The results of the meeting between Putin and Erdogan. Idlib knot weakened yet


On March 5, a meeting between the presidents of Russia and Turkey took place in Moscow, the goals of which were de-escalation, and ideally, a complete resolution of the conflict situation in Syria that had escalated to the limit. Judging by the statements made at the end of the summit, it was not fruitless and the parties nevertheless managed to come to certain agreements. However, the question of what Idlib expects (a lasting peace or a shaky truce) as a result remains open.


According to official information, following a six-hour (three in private “tête-à-tête” mode and exactly the same with participation of members of government delegations) meeting between Vladimir Putin and Recep Erdogan, a joint communiqué was signed, identifying the main clauses of arrangements. These are: a complete ceasefire on the currently registered contact line of the warring parties from March 6 this year; the creation of a six-kilometer safety corridor covering the M-4 strategic highway both from the south and from the north; starting on March 15, joint patrolling of this freeway with the participation of Russian and Turkish military personnel.

The statements made at the end of the talks by the leaders of Russia and Turkey, let’s say, are somewhat different. Recep Erdogan, in his usual rather emotional manner, continued to talk about the need to give the new status quo “the Idlib de-escalation zone” and the stories about “Ankara’s great determination to implement the Sochi accords”. And in the end, I couldn’t resist frowning, warning that “reserves the right to answer in case of new Syrian attacks”. By the way, he placed them (but not on Russia) “responsibility for exacerbating the situation”.

All this would have sounded quite serious and weighty if it were not for the subsequent words of Vladimir Putin, who said with emphasized calmness that Moscow’s “assessments of what is happening in Syria” do not always coincide with the “Turkish partners”, but in this case, an acceptable solution is all -so achieved.

The reality is that during the six-hour “battle”, clearly not Turkey got the upper hand. This is perfectly clear if only from the fact that before Erdogan’s trip to Moscow in Ankara, the voices of politicians were heard in full force, urging him to “put pressure on” Putin, demanding from him “apologies” and even some “compensation” for the death of the Turkish military near Idlib. The Turkish president received condolences on this occasion, but no more. It is very significant that the arrogant and warlike rhetoric of Erdogan, who had recently demanded that Russia "get out of his way in Syria" and promised a "terrible revenge" for air strikes in Idlib, in Moscow was somehow instantly replaced by assurances that the relations between the two countries now “Are at their peak” and the Turkish president sees his main task exclusively as their further development.

Perhaps the reason here lies in the fact that both states have come to the start of negotiations with slightly different positions. Russia, according to military analysts, on the eve of significantly increased its presence in Syria - both the transfer of warships, and with the help of the "air bridge". In addition, the SAR forces just before the meeting kicked the pro-Turkish militants out of a couple of other settlements, and the Russian military police were introduced into the fierce confrontation of Sarakib. Ankara at that very time was engaged in the fact that it enthusiastically “nightmares” the European Union, opening the borders for new numerous groups of refugees seeking to go there. And what did you get? Reproaches from Brussels, Paris and Berlin and vague promises of "support" from Washington, which had previously made it clear that there would be no military assistance. Some unequal successes in the preparation, do not you find?

Hence the results. There is clearly no question of any withdrawal of the Russian troops or the "retreat of Damascus forces to the position of 2018". As well as the requirements to establish a no-fly zone over Idlib for all but Turkish UAVs. Anyway, apparently, Ankara’s attempts to bargain for itself any other concessions using the eastern bazaar methods, other than those previously agreed in the same Sochi, were stopped quite decisively during the conversation. I had to agree on the conditions of Moscow.

Be that as it may, the first steps to resolving a conflict that has almost gone out of control have been taken. Now it remains to hope that the fate of those declarations that were adopted on the same occasion in Sochi and even earlier in Astana will not expect Moscow agreements between Russia and Turkey on Idlib. It is good that the good intentions voiced in the Kremlin are paved for the road to peace in Syria, and not to the next circle lasting in this country for which year of military hell.
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  1. anjey 6 March 2020 06: 13 New
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    Indeed, Vodka and Cancer is a world forever laughing
    1. siberalt 6 March 2020 06: 19 New
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      Fairy tales are coming soon. For centuries, they fought with the Turks, the mind was taught the mind, so what? Is Erdogan already a Turk? winked
    2. Finches 6 March 2020 06: 30 New
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      Uncle Vova poured Erdogan vodka from bottles on the labels of which were portraits of Suvorov, Ushakov ... and pictures - The Fall of Ishmael, the Turkish fleet near the island of Tendra, Nakhimov against the backdrop of Sinop and burning boats ... Erdogan drank and cried! laughing
  2. Scipio 6 March 2020 06: 19 New
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    Interestingly, tomato Sultan 1 came up with a fiery speech for his people, to present a meeting with Putin, as another victory? We are waiting for news about how the Turkish media will fantasize on this subject .....
    1. Uncle lee 6 March 2020 06: 55 New
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      reserves the right to reply
      That's the whole result of 6 hours of negotiations!
      1. novel66 6 March 2020 07: 23 New
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        no, well, swelled along the way - also the result lol ours to you hi
        1. Uncle lee 6 March 2020 07: 29 New
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          Roma hi They didn’t take it in their mouths - the questions were very cool!
          PS Well, maybe Shoigu and their Ministry of Defense waved at the forehead after signing the papers! winked
          1. novel66 6 March 2020 07: 33 New
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            six hours - not a drop ?? It is fantastic!!
            1. Uncle lee 6 March 2020 07: 37 New
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              Quote: novel xnumx
              not a drop

              Learn, student: One athlete, the Koran does not order another! lol
              1. novel66 6 March 2020 07: 46 New
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                wrong they live .....
                1. Uncle lee 6 March 2020 07: 49 New
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                  Quote: novel xnumx
                  wrong

                  Then I completely agree with you! drinksBut in a strange monastery, with its charter we will not climb! hi
              2. knn54 6 March 2020 08: 56 New
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                Vladimir, the Qur'an says about fermented juice of the fruit of the vine, wine, cognac.
                About vodka, no. The words are not mine, but a Muslim buddy.
                And, as often happens, the question in the comma is not to leave.
                1. Nyrobsky 6 March 2020 12: 07 New
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                  Quote: knn54
                  Vladimir, the Qur'an says about fermented juice of the fruit of the vine, wine, cognac.
                  About vodka, no. The words are not mine, but a Muslim buddy.

                  Everything is correct. The Quran was written long before Mendeleev created the optimal 40 degree solution of alcohol, whose name is "vodka". yes
      2. Why are you breaking off the sofa analysts ?! laughing They were already giving each other virtual orders "For victory in negotiations over Erdogan," and here you are with your brevity!)))
        1. Uncle lee 6 March 2020 08: 24 New
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          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          with its brevity!

          Cr. sister. talent. ! lol
      3. 1976AG 6 March 2020 09: 38 New
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        Quote: Uncle Lee
        reserves the right to reply
        That's the whole result of 6 hours of negotiations!

        It was hard to expect otherwise. Now the state of the parties is fixed, but this is not for long. Soon, shelling will begin again and everything will go on a new one. The hottest phase of the conflict is yet to come.
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  4. Odysseus 6 March 2020 06: 35 New
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    The results of the meeting are expected - another truce.
    For Assad and the Iranians, the results are positive. M 5 is unlocked, the enemy is thrown back from Aleppo.
    For Turkey, a tactical defeat, but in general everything is fine. For them, this war is of fundamental importance, and they can fight at least 20 years in this regime. They believe that the enemy, fully supplied from the warehouses of the Russian army, will run out of steam. But Erdogan lost politically, which, of course, is used by his opponents inside Turkey.
    For Russia, without changes: a tactical victory at a high price, strategically the situation is hopeless, you can neither leave nor stay.
    1. Snail N9 6 March 2020 08: 14 New
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      The Americans deftly pulled Russia into this Syrian adventure, taking advantage of the Kremlin’s panic fear of any kind of rivals ’pipes, frightening the Kremlin with the ар Qatar pipes’ Then they deftly manipulated using the media, playing on ambitions and fanning the Kremlin’s conceit, forcing Russia to get deeper into this viper . Then, when the situation was brought to a logical end, that is, the dismantling of Turkey and Russia immediately loomed, cleverly got out of there, retaining control of the wells, pumping oil, as long as the situation allows it. And Russia .... and what about Russia, it’s like in that proverb- "the claw is bogged down, and there the abyss is over the whole bird ....."
      1. Odysseus 6 March 2020 12: 20 New
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        Quote: Snail N9
        The Americans deftly dragged Russia into this Syrian adventure, taking advantage of the Kremlin’s panic fear of any kind of rival “pipes”, frightening the Kremlin with a “Qatari pipe”

        It is hard to imagine why the Russian authorities climbed into this adventure. The Qatari pipe was supposed as an option of explanation, but this is not very logical. In Syria, the civil war has been going on since 2011, the east was controlled by ISIS, what is the pipe in such circumstances? Yes, and through Iraq, also engulfed in war.
        Helping Syria is a noble cause, Assad is really better than Islamists of all stripes, but this had to be done in 2011-2012. Then the problem was solved, but just then, Mr. Putin declared that we had no interests in Syria.
        Quote: Snail N9
        And Russia .... and what about Russia, it’s like in that proverb- "the claw is bogged down, and there the abyss is over the whole bird ....."

        In any case, you need to either leave or really fight for the present to reach the state border.
        The prospect of an endless sluggish war at our expense is the worst that can be.
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    w70 6 March 2020 06: 50 New
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    Tryndets seem Assad
    1. astronom1973n 6 March 2020 07: 03 New
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      Quote: w70
      Tryndets seem Assad

      Are you glad Do you expect that in the SAR there will be democracy both in Iraq and Libya?
      1. w70
        w70 6 March 2020 07: 04 New
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        No, as in Turkey, Syria is already doomed to collapse
        1. 1976AG 6 March 2020 09: 39 New
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          Quote: w70
          No, as in Turkey, Syria is already doomed to collapse

          Somewhere I heard it a few years ago ...
      2. Amateur 6 March 2020 07: 32 New
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        And I wonder why in Israel they’re not afraid of all the Ishil, Nusr and other Taliban? Hope for peaceful coexistence with these scumbags? Or will lured jihadists be controlled? Osama to them in memory.
  6. Snail N9 6 March 2020 07: 03 New
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    The meeting ended with "conservation", as usual ..... that is, nothing.
    1. Dimas54 6 March 2020 07: 08 New
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      Just for Syria and Russia, this is very beneficial, this time.
      For Erdogan, no, his opposition is raging in the country, he has already brewed porridge.
    2. Salty 6 March 2020 07: 30 New
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      Quote: Snail N9
      The meeting ended with "conservation", as usual ..... that is, nothing.

      Let me remind you - a couple of days ago they predicted a Russian-Turkish war, on the initiative of the Sultan. The war did not happen, the Sultan was pacified. Do you call this a lack of result? And what would be a “result” for you, put in words?
      1. novel66 6 March 2020 07: 35 New
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        Erdogan on his knees, crying in Putin's vest .. dreams ... hi
  7. Thrifty 6 March 2020 07: 17 New
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    Now, while there is a shaky truce, the Syrians need to smash in other parts of the front, with the help of our VKS militants. And in the area of ​​confrontation with the Turks, strengthen the military group, primarily air defense.
    1. MAGRIB 6 March 2020 13: 47 New
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      Yeah, exactly .. And Turkey will see all this laughing
  8. rocket757 6 March 2020 07: 19 New
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    We will see. It will be agreed, it doesn’t mean it’s direct, it’s straightforward, everything is done ... all the more, the results of the agreements will be interpreted, the parties WILL BE DIFFERENT !!!
    Obviously, the "Sultan" ignores the official authorities of Syria and this is the most uncertain, negative factor at this point in time.
    In general, everything is not simple.
    Formally, an attempt was made to prevent the reputational losses of the contracting parties ... the question is, who is in the biggest span, if I may say so ??? For some reason, the view leads towards the Syrian state ... the boom is to assume that we simply do not know everything at this moment in time.
  9. Grandfather Crimea 6 March 2020 07: 25 New
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    The result, of course, is for the average person and not very impressive. And what were we waiting for? They will shoot slowly. But during this time it will be possible for the Syrians to concentrate in a calm atmosphere, prepare and finish this bodyagie, the territory to the border should be for the Syrians. Soon, everything will start again, but with a rethinking of mistakes)))))))))
  10. Sergey Averchenkov 6 March 2020 08: 17 New
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    Well, this truce will probably last for some time (I think it’s very small), and then everything will start again.
  11. Bigriver 6 March 2020 08: 42 New
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    Quote: Odyssey
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    For Turkey, a tactical defeat, but in general everything is fine. For them, this war is of fundamental importance - and laughing they can fight at least 20 years in this mode ...

    If we assume that Erdogan is almost eternal, and he has the same strong domestic political position as Putin’s, then yes. In general, everything is fine. laughing
    But, "raisins" in the ambush complex, which hit the undersultan.
    Today, he is waging war in Syria, Libya, with the Kurds. There is not a single country with which Erdogan would have equal normal relations in the region.
    Inside Turkey, for now, he has a position to write to write, but the tendency is worthless. Opposition in the last election of 2019 took Istanbul and Ankara. Achievements in the RPS - zero point, hell of a tenth, there is nothing to present to the public.
    And most importantly, speaking locally, about Idlib. Erdogan's goal is not 20 years of war, but the provision of a buffer zone along the Turkish border due to Syria (800 per 30 km). And as soon as possible, because you need at least something that can be presented as a victory.
    After reconnaissance in battle to clarify the "red lines of Putin" - this task became an unfulfilled dream.
    And Turkey’s Idlib bandzone is today the only remaining sponsor.
    To feed and supply such a grouping without any strategic prospects? ..
    Well, someone thinks it's ok wink laughing
    1. Odysseus 6 March 2020 12: 09 New
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      Inside Turkey, for now, he has a position to write to write, but the tendency is worthless. Opposition in the last election of 2019 took Istanbul and Ankara. Achievements in the RPS - zero point, hell of a tenth, there is nothing to present to the public.

      Right. But the fact is that the secular and pro-European opposition to Erdogan is even more implacable in relation to Assad. So the change of power in Turkey will not help us in any way.
      So in relation to Libya, your logic works, the opposition, in the event of its victory, will withdraw the army from there.
      Quote: BigRiver
      And most importantly, speaking locally, about Idlib. Erdogan's goal is not 20 years of war, but the provision of a buffer zone along the Turkish border due to Syria (800 per 30 km)

      This is also true, and he practically achieved his goal. And this goal is vital for Turkey. Turkey will always be there, there will always be Sunnis in Syria, they do not need to conduct anything thousands of kilometers away. So an attempt to fully restore the territorial integrity of Syria is impossible without a direct clash with Turkey. Without war with Turkey, staying in Syria is simply Sisyphean labor.
      1. Bigriver 6 March 2020 14: 07 New
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        Quote: Odyssey
        ... and he practically achieved his goal. And this goal is vital for Turkey.

        What purpose? The buffer zone is an intermediate target. The ultimate - the Kurds.
        There will be no buffer zone, it has moved away from this goal by 1900 sq. Km and, it seems, will merge this topic gradually.
        Honestly, for me, the negotiating position on the M-4 highway merged by Erdogan is strange. She, after all, was not even fragmentarily intercepted by the SAA.
        The most serious in negotiations like Putin-Erdogan remains BEYOND press releases. And I think that the GDP offered the Turks something, perhaps by resolving the Kurdish issue.
        Weak Turkey is also not in our interests. Here we look like the Great Britons in their views on European affairs. There should be a pool of mutually balancing states on the BV. For example: Israel, Iran, Turks. And we will continue to play the role of moderator-mediator. Which, by the way, is going well with us.
  12. Dmitry Zverev 6 March 2020 10: 14 New
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    It is very good that there will be a truce for the time being. Our military analysts will have time to analyze the situation with the mass use of shock drones by the Turks. To evaluate the effectiveness of this new phenomenon in military science. Military advisers and air defense specialists will have time to give a lecture to the Syrian command that the Armor c1 division is not one machine without ammunition in the field, but, it turns out, 6 vehicles and 1 command post combined into a common network. In short, a truce can bring great benefits and a serious advantage in the future.
    The second time, the focus with shock drones at the Turks will not work. Money down the drain.
  13. Ros 56 6 March 2020 10: 34 New
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    In the Donbass, too, agreed on a ceasefire, and ....... Exactly the same situation will be here.
    Py Sy
    Barmalei are the same everywhere, in Syria and in Ukraine. until they are razed to the ground, they will not calm down.
    1. MAGRIB 6 March 2020 14: 01 New
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      A heavy share of Russia. Everywhere her barmalei surround
      1. iouris 6 March 2020 21: 20 New
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        You are the one to blame.
  14. protoss 6 March 2020 11: 35 New
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    until July, a truce would have lasted more or less, otherwise I had already bought hotels and tickets, I really would not want to get into grandmothers.
    1. Ros 56 6 March 2020 19: 56 New
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      You can hand it over, take it to the coronavirus, they will return everything.