750 billion rubles of debts written off to Russian defense industry enterprises

750 billion rubles of debts written off to Russian defense industry enterprises

Debts will be written off to the Russian military-industrial complex. According to Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov, the debts of Russian defense industry enterprises in the amount of 750 billion rubles will be restructured, about half of this amount will be written off.


Speaking to the board of the Ministry of Industry and Trade of Tatarstan, Borisov confirmed that the debts of defense industry enterprises in the amount of 750 billion rubles would be restructured.

(...) 750 billion rubles will be restructured for defense industry enterprises. Half of them will be practically written off, the rest will be restructured for 15 years at 3% per annum

- said the Deputy Prime Minister, adding that this will free oneself from huge payments to banks, free up funds for their own development.

Earlier it was reported that 90% of the debts of the Russian defense industry enterprises are accounted for: the United Aircraft Corporation (UAC), the United Shipbuilding Corporation (OSK), Uralvagonozavod (UVZ), High-Precision Complexes and Almaz-Antey. The military-industrial complex loan portfolio is about 2 trillion. rubles and defense industry enterprises are not able to pay loans to financial institutions, often sending all profits to pay off interest, thereby increasing the profits of banks, instead of investing in production and paying salaries.

The release of a closed presidential decree regarding the debt problem of the military-industrial complex of the Russian Federation was reported at the end of last year. In January of this year, the head of VTB Andrey Kostin said that the problem of the debts of the defense industry enterprises had been solved.


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  1. The leader of the Redskins 6 March 2020 09: 59 New
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    What time? !! And why not retirees and low-income debts for a communal apartment? Give people the opportunity to rest, rather than endless running in a wheel ?!
    1. St Petrov 6 March 2020 10: 03 New
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      let's help. than I can. if you have a difficult situation, I think here you will be thrown off as much as you can. different things happen in life

      1. The leader of the Redskins 6 March 2020 10: 05 New
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        You write nonsense. As if you’re living in another country ... Thank God, at work, it’s all right to pay and work. But I also see that a little further than the nose.
        1. St Petrov 6 March 2020 10: 07 New
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          Well, as usual. we have all the opposition - she lives normally, but worries about the people of Russia. Our opposition dreams of making people happy, and while tyranny is sworn and at work, they pay everything right

          he also dreams about how he helps pensioners



        2. Serg65 6 March 2020 10: 37 New
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          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          But I also see that a little further than the nose.

          It’s interesting, Comrade Leader, in Russia and Ukraine you don’t notice the Nazi occupation of the country, but in Russia, note every speck of dust, interesting!
          1. loki565 6 March 2020 11: 42 New
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            It’s interesting, Comrade Leader, in Russia and Ukraine you don’t notice the Nazi occupation of the country, but in Russia, note every speck of dust, interesting!

            Are you hinting at sho ??? here all the indigenous Muscovites)))
            1. Serg65 6 March 2020 12: 26 New
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              laughing Exceptionally indigenous, and in the fifth generation!
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            2. Xnumx vis 6 March 2020 12: 36 New
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              Quote: loki565
              It’s interesting, Comrade Leader, in Russia and Ukraine you don’t notice the Nazi occupation of the country, but in Russia, note every speck of dust, interesting!

              Are you hinting at sho ??? here all the indigenous Muscovites)))

              Not otherwise Karaite! I, Karaimka, a native of Crimea in the one hundred and fifth generation .. Daughter of a rabbi and a mullah ...
              1. Omskgasmyas 8 March 2020 05: 30 New
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                +100500! I laugh wildly!
        3. Hagalaz 6 March 2020 11: 42 New
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          You took the conversation in the wrong direction and raking for it. Although the attitude to the article really should be twofold. Because the top management of our military-industrial complex often lives on beyond its means or there is a misuse of funds. And debts are written off.
          1. antivirus 6 March 2020 12: 24 New
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            The loan portfolio of the defense industry is about 2 trillion. rubles and the defense industry enterprises are not able to pay loans to financial institutions, often sending all profits to pay off interest, thereby increasing the profits of banks, instead of investing in production and paying salaries.
            ABOUT FATS - IT IS NECESSARY INSIDE THE HOLDINGS TO SEPARATE THE DEBTS AND WRITING OFF WRITTEN AND RECYCLE RESTRICTEDLY FOR ALL TECH. TO CHAINS, NOT ONLY FOR THE HEAD OFFICE TO CHARGE FOR CONTINUED “they are fattening” and investing in perspective production - not taking new loans (get into bondage again)
            market control is needed from the state-va (Borisova)
            1. Hagalaz 6 March 2020 12: 28 New
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              I agree with that. This is the correct formulation of the question.
            2. orionvitt 6 March 2020 16: 03 New
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              These debts have been going on since the 90s. It is necessary to solve the issue of competent banking policy in the state. Of course, with such bank interest, as in Russia, not such debts will run.
              1. antivirus 6 March 2020 17: 14 New
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                they rinse me for contesting the construction of the ocean fleet - and we have lost the slave class in the defense industry - universal Umpelts and there are simply no literate cnc-shnikov in plenty. everything rests on "what are the goals — only state defense orders at an affordable price or --- preparation of the defense industry complex for a crisis — a war on 1–2 -3 fronts. lengthy, with mobilization not only in the army, but also in the defense industry-military-industrial complex. than divisions. are there Strategic Missile Forces and other contract servicemen (sitting on a post basis, watching over their site) how to put a competent worker to the machine (and to what?) where do they take it into account? how to remove the window installer from VOHR-ChOP?
                the country is ready only for the exchange of poison strikes and ... to paradise .. not ready for sanctions, isolation, refusal from external bargaining and import, maintaining order inside and on territories occupied during the war (and upon retreating we will run into deserts without villages ( milk, firewood, roads) - there are no logistics personnel and citizen specialists
              2. Alf
                Alf 6 March 2020 18: 59 New
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                Quote: orionvitt
                It is necessary to solve the issue of competent banking policy in the state.

                The Russian government does not know how otherwise. The term "kudrinomika" recall?
        4. Piramidon 6 March 2020 11: 48 New
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          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          And why not retirees and low-income debts for a communal apartment? ... Thank God, I’m working properly and paying everything

          Well, then why are you constantly crying? I’m retired, I haven’t been working for 5 years, I don’t eat grouse and pineapple, but I also have no debts in the housing and utilities sector. I also help children with grandchildren.
          1. SovAr238A 9 March 2020 16: 33 New
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            Quote: Piramidon
            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            And why not retirees and low-income debts for a communal apartment? ... Thank God, I’m working properly and paying everything

            Well, then why are you constantly crying? I’m retired, I haven’t been working for 5 years, I don’t eat grouse and pineapple, but I also have no debts in the housing and utilities sector. I also help children with grandchildren.


            Well, now tell me that you have a pension of 12 thousand ... Like the vast majority of pensioners in our country ...
        5. Mikhail Tynda 6 March 2020 13: 26 New
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          Why do we need the army and the defense industry? Some waste. But ... We do not want to feed our own - we will feed strangers. And strangers voracious and without politicians will take, but not their own and what they want.
      2. Lannan Shi 6 March 2020 10: 17 New
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        Quote: c-Petrov
        let's help. than I can. if you have a difficult situation, I think here you will be thrown off as much as you can. different things happen in life

        old people point org. Do not forget to tell later exactly what helped, but as you know um ... to speak on the site, not toss the bags.
        1. St Petrov 6 March 2020 10: 22 New
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          the site is supposed to speak only with tears in their eyes in caring for others
          Did not read Siebeltrude from photography posts? He would fit in perfectly here with concern for the people

    2. ximkim 6 March 2020 10: 22 New
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      NOT an option. Since nothing is written off to the source of money, only profit. There is a military-industrial complex, but like a swamp ..
    3. EnGenius 6 March 2020 10: 24 New
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      If we divide 750 billion rubles into 46 million pensioners, we get 16 thousand 300 rubles per person. That is, in fact, the equivalent of 2 minimum pensions per person. Amounts seem huge, but do not forget about retirees or strategic enterprises. Many of the defense industry enterprises collected debts of both dollar and ruble at very high interest rates and many even now cannot be re-credited due to the pre-bankrupt state of debts. So the amount within the country is not super-gigantic. In any case, the state would be forced to buy defense industry products at inflated prices, and banks would receive wild interest on debts - they are apparently trying to avoid this.
      1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk 6 March 2020 10: 44 New
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        The defense industry enterprises survived without orders in the period from about 1995 to 2008 but, and many more. Someone who survived, but of course loaned by the most indulge, so the decision to restructure the right
        1. Dmitry V. 6 March 2020 10: 57 New
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          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          The defense industry enterprises survived without orders in the period from about 1995 to 2008 but, and many more. Someone who survived, but of course loaned by the most indulge, so the decision to restructure the right


          That is, the state appoints a director — he is recruiting relatives or ineffective managers with salaries ten times higher than qualified engineers and designers, machine tools, gaining loans, overstating the costs of reconstruction and repair, inflating the staff of useless employees — and is he invited to write off this?
          Here, for each enterprise, it is necessary to restore order - where are the debts from when the supposedly most unparalleled ones are issued?
          1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk 6 March 2020 11: 22 New
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            Dmitry, have you worked a lot at defense industry enterprises to write this? I have seen several such enterprises, I have never seen any tenfold. The difference in the salary of the top (commercial, financial director, production director, etc.) and the skilled worker is two and a half, well, three times maximum. And it happens and a half. In the last place of work, the salary of tops is about three times higher than the average salary of the worker in the factory. So average, not skilled workers.
            1. antivirus 6 March 2020 12: 31 New
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              I have seen several such enterprises, I have never seen any tenfold. The difference in the salary of the top (commercial, financial director, production director, etc.) and the skilled worker is two and a half, well, three times maximum. And it happens and a half.
              they started optimistically, but 13 salaries or prizes from the head office of the daughter’s director (to the account department)? Is Chelyaba growing and developing?
              1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk 6 March 2020 13: 37 New
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                Firstly, I talked about the tops, the director of the salary may be higher, but not many times. Well twice. And bonuses, yes, they do, but as a rule bonuses are related to the size of the salary.
                That is, bonuses are far from at all enterprises. Where there is - sn tops below normal. For example, at one of the large enterprises of Transbaikalia, my salary was about 1,8-2,15 higher than a highly skilled worker. At 1,8 - without an annual bonus, and 2,15 - with an annual bonus.
                And about the schemes - I’m talking about the schemes where they are. I'm still finder, so they go through me :)))
                1. antivirus 6 March 2020 14: 18 New
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                  the topic of boobs is not disclosed - there are schemes and financial and .... equipment transfusion from empty to empty.
                  profit at the plant-0, in the UK (holding) -100%. how costing on paper clips to make.
                  on the topic: for Borisov, "the point of attraction of costs" 750 billion rubles where? - s \ pl turner -ChPushnika or top (beginning shop- PDO-PEO)?

                  no one to escape from the question for whom GOZ ????????????? and further ?

                  for the top-a wise manager and his vacation in Turkey or a turner and a recreation center in the same town (max to go to the region center + Belokurikha or Zol ring) ???? and further ?
                  1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk 6 March 2020 17: 30 New
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                    Quote: antivirus
                    the topic of boobs is not disclosed - there are schemes and financial and .... equipment transfusion from empty to empty.

                    No offense, but I probably know much more about them than you :))))
                    However, to know is not to apply. On supply schemes - I'm afraid you have no idea how this is being controlled now, I just say honestly - you are tormented to do it.
                    Quote: antivirus
                    profit at the plant-0, in the UK (holding) -100%. how costing on paper clips to make.

                    Easy! But here it’s impossible to roll up to the military representative with such expenses - he doesn’t want to sit, so he quickly fixes it. In other words, no one forbids paying the factory management company "for paper clips," but the state will not pay 100% of the costs to the factory. As, by the way, and bonuses to the management :)))
                    Quote: antivirus
                    on the topic: for Borisov, "the point of attraction of costs" 750 billion rubles where?

                    Actually - 375 billion, half is forgiven, the rest is debt restructuring.
                    1. antivirus 6 March 2020 18: 48 New
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                      375 billion, half is forgiven, the rest is debt restructuring.
                      if you count "from the 90s and 00s" and then overriditing with 28%? 3% is space

                      I haven’t been working in the defense industry for many years, I’m only standing on the porch
                      1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk 7 March 2020 11: 15 New
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                        Quote: antivirus
                        375 billion, half is forgiven, the rest is debt restructuring.
                        if you count "from the 90s and 00s" and then overriditing with 28%?

                        let's not fantasize on unfamiliar topics. There are no such% banking for a long time. Loans in those years were short, for a year and a half, the refinancing was already at new interest rates, so that no one has been paying 28% for a long time
                      2. antivirus 7 March 2020 11: 30 New
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                        for a long time there are no such%. and how to build a boiler room (reconstruction, etc.) in how many years is it possible? with IP, garage, warehouses, Main production, auxiliary + procurement.
                        indeed, the last 10 years (many before) in the defense industry complex dropped all minor ballasts. even earlier housing and communal services and social programs (from 96g to 05g)
                        now you only have the assembly left, and many or some cotter pins and other "snot" are sharpened in the "garages". could lower the cost. and it turned out -------- 3-8% is also not enough for 100 tr \ m to all workers (for max pension according to modern coefficients).
                        the proportions of the economy and factories (not holdings) are all equally viable.
                        is it possible that everything will look good in the face of rockets and ChTZ, specifically enterprises, but in general, the standard of living in the cities and the country's development is not a flagship? but it is not your merit and problems. Forward to the victory of the Bubble over the uniform development of the whole country!
                      3. Andrei from Chelyabinsk 7 March 2020 12: 00 New
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                        Quote: antivirus
                        now you only have the assembly

                        Do not smack nonsense, it hurts. Antivirus, I held back for a long time, but it’s just impossible to read.
                        Let it be known to you that the military-industrial complex at one time introduced the 20 + 1 rule. This rule indicates that the state is ready to pay a margin of exactly 1% of the cost for all purchased products and assemblies. This was specifically done to exclude gasket companies that do nothing themselves but have a lot of resale. And if the military-industrial complex retained only the assembly, then it would have made profit only for the assembly.
                        At the same time, the military representative will not just accept the same purchased units from the defense industry enterprise - he will force them to submit the manufacturer's estimates to them, confirmed by the military mission operating on the manufacturer’s territory. I am silent about the new system of special accounts.
                      4. antivirus 7 March 2020 12: 46 New
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                        put me minus and so
                        I'm talking about the development of the entire defense industry, are you about order in the defense order, and about garages there is no such thing in the country?
      2. Alf
        Alf 6 March 2020 19: 03 New
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        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        The difference in the salary of the top (commercial, financial director, production director, etc.) and the skilled worker is two and a half, well, three times maximum. And it happens and a half.

        What? Two or a half times? At Kuznetsovo ZP, the worker’s specialist is 30-35 thousand, the director’s corps BEGINS with 500 thousand.
        1. antivirus 7 March 2020 11: 18 New
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          Do not break the faith of the dreamer, he writes well. lose inspiration
        2. Andrei from Chelyabinsk 7 March 2020 11: 19 New
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          Quote: Alf
          On Kuznetsovo ZP specialist workers-30-35 thousand

          I’m talking about what I saw myself.
      3. SovAr238A 9 March 2020 16: 49 New
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        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        Dmitry, have you worked a lot at defense industry enterprises to write this? I have seen several such enterprises, I have never seen any tenfold. The difference in the salary of the top (commercial, financial director, production director, etc.) and the skilled worker is two and a half, well, three times maximum. And it happens and a half. In the last place of work, the salary of tops is about three times higher than the average salary of the worker in the factory. So average, not skilled workers.



        Samara "Motor-builder" - the head of the electroplating shop - 3,5-4 million rubles of average annual income, taking into account all premiums.
        The average salary in galvanic is from 18 to 25 thousand.
        How many times will that be the difference?


        Pens, notebooks, rulers, heaters - all are bought by employees themselves, for their money ...
        For it does not stand out.
        Save pancake.
    4. Tochilka 6 March 2020 11: 24 New
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      One to one as in our factory! 46 deputies alone !!! And an artistic whistle in the media what awesome developments we have. Meanwhile, highly skilled workers have been reduced.
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        Quote: Tochilka
        One to one as in our factory! 46 deputies alone !!! And an artistic whistle in the media what awesome developments we have. Meanwhile, highly skilled workers have been reduced.

        You are not talking about PJSC Kuznetsov, are you talking? You describe the picture as you look into the water.
        1. Tochilka 6 March 2020 19: 22 New
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          PJSC Mikron Zelenograd
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            Alf 6 March 2020 19: 26 New
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            Quote: Tochilka
            PJSC Mikron Zelenograd

            Hmm, the offices are different, the picture is the same.
    5. Tavrik 6 March 2020 13: 22 New
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      Enterprises come in many forms of ownership. Not all state ones.
  2. pavelty 6 March 2020 11: 38 New
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    Of course, the hard workers who are at the machine should also receive money, and lending from banks for enterprises at insane interest is a so-so successful solution ... and why comrades are weaving about pensioners, I did not understand
  3. ximkim 6 March 2020 18: 25 New
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    So they survive now. These loans, this is a noose for enterprises. Again .. our defense industry is created only for the production of what attacks and what defends. (And the sales market does not increase accordingly). oriented., therefore, a pit with a requesting hand will be quiet and slow ..
  4. SovAr238A 9 March 2020 16: 47 New
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    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
    The defense industry enterprises survived without orders in the period from about 1995 to 2008 but, and many more. Someone who survived, but of course loaned by the most indulge, so the decision to restructure the right


    Yes, every 3-4 years all defense industry debts are written off from us if you don’t remember, but that doesn’t prevent them from collecting as much again in 3-4-5 years that they would again be removed from the state ...
    UralWagonFactory the state issued almost 30 billion money to pay off debts in 2016-2017, so what?
    In 2016, with an annual revenue of less than 100 billion rubles, the plant had real debts - 276 billion rubles!

    In 2018, after many injections from the state, the debt became 150 billion rubles.
    But it’s still 20 times more profit ...

    And most importantly - URALWagonZavod - kills all its allies with its defaults.

    All subcontractors did the work, paid for their purchases, paid their employees, and UralVagonZavod refuses to pay them ...
    And then what?
    Do you know how factories and enterprises crumble due to the crisis of non-payments? Especially if you don’t have a powerful hand in government?

    Instantly, the director will also go to prison according to the Labor Code of the Russian Federation.

    Not only the Ministry of Defense is suing Uralvagonzavod, many companies are suing him, and the number of cases does not decrease much from month to month. In March, UVZ received 14 claims, in April - 16, in May - 15, in June - 10, in July - 14, and since the beginning of August - 5.
    The range of activities of organizations suing Uralvagonzavod and the amount of claims are interesting. Izhstal plant (producer of stainless and special steel grades) requires 88,077 thousand rubles from it, SG-Trans (carrier of petrochemical goods) - 30,914 thousand, Ugra bank - 91,617 million, Uralstankoservis (supplier of machine tools ) - 1,017 million, the Federal Freight Company - over a million (in two lawsuits) Lytkarinsky Optical Glass Plant - almost 9,9 million (two lawsuits), Degtyarev Plant (manufacturer of small arms and cannon weapons) - about 24 million (two lawsuits) ) “The flow of claims against the Uralvagonzavod testifies to his lack of temporarily free funds. And they would not have been served if the company paid its contractors in time. As a rule, lawsuits are filed with the courts when all payment terms stipulated by the contracts have already passed ”

    Our defense industry has rotted - the entire top rotten ...
  • St Petrov 6 March 2020 12: 15 New
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    If we divide 750 billion rubles into 46 million pensioners, we get 16 thousand 300 rubles per person. That is, in fact, the equivalent of 2 minimum pensions per person. Amounts seem huge, but do not forget about retirees or strategic enterprises. Many of the defense industry enterprises collected debts in both dollar and ruble at very high interest rates and many even now cannot be re-credited due to the pre-bankrupt state of debts.


    your formula does not have enough time - you need to divide by the number of years during which these debts were collected.

    And these 16 300 too. divide by 10 years (conditional) and there payment is received at 1,63 tr per year and if you calculate how much per month ..

    it’s from the category to remove deputies and divide their salary. Amount seems prohibitive - until you divide by 40 million
  • Serg65 6 March 2020 10: 35 New
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    And why not retirees and low-income debts for a communal apartment?

    Ukraine, Nazarii, will write everything off to you!
  • Dmitry V. 6 March 2020 11: 00 New
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    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    What time? !! And why not retirees and low-income debts for a communal apartment? Give people the opportunity to rest, rather than endless running in a wheel?


    As in the joke:
    Question to Putin: - how can I live on a pension of 10000 rubles?
    The answer is yes, and he did not hold such money in his hands.
  • Ingvar 72 6 March 2020 11: 01 New
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    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    And why not retirees and low-income debts for a communal apartment?

    In our kingdom-state, all assistance is only to banks and the extractive sector. Even the notorious Family Car program, which was promoted as helping large families and stimulating the automobile industry, is really nothing more than compensation for bank interest, because you can use this program ONLY if you buy a car on credit.
    Well, the constant reorganization of the banks has already eaten billions, while the top managers of these banks both received bonuses for "successful activities, and they get them.
  • Cycle boss 6 March 2020 12: 24 New
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    They will be relieved of debts, and perhaps this enterprise will not have to carry out optimizations .. and optimization for the common people has never promised anything good .. but this is not accurate. Maybe there are pluses to this .. wait and see.
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      Quote: Cycle Boss
      Relieve debt, and perhaps this company will not have to carry out optimization ..

      Debt relief and staff reduction are two unrelated things in modern Russia.
  • Ros 56 6 March 2020 13: 18 New
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    Pensioners as a rule do not have debts for a communal apartment, I myself live among such people, so pay a red-skinned one, otherwise the sheriff will come. negative
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    Indeed, why ?.
    And because debt cancellation is a great acquisition in private pockets.
    And writing off to pensioners is, on the contrary, a loss from their pockets ..
  • Runoway 6 March 2020 10: 00 New
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    Well cool! Of course, I completely agree that the state support of the defense industry complex is mandatory, but it smacks of concrete laundering
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      Quote: Runoway
      Well cool! Of course, I completely agree that the state support of the defense industry complex is mandatory, but it smacks of concrete laundering

      Before writing off debts, it does not bother to compare the millions of salaries of "effective managers" who manage the military-industrial complex and the cheap salaries of ordinary hard workers. If the menagers are so "effective", then where are the debts from?
      1. Runoway 6 March 2020 10: 19 New
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        Absolutely agree!!! From such news, I immediately recall that there is not enough money in Almaty and much more, and we trade like fighters for palm oil! Managers on export do not work absolutely
      2. Serg65 6 March 2020 10: 45 New
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        If the menagers are so "effective", then where are the debts from?

        laughing From hard workers! One needs to change the car, then the apartment ... give me money?
    2. Serg65 6 March 2020 10: 44 New
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      Quote: Runoway
      smacks of concrete laundering

      And the nature of the origin of these debts is not comme il faut?
      1. bessmertniy 6 March 2020 11: 40 New
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        They cheated on women, lost cards, ate in restaurants. Enough? Or do you need a complete list of this nature? wassat
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          Quote: bessmertniy
          Or do you need a complete list of this nature?

          To what? You do not already know the origin of these debts!
          Quote: bessmertniy
          They cheated on women, lost cards, ate in restaurants

          what Are these your pipe dreams?
    3. SSR
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      Quote: Runoway
      Well cool! Of course, I completely agree that the state support of the defense industry complex is mandatory, but it smacks of concrete laundering

      I know the “one” enterprise that has actually become the second city-forming enterprise, which is trying to be / become a competitive and import-substitution enterprise, it has gathered engineers and technologists from all over Russia! But plug, you need modern equipment and areas for them. And where can I get money for a workshop of 7500 m2, for modern equipment and starting raw materials to start production? Management efficiency is also unfortunately present but cannot be obtained from an empty modern enterprise. There are many other reasons, but cancellation and restructuring should help. At least the previously executed orders will be paid and not interest will be repaid to the bank. Other smaller ones completed the order, spent materials and money, and are now waiting for the type of "UAC" * to pay the remaining money.
  • Graz 6 March 2020 10: 03 New
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    debt relief should be accompanied by the transfer of enterprises to state ownership, if it is ao, zao and tp
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      Quote: Graz
      debt relief should be accompanied by the transfer of enterprises to state ownership, if it is ao, zao and tp

      I also wanted to write about it. In general, writing off debts is the most economically inefficient step for improving the enterprise. Better and more efficient is loading orders for the products of a given enterprise for an appropriate amount. But since they were about to write off, everything should be civilized, otherwise it smacks of real corruption. Debt write-offs should be accompanied by the transfer of assets, to the appropriate amount, into state ownership, if they are in private hands. If they are already owned by the state, then a full audit of the activities of the enterprise with the relevant organizational findings, the adoption of anti-crisis measures, etc. should be carried out.
    2. Ros 56 6 March 2020 13: 20 New
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      And I will support this idea. good
  • Shadow041 6 March 2020 10: 11 New
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    It’s time to nationalize defense enterprises ...
    1. Ingvar 72 6 March 2020 11: 04 New
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      And managers pay bonuses according to the results of the enterprise.
      1. Ros 56 6 March 2020 13: 23 New
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        It is interesting that for the animal you rolled out a minus for such an offer. good
        1. Ingvar 72 6 March 2020 16: 56 New
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          See the manager. laughing
  • aszzz888 6 March 2020 10: 13 New
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    and defense industry enterprises are not able to pay loans to financial institutions, often sending all profits to pay off interest, thereby increasing profitsat,
    Bankers are fattening as before. They at least a global flood, still heated up by profit. And the news in itself is good, people at enterprises will be guaranteed to produce salaries.
    1. askort154 6 March 2020 10: 37 New
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      aszzz888 ....Bankers are fattening as before.

      There is one! Sberbank's net profit, which Gref reports to the president every year:
      2017 - 674 billion rubles.
      2018 - 831 billion rubles.
      2019 - 870 billion rubles.
      At the same time, his face always shines, and I want to shout - give him a lemon in his mouth. yes hi
      1. aszzz888 6 March 2020 10: 42 New
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        askort154 (Alexander) Today, 10:37 ... Moreover, his face always shines, and you want to shout - give him a lemon in his mouth.
        Thank you for the brief statistics. And although I know her - no words, only emotions.
        2019 - 870 billion rubles.
        I wonder how much train. wagons if denominations of 1000 rubles? wink
        1. Ingvar 72 6 March 2020 11: 07 New
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          Quote: aszzz888
          I wonder how much train. wagons if denominations of 1000 rubles?

          Yes, no matter how many were, all these funds are spent extremely inefficiently, and have almost no effect on the development of the economy. request
        2. Piramidon 6 March 2020 11: 37 New
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          I wonder how much train. wagons if denominations of 1000 rubles?

          Left behind from life. Money has long been measured not in suitcases and wagons, but in gigabytes. A few keystrokes and debts written off (or accrued)
      2. Ros 56 6 March 2020 13: 28 New
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        And along the face of the face. salaries for girls' operators are ridiculous, interest on deposits is scanty. A heel hits my chest, I'm an effective manager. And whoever receives it decently does not see the light of white. Capitalism however.
  • Strashila 6 March 2020 10: 17 New
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    Information on the 20 billion savings of the Pension Fund seems a joke against this background.
    That's where you need to properly clean up.
  • signifera 6 March 2020 10: 17 New
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    That's right. This is not the production of refrigerators or canned goods. Only the state can buy their products for themselves or for export. How should they live, survive and develop, if the state does not load them. All their debts are the fault of the state. Or let them sell tanks and other things to the public. If there are no roads, so the demand will be good)))). In general, all these enterprises should be 100% owned by the state, again, they do not produce toasters.
    1. Piramidon 6 March 2020 11: 43 New
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      Quote: Signifer
      Or let them sell tanks and other things to the public. If there are no roads, so the demand will be good))))

      No need to be so dramatic. There are roads. And if everyone will ride on them in tanks, then then they definitely will not be.
      1. signifera 6 March 2020 12: 51 New
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        Well, I agree, there are roads. But not everyone still has asphalt, where there is rubble, and where just the ground - until the first rain. And where are asphalt roads, like, so there the coating is destroyed so that you can shoot reports about Syria or Donbass. On the repaired after a month already track or new holes. But
        since last year, we decided not to repair the drogues with us, so to cover up the little things or fill up the holes with rubble. We do not take Moscow into account, there are roads, I saw it. I even envy.
        1. Piramidon 6 March 2020 14: 48 New
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          Quote: Signifer
          We do not take Moscow into account, there are roads, I saw it. I even envy.

          I don’t know your address and in what remote village you live, but I live far from the Moscow Ring Road, in the Vologda Oblast. In all of its regional and district centers I can easily get on a completely normal freeway. Most likely, you do not live in the countryside, and do not even leave the door of your house’s entrance, but draw information about the state of Russian roads from the messages of liberal trolls who roam around the outskirts with cameras and collect photos of all rubbish bins, abandoned houses intended for demolition , and roads in broken alleys, and even with its own Photoshop editing.
          1. signifera 6 March 2020 15: 54 New
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            )))) is funny. Novosibirsk I have two cars and it's time for the second time I have a WU on time. You can get there - you can’t argue here. But it is necessary to maneuver constantly so that pits go around and wells that are either higher or lower than the canvas level, or everything is knocked out around them. And there is a street where you can’t go round at all, you roll from pit to pit. Sorry for the car. In winter, not everyone and often do not clean the streets, which additionally creates obstacles. You haven’t been in the region, I won’t say anything about the roads. Often I go to the Kemerovo region, the track is constantly being repaired, but it is still in waves, with holes, with a track. Signs, warnings about bumps and speed limits are poked everywhere, although I don’t want to fly there. Not to mention that it is two-way, the traffic is always such that tails gather behind trucks and low-speed vehicles. There are very few overtaking sites. And you must always go in suspense, because you have to peek out the next hole. Permanent accidents, people crash, a lot of deaths. Even in good clear weather, 450 km, you can travel 7 hours or more and come exhausted, although I am not driving in a car, since there is no way to go around any timber truck going 50 km / h and everyone is crawling behind it, but crawling in both directions. Four stripes - no? Why, let the people endure further. I don’t know what kind of photoshop and other things are in question, I say that I see it myself. was abroad, saw and NORMAL roads, traveled along them. Whoever does not have such an opportunity can see them in films, series, news, magazines. Or say everywhere there is Photoshop and the completion of graphics? The films are now dark, any country can be seen. And maybe we evaluate the quality differently? For me, the road is flat asphalt, marking. The car goes without hesitation, vibration, swaying, shocks, etc. If there are holes, roughnesses, cracks in the asphalt, the wells are not level, the waves and track are a bad road. In principle, these are GOSTs and are described. And also storms. During and after the rain, water must flow out of the road, but no, everywhere there are puddles and flooding, even in light rains. I slow down so as not to douse other cars and pedestrians, but there are bad people who fly specially. Something like that.
            1. Piramidon 6 March 2020 16: 39 New
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              )))) is funny. Novosibirsk

              I don’t know how you are in Novosibirsk. It has not been east of the Kurgan since ancient Soviet times. Yes, here in Vologda the authorities do not reach the outskirts either. But in the last 7-8 years, the main city streets are maintained in good condition. It even dawned on the yards, which I am generally not very happy about. If before, before our yard was asphalted, I didn’t worry about my grandchildren riding scooter bikes there, now I’m looking at how some wisps, delighted on smooth roads, drive around the yard at a speed of 60-70 km / h and they don’t look at the fact that everywhere because of a number of parked cars that do not provide a view, a person can get out, I myself am ready to dig holes again across the road.
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                We have speed bumps stacked. To not drive. It helps a little. A few pieces along the house do not give much acceleration. But they are not expensive, I studied the issue, I want to add with us, 10-15 thousand without installation, not the cheapest and not the most expensive of rubber. Two years ago, too, the central streets were constantly repaired here, not very smoothly, but they were watched. Sometimes they went to secondary ones. And last year they didn’t start in the spring, so they left this year. They are doing something, but a drop in the ocean. The mayor of the Communist Party brings everything to the EP, such as interfering, I don’t know who is there, it seems that they really share the money.
            2. antivirus 8 March 2020 10: 24 New
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              Even in good clear weather 450km you can go 7 hours or more and come exhausted, although I am not traveling by car, as there is no way to go around

              not a topic - quote from you - 20 years ago IT WAS TO BORN CHILDREN (OR CREATE CONDITIONS) FOR POPULATION OF TERRITORIES. Now there would be car owners, payers of taxes for the repair of building roads. in 2020, the density and quality of roads in 2040-50gg is determined. already started to pay for the first.
              in 2030 - for the obligation to give birth "in 5 years" will they give 200-300tr?
              there is a speed of capital turnover and etc. bullshit - ask Andr from Chelyaba - you can not spend more than a standard per 1 sq. m. proportion of costs must be observed. everything is on the road - and teachers? Doctors? these "state employees" themselves spend little money, more concrete and rags to wipe the classroom boards --- build, maintenance, repairs, inflate balls at the entrance to the holidays, and the number of expensive tests, film projects, shoe covers, bulbs not for 10 r --by 120 r
              schoolchildren used to cut trees around the school - how now?
              there are also embankments, mountains, parks,
              20 years ago (and earlier) they took children on sleds in winter, they can’t drive in the carriage in the snow, for 5-10 years already the cry “doesn’t clean the mountains admin” has seen enough movies about California? life does not unambiguously develop, but we do not stand still.
  • Guards turn 6 March 2020 10: 18 New
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    The Ministry of Defense lodged claims on 410 million rubles to the manufacturer Tornado, Smercha and Grada The Russian Ministry of Defense demands to recover more than 410 million rubles from PJSC Motovilikhinsky Plants. It is reported by REGNUM. The lawsuit has not yet been accepted for production.

    On February 12, 2020, the application was filed with the Moscow Arbitration. The defendant is a holding company that works on the MLRS Tornado-G, Grad, Smerch and Tornado-S.

    These MLRS, we recall, were developed by specialists of the Tula FSUE GNPP "Alloy".

    Primorsky enterprise, 39,99% owned by Rostec State Corporation. In total, PJSC is the contractor for more than 60 contracts with the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.

    Earlier, a similar lawsuit was filed against Kalashnikov Concern JSC (Udmurtia).
  • faterdom 6 March 2020 10: 22 New
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    I don’t understand at all, why are there banks?
    Well, they would, at their own peril and risk, finance advanced developments with their resources that the army and navy would like to acquire ... But when did the state armament programs use budget money through banks ??? At interest? This is wrecking, in its pure uncluttered form - all that the bank strips away will not be received by the army.
    And what, the care of the state and society is still banks? Or the army?
    1. carstorm 11 6 March 2020 10: 24 New
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      these debts did not appear yesterday. Now the system has changed, but most debts have a very long history.
      1. Serg65 6 March 2020 10: 48 New
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        Quote: carstorm 11
        these debts did not appear yesterday. Now the system has changed, but most debts have a very long history.

        laughing Is this interesting to anyone? With this you will not get on an armored car!
      2. Lannan Shi 6 March 2020 10: 59 New
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        Quote: carstorm 11
        these debts did not appear yesterday. now the system has changed

        The old, Yeltsin system lasted a little over 8 years. New, Putin, already over 20 has exceeded. Maybe enough already to refer to the dark past? The creator of these debts actually now sits on the throne. Maybe from the money for its maintenance, these debts should be covered? At 5 years old, it is quite possible to meet the deadlines.
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          Quote: Lannan Shi
          The old, Yeltsin system lasted a little over 8 years. New, Putin, already over 20 has exceeded. Maybe enough already to refer to the dark past?

          A simple analogy: it takes a couple of seconds to break a leg. To cure it, you need orders of magnitude more time. Yeltsin broke firewood, Putin is fixing it. Repairing is harder and longer.

          Quote: Lannan Shi
          Maybe from the money for its maintenance, these debts should be covered? At 5 years, it is quite possible to meet

          Let's count it again? Last time you did it badly ...
        2. Serg65 6 March 2020 12: 42 New
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          Quote: Lannan Shi
          The creator of these debts actually now sits on the throne

          Creator? There are two creators, one 13 years old, as he had already rested in a Bose, a friend is still alive!
          Quote: Lannan Shi
          At 5 years old, it is quite possible to meet the deadlines.

          laughing Madame Shea, you and your accomplices cannot rehabilitate themselves before the peoples of the former USSR for 30 years already, but for that you want to raise the country's economy in 5 years!
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          what does Yeltsin have to do with it? read the questions themselves and understand when the changes began and why.
    2. paul3390 6 March 2020 10: 34 New
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      It’s time to create a state bank, to say the Treasury, and let all state money go through it only. There is nothing for the bankers to fatten on the official dough.
      1. kjhg 6 March 2020 12: 29 New
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        Well, you're an adult! I do not believe that you do not understand why the system is built in this way, and not otherwise, as if it were more reasonable, as you suggest. In the existing parasitic system, everything is complicated not because they don’t know how to do it differently, but on the contrary, everything is done so that when you overcome each step of this staircase you can nibble off a piece of cake. But the tweaking ones are not some random people, but who the people need. That is why the country cannot develop normally. For every really working person, there are several dozen parasites, the number of which is only growing.
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      Quote: faterdom
      But when are state arms programs budget money through banks ??? At interest?

      This is kudrinomika. All money is only through banks and loans.
  • Dmitry Makarov 6 March 2020 10: 35 New
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    On behalf of the Russian People, I fully support the cancellation of debts of the Russian defense industry.
    It was still not enough that our defense enterprises owed someone. Their duty is to create Weapons as much as possible and better!
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      On behalf of the Russian People, I fully support the cancellation of debts of the Russian defense industry.

      Who are you to speak on behalf of a whole nation?
      1. Dmitry Makarov 6 March 2020 12: 32 New
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        And you don’t poke me, I did not pass pigs with you.
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          Sorry, monsieur, do not deign to disclose your rank, position and social position, allowing you to declare on behalf of a whole people?
  • Ross xnumx 6 March 2020 10: 41 New
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    750 billion rubles of debts written off to Russian defense industry enterprises

    The cynicism of power goes wild. Do you know why? That is why:
    ... 90% of the debts of enterprises of the Russian defense industry are accounted for: the United Aircraft Corporation (UAC), the United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC), Uralvagonozavod (UVZ), High-precision complexes and Almaz-Antey. The loan portfolio of the defense industry is about 2 trillion. rubles and defense industry enterprises unable to repay loans to financial institutions, often sending all profits to pay off interest, thereby increasing the profits of banks, instead of investing in production and paying salaries.

    Do you understand the trick? The state will give all the money to the banks, which, with their and the Central Bank of Russia “credit policy”, have turned the entire population of the country into debtors, and the remaining afloat sectors will “bankrupt” in the most unscrupulous manner. And we are witnesses of how during the crisis the state gave billions of our money to us (“withdrawn from us in the form of unpaid salaries and pensions, taxes and levies) for the“ capitalization of banks ”:
    Russian President Vladimir Putin signed Federal Law of December 26, 2014 No. 448-FZ "On Amending Article 23 of the Federal Law" On the Federal Budget for 2014 and for the Planning Period of 2015 and 2016. "
    With a document, the Government of the Russian Federation is vested with the right to make a property contribution of the Russian Federation to the property of the State Corporation "Deposit Insurance Agency" in the amount of up to 1 trillion rubles in order to increase the capitalization of Russian banks. Such a contribution is planned to be made by transferring federal loan bonds.
    Recall that the Government of the Russian Federation proposed directing funds from the federal budget to additional capitalization of banks. The Bank of Russia also supported the recapitalization of banks, whose too small capital prevents them from issuing a sufficient number of loans.

    Got it? It is necessary to give money to banks, because they can no longer give loans ... wassat
    Here, not only the mind cannot be understood, but criminal penalties cannot be measured ...
  • Dmitry V. 6 March 2020 10: 48 New
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    Is it so easy to write off 375 billion rubles of inefficient expenses?

    Can write off "ineffective managers" for such statements and start with the deputy prime minister !?
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      start with vice premier!

      Only with the deputy prime minister or with his employer?
  • Vitaly gusin 6 March 2020 10: 49 New
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    And the nature of the origin of these debts is not comme il faut?

    If you believe it
    The total debt of domestic defense enterprises is about 2,3 trillion rubles. Debts began to accumulate back in the 2000s, when the annual interest on loans reached 23 percent. State aid was provided to enterprises, but it did not cover all costs.
  • Victor March 47 6 March 2020 10: 51 New
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    What time? !! And why not retirees and low-income debts for a communal apartment? Give people the opportunity to rest, rather than endless running in a wheel ?!

    Just because there are catastrophically more necessary things compared to prosperous ones (????) (inflation in minutes will gobble up any supplements to pensions, forgot, scoundrel, as we were all millionaires, but were poor anyway?) . Any additions to salaries and pensions in our economy are not effective. Inflation is held back not by COMPETITION AND COOPERATELY RISING TAX SCALE, but by the lack of money among the population. You will be the first to yell that you were again robbed if you denationalized the economy, giving industry to private hands.
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      Quote: Victor March 47
      Any additions to salaries and pensions in our economy are not effective.

      Output?
  • Victor March 47 6 March 2020 10: 54 New
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    Quote: ROSS 42
    750 billion rubles of debts written off to Russian defense industry enterprises

    The cynicism of power goes wild. Do you know why? That is why:
    ... 90% of the debts of enterprises of the Russian defense industry are accounted for: the United Aircraft Corporation (UAC), the United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC), Uralvagonozavod (UVZ), High-precision complexes and Almaz-Antey. The loan portfolio of the defense industry is about 2 trillion. rubles and defense industry enterprises unable to repay loans to financial institutions, often sending all profits to pay off interest, thereby increasing the profits of banks, instead of investing in production and paying salaries.

    Do you understand the trick? The state will give all the money to the banks, which, with their and the Central Bank of Russia “credit policy”, have turned the entire population of the country into debtors, and the remaining afloat sectors will “bankrupt” in the most unscrupulous manner. And we are witnesses of how during the crisis the state gave billions of our money to us (“withdrawn from us in the form of unpaid salaries and pensions, taxes and levies) for the“ capitalization of banks ”:
    Russian President Vladimir Putin signed Federal Law of December 26, 2014 No. 448-FZ "On Amending Article 23 of the Federal Law" On the Federal Budget for 2014 and for the Planning Period of 2015 and 2016. "
    With a document, the Government of the Russian Federation is vested with the right to make a property contribution of the Russian Federation to the property of the State Corporation "Deposit Insurance Agency" in the amount of up to 1 trillion rubles in order to increase the capitalization of Russian banks. Such a contribution is planned to be made by transferring federal loan bonds.
    Recall that the Government of the Russian Federation proposed directing funds from the federal budget to additional capitalization of banks. The Bank of Russia also supported the recapitalization of banks, whose too small capital prevents them from issuing a sufficient number of loans.

    Got it? It is necessary to give money to banks, because they can no longer give loans ... wassat
    Here, not only the mind cannot be understood, but criminal penalties cannot be measured ...

    Unicellular amoebas, of course, are not able to distinguish CHARGE from PAYMENT for the debtor. Hence the stink.
  • Burdock 6 March 2020 11: 02 New
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    The good news is to attract those figures who caused such debts. On this wave, Armat could have been assembled at least a little.
  • Vyacheslav p 6 March 2020 11: 13 New
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    It is high time. We write off to the Africans, but to our own defense industry.
  • Victor March 47 6 March 2020 12: 09 New
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    Quote: Ingvar 72
    Quote: Victor March 47
    Any additions to salaries and pensions in our economy are not effective.

    Output?

    The way out to which the government and the whole society will decide is known, but not possible now. FULL privatization of the means of production. Full privatization of production. The transfer to the government of ONLY management functions, removing from it the functions of a participant in business. Control, budget management, but, in the framework of private production, competition. Example - an official has only the right and obligation to manage the rail track, while maintaining and maintaining its high-quality operation. Through the conclusion of repair contracts and so on.
    All other property in Russian Railways is private. Train brigades, stations, depots, carriage facilities. The state has rails. EVERYTHING All private operators. The state may block the passage of ANY company for violating laws, security, quality of service, INCREASE PROFIT over and above the reasonable, and approved by the state, norms. Blocked, sit at home. pay taxes, pay salaries to employees, but income will be zero. It is not possible to sell such a company with encumbrance. No one will pay other people's debts. And in such conditions TRY !!!. But bureaucrats can neither sell rails, nor lease, nor corporatize.


    Question- who will pay him a bribe? Yes. who needs it?
    Bottom line - BY CINEMA PROPERTY, THE STATE is steering tax with trilliard assets.
    Also with oil, also with gas .....
  • Victor March 47 6 March 2020 12: 23 New
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    Quote: Burdock
    The good news is to attract those figures who caused such debts. On this wave, Armat could have been assembled at least a little.

    The government is subsidized, subsidizing semi-standing production facilities that are unable to work in connection with the destruction of all economic relations, for example, for the Maidan in Ukraine, in order to save workshops, preserve teams and equipment. What are you chopping, ignoramus?
  • Victor March 47 6 March 2020 12: 30 New
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    It remains only to understand and forgive ...

    By the way, after the cancellation of debts, the entire leadership of the military-industrial complex will write itself bonuses as effective managers ...

    This is for the President. Since the military-industrial complex is in the hands of the state. Call and demand ....
  • Victor March 47 6 March 2020 12: 35 New
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    Is it so easy to write off 375 billion rubles of inefficient expenses?

    Can write off "ineffective managers" for such statements and start with the deputy prime minister !?

    We can even hang not only them, but also their family, up to 7 knees. Will this help?
    Ask from comrade V.I. Lenin for such a device of the RSFSR, and with comrade I.V. Stalin for dividing a single country into republics, and even with the right to leave the USSR. This is precisely what caused the collapse. BORDERS. There were none. Only Poland and Finland, then having a national education and borders, fell off.
    Look at the world today. No state with such a device is durable. Ireland is about to fall off, Scotland, Wallonia. Kurdistan......
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      Look at the world today. No state with such a device is durable.

      Does the US example say anything? Under their constitution, each state has the right to secession from the United States. What state was released?
  • Arg107 6 March 2020 12: 51 New
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    The question of backfill, where to make a poor financier?
    1. BREAKTHROUGH READY 6 March 2020 15: 58 New
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      The key rate is more likely an indicator of the health of the economy. It depends on REAL inflation and pledged risks.
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      We have a mortgage of 4 percent
  • Obi-Wan Kenobi 6 March 2020 12: 56 New
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    Where did such debts come from?
    Unclear.
    The guarantor raised the country from its knees, reequipped the army, and the factories were loaded with work for the most 2040th year. Tanks T-72, T-70, Armata, etc. already "knock on the door." Su-57, Ka-52, Mi-28 went into the series, the troops and abroad.
    Ships and submarines with Caliber have scared the whole world.
    All plants have been operating in 3 shifts for many years. Everyone is happy and satisfied. Attention Question:
    Where did such debts come from?
    Apparently who works that and milk, so it turns out?
    And of course, our sun-assured guarantor just found out about it!
    1. BREAKTHROUGH READY 6 March 2020 15: 56 New
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      Where did such debts come from?
      Officials shift from one pocket to another, they master the state budget, and taxpayers are robbed. In the 90s they thinned suckers in the "thimbles", and now in large armchairs they condemn "I want to twist, spin, twist."
      The guarantor raised the country from its knees, reequipped the army, and the factories were loaded with work for the most 2040th year.
      You see, we did a good job, now you need to grab yourself in your pocket with the permission of the sovereign. After all, each "ruler" in his place is not just like that, he is godfather, brother, matchmaker or friend in the judo section.
    2. Andrei from Chelyabinsk 6 March 2020 17: 32 New
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      Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
      Attention question:
      Where did such debts come from?

      Once again :)))) From the period 1991-2009 when the military-industrial complex practically had no orders
      1. antivirus 8 March 2020 10: 38 New
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        practically had no orders

        had orders, including to warehouses. just support the manufacturer. and then the state defense order did not solve all the problems of the defense industry
        1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk 8 March 2020 14: 32 New
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          Quote: antivirus
          had orders, including to warehouses.

          I can only repeat - do not write nonsense, please. In the 90s, what was ordered under the USSR was still being completed, but there inflation was furious, and they did not pay on time, so the enterprises were in huge losses, and from the second half of the 90s orders went down. What was given to the military-industrial complex in those years was a miser, and even that was stolen before reaching enterprises
          1. antivirus 8 March 2020 18: 03 New
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            I agree................................................. .................. briefly prohibited
  • sanik2020 6 March 2020 13: 09 New
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    So they constantly said that the Russian defense industry was overwhelmed with orders and almost stunned by profits, but now it turned out that it would be impossible to survive without writing off debts.
    1. BREAKTHROUGH READY 6 March 2020 15: 50 New
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      So they constantly said
      and you and ears hung up?
    2. Andrei from Chelyabinsk 6 March 2020 17: 31 New
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      Quote: sanik2020
      So they constantly said that the Russian defense industry was overwhelmed with orders and almost stunned by profit

      Since 2010, approximately. And before that was the period 1991-2009
  • iouris 6 March 2020 13: 21 New
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    Do not envy the defense industry. The defense industry budget is approximately $ 750 billion.
  • Yeraz 6 March 2020 16: 07 New
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    so where are the debts from if there is a sale of weapons.
  • Victor March 47 6 March 2020 20: 13 New
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    Quote: Alf
    Quote: Victor March 47
    Look at the world today. No state with such a device is durable.

    Does the US example say anything? Under their constitution, each state has the right to secession from the United States. What state was released?

    What are the names of all states that have in their name the nationality of this state in history.

    I would have looked at the free will of the people of the state. And, especially not when everything is good, but when everything is bad.

    Mordvinians have no division into moksha, erzyu. And, therefore, they consider themselves a single people. But, if someone would have thought of quarreling, then the Republic of Mordovia would have been composed of the Erzya region and the Moksha region. Moksha is more numerous. And such a division would work much faster than otherwise. A year later, they would have fought because of a lake, a meadow,
    Have you long read Sholokhov's "Virgin Soil Upturned"? What did Razmetnov Davydov say about spring fights between Cossacks? "The boundaries are to blame, the boundaries, because of them, damned ...."
    Here the boundaries between the republics exploded. Especially, relocation and cutting from one to another helped a lot to get into a quarrel. Crimea recall?
    1. Alf
      Alf 6 March 2020 22: 06 New
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      The split in the USA.


  • Victor March 47 6 March 2020 20: 21 New
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    The question of backfill, where to make a poor financier?

    What did you bring here? Bank rates? And can it be less than or equal to the level of inflation? Learn to control inflation, then tweet. It can be made zero. Easily. Do not pay money from the word at all. To nobody. Price increases will stop. There will even be a decline. For a buyer who has at least a penny, they will begin to hunt. Low prices. But the budget will die, bater and that’s it. Dash-on-dash will change in the streets.

    Our profit is not limited by anything. Network structures will not move their ears for 500% of profits. And Bill Gates gave 9 billion to charity so that they would not pay taxes. So cheaper. They have 5% per year, the limit that does not ruin production.
    The Swede pays 75% of taxes from big business. hard worker at the machine-25%. Such, here is Swedish socialism.
  • cat Rusich 6 March 2020 21: 05 New
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    The defense industry enterprises could “lend” the State, and then write off debts ... for example, like Cuba. But from Ukraine "three rubles Yanukovych sad "to recover, you can even land (New Russia).
  • Victor March 47 6 March 2020 23: 54 New
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    The split in the USA.

    300 thousand. This, of course, is power. The real indignation will begin when there is nothing to eat in the stores.
    But we will wait a long time. If only because they can print green as much as they want. Others will have to pay for this issue.
    Such a trick, someone asks for a loan. Trillion, for example. They will, be calm. Turn on the machine and print. At 1% per annum, as much as you want. Give how much to them? 1% of the trillion- 10 billion. And the body of duty. Give. Papers can be burned, they are dummies, not provided ANYTHING. But, these percentages are provided by the labor of those who used the loan. This is real money. So those 10 billion are taken from the air. Hold it in your hands. During the abolition of the Bretton Woods system, since 1978, thousands of such somersaults have done. What makes the penguin economy swell? From the mind? No, from deception.