The conflict could escalate into hostilities between Russia and Turkey: the reaction of the European media to negotiations on Syria

European media publish materials in which they comment on the meeting of the leaders of Russia and Turkey in Moscow on the eve of the meeting. It’s worth mentioning right away: this topic is far from the first place for the European media - all the main pages of European newspapers and all the central ones news European channel issues are not about the situation in Syria, but about the coronavirus. However, the Europeans did not ignore the Russian-Turkish negotiations.

The French edition of Le Monde writes that the meeting between Vladimir Putin and Recep Tayyip Erdogan sets in a positive mood. From material:

The new agreement, which entered into force on Thursday at midnight, is expected to put an end to military escalation in the Idlib region, where about a million people were displaced. UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres expressed the hope that the deal will lead to an immediate and lasting cessation of hostilities.

Le Monde also notes an important remark by Erdogan during negotiations with his Russian counterpart:

Turkey reserves the right by all means and everywhere to respond to any attacks by the Syrian regime.

In the Polish newspaper Rzeczpospolita, it is noted that in Europe they are not inclined to express support for any particular side in the Syrian conflict. From the article:

The fact is that today both Moscow and Ankara are accused of escalating the conflict in Syria.

Comment by the Polish reader of the newspaper Rzeczpospolita:

The problem is whether the Turks want and can even stop the terrorists at civilian and military facilities in the area. Until now, they could not realize this, so a new war began.

After the negotiations between Putin and Erdogan were completed, the German press expressed hope that now Turkey will again close its borders for Syrian refugees, a new wave of which has already tried to rush to the EU.

The Danish publication Berlingske noted that the meeting in Moscow "took place because the Syrian conflict could escalate into hostilities between Russia and Turkey with unpredictable consequences."

Comments

[Sofa expert]

Everything is muddy somehow ...

[LMN]

I agree.
Very muddy.

[Sky strike fighter]

Russia and Turkey have agreed. The paragraphs below are an annex to the Sochi accords. In essence, the Sochi accords are preserved, but with a new demarcation line.

1. Tonight, from scratch, the fighting must be stopped.
2. The M-5 highway will remain behind Assad.
3. The M-4 highway will be patrolled jointly by the Russian and Turkish military. The security buffer will be 6 km from the north and south.
4. Turkey reserves the right to respond to Assad when attacking its military.
Everything else is as in the Sochi accords.

[LMN]

Did the M-5 make a reservation?

[Sky strike fighter]

Quote: LMN

Did the M-5 make a reservation?

In fact, M 5 remained with Assad. The map at the beginning of March 6 at the link below.

Erdogan conceded on the issue of withdrawing the Syrian army and actually agreed to give the Syrians what they had at present won.

The agreement was agreed by the presidents and voiced for the press by the foreign ministers of the two countries. Under the new agreement:

1) From 00:00 on March 6, 2020, all hostilities on the existing contact line are terminated.

2) Russia and Turkey create a 6 km safety corridor. north and south of the M-4 highway. Formally, all armed groups of Islamists should be withdrawn from it. The implementation is entrusted to the Turkish military. Will they succeed or not - we'll see.

3) Turkey will unblock the M-4 highway and open it for traffic from March 15. The Russian and Turkish military from the same day begin joint patrols along the M-4 like joint patrols in northern Syria.

http://warsonline.info/siriia/novosti/siriia/turk-ru-syr-050320-51.html

[krot]

The British BBC said that such a development is dangerous for the West. And all because Turkey, a member of NATO, sided with Russia.

Most of all the Anglo-Saxons give themselves out. The only nation-parasite on the body of the earth. Which all over the world are inciting each other countries, nations, tribes, nationalities. They do not benefit from peace on the planet.

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

One thing is good that they prevented the conflict between Russia and Turkey.

[the most important]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Russia and Turkey agreed

1. Do not fight yet ..
2. Putin thinks that Erdogan will collapse and the new Turkish president will be more accommodating, while Erdogan thinks the same thing, but with regard to Russia.
3. Everyone will present the arrangement as his victory.
4. Nevertheless, a small + remained with Turkey. She does not leave Syria, she will continue to build up her arms and militants in the zone, she dictates her conditions to Russia. Not in everything, but its conditions are accepted. Erdogan to the whole world has shown that Russia can be challenged.
5. The 14th Russian-Turkish war is not over, since no one has achieved their goals, a temporary truce is simply declared.
6. I have no doubt that Turkey will begin to shake Russia from within using Islamic fanatics.
7. I hope that Russia will also look for Erdogan’s vulnerabilities, since it is better to send him to retire than to fight.

[Nyrobsky]

The most true thing that you voiced is the first and third points. For all the rest - by.

Quote: the most important

2. Putin thinks that Erdogan will collapse and the new Turkish president will be more accommodating, while Erdogan thinks the same thing, but with regard to Russia.

Would the GDP save Edik warning about an impending assassination attempt on him? Having done this, the GDP anyway got a certain lever of influence on Edik, who, in turn, understood that the GDP could be trusted and it was possible to negotiate with him.

Quote: the most important

4. Nevertheless, a small + remained with Turkey. She does not leave Syria, she will continue to build up her arms and militants in the zone, she dictates her conditions to Russia. Not in everything, but its conditions are accepted. Erdogan to the whole world has shown that Russia can be challenged.

The downside is much more obvious. Before the "challenge" Turkey formally controlled the entire province of Idlib. After the challenge to Russia was thrown, Turkey was strongly pushed to the Turkish border, squeezing more than 50% of the rebel territory. The world saw only that if you challenge Russia, it will come out more expensive.

Quote: the most important

5. The 14th Russian-Turkish war is not over, since no one has achieved their goals, a temporary truce is simply declared.

Turkey has lost control of more than 100 settlements and two highways. What did Russia lose?

Quote: the most important

6. I have no doubt that Turkey will begin to shake Russia from within using Islamic fanatics.

In principle, she did not stop this activity, but this is a double-edged sword, given the Kurdish issue and the fact that Russia can also involve a regime of "greater sympathy" for the Kurdish "militias".

Quote: the most important

7. I hope that Russia will also look for Erdogan’s vulnerabilities, since it is better to send him to retire than to fight.

Russia has found these places a long time ago, and along the way it firmly holds Erdogan for them. His retirement is not beneficial to us, but the mattresses sleep and see Edik outside the political Turkish field. No one has yet managed to shake the imaginary NATO unity and defiantly offensively ignore the US threats regarding the purchase of Russian weapons as Edik did. Let him sit. Our strategy is being built a little further than two weeks, so for 10-15 years, and therefore this "Idlib quarrel" is not a disaster. But the mattresses were discouraged by the fact that Russia and Turkey once again managed to avoid a direct armed conflict.

[Oquzyurd]

The Turks, setting maximum goals, actually planned the minimum that suited them. They achieved this minimum. In addition, they raised their ratings in front of the whole world, especially in the field of technological weapons and their ability to use, which no one expected from them, thinking that they are traders and plant tomatoes. In a sense, many countries were surprised and shocked by what they saw. UAVs are so advertised that the lines are lined up for purchase, for years to come.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Oquzyurd

Setting the maximum goals, the Turks actually planned the minimum that suited them. They achieved this minimum.

A controversial statement, given that as a result of "maximum tasks" Ankara halved the controlled territory, indeed, reducing it to a minimum from those indicators that were a month and a half ago. As for me, if Ankara consistently fulfilled the Sochi agreements and put the insane militants in a stall, then it would not have to use a military contingent in order to “skillfully” lose part of Idlib.

In addition, they raised their ratings in front of the eyes of the whole world, especially in the field of technological weapons and their ability to use, which no one expected from them, thinking that they were traders and plant tomatoes. In a sense, many countries were surprised and shocked from what he saw. UAVs are so advertised that the lines are lined up for purchase, for years to come.

I don’t argue that the work of the Turkish UAVs proved to be effective, but we must admit that Ankara used the surprise factor and this success was possible due to the absence of air defense systems in this area by the SAA since terrorists have no aircraft or strike drones. In principle, and in these conditions, the CAA was shot down by 7 drones, after which their activity and effectiveness fell sharply. In fact, no one says that Turkey is just tomatoes and tourism.

[Oquzyurd]

"A controversial statement, given that as a result of" maximum tasks "" I understand Turkish, and have long followed the analytical programs that run for hours, and the most powerful political scientists, former experienced ambassadors and generals participate in them. In almost all analyzes ( last year) indicated a security zone along the line of the m-5 and m-4 routes. Yesterday's truce completely coincides with these conclusions. Even the line (not nab posts) of the location of the Turkish troops inside the Idlib territory indicated in advance what they were going and were ready to sign.

[Keyser soze]

raised their rating in front of the eyes of the whole world, especially in the field of technological weapons and their ability to use,

Yes, just raised to heaven. Crammed them for the most I do not want. Everyone was convinced that only the lazy did not kick the Turks. Which we will see soon in Libya.

thinking that they are traders and plant tomatoes.

To plant tomatoes still need skills. They are available in Italy. And Turkish plastic is hardly a tomato.

[Oquzyurd]

You are not objective, only slogans and idle talk. And what we see, the heads of state know it, we are observers.

[Keyser soze]

You are not objective, only slogans and idle talk.

But you are 100% objective. The whole world was convinced of the power of the Turkish army, in which a complete mechdivision, with the support of aviation and a million broad women, could not cope with the depleted Syrian army, which had been fighting longer than the Second World War.

.... we are observers

Well, of course. And the same thing was observed in the 19th century and in the 20th century, and even now. How many do not push modern military equipment into the Turks will still remain at the level of the broads.

[the most important]

Quote: Nyrobsky

7. I hope that Russia will also look for Erdogan’s vulnerabilities, since it is better to send him to retire than to fight.

Russia has long found these places and, in the process, holds Erdogan tightly for them.

Here you are completely wrong. If she had, Turkey would not have arranged a battle check in Idlib. And the whole north of Syria is almost under the occupation of Turkey.

Quote: Nyrobsky

Our strategy is being built a little more than two weeks, so for 10-15 years, and therefore this "Idlib quarrel" is not a disaster.

So I say everyone is waiting for who is the first to leave the political arena.

[Salty]

Quote: the most important

If held, Turkey would not have arranged a battle check in Idlib

Let me remind you - this time it was not the Turks who started the fighting.

Quote: the most important

And the whole north of Syria is almost under the occupation of Turkey

As a result of the recent turmoil, the Turks lost half of the territory they had previously controlled.

[yura_g]

In fact, half of Idlib is recaptured. You can relax.

[MAGRIB]

It will soon be cloudier ..

[Vasyan1971]

all the main pages of European newspapers and all the central news releases of European channels are not devoted to the situation in Syria, but to the coronavirus.

Here. They say that before both World Wars their foreboding was in the air. The tension was felt physically. According to my feelings - this is not the case today.

[Nastia makarova]

you trolled me and I turned out to be 100% right in the negotiations, I'm waiting for an apology

[Swordserg]

I didn’t troll, but I will gladly apologize excuse me! Happy holiday!

[Nastia makarova]

thanks a lot

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

you trolled me

You misinterpreted my words. My main thought was: "Don't say, gop" when you shouted joyfully
Quote: Nastia Makarova
pro-Turkish fighters are running
Quote: Nastia Makarova
igil is almost destroyed, idlib remained

Quote: Nastia Makarova

igil destroyed in syria

I recall:

Quote: Vasyan1971

We will wait until they completely run away and celebrate for real.

Quote: Vasyan1971

Phrases like "Hurray, we are breaking, Swedes are bending!" Sound good in hindsight, when the result is already known.

Quote: Vasyan1971

Your triumphant cries, like "the barmaley are over, the Turks themselves will not fight" rings in my ears, excuse me ...

Quote: Vasyan1971

Barmalei feed base will be saved, restored and climbed again.

And it turned out, just close to my text. Where did you find "trolling", I don't know. I see no reason to apologize ...

[Nastia makarova]

everything turned out as I said 100%
1. trapped no one gives
2% idlib for Assad
3 control even for m4 which is still far

[Vasyan1971]

Yes. But earlier you said that "the enemy is running", "almost victory" and so on, which devalues ​​what you said later, adjusting to the current situation. I said that it is too early to rejoice, "almost" a victory is not a victory, which, in fact, happened. By the way, anything else can happen.

[Nastia makarova]

no one is happy, there is no strategic victory, there are tactical ones, and that the enemy is not running ???

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

and that the enemy is not running ???

Well, strictly speaking, no.

Quote: Nastia Makarova

pro-Turkish fighters are running

I will not remember about "almost victory" again.

Quote: Nastia Makarova

no strategic victory

And what do you think is strategic victory?

Quote: Nastia Makarova

I understand more than 90% of this audience))) where I will not say openly !!!

Kaneshna! Paphos could have been smaller.
However, okay! Their bean is capitular! I will throw you positive emotions.

Quote: Nastia Makarova

that's right, it will be, there will be a truce and an offensive, now the Turks will iron out the SAA for a couple of weeks and there will be an agreement and a truce, then after 3-4 months there will be an attack on the SAA only in the south of idlib

We will wait 3-4 months.
But just in case, I will return your words to you:

Quote: Nastia Makarova

there is no difference what you foresaw and what not, you will not change back and you will live with it

[Nastia makarova]

wait for the next time to recoup)))) I guessed everything completely and you didn’t do anything)))) well maybe next time I’ll be lucky

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

wait for the next time to recoup

Do we have a competition?

Quote: Nastia Makarova

I guessed everything completely

Guessing?
What did I "not guess"? Quote. What did I assert against your fortune-telling? Please quote.

[Nastia makarova]

you said that I fantasize and that this will not happen in the end everything coincided))))

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

you said that I fantasize and that this will not happen

Quote please.
Anastasia, I beg you, more closely!

[Nastia makarova]

I do not want))) and there is no time to search

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

I do not want))) and there is no time to search

For some reason I thought so ...

[dauria]

everything turned out as I said 100%

Absolutely. Happy holiday, esteemed adviser to the Minister of Foreign Affairs (No irony !!!!)

[Nastia makarova]

Thank you very much))))

[Strashila]

"The conflict could escalate into hostilities between the Russian Federation and Turkey", if it escalates, it will clearly go beyond the territory of Syria, and the Turks will have to catch not from the south, but mostly from the north.

[maidan.izrailovich]

Twenty five again ....
Like a groundhog day. All repeats. Each negotiation ends on an optimistic note. But if Erdogan returns to Turkey, then everything (agreement) disappears somewhere. And there is another escalation of the conflict.

[cniza]

Yes, and then the Sultan tries to "be smart" ...

[ochakow703]

Or maybe to settle it in Rostov?

[LMN]

Late((
Coup ended

[MAGRIB]

So he killed two soldiers while he flew to Turkey .. The answer followed. I do not believe this truce.

[yura_g]

Yes, an ambush. I, too, resolutely tell the boys - Tomorrow we’ll go to the bathhouse. I come home, and there my wife ... Native man. I strongly say - the bath will wait. Here.

[Uncle lee]

Turkey again closes borders for Syrian refugees

That’s what bothers Europe! And the fact that blood is pouring, somehow in passing!

[cniza]

They are also interested in the virus with the crown, but the fact that they kill people and feed the thugs is in the background.

[ZaharoFF]

His shirt, as usual, closer to the body. When they had it differently. I would say that they don’t even fuck what is going on there.

[Mavrikiy]

The conflict could escalate into hostilities between Russia and Turkey: the reaction of the European media to negotiations on Syria

Do not wait! Erdogan had a tomato for life.

[Fedorov]

For Turkey, the war with Russia is suicide. Even if they close the strait, it’s even worse for them. Russia's advantage in armaments and experience is enormous. We all know how all the wars between Russia and Turkey ended, and NATO obviously will not stand up for the inadequate Erdogan.
Yes, and the Kurds will simply flood the stream of Russian weapons.

[Fedorov]

Also, the Turkish economy will simply collapse. There is no tourism business, there is no export. Karachun.

[KCA]

Freedom to Comrade Ajalan!

[Prometey]

Quote: Fedorov

For Turkey, the war with Russia is suicide. Even if they close the strait, it’s even worse for them. Russia's advantage in armaments and experience is enormous.

Yes, what is there. We will fill them with tomatoes.

[rocket757]

The conflict could develop into .....

Center players know, understand what they want, what is possible and what is not! Otherwise, if they did not become central and could not remain so for such a long time ....
External noise, this is just a camouflage background, camouflage, which serves to cover and fulfill their goals.
it was, it is, it will be so!

[cniza]

Soon we will see and hear everything, have found a solution or not ...

[rocket757]

Quote: cniza

Soon we will see and hear everything, have found a solution or not ...

Hi
Serious uncles play serious games!
They mumble, plan and make grandiose plans! Seek to implement them !!! Getting on the nose they know how to bounce back to the previous occupied lines ... that's how it works, again they mumble, build NEW REAL PLANS and ....
in general, everything is SERIOUS, otherwise they would not be considered as such, they were not such.
Nothing's over yet, just ANTRAKT!

[cniza]

Greetings!

Nothing's over yet, just ANTRAKT!

Exactly so, and given the temperament of the Sultan, he will not be big ...

[Reptiloid]

Good day, dear comrades

Quote: rocket757

The conflict could develop into .....

Center players know, understand what they want, what is possible and what is not! ....
External noise, this is just a camouflage background .....!

Somewhere in the network there is a video --- negotiations take place next to the sculpture of Catherine ןן. And she really didn’t like Turkey

[rocket757]

Hi Dmitry
A beautiful gesture, symbolic ... if not by chance it happened.
Seriously, some lost a little, but the general background is .... THERE is now not even a peacekeeper, just a BIG ARBITER! who are forced to listen and listen.
In general, we'll see.

[Reptiloid]

I think not by chance! Sign language. Not to say, but to remind ---- that's what happened! Where is Russia and where is Turkey.

[rocket757]

So the two former empires agree ... but the forces are different, and their interests can be defended in different ways.

[GELEZNII_KAPUT]

Could ?! If Americans and Turks do not leave Syria as a result of negotiations, the Syrians will use force, said SAR President Bashar al-Assad. March 5, 2020, 21:05

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT

Could ?! If Americans and Turks do not leave Syria as a result of negotiations, the Syrians will use force, said SAR President Bashar al-Assad. March 5, 2020, 21:05

I won’t tell you about the Americans, but it will be difficult with the Turks .... with a new attempt to recapture Idlib, Turkey is leading troops, and this time it will be a full-fledged Syrian-Turkish war over Syrian territory. Of course, there was a war between them now, but it was of a limited nature and Turkey did not use all the reserves of its armed forces, and here without military support from Russia, it would be difficult for Syria to recapture its territory by force. And we, apparently, will not go to a military conflict with Turkey.

[askort154]

Turkey will now close its borders again for Syrian refugees, whose new wave has already tried to rush to the EU.

For a long time there are no Syrian refugees. The Syrians, on the contrary, are returning.
Erdogan opens floodgates for rabble-refugees who are being forced out of the border zone, and "old" refugees in camps on his territory. These are those who do not want to fight on the side of the "moderate opposition", as well as "sleeping terrorist groups." In short of all, except for Turkomans.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: askort154

For a long time there are no Syrian refugees. The Syrians, on the contrary, are returning.

Most of the refugees from Africa, from the Middle East, are many from Sudan, I even see from Sri Lanka and Pakistan, not to mention Nigeria. But over the past two years, there have been practically no Syrians.

[JonnyT]

Then the Greeks showed statistics on refugees, which Turkey released. So there are 65% Afghans, then Pakistanis. The Syrians themselves are less than 4%.
So much for the idyllic refugees)))

[tihonmarine]

all the central news releases on European channels are not about the situation in Syria, but about the coronavirus.

The main coronavirus, and that people die a lot more from wars, Europe doesn't give a damn.

[HAM]

The most interesting thing is that Europe is going to defeat Russia, although with the coronovirus they have almost panic, even in peace conditions they are openly crap, and what will happen in Europe if not even an atomic strike is delivered?

[Kapkan]

I’m more interested in what my president said in a conversation with a Turkish one-on-one.
Surely there was voiced something like: "if you are us, then we will ..." At least, I will hope for it until the last.

[Air force]

The European media are more interested in the coronavirus, they are somehow strange, because if the flow of refugees to Europe increases significantly due to Erdogan's reckless policy, this will not help reduce the risk of the spread of the coronavirus, and financial losses will increase, not to mention the risk of terrorists who have shaved off into the EU countries. beards. In general, Europe was "defined" finally, its role was reduced to discussing what others are doing and how not to influence these matters. They cannot influence Erdogan, he keeps them for "Faberge" and any attempt to present something to him opens a "gateway" with refugees, and soon he will also supply gas to Europe, so there is hardly anything, one tap will turn off with gas, another to open with refugees. Therefore, now, instead of influencing Erdogan so that he would stop the lawlessness, the European media pretend that everything is under control and that it does not really concern them, such as Turkey and Russia, in general Europe has confirmed that only Russia can influence Erdogan , which means that Russia has an influence on Europe more than snickering Europeans think. PS I noticed that the Polish newspaper accused Turkey and Russia of the escalation, but not the Syrian troops with Assad, probably the editor forgot the mantra about "Assad must leave."

[Simple]

They cannot influence Erdogan, he keeps them for "Faberge" ...

But in fact, it may turn out quite the opposite.

[Was mammoth]

From the stingy lines of Turkish and Western media ....
A temporary and shaky compromise has been concluded that does not affect the main causes of Turkish aggression. How long?

[cniza]

This is not predictable; at any second, hostilities may resume.

[cniza]

Turkey reserves the right by all means and everywhere to respond to any attacks by the Syrian regime.

My opinion, the Sultan will not observe anything ...

[serzh.kost]

I don’t understand, is it permogue or zrad? I got confused ... in your manuals that they write or have not yet been sent from above?

probably it looks like a compromise. but I’m sure there will be opposite interpretations, and putinsil and erdoganslil, depending on the degree of tenacity.
it is not yet clear what nuances are written there and how everything will be implemented.

[rotmistr60]

Frankly, I am surprised by the reaction of Polish readers towards the Russian side - balanced positive. Otherwise, as many had expected, the meeting took place and so far has borne fruit in words.

[Essex62]

And we don’t care what the gayropeans think and write? The opinions of those who live "in hindsight" do not deserve any attention and respect. Bend your line and minimize losses, incl. and the allies.

[Den717]

It’s worth mentioning right away: this topic is far from the first place for the European media - all the main European newspaper strips and all the central news releases of European channels are not dedicated to the situation in Syria, but to the coronavirus.

Considering how European media coherently respond to certain aspects of complex
political relations along the West-East line, I think that with a "viral" accent, the shadow government is covering up the real difficult problems of the Middle East, burdening the population of Europe. And I would also like to draw the attention of the Polish leadership, as our history of relations with Turkey is no less historically complicated , do not interfere with reaching productive agreements at least in a limited time frame.If both sides want progress in relations, then 15 wars in history are not an obstacle, however.

[Burdock]

There won't be a big war, and thanks for that. But hundreds of thousands of Russians are worried about the question - what will happen to the holiday season in Turkey? The fact that neither Russia nor Turkey needs problems with tourism is understandable, but there are still parties to the conflict that can do nasty things from around the corner, as was the case with Egypt. And so, if Russia and Turkey are partners and "brothers forever", and in some limited area of ​​Syria there will be an endless massacre, so what, gentlemen, go for all the money, and who we are, and what can we do? Nothing .. Assad, Alawites, Sunites, Turks, Kurds, terrorists, prohibited by us, prohibited from them, ... to all of them. Good already, give people a good rest on their vacations.

[Simple]

The leader of Christian Democrats in the European Parliament, Manfred Weber (CSU), threatened Turkey with the suspension of the customs union. Thus, the leader of the EVP faction in the European Parliament reacted to the treatment of Ankara with migrants on the border with Greece.


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[Kamchatsky]

In my humble opinion: they told Erdogan that before the round of the season they would find him a coronovirus and punish him for almost fifteen days.

[ZaharoFF]

Almost a world. Almost agreed. It’s like a little pregnant. They drive each other by the nose.