Russian small-sized radar against drones

Russian small-sized radar against drones

Small-sized station MBRLS-MF2 developed by "Fazotron-NIIR" and SC SRSiM MAI. Photo Bastion-opk.ru


In some situations, a modern ground-based robotic complex (RTK) or an unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) requires radar equipment. Due to objective limitations, such radar stations (radars) should be light in weight and small in size. Currently, several similar products are being created in our country at once, and in the foreseeable future they can be brought to actual use.

New project


The existence of one of these projects became known the other day. On March 4, the Krasnaya Zvezda newspaper published an interview with the head of the Era technopolis, Lieutenant General Vladimir Ivanovsky. The topic of conversation was the current and future work of the technopolis.

General Ivanovsky said that now in the "Era" research is being carried out on the topic of multifunctional software radar of small dimensions and mass. The initiator of this project was the High Command of the VKS.

The characteristics and other features of the promising radar remained unsolved. It is specified that the station will be suitable for use on various samples of military equipment. Small reconnaissance UAVs will be able to carry it as a reconnaissance vehicle. It also provides for the use of radars on ground-based RTKs - in this case, it will perform the functions of the so-called. technical vision.

Information on the possibility of using radar on small UAVs allows you to determine its approximate size and weight. So, the modern lightweight Orlan-10 UAV is capable of carrying a payload of no more than a few liters and weighing up to 5 kg. Now this drone is one of the main examples of its class in the Russian army, and it is entirely possible that new equipment is being developed taking into account precisely its capabilities.


Aviation Radar H010 "Beetle-AE". Does the product weigh more than 240-250 kg and occupy almost the entire nose of the carrier? which does not allow its use on light and medium aircraft. Wikimedia Commons Photos

In addition to air platforms, the new radars will be able to carry ground, and in their case it will be not only a means of reconnaissance. In this context, dimensions and mass retain their significance, but new requirements arise related to the specifics of the radar on the ground. Thus, the design of a universal station for air and ground systems, with all the expected benefits, is quite complicated.

In the case of its successful implementation, the army will be able to gain new opportunities. So, existing and promising UAVs can be equipped not only with optical, but also with radar reconnaissance equipment - with a clear increase in operational efficiency. Similarly, the potential of ground-based RTKs will increase.

Nevertheless, all of these possibilities remain a matter of the future. The small-sized radar project from Era is at the research stage, and the completion date has not yet been announced. It can be assumed that after the recent announcement, the project will not be hidden, and in the near future its results will be announced. In particular, it cannot be ruled out that the radar or its elements will be shown at the future Army 2020 exhibition.

Novelty of the past


Radar from the "Era" is not the only domestic development of its kind. A few years ago, a similar project was presented by the Fazotron-NIIR Corporation (part of the Radioelectronic Technologies Concern) and the Scientific Center for Special Radioelectronic Systems and Management of the Moscow Aviation Institute (Scientific Center SRSiM MAI). Their small-sized station was designated MBRLS-MF2.

Design work on the MBRLS-MF2 product was carried out at the beginning of the last decade. In 2012, the station was first shown to the public at one of the specialized exhibitions. At the end of the year, an experienced radar successfully passed tests at the stand. At the beginning of 2013, developers announced their readiness to move to the flight test stage. A few months after this, the prototype was shown at the MAKS-2013 exhibition.


Light UAV "Orlan-10" - one of the main examples of its class in the Russian army. Photo by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation / mil.ru

It was reported that some domestic manufacturers of aviation and unmanned equipment became interested in the MBRLS-MF2 station. In early 2014, the developers claimed that this radar could soon become part of the onboard equipment of one of the promising UAVs. What drone could become the carrier MBRLS-MF2 - is unknown. Since 2016, new reports on the progress of this project have not been received.

The MBRLS-MF2 product is a small-sized lightweight digital radar operating in the Ka- and X-band. In a complete set, the station has a mass of not more than 55-60 kg. There is a possibility of delivery in a modified configuration - with one of two radio modules. A radar with an X-band unit weighs 35 kg, with a Ka-band module - approx. 23 kg Such indicators allow the station to be used on various aircraft, helicopters or UAVs of medium or heavy class.

Depending on the range used and other factors, the range of MBRLS-MF2 reaches 160 km. Provides linear resolution up to 0,25 m and the ability to detect objects moving at low speed. It has been argued that the radar computing complex has excess performance - the stock of its characteristics can be used for further modernization.

The promising small-sized radar MBRLS-MF2 from Fazotron-NIIR and the SRSiM MAI Scientific Center is of certain interest in the context of the development of manned and unmanned aircraft. It is many times smaller and lighter than other modern stations, but it is able to show the required characteristics. However, a weight of 23 to 60 kg, depending on the configuration, may limit the range of potential carriers.


Promising heavy UAV S-70 "Hunter". This technique also needs an airborne radar. Photo by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation / mil.ru

At the time of the appearance of MBRLS-MF2 in our country there were no own UAVs capable of carrying it. It was reported on the development of a project to integrate such a radar into the equipment complex of an unnamed drone, but no new data was received on this subject. To date, the media situation has changed. Several heavy UAVs have been developed, the carrying capacity of which allows the use of the MBRLS-MF2 product. However, the prospects for this radar are foggy. Perhaps the project will no longer be developed.

Prospects for Directions


The development of small-sized light radars for various aviation and ground equipment is already underway in our country, but this direction cannot yet be called developed and active. Only a few projects of this kind are known that have not yet been brought to practical use. However, the situation may change in the very near future, as a result of which promising projects will have a significant impact on the development of the UAV and RTK areas.

For obvious reasons, the most interesting from the point of view of practical application are the radars of the type being developed in the Era technopolis. However, larger products with different characteristics, such as MBRLS-MF2, can also find application: this is facilitated by the progress of recent years in the field of unmanned aircraft.

It can be assumed that in the foreseeable future, the promising direction of small-sized radars will be developed and will lead to new results suitable for practical application. This is facilitated by the availability of the necessary elemental base and technologies, the extensive industry experience in the field of radar and some interest from potential operators, expressed as a real order.
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  1. svp67 6 March 2020 18: 19 New
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    Currently, several similar products are being created in our country at once, and in the foreseeable future they can be brought to actual use.
    All this is sad. Since we already do not need such "products" today, but yesterday ... And in the light of recent events in Syria, so the day before yesterday. So, that it would be necessary to already accept them for equipment and use "for the most intended purpose"
    1. kjhg 6 March 2020 18: 40 New
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      Quote: svp67
      And in the light of recent events in Syria, the "day before yesterday"

      In Syria, such small-sized radars as Aistenok would be very useful. Yes, it is designed for counter-battery combat, but I think it would not be difficult to adapt it to detect UAVs. Then, it would be possible to cover the infantry from such UAVs with the help of MANPADS. I think that the bitter experience gained over the past 2 weeks will accelerate work in this direction.
      1. svp67 6 March 2020 19: 09 New
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        Quote: kjhg
        Then, it would be possible to cover the infantry from such UAVs with the help of MANPADS.

        Not only then, you can use the fire of the same BMP-2
        1. Nikolay3 6 March 2020 21: 25 New
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          svp67, your video shows an Israeli fake! In the second video, the Panzira-C1 anti-aircraft missiles do not have such maneuverability and cannot change the flight path 180 ° almost in place, and then missed, flying in a circle on a rope ... The Jews have already made their fake on Wikipedia to poke Russians and them Not only.
          1. svp67 6 March 2020 21: 40 New
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            Quote: Nikolay3
            svp67, your video shows an Israeli fake!

            Fake in what? That they did not destroy the "Shell"? Unfortunately destroyed, it is the Syrians, and most importantly, our recognized
            1. Nikolay3 7 March 2020 08: 27 New
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              svp677! In the second case, it was fake and the Syrians and the Russians did not recognize it ... The shell was destroyed only in one case, when it was turned off and the Syrians smoked aside. Do not "play" the Jews!
              1. svp67 7 March 2020 10: 39 New
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                Quote: Nikolay3
                Do not "play" the Jews!

                If I did this, I would talk about the THREE destroyed "Shells"
                So one “Shell-S” was destroyed on January 21, 2019, the second on May 10, 2019, the third “Shell-S”, as well as one Buk-M2, Israeli aviation destroyed on November 20, 2019.
                1. Nikolay3 7 March 2020 11: 16 New
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                  January 21, 2019 is a fake! Neither Syria nor Russia recognized this. This is the second video material you presented. Shell-C1 anti-aircraft missiles do not have such maneuverability, and fly on a rope, missing the target. Or do you not see this?
                  Israeli aviation can only fight from afar, including from someone else’s airspace, sometimes hiding behind other people's planes, and trying, as it were, to “wash off” faster ...
      2. Uncle Izya 6 March 2020 22: 23 New
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        https://www.belvpo.com/110977.html/
        that's who has
    2. dvina71 6 March 2020 20: 30 New
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      Quote: svp67
      , and the day before yesterday.

      Just the day before yesterday, air defense systems of near radius. Tor ... for example ... equipped with an optoelectronic channel ... because there isn’t enough radar to shine near the front line .. there’s not much .. The Shell is the same, Pine, as I understand it, it’s generally the only channel .. no radiation ..
      Actually, the recent history with Turkish UAVs showed that they turned out to be effective only because of the surprise and unpreparedness of the SAA, and even more so of all kinds of militias, for such a threat. It was worthwhile to tighten up the air defense systems, and the infantry began to drip the trenches ... and the entire effectiveness of the UAV slid to 0 ...
      1. svp67 6 March 2020 20: 39 New
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        Quote: dvina71
        Actually, the recent history with Turkish UAVs showed that they turned out to be effective only because of the surprise and unpreparedness of the SAA, and even more so of all kinds of militias, for such a threat. It was worthwhile to tighten up the air defense systems, and the infantry began to drip the trenches ... and the entire effectiveness of the UAV slid to 0 ...

        Well, they coped with Turkish UAVs, but they can’t cope with Israeli ones, they also have a lot of different "kamikaze" ...
        1. dvina71 6 March 2020 20: 47 New
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          Quote: svp67
          but not with Israel

          Cope .. look at the report on the Shell in Hmeimim ..
          In any case .. in a war of equal opponents, they will be beaten precisely according to Amy’s sources, so the emphasis of our Defense Ministry on optics and 1l222 is very correct.
          1. svp67 6 March 2020 20: 51 New
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            Quote: dvina71
            Cope .. look at the report on the Shell in Hmeimim ..

            And there they are at war with the Israeli ... thanks "opened our eyes to all", I then sinned against the Turks
            Quote: dvina71
            In any case .. in a war of equal opponents, they will be beaten precisely according to Amy’s sources, so the emphasis of our Defense Ministry on optics and 1l222 is very correct.

            No, everything should be in moderation, on the same “optics” now, “not to go out” in the war ... Radars are needed, all sorts of large, medium and low power, everyone will find work on the battlefield. They already found a place on the armor of tanks and self-propelled guns.
            1. dvina71 6 March 2020 20: 59 New
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              Quote: svp67
              And there they are fighting with the Israeli ...

              Yes ... imagine ... there is an indication in the report of the downing of UAVs of Israeli production ..
              You tell me what is the fundamental difference between Israeli and Turkish UAVs, in terms of air defense? Are the Turks not kosher or something?
              1. svp67 6 March 2020 21: 02 New
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                Quote: dvina71
                Yes ... imagine ... there is an indication in the report of the downing of UAVs of Israeli production ..

                In which report? There is an opportunity to take a look
                Quote: dvina71
                You tell me what is the fundamental difference between Israeli and Turkish UAVs, in terms of air defense? Are the Turks not kosher or something?

                There is, not big, but significant. In their capabilities, in particular in combat capabilities, in terms of security, Israeli more advanced
                1. dvina71 6 March 2020 21: 15 New
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                  Quote: svp67
                  Israeli security better

                  Eeeee I'm afraid to ask ... does kosher affect optics too?
                  Here is a photo of the report
                  https://red-army-1917.livejournal.com/49103.html
                  1. svp67 6 March 2020 21: 21 New
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                    Quote: dvina71
                    https://red-army-1917.livejournal.com/49103.html

                    Thank you, I was glad that we offended the dear "dad" of our "Outpost" a couple of times ...
                    Quote: dvina71
                    Eeeee I'm afraid to ask ... does kosher affect optics too?

                    But yak ... fly so that only at the last moment they notice into the "optics" ...
                    1. dvina71 6 March 2020 21: 26 New
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                      But yak ... fly so that only at the last moment they notice into the "optics" ...

                      See the list carefully .. Small-sized balloon .. in general, it’s only in optics .. 19 km destruction range ..
                      1. svp67 6 March 2020 21: 39 New
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                        Quote: dvina71
                        Small-sized balloon .. it’s generally only in optics ..

                        I wonder what he could carry there, and most importantly how did he transmit the information? He could first be discovered by radio intelligence ... Although I will not argue, they destroyed, well, well done. But you must admit, the ball is a very maneuverable target, unlike UAVs
                      2. dvina71 6 March 2020 21: 39 New
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                        Quote: svp67
                        the ball is a very maneuverable goal

                        Sharik .. this is EPR 0 in EMP ..
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      3. businessv 6 March 2020 23: 20 New
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        Quote: svp67
        Well, they coped with Turkish UAVs, but they can’t cope with Israeli ones, they also have a lot of different "kamikaze" ...

        Old video with the destruction of the shell with a shot ammunition, without a crew. We have already discussed these videos in detail here. The second installation is more like Osa, which was attacked by the Israeli low-speed drone Mini Harpy, which the destroyed air defense system could not even detect due to its low speed, it is not perceived by the air defense system as a threat.
        1. vadim dok 7 March 2020 17: 57 New
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          Lavrov asked Erdogan NOT to PUBLISH a video of the destroyed RUSSIAN air defense systems in Syria!
          1. businessv 7 March 2020 23: 03 New
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            Quote: vadim dok
            Lavrov asked Erdogan NOT to PUBLISH a video of the destroyed RUSSIAN air defense systems in Syria!

            The namesake, Lavrov cannot afford this because he understands that Erdogan can neither publish such a video, nor control those who do it! Please think what you write! hi
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    4. BREAKTHROUGH READY 6 March 2020 23: 47 New
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      no radiation
      laser range finder, radar channel or laser missile guidance.
      1. dvina71 6 March 2020 23: 58 New
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        laser range finder, radar channel or laser missile guidance.

        Only laser guidance, but the beam shines into the rocket, and not at the target.
        1. BREAKTHROUGH READY 7 March 2020 00: 15 New
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          How can he get in if he does not keep the rocket in sight?
          1. dvina71 7 March 2020 02: 48 New
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            How can he get in if he does not keep the rocket in sight?

            That is, the abbreviation for OEP for you is a simple set of letters?
            1. BREAKTHROUGH READY 7 March 2020 09: 58 New
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              Until you leave the topic, you will not explain how you plan to hit a missile with a semi-active or command guidance without irradiating the target with a radar or a laser, the optoelectronic counteraction will be an empty sound for me.
              1. dvina71 7 March 2020 11: 50 New
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                Quote: BREAKTHROUGH READY
                optoelectronic counteraction

                Optoelectronic Aiming ...
                And two ... From the description of the Pine ..
                ensuring high noise immunity due to the use for detection and tracking of the target, measuring the range and guidance of the missile highly targeted protected optoelectronic channels;

                If you are interested in detail how they did it .. contact your local FSB ..
                1. BREAKTHROUGH READY 7 March 2020 12: 29 New
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                  Optoelectronic Aiming ...
                  here go understand what you meant there
                  And two ... From the description of the Pine ..
                  From the description of the “pine” it is extremely clear that it uses: a) a laser rangefinder (emitter), b) a laser guidance channel (another emitter). All "noise immunity" is the lack of radar detection and radio control missiles.
                  contact your local FSB ..
                  Are you sure that I do not serve in this organization?
                  1. dvina71 7 March 2020 12: 39 New
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                    Quote: BREAKTHROUGH READY
                    From the description of the “pine” it is extremely clear that it uses: a) a laser rangefinder (emitter)

                    Once again for you copy-paste .. read carefully, spell ..
                    ensuring high noise immunity due to the use for detection and tracking of the target, measuring the range and guidance of the missile highly targeted protected optoelectronic channels;

                    I have nothing more to add to you .. continue to persist in ignorance .. well then ..
                    1. BREAKTHROUGH READY 7 March 2020 12: 52 New
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                      Again
                      narrowly guarded optoelectronic channels
                      - this is called a "laser."
                      continue to persist in ignorance
                      so you have no idea about the basics of laser guidance, but ignoramus - me? There really is nothing to add here.
                    2. dvina71 7 March 2020 22: 06 New
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                      Quote: BREAKTHROUGH READY
                      this is called a "laser."

                      Well, kindergarten .. the same. The laser is a monochrome bunch.
                      If you explain how thermal imaging and you channels are implemented in the laser optical guidance system?
                      And do you seriously think that ld is the only possible one?
                      For me, who received a technical education in the union, the simplest way to determine the distance to the target is obvious .. the method of proportions, for it you need to know the nominal size of the target and have an algorithm for processing 3D models, it is typical to have a nominal size of any observation angle.
                      In addition ... a person who doesn’t have a built-in laser determines the distance ... For example, a hunter can get into a flying bird from a gun .. taking into account a lot of factors .. Yes, there are so many optical birds among the birds that they attack the fish in the water ... considering the mass factors, including light refraction ..
                    3. BREAKTHROUGH READY 8 March 2020 01: 38 New
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                      If you explain how thermal imaging and you channels are implemented in the laser optical guidance system?
                      Do you know what it is and what it consists of?
                      And do you seriously think that ld is the only possible one?
                      Of the practically implemented ones, there is also a radio command, I mentioned it above. But it is precisely at Sosna that the method of guiding missiles works along the so-called “laser path”.
                      method of proportions, for it you need to know the nominal dimensions of the target and have an algorithm for processing a 3D model
                      this still worked in the 19th century, but by the time of World War I, sane people began to use stereoscopic rangefinders and triangulation, and in our time the accuracy should be many times higher.
                      For example, a hunter can get into a flying bird from a gun
                      when hunting a bird they shoot almost point-blank; not only are ballistic corrections not needed there, but even they often fire simply “along the barrel”, i.e. without aiming at sights. Modern military snipers and professional hunters always have a laser rangefinder.
              2. SovAr238A 9 March 2020 20: 05 New
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                Quote: BREAKTHROUGH READY

                Are you sure that I do not serve in this organization?


                Yes, because you are a dummy and engaged in idle talk ...

                Also write that you have already left ...


                Hollow empty
                1. BREAKTHROUGH READY 9 March 2020 21: 53 New
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                  Yes, because you are a dummy and engaged in idle talk ...

                  Also write that you have already left ...


                  Hollow empty
                  It’s good that you are not a jerk and write only constructive comments with substantive criticism and objective assessments.
  • bayard 7 March 2020 04: 16 New
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    This article is about small-sized radars capable of being placed on UAVs and other aircraft. The reduced weight of the radar systems is 35, 23, 60 kg. ... I apologize, but what about energy? Feed them from what? Batteries? Dynamos from the piston shaft of a low-power engine? Or all the same, you will have to take your generator and electrical fittings on board, as well as the fuel supply to it? Then what kind of "Orlan" (God forgive me), "Outpost" and other small things can we talk about? Here you need Altius format units or, at worst, Kronstadt.
    And to use SUCH in the ground forces to detect UAVs ...
    Maybe better "Harmony"? She does have a portable option - I put one on the hill or on the roof of the building and look around. Kilometers for 20 - 40 figurative and up to 80 km. in the mobile version.
    She has a suitable range.
    And the radar systems listed in the article must be compiled immediately with the power source in the form of suspended containers or integrally mounted units in the UAV fuselage.
    And there will be happiness to all.

    Alas, the quality of published materials and comments on the VO sank just BIG ...
    Alas. request
  • Private-K 7 March 2020 11: 05 New
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    we don’t need such "products" today, but yesterday ... And in the light of recent events in Syria, it was the day before yesterday.

    “Festina lente” (from lat. - “Hurry slowly”, “Hurry slowly”) is the Latin winged expression used in the meaning “do not hurry”.
    Modern air drones have a steady annual increase in perfection, efficiency, certainty in specifications, etc. The Russian Federation, which lagged behind at first, was able to "rush slowly", taking into account mistakes and using existing experience to create a line of practical UAVs and continues to work actively, but with understanding. trend.
    And if they were in a hurry as in the USSR, then they would quickly have taken the Tipchak UAV grave complex, stamped this der'ma in huge numbers and framed b. To overcome the established would require additional squeak and difficulties.
  • rosomaha 6 March 2020 19: 12 New
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    I don’t find a connection between the topic of the article and its content. Maybe instead of "against" you need to write "for"?
  • Galleon 6 March 2020 19: 18 New
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    “Orlan” looks sad in this context: with its monoplane layout with a propeller and radar dimensions, there is nowhere to put it. But MBRLS-MF2 not only pleased, but also called: to collect, turn on, check, work ... It looks neat, well done engineers. good
  • knn54 6 March 2020 20: 08 New
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    The Yankees create (or created) radar for UAVs weighing less than 1 kg.
    1. thinker 6 March 2020 21: 52 New
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      The length of the container with the radar is 21,6 centimeters, the width is 7,6 centimeters, and the height is 2,5 centimeters. The device weighs about 800 grams. Power consumption MESA-K is about 20 watts.

      https://www.aex.ru/news/2016/5/10/152942/
  • prodi 6 March 2020 21: 02 New
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    potentially, it is always possible to integrate radar antennas into the (lower) wing surfaces and separate the surveillance UAVs and the impact ones. Using drones against drones is not realities today
  • Ua3qhp 6 March 2020 22: 12 New
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    The length of the container with the radar is 21,6 centimeters, the width is 7,6 centimeters, and the height is 2,5 centimeters. The device weighs about 800 grams. The power consumption of the MESA-K is about 20 watts.

    We produce a bunch of different radars for fixing traffic violations, what is not a radar?
  • Stas-90 6 March 2020 22: 15 New
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    50 kilograms .. 23 kilograms .. everything is in perspective, nothing has been created in the metal. Let's start the invention of the bicycle.
    ________
    It’s time to go to Ali already, there the yellow-eyed dollars for a bag will soon start offering. laughing
    MESA-K
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  • Igor Tikhomirov 7 March 2020 13: 01 New
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    Blocks antediluvian construction a la the end of the 80s. This confuses.
    1. Ua3qhp 7 March 2020 15: 39 New
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      Here another question arises, why does a light drone need a radar?
      For hitting the ground and adjusting art fire, it is not required.
      To track the air situation? This may be required only for an unmanned fighter, but it will not be easy anymore.
      1. SovAr238A 9 March 2020 20: 13 New
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        Quote: Ua3qhp
        Here another question arises, why does a light drone need a radar?
        For hitting the ground and adjusting art fire, it is not required.
        To track the air situation? This may be required only for an unmanned fighter, but it will not be easy anymore.


        To identify camouflaged military equipment and its selection according to pre-laid signatures ???
  • Ua3qhp 9 March 2020 22: 19 New
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    To identify camouflaged military equipment and its selection according to pre-laid signatures ???

    Isn't a thermal imager enough?
    The fact is that for the selection of equipment you need a radar with a very high operating frequency, most likely a millimeter range. And the reflection of radio waves in this range is greatly distorted by masking.
    So that there will likely be little benefit from it.
    1. SovAr238A 10 March 2020 12: 42 New
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      Quote: Ua3qhp
      Quote: SovAr238A
      To identify camouflaged military equipment and its selection according to pre-laid signatures ???

      Isn't a thermal imager enough?
      The fact is that for the selection of equipment you need a radar with a very high operating frequency, most likely a millimeter range. And the reflection of radio waves in this range is greatly distorted by masking.
      So that there will likely be little benefit from it.


      We look at the characteristics of the household version of the EchoFlight Airborne DAA Radar which has already received permission to sell to all fans of unmanned aircraft.
      The range of broadband detection of ground and air targets is 3 km.
      Target tracking - present.


      1. Ua3qhp 10 March 2020 14: 51 New
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        Well, the characteristics are so-so, to see the plane at a distance of 2 km. This is as if natural. We want to increase the energy, detection range and resolution, we begin to increase the dimensions of the antenna. At the same time, the mass is growing. Again, this is true for an unmanned interceptor, for work on the ground is not very.
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