the military registration and enlistment office read "missing."
        2. Phil77 7 March 2020 19: 32 New
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          As for Valentina’s comment (Sor), the girl expressed her opinion, right-wrong, everyone decides for himself. But I think I need to argue, object, and not anonymous * minuses *. hi
          1. 3x3zsave 7 March 2020 19: 52 New
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            Congratulations, Sergey! You have gained personal gremlin (an anonymous minuser). Welcome to our warm donor company!
            1. Phil77 7 March 2020 19: 55 New
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              And I’ve already counted two! And the alliance is not bad at all! laughing hi
              1. 3x3zsave 7 March 2020 20: 02 New
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                Phenomenally! I, here, still can’t count my own. However, they are changing ...
                1. mat-vey 8 March 2020 06: 47 New
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                  Quote: 3x3zsave
                  Phenomenally! I, here, still can’t count my own. However, they are changing ...

                  How long have you been counted among the saints and infallible?
                  Here everyone and "minus" and "plus."
                  Do you justify all your arithmetic signs in writing?
                  1. 3x3zsave 8 March 2020 06: 58 New
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                    Cons - yes, for the only minus is rudeness and insults.
                    1. mat-vey 8 March 2020 07: 07 New
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                      How interesting, and indiscriminate defamation of several generations by gender is rudeness or insult?
                      1. 3x3zsave 8 March 2020 07: 15 New
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                        If you have a desire to debate on the subject of network ethics, take the trouble to reduce the degree of sarcasm.
                      2. mat-vey 8 March 2020 07: 19 New
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                        Ehhh ... Sudar, do you think that such advice is like rudeness?
                        And yet - "indiscriminate defamation of several generations on the basis of sex is this rudeness or insult?"
                      3. 3x3zsave 8 March 2020 07: 24 New
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                        It seems, but in part, for it is a parry of the tonality you have taken. Thus, either we move into a more constructive channel of dialogue, or let me take your leave.
                      4. mat-vey 8 March 2020 07: 28 New
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                        E .. uh .. "Phenomenally." Although, to be honest, I did not count on a "constructive dialogue", given the "tonality" in your previous posts.
                      5. 3x3zsave 8 March 2020 07: 34 New
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                        The fact is that I was not going to comment on either the article or the discussion at all. Just supported the comrade.
                      6. mat-vey 8 March 2020 07: 38 New
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                        The fact is that if a commentator pours mud on the military and pre-war generation, he is a boor and a scoundrel. Regardless of gender. And regardless of whether he does this in a fit of feminism or simply out of stupidity.
                      7. 3x3zsave 8 March 2020 07: 43 New
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                        I agree with this. You know, the last hour I’m trying to figure out in which place it was I who allowed the “indiscriminate defamation” laughing
                      8. mat-vey 8 March 2020 07: 45 New
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                        Well, you’ll be rudeness and insults, but here you have come to defend. And why is the defender of rudeness and insults also offended by the minuses?
                      9. mat-vey 8 March 2020 07: 48 New
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                        Oh sorry, you really "answered" for the comrade.
                        Accept an apology.
                        This is a "comrade", not yours, but yours.
                      10. 3x3zsave 8 March 2020 07: 53 New
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                        That is, all this time you opposed not me, but Sergei (Phil77)? Well then, it happens ...
                      11. mat-vey 8 March 2020 07: 56 New
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                        Once again, sorry. It happens by mistake that comes close flies.
                        But this does not change the essence.
                      12. 3x3zsave 8 March 2020 08: 01 New
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                        Everything is in order, thank you for the conversation!
                      13. mat-vey 8 March 2020 08: 18 New
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                        Quote: 3x3zsave
                        Everything is in order, thank you for the conversation!

                        Such a "conversation" arose most likely due to the organization of building a branch on the site.
                        Although, yes it is necessary to take a closer look.
                  2. mat-vey 8 March 2020 08: 01 New
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                    "Yes, I do not care !!! If some modern suffragist believes that my great-grandfather, who burned down in a tank near Voronezh, in the 41st, did not protect Soviet women, then let him go to the company with Greta Tunberg!"

                    Here I just agree almost completely agree. Just a minus or plus is a matter of personal perception and does not need to be justified.
                  3. 3x3zsave 8 March 2020 08: 29 New
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                    Sorry, I do not agree on the subject of cons.
                  4. mat-vey 8 March 2020 08: 31 New
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                    Well then, again, "about the White bull", and you always decrypt your "-" after the "installation"?
                  5. 3x3zsave 8 March 2020 08: 46 New
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                    Again. The minus itself is extremely rare, only in the cases described by me, when the argumentation of my attitude to any statement is not required. That is, if someone begins to doubt the mental abilities of the interlocutor, while not going beyond the bounds of decency, then in my understanding this is not a reason for the minus. But when directly calls "half-wit", then yes.
                  6. mat-vey 8 March 2020 08: 53 New
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                    There is no need to minus (or is it necessary?), And press the "complaint" button .... although the taste and color ..
                  7. 3x3zsave 8 March 2020 09: 03 New
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                    You see, I came to the site when there were no minuses, there were only pluses. Thus, a dissatisfied with any statement had to “Vollen-Nolens” to verbalize their negative emotions or “be silent in a rag." Intemperate language was screened out in an "eternal ban."
                  8. mat-vey 8 March 2020 09: 06 New
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                    Yasno. Then they probably decided to add "pungency".
                  9. 3x3zsave 8 March 2020 09: 12 New
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                    And note, I didn’t put any cons to the user “Sor”, I simply outlined my position regarding her statements.
                  10. mat-vey 8 March 2020 09: 15 New
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                    And I, excuse me the supporter of equal political rights and duties.
                  11. 3x3zsave 8 March 2020 09: 38 New
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                    This is your right, especially as enshrined in the Constitution.
                2. Phil77 8 March 2020 09: 29 New
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                  Here, here, Anton! I argued with the girl, convinced. Then I even respected for sincerity. But to the * minuses * to slide down? No, thank you!
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                  In general, I had no doubt.
                4. mat-vey 8 March 2020 09: 53 New
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                  Quote: Phil77
                  Here, here, Anton! I argued with the girl, convinced. Then I even respected for sincerity. But to the * minuses * to slide down? No, thank you!

                  So you are against gender equality? repeat
                5. Phil77 8 March 2020 10: 15 New
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                  Matvey! Well, what are you entitled to? I am against anonymous minusers. I love an open dialogue and exchange of opinions. We are exactly going to do this here?
                6. mat-vey 8 March 2020 10: 17 New
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                  This will not happen here.
                7. Phil77 8 March 2020 10: 21 New
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                  Who knows? Maybe they will return to what it was, as Anton writes. I understand there is a personal hostility to the opponent, well, express everything directly and openly! What is so terrible in this?
                8. mat-vey 8 March 2020 10: 25 New
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                  It seems to me there are already too many "professional opponents on a given topic." In other matters, as elsewhere.
                9. Phil77 8 March 2020 10: 27 New
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                  Human psychology. It’s easier to press * - * stupidly than to try to prove your case. Well ... or disagreement.
                10. mat-vey 8 March 2020 10: 32 New
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                  Well, sometimes it just doesn’t make sense to “prove”, the uselessness of proof is simply visible to the naked eye. And you will start to prove, only in humanity you will be disappointed.
              2. 3x3zsave 8 March 2020 11: 01 New
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                Not without it. Like in the Soviet cartoon: "But Baba Yaga, against!"
              3. mat-vey 8 March 2020 14: 58 New
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                It doesn’t happen, but it’s extremely rare. It sometimes just turns out that the whole branch should be “evaluated”. Maybe, of course, it is not necessary, but if you started, then you can also aggravate.
              4. Phil77 8 March 2020 17: 13 New
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                Matvey! My friend! Now I’m right to get drunk on brandy! I’ll suck myself up and feed the cat! Yes, and how will I give the pretties !!!!!!! Give ** the Titanic *** a look and sob, right!
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              Anton !!! That moment is coming! Iceberg !!!! ¡!!
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              Gentlemen, comrades, what do you, dear ones, think about this catastrophe? My opinion is to blame Captain Smith.
      2. 3x3zsave 8 March 2020 10: 45 New
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        Do not come back. VO-Media is a commercial project. You can compare tax returns for 2017-2018, they are in the public domain (in 2017 there were no minuses). The presence of minuses increases the "clickability" of the resource. Clicks - Popularity - Advertisers - Loot. Nothing personal just business. Yes, and he "perepil" the site is worth the money.
      3. Phil77 8 March 2020 10: 55 New
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        Anton! Is it really right to say that money is evil ????? I'm sad .... Irony, if that .. no
      4. 3x3zsave 8 March 2020 10: 58 New
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        Giving and taking money, I always say "thank you" For money is evil, but it is better with them! laughing
      5. Phil77 8 March 2020 11: 01 New
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        Bravo! But it’s possible in another way: * Money? This is minted freedom. * Someone of those smart and great said this.
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        Yeah, but "democracy is the rules of conduct agreed upon by well-armed gentlemen."
      7. Phil77 8 March 2020 11: 31 New
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        Colt is our argument? bully
      8. 3x3zsave 8 March 2020 11: 41 New
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        Hmm, if Matroskin had a “colt”, and not just a “mustache, paws and tail,” Pechkin would hardly have persisted with the package, and an article about robbing a mail stagecoach (bicycle) appeared in the magazine Murzilka.
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        Then the link between Matroskinin, “Once a cowboy, two cowboys” and Murlakotam is a cow, sometimes a fighting one.

        All the lovely young ladies - Happy Holiday!
      10. bubalik 8 March 2020 12: 10 New
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        Today

        ,,,is not a fact no
        ,,, special facility “Clinic” conducts experiments on animals, the postman Pechkin is associated with the “Clinic” and is not surprised to meet talking animals behaving like sentient beings. As a KGB agent, Pechkin has the right not to engage the police, but to act in accordance with his instructions.
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        Or maybe this Pechkin is in a special clinic? wassat
      12. bubalik 8 March 2020 12: 19 New
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        ,,, cartoon "in the world of the mad"what
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        Like, based on the "Island of Dr. Moreau"
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        the motives of "Island of Dr. Moreau"

        ,,, and Sharik is a talking dog, perfectly wielding a weapon that can wither away without hunting, a combat modification of a dog, he needs regular sublimation of his fighting instinct.
      15. Phil77 8 March 2020 12: 37 New
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        Question: And in St. Petersburg, where is Chamber 6? Why did I mention Kashirka? It's no secret that it was there that the special unit was located for some KGB officers.
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        I think on nab. R. Moika 126, aka Buckle, the oldest psychiatric hospital in the city.
      17. Phil77 8 March 2020 13: 02 New
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        The bottom line is that when we moved to Biryulyovo, there were two buses from the metro from * Kashirskaya * and these two buses 221 and 245 stopped precisely at 15.
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    Kashirka, house 15?
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    This is in Moscow. In St. Petersburg - "Buckle" and "Birdhouse".
  8. mat-vey 8 March 2020 14: 59 New
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    The presence of minuses increases the "clickability" of the resource.

    And I mean the same thing.
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    The basics of online business. The times of altruism, enthusiasm and FIDO have sunk into oblivion, along with IBM486. Some, like "mail", even for comments require money
  10. mat-vey 8 March 2020 16: 00 New
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    EE universal monetization leads to degradation .. laughing
  11. 3x3zsave 8 March 2020 16: 42 New
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    I agree. People stopped believing in emotional outbursts. About a year ago, he helped a person start a car, simply “lit” it, he began to poke money, almost in response to the “scoreboard” he did not put it in, scammed it and left.
  12. mat-vey 8 March 2020 16: 44 New
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    Here the parable about a broom begs.
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    Remind please?
  14. mat-vey 8 March 2020 16: 51 New
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    One old man had three sons. And they could not get along together. The old man really wanted his sons to live in peace after his death. He decided to teach them this.

    One day, my father called them to him and asked to break a broom in half. At first, the eldest son tried, but no matter how hard he tried, nothing worked. The same failures befell the middle and junior. Then the father untied a broom, and asked each son to break several straws. This, of course, they easily succeeded.

    Then the father said:

    - That's also in life. If you are together, then no one will break you, and individually, it is also easy to defeat you, as well as breaking a couple of straws.
  15. 3x3zsave 8 March 2020 16: 57 New
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    Some do not understand the analogies. Explain if not difficult?
  16. mat-vey 8 March 2020 17: 03 New
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    All these monetization are shared by people, each is locked in its own shell and very difficult to unite with um fellow citizens. And disunity is a very bad thing for any crisis situation. Which in the current situation leads directly to fascism.
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    Community on any ideological basis is also not a "path but a bright tomorrow."
  18. mat-vey 8 March 2020 19: 20 New
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    What does anyone mean?
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    Any human community gives birth to a leader, the leader seeks authoritarianism, the desire for authoritarianism gives rise to the "institution" of Companions who suppress dissent.
  20. mat-vey 8 March 2020 19: 44 New
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    Ek everything is global .. I do not discuss such topics on such dubious resources (although there are others) ... and the keyboard will be erased.
  21. Phil77 8 March 2020 10: 24 New
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    And to your direct question, regarding equality. Why did you get the idea that I am against? Not at all. I am for it! But not today, today, women are the queen of nature of our mother! laughing
  22. mat-vey 8 March 2020 10: 26 New
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    This is precisely today, on the day of the struggle for equal political rights. wink
  23. Phil77 8 March 2020 10: 33 New
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    So it is, but ..... We just love them!
  24. mat-vey 8 March 2020 10: 38 New
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    So I’m not from your company))), I don’t love all women anymore. I just perceive them as travel companions on the planet Earth. Excuse me, but it happened, it turned out - about a person for business, not for gender. .
  25. Phil77 8 March 2020 10: 44 New
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    Dear Matvey, don’t take my words so literally, well, just on March 8th. Here and pulls, something nice for the ladies to write. personal qualities.
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    Yes, I realized, it's so grumbling ...)
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    today the women are the queen of nature of our mother!

    Kosomolets, love your motherland.
  28. Phil77 8 March 2020 10: 35 New
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    Uh, no, they wrote differently! * Take care of your mother-nature *.
  29. Phil77 8 March 2020 07: 57 New
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    Oh! Duel here? laughing * Swords in the scabbard, gentlemen! Swords in the scabbard! *.
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    Good morning, Sergey! This is not a duel, but an exchange of views. I am not at all inclined toward swordplay. Only tank wedges and carpet bombing, as the great Pendalf bequeathed! laughing
  31. Phil77 8 March 2020 08: 13 New
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    Good morning Anton! I drove to the * hat * analysis. The reason is respectful, I congratulated the lovely ladies on the next branch. So where your opponent saw rudeness and disrespect in my comments, I confess to bewilderment.
  32. 3x3zsave 8 March 2020 08: 25 New
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    The friend below answered you.
    Tip: if you are writing from a mobile device, try to hold your finger on "b", it should turn out "b".
  33. Phil77 8 March 2020 08: 32 New
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    Either I haven’t woken up yet, or the answer is convoluted! As before, I am at a loss. I’ve got it !!!! Thanks! hi
  34. 3x3zsave 8 March 2020 08: 49 New
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    You're welcome!
  35. Salty 8 March 2020 08: 34 New
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    * Swords in the scabbard, gentlemen! Swords in the scabbard! *

    Correctly. There is no need for swords, "Dobrynya, sprinkle it with chalk!" laughing
  36. Phil77 8 March 2020 11: 04 New
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    Word! Word! Dear SaltY, it is known to be sharper than a sword! laughing
  37. Salty 8 March 2020 11: 08 New
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    Word! Word!

    Yes, at first it was the word. The club and chalk appeared later. laughing
  38. Phil77 8 March 2020 11: 13 New
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    Well, the club is also an argument! And powerful ... But, in the modern world the word is more important, though? For the Yankees, the club is the most popular type of rightness / them /.
  39. Salty 8 March 2020 11: 15 New
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    Well the club is also an argument! And powerful ...

    And sometimes the only one. Unfortunately, not everyone understands a simple kind word.
  40. Phil77 8 March 2020 11: 21 New
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    Damn! Guys! My wife, leaving the service, posed a number of tasks for me, sinful, and I? Hang / hang / on my favorite site, chat with friends, drink cognac / brandy / instead ..... yes! Instead perform these tasks! * From the fence to dinner *.
  41. 3x3zsave 8 March 2020 11: 33 New
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    "So Cinderella didn’t get to the ball" laughing
  42. Phil77 8 March 2020 11: 38 New
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    But what kind of ball is there? Although? How is it, this bearded one? * For lovely ladies, for lovely ladies .... *. Shafutinsky, oh !!! In a word, the waiting mode.
  43. Phil77 8 March 2020 12: 01 New
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    You know, Anton, I’m waiting for the appearance of Valentina / Sor /. Why? But there is no explanation, the fuse is that, frankly and from her point of view, she directly and honestly explained and argued her position. I respect. Rarity.
  44. 3x3zsave 8 March 2020 12: 05 New
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    Well, I didn’t notice any particular arguments there, gender offenses are predominantly.
  45. Phil77 8 March 2020 12: 08 New
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    Uh, no! And you read her older comments. Worthy person!
  46. 3x3zsave 8 March 2020 12: 32 New
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    Maybe. However, I also have certain tasks for today. Here I’ll hang out for another 10-15 minutes and go to “finish” the estimate for the current object. For “the days of his wickedness prevail,” which in common parlance means: love comes and goes, but you always want to eat.
  47. Phil77 8 March 2020 12: 41 New
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    Ha, ha, ha! Today and tomorrow I have one estimate, one wife !!!!! Who will envy anyone? Or vice versa ????
  48. 3x3zsave 8 March 2020 12: 43 New
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    I'm not envious request
  49. Phil77 8 March 2020 12: 46 New
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    But I'm envious, I envy those who are 20-25 years old !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But this is white envy, alas!
  50. 3x3zsave 8 March 2020 12: 45 New
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    Oh, my gremlin woke up!
  51. Phil77 8 March 2020 12: 48 New
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    Maybe sleeping pills to him ????
  52. Phil77 8 March 2020 12: 54 New
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    And better than sulfazine, as experts say: that's it !!!
  53. 3x3zsave 8 March 2020 13: 03 New
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    I don’t care! Let him have fun, unlike him, I have enough communication with smart and good people, and the dwarf comes with anger in solitude.
  54. Phil77 8 March 2020 13: 06 New
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    Tip-score !!!! And communicate with us, with a * filibuster * alliance! How?
  55. Phil77 8 March 2020 16: 00 New
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    Anton! My friend, there’s * Titanic * now, this is the topic where I AM ALL! ¡!
  56. 3x3zsave 8 March 2020 16: 11 New
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    Sergei! Well, I'm punk yernik and miserable! Well, how not to fast here?!?!
    “A huge cruise ship is floating across the ocean. A captain enters the first-class cabin and announces:
    - Ladies and gentlemen, I have two news: good and bad. Which first?
    -Sir, let's get the bad one.
    -We will all die tonight!
    -What is good?
    -We are claiming 12 Oscars !!! "

    Sincerely, I apologize!
  57. Phil77 8 March 2020 16: 16 New
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    Titanic! Titanic? Well, just my topic, alas!
  58. 3x3zsave 8 March 2020 16: 31 New
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    Sergey, once again I apologize if some kind of soul strings hit a hippo movement. My topic is Blockade.
  59. Phil77 8 March 2020 16: 47 New
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    My friend! The blockade is not only yours! But the battle of Moscow? Is the work of Muscovites? And the blockade, Stalingrad, and Kursk, and all this is ours! Common !!!!! ¡!!
  60. Phil77 8 March 2020 16: 51 New
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    I’ll say more! It was not a blockade of one city! Excuse me, sorry! But with you, Petrograd residents, was our whole country !!!!! And Moscow too !!!!
  61. Phil77 8 March 2020 16: 55 New
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    A * Titanic *? This is so!? For myself. But the Blockade! But the battle of Moscow! Yes!
  62. mat-vey 8 March 2020 15: 09 New
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    Quote: 3x3zsave
    Well, I didn’t notice any particular arguments there, gender offenses are predominantly.

    Moreover, offenses based on their own fantasies.
  63. Phil77 8 March 2020 16: 58 New
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    Matvey? Again you? What insults can there be between Petersburgers and Muscovites? I’ll answer eternal, but ... solved!; !!
  64. mat-vey 8 March 2020 17: 06 New
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    This is again not at your expense, now you are already confused)
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    sipping brandy / brandy / instead ..... yes! instead of performing these tasks
    ,, after drinking strong drinks, it’s better to postpone the tasks assigned to you, to avoid violation of TK and the possibility of subsequent sanctions laughing
  66. Salty 8 March 2020 11: 45 New
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    after drinking strong drinks, it’s better to postpone the tasks assigned to you

    10. Put the drunk up carefully so as not to damage, and would not interfere with dancing. Folded separately, observing the floor, otherwise when you wake up, you won’t be confused.
  67. Phil77 8 March 2020 11: 52 New
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    Damn it! Do not wait !!! laughing laughing laughing
  68. Phil77 8 March 2020 11: 45 New
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    Seryoga !!! Friend !!!!! How are you doing with the computer? Cured? Glad! And here we are fighting, Anton, we are fighting, talking, talking. But there are no filibusters ?!
  69. Korsar4 8 March 2020 13: 16 New
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    “Did you order a carpet?”
    Well, so I pinned him ”(c).
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    "Two daughters-in-law - on the carpet" (C)
  71. Korsar4 8 March 2020 14: 44 New
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    “Leo is halva.
    Monkey - gingerbread ”(c).
  72. 3x3zsave 8 March 2020 14: 50 New
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    "Where did the sparrow dine?
    In the zoo at the animals "(c)
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    "Or maybe dinner
    Quietly gathered "(c).
  74. 3x3zsave 8 March 2020 18: 55 New
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    "The crow croaked, all the raven throats,
    Cheese has fallen out. Such was the cheat with him. "(C)
    Classics of the genre
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    "A fool doesn’t need a knife -
    You’re lying to him from three baskets, -
    And do with him what you like "(c).
  76. Phil77 8 March 2020 13: 21 New
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    A fierce battle is conducted by an ice squad, we believe in the courage of guys !!!
  77. Phil77 8 March 2020 13: 23 New
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    *Coward does not play hockey
    Tru doesn't play hockey!
  78. Phil77 8 March 2020 13: 31 New
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    Well guys, they got it up! Hockey is sacred !!!!!! laughing Well it was, it was once. .... And what ??? Phil, Phil is .... forever, as it were.
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    Crazy chamber! Torpedoes! laughing
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    "While changing the bucket, the Soviet athlete is warming up with red wine"
  81. Phil77 8 March 2020 13: 14 New
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    Soviet athlete, it sounds Proud !!! ¡This is not some, God forbid, ESPOSITO !!!!!
  82. Phil77 8 March 2020 12: 13 New
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    I await your reply.
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    Seryoga! You again went to the periscope depth! Sorry.
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    Yeah! And here is the reason for the presence! And where was rudeness on my part? hi
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    "The fact is, if the commentator spills mud on the military and pre-war generation, he is a boor and a scoundrel. Regardless of gender. And regardless of whether he does this in a fit of feminism or just out of stupidity."
    It’s just that there’s no point in arguing with such people - the truth will not be born anyway. Just “-” is all.
    Everything was only because of the "requirements of the" justification "-", but initially an error crept into the "cards of the General Staff" and the wrong meanings appeared in the "dialogue".
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    As for Valentina’s comment (Sor), the girl expressed her opinion, right-wrong, everyone decides for himself. But I think I need to argue, object, and not anonymous * minuses *. hi

    Thanks Phil, you are probably the only one who at least tried to understand me.
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    Valentine! My God, how wrong you are! Yes, they simply defended our homeland!
    Yes they did. And what could they do if no one defended them?
    Quote: Phil77
    They simply organically joined the ranks of the country's defenders !!!!
    Yes ...., the author told you: "The full-scale appeal of women in the Red Army began only in 1942." Did they fit in there for organic? The author and I, too, think differently ...: "Initially, the idea was to fill those regular positions with weak sex that do not involve significant physical exertion, high risk and increased training requirements."
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    Well, with the upcoming holiday, of course.
    Thank you!
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      No, are you serious? Yes, the girls voluntarily rushed to the front !!! You read the memoirs of women who went through the war. And where does the thesis that no one defended them ?! The trouble came, the trouble is common! And you don’t have to separate it by gender sign, please! The same Kravtsova / below in the photo / wrote as many as 7 books, of which 4. can be safely called memoirs. Read!
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        Quote: Phil77
        Yes, the girls voluntarily rushed to the front !!!
        Yes you are right, there were many volunteers. But the author says, a large-scale appeal of women was in 1942.
        Quote: Phil77
        You read the memoirs of women who went through the war.
        I read, for example, Drabkin A. V. "And the dawns here are loud." And I advise you to read this book.
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        And where does the thesis that no one defended them ?!
        Did they protect them? Why then do not talk about it?
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        Misfortune has come, common misfortune! And don’t have to separate it by gender, please!
        Yes, it’s a disaster, but if you don’t talk about it and name the perpetrators of it, then it will come again.
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          Valentine! Well, you read the documents of that era given by Sergei below. It says everything, who, where, and how to call! And again, great: defended! defended with all their strength and capabilities! But this is the initial stage of the war, understand !!!! Who is to blame? You know? Decide and think for yourself!
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            Valentine! Well, you read the documents of that era given by Sergei below. It says everything, who, where, and how to call! And again, great: defended! defended with all their strength and capabilities! But this is the initial stage of the war, understand !!!! Who is to blame? You know? Decide and think for yourself!

            Thank you, I read the documents, it is true that it is voluntary in the era of the USSR, I know very well ... :). You know Phil (let me call you that, I hope you don’t be offended), I read a book called Thunderstorm vs. Barbarossa. And so it hurt me that we started this war so stupidly. But you could start it in a different way. Therefore, I personally would like that those who were guilty of this would suffer at least moral punishment, since they are no longer alive.
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          You know, Valentina. You evoke serious respect in me! What? Yes, by honestly and openly expressing your point of view, Right-Wrong, everyone decides for himself. But honesty is worth it! Thank you for an interesting dialogue! Once again with the upcoming happy holiday to you! love love good
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            You know, Valentina. You evoke serious respect in me! What? Yes, by honestly and openly expressing your point of view, Right-Wrong, everyone decides for himself. But honesty is worth it! Thank you for an interesting dialogue! Once again with the upcoming happy holiday to you! love love good

            Thank you again for your support ... :).
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      The full-scale appeal of women in the Red Army began only in 1942. " Did they fit in there for organic? The author and I, too, think differently ...: “Initially, the idea was to fill those regular positions with weak sex that do not involve significant physical exertion, high risk and




      1. Phil77 7 March 2020 20: 26 New
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        Greetings Sergey! This is what the documents of that time say! In the latter, the key word is on a voluntary basis. So?
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          Today, 21

          ,,, theoretically, women joined the army voluntarily, in practice it was different.

          * the computer is broken, with the "slipper" is not conveniently deployed com. write *
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            ,,, theoretically, women joined the army voluntarily, in practice it was different.

            So after all, what time it was ..... thunderous! From here and in different ways.
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      Yes they did. And what could they do if no one defended them?

      I don’t know how to look at it, but my mother, who lived in the Smolensk region, went into partisans herself in 1943, and ended up with a partisan parade in Minsk. You were few of them, but they went and fought for their homeland, and in the partisans it was much harder than in the Red Army. Here is my mother’s certificate, but only for the Belarusian partisan movement.
      Kingdom to you Heaven Elena Vasilievna.
      1. Collective farm 7 March 2020 22: 00 New
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        My grandmother Maria Vasilievna Averyanova went through a war signalist has a medal for courage now she is ninety-six years old in our area is the only living participant in the Second World War on the occasion of all women!
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        Quote: tihonmarine
        I don’t know how to look at it, but my mother, who lived in the Smolensk region, went into partisans herself in 1943, and ended up with a partisan parade in Minsk. You were few of them, but they went and fought for their homeland, and in the partisans it was much harder than in the Red Army.
        Your mother deserves all kinds of honors. And what was my grandmother to do? She had three small children in her arms, the oldest, my mother was 6 years old. So we got to the camp. Or do you think that she should have joined the partisans with them? And then, having matured more than once, I had to fill out questionnaires in which there was a column "Did you or your relatives live in the occupied territories". Isn't that humiliation?
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          And then, having matured more than once, I had to fill out questionnaires in which there was a column "Did you or your relatives live in the occupied territories".

          Here you are right! There was, there was such a graph in the questionnaires! I myself filled it out repeatedly. Once again on the occasion of you! love
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          Your mother deserves all kinds of honors. And what was my grandmother to do? She had three small children in her arms, the oldest, my mother was 6 years old.

          And what was my grandmother to do when my mother went to the partisans, and also three small children. The oldest Kostya is 16 years old, the commandant took to serve in the police, and said "not us, so yours will come and hang you all." Grandmother gave the potatoes and said, “Go son east” and he went with a friend whose sister also went into the partisans. He survived, fought, reached Prague, the youngest aunt valia died. But then I wrote in the questionnaires, my father served in the Red Army since the Finnish war, my mother was in the partisan movement. And there were never problems.
    4. Phil77 8 March 2020 13: 49 New
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      Valya! Perhaps you are one of those who did not understand ??
  • tihonmarine 7 March 2020 20: 43 New
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    I am the author to the fact that the heroism of Soviet women in the war is always stupidity, stupidity and betrayal .... of Soviet men.

    Yes, we are not the people who sit in the corners, if the enemy came, then we get up young and old, and men and women and children, could we not watch the enemy trample on our land, or did you forget about it? Penny to you the price of Valentine.
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      Quote: tihonmarine
      did you forget about it?
      Well, why, I remember.
      Quote: tihonmarine
      Penny to you the price of Valentine.
      It is worthless to those for whom the citizen of their country was so expendable on the way to a bright future.
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        Quote: Cop
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Penny to you the price of Valentine.

        Do not take it to heart, inadequate, we’ll call it so, it’s enough everywhere, unfortunately, they are also present on this military site. The mobilization of women in the great war is, alas, a necessity. By no means at the forefront, of course, but in all sorts of auxiliary services, supplies, rear services, which will allow more efficient use of the male resource. Once again, let me congratulate you on the holiday and wish you all the best.
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      Penny to you the price of Valentine.

      ??? No need to scatter these words, especially in relation to a woman who defends her position. Who is worth what is determined only in battle. And by no means pathetic speeches.
  • Astra wild 7 March 2020 21: 45 New
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    Colleague Sor, you have a SOR in the HEAD. Can you REAL documents confirm what you say about Dzerzhinsky?
    I’m not that naive sheep who believes in a fairy tale whoever tells it. And I know that in the Cheka there were a lot of bastards and even those in the SNK were present such as Trotsky or Sverdlov, and how many were in the field. They thoroughly compromise the party and the Cheka, but Dzerzhinsky cannot be blamed for selfishness or sadism. So you were mistaken.
    1. Phil77 8 March 2020 08: 25 New
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      Dear Vera, Happy Holiday! Happiness, love and good luck! But let me curiosity, and what does Felix Edmundovich have to do with this topic? recourse
      1. Phil77 8 March 2020 15: 47 New
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        And Trotsky, and this one like him? Sverdlov?
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        Yes and whether it is necessary ????
  • alstr 7 March 2020 22: 08 New
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    Actually, war is a difficult thing. And on it is the heroism of someone (it doesn’t matter whether this is a man or a woman) - this is someone else’s mistake or miscalculation.

    At 16, my grandmother voluntarily left as a nurse in a hospital.
    And she returned only in the 46th with two wounds and a medal "For Courage".

    And if we remember about women, then let's remember about children who performed their exploits. And these are not only hero pioneers who were glorified in the USSR, but also tens and hundreds of thousands of others, about which we know very little.
    Just for reference. About 40 thousand were awarded with the medals "For the Defense of Leningrad" and "For the Defense of Moscow". And how many were left without rewards?
    Or more. Take the Jung school on Solovki. Of the 3 military issues, only 4111 people lost a third.
    about 200 people were awarded orders and medals. one became a Hero of the USSR.

    As for the article, unfortunately, women who fought after the war had their own problems.
    Firstly, their feat was hushed up. Well, it wasn’t customary to stick it out especially. By the way, most likely due to the fact that men could not cope on their own.
    Secondly, many (even war veterans) considered them, let’s say so, easily accessible. It was very annoying for them.
  • Gardamir 7 March 2020 17: 57 New
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    The author is blaspheming. After all, these women are communist and Komsomol members! How can one write such articles in a country that hates everything Soviet? Well, nothing. The Mausoleum will again be covered with rags. Here you have the Victory!
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      Quote: Gardamir
      How can one write such articles in a country that hates everything Soviet? Well, nothing. The Mausoleum will again be covered with rags. Here you have the Victory!

      The fact is that the states of the USSR and the Russian Federation are antagonists, in other words, ideological and actual enemies, this fact is carefully hushed up. Victory for the bourgeoisie is the same product that can be monetized, like oil, gas, wood and more.
      Now the Victory Day has been turned into a popular show, which has little in common with the Soviet people on German Nazism on Victory Day. But against all odds
      -------------- Our Soviet Women -Warriors, Women-Workers, Women-Winners-Eternal Glory !!!
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        -Our Soviet Women -Warriors, Women-Workers, Women-Winners-Eternal Glory !!!
        I agree one hundred percent!
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          Thank you for that !!
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      Gardamir colleague, let me partially disagree with you: Zina Portnova, for example, was not yet a communist or Komsomol member, and there were many who were not yet in the party by age. And in the partisan detachments were non-partisan women. And on the collective farms, that there were only communists and Komsomol members?
      ALL who cherished the Motherland fought with the Nazis!
      P
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      I would prefer that the Mausoleum not be curtained, but to allow traitors to climb the rostrum of the Mausoleum !!
      Let us hope that this disgrace will soon end.
  • knn54 7 March 2020 18: 07 New
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    Victory has yes. But war has no.
    And we remember the home front workers who replaced the fathers, brothers, husbands, sons, who went to the front, at the machine tool.
    Happy Holiday, our beloved,
  • Paul Siebert 7 March 2020 18: 32 New
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    Look at this photo of brave girls - pilots.
    What a beautiful inspirational face!
    A people whose beauty of women and fearlessness of men are one expression of an irresistible will to win is invincible!
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  • Rusfaner 7 March 2020 18: 52 New
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    One of the female faces of Victory.
    As you imagine, what they got at the front, the heart is compressed!
    Happy Holiday, our dear and beloved!
    God grant you never sip a war and always wait for your men!
    1. Phil77 7 March 2020 19: 45 New
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      In the photo Kravtsova / Meklin / Natalya Fedorovna? ​​I was not mistaken? hi
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        You were not mistaken, this is Natalya Fedorovna Kravtsova
        But Irina Fedorovna Sebrova, who set a peculiar aviation record, not yet beaten by anyone. From May 1942 to May1945, she made 10026 sorties, of which 1004 were night sorties for the bombing of enemy troops


  • Petrol cutter 7 March 2020 20: 21 New
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    Our ladies, these are ladies! You look at the photo. I admire these comrades. Each is a poem.
    Now the people have become smaller of course ... And right before our eyes.
    But still managed to catch.
    When a little sunburned in the compartment, and howled during bandaging (periodically fainting). A simple ordinary woman (with the proud name of Svetlana) calmly did her job.
    For this, I fiercely appreciate and respect her. And the rest of the right ladies bother.
    Happy fellow women. love
  • ruben morelli 7 March 2020 20: 53 New
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    Eternal glory to the heroines of the USSR. !!
  • Astra wild 7 March 2020 21: 04 New
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    Here on the site I read about Litvyak the “white lily”, when I read it, she cried: she was afraid of the “abyss” and it happened.
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    I almost burst into tears.
  • Vladimir Mashkov 7 March 2020 21: 19 New
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    There were many women patriots in the USSR. They sincerely wholeheartedly loved the Fatherland and sacrificed many. I remember one of them, who graduated from high school and worked as a girl in the Second World War at a machine tool in the Urals, remembering the war, she always cried ... Many modern ... women do not understand them !!!
  • Assyrian 7 March 2020 23: 01 New
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    Thanks to the author of the article !!!!!! The war was a huge disaster for the whole people. For women, men, children, the elderly, they drank everything. Both at the front and in the rear, someone more, someone less, saved their home from the invasion of disaster.
    After 75 years, we can say with firm confidence that all who defended their homes are heroes.
    And all who from now on are trying to judge the events of that time, to look for flaws, mistakes, etc., are either provocateurs or idiots. The crow crowed. Leningrad was not surrendered, women were sent to the front)))))
    The main task is to unravel the feat and memory of the feat of the people. So the "defenders" of women, children, innocent German soldiers fight in hysterics)))))))
    Thanks to our grandmothers for the VICTORY !!!!!!!!
  • Phil77 8 March 2020 08: 17 New
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    "The fact is that if a commentator pours mud on the military and pre-war generation, he is a boor and a scoundrel

    As I understand these words, they still have nothing to do with my person?
    1. mat-vey 8 March 2020 08: 33 New
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      They initially did not have.
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        Now it’s clear! Good luck!
  • Sergey_33 8 March 2020 08: 38 New
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    Do not worry, now they are building 3 churches per day, in some ATMs of the Savings Bank appear.

    Proofs are possible?
    1. mat-vey 8 March 2020 08: 57 New
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      I will take courage - https://www.interfax.ru/russia/662494
  • Sergey_33 8 March 2020 08: 45 New
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    Quote: Cop
    Quote: tihonmarine
    did you forget about it?
    Well, why, I remember.
    Quote: tihonmarine
    Penny to you the price of Valentine.
    It is worthless to those for whom the citizen of their country was so expendable on the way to a bright future.

    From the point of view of the evolutionary theory of the creation of the world, for Mother Nature, everyone, both man and a living creature, are expendables for providing and developing the ecosystem. So for the social system, any person is an expendable material for the development of society. Regardless of system and religion.
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      Quote: Sergey_33
      From the point of view of the evolutionary theory of the creation of the world, for Mother Nature, everyone, both man and a living creature, are expendables for providing and developing the ecosystem. So for the social system, any person is an expendable material for the development of society. Regardless of system and religion.
      How simple it is for you. The more ..... consumables, the more developed the social system. Then, following your logic, the most developed social system should be .... the third Reich, Kampuchea in the Khmer Rouge era, Maoist China, and the USSR was not far behind the leaders in building a developed social system. Do not tell me where they (systems) are all now?
  • Sergey_33 8 March 2020 09: 30 New
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    Quote: Cop
    Quote: tihonmarine
    I don’t know how to look at it, but my mother, who lived in the Smolensk region, went into partisans herself in 1943, and ended up with a partisan parade in Minsk. You were few of them, but they went and fought for their homeland, and in the partisans it was much harder than in the Red Army.
    Your mother deserves all kinds of honors. And what was my grandmother to do? She had three small children in her arms, the oldest, my mother was 6 years old. So we got to the camp. Or do you think that she should have joined the partisans with them? And then, having matured more than once, I had to fill out questionnaires in which there was a column "Did you or your relatives live in the occupied territories". Isn't that humiliation?

    Wildly, I apologize, why did they fill out the questionnaire, if it was so sick? There were full places where there was no 1st department. By the way, now, a polygraph passes to a good place, and there are more interesting questions there .. As an example, did you steal apples in a neighbor's garden as a child, or at what age did you begin to masturbate .. Etc etc.
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    2. Salty 8 March 2020 09: 34 New
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      at what age did masturbate

      The questions "on the polygraph" suggest the answer "Yes-No." Although there are quite tricky questions there.
    3. mat-vey 8 March 2020 10: 00 New
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      Almost half of the population of the USSR lived in the occupied territory. So with "humiliation" it is unclear how that.
      1. Phil77 8 March 2020 10: 51 New
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        This column was for the HR personnel, as it were, the first stop signal. * It is worth a closer look *.
        1. mat-vey 8 March 2020 15: 05 New
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          Well, if there’s any kind of regime. There was a lot of people in Rybalko’s 3rd occupied territory from the occupied territory, and what? And there was something to write down in the “column” about the military operations. My grandfather told them that on the contrary, they fought meaner, and from whom the family died in the occupation, so many of them didn’t give a damn about their life, if only they could take more with them and the special officers forgave them a lot, of course, within reasonable limits.
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      Wildly, I apologize, why did you fill out the questionnaires if I was so sick? There were plenty of places where there was no 1st department.
      Really enough, it was possible, for example, to go to .... wipers and row ... from the fence to dinner. Do you want to try it yourself?
      Quote: Sergey_33
      By the way, now, a polygraph passes to a good place, and there are more interesting questions there .. As an example, did you steal apples in a neighbor's garden as a child, or at what age did you begin to masturbate .. Etc etc.
      I am wildly sorry, but did Oberschütze with the MP-40 or the subordinate of Mr. Zolotov with the "Ksenia" on your shoulder take you to the polygraph? After all, you voluntarily came there in the hope of correctly answering the question from what age they started to masturbate and after that get a good place .......
  • Sergey_33 8 March 2020 09: 34 New
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    Quote: mat-vey
    I will take courage - https://www.interfax.ru/russia/662494

    ATMs where? I’ll tell you a terrible secret, they are not needed .. Donation can also be thrown through Sberbank online. And actually, I wonder what the author of the thesis is about spending not his money?
    PS .. I, as a donor, have 3 temples per day.
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      Quote: Sergey_33
      And actually, I wonder what the author of the thesis is about spending not his money?
      PS .. I, as a donor, have 3 temples per day.
      Well, donations and one “temple” per week can’t be built. All this magnificence - at the expense of the budget.
  • Sergey_33 8 March 2020 10: 05 New
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    Almost half of the population of the USSR lived in the occupied territory. So with "humiliation" it is unclear how that.

    For people with painful self-esteem can be vulnerable. By the way, and for the white movement did not warp some? There was such a fad. And how do such vulnerable souls undergo a physical examination? There, for reference, from a psychiatrist, they ask about relatives. Was there an uncle in the family with greetings or suicides? Horror !!
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    We remember and will remember until death. The role of a woman both in war and in the rear is a great feat. I congratulate all women on the occasion. In addition to those who consider themselves the coolest, and everywhere they put themselves on display. Among the so-called men it sounds “We can repeat.” To repeat, you must first protect your country. I saw a movie. My father, a front-line soldier who reached Poland (wounded), said that not a single movie could show all the horrors of war. And the front-line soldiers raised the first glass so that there was no war.
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  • Sergey_33 8 March 2020 11: 53 New
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    Quote: Pushkar
    Quote: Sergey_33
    And actually, I wonder what the author of the thesis is about spending not his money?
    PS .. I, as a donor, have 3 temples per day.
    Well, donations and one “temple” per week can’t be built. All this magnificence - at the expense of the budget.

    Recall an article from the budget where it comes to the allocation of funds?
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  • Marine engineer 8 March 2020 17: 48 New
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    “What was my grandmother to do? She had three small children in her arms, the oldest, my mother was 6 years old. So we got to the camp. Or do you think that she should have joined the partisans with them? And then, having matured more than once, I had to fill out questionnaires in which there was a column "Did you or your relatives live in the occupied territories". Is this not humiliation? [/

    What to do? In mid-August 1941, the Germans approached Kherson.
    My great-grandfather said “we won’t stay under the Germans”, put his wife, three daughters, two grandchildren on the cart, the oldest was 3 years old, took with him two more sisters of his son-in-law (my grandfather) and with this “female battalion” went to the place with retreating troops to the Crimea and then to the Kuban.
    In 1942, after our troops left Rostov-on-Don, our family again went to the evacuation. Now the great-grandmother (the great-grandfather was drafted into the army) commanded the “convoy” under bombing and shelling reached Tuapse, and from there to Georgia. She told me how difficult it was, but she never regretted that she had to go this way.
    So there is always a choice.
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      So there is always a choice.
      What are you doing? Besides what your family did ... the right choice, and mine not quite? If so, you need to start with the fact that your great-grandmother had ... great-grandfather, and great-grandfather had a cart. And my grandmother didn’t have a grandfather and there was no cart either. There was a small house in the village, a cow, which the Germans as soon as they arrived and took three children of 6, 4 and 1.5 years old. This is the first. But secondly, there is a choice between the rope and 7.65x21. This is not a rebuke to you, but infa about choosing a choice.
      1. Marine engineer 9 March 2020 17: 38 New
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        “What are you talking about? Besides what your relatives made ... the right choice, ... "

        You understood correctly.
        Whoever wanted to was evacuated, or at least tried to do it, it happened that the situation in the first weeks of the war changed dynamically and people could not do this, but the authorities tried to evacuate the maximum number of people.
        The Soviet authorities provided the cart and horses to our family for free (we had no first or second) with the condition that all this be delivered when they arrive at the final evacuation point.
        The most valuable things were loaded into the wagon - children, and the house, cattle, and acquired property had to be abandoned.

        I am sorry that next to your grandmother, when it was necessary to make a decision, not a single man was near.

        "About great-grandfather ..". You inattentively read my previous post, from the Kuban (the village of Starovelitchenskaya) to Tuapse and further to Georgia, my great-grandmother walked behind the wagon without the support of a “man’s shoulder”.

        "About men who could not protect ...."
        By 1944, in our family there were no adult men left from the word “completely”, they went missing, we gave everything to the front that we could and even more, in 1942 I drafted into the army one of my great-grandmother's daughters. For six months she won over as a simple infantryman, no indulgences, marches, digging trenches, guards, battles, and only after Stalingrad she was sent to the rear in the training detachment of the Black Sea Fleet as a clerk.

        For the author. I liked the article.
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          Quote: Marine engineer
          You understood correctly
          Well, thank God that at least we have a consensus in this.
          Quote: Marine engineer
          Whoever wanted to was evacuated, or at least tried to do it, it happened that the situation in the first weeks of the war was changing dynamically and people could not do it ...
          You are right, moreover, you and I could very well change places if, for example, the wheel on your cart broke or the horse fell, and the Germans threw off the landing and cut off the routes of evacuation of your relatives. And in the place where my relatives lived, “Soviet power” suddenly became concerned about the organized evacuation of the civilian population, and did not drapanula the first, as the Germans approached.
          Quote: Marine engineer
          .... but the authorities tried to evacuate the maximum number of people.
          Once my grandmother, when she was alive and the conversation was about war, said in her hearts that the chairman was such a reptile, he took collective farm horses, carts, loaded his house belongings, put his wife and children, tied cattle to carts, loaded his hangers-on on other carts and pulled further away from the Germans, saying goodbye to the women, they say you are saved.
          Quote: Marine engineer
          I am sorry that next to your grandmother, when it was necessary to make a decision, not a single man was near.
          And I am sorry that you still did not understand that there was no difference between my family and yours and succumbed to a provocation (well, provided, of course, that you are not its organizer. But I want to believe in the best), aimed at to quarrel us (their descendants).
          Quote: Marine engineer
          "About great-grandfather ..". You inattentively read my previous post, from the Kuban (the village of Starovelitchenskaya) to Tuapse and further to Georgia, my great-grandmother walked behind the wagon without the support of a “man’s shoulder”.
          I carefully read and understood everything correctly. In Tuapse and Georgia, your relatives huddled in foreign corners and it is not difficult for them to quit this corner ..... After all, there is nothing dear and close to the heart. After all, when on vacation and leaving the hotel, do you really make the bed lovingly? And mine? You imagine that for a woman to leave a small cozy house, where cleanliness, order, everything is done with love, a beloved cow, potatoes in the garden, etc. And I don’t understand at all that you don’t understand such simple things. It is just right to draw unpleasant conclusions ....
          Quote: Marine engineer
          "About men who could not protect ...."
          And in our family by the 42nd year, none of the men were left. In one of the answers from the military registration and enlistment office it was written that he disappeared in the 42nd year somewhere on the southern front. For obvious reasons, their women could not be called upon. But, if you suddenly change your places and my relatives, everything would be exactly the same. So what do we share with you?

          For the author. The article did not like.
          1. Marine engineer 10 March 2020 17: 42 New
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            You are right to divide us with nothing but your phrase “the heroism of Soviet women in war is always stupidity, stupidity and betrayal .... of Soviet peasants”.
            My grandfather, a marine (Soviet peasant) disappeared in November 1941 in the battles in the Nevsky Pyatochka area, and my great-grandfather, the reconnaissance platoon foreman (Soviet peasant), disappeared in the autumn of 1942 in the battles to defend the Caucasus.
            Explain to me what “stupidity, stupidity and betrayal ...” they committed, as a result of which Soviet women were forced to commit heroic deeds.
            If this was said in polemic enthusiasm, I am ready to accept an apology.
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              Well, that’s how it was written in one book, “... grandmother came” laughing
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              Explain to me what “stupidity, stupidity and betrayal ...” they committed, as a result of which Soviet women were forced to commit heroic deeds.
              Well, who authorized TASS to make a statement on June 14.06.41, 45, which disoriented the whole people? And who forbade the evacuation of the families of officers serving in the western districts and thereby doomed them to death and deprivation? Who adopted 57 mm. anti-tank gun instead of 17? You see the armor-piercing shell of this gun is too armor-piercing. This man apparently believed that the tanks would remain at Renault 1077. Who launched a defective armor-piercing projectile for the forty-five on the eve of the war? Who placed the hospital in the Brest Fortress a few hundred meters from the border. Why would someone have a cozy personal bunker in Kuibyshev, and anti-aircraft gunners of the 227th anti-aircraft regiment, order No. 1945? etc. And the biggest abomination that men committed at that time was that they settled personal accounts through strangers and their own women too. It is enough to recall the wives of Kalinin and Scriabin. Yes, and the wife himself too ..... Here is a photograph of Kravtsova NF at the top, though some ******* spoiled it with an inscription. I wanted to publish another photo nearby, this one: http://airaces.narod.ru/woman/nesteren.htm Then I thought to whom it was needed here, right there alone ... generators of pluralism. These two women are no different and in 2756 the photograph of the second could well have been in place of the first, I only hope without this stupid inscription. And who, in your opinion, signed the decree No. 18.10.41 / B of XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX, which so influenced the fate of the second?
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              If this was said in polemic enthusiasm, I am ready to accept an apology.
              If everything you said was under pressure ..... of certain circumstances, or as a result of a sincere error, I am ready to accept an apology. If .... some circumstances are stronger than you, then let me take my leave .... hi
  • Astra wild 8 March 2020 18: 00 New
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    Any of those girls that after the battle crawled the wounded collected - the heroine. Of those that the car regulated flags. Such a war ... Could fly from anywhere. They knew about it. But they walked voluntarily.

    Thank. You said what I think. The regulators didn’t do anything so bright for victory, but their work was necessary
    1. Petrol cutter 8 March 2020 20: 23 New
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      All professions are needed. All professions are Important.
      If this is not visible from someone's chicken coop, it does not mean that it should not be so. There, people were no more stupid than us.
      As life shows, even smarter. Which is characteristic.
  • Sergey_33 9 March 2020 15: 53 New
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    From the point of view of the evolutionary theory of the creation of the world, for Mother Nature, everyone, both man and a living creature, are expendables for providing and developing the ecosystem. So for the social system, any person is an expendable material for the development of society. Regardless of system and religion.
    How simple it is for you. The more ..... consumables, the more developed the social system. Then, following your logic, the most developed social system should be .... the third Reich, Kampuchea in the Khmer Rouge era, Maoist China, and the USSR was not far behind the leaders in building a developed social system. Do not tell me where they (systems) are all now?

    Global capitalism has the most consumables, if that.
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      Global capitalism has the most consumables, if that.
      And you interpolate .... supplies on the timeline here and there. Personally, I think that the builders of various kinds of social systems will defeat the global capitalists by a wide margin.