The Polish army is armed with American anti-tank systems Javelin

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The Polish army is armed with American anti-tank systems Javelin

The Polish army in the future may receive the American anti-tank complex Javelin. The US Department of Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) reportedly notified the US Congress of a possible sale on March 4 this year.

The potential delivery of anti-tank systems has already been approved by the US State Department as part of the Foreign Military Sales program. The total value of the agreement may be $ 100 million. The delivery will include anti-tank guided missiles, anti-tank missile launchers and related equipment.



Warsaw previously turned to Washington with a request for the supply of 180 Javelin anti-tank guided missiles and 79 launchers. In addition, Poland requested the supply of basic training simulators (BSTs), missile simulators (Missile Simulation Rounds), battery cooling units (BCUs), tools, and modified components for maintenance. The agreement also includes training ATGM operators, technical support, delivery of complexes, etc.

The Pentagon has already stated that the delivery of Javelin ATGMs to Poland is in the interests of the foreign policy and national security of the United States and will increase the level of combat capability of the NATO partner country in Eastern Europe.

It was previously reported that the Pentagon has entered into a new contract for the production of Javelin anti-tank systems for delivery to Ukraine and Georgia. For Ukraine, this will be the second batch of American anti-tank systems.
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    1. 0
      6 March 2020 17: 15
      Here are the gentlemen in front of the "big white master" then ... well done ... "the deflection is counted." Well it is necessary to have a developed production of the licensed Israeli "Spike" and also to request "Javelins" ...
      1. +1
        6 March 2020 17: 24
        Quote: svp67
        Here the gentlemen bowed before the "big white master"

        Well, where do they go. NATO standards, however, and Poland, after all, its MEMBER. You won’t be angry, they won’t give anything at all. They will also impose sanctions.
        1. +7
          6 March 2020 17: 28
          MEMBER in the United States, everyone else is called a little differently)))
          1. -1
            6 March 2020 17: 58
            Quote: Vyacheslav P
            MEMBER in the USA, everyone else is called a little differently

            What is in nature, what is in the state, what is in trousers, what is the man headless, anyway they are called in one word.
        2. +6
          6 March 2020 17: 29
          Quote: Piramidon
          NATO Standards

          And "SPIKE" does not correspond to them? Also, it matches /
          1. +1
            6 March 2020 18: 00
            Quote: svp67
            And "SPIKE" does not correspond to them?

            This is no longer a competitor;
          2. SSR
            -2
            7 March 2020 00: 25
            Quote: svp67
            Quote: Piramidon
            NATO Standards

            And "SPIKE" does not correspond to them? Also, it matches /

            What are you talking about?
            Log is a diagnosis.
            If you see a person burning bells with a blowtorch in Red Square, you should know that this is log fire.
            This is the oldest creature of the larva of the ragul.
            1. +1
              7 March 2020 01: 18
              I agree with you, this diagnosis is lazy ....... and even nourished by birch Smolensk juice ......)
        3. +2
          6 March 2020 17: 55
          Quote: Piramidon
          Well, where do they go. NATO standards however

          Javelin producers will not be left without work, all members (or ...) will be forced to buy by order, refusals are not accepted.
        4. 0
          6 March 2020 23: 19
          Member definitely!
          From fear, they will impose sanctions.
      2. +3
        6 March 2020 17: 25
        Today the javelins, and tomorrow the Katyusha .....
        Just looking at what move ....
        That's me ... the saying has rephrased a few .... wink
        1. 0
          6 March 2020 17: 41
          But what, do we really need to be afraid of them now?
          1. +4
            6 March 2020 17: 52
            Already trembling .... wassat
      3. +1
        6 March 2020 19: 44
        Quote: svp67
        Well it is necessary to have a developed production of the licensed Israeli "Spike" and also to request "Javelins" ...

        It's not even bending, it's even cooler
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      4. -2
        6 March 2020 20: 16
        Quote: svp67
        have a developed production of licensed Israeli "Spike" and also "Javelins"


        Javelin is a different class at all - he takes off and hits the roof of the tank from the sky, nothing can save him.
        1. +5
          6 March 2020 20: 33
          Quote: PO-tzan
          Javelin is a different class at all - he takes off and hits the roof of the tank from the sky, nothing can save him.

          Come on, you ... Have you seen the roof of our T-90M? Take a closer look. And then, right away, nothing will save ...
          And the hit "from a slide" and "Spike" can be repeated, this is its advantage, it is more multifunctional than "Javelin", it can be launched not only "from the shoulder", but also from the "platform", as from a ground and air
          1. +1
            7 March 2020 00: 47
            In Poland, a professional army uses Spike. Javelin Territorial Defense Force
            1. +1
              7 March 2020 03: 51
              Quote: n0001
              In Poland, a professional army uses Spike. Javelin Territorial Defense Force

              And here it is like "Mikhalych" winked Thank you for clarifying. "And what for to fence a garden like that?"
      5. +1
        6 March 2020 21: 07
        On the farm, everything came in handy
      6. +3
        6 March 2020 21: 20
        For whom are the pans, but for whom the Poles are not finished.
      7. +4
        6 March 2020 22: 38
        Warsaw turned to Washington with a request for the supply of 180 Javelin anti-tank guided missiles and 79 launchers.

        Everything is logical - 79 launchers, this will be devoted to each Polish installation. So to speak, for every fireman Yes And each master’s master’s master will be kept under the bed. laughing Now it remains only to issue each master of voivodeships an armored train laughing
    2. +6
      6 March 2020 17: 31
      Well, as far as I remember, they were delivered to Ukraine, a few months later, they were taken "for improper storage", and ...
      sent to Poland wink
      Correct, if not right ...
      1. Fat
        -2
        6 March 2020 18: 34
        Quote: usr01
        Well, as far as I remember, they were delivered to Ukraine, a few months later, they were taken "for improper storage", and ...
        sent to Poland wink
        Correct, if not right ...

        Right Eat a delay, until it is completely rotten ....
    3. +8
      6 March 2020 17: 32
      These "Javelins" are presented as some kind of wundrwaffle. What is so special about him that others do not have winked
      1. +4
        6 March 2020 17: 35
        What is so special about it that others do not have

        One name must already be afraid! wink
        1. +4
          6 March 2020 18: 25
          Quote: Masha
          What is so special about it that others do not have

          One name must already be afraid! wink

          Pralna, rename them Pshekovoelyans and oblige them to take five more cars! Yes Junk must be disposed of, they were still indigenous to the Indians museum flintlocks at the price of a herd of buffalo, a school of Jankesian salespeople, however! negative
          1. +5
            6 March 2020 19: 14
            To take ...
            remake javelin
            At the same time pay money ...
            Russia will be threatened!
            Weak mind
            Do not understand ...
            We don’t give a damn about a high hill! Yes
      2. +9
        6 March 2020 18: 01
        If compared with Russian ATGMs, then he has a shot-forgot. The shooter immediately changes position, in Russian he sits in place and waits for the rocket to hit the target. At the same time, modern tanks have laser irradiation sensors for counteraction (for those who shoot smoke grenades, for whom they cannon and cannon for firing, for the Chinese, the laser station burns out optical instruments and the retina of an ATGM operator or a tank gunner) ... Javelin can hit the roof of the tank with an impact core flying over the target. Although it may even hit the forehead like an ordinary ...... Well, now there are many who do ATGMs with such properties
        1. 0
          6 March 2020 18: 05
          Yes, that’s understandable. Why is there so much noise? Well, they set it up and set it up. In principle, an ordinary ATGM is better or worse than its counterparts, but at least they presented with a death star in Poland laughing
          1. +1
            7 March 2020 15: 07
            Why is there so much noise? Well, they set it up and set it up
            -----
            And the noise is only in the comments.
        2. +3
          6 March 2020 20: 06
          In addition, here are the analogs of American javelin: RAYBOLT -Yu. Korea; Spike MR / LR2 - Israel; HJ-12 China; OMTAS - Turkey; ENFORSER - European concern MBDA; NLAW - Swedish concern SAAB for the English army; NAG-India, though it’s on the BMP2 chassis ... .... Their characteristics are comparable to a javelin. (fired, forgotten, assaults) .......... We have nothing of the kind
          1. -2
            6 March 2020 21: 24
            Quote: V.I.P.
            We have nothing of the kind.

            Has already. ATGM "Hermes"
            1. +3
              7 March 2020 07: 19
              What is this? Aiming system for dropping free-falling bombs on the SU-24 ........ A portable ATGM with that name is not. We have a type of new Cornet
              1. -2
                7 March 2020 07: 52
                Quote: V.I.P.
                What is this?

                Third-generation anti-tank systems, while being installed on turntables, will soon be installed on the Su-25
                Quote: V.I.P.
                A portable ATGM with that name is not.

                They are trying to reduce it to portable
          2. +1
            6 March 2020 21: 39
            Quote: V.I.P.
            NLAW - Swedish concern SAAB for the English army

            An analog?
            Do you know that NLAW does not have a seeker and it hits a target on the fly?
        3. +2
          6 March 2020 22: 04
          Quote: V.I.P.
          Compared to Russian ATGMs

          If you compare with the Russian .. then the operator Jav needs to be in direct line of sight of the target, to capture the target of the target ... it can last from a few seconds to several tens .. And here you are the operator .. sit a mile from the target .. target tank .. whose mine is flying at a speed of 1km.s ...
          Second .. Russian anti-tank missiles do not shine with a laser at the target. They see the target in the optical channel, and the laser shines into the rocket and its displacement controls the rocket ... the distance is two more than that of Jav .., and for Chrysanthemum in three ...
          So I'm better with a cornet than with Jav .. live something hotz ..
          1. 0
            7 March 2020 03: 55
            Quote: dvina71
            And here you are the operator .. sit one and a half km from the target .. the target tank .. whose mine flies at a speed of 1 km.s ...

            And before that, he needs at least 30 seconds to "freeze" the GOS ...
        4. +2
          7 March 2020 03: 45
          Quote: V.I.P.
          Javelin can hit the roof of the tank with an impact core flying over the target. Although it can be beaten in the forehead like an ordinary ......

          Does not hit the "javelin" "the roof of the tank with a shock cannonball flying over the target ..."! Equipped with a "javelin" tandem-cumulative warhead and strikes the armored target, attacking (PICKING!) From the top! ... There is a "direct attack" mode ...
        5. +1
          7 March 2020 09: 06
          If compared with Russian ATGMs, then he has a shot-forgot. The shooter immediately changes positions, ....... it’s not so simple with dzhov, the main drawback is the cooling of the infrared seeker before launch, the second important position for the shooter from the dzhov. it should not be against the sun, another drawback is the contrast of the target in a certain infrared range. and there are a lot of contrasts on the earth, according to this there are practically only successful launches on the target for the show, advertising, in fact ......
      3. +6
        6 March 2020 18: 10
        Quote: Yamato1980
        What is so special about it that others do not have

        Special ??? This is the possibility of homing, the principle of "shoot and forget" is 100% embodied on it, and of course a blow from a "slide" into the roof of a tank or any other "warm-contrast target"
        But the same "Spike" has all this, but it is still possible to use the head with television guidance on it ... this ATGM allows it to be upgraded for a specific task
        1. +1
          6 March 2020 18: 14
          There is a Susanin for every Javelin .....
        2. 0
          6 March 2020 21: 10
          So like the Belarusian hornet also hits from above
          1. -4
            6 March 2020 21: 11
            Quote: Uncle Izya
            So like the Belarusian hornet also hits from above

            And our "Cobra" can hit from above
          2. +3
            6 March 2020 21: 41
            Quote: Uncle Izya
            Belarusian hornet also hits from above

            No. It just flies above the line of sight for a while. To prevent the target from detecting the "laser path". Before the target is lowered to the line of sight.
            1. 0
              6 March 2020 22: 19
              Well, they have a control panel, at least they won’t get an answer
            2. 0
              7 March 2020 09: 21
              For that, the range is greater at that cornet when compared with jewel
        3. +1
          7 March 2020 04: 03
          Quote: svp67
          of course a blow from the "slide" into the roof of the tank

          It depends on what you mean by "slide"! There is an attack mode when the ammunition flies at an extremely low altitude and only makes a "slide" in front of the target! After launch, the Javelin rises to a height of about 250 m and flies the main part of the distance, and dives before the target ... Can this be called a "slide"? Perhaps ... even more so if we allow the assumption ... Well, if it can (better) be called differently? ...
          1. 0
            7 March 2020 04: 12
            Quote: Nikolaevich I
            Well, and if it can (better) be called differently? ....

            The Germans had a similar technique called "the blow of the eagle", we have "the blow of the falcon", maybe these names will work?
            1. 0
              7 March 2020 09: 14
              "blow of an eagle", we have "blow of a falcon", maybe these names are suitable? .... rather "bite the vulture", the jove detects only contrasting IR targets. and even then not always, the target must be motionless. because the IR picture will be blurred in the GOS, there is a restriction in the direction towards the Sun, shorter than a parasha and only
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      5. -1
        7 March 2020 10: 13
        Quote: Yamato1980
        These "Javelins" are presented as some kind of wundrwaffle. What is so special about him that others do not have winked

        Active advertising for over 20 years. Image!
        Active pedaling of one useful and one controversial property of this ATGM as an absolute. Image!
        Actively obscuring the fundamentally important shortcomings of this ATGM "in public" (note - with a completely adequate understanding of its real capabilities within the US Armed Forces). Image!
        This power is so great that when completely obvious video confirmations of Javelin’s negatives are given, his fans simply refuse to perceive them adequately.
        So it goes.
    4. +2
      6 March 2020 17: 32
      The cost of 40 T-90S tanks ...
      1. -1
        6 March 2020 22: 21
        Let these jewels rot in warehouses. Nowhere to spend a full egg.
    5. +2
      6 March 2020 17: 34
      In, again, Javelin's life-giving miracles do. The Kremlin is beating in the epilepsy. Check and dumb cotton wool. The Poles-Javelins! All the cunning plans to capture Europe went to dust.
      1. +5
        6 March 2020 17: 44
        There is a scavenger down the street, towards - a prostitute. About her:
        - Good evening, Mrs. Curva!
        She is:
        - Good evening, pan shit ....
        Gavnyuki and there is ... this they do not take away! Yes
    6. 0
      6 March 2020 17: 48
      Such complexes as the last argument of the infantry .... if it remains intact, that infantry.
    7. +1
      6 March 2020 17: 52
      "Maybe", "potentially" ... Blah blah blah. In short - 100 mile in the morning, trumpets in the evening. The main thing is that the raguli do not spin around ...
    8. +3
      6 March 2020 18: 16
      Grandmas spend and this despite the fact that Poland is a vampire country in the EU.
    9. -1
      6 March 2020 18: 22
      It would be more correct to say "re-equips", for the Poles have long had jewels.
    10. +2
      6 March 2020 18: 50
      Ammunition for each PRTK slightly "more" 2 missiles? You will not overclock too much.
    11. +1
      6 March 2020 19: 34
      They are like a dead poultry to the Poles. Looks like they were in warehouses, and the seller has top mattress friends. So they puzzled the leadership of Poland, after which it turned out that without these anti-tank systems the pshek left to live until the morning, maximum until noon. sad
    12. 0
      6 March 2020 20: 35
      It was previously reported that the Pentagon has entered into a new contract for the production of Javelin anti-tank systems for delivery to Ukraine and Georgia. For Ukraine, this will be the second batch of American anti-tank systems.

      What is the second batch to Ukraine? It was from Ukraine to Poland that the Javelins were thrown.
    13. Fat
      +1
      6 March 2020 23: 02
      I really like the term: shot and forgot .... And forgot and forgot ... On the head of a fool chtol?
      Had seen. Out of breath. Won....
      Shcha! And to see where the money is flying?
    14. 0
      7 March 2020 00: 46
      Quote: V.I.P.
      If compared with Russian ATGMs, then he has a shot-forgot. The shooter immediately changes position, in Russian he sits in place and waits for the rocket to hit the target. At the same time, modern tanks have laser irradiation sensors for counteraction (for those who shoot smoke grenades, for whom they cannon and cannon for firing, for the Chinese, the laser station burns out optical instruments and the retina of an ATGM operator or a tank gunner) ... Javelin can hit the roof of the tank with an impact core flying over the target. Although it may even hit the forehead like an ordinary ...... Well, now there are many who do ATGMs with such properties


      only the accuracy of hitting the "roof" does not satisfy
    15. -3
      7 March 2020 00: 56
      Warsaw previously called on Washington to supply 180 Javelin anti-tank guided missiles and 79 launchers.
      Well, well, beloved mongrel of mericatos - and without javelas! It’s necessary, it’s not necessary, it’s a delay - but SHOB BULO. laughing
    16. +1
      7 March 2020 05: 54
      Most likely they sold in order to support their defense industry.
      The states now really need money, so they sell weapons to everyone.

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