Tests of hypersonic Zircon from the ship will continue

Tests of the latest hypersonic Zircon will continue with launches from the surface ship. In 2020, the frigate Admiral Gorshkov will launch several more hypersonic missile launches. This was reported by TASS, citing a source in the Russian defense industry.

Tests of Zircon using the frigate of the North as a carrier fleet Project 22350 Admiral Gorshkov will be continued, in 2020 several more launches are planned

- the agency leads the words of the source.

According to the publication, the rocket developers plan to confirm the capabilities of Zircon to overcome the enemy’s missile defense. The timing of additional tests is not reported. There is also no data on the timing of the launch of a hypersonic missile from a submarine.

Recall that the first tests of the Zircon hypersonic missile from the surface ship became known at the end of February this year, when news agencies reported the launch of Zircon from the frigate Admiral Gorshkov at one of the Northern Fleet’s naval ranges in the Barents Sea. It was reported that a rocket launched from a ship overcame more than 500 km and hit a target located on the shore. It was clarified that the first launch was carried out in January.

As you know, to launch the Zircon missile, the 3S-14 universal ship’s firing complex (UKSK) is used, designed to fire the Caliber and Onyx. Currently, UKSK 3S-14 is equipped with all new ships under construction, as well as undergoing modernization. In addition, the UKKS is equipped with multi-purpose submarines of Project 885 Ash.

Comments

[Whalebone]

We are waiting for the vidos of the ship sunk by Zircon. After that, it will be possible to remain silent on this topic. Advertising for the whole world. There was a ship - and no.

[Thrall]

Continue to observe the imaginary horizon

[Whalebone]

How would I be without you. thanks for work

[Kalmar]

Quote: Whalebone

We are waiting for the vidos of the ship sunk by Zircon

In a good way, at least some distinct vidos would be. To show hypersonicity and the ability to hit a small target. That would be really interesting.

[voyaka uh]

You need not a video, but at least one photo of Zircon.
To understand what it is: a cruise missile or another BR.

[Wedmak]

Are you still wondering? If 500 km, then is it worth doing ballistic when there is a dagger? Moreover, the launch of a BR from a ship for 500 km .. well ... so-so. Most likely, Zircon is something similar to a needle with a supporting body and short direction surfaces. All. What are the 5-6M maneuvers in the atmosphere? Yes, and they are not needed. Valid KR as a carrier of the warhead described above. Leads to a distance of 100-150 km, then warhead works.

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Wedmak

Are you still wondering?

and you ... with such knowledge in the queue for the "green card? and what, add phone numbers, and FSE.

[Wedmak]

and you ... with such knowledge in the queue for the green card?

It’s probably not an away one ..)) But no ... just logic and a little knowledge of physics.

[Kalmar]

Quote: Wedmak

Are you still wondering?

Everyone is wondering. It can be CD, BR, or something in between. It may even turn out to be some kind of variation of "Dagger". Everything is possible, but what really is there is just a guess.

[Wedmak]

and something in between

That's most likely.

It may even turn out to be some kind of variation of "Dagger".

It cannot, the Dagger is not placed in the UKKS.

[Mikhail Tynda]

In the days of the USSR there were a lot of photos and cinema (in those days of cinema!) Shooting of weapons available to the common man? Little. But ... Nevertheless, it was. Do we get by without a video?

[Kalmar]

Quote: Mikhail Tynda

In the days of the USSR there were a lot of photos and cinema (in those days of cinema!) Shooting of weapons available to the common man? Little. But ... Nevertheless, it was

Here, one of the Archangel’s deputies distinguished himself recently by a story about a recent visit to the hospital, which has been closed for the second year already. This is to say that the tendency to speak a lot and say a little (nothing) is clearly formed in the government.

"Zircon", let me remind you, so far exists only in words: in statements, promises and unverified rumors. No video, no photo, not even a intelligible cartoon. Therefore, all the same, I would very much like to "have a look" of something.

Quote: Mikhail Tynda

Do we get by without a video?

Where are we going? Moreover, our opinion on this subject is of little interest to those who could share vidosikami.

[Wedmak]

the tendency to say a lot and do little (nothing) was clearly formed in power.

But I would clarify that this disease started up mostly in the regions. For Moscow is far away, and here "I" is a local king ... They run only when someone important is coming from the center. And God forbid the president is ... then everything is done at the speed of hypersound. But you cannot put Putin on everyone's behalf for control.

[alexmach]

In the days of the USSR, there were a lot of photos and cinema (in those days, cinema!) Of shooting weapons accessible to the common man

How do you like "weaving" in "solo swimming"?

[g1washntwn]

Quote: voyaka uh

You need not a video, but at least one photo of Zircon.

So it reads between the lines "... as well as design documentation and test reports for a decent fee" You guys seem to be on Twitter and not on a military forum.

[fa2998]

Unnecessary secrecy is unnecessary here. Apparently they will not copy in appearance. Physical laws are the same for everyone, and foreign developments will look similar in appearance.
PS.In the 80s, under the photo with our aircraft there were signatures - a modern Soviet fighter, at the same time in many foreign magazines - both the brand, and the technical specifications and so on, in the public domain.

[glk63]

What's a madhouse? And the brand and performance characteristics are all according to "their" opinion) But if ours after that (according to your logic) discovered the true performance characteristics, this would be the disclosure of that very military secret)

[bayard]

Quote: voyaka uh

You need not a video, but at least one photo of Zircon.
To understand what it is: a cruise missile or another

Yes there was already a photograph - in the commentary one of your fellow countrymen laid out, from one of our aerospace exhibitions. Layout of course, but quite imagined.
So this is a hypersonic cruise missile with a ramjet engine, created on the basis of the Cold program. It is somewhat similar to the prototype of the American X-51, created ALSO on the basis of the Soviet "Cold" program ... but failed. And "Zircon" certainly looks much more perfect and mature than the demonstrator X-51.
I didn’t save the link, so I can’t share it, but it was posted (photo and link) in a comment on the VO.
The Zircon, as far as I remember, had problems with starting a real ship from the UKSK - a too powerful starting and accelerating block (stage) could turn the entire deck, therefore, equilibrium at the start, similar to the start of Onyx, is needed, over which they seem to be conjuring ... And from ground and air platforms, it seems that everything has already been worked out and modifications are being prepared for ground (the coastal Onyx launcher is suitable) and air (tested with the Tu-22M3, they are preparing the Su-34 for carriers, possibly the naval version of the Su-30 and a modification for the Su- 57 (2 pcs in internal bays)) media.

[voyaka uh]

Everyone laughed at that photo - they say the model has never flown.
The photo of the Boeing X-51 Waverider, which is always published when they write about Zircon,
at least fly. One flight was deemed successful. But the program was covered
due to low reliability. Boeing did not hide his X-51. There were a lot of pictures.
There would be a rocket with ramjet, why hide it? The Americans did not succeed.
On the contrary, they would advertise with might and main.
Therefore, I strongly suspect some booster-bounce-glider of the sea
(this time) start. Let's wait ...

[bayard]

Quote: voyaka uh

Therefore, I strongly suspect some booster-bounce-glider of the sea
(this time) start. Let's wait ...

The Chinese took this path (RSD with a glayler on the "head").
Nothing solid in such dimensions (size no more than "Onyx") and with such a range (from 500 to "over 1000 km.") Will not fit into the UKSK launch cup. So only a ramjet engine with supersonic combustion under the Cold program.
The fact that the ramjet engine can operate stably at such speeds was shown by the Americans with their X-51, but on it they showed that the problem of heat removal at such speeds can also be solved. But the fact that at such and greater speeds such a pepelats can also be directed, controlled, hit the target, Russia has already proved on its (already in service) "Vanguards" and quite successfully tested "Zircons". So no fiction, riddles and fables - a banal ramjet engine on a hypersonic CD.
And a range of 1000 km. for such a unit is quite realistic, because at such (hyper) speeds the fuel efficiency of the ramjet goes up sharply (we look at the tables, we are convinced), therefore, having both the starting weight and the fuel supply like the Onyx, the Zircon will fly much farther - just for the declared distance. But 1000 or more km. , it is rather already on inertia and without energetic maneuvering in the final section.

[voyaka uh]

"to manage, to hit the target, Russia has already proved on its (already in service)" Vanguards "////
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There are also many questions with this.
How accurate the Vanguards are, no one knows. They didn’t shoot at Kamchatka.
There were semi-trials in the depths of Russia. Americans claim to be successful
there were very few.
The vanguard was created rather as an "uncertainty factor" (a nuclear warhead is flying,
it’s unknown where - it’s scary), and spin up the US missile defense system for extra money.
Therefore, they placed Vanguards on old liquid ICBMs in the amount of 10-15 pieces.

[bayard]

At the declared speeds and "Daggers fly" - up to 10M, with maneuvering and high-precision guidance.
By the way, the American Pershing-2s also had radar guidance and, therefore, were controlled in the final section.
So with the Avangard, the idea is old, well-known - even a headlamp-shaped SA from the Soyuz spacecraft makes a bounce from the atmosphere (and even two) during a controlled landing. The American Shuttles and the Soviet Buran were gliding and controlled throughout the entire descent. The Soviet Union had the Bor program (a smaller model of a failed space fighter), which was planned to be used as megaton-class striking blocks for the Buran orbital combat ship (up to 15 Borov in one Buran). "Boras" were tested by real launches and launches from orbit, were controlled, maneuvered.
What is fundamentally different from him "Vanguard" is not particularly clear to me. It is clear that the "Vanguard" flies / glides longer at the border of the atmosphere, surrounded by plasma, is exposed to high temperatures for longer ... that is, new materials have appeared.
Heat resistant.
Which solved the problem.
What is the nature of doubt - it is not clear These are the old developments \ developments of the Soviet Union in the 60s.
Implemented today.
When the necessary materials and technologies appeared.
Those who have read the scientific and technical literature of the 60s, 70s ... and even the 80s are not surprised at all. The attitude to everything is rather like a long-term construction of frigates 22350 type - "WELL FINALLY".

[voyaka uh]

"The American Shuttles and the Soviet Buran were glided and controlled throughout the entire descent section" ////
-----
There the task was fundamentally different - maximum braking for
soft landing.
The combat vehicle must maintain high speed for as long as possible.
Otherwise, they will bring down.
Pershing-2, so that it hit the target, it was slowed down at the terminal site
to supersonic speed.

[g1washntwn]

Quote: voyaka uh

Americans claim that there were very few successful.

Yeah ... "I didn't read it, but I didn't like it" (c) Jen Psaki

[3danimal]

Compare the dimensions of the x-51 and the UKKS cell. It does not fit, and this despite the fact that the Waverider has an air launch and without a seeker and warhead (it would be even larger). Radically reduce the size will not succeed (have not yet invented the "absolute fuel"). Believing “in ours” is commendable, but one must be realistic anyway.

[bayard]

Quote: 3danimal

Compare the dimensions of the x-51 and the UKKS cell. It does not fit, and this despite the fact that the Waverider has an air launch and without GOS and B

Well, then compare with the dimensions of the "Zircon" (UKSK) the first Soviet-Russian demonstrator "Koala" - it will be larger than the X-51.
So what ?
The size of the Onyx was taken as a basis (from Zircon).
What is the range of Onyx?
550 km. on kerosene (on new fuel a little further).
Does Onyx have a ramjet engine?
He is .
What speed is needed for its (ramjet) launch?
2 - 2,5M.
The same speed is needed to launch the ramjet engine near the Zircon.
Therefore, the upper stage (stage) they can be approximately the same.
But the "Zircon" ramjet on supersonic combustion and the speed (and hence the fuel efficiency / range) is higher.
How much higher fuel efficiency, and therefore range, is established empirically.
The Zircon's officially declared range is over 1000 km.
Can there be such a range in such dimensions?

Does Onyx have 550 km of kerosene?
And on new fuel?
+ 10 - 15%, therefore 600 - 630 km.
So ?
So .
Now we take the table of the dependence of the fuel efficiency of the ramjet engine on the flight speed of 7M, 8M, 9M, 10M ...
What do we get at maximum?
Up to 1000 km and above at the maximum declared speed.
At what speed the rocket will actually be used is still unknown - a mystery. Military and state.
Nevertheless, the declared at the highest level range of 1000 km or more is quite realistic, achievable and feasible.
We will proceed from this.
And you can not believe that the Earth has the shape of a ball and moves around the Sun - this is your sovereign right.

[3danimal]

Listen, it is very unlikely that a radical breakthrough has been made in the creation of the scramjet, and even supercompact. Comparisons with the sizes of Onyx are not appropriate, even for “sofa analytics”.
There was no news about the scramjet tests, and then suddenly - the finished Zircon.
There were people on this forum who claimed (when there was less information) that the Dagger was a rocket with a scramjet, a prototype of Zircon. What engine does the dagger have? What is it based on?
IMHO, soon enough we will see new data on Zircon, confirming my doubts.

[bayard]

Every free person has a sovereign right to his IMHO.
But Truth is always one and sounds unequivocal. As a formulation of a military charter that does not allow double interpretation.
The scramjet engine has been tested on experimental versions of the Zircon since 2012.
A minimum.
This is not even counting the Soviet program "Cold".
The Dagger is an aerobalistic turbojet engine based on the Iskander missile.
These are completely different projects and completely different types of missiles. "Dagger" starts from an air carrier at an altitude of 18 m and at a speed of 000 M (2,2 km / h), a range of 2500 km, this is a swing. range of the MiG-2000 with such a load and with such a launch system (acceleration to 31 km / h at an altitude of 2500 km). The actual range of the "Dagger" after separation is about 18 km. And this is all with a starting weight of approx. 1200 tons.
The "Zircon" has a starting weight from the ground launcher / ship (!!!) of about 4 tons, but half of its starting weight is the weight of the starting upper stage / stage, which accelerates the actual "Zircon" to 2 - 2,5M, after which the scramjet is undocking and starting. And actually the flight to the goal.
If you want to send the "Dagger" to such a range, but at a land / sea start, then its starting weight will have to be at least doubled.
And there is such a project - the first stage from Iskander, the second - the Dagger itself. At the same time, the expected range is 1200 - 1500 km.
I hope the difference in fuel and weight efficiency will not have to be chewed separately?
Compare / count yourself?

And try to understand for yourself that if you personally do not know about any thing, this does not mean that it is not in nature.
"There are many such things in the world, friend Horace
What our wise men never dreamed of ... "

[3danimal]

What does the characteristics of an aeroballistic dagger have to do with it (the question about it was rhetorical)?
No photos, video about the scramjet test. This is usually tested in a flying laboratory (by analogy with the x-51 or "Cold"), not a specific product.
In the reasoning the post above was an important mistake: you decided that the size of the scramjet is similar to the Onyx engine.
And the design differs from the usual ramjet, where the incoming air flow is inhibited to subsonic speed and combustion occurs on it.
It is extremely unlikely that having the characteristics of the X-51 (but of a sea launch, with a huge booster and warhead and GSN), Zircon has significantly smaller dimensions.
Physics is in no hurry to obey the military regulations.

[bayard]

Quote: 3danimal

What does the characteristics of an aeroballistic dagger have to do with it (the question about it was rhetorical)?

Just to dissuade you that "Zircon" is a replica from "Kizhal". And in order to clearly show that on a solid-fuel rocket of given dimensions, such a range cannot be obtained in principle.

Quote: 3danimal

No photos, video about the scramjet test.

Normal privacy mode. Even in civilian industries, developers protect their latest developments from prying eyes, from competitors. What can we say about weapons - this is a matter of the country's security. It has always been like that for everyone.
And all these PR companies about future plans and breakthroughs ... remember the US disinformation program "Star Wars". An attempt to "crush with show-offs" is a favorite example of our Anglo-Saxon opponents.
And we used similar tricks. War is the path of deception (as one Chinese strategist said).
It was the Americans who first started talking about the Zircon when they recorded the first tests of such an apparatus. They began to shake the airwaves ... Russia had to admit that yes - such work is underway.
The rest was trumpeted / smashed by journalists, eager for fried, but not understanding in the subject exactly ANYTHING.

Quote: 3danimal

In the reasoning the post above was an important mistake: you decided that the size of the scramjet is similar to the Onyx engine.

This is not a mistake, but a terms of reference. The Zircon rocket should fit into a standard UKSK launch cup. And the maximum that of the existing there is placed, it is just "Onyx". It is larger than "Caliber" in diameter and takes up the entire volume of the launch cup.
Proceeding from this, "Zircon" cannot be larger than "Onyx" in any way - this is the starting terms of reference.
The ramjet launch is carried out at a speed of approx. 2,5M, which means that the start-acceleration stage is about the same for them. I will not repeat the rest, everything can be estimated / calculated according to the equations of relations - this is quick and easy.

Quote: 3danimal

Physics is in no hurry to obey the military regulations.

Physics has its own Charter (laws), knowing which and having carefully examined the subject of study, there can be no bewilderment.
But the implementation is really elegant.

[3danimal]

The launch of the scramjet takes place at higher speeds than conventional ramjet engines. You can choose and set tasks, but the level of technology (sometimes the laws of physics or the possibilities of industry) can introduce its limitations. An example is the story of the T-14 tank engine. With outstanding ordered features, but ... failed.

to dissuade you that "Zircon" is a replica from "Kizhal"

I never claimed this, recount the post. It was about the fact that there were many people here who believed that since the Dagger was “hypersonic,” it certainly had a scramjet and could be a prototype of Zircon.

[g1washntwn]

Quote: voyaka uh

One flight was deemed successful.

Use quotation marks for "successful". The test program could not be completed, so "hurray" for showing investors a rather thin one.

[3danimal]

Are you about the target barge, I hope?

[aszzz888]

There is also no data on the timing of the launch of a hypersonic missile from a submarine.

The main thing is that it is launch!

[Vyacheslav p]

It’s time already to test on the barmaley, near the Syrian M-4 and M-5)))

[Advisor to the Council of Advisers]

As the newspaper writes, the developers of the missile plan to confirm the ability of the Zircon to overcome the enemy's missile defense.

I hope this will not be a problem. I would also like to hear about tests on surface targets.

[bessmertniy]

Somehow a little offensive: the shooting took place in January, and "VO" was reported only in March. It is necessary to give a reprimand, perhaps, to the person responsible for the shooting, that he shot and did not report on time.

[Volder]

I hope next time they will launch at maximum range. But what kind of speed and maneuverability the missile defense will have is a good question!

[g1washntwn]

The Americans already have a headache, they don’t know how to close the windows in aerospace reconnaissance. Again, after all, these Russian pulnut know where and when, and the RTR data is needed, even though I draw it in Photoshop ...

[APASUS]

Surprising is the lack of video and photo launches, given that the satellites of our partners are constantly hanging there

[Rakovor]

Satellite capabilities are very exaggerated. It’s in Hollywood films that they almost track the movement of ants from them, but in reality it’s a little more complicated. Donbass is a confirmation of this.

[APASUS]

Quote: Rakovor

Satellite capabilities are very exaggerated. It’s in Hollywood films that they almost track the movement of ants from them, but in reality it’s a little more complicated.

You will probably be very surprised, but you have an outdated infa

Digital Globe has begun to market the Earth with a resolution of up to 30 cm / pixel.

[KCA]

Only a satellite in a geostationary orbit can hang over the area, its height is about 40 km, well, you can see everything, from a low orbit you can see something that is more than 000 cm (the most optimistic option), and on average something that is more than 10 cm , well, the Earth is covered with an atmosphere, and there are many different interesting processes in it that will distort the shooting object or simply make the shooting impossible, heavy fog, for example, cloudiness, and the flight of all satellites over the launch and fall area of ​​the missile warheads is known up to a second, the latest developments are launched just in the "window", well, or they choose an area above which there are no satellite orbits, for example, the Sary-Shagan training ground in Kazakhstan, it is not just that Russia is testing missile technology in a foreign country

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Rakovor

It’s in Hollywood films that they almost monitor the movement of ants

Moreover, the best films provide a side view!

[voyaka uh]

For satellites to constantly monitor a piece of the surface, you need
a long chain of satellites, then he did not hide them.
For this, they came up with mini-satellites, such as qubits.

[Wedmak]

The qubits do not possess even 10% of the ability to observe the surface from normal. Not much can be crammed into a cube with an edge of 50 cm.

[KCA]

You can’t stick a reflector mirror with a diameter of 2 meters to a qubit, with US reconnaissance satellites 2.4m to obtain an image with a frame pixel of 10-15cm surface

[kit88]

Quote: APASUS

Surprising is the lack of video and photo launches, given that the satellites of our partners are constantly hanging there

You will take a look at the weather in the region where the tests are carried out.
The number of clear days per month is 1.
The average cloud cover is 7,5 points.
I do not think that the testers are so smart that they can launch on the only clear day of the month.
And there’s a lot of things you’ll see from the satellite?

[APASUS]

Quote: kit88

You will take a look at the weather in the region where the tests are carried out.
The number of clear days per month is 1.
The average cloud cover is 7,5 points.
I do not think that the testers are so smart that they can launch on the only clear day of the month.

Have you ever seen (for example) a rocket launch from Baikonur in heavy rain or fog? The fact is that they try to conduct primary tests under normal conditions, then they are already tested in severe climatic conditions, using the maximum possible loads

[Rakovor]

Yes, where does the quality of the pictures? I meant the situation in general, such as weather conditions, the presence of satellites, etc. The satellite does not hang over one place all the time. So you can safely calculate the situation and, taking into account the weather conditions, make both firing and the transfer of troops, etc., and no one will notice anything.

[KCA]

This was demonstrated during the transfer of Iskander to the Kaliningrad region, when the "partners" learned about it from the reports of Russian TV during the exercises in 2014, and in 2016 they generally trolled the mattresses, put them in all their glory without disguise:

The Russian Ministry of Defense said that no one made a big secret from transporting the complex on the Ambal dry cargo ship.

“One Iskander was specially exposed even before being loaded into Ambal under a flying American reconnaissance satellite,” assured spokesman for the Russian Defense Ministry Major General Igor Konashenkov. According to him, this was done to "clarify the parameters of the American spacecraft." “We didn’t have to wait long -“ the American partners in the “revelatory impulse” themselves confirmed everything to us, ”Konashenkov emphasized.

[gel]

I would also like to see a photo ....

[gig334]

Something is silent about missiles with a nuclear engine. It’s good to be a patriot, but it’s better to be a patriot with brains.

[123456789]

Quote: gel

I would also like to see a photo ....

And I’m more interested in what happened with the hatch on the Storm, and isn’t this a test of weapons based on new physical principles (dirt)

[faterdom]

Quote: voyaka uh

You need not a video, but at least one photo of Zircon.

"Zircon" will be able to see only its recipient for free. But he will not have time to take a picture and even more so to put it on the network. Even if he has a 5G device or there, the iPhone is the last one ...

[Old26]

Quote: Whalebone

We are waiting for the vidos of the ship sunk by Zircon. After that, it will be possible to remain silent on this topic. Advertising for the whole world. There was a ship - and no.

Provided comrade that this target ship will move. Otherwise, if he will anchor - it’s the same as to shoot at a fixed target at the range

Quote: KCA

or choose an area over which there are no satellite orbits, for example, the Sary-Shagan test site in Kazakhstan

Do you seriously think that there are no reconnaissance orbits over Sary-Shagan?

[alexmach]

The ship is very beautiful.

[Old26]

Quote: glk63

What's a madhouse? And the brand and performance characteristics are all according to "their" opinion) But if ours after that (according to your logic) discovered the true performance characteristics, this would be the disclosure of that very military secret)

What's a madhouse? Too much secrecy. WHEN Western publications also published the appearance (and sometimes photographs) of Soviet technology, while in our magazines we continued to write "modern Soviet fighter" or "modern Soviet BOD", or "Soviet missile on parade on Red Square"
Kamrad fa2998 (Andrey) exaggerated a little about performance characteristics. Even if they did give performance characteristics, they were clearly not obtained first-hand, and many were "theoretical" or "calculated". In certain cases, they coincided with real performance characteristics, in another - "were far-fetched"
But as for the names of the ships - they gave them a breakdown both by type and by name, while in our country it was impossible to understand which type the Admiral Isakov was referring to, and which was Vice-Admiral Drozd. ... Although at times the type of ship was not according to our, but according to the western classification. But this was most often corrected in subsequent editions.

[fa2998]

Quote: glk63

What's a madhouse? And the brand and performance characteristics are all according to "their" opinion) But if ours after that (according to your logic) discovered the true performance characteristics, this would be the disclosure of that very military secret)

Unfortunately, both the brand and the performance characteristics in foreign sources were very accurate, but Soviet readers learned about them in 10-15 years.

[Old26]

Quote: voyaka uh

How accurate the Vanguards are, no one knows. They didn’t shoot at Kamchatka ..

They shot. According to Kura with the PR of the 13th division. There were 5 launches under the LCI. One of which (the second) was unsuccessful.

Quote: voyaka uh

There were semi-trials in the depths of Russia. Americans claim to be successful
there were very few.

A Topol-E usually shoots at Sary-Shagan from Kapyar. And "I am tormented by doubts" that Topol-E was able to use Avangard as a BO ...

Quote: voyaka uh

Therefore, they placed Vanguards on old liquid ICBMs in the amount of 10-15 pieces.

In the amount of 12. two regiments of 6 missiles. Moreover, two "non-standard" regiments for regiments on light missiles usually have 10 silos. But here everything depends on the division's PR itself. There were 6 silo shelves

[voyaka uh]

"They shot. At Kura from the PR of the 13th division." ///
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With vanguard planing?
The avant-garde was launched as an ordinary warhead vertically.

[Old26]

Quote: voyaka uh

"They shot. At Kura from the PR of the 13th division." ///
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With vanguard planing?
The avant-garde was launched as an ordinary warhead vertically.

And I wrote somewhere that with "gliding", Alexey ?. My answer:

"They shot. At Kura from the PR of the 13th division"

the answer to your phrase that they didn’t shoot at Kura.
Furthermore. If you look at my answers in the topics about the "Vanguard", you can see that I always express my doubts that the "Vanguard" has passed the entire cycle of tests, including, as you say, "planing" of the full-scale "Vanguard".
The Americans have relatively close to their "vigilant voice" of the early warning system - the "Cobra Dine" radar on Shemiya Island. The target detection range is about 3500 km. Kura is located at a distance of about 900 km. So they can easily track all the "evolutions". Such controlled units are usually launched along Sary-Shagan. But now only the Topol-E with a significantly lower payload is being allowed through it. This means that only the large-scale model of the Vanguard could be tested, and not the Vanguard itself. And there is a minus. It is very difficult to check the possibilities of flying along the "snake" or Zenger's trajectory because of the small distance between the start and finish points.