U.S. Navy resumes naval convoy training exercises in Europe

The US Navy has been conducting naval exercises under the name Atlantic Convoy Ops since the end of February this year. The main objective of these exercises is to ensure the transfer by sea of ​​personnel and military equipment of the American army to Europe through the waters of the Atlantic.

For the first time since the end of the Cold War, the US Navy has been conducting naval caravan exercises from the US coast to Europe across the Atlantic. Cover for maritime transport carrying personnel and equipment for participating in the Defender 2020 exercises is provided by an aircraft carrier strike group led by the nuclear carrier "Dwight D. Eisenhower", P-8 Poseidon aircraft and one strike submarine. According to the scenario of exercises, surface and submarine warships using aviation They worked out the “clearing” of the future shipping lane before the convoy passed, starting from the coastal waters of the USA and further to the Atlantic all the way to the European shores.

Our ships can no longer expect to operate in a safe place on the east coast or simply cross the Atlantic unhindered

- said Vice Admiral Andrew Lewis, commander of the 2nd fleet The USA, which controls the western and north Atlantic.

The convoy used civilian chartered ships as transports carrying military equipment.

As stated in the command of the American Navy, naval convoys remain the most effective way to deliver military cargo to another continent. According to US military planning, more than 90% of military cargo will come from the United States to the theater of operations through sea transport.

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[aszzz888]

As stated in the command of the US Navy, naval convoys remain most effective a method of delivering military cargo to another continent.

What about the "safest"?

[Thrall]

Sharks will be full

[aszzz888]

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Sharks will be full smile

I suppose the crabs will be full.

[Shurik70]

Our ships can no longer expect to operate in a safe place on the east coast or simply cross the Atlantic unhindered

Oops ... Somewhere a leak ... Um ... Someone ...

[Terenin]

Quote: aszzz888

As stated in the command of the US Navy, naval convoys remain most effective a method of delivering military cargo to another continent.

What about the "safest"?

If they have efficiency associated with cash flows, and security with agreements in the framework of international cooperation, it’s interesting What will the USA choose?

[bessmertniy]

It seems to me the whole point is in fascist shortcomings. It is they who threaten the American convoys, which are sent to help Europe. In this dark business, it is important to hit the den. And I even know where the lair is located.

[knn54]

If there are WHERE and WHERE.

[Masha]

Our ships can no longer expect to operate in a safe place on the east coast or simply cross the Atlantic unhindered

Overwhelmed?
So dust off!

[Serg65]

The main objective of these exercises is to ensure the transfer by sea of ​​personnel and military equipment of the American army to Europe through the waters of the Atlantic.

But this is already serious, here it already smacks of kerosene!

[Terenin]

Quote: Serg65

The main objective of these exercises is to ensure the transfer by sea of ​​personnel and military equipment of the American army to Europe through the waters of the Atlantic.

But this is already serious, here it already smacks of kerosene!

Did not know, that "calibers" work on kerosene ...
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[Serg65]

Greetings Gennady
For 10 years, the Americans did not remember their Atlantic convoys, what made them remember this? Maybe caliber!

[Masha]

Sergey, hello there!
She is exceptional ... they fly on her ..

[saigon]

Well, in general, strange people are admirals, all theories of sea power in my head.
And to think there is no war-why convoy?
War, but where did the convoy send from?
On the ports of Coy for the transfer of a nuclear strike and the question of the convoys removed as completely irrelevant.

[Serg65]

Quote: saigon

Well, in general, strange people are admirals, all theories of sea power in my head.

Nobody will immediately throw vigorous bonbs, from here admiral theories. For what period of hostilities there will be enough stocks of American equipment and ammunition in Europe, no one knows, from here and worries about convoys ... and not so much admirals as generals from the Committee of Chiefs of Staff. The return of the Russian nuclear submarines, surface ships and long-range aviation to the expanses of the Atlantic greatly enhanced these experiences!

Quote: saigon

On the ports of Coy for the transfer of a nuclear strike and the question of the convoys removed as completely irrelevant.

A nuclear strike will not only cross out, but also stop the war itself, as there will be no one to fight!

[askort154]

More than 2 feet under the keel - I can’t wish.

[aszzz888]

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More than 2 feet under the keel - I can’t wish. no

Yes, and so much "wished" .

[NordUral]

Better 2000 over the masts.

[Prisoner]

"... Convoys remain the most efficient way to deliver military supplies ..." Do these people study history in their colleges and universities, or don't they need it? In the event of war and with the current means of reconnaissance and detection, only oil stains and debris on the surface of the Atlantic will remain.

[Brylevsky]

Do these people study history in their colleges and universities, or is it not a tribe for them?

But there is no other way to deliver goods. Aircraft are too expensive ... The sea was and will be the only bridge for military transport, connecting the Old and New Worlds. With an appropriate level of coverage of cargo ships by warships and aircraft, why not? We, too, Kamchatka and other "north" due to sea freight are surviving - there will be no "northern deliveries", in the same year our north will bend too. You don't get much dung with military "boards" and the prime cost of such "cargo transportation" will not even be gold - it will be diamond.

[HAM]

It would be better to work out an escape from Europe to the states, much more useful ....

[Alien From]

It seems to me that even for striped beetles such protection of the convoy would not be affordable ....)))

[Brylevsky]

However, during the Second World War there were naval convoys? Even through the Pacific Ocean they went ... for example, from the west coast of the USA to Vladivostok. It turns out that it was economically viable, otherwise they would not go.

[Prisoner]

History, gentlemen, history must be studied by her darling. In particular, the history of these same convoys.

[Brylevsky]

History, gentlemen, we must study history

There was no alternative to sea convoys, and there are not, and are unlikely to be. There is such a point of view: if all sea transportation is interrupted for at least six months, then one half of the world will freeze, the other will die of starvation. History, science, of course, is necessary and it is necessary to know history. But when it comes to logistics, the first place comes not from history, but from mathematics.

[Alien From]

This is of course true, just do not forget the cost of operating AUG. And of course, beetles never do anything for nothing, without their own benefit.

[PSih2097]

According to the scenario of the exercise, surface and submarine warships with the help of aviation worked out "clearing" the future shipping lane before the convoy passed, starting from the coastal waters of the United States and further into the Atlantic all the way to European shores.

I wonder who was the object of the "clearing" there?

[Rostislav]

In the ocean, you can’t hide from a spy satellite. And the rest is a matter of technology. So you can forget about naval convoys, the main defense of which was stealth.

[Glory1974]

In the ocean, you can’t hide from a spy satellite. And the rest is a matter of technology.

This is the whole thing in technology.
Who will heat them and how? Hundreds of German submarines could not stop escorting convoys during the war. If the mess begins now, far from hundreds can enter the business, I think no more than a couple dozen submarines. In the best case, a couple of dozen ships will be sunk and that’s all.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Rostislav

In the ocean, you can’t hide from a spy satellite. And the rest is a matter of technology. So you can forget about naval convoys, the main defense of which was stealth.

Sneak was a defense only at the beginning of WWII. And then the protection of the KON was the direct escort of the KON (escort AV and EM, frigates, corvettes and other trifles), and then anti-submarine search and strike groups with escort aircraft carriers that "cleaned" the transition areas. On the routes next to the enemy, KON additionally covered groups of short and long range cover (the latter included even LK and AV).

And during the Cold War, NATO covered the routes of the Atlantic KOH with a defense in depth, in which all forces were involved, up to the AUG (after the decommissioning of anti-submarine ABs). It is for this that the Viking squadron appeared in the universal air wings.

[Brylevsky]

In the ocean, you can’t hide from a spy satellite

"The eye sees, but has no tooth" To see does not mean to destroy.

[Alexey RA]

The US Navy has been conducting naval exercises under the name Atlantic Convoy Ops since the end of February this year. The main objective of these exercises is to ensure the transfer by sea of ​​personnel and military equipment of the American army to Europe through the waters of the Atlantic.

Why are they encrypted? This is the usual REFORGER.

A carrier strike group led by the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier Dwight D. Eisenhower, P-2020 Poseidon aircraft and one attack submarine provide cover for maritime transports carrying personnel and equipment to participate in the Defender-8 exercises.

Well. And someone wrote that the AUG is a purely offensive structure, and it has no defensive tasks. And she does not cover the convoys ...

[GTYCBJYTH2021]

Is there any experience of guarding convoys with AUGs? At -84 in Tikhiy they worked, the "Aquatoria" training ground, the ICBM was waiting for - "Kitty Hawk" passed - 12 ships guarded it, the refueling tanker does not count .....

[Alexey RA]

Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021

Is there really any experience in guarding AUGs convoys?

Must watch. how was the cover. In the classic Atlantic scenario of the Cold War, an AUG with a universal wing was deployed at the turn of the PLO, covering the KOH route from air and submarine threats from the north and northeast and supporting the forces of the NATO PLO.

[GTYCBJYTH2021]

In the teachings and assumptions this was ...... If the aircraft carrier was GUARDED, what could it guard? Herself.....

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

One bravado in messages, and there are not so many reasons to calm yourself.

Russia needs to increase the number of multipurpose nuclear submarines and the number of bases for them, moreover, disguised and sheltered from surveillance and protected from a massive missile strike by hundreds of Tomahawks at a time, ideally cut down directly in the rock or in the form of huge fortified canopies, so that in case of war it would be possible go to the open sea and drown such convoys.

So far, we have not many means that can attack an American convoy carrying hundreds of armored vehicles in its womb. And all our bases and boats on them are in full view - the Americans see how many boats we have at the bases, which boats we have at these bases and see when the boats leave the bases.

Attacking a convoy that accompanies a whole AUG is not so simple, it will be guarded by a large number of destroyers from missile and torpedo attacks and, in calculation, they will keep the possibility of a missile strike by one or two nuclear submarines at a time.
The perimeter at a distance of firing range of Granites, Onyxes and Zircons will be patrolled by nuclear submarines (US multipurpose nuclear submarines for 60 pieces) and US anti-submarine aircraft (which are also numerous).
Getting to such an escort will be very difficult.

It is especially worth considering the moment that in the event of an attack on us, all our naval bases will be attacked and how many boats will remain in our ranks is unknown, if any.

[Brylevsky]

Attacking the convoy that accompanies the whole AUG is not so simple

Bravo, colleague! One of the few sober thoughts here ...

[Barmaleyka]

simply mattresses stubbornly preparing for war on the European continent

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

simply mattresses stubbornly preparing for war on the European continent

Write more specifically - they are preparing for war with Russia.

[Barmaleyka]

Well, not with Germany, it’s clear

[Amateur]

According to US military planning, more than 90% of military cargo will come from the United States to the theater of operations through sea transport.

The remaining 10% of the Russian Strategic Missile Forces will be delivered to America absolutely free.

[Brylevsky]

The remaining 10% of the Russian Strategic Missile Forces will be delivered to America absolutely free.

Why is this bravado? And they will not "deliver" to us 100%? They, at least, are actually conducting joint navigation and maneuvering exercises. And here - only on paper ... So think about who has better preparation for a real war. Our interaction between the combat and civilian fleets is a complete props, which is equally unnecessary for either the heads of shipping companies or the military themselves.

[Amateur]

whose preparation for a real war is better.

Preparing for a real war is NATO’s maneuvers in Poland and the Baltic states. Who are they going to fight against in Europe?
Well, the Strategic Missile Forces - that would not be particularly relearned.

[Brylevsky]

Joint sailing as part of a convoy in peacetime is also a preparation for war. I repeat:

We have the interaction of the combat and civilian fleets - a solid props, equally unnecessary to the leaders of shipping companies, or to the military themselves.

I am a sailor, and I know what I'm talking about.

[GTYCBJYTH2021]

In the last century in Kamchatka, I caught fish on BMRT, there was a case when diesel fuel was bunkered with diesel fuel .... at night .... But this was under the Soviet regime .....