Why "Stalin shot Suvorov": Nikita Mikhalkov on modern education


The subject of education is often raised in programs, including on federal channels. The next issue of Besogon decided to devote this topic to Nikita Mikhalkov. To begin with, he cited excerpts from past shows where journalists interviewed young people and ordinary passers-by on the streets. It turned out that such a dialogue is possible:


Journalist with a certain share of irony and provocativeness:
The victory over fascism in the Great Patriotic War was won by the USSR under the leadership of Stalin. And then Stalin issued an order to execute the commander Alexander Suvorov. What do you think about it?

Young man on the street:

I think that Stalin did this ... without thinking. I would have awarded Suvorov in his place.

The following is the material of the associate professor of the journalism department of Moscow State University, where the data on the so-called installation dictation are announced. It is reported that if 3-4 freshmen usually do not cope with the dictation, then this year 82% of those who wrote, including those who scored 100 points in the USE in the Russian language, made 8 or more errors on the text page.

The associate professor calls this year's freshmen “aliens”.

The article suggests discussing what has become the unified state exam for our country, in what educational system Russia generally lives today. And why, in the end, it so happens that "Stalin shot Suvorov":
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  1. The leader of the Redskins 6 March 2020 14: 51 New
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    You can talk and discuss a lot and for a long time ... But things are still there ...
    1. Blacksmith 55 6 March 2020 15: 08 New
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      In my opinion, uneducated people are becoming more and more in the world.
      More recently, I had to communicate with a group of young people, none of them knew the beginning of P and WWII.
      No one knew how the internal combustion engine works, the answers were like: well .... gasoline burns .... and the car goes. But in one they surpassed me, as expected, on the computer I was weaker. And why be surprised, grew up without him, played football and skied.
      1. tech3030 6 March 2020 15: 14 New
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        And probably the answers are: the wind is blowing because the trees are swinging.
        1. Ros 56 6 March 2020 20: 34 New
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          I thought so in the kindergarten 60 years ago. hi
          1. malyvalv 7 March 2020 02: 05 New
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            And I thought correctly. The more trees, the more rainfall brought by cyclones from the sea.
      2. Cut Samshitov 6 March 2020 15: 58 New
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        He served in specific troops. Up to 90% of conscripts had higher education. For interest, they conducted a poll with the political officer “the date of the beginning of World War 2”. A third did not answer, the rest proudly declared - June 22, 1941. It was the beginning of the 2000s.
        1. Ros 56 6 March 2020 20: 42 New
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          Conscripts with higher education, but this cannot be. They just bought diplomas in the gateway and drove you in the ears.
          But I’m not surprised if freshmen and high school students in Moscow don’t know who Lenin is, then ...... I saw a direct poll from the mailbox, I immediately remembered the iPhone and thanked him very loudly for EG in very strong terms.
          1. mister-red 22 March 2020 21: 24 New
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            In Soviet times, if the department was not there, then welcome to the urgent, even with higher education. If it was, then 1 year lieutenant. But these castings ... it would be better if they were taken by soldiers, they were mostly stupid.
            1. Ros 56 23 March 2020 09: 05 New
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              Are you confusing anything? They served as a soldier for a year, and two as a lieutenant. My son, my godfather, served like that for exactly a year as an ordinary.
              1. mister-red 29 March 2020 18: 07 New
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                Changes in the service for students appeared in the 80th and somewhere in the 81-82th they began to call until the end of the university. And after the university, the service life was 1,5-2 years. It concerned those born in the 1964-1970s, these are the children of those who were born in the war or a little earlier. For obvious reasons, there was a deep demographic pit. Prior to this, with a higher education without a department, they really served 1 year. I served 82-84 and we already had a tower and for a year no one seemed to be serving. Although it is possible because of the specifics - he served in the MP.
                The lieutenants after the department for the service saw those who came later than me and left earlier.
                But it was all so or not I can’t say.
                1. Ros 56 29 March 2020 18: 54 New
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                  It was much earlier, he served in the seventies.
                  1. mister-red 31 March 2020 19: 46 New
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                    I got what you mean.
        2. fider 9 March 2020 09: 40 New
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          Cut Samshitov
          "Up to 90% of conscripts had higher education."
          What is the use of your education? You have to judge by the number of startups sold and their cost.
      3. Shelest2000 6 March 2020 16: 59 New
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        In my opinion, uneducated people are becoming more and more in the world.

        The amount of reason on earth is a constant value. But the population is growing ... (c)
        1. Ros 56 6 March 2020 20: 46 New
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          Strongly said. good hi The automatic editor also shows problems with the brain, until this crap was written, missed, little text.
      4. Barmaleyka 6 March 2020 22: 26 New
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        Quote: smith 55
        In my opinion, uneducated people are becoming more and more in the world.

        the problem is that there are fewer literate professionals too ingod so you hear what you grab your head, the "specialist" in computer graphics does not know what printer resolution is
    2. Borik 6 March 2020 15: 16 New
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      We have no more education in our country. Destroyed. We who grew up in the USSR were taught an order of magnitude better. So I won’t ask my granddaughter (This is when she was at school) she has one answer that we didn’t go through, we didn’t tell us about it. Okay, now she’s 19 and even though she’s studying at a financial academy and has picked up something else on the Internet, she knows much less than I do. We must now re-educate teachers and only then children.
      1. AU Ivanov. 6 March 2020 15: 22 New
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        There is an education. Both secondary and higher. Otherwise, brains would not flow out of the country. And schoolchildren and students would not occupy first places at international olympiads.
        1. Barmaleyka 6 March 2020 16: 19 New
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          Quote: AU Ivanov.
          first places at international olympiads.

          there is a difference between physical education and high sports achievement so here Olympiads in subjects and general education are on different planes
        2. Chaldon48 6 March 2020 18: 45 New
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          Those brains are flowing that really wanted to learn and, contrary to all the difference in modern education, taught themselves. I myself know, I liked the subject of chemistry, and over the years of my studies I gathered at home a whole library and read books not only on the institute's program, and therefore I still remember a lot, but I'm 71 years old.
      2. demo 6 March 2020 15: 27 New
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        So I won’t ask my granddaughter (This is when she was at school) she has one answer that we didn’t go through, we didn’t tell us about it.
        Errors made in this sentence. Missing punctuation marks.
        Uppercase letters are not used correctly.
        This is to say that we were better taught in the USSR. hi
        Although, I also do not shine !!!
        1. WILL 6 March 2020 15: 35 New
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          Here it is necessary to divide the problem into two components:
          1. A modern educational base (school) ... there is certainly something to work on, training programs - We need to review, change the distribution of school hours between subjects, work on Normal textbooks.
          2. Desire and Opportunities - Learn ... unfortunately, those who have Desire - do not always have opportunities. Well, if both Desire and Opportunity coincide - you can get a completely high-quality education.
          1. Krasnodar 6 March 2020 16: 05 New
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            Welcome hi
            In Soviet times, to get normal knowledge, you just need to carefully listen to the teacher. And to consolidate knowledge at home. Now a tutor is needed - without it in any way. And then you get a schooling that is not up to the Soviet level - with grandmothers, Chad's motivation, etc.
            We must return to the Soviet school system (and I am not a supporter of the USSR). It has proven its effectiveness. And it is normal to provide teachers by raising salaries and, accordingly, requirements for admission to the pedagogical faculty.
            1. Svarog 6 March 2020 16: 12 New
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              I fully support! good Moreover, most of the capitalist countries have adopted the Soviet system .. and judging by my own child, I can confidently say that now the quality of education is an order of magnitude lower than it was in the USSR.
              1. Krasnodar 6 March 2020 17: 09 New
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                Part of the cap. countries adopted the Soviet system of teaching natural sciences. )))
            2. businessv 6 March 2020 16: 32 New
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              Quote: Krasnodar
              It has proven its effectiveness. And it is normal to provide teachers by raising salaries and, accordingly, requirements for admission to the pedagogical department.

              I had wanted to place this for a long time, but there was no reason: "In the USA, the scandalous trial of 76-year-old swindler Invar Johnson ended, which developed and implemented in the 1980s a school knowledge assessment system similar to the Unified State Examination.
              As it turned out, Johnson posed as an expert in education for many years, while he himself with difficulty graduated from high school in Arkansas. He registered the organizations "Association for the Evaluation of the Quality of Education" and the "Pedagogical Academy of Capital City" and issued himself diplomas and certificates on his behalf. Then Johnson began to position himself as an expert - he went to schools with inspections and assigned them ratings, commented on the media and wrote several books. Seeing Johnson's popularity, some recognized experts began to write laudatory reviews of his books in order to stay in trend.
              The system of knowledge assessment described in one of Johnson's works was taken as a basis by the federal Ministry of Education during the reforms. Over the years, it was borrowed by other countries, including Russia in the form of the Unified State Exam (USE).
              The wrong thing in the USA was only suspected in the 2000s, when a number of independent examinations confirmed that the already deplorable education of Americans over the past years has noticeably worsened. During the investigation, it turned out that the author of the system actually graduated from the 8th grade of the school with low scores, and at first he issued all the letters and diplomas to himself.
              “The damage Mr. Johnson inflicted on the US education system is not in the money. This is a real disaster, the consequences of which will affect not only the current generation, but also several future ones, ”said the judge, announcing the verdict.
              Due to the fact that Johnson did not formally violate the law, posing as a specialist, he was convicted of "conducting a massive diversion in the education system of the United States of America", as well as for several light articles. Due to the age of the defendant, as well as since the defense proved that he had no anti-state intentions and had exclusively personal enrichment goals, he was sentenced to 25 years of house arrest with the payment of multi-million fines in installments not exceeding 30% of his monthly income.
              Since 2012, the United States has completely abolished the knowledge assessment system introduced in the 1980s based on Johnson's books. Experts note that the new education system that came to replace it is much like the Soviet system, although this is not declared at the official level. "(C)
              In the US today, only 86% are literate! This refers to those who know literacy (who can read).
              1. Krasnodar 6 March 2020 17: 12 New
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                Nevertheless, the tower there is very high quality. Mathematics and physics are still one of the best in the world in the Russian Federation, but at MIT it is even cooler, for example.
                1. WILL 6 March 2020 18: 05 New
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                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  Nevertheless, the tower there is very high quality. Mathematics and physics are still one of the best in the world in the Russian Federation, but at MIT it is even cooler, for example.

                  Mutually hi about HSE - I agree, very high quality. But I categorically disagree with the rating of educational institutions! By what criteria did only ONE Russian University get into the ranking of the top 100 universities? Question to the compilers of the ranking!
                  I can say one thing, so far - due to the Soviet legacy, the system of primary and secondary education looks very decent compared to other countries .... BUT The situation needs to be drastically improved, to save the education system! Otherwise - Kirdyk.
                  1. Krasnodar 6 March 2020 18: 31 New
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                    There the system is this - if the university does not teach in English - minus so many positions, the number of grants is less than some amount - another minus, etc.
                    in addition, at Moscow State University for 100K tanks you will receive by love, to Harvard - for 5 million tanks, and if someone from the administration comes across - for life)))
                    1. WILL 6 March 2020 18: 39 New
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                      Math - radishes ... still in Arabic taught! laughing
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      There the system is this - if the university does not teach in English - minus so many positions, the number of grants is less than some amount - another minus, etc. )))

                      Quote: Krasnodar

                      in addition, at Moscow State University for 100K tanks you will receive by love, to Harvard - for 5 million tanks, and if someone from the administration comes across - for life)))

                      And here I agree! Education and Bribes - Things Incompatible!
                      1. Krasnodar 6 March 2020 18: 45 New
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                        In fact, the Arabs have different numbers. Own: ١ ٢ ٣ ٤ ٥ ٦ ٧ ٨ ٩
                        We use the Indian, which was distributed by Arab merchants - from there the name)),
                      2. WILL 6 March 2020 18: 47 New
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                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        In fact, the Arabs have different numbers. Own: ١ ٢ ٣ ٤ ٥ ٦ ٧ ٨ ٩),

                        Zero - Where are you going? belay
                      3. Krasnodar 6 March 2020 19: 09 New
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                        They have it - just a point. . Here))
            3. mister-red 22 March 2020 21: 33 New
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              National teams of Russia and the USA at the Mathematics Olympiad

        2. Xnumx vis 6 March 2020 20: 32 New
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          Quote: Krasnodar
          We must return to the Soviet school system (and I am not a supporter of the USSR). It has proven its effectiveness. And it is normal to provide teachers by raising salaries and, accordingly, requirements for admission to the pedagogical faculty.

          I completely agree, it is also necessary to equate teachers and doctors with civil servants. . There should be a guarantee of obtaining official housing, and after fifteen to twenty years of your own .. Of course, the salary. certainly high. So it will be possible to increase the prestige of the profession, which means to raise the quality of education-medicine.
          1. Krasnodar 6 March 2020 20: 40 New
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            That's right. Plus tighten quality control.
      3. Alex Nevs 6 March 2020 18: 58 New
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        Borjomi will no longer help. The goals are different. Socialism? Oh well. Capital above all. So mental impoverishment has long been and will be. What is ideology? ... Such is also being. In the old days, Evening schools remember. Lenin's "Learning to study and study," and now "old grandfather."
        1. aybolyt678 7 March 2020 08: 18 New
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          Quote: Alex Nevs
          Lenin "Learning to study and study"

          And our rector modified this phrase, he said Learn to learn! acquire skills in working with information, learn to systematize and actively apply.
  2. Malyuta 6 March 2020 16: 05 New
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    Quote: Borik
    We have no more education in our country. Destroyed

    And we destroyed it, even Hitler did not achieve similar results as the actions of the authorities for less than 30 years.
    "If a country does not care about old people and children, then this country is doomed to extinction."
    (Franklin D. Roosevelt).

    “A good government is recognized by the way it treats children, the elderly, the sick and the needy” (Horace, 65–8 BC)
    1. Alex Nevs 6 March 2020 19: 00 New
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      It was in vain that Chichotka was weaning, and the Brand immediately hid behind the hill. Abroad “us” “helps”, and “helps” for a long time.
      1. Minipig79 6 March 2020 21: 19 New
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        Oh, how cute. The fight and the hump are to blame, and the receiver, as if not at work! Of course, the gdp wholeheartedly cares for a quality education in the Russian Federation, but the boyars are not given!
        1. Alex Nevs 7 March 2020 08: 38 New
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          You do not see what has been done with the Armed Forces.? And this is a very expensive pleasure and very necessary. . Now all the Yeltsin’s screaming would have been labored in front of the foreigners, like 404 neighbors along with the punishers of their people.
          1. Minipig79 7 March 2020 16: 16 New
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            I see. Just orient, how much did the formation of 90 dollar billionaires contribute to the strengthening of the Armed Forces? Why is it impossible to purchase new equipment without spitting from a high bell tower on this very people, due to which this government lives?
            1. Alex Nevs 7 March 2020 17: 06 New
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              Yes . There is such a thing. I don’t know about 90. But these are their billionaires. If they were foreign, we would have been pushed by our foreheads, because we would have to divide the country further. (country 404 as an example). And this is capitalism. It is necessary to say “thank you” to the Communist Party of the Soviet Union - for they profiled (we dismantled the Warsaw pact). All rich cannot be physically! No way. Such is the dialectic. They tried the CPSU, at the initial stage it turned out (including fear), and then the cunning people realized, stopped working, only divided and consumed. And everything flew into the "abyss". It is just a jungle.
  3. Stas1973 6 March 2020 17: 23 New
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    They taught better because the Teachers were with a capital letter. And who is teaching now? That's the whole story
  4. Alex Nevs 6 March 2020 18: 51 New
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    But the show-off to bash the youth of the might of the WOW !!! And on the slang of the foreign garbage "to work". And in the pool with carbon dioxide - you can’t find the right words.
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    You don’t even need to comment on these education ministers, everything is clear ...
  • paul3390 6 March 2020 15: 12 New
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    Capitalism does not need very smart and educated people, just the opposite - illiterate people make less noise and cost less. Decent education - these are only for the type of elite, technical - for a few service staff. The rest - according to the precepts of the late EU leader 1.0 - count to one hundred, be able to read the signs, sign the statement well - and the language of the owners of course. In the sense of English. And these are the heirs of the country of great scientists, engineers, workers - the USSR! Ugh ..
    1. AU Ivanov. 6 March 2020 15: 25 New
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      However, the damned capitalists with science and education are in full order. Just look at the number of their scientific discoveries and advanced technical developments.
      1. paul3390 6 March 2020 15: 30 New
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        Yeah. Only their surnames are mostly not kosher - Chinese, Russians and even Indians come across. So with science - thanks to a vacuum cleaner, it’s really not bad, but with education .. Who do you think our liberalists have blasted all these moronic innovations in education?
        1. knn54 6 March 2020 15: 57 New
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          According to the Americans themselves, more than 70% of their Nobel laureates have RUSSIAN (including Belarusian, Ukrainian) roots.
          And the incentive for a good education today, alas, is one-shed over the hill.
          It should be noted that they study only for the sake of grades / points. But not gaining knowledge.
          Previously, we read books, studied in sections. Today ALL THIS has replaced the PC.
          Yes, and there’s more than enough garbage on the Internet. And they can’t or don’t want to “filter”.
          1. AU Ivanov. 6 March 2020 16: 06 New
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            It depends on which sections. For example, let's say that we don’t need a section for programming now - all the training is remote, only desire is needed. Books? Now access to them is a relief to disgrace - in the internet there is any literature. And on what media it is recorded - it does not matter. I already forgot when I picked up the "analog book" - everything is on the smartphone.
        2. Krasnodar 6 March 2020 16: 09 New
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          Quote: paul3390
          Yeah. Only their surnames are mostly not kosher - Chinese, Russians and even Indians come across. So with science - thanks to a vacuum cleaner, it’s really not bad, but with education .. Who do you think our liberalists have blasted all these moronic innovations in education?

          Yes, 20 percent of Indians, Arabs, Turks, Chinese and Russians will be typed. The rest - pooh! Anglo-Saxons, not very foolish are those who self-selectively vilely bomb quietly)).
      2. Svarog 6 March 2020 15: 51 New
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        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        However, the cursed capitalists with science and education are in full order

        Far from complete .. very many can not afford to get a higher education .. Imagine, let’s say on the example of Russia, here we are 140 ml .. 10% are those who in the near future will be able to let them learn their child and give high-quality education .. The probability is that of 14 mil. a man will appear a genius, exactly 10 times less, in comparison with the socialist system, where everyone has the possibility of free education .. how many discoveries were made in the USSR, immigrants from workers and peasants ..
        1. AU Ivanov. 6 March 2020 16: 00 New
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          We have a misfortune in another - in universities, the one who is written in the family is written to wave a broom. By mental abilities.
          For example, the United States - a student loan is available to everyone. Another thing is that not everyone at Harvard or Massachusetts technological study will pull. Again by mental abilities. In our MVTU or MAI too, although there are more than enough budget places there.
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            We have a misfortune in another - in universities, the one who is written in the family is written to wave a broom. By mental abilities.

            There is such a thing .. but here you just have to be expelled for poor progress .. And I'm talking about opportunities that are greatly reduced under capitalism ..
            For example, the United States - a student loan is available to everyone.

            Firstly, not for everyone, and secondly, then they work most of their lives on this loan, and if you add a mortgage here, then you’ll be on guard, and if you put it on our Russian reality, where% is unbelievable, then there are opportunities for people tend to zero, and the state, in this situation, loses possible geniuses ..
            1. AU Ivanov. 6 March 2020 16: 15 New
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              Germany, France. The first higher is free. Finland, Sweden, Belgium. The tower is free.
              My daughter received postgraduate education in France (Rene Descartes-Sorbonne University, medicine) Free of charge, she paid only for living and using the library. So much for the sinister grin of capitalism.
              1. Svarog 6 March 2020 16: 27 New
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                Germany, France. The first higher is free. Finland, Sweden, Belgium. The tower is free.

                What do you tell me about for free .. for free there, but there are a lot of conditions .. The child must be ingenious to study there for free, but before that he must spend a lot of money on tutors, and% of free places there, 0,4 or 0,5 , 2024, if I’m not mistaken, of the total mass of students .. By the way, until XNUMX, we will also have .. I mean% of free places.
                And I also have an acquaintance who teaches his daughter at the Sorbonne .. study together with living costs him 30 tons of euros per year ..
                1. AU Ivanov. 6 March 2020 16: 34 New
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                  My was no longer a child - a young specialist, after residency. And the Sorbonne was, roughly speaking, the second residency and continuing education. Is free. Without any tutors. The basic condition is fluency in French. English-language educational programs there are really paid.
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                    Quote: AU Ivanov.
                    My was no longer a child - a young specialist, after residency. And the Sorbonne was, roughly speaking, the second residency and continuing education. Is free. Without any tutors

                    Well, you see, your child is fluent in French and at the same time, I’m sure that she got a quality education in Russia too .. I don’t think that people who pay 20 years in Russia and receive a salary of 20-40 tons can afford it. .
                    1. AU Ivanov. 6 March 2020 17: 05 New
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                      So hard to learn a language? Now, in the age of the Internet? Entire portals for learning and communicating with native speakers. Is free. Just have a desire.
                  2. Krasnodar 6 March 2020 17: 13 New
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                    Quote: AU Ivanov.
                    My was no longer a child - a young specialist, after residency. And the Sorbonne was, roughly speaking, the second residency and continuing education. Is free. Without any tutors. The basic condition is fluency in French. English-language educational programs there are really paid.

                    What specialty did you choose?
                    1. AU Ivanov. 6 March 2020 17: 17 New
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                      The doctor is a clinical pharmacologist.
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                        Quote: AU Ivanov.
                        The doctor is a clinical pharmacologist.

                        Norm
                        I hope to make mine a radiotherapist and a neurosurgeon laughing
                2. Krasnodar 6 March 2020 17: 15 New
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                  Quote: Svarog
                  Germany, France. The first higher is free. Finland, Sweden, Belgium. The tower is free.

                  What do you tell me about for free .. for free there, but there are a lot of conditions .. The child must be ingenious to study there for free, but before that he must spend a lot of money on tutors, and% of free places there, 0,4 or 0,5 , 2024, if I’m not mistaken, of the total mass of students .. By the way, until XNUMX, we will also have .. I mean% of free places.
                  And I also have an acquaintance who teaches his daughter at the Sorbonne .. study together with living costs him 30 tons of euros per year ..

                  In Germany - 400 euros per semester for everyone.
                  1. AU Ivanov. 6 March 2020 17: 24 New
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                    400 per year, this is not a tuition fee, this is a student fee - use of libraries and other goodies.
                    1. Krasnodar 6 March 2020 17: 24 New
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                      Then free
                      Although what's the difference? You mess up any
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      3. 16112014nk 6 March 2020 15: 52 New
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        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        Just look at the number of their scientific discoveries and advanced technical developments.

        Well, we also have enough discoveries and developments. The downside is that the "effective managers" who, as they say - not a single foot in the foot - but want to have their own priority in this, lead inventors and developers. And if they are refused, they act according to the method, as in the play "Dowry" - "So do not get to anyone."
        By hook or by crook, the impudent Saxons drag their candidates for the Nobel Prize, while in our country they search for or invent their own dirt on their own, so as not to put forward a prize. Therefore, they do not count the laureates, and we have enough fingers.
      4. nikvic46 6 March 2020 18: 19 New
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        Andrei. Here you are right. I looked at the Nobel laureates. We had the highest peak in the 60s. The last prize in 1915 for literature.
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          Quote: nikvic46
          I looked through the Nobel laureates
          Looked badly.
          1933 - Bunin
          1958 - Parsnip
          1968 - Sholokhov
          1970 - Cofalsenitsyn
          Quote: nikvic46
          The last award in 1915 for literature.
          France.
          We have the last - Sholokhov.
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        Not true. Bought minds. And they will buy. If they find educated. And they are already on the fingers.
    2. Svarog 6 March 2020 15: 47 New
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      Quote: paul3390
      Capitalism does not need very smart and educated people, just the opposite - illiterate people make less noise and cost less

      And in our case, it’s almost feudalism .. and under the tsar the educated were 14% of the population .. You write everything correctly, that’s how it is .. you need a service who can hang noodles on your ears ..
    3. Minipig79 6 March 2020 21: 21 New
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      Unfortunately, these are not the heirs of that country. And the descendants of the prosravers of That Country.
  • tech3030 6 March 2020 15: 12 New
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    In my opinion, it is time to cast out demons from this "besogon" for a long time!
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      Russian is a very specific language, and it may make sense, guano simply drives ...
  • Amateur 6 March 2020 15: 21 New
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    The nasal gentleman sits and teaches everyone. And who was the first to start filming anti-Soviet and anti-patriotic films? Ugh on him. angry
    1. tech3030 6 March 2020 22: 55 New
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      It’s interesting that I’m talking about it too, and they’re minus me, but they put advantages for you, people that don’t know how to read and delve into the text! I just want to understand.
  • Dart2027 6 March 2020 15: 27 New
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    In my opinion, this is not only about education. Man is not a computer and his brain does not work so accurately.
    When a question is asked in this wording, it may simply not occur to you that we are talking about a man who died long before Stalin was born. Was any Suvorov shot? Well there was. And who can list all the marshals and generals of the USSR in 1945? Only a specialist.
    This is like the case with General Karbyshev, who was joked about in 2013, and the scandal began a few years later, in 2019. It is unlikely that anyone who watched the program knew about the Soviet general and his death, but it never occurred to anyone to associate a humorous show with a real story.
    1. businessv 6 March 2020 16: 21 New
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      Quote: Dart2027
      And who can list all the marshals and generals of the USSR in 1945? Only a specialist.

      Duc to whom it was necessary to list all, colleague, this is not easy for a specialist either, and there is no need. The point is precisely in education, if people do not know our generalissimo, of whom there were only three Russian and one Soviet.
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        Quote: businessv
        if people do not know our generalissimo, which were only three Russian and one Soviet
        You carefully read my post?
        Quote: Dart2027
        When a question is asked in this wording, it may simply not occur to you that we are talking about a man who died long before Stalin was born.
        I know who Suvorov is, but I’m not sure that I would immediately realize who we are talking about. In essence, magicians also distract attention.
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          Quote: Dart2027
          I know who Suvorov is, but I’m not sure that I would immediately realize who we are talking about. In essence, magicians also distract attention.

          Well, thank God, at least you know! No one distracts attention, for concentration there is a dialogue during which you can put everything in its place, if there is a desire.
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            Quote: businessv
            No one distracts attention, for concentration there is a dialogue during which you can put everything in its place

            And why not just ask, "Do you know who Suvorov is?" Why drag Stalin?
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              Quote: Dart2027
              And why not just ask, "Do you know who Suvorov is?" Why drag Stalin?

              It seems to me because the authors of this test wanted to show that people have forgotten how to think more broadly than is suggested by the correspondent, or by the situation, to connect events, personalities and circumstances. Indeed, concentrating on Stalin, a person misses the very meaning of the asked question and its components! It’s the same as to distract your attention, tell you about the untied lanyard at a time when you need to urgently clear the way for transport, but you, of course, first step aside because you evaluate the whole situation.
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                Quote: businessv
                Indeed, concentrating on Stalin, a person misses the very meaning of the asked question and its components!

                This is the essence of distraction.
                Quote: businessv
                about the untied lace at a time when it is urgent to clear the way for transport

                The example is clear, but not entirely correct. Any person will instinctively concentrate on transport, because this is a more serious factor.
  • 16112014nk 6 March 2020 15: 30 New
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    The Roman emperor Tarquinius the Proud once said: "Extortion, taxes, hard labor - all this is part of my system of government. It’s easiest for me to control the poor and crushed people." ©
    Two thousand years have passed .....
  • Pessimist22 6 March 2020 15: 39 New
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    I’m still waiting for him to tell about his uncle Misha, not everyone is allowed to serve in the SS, we must know about the “hero” or let him make a film.
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      Yeah, uncle there, dad wrote the anthem, the papa’s anthem itself slipped into the basis of the anthem of Russia, a pretzel, another one.
  • Galleon 6 March 2020 15: 46 New
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    "He spoke, wringing his hands, red-necked and balamut" ...
    Well, the great filmmaker and "aristocrat" did not make a film about A.V. Suvorov? Creative life, how long it was — well, I’d take it off than to play in “Zhmurki” at Balobanov. Musolit his chewing gum, musolit with a look of mortal resentment, complete impotence, simulated ignorance and intellectual spineless indifference. Ugh!
    1. Minipig79 6 March 2020 21: 23 New
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      Just Zhmurki repeatedly reviewed and will review, in contrast to the oversight of "tired 2" and other anti-Soviet lies.
  • Loess 6 March 2020 16: 09 New
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    Without touching on the problems of education, I note the following.
    What I saw in the video was leading questions to the answers that journalists needed. Girls on the issues of history to drive? Well, yes, they have frankly weak knowledge. But as far as I can remember, girls never know history. especially military, did not shine.
    The guy, of course, was stupid. On the other hand, there was a clear message - Stalin. The Great Patriotic War. Hundreds of generals. Does anyone know them all? Someone can confidently say that there was no Soviet general - the namesake of the legendary commander? Without using reference materials, any of us will name a dozen or two surnames, hardly more. Of the four hundred plus.
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      Do not be foolish, dear, the question was asked not regarding the same-name man, but Generalisimus Suvorov. Or do you think that the guy knew the Soviet Suvorov.
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    The associate professor calls this year's freshmen “aliens”.
    But how could it be otherwise if they speak English - Russian surzhik, thanks to television people, journalists and bureaucrats who themselves do not know how to say the word tolerance, a tendency in Russian, instead talking about tolerance and trends! How can they correctly write a dictation ?!
  • Sergey Averchenkov 6 March 2020 16: 20 New
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    I can not stand Mikhalkov - a sort of sleek, imposing gentleman ... I won’t be surprised if he has a batman.
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      Correctly. Do not be surprised. And not only the diary. He also has rational grains, but he began to present it like that - right down to diarrhea.
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      To get started, take an interest. who is his uncle, especially where, when, he served, much will become clear ...
  • nikvic46 6 March 2020 18: 26 New
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    Today I read a comment by an ordinary user. "The dream of sausage and lace panties came true. We stopped flying in a dream." You can have a different attitude to this. But this is an important detail in our lives.
  • 2 Level Advisor 6 March 2020 18: 54 New
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    We have a misfortune in another - in universities, the one who is written in the family is written to wave a broom. By mental abilities.

    There is such a thing .. but here you just have to be expelled for poor progress .. And I'm talking about opportunities that are greatly reduced under capitalism ..
    For example, the United States - a student loan is available to everyone.

    Firstly, not for everyone, and secondly, then they work most of their lives on this loan, and if you add a mortgage here, then you’ll be on guard, and if you put it on our Russian reality, where% is unbelievable, then there are opportunities for people tend to zero, and the state, in this situation, loses possible geniuses ..


    well, not a big part of life, but in the classic case it’s 10 years .. and thanks to specialty and knowledge, it’s still more profitable in the future than not to study - noticeably .. and no one even doubts the profitability of this loan .. plus, bonus system for good studies, sports, general activities, giving a very good student money savings ..
    Unfortunately, they have now, the level of education is on average a cut above that of us .. I'm primarily talking about universities of average ranking, it’s clear that we also have a dozen and a half excellent universities, thank God it’s preserved ..
  • nikvic46 6 March 2020 19: 59 New
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    Borjomi will no longer help. The goals are different. Socialism? Oh well. Capital above all. So mental impoverishment has long been and will be. What is ideology? ... Such is also being. In the old days, Evening schools remember. Lenin's "Learning to study and study," and now "old grandfather."

    I myself am a supporter of socialism. But we were not able to defeat such "qualities" as extortion, nepotism, orderly reverence (slavishness), and an abusive attitude towards subordinates. Many connections simply come from love or not love to subordinates. Whatever society is, all these vices they will destroy him.
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      The bestial mentality is the basis of the destructive state.
  • nikvic46 6 March 2020 20: 06 New
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    Why did I start making mistakes in the comments? Vision fell, I began to listen to audio books. And yet I think we have a lot of gifted young people. They just need to be given the way. But this does not always work, because we did not get rid of the bones of thinking. The more bronze appears in our state, the more we are at a loss, and what should we do.
  • Igor Polovodov 6 March 2020 22: 16 New
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    Let's vote for the column in the discussion of constitutional amendments - return Soviet education !!!
    1. mat-vey 7 March 2020 11: 29 New
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      Quote: Igor Polovodov
      Let's vote for the column in the discussion of constitutional amendments - return Soviet education !!!

      Not a single “column" - just a "package".
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      Yes, and not only education ... Return.
  • Givi_49 7 March 2020 01: 08 New
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    In the USSR, we were taught "so that we could work (as one teacher directly told us)", now they teach us to be able to consume, but we need to be taught so that people understand the world in which they have to live, create and create. This is a question of worldview and ideology, a question of what is not.
  • malyvalv 7 March 2020 02: 07 New
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    Mikhalkov is the most Judaic phenomenon in the modern culture of Russia. The man who shot Burnt by the Sun drowns the most anti-Stalinist film in the world for Stalin. What could be more absurd? And this is a fact.
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      This is a vivid representative of the "second oldest" ..
  • fk7777777 7 March 2020 15: 53 New
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    They used to ask in the Union - what will you do if you see a nuclear explosion in the open window? ...
  • Old26 7 March 2020 18: 31 New
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    I completely agree, it is also necessary to equate teachers and doctors with civil servants. .

    Yuri! Under damned tsarism, doctors, teachers (especially high school), engineers were, if not the highest paid categories, but the most respected. And you propose to equate them with civil servants. Push civil servants away from the feeder .... Not good. They will have to share and have less. Teachers and doctors will intercept everything from them ... laughing

    But seriously, there is another category. These are cultural workers (please do not confuse with show business). Here's another who sits on a starvation diet, although doing a great job

    Quote: 16112014nk
    Well, we also have enough discoveries and developments. The downside is that the "effective managers" who, as they say - not a single foot in the foot - but want to have their own priority in this, lead inventors and developers. And if they are refused, they act according to the method, as in the play "Dowry" - "So do not get to anyone."

    This was in Soviet times. He worked at the department of mining machines. One of the graduate students began to use computer equipment in the calculations. As a result, the driving parameters have increased. An assistant professor approaches him and says: “If you put me as a co-author, you will defend yourself at once. No, they will throw me with“ black balls. ”He refused. As a result, he defended himself 3 times or 4 times and not at the institute, but in Moscow, in Institute of Mining. So not only "managers" do this ...
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    This EGE will not lead to anything good.