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Russia and the Western Salafi alliance: what to do

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Russia and the Western Salafi alliance: what to doApparently, the collective West and representatives of Salafi Islam have found allies in each other, particularly in the Middle East.

It would seem an impossible combination. At first glance, the West, with its secularistic and notorious human rights rhetoric, can have nothing in common with supporters of the return of the Muslim world to the ideals and structure of the Muhammad community in Medina. The West now denies any influence of religion on society, postulating secularism, while Salafists reject everything outside religion, the West calls for tolerance, Salafis are frankly intolerant, the West demands equality, Salafis claim inequality between Muslims and non-Muslims, women and men, and so on, the West, in any case, verbally denies violence, while the Salafis welcome violence, setting it as the cornerstone of their worldview.

However, not everything is so simple.

We can observe how adherents of radical Islam scrupulously score points throughout the Muslim world. As established regimes that either had a secular, quasi-European character, as in Egypt, or were hidden secularly, with external religious paraphernalia, as in Libya, they collapsed, and the adherents of the Salafi model began to rapidly enter, the same brothers the muslims As in the Sunni version of Islam, the ideas of purification from all later rituals and customs triumphed. Islam in Africa generally takes on the character of an extremely intolerable, in fact, there is a massive departure of whole nations from traditional versions of religion, those versions that have been developed over the centuries, including by searching for models of peaceful coexistence with non-Muslim neighbors, as well as by introducing non-Arab peoples to the Muslim religion of their national elements. All this is accompanied by an aggravation of relations between Muslims and non-Muslims, and, more simply, a terrorist rampage in Nigeria, Kenya, Sudan, and several other countries. What is there Africa? In Russia, in the North Caucasus and in the Volga region, there is an ongoing struggle between the adherents of the classical variants of Islam and the supporters of the Salafi movements, which are controlled from the Arab countries of the Gulf. It should be noted here that the Muslim world became a source of colossal destabilization and, paraphrasing Nicholas 1, who called the Ottoman Empire "the sick of Europe", became a kind of "sick of the world." And to deny it is meaningless - the denial here is the lot of the chosen, the blind of the piece.

The sad thing is that in the modern world, which has become strongly interconnected, Muslim problems are literally beating everyone. Of course, one would expect that the collective West, which dominates, after the victory over communism, will undertake to defend humanity from the threats posed by the Islamic world, in which there is a serious ferment.

But what do we see? We see that the secular regimes of the Islamic world, which have repeatedly demonstrated their loyalty to Europe and America, are crumbling, but no one comes to help them. We see that the statements of those in power with America suggest that the West is trying to “build bridges” with radical Muslims.

And the events in Syria show us: there is close and mutually beneficial cooperation between the West and Islamic radicals. What is important and beneficial for the supporters of "pure Islam" in this cooperation? Well, of course, the overthrow of the non-Sunni elite, as well as, of course, the cleansing of Syria from non-Islamic elements, in order to create conditions for the Syrian territories to join the Gulf countries, which clearly plays the role of the skeleton of the projected Arab-Islamic superpower.

What does the West need? Well, of course, the West will like the expulsion of the Russian base from the Syrian Tartus, but the goal here is clearly small, not so much trouble this base gives them. The overthrow of Assad, who allegedly threatens Israel and Europe? It is ridiculous, because the threat from Damascus, where the insurrection takes all its forces, is almost miserable.

It seems to the West that it is important to simply establish an alliance with the Salafis. Throw them Syria, so that they feel the benefits of the union. The West, with its fair pragmatism, saw a powerful force, and, I would add, a blind and very controlled one that can be tamed, channeled and used for its own purposes.
What are these goals? Well, of course, these are countries in which there are solid Muslim communities, and which are not part of the West. This is Russia, China and India.

So far, Russia's biggest problem is a permanent insurgency in the North Caucasus, which has passed into the stage of the terrorist guerrilla, fueled, as has been written many times, from the oil countries of Arabia. As for China, the problem of its north-western part, inhabited by Muslims, has long surpassed Tibetan. As for India, this state, which is slowly but progressively developing, is generally extremely vulnerable in terms of the Islamic factor. Sooner or later, but the colossi, such as India and China, as well as Russia, rich in raw materials, will begin to overtake the western countries, and the gap and hegemony of the latter will be a big question.
Is the “friendship” with green-brown passionaries only used for creating an early ramming against the great countries of Asia? Is there no idea for those who rule the West for real, that “if the Caliphate is inevitable, then let it be useful to us”? And while a number of countries and peoples should fall victim to this plan?

In essence, the Salafi mindset inevitably leads to war, destabilization, conflict, the collapse of everything that can lead to civil consensus. And in any case, in Syria - for sure. Recent events talk about it. What should I expect? First, a gang of Salafis will break into a certain town and take it under control. Immediately, apparently, only by printing out the letters that came in synchronously, all the so-called world media will begin to trumpet about "humanitarian catastrophe", "mass executions", etc. Then, this “hotbed of freedom”, following the logic of the process, will be declared “inviolable” and protected by NATO, the European Union, the United States or someone else. In the next step, this new Benghazi will be pumped up. weapons, all sorts of Arabian bearded beasts from all sorts of Yemen will start to accumulate there, and this, if the authorities are not able to actively sanitize this center, and then there will begin an offensive on the Syrian cities. The Wahhabi democrats will cut the Alawites, and with them the Christians, and the world will watch over this next triumph of the right of the strong.

What should Russia do in this situation? Of course, the challenges of the new time deserve to give them paramount importance. I wish that such countries as Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Pakistan could not actively introduce their agents among the Muslim population of Russia, and this is the task of the security organs of our country. In the North Caucasus, it is necessary to fully support the so-called. tarikatis, traditional Muslims of the Sufi sense. The strongest tool against the depersonalizing, “seductive” psychology of Salafism is the development of the whole national - national languages, national ways and features of Islamic service. And, of course, moderate Tatar ministers of Islam should be helped with all their might, because they are under endless attacks.

When you and I say that Tatar Islam is tolerant and moderate, we still understand that this was not always the case. As long as the Tatar mullahs received education in the then uncontrolled Russian Khiva and Bukhara, radicalism also took place in the Volga region. Until Catherine the Great ordered the creation of an Islamic spiritual administration in Ufa, and a number of madrasahs, including Orenburg, so that the Tatars could receive spiritual education without leaving the country and not falling under the control of anti-Russian forces in the East .

It is necessary, however problematic, to interrupt the practice of receiving Islamic education in countries such as Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Egypt and Afghanistan. Care should be taken to ensure that people from Arab and Islamic countries in Russia did not conduct Salafi propaganda, did not open underground mosques, and all those who were seen for similar ones should be expelled from the country without the right of return. It is necessary, among other things, to take control of the process of transition to Islam among the Russian population, taking into account the fact that among all sorts of militants and bombers there are many neophytes, people who came to Islam not because of the search for spirituality, but in connection with their a priori attitude. on radicalism.

It is unacceptable that Islamic holidays in the Russian cities of the country turned into specific and often creepy demonstrations, with public sacrifices. It is necessary that an unequivocal understanding emerges - Russian local law is higher than custom, no matter how they are regulated, only because Russia, where a certain number of Muslims live, is not an Islamic country.

This is what comes to mind first. And, of course, all those who allow themselves to articulate ideas in the media, radical Islamic or close to radical ones, should, forgive, but deprive of words with a firm hand. Because their word speaks in blood. And you should not show cowardice here. Or pretend that nothing dangerous happens.

And most importantly, it is necessary to fight with the paralyzing, wet fear that the words “Islamic radicalism” and “Wahhabism” cause in all. Fear, at times, leads to illogical decisions, it hurts, it leads to Islamophobia, and it is what these gentlemen would like to achieve.
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  1. aspirin02
    aspirin02 26 July 2012 06: 17
    -2
    Islam in its correct FORMS WITHOUT RADICALISM MUCH MUCH BEAM COMMUNISM! This religion does not recognize drunkenness, malice, debauchery, etc. !!
    But the current policy of a fly makes an elephant !!! Globalization of America gives its own !!! If the Slavs could buy us fornication !! Drugs and so on, they kill Islam by war and make it a common enemy for all nations !! Who does not agree is ready to discuss!
    1. alexng
      alexng 26 July 2012 06: 27
      +2
      Although I’m wrong for them, in Islam there is respect for the older generation, and at the level of genes. I have never seen this in my life. There are exceptions among them, but their meager.
      1. Humpty
        Humpty 26 July 2012 13: 23
        +1
        So, minuscule. For example, the traditional sale of children in slavery. Other types of slave trade.

        By the way, if the minuscule said, show the ransom.
    2. Ivan Tarasov
      Ivan Tarasov 26 July 2012 06: 37
      +10
      There is no such form of government as Islam, nor is there such a religion - communism.
      Islam (radical sects), rather turned into a tool to solve their geopolitical problems.
      1. sergo0000
        sergo0000 26 July 2012 06: 54
        +6
        Ivan Tarasov,
        I completely agree with you! +
        drinks
      2. Murai
        Murai 26 July 2012 11: 45
        +1
        Quote: Ivan Tarasov
        There is no such form of government as Islam

        And what form of government did the prophet and his companions rule over a huge caliphate for hundreds of years? Tolerance and love for their neighbor were in their blood.
        Islam includes and regulates absolutely all aspects of human life from domestic life to the management of the state. This is the law acc. with which a Muslim must live his term on this planet.
        It’s just that his understanding has been distorted and used for their own purposes by the enemies of this religion, but they will not win in the war with God and will be defeated (both by the radicals and their puppeteers), although it sounds incredible when traditional Islam is very weak.
        1. von_Richten
          von_Richten 26 July 2012 19: 58
          +1
          Tolerance? Love? Are you stoned
    3. sergo0000
      sergo0000 26 July 2012 06: 39
      +2
      aspirin02,
      I’ve got a neighbor, a Russian young guy, who also accepted Islam. I’m also ready to discuss my position with everyone in a row. Now I’m trying to grow a beard, but only some kind of liquid washcloth is climbing.
      1. aspirin02
        aspirin02 26 July 2012 06: 44
        0
        I'm a Christian !!! There are simply many brakes in this faith for globalization! And religion and politics are like a mother and a son! (This is comrade above =))
        1. sergo0000
          sergo0000 26 July 2012 07: 05
          +1
          aspirin02,
          Quote: aspirin02
          And religion and politics are like mother and son

          And you read yesterday’s article on a site about Turkey! How the CIA corrects Islam to Western values ​​and imposes it on the BV and in Turkey in particular! Their government confirms this. And who is the mother here?
          1. esaul
            esaul 26 July 2012 07: 18
            +2
            Greetings, Sergey. You're right, buddy and confirmation of your words is in the article

            It seems to the West that it is important to simply establish an alliance with the Salafis. Throw them Syria, so that they feel the benefits of the union. The West, with its fair pragmatism, saw a powerful force, and, I would add, a blind and very controlled one that can be tamed, channeled and used for its own purposes.
            1. sergo0000
              sergo0000 26 July 2012 08: 07
              0
              esaul,
              Greetings Valery! Glad to see! Thank you for your support. drinks
              I already, if you remember, more than once sounded the alarm on the site, that more and more I have to see young people at the mosque! And the worst thing is there are a lot of "Russians" !!! (as ethnic Muslims themselves call them)
              And I would call them even easier, Christ sellers! After all, many were baptized at birth !!!
              After all, someone and for some reason lures them there? And for what? - here, in my opinion, no one needs to explain!
              1. sergo0000
                sergo0000 26 July 2012 11: 01
                +3
                Terrorism with a Slavic face is the goal of the radicals! Cannon meat from the Russians themselves! Covered very carefully by the sweet surahs from the Koran!
                1. Murai
                  Murai 26 July 2012 11: 56
                  0
                  Quote: sergo0000
                  Terrorism with a Slavic face, that’s the goal of the radicals! Cannon meat from the Russians themselves!Covered very carefully by the sweet surahs of the Qur'an!

                  You want to say that terrorism is carefully hidden in the Qur'an ???
              2. Shuhrat turani
                Shuhrat turani 26 July 2012 13: 34
                -1
                Quote: sergo0000
                I already, if you remember, more than once sounded the alarm on the site, that more and more I have to see young people at the mosque! And the worst thing is there are a lot of "Russians" !!! (as ethnic Muslims themselves call them)
                And I would call them even easier, Christ sellers! After all, many were baptized at birth !!!
                After all, someone and for some reason lures them there? And for what? - here, in my opinion, no one needs to explain!


                everyone is looking for their own way ... Religion imposed in infancy does not always find a response in the soul at a more adult age ... This is a personal choice for everyone ... DO NOT NEED TO SEARCH A CONTRACT THERE WHERE IT IS NOT.
                And your Islomophobic attacks are a manifestation of pride, by the way pride is a mortal sin.
      2. Humpty
        Humpty 26 July 2012 13: 18
        0
        You look in a year will enter somewhere else.
      3. Castor oil
        Castor oil 26 July 2012 15: 27
        0
        Quote: sergo0000
        So I’m also ready to discuss my position with everyone.

        Probably trying to decide - didn’t he go !?
        1. 755962
          755962 26 July 2012 20: 19
          0
          It’s rude to interfere with politics with religion ... An explosive mixture is obtained .. Religion in itself is Vera! But in the hands of cunningly w o..p s..x democrats-this is a WEAPON ...
  2. logic
    logic 26 July 2012 07: 23
    +8
    In Russia, as usual, instead of being tough in defending Russian rights (in the broad sense), there is some talk, and any handful dictates the conditions and requires a special position at the expense of others. The flip side of tolerance however
  3. castaneda
    castaneda 26 July 2012 07: 37
    -1
    Islam is a peaceful religion, but it is perverted, agrees aspirin02 that they make it their instrument and a common enemy for the world.
    1. skullcap
      skullcap 26 July 2012 11: 33
      +3
      kastaneda Today, 07: 37
      Islam is a peaceful religion
      -------------------------------------------------- ------
      It is our desire to see the world beautiful.
      . In life, not everything is as we would like.
      In reality, Islam is an openly lunar cult with all the ensuing consequences. And he is peaceful only until he gains strength in one or another part of the world.
      1. Murai
        Murai 26 July 2012 12: 05
        -1
        Quote: kosopuz
        Real islam - frankly lunar cult with all the ensuing consequences. And he is peaceful only until he gains strength in one or another part of the world.

        Simple not knowing religion, sorry.
        1. skullcap
          skullcap 26 July 2012 12: 19
          +2
          Murai Today, 12: 05
          Simple not knowing religion, sorry
          -------------------------------------
          A simple knowledge of life, no matter how bitter.
          1. Murai
            Murai 26 July 2012 12: 49
            -1
            I mean that Islam is not a cult and it coexisted peacefully with all religions and preaches it, but what happens in life is so bitter for me to see it.
            1. Shuhrat turani
              Shuhrat turani 26 July 2012 13: 40
              -1
              Quote: Murai
              I mean that Islam is not a cult and it coexisted peacefully with all religions and preaches it, but what happens in life is so bitter for me to see it.



              DO NOT prove anything ... Judeo-amerskoy MOST RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA inspire thoughts of hostile Muslims OPRIORNOY And this thesis implicated at the national pride GIVES good harvest ... That's all ... SOCIETY IN RUSSIA has long become a good steward of Otaru WHERE NATIONALISM, RELIGIOUS AND RACIAL CHOVINISM- MAIN MANAGEMENT TOOLS.
            2. skullcap
              skullcap 26 July 2012 14: 37
              +2
              Murai Today, 12: 49 ↑
              I mean that Islam is not a cult and it coexisted peacefully with all religions
              --------------------------------------------
              I cannot agree with you here either. Islam by its nature requires the conversion of absolutely all people by any, including violent under the fear of death, method.
              When I, still in Soviet times, lived in Wed. Asia, then acquainted with the history of the local civilization. Once I came across a small-sized book of one of the local poets, unfortunately now I don’t remember exactly who. In one of their poems, he directly wrote about: we are all living here today, descendants of those weak people who, in fear of death, in their time, abandoned the faith of their ancestors.
              But it is necessary to judge not by words, but by deeds. In all countries where Islam came, there was a violent appeal to the faith of the local population. The recalcitrants were slaughtered, at best subject to additional religious tax.
              Yes, the indispensable practice of bringing bloody sacrifices from animals and people can not fail to abhor a person with a healthy mind. The fact that cutting the throat of sheep on the street in the presence of people who did not want to see it, including children, was mentioned more than once.
              I just want to remind you about the killing of Islamic radicals over people in Libya, the video of which was posted at the time and on this site. Then, captives like rams, the throat was cut. But it was not the slaughter of captives by the method of cutting, but sacrificing them to their god under the peaceful muttering of prayers. This was seen by many visitors to this site and can confirm. Now this link, unfortunately, does not work.
              Everyone is looking for God, but God cannot be in the moon camp. There is his opponent.
              1. Murai
                Murai 26 July 2012 15: 34
                -1
                Quote: kosopuz
                Islam by nature requires appeal to him absolutely all people by anyone, including violent on pain of deathin a way.

                You are wrong, proof of this ayah:
                “There is no compulsion in religion” (Sura Al-Bakara, ayat 256).
                "Whoever desires, believe (in Allah), and whoever does not want, let him not believe" (Surah al-Kahf (Cave), ayah 29).
                "Would you try to force people to believe?" (Sura "Yunus", ayat 99).
                "You are not supposed to command them" (Surah al-Gashiya (Covering), ayah 22)
                "If they turn away from you (O Muhammad!), Then We did not send you as a guard for them. You only have to communicate the Revelation" (Surah al-Shura (Council), ayah 48)

                The Qur'an does not allow the use of violence in the spread of Islam, and therefore, during the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) and in the era of righteous caliphs, the spread of the Muslim religion was never accompanied by the use of force, executions or persecution of Gentiles. If, when Muslims instructed and called people to the path of truth, someone opposed them with arms in order to prevent them from bringing the truth to people, Muslims responded accordingly, and then after all peaceful ways of solving this problem have been exhausted .
                Muslims never allowed themselves, and even in a martial law, the use of force against civilians, children, women, the elderly. Coercion and violence are not able to awaken the love of faith in people, and Islam is a religion of mercy and love. The Qur'an does not accept hypocritical conversion to Islam.
                The Qur'an says (meaning): “By the grace of Allah, you were gentle towards them when they opposed you. But if you were rude and cruel, they would certainly leave you ”(Sura Al Imran, verse 159).
                The Qur'an orders to respect the right of people to freely practice their religion. A Muslim can only clarify the basics of his religion, but to guide people on a direct path is not in his power, it can only be God.

                The rebellious were cut out, at best they were subject to an additional religious tax.

                When the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) arrived for the first time in Medina, he did not cut anyone out there, although he found complete anarchy and civil strife there. A few weeks later he managed to call to order all its inhabitants. In the city-state he founded, on the basis of a social contract, Muslims, Jews, Gentile Arabs, and a small number of Christians lived. It is noteworthy that one of the clauses of the “constitution” of this first Muslim state says: “Muslims have their religion, and Jews have their religion.” Or: "May there be free will and justice."
                Non-Muslims paid a small tax (jizya), from which women and the poor were exempted, but this tax was not burdensome and unfair, because they, unlike Muslims, did not pay zakat from their property. In turn, Muslims took them under their protection and had to protect them even at the cost of their lives. This tax was equal to twelve dirhams per year, which amounted to the average family spending 10 days, and it was paid only by permanent residents of a city.

                cutting the throats of rams on the street in the presence of people unwilling to see this, including children, has been mentioned more than once.

                I completely agree, you can’t do this.

                I just want to remind you about the reprisals of Islamic radicals on people in Libya

                The cases of mercenaries, criminals and Wahhabis have nothing to do with Islam.

                But it was not the killing of prisoners by the method of cutting, namely, bringing them to sacrifice to your god to the mumbling mumble of prayers

                Nonsense, even Wahhabis do not.

                Everyone is looking for God, but God cannot be in the lunar camp.

                No insults please.
                Read more about jihad http://www.islaam.ru/answers/questions/3.html
                1. von_Richten
                  von_Richten 26 July 2012 20: 03
                  0
                  The life of Muhammad was far from holy
                  Muhammad's lust, his intrigues and romances with maids and slaves, pedophilia (a 54-year-old "prophet" had sexual relations with a 9-year-old child), revelry, massacres, massacres, slave trade, raids, looting, burning trees, destruction of wells, curses, revenge, torture of prisoners of war - all this suggests that Muhammad was not a prophet and even a normal person - he was a monster.


                  RESEARCH OF THE KORAN SHOWS THAT THIS BOOK DOES NOT RELATE TO GOD
                  The Qur'an is filled with unscientific stupidities, historical, grammatical and mathematical errors, logical inconsistencies and ethical errors. Is it possible to equate the Creator of the Universe and the author of the Quran?
                  The Qur'an calls on Muslims to violence, he demands that the slaves of Allah:
                  destroyed the infidels, wherever they met (2: 191),
                  killed and rude to them (9: 123),
                  took their life (9: 5),
                  fought with them (8:65)
                  diligently fought with them (25:52),
                  were ruthless to them as they go to hell (66: 9),
                  they chopped off their heads and demanded a ransom for the captives (47: 4).
                  The above atrocities are for atheists and pagans. For Christians and Jews (Zimmis), a tax on the right to exist and humiliation is intended (9:29). If they resist, Muslims can kill them.
                  Freedom of conscience is alien to the Qur'an, which recognizes exclusively Islam (3:85). He dooms the infidels to the flames of Hell (5:10), calls them unclean and untouchable (9:28), orders Muslims to fight them, until Islam becomes the only religion (2: 193), destroy, crucify them, cut off their hands and expel them from their lands.
                  The Qur'an emphasizes that the terrible punishment in the underworld is intended for the infidels and figuratively describes these punishments that really inspire horror: the infidels will have to drink boiling water (14:17), they will be sucked in by smoke and flame, and if they pray for help, they will be given melting copper that will burn their faces (18:29), hot water will pour on their heads, their skin will decompose, they will be beaten with iron rods (22:19). The Qur'an forbids Muslims to communicate even with their fathers and brothers if they are infidels (9:23; 3:28).

                  http://islamic.narod.ru/relig29.htm
                  1. Murai
                    Murai 26 July 2012 23: 44
                    -1
                    One lie, distortion and ayah taken out of context, I don’t even know whether to begin to refute or leave it. request
                    1. von_Richten
                      von_Richten 27 July 2012 12: 18
                      -1
                      In Islam, it is customary to divide the Qur'anic suras according to time and place of origin into the early Meccan and late Medina. These two groups of suras also differ in character. If the Meccan suras are liberal and conciliatory, then the Medina suras sound hostile and revengeful. This difference in the nature of the suras is explained by changes in the religious career of Muhammad. In Mecca, Muhammad was weak and despised, his fellow tribesmen almost killed him as a religious heretic, therefore, in the Meccan suras, Muhammad sought compromise and reconciliation with his fellow tribesmen.
                      "There is no compulsion in religion."
                      (Quran 2: 257)

                      "And do not bicker with the owners of the book, other than something better."
                      (Quran 29: 46)

                      "Say: O you unfaithful! I will not worship what you will worship, and you will not worship what I will worship. You have your faith, and I have my faith!"
                      (Quran 109: 1-6)
                      In Medina, Muhammad assembled a strong detachment and this allowed him to reject the now unnecessary reconciliation policy and proceed to attack.
                      "I will throw fear into the hearts of those who did not believe; strike them on the necks, strike them on all fingers!"
                      (Quran 8: 12)

                      "And fight them until there is no more temptation and all religion belongs to Allah."
                      (Quran 8: 39)

                      "Beat the polytheists where you find them, capture them, besiege them, ambush them in any hidden place!"
                      (Quran 9: 5)

                      "Fight those of the infidels who are close to you. And may they find severity in you."
                      (Quran 9: 123)

                      "Those of the possessors of the scripture (Jews and Christians) and polytheists who did not believe - in the fire of Gehenna - abide there forever. They are the worst of creation."
                      (Quran 98: 6)
                      From here comes the ambiguity of the Qur'an, which Muslims skillfully use. Depending on the circumstances, Muslims cite either liberal or aggressive surahs. But non-Muslims should not be deceived, because in Islam there is a rule of replacing old suras with new ones. This is how the Qur'an says it:
                      "Whenever we cancel a verse or make it forget, we bring up a better one than it, or a similar one."
                      (Quran 2: 106)
                      We now know that the old Meccan surahs of a peaceful nature have been replaced with new and "better" Madinah suras that call for violence and war.
                      http://islamic.narod.ru/relig2.htm
                      PS For me, the prospect of being mortified due to the fact that I hold atheistic views is not that.
  4. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 26 July 2012 08: 26
    +6
    Against the background of Saudi and Qatari vis-a-vis trips, we can get another headache only in the center of Russia. Now you can’t have anything to do with Arabs from Qatar and Arabia, and fuck them send along with the President of Tatarstan. And you need to do it today!
    1. sergo0000
      sergo0000 26 July 2012 10: 55
      +3
      Alexander Romanov,
      I agree! And the further the better! drinks
  5. tan0472
    tan0472 26 July 2012 08: 48
    0
    If the body, like the state, is strong, then no external factors will harm it. It is necessary to make the state stronger.
  6. Kaa
    Kaa 26 July 2012 09: 00
    +3
    Again twenty-five! This I am returning to yesterday's assertion that in relation to the West towards Russia, more precisely, towards its territory and population, one principle has been operating for many centuries - "Drang nach Osten". In its implementation, the following are taken as allies: Catholic knightly orders, Catholic deserters-Slavs (gonorove and nobilitovane Polish gentry), Masonic-atheistic French half-republicans, half-imperials, giving pagan mysticism to National Socialists, now in line - extreme Islamists (although why now, began with Saudi-Emirati support for bearded men in Afghanistan). The result is predictable, but how can you explain it to them, that you don't need to wake up the dashing while it is quiet?
  7. ubrus
    ubrus 26 July 2012 10: 19
    +3
    In fact, Salafi thinking inevitably leads to war, destabilization, conflict, the collapse of all that could lead to civil consensus.
    And the United States has the same thinking, so it turns out a "sweet couple"
  8. dmb
    dmb 26 July 2012 11: 00
    +5
    Well written. First, there is real confirmation. 1990-1992 Chechnya. There, too, everything began with the fact that Moscow was actually sanctioned by the seizure of power by Dudayev's bandits. “Wise statesmen” such as the drunkard Bori and the now living and prosperous (unfortunately) Shakhrai and Poltoranin meant that by displacing the previous, supposedly communist power in the person of Zavgaev, they would be kissed by Dudayev and would wisely rule over them. And he just kicked them. So these gentlemen have no less blood of our people. than on all Wahhabis combined. The article is also good in that it offers specific measures. Just do not forget that we are still a secular state. And this is the only thing that can save him from collapse on a confessional basis.
  9. Igarr
    Igarr 26 July 2012 11: 13
    +3
    Only one conclusion follows from everything.
    Specially generated generation - Salafi / Wahhabis.
    The image was specially created - a turban, a beard, a fanatical gleam in the eyes.
    The theme is specially exaggerated - scary, terrible, aggressive.
    Conflicts, collisions, explosions are specially provoked.
    For what?
    To implement the same principle - Divide and conquer!
    Who implements this principle is known to all.
    ..
    In five or two years, if there is no result (and there is only one result - I’ll ruin Russia altogether, I won’t talk about other states) - these wahlaks ... will be written off ... as waste material. Yes, even the result will be, anyway.
    The following will appear.
    ...
    So, so as not to wait ... collapse or heels or two ...
    these .... brownish green ... you need to tumble now.
    Hard to blame. Brutally bring down.
    Ruthlessly.
    ..
    In the end, we have one homeland.
    No one else .. will not provide.
    1. Shuhrat turani
      Shuhrat turani 26 July 2012 13: 45
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      The conclusion follows from everything.
      Specially generated generation - Nazis / Nationalists.
      The image was specially created - BITA, SHAVED HEAD, fanatical gleam in the eyes.
      The theme is specially exaggerated - scary, terrible, aggressive.
      Conflicts, clashes, KILLS are specially provoked.
      For what?
      To implement the same principle - Divide and conquer!
      Who implements this principle is known to all.
      ..
      In five or two years, if there is no result (and there is only one result - I’ll ruin Russia altogether, I won’t talk about other states) - these wahlaks ... will be written off ... as waste material. Yes, even the result will be, anyway.
      The following will appear.
      ...
      So, so as not to wait ... collapse or heels or two ...
      these .... BROWN ... you need to bring down now.
      Hard to blame. Brutally bring down.
      Ruthlessly.
      ..
      In the end, we have one homeland.
      No one else .. will not provide.
      1. Igarr
        Igarr 26 July 2012 19: 55
        +1
        Shuhrat ... to the point.
        totally agree.
  10. Murai
    Murai 26 July 2012 11: 41
    0
    Quote: Ivan Tarasov
    There is no such form of government as Islam

    And what form of government did the prophet and his companions have for hundreds of years? Tolerance and love for their neighbor were in their blood.
    Islam includes and regulates absolutely all aspects of human life from domestic life to the management of the state. This is the law acc. with which a Muslim must live his term on this planet.
    It’s just that his understanding has been distorted and used for their own purposes by the enemies of this religion, but they will not win in the war with God and will be defeated (both by the radicals and their puppeteers), although it sounds incredible when traditional Islam is very weak.
  11. skullcap
    skullcap 26 July 2012 12: 16
    +4
    The alliance of Americans with radical Islam is predetermined by the modern course of history.
    All America’s well-being is built on the tears, blood, and deaths of hundreds of millions of people during the two world wars.
    Now the United States is in a deep crisis, from which they cannot get out without a world war — everyone who is not too lazy is talking about it openly. This other Americans are judged for real and alleged crimes against morality. They themselves always spit on these standards when it comes to their profits.
    The American regime needs war far from its borders, which means again on the Eurasian continent. And militant Islam is the best tool for this. A billion revolutionary zealots are objectively targeting all of today's geopolitical rivals in the United States: Russia, India and China. Europe will also get the old woman, so that she no longer thinks of herself more than the owner permits ..
    Undoubtedly, by combined efforts these countries (with the forced use of the most modern weapons) will defeat the militant aggressors, but military efforts can affect the prospects for the economic development of these countries in the most negative way, which will provide another gap between America in development and its current competitors.
    As a result, the situation of the mid-forties of the last century will again be repeated, when a powerful and rich America will help restore peaceful life to obedient nations and squeeze nations wrong from an American point of view.
    The peculiarity will only be that instead of denazification de-Islamization will be carried out everywhere.
    1. Murai
      Murai 26 July 2012 12: 43
      +1
      I completely agree, only theory and practice will not converge with them (Americans and radicals).
  12. Shuhrat turani
    Shuhrat turani 26 July 2012 13: 28
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    Russia, where a certain number of Muslims live, is not an Islamic country.

    This is one of the sources of radicalism ... The Russian majority is immediately fenced off from Muslim citizens, singling them out as a foreign body ... Naturally, Muslims consider this an insult, and against this background, separatist propaganda is growing ...

    You lose the information war right away ... before you even enter the fight ....
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 26 July 2012 14: 31
      -3
      Quote: Shuhrat Turani
      This is one of the sources of radicalism ...

      I do not agree here with you, dear Shuhrat!
      In Islam there is no radicalism or moderation, there is KNOWLEDGE and Ignorance!
      ........ one of the sources of ignorance
      1. Shuhrat turani
        Shuhrat turani 26 July 2012 14: 55
        +2
        Quote: Yarbay
        In Islam there is no radicalism or moderation, there is KNOWLEDGE and Ignorance!
        ........ one of the sources of ignorance


        I was referring to radicalism in relations between people, not to faith. If a person feels that society is unfair to him only because of his religious affiliation, this will legitimize thoughts about changing the structure of society and the state, and if someone throws money and organizes everything correctly, a hotbed of instability may arise .... . the titular majority is primarily to blame for the separatism of the outskirts ... But in Russia, the titular majority was convinced that a minority ruled in the state (anyone, but not Russians), and the majority (Russians) were constantly oppressed ... AND THIS NONSENSE THE MINDS OF RUSSIANS THAT HERE-HERE WILL BECOME THE BASIS OF THE NATIONAL POLICY 1/7 OF THE SUSHI PART ... SADLY FINAL ... BUT SUCH A REALITY ....
        1. Igarr
          Igarr 26 July 2012 20: 04
          +2
          Shuhrat ..
          Well nifiga se suburb found - Kazan?
          From the University of Kazan - Lenin expelled. For anti-Semitism, probably.
          Professors from Kazan ... often come across in books. Well there ... they were both sitting and in the defense. I remember that they were.
          It is not clear whether Kazan was the capital of Muscovy, or Moscow was the capital of the Kazan Khanate.
          Simeon Bekbulatovich, the holy king of Russia - well, obviously. not their Arkhangelsk.
          ...
          Just as the green dressings of AllahAkbar are not needed ...
          Similarly, do not need .. the pseudo-swastikas of the Russian National Brotherhood.
        2. Yarbay
          Yarbay 26 July 2012 21: 22
          -2
          Shuhrat You are right in many ways!
          The generation of the Soviet Union is now keeping Russia afloat!
          You see, I’m sure that Nazi movements and all sorts of skinheads and discontent
          all this was brought up by the visitors and was nurtured by the state in Russia, or rather, certain structures in the state!
          This is not just that!
          Recently, a trial was held over 5 skinheads who killed a person after the events at the Manege!
          In general, three were given suspended sentences, one three years, another 5 in my opinion!
          But the visitor would have killed and given such a term, then everything would have started, everyone had been bought!
          All these problems are organized from one center and for specific purposes!
          They would want to destroy all sorts of movements and organized crime groups in a short time!
          Well, you need to fuel discontent, push people together !!
    2. Alexander 1958
      Alexander 1958 28 July 2012 22: 23
      0
      For Shuhrat Turani
      Good afternoon! I don’t know whether I will reassure you or not, but it seems to me that this attitude is not only towards Muslims ... Tell me, what about the Buddhists?
      With uv. Alexander 1958
  13. Andrey_K
    Andrey_K 26 July 2012 15: 09
    +1
    Apparently, what happened in Germany in the 30s is happening in the Arab world.
    A new Reich is being created to solve the problem of winning world domination by military means.
    Muslims will carry chestnuts from the fire (trying to crush all the enemies of America), taking all the risks of defeat in the world war.
    Religion has nothing to do with it - people preach their own exclusivity, earlier national exclusiveness was used, now religious.
    Everyone who is exclusive has the right to kill any other non-exclusive.
    And this other one is the same Muslim, but only from a different branch of Islam.
    So everything goes according to the scenario.
    And Syria is Spain 40s.
  14. GM.kz
    GM.kz 27 July 2012 05: 21
    +1
    In Kazakhstan, these Salafists are like flies. So wait, it will soon crash when the Arabs give the order, it will not appear a little! And to my leaders I’ll think of everything on the drum, there’s no way to deal with this. Even the Uzbeks who come to us are amazed where so many happy people come from in Kazakhstan !!!