Putin - Erdogan: the Syrian army in recent days suffered serious losses

Putin - Erdogan: the Syrian army in recent days suffered serious losses

The talks between Vladimir Putin and Recep Tayyip Erdogan began on the Syrian crisis. The Turkish President arrived in Moscow on a working visit, which in itself provokes an ambiguous reaction in Turkey itself. So, opposition politicians in Ankara said that "weakness was shown" and that "it is not appropriate for the Turkish leader to bow to the Kremlin."


During a discussion of Syrian issues, the Russian president began by expressing condolences to his Turkish counterpart in connection with the death of Turkish armed forces in the Syrian province of Idlib.

Vladimir Putin called the incident a tragedy and added meaningfully:

As I said on the phone, no one, including the Syrian military, at that moment knew about the location of the Turkish soldiers.

This is actually a clear hint that Turkish soldiers strangely found themselves outside previously agreed observation posts - in places where there was a concentration of representatives of terrorist groups that the Syrian government army is fighting.

According to Putin, the conversation is very important, as as a result of recent events, including the Turkish operation, the Syrian army suffered serious losses.

In the Turkish media, the meeting in Moscow is paying increased attention. It is noted that the composition of the Turkish delegation, which landed on a government board at Vnukovo II Airport, is more than representative. In addition to Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the delegation includes the Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu, Minister of Defense Hulusi Akar, official representative of the President Ibrahim Kalyn, official representative of the ruling party of Turkey Omer Celik, head of National Intelligence Hakan Fidan. In addition, the Minister of Finance of Turkey Berat Albayrak joined the delegation. This person in the delegation further fueled the interest of the Turkish public.
One of the comments:

Why did the president take the head of the financial department with him? How is it related to the idlib crisis?

During a meeting with Putin, Erdogan said:

Today, worldwide attention is focused on the Idlib region. And our negotiations in this regard are of great importance. I believe that we will succeed.
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  1. Livonetc 5 March 2020 14: 56 New
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    The bidding process has begun.
    Turkish Finance Minister Berat Albayrak joins delegation

    "Nothing personal just business".
    1. Tatyana 5 March 2020 15: 06 New
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      One of the comments:
      Why did the president take the head of the financial department with him? How is it related to the idlib crisis?
      Because, apparently, the Turks did not come up with anything new except that “money rules the world”! (Sarcasm.)
      1. Thrall 5 March 2020 15: 21 New
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        It’s just that Sultan out of habit took a purse with him smile
        1. Runoway 5 March 2020 16: 13 New
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          Quote: Thrall
          It’s just that Sultan out of habit took a purse with him smile

          Did he bring a wallet or Kolyvan ???
          The Turks are in fact openly smashing Assad with the moral support of the United Nations and the United States, even the ammunition promised. The Russian Federation, in turn, sat on the sidelines by accidentally bombing itself (and sort of like the SAR Air Force) against the Turks at the positions of militants unknowingly (the president expressed condolences)
          What prevents the Sultan from smashing Assad further to Damascus? So he came with his “Kolyvan” to ask Putin what he was ready to share so that the Sultan would not offend Assad further
          Remember the already "profitable" projects that the pipeline, the nuclear power plant with their payback, who benefits?
          1. g1v2 5 March 2020 16: 24 New
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            That on the map is exactly the opposite. The Syrians repulsed almost everything that the Turks took. Turkish drones, after initial successes due to the unexpectedness of their use, began to be lost by tightened air defense systems. The sultan has a choice - either to get into Turkey with full flow of coffins, which the opposition will take advantage of or again agree. The fact that the head of the Ministry of Finance has arrived means that the conversation will be complex. In general, the Turks do not really want to repeat the Yemeni staging of the Saudis.
          2. St Petrov 5 March 2020 16: 30 New
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            Remember the already "profitable" projects that the pipeline, the nuclear power plant with their payback, who benefits?

            who? come on with logic.

            Take a nuclear power plant. Who benefits from the sale of electricity, fuel and services? Who went to the production order? Whose economies have received an order of $ 10 billion?

            Who, besides Russia, wanted to build nuclear power plants there?

            1. fk7777777 5 March 2020 16: 46 New
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              Logic, you say, come on, so any project only works if you pay 80% right away, and such when you pay 100%, and only then something will be in the metal. So you can pay first, then on, the dynamo car, and then just refuse, it’s violet, because the money has been paid.
              1. Dog
                Dog 5 March 2020 21: 19 New
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                Quote: fk7777777
                any project works only when paying 80% immediately

                I have been doing business for ten years, I have never received such an advance. Moreover, in connection with the recent government policy pursued by our state in the field of public procurement, given the fact that public procurement occupies an extremely significant share in certain sectors of the economy, now advance payment is already more rare than the rule. Moreover, it is often necessary to start working not only without an advance, but also without a contract - under a guarantee letter, because our large organizations have such an “effective” system for coordinating transactions over time that it sometimes takes longer to conclude a contract than the work itself, the terms of which always already burning, carry out.
                Well, this is if you want to work, and not sit with a cracker in your pocket while waiting for the perfect customer with 100% prepayment.
            2. businessv 5 March 2020 18: 28 New
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              Quote: c-Petrov
              Take a nuclear power plant. Who benefits from the sale of electricity, fuel and services? Who went to the production order? Whose economies have received an order of $ 10 billion?

              The order was received by us, but for our money - a loan of 20 billion for 30 years was allocated. We don’t go into details, but if we discuss it, then everything - I mean the Turkish stream. Turkey will earn a lot of money on it for many years on our gas, so that interest cannot be one-sided, two sides are always involved.
            3. Uncle Izya 5 March 2020 19: 23 New
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              Turkey and South Stream may block hints
              1. avebersek 5 March 2020 20: 45 New
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                Maybe cut off the reproductive organ.
                1. Uncle Izya 5 March 2020 20: 49 New
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                  You seriously, you can’t imagine what Turkey is; there’s a half million army and in Russia there is one aviation regiment and next to it is 6 US fleet comrade Anton)))
                  1. avebersek 5 March 2020 20: 54 New
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                    Forgot about tomatoes)))
                    1. Uncle Izya 5 March 2020 20: 55 New
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                      Yeah tomatoes tomatoes but tourists better not go there
                    2. Uncle Izya 5 March 2020 21: 00 New
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                      Turks are always unpredictable and ready for meanness and dirty tricks. Such is their nature.
                      1. avebersek 5 March 2020 21: 04 New
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                        I agree. East is a delicate matter(@)
                        You need to be sick to go there now. Friends we only have the Army and Navy paraphrasing one emperor of Russia.
                  2. MKPU-115 5 March 2020 22: 03 New
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                    Quote: Uncle Izya
                    You seriously, you can’t imagine what Turkey is; there’s a half million army and in Russia there is one aviation regiment and next to it is 6 US fleet comrade Anton)))

                    And "us army", nuclear weapons level, Edik knows this and is friends with his head.
        2. PalBor 5 March 2020 16: 51 New
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          They write that Erdogan arrived in the Kremlin with a red folder and three suitcases. Or, in the event of a coup, a linen change and a couple of hundred diamonds are brought with you?
          1. Malyuta 5 March 2020 19: 59 New
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            Quote: PalBor
            Erdogan arrived in the Kremlin with a red folder and three suitcases. Or, in the event of a coup, a linen change and a couple of hundred diamonds are brought with you?

            I recall how a Swiss named Didier Burkhalter arrived in Moscow on May 7, 2014 and immediately after this visit they stopped remembering the Novorossiya project, Donbass began to switch to pasture, the north wind weakened, and the legendary militia commanders began to leave this strange, random way peace.
            But what if the Turk Erdagash brought the very suitcase, in which, as you probably correctly noticed, lies a pair of interchangeable, but yesterday’s underwear?
            1. Pereira 5 March 2020 20: 57 New
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              Not all, but many remember this Swiss. Arrived once, another will come. He knows the road.
            2. PalBor 6 March 2020 18: 29 New
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              Do not write nonsense. The north wind gained power just in August-September 2014. When Donetsk defended, Gorlovka ended in Ilovaisk. Forgot?
              Tales of an accountant are just tales. If Putin had accounts in the same Swiss banks, the Americans would have cleaned them a long time ago.
              The lull with our help was in the middle of summer after the downing of a Boeing, because the West was very excited. As sometimes they say about hysterical women: She herself came up with, she believed, she herself was offended. Ours waited and continued the work of the North wind. So do not.
              1. Malyuta 6 March 2020 19: 55 New
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                Quote: PalBor
                Do not write nonsense. The north wind gained power just in August-September 2014. When Donetsk defended, Gorlovka ended in Ilovaisk. Forgot?

                I just forgot nothing, I remember the Russian Spring, New Russia and much more ...
                What now? I’ll even drop that a new enemy appeared in our soft underbelly ..
                But how do you explain that the LDNR court recognized Aleksei Borisovich Mozgovoy as a criminal ?! What do you call it?
                1. PalBor 6 March 2020 21: 06 New
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                  Let's not dust. Firstly, no LDNR court exists. Secondly, the LNR court dismissed the case in connection with the death of the accused, and, I think, had Mozgova been alive, the case would have also been dismissed. So either you are not in the know or you are deliberately escalating ... Don't. And then I’ll think that again IPSO ...
        3. Uncle Izya 5 March 2020 20: 36 New
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          Yes a gamble for Russia Syria black hole
    2. maxim947 5 March 2020 15: 07 New
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      It is difficult to even imagine a favorable outcome of this meeting for both sides at once. Without mutual concessions they won’t solve anything. So, the question is - how much is everyone ready to give up something.
      1. Darkesstcat 5 March 2020 15: 11 New
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        Who owns what on earth will end.
        1. Vitaly161 5 March 2020 15: 58 New
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          I strongly disagree, the Turks are not going to stop, maybe they will ask for a respite, and if the Guarantor gives it to him, the strategist will not
          1. fk7777777 5 March 2020 16: 48 New
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            Well, it’s written with a pitchfork on the water, the Germans also rested in front of Kursk ...
            1. Vitaly161 5 March 2020 16: 53 New
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              The SAAs are now developing an offensive against Neurab and Sarmin, and are coming on vigorously, what respite can we talk about when the initiative is in the hands of the SAAs? the women were exhausted by a 3-day attempt to take Sarakib, they abandoned the equipment (they returned the t90 CAA), crushed and crushed, no respite, Assad correctly said that right now the fate of the ATS is being decided in Idlib, the Turks will not be driven out, the ATS will not be collected back
      2. Vita vko 5 March 2020 15: 17 New
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        Quote: maxim947
        Without mutual concessions they will not solve anything

        Turkey has already drawn into the war. Ending hostilities is in principle much more difficult. A compromise solution may be joint measures to disarm all gangs in Idlib. Although this is in great contradiction with Erdogan’s aspirations to destroy President Assad, who denied him access to Syrian oil.
        1. maxim947 5 March 2020 15: 20 New
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          Although this is in great contradiction with Erdogan’s aspirations to destroy President Assad

          That's just it))) There, now all of Turkey is waiting for him to "build up" everyone in Moscow, he will return and Assad will unscrew his head. Here's the move now and decide how to save face. In the figurative sense))
          1. Zoldat_A 5 March 2020 15: 28 New
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            Quote: maxim947
            Here's the move now and decide how to save face. In the figurative sense))

            Judging by his statements, the Erdogan opposition - and not in the figurative, but in the literal sense, too.
            Of course, he sweeps them away, like a mutt bear - it was already. But bite notably.
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          3. Aag
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            It seems like willow straight ...
      3. gohomeyanki 5 March 2020 15: 23 New
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        Well, as an option, they will give a piece of Idlib to Turkey, they will announce another truce, if Turkey does not observe it again, then ... the war will begin again.
        It’s quite an option, it was like that with Aleppo too, a string of cease-fires, as a result, the opposition lost Aleppo.

        They will not decide anything, also an option, but in my opinion such an option is generally not in favor of Turkey.
        1. Vitaly161 5 March 2020 16: 00 New
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          to give a piece of Syria is not an acceptable option, so that Assad would have a dialogue with the Kurds, there should be no Turks in the territory of the SAR !!!
          1. parkello 5 March 2020 17: 44 New
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            they should not exist at all, anywhere .. neither in Syria nor in general on Earth. but still, to hell with them, they still live.
        2. Aleksandr21 5 March 2020 16: 25 New
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          Quote: gohomeyanki
          Well, as an option, they will give a piece of Idlib to Turkey, they will announce another truce if Turkey does not observe again


          Why should I give the territory of Syria - Turkey? We remind you that we adhere to the territorial integrity of Syria, and launched an operation in Idlib with the goal of returning the occupied territory, so this is not an option.
          1. Paul Siebert 5 March 2020 17: 00 New
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            Quote: Aleksandr21
            Quote: gohomeyanki
            Well, as an option, they will give a piece of Idlib to Turkey, they will announce another truce if Turkey does not observe again


            Why should I give the territory of Syria - Turkey? We remind you that we adhere to the territorial integrity of Syria, and launched an operation in Idlib with the goal of returning the occupied territory, so this is not an option.

            Nobody will give anything to Erdogan. He did not raise the Turkish flag over Damascus.
            In my opinion, negotiations should be based on a temporary restriction on the presence of Turkish troops in Idlib.
            Give Edik a time period for which he must fulfill the Sochi agreements ...
            And then in Sochi somehow forgot about the timing. Stay in Idlib as much as you want ...
            So for this period, even if it disarms the barmaley, it demilitarizes the zone, removes minefields.
            Under our Russian control.
            And then - “nah house” and “hello, peaceful life!”
            In this situation, you can buy tomatoes ... wink
            1. Aleksandr21 5 March 2020 17: 14 New
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              Quote: Paul Siebert
              ... In my opinion, negotiations should be based on a temporary restriction on the presence of Turkish troops in Idlib.
              Give Edik a time period for which he must fulfill the Sochi agreements ...
              And then in Sochi somehow forgot about the timing. Stay in Idlib as much as you want ...


              We have different tasks with Turkey. Erdogan’s goal is to knock out the “Assad regime” from Idlib, he doesn’t remember any terrorists and Sochi agreements, Edik is quite consistent in his actions, after the beginning of the Syrian cleansing of Idlib, he helped terrorists both with artillery and UAV air, and with people and equipment in In general, by all means, if only they would not give up the territory of Syria, and said that if Syrian troops did not leave Idlib by the end of February, he would begin a military operation, but took a break for negotiations with the GDP, i.e. Erdogan is very consistent in his actions. And if Turkey temporarily stays in Idlib, then what will they do? Disarm the militants and just leave :)? It’s vryatli, with such an outcome of the event, the conflict only freezes until a new Syrian attack on the positions of militants in Idlib, and again all over again. Moreover, if there is such a respite, it will benefit all parties, the same militants will restore losses and strengthen their positions, Turkey will try, and the Turks themselves will already be thoroughly prepared for war with Syria, therefore, an agreement on even temporary stay of the Turks in Idlib what good will not lead.
          2. gohomeyanki 5 March 2020 17: 38 New
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            I mean under control as in Sochi.

            at this stage, the Syrian army will not cope with the Turkish, gradually getting stuck there, and having suffered losses, they may themselves clean or tame the barmaley.
            1. Vitaly161 5 March 2020 17: 49 New
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              and the Turkish army has not yet been at war, advisers, technical assistance, support for the broads by art and the modest actions of the Turkish MTR, yes, but the Turkish army’s military operation was not in idlib
              1. gohomeyanki 5 March 2020 19: 05 New
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                She bombed the country, shelled the territory, introduced troops, set up posts, takes part in military formations and do not fight? !!! it’s good to fill in fairy tales) ...... well, in general, the Soviet Union, making an intervention, it also did not fight in Afghanistan, but everyone calls it a war.
                AT THIS, in Afghanistan, they helped a legitimate government, but here the goal of seizing territory is stupid.

                Turkey made a military intervention without declaring war, in order to seize the territory.

                At which the Syrians are trying not to attack observation posts, although ... according to the latest data that they come, today a response to one observation flew in, the Turkish wounded helicopters were evacuated killed.
              2. gohomeyanki 5 March 2020 19: 11 New
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                about the military operation is also not true.
                she officially is: "Spring Shield"
                1. Vitaly161 5 March 2020 19: 25 New
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                  that is, Turkish divisions go to Damascus? drones work, yes, but no more, don’t dust and do not get nervous, almost nothing is visible from our sofas
                  1. gohomeyanki 5 March 2020 20: 28 New
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                    Vitaliy161 you just claimed that there is no intervention, and even no operation ....
                    those. I want to say that you wrote a misinformation, or do not own information from the WORD AT ALL. The local news at least look.

                    There are drones and artillery and troops, and posts are established and the territory of Syria is occupied, the Turkish Air Force is trying to bring down Syrian aircraft.
                    Like it or not, Turkish troops invaded Syrian territory, and shell Syrian troops, not hiding much, and they even officially publish the consequences of the attacks.

                    You are trying to hide this fact, but a fact is a fact.
                    1. Vitaly161 6 March 2020 13: 19 New
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                      aviation, artillery and drones, this is not the whole army, call a spade a spade, there was no large-scale ground operation of the Turkish army, and so far there will not be, that I do not argue the Turks invaders, I repeat, call a spade a spade
                      1. gohomeyanki 7 March 2020 03: 53 New
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                        Turkey has applied all its opportunities. All kinds of troops, and this is clearly a war. And 100% military operation, and it has a name, do not bother.

                        You can come up with any excuses you want, the scales are not the same, but in my opinion it’s stupid to deny that there is no military operation, because Turkey itself calls it an operation, and the name even came up with an epic: "Spring Shield"

                        It’s also stupid not to call war, because by definition:
                        War - a conflict between political entities - states, tribes, political groups and so on - that occurs on the basis of various claims, in the form of armed confrontation, military (combat) actions between their armed forces.

                        ps I understand you have a low level of education.
                        call a spade a spade, if you don’t know one or another name, it seems to you that the names are not the right ones, find out the definitions of words.
                      2. svp67 7 March 2020 04: 16 New
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                        Quote: gohomeyanki
                        Turkey has applied all its opportunities. All kinds of troops, and this is clearly a war.

                        Alas, no. Not everything is still used by Turkey. Their air forces were not used to the full extent ... they were still afraid of image losses, in the event of the loss of aircraft and helicopters, and especially pilots, and their fleet generally remained on the sidelines ...
                      3. gohomeyanki 10 March 2020 03: 41 New
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                        the fleet couldn’t shoot, all the same .. it’s not the United States, Turkey doesn’t have tomahawks, and the Caliber either. Meant, all which could be used.

                        But in principle, if we really engage in crocheting, then the fleet brought a piece of the world, because obviously it’s intelligence. the data carried, how many ships of Russia arrived at the port of Latakia, what cargoes.
                        Plus, the UN embargo against Syria, so that the fleet could more carefully examine civilian cargo.

                        so that everything they had was used to the maximum.)
                      4. gohomeyanki 10 March 2020 03: 47 New
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                        svp67 (Sergey) Perhaps they were afraid, but to a lesser extent, politicians usually sit warm, rather calculated the risks, and decided to take the less expensive path, at least at this stage.
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                        I repeat the fleet was doing its job, and intelligence was also blocked, there was nothing and nothing to shoot the Turkish fleet with.
                        The Air Force, I repeat, they used as much as they could, and at full capacity, which they could, not potential somewhere out there on paper, but their real capabilities.

                        With the same confidence, you can argue that the Wehrmacht did not use everything And not all of its capabilities, it may be so, but they lost and the Soviets won.

                        Well, German historians, they generally write like this, that they would have broken the Soviets and had gunpowder, and German generals are better, and people, but either General Moroz failed them, then the second front, or even the Führer "ruined everything."
                    2. Vitaly161 7 March 2020 19: 15 New
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                      I just know, unlike you, the question of filling up how many Turkish tanks and infantry units took part in the attacks on Sarakib during the entire operation of the Turks?
                    3. gohomeyanki 10 March 2020 03: 43 New
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                      Vitaliy161 (Vitaliy) I realized your level of knowledge, I’m not interested in furthering your educational program.
    3. gohomeyanki 5 March 2020 17: 42 New
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      and there is a moment that the troops are tired, attacking, and we need a respite, and Syria, in general, does not have a reserve.

      it’s all the same, Putin and Erdogan will decide.
  2. fk7777777 5 March 2020 16: 51 New
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    As an option, divide Turkey between all interested parties, and the sultan can become an honorary citizen of Mukhasaransk in Taimyr. What is not an option?
  • x.andvlad 5 March 2020 15: 29 New
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    Yes, even though we are legally in Syria, we are not in a position that would be thoughtless to “shove with a drill”. Turks, if desired, can create problems for Russia in Syria. But they must understand that they themselves will suffer losses from retaliatory actions.
    Therefore, the conversation on our part is as balanced and diplomatic as possible.
  • Chaldon48 5 March 2020 15: 37 New
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    Turkey will have to give in if they do not want to lose the benefits of the Turkish Stream.
    1. Vitaly161 5 March 2020 16: 01 New
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      the Turkish stream is more beneficial to the Turks, they need it, for us it is only an opportunity to sell, no more
    2. New Year day 5 March 2020 17: 52 New
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      Quote: Chaldon48
      if you don’t want to lose the benefits of Turkish Stream

      What kind? The flow was built for our money, our gas runs along it and Gazprom receives money for it. And this despite the fact that over the past year, Turkey reduced the purchase of pipe gas from Russia by 14%.
  • paul3390 5 March 2020 15: 42 New
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    And what is there to concede? Like it not - Idlib is Syria. And Assad is its legitimate president. The Turks there are invaders whom no one has called. Where is the subject for bargaining?
    1. fk7777777 5 March 2020 16: 53 New
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      The life of the sultan ...
  • SSR
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    Quote: maxim947
    It is difficult to even imagine a favorable outcome of this meeting for both sides at once. Without mutual concessions they won’t solve anything. So, the question is - how much is everyone ready to give up something.

    Who knows who knows.
    It’s like with a trick, everyone can look at a fight like Russia, Syria and Turkey, and Europe and the USA can be the target. At least through the prism of the Europeans starting a more independent policy without regard to the USA. The USA with the same Iran broke many Europeans by terminating the agreement.
  • g1v2 5 March 2020 16: 30 New
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    Easy. They will establish a ceasefire line on the actually occupied front line. Further, they will agree to patrol something together. After which the sultan will announce that he defended the poor jihadists of Idlib, and Russia, together with Syria, will take up Zaefrati. In a few months, the Syrians and I will announce that the Turks have not fulfilled their obligations, but they will give it “purely out of respect” for a few more months. Next will be another operation. For example, taking the m4 highway. Then again a truce, and so on until the complete elimination of the Idlib adder. As long as it exists, the war will definitely not end. request
    1. Vitaly161 5 March 2020 17: 51 New
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      the main enemy of the Kurds of the Turks, while they in Idlib you can not even dream of agreeing with the first
  • Evgeny Zhukov_2 5 March 2020 18: 53 New
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    Putin has a better map. Why give in? He will wait, time is playing for him ...
  • 210ox 5 March 2020 15: 20 New
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    Yes, this also applies to our side ..
  • Sarmat Sanych 5 March 2020 15: 26 New
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    Unique photo - Erdogan accepts Putin's surrender. Nuka Taibka, say "Glory to Ukraine"laughing
    1. x.andvlad 5 March 2020 15: 33 New
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      Cool humor! laughing good
    2. sbuskets 5 March 2020 15: 38 New
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      What about the shot where Putin lowers his head and gaze to the floor at the words that they did not know that there were Turkish soldiers?
      1. Sarmat Sanych 5 March 2020 15: 40 New
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        sbuskets, but what's the point? The whole world understands perfectly WHO WHO is at this meetinggood
        1. sbuskets 5 March 2020 15: 41 New
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          cool dislike, patriotism of the brain, not otherwise.
          1. Sarmat Sanych 5 March 2020 16: 08 New
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            Whiners and laughter, tomorrow you have Recepka "Putin's hirelings" will be, you betlaughing? In the liberal and crested media, Erdogan is now in a state of quantum superposition: he is at the same time a brother-brave-fighter-with-Russian-aggression-for-saint-uraina, and a little chain-loader-Kremlin-litter-sold-for-rublessmile
        2. sbuskets 5 March 2020 15: 43 New
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          the point is that from the very first seconds Putin showed with all his uncertain appearance that he was making concessions. I don’t see what to be proud of yet, they didn’t answer the Jews, they didn’t answer the Turks, they didn’t answer the United States, they didn’t answer Europe, they didn’t answer anyone. where is the reason for pride?
          1. Sarmat Sanych 5 March 2020 16: 03 New
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            sbuskets, while whining and posing as Russians hhhly on the Internet yell "to the answer!" - RUSSIAN SILENTS DO THE BUSINESS. And in the end, our VKS and MTR have already ground Turkish soldiers for more than two hundred this month alone (normal exchange for 1 pilot?), The mattresses were kicked out of six bases in the north of the SAR giving them a kick in the ass, Assad controls already 80% of Syria and over the last For three weeks he squeezed out half of Idlib from Rejepka, and Srail, despite fetching racquets because of Lebanon, but Assad was returned to the south of Syria and the Iranians are still free to do their job in the Republic. Russia acts like a BOA and ultimately suppresses any rival on this planet, one could understand from the centuries-old history of Russian military victories. Here take a look at what the world media wrote when we took from Syria the Americans half-weed of Syria, some headlines are:
            1. "Business Insider". Putin for free received in the Middle East everything he dreamed about - https://inosmi.ru/military/20191016/246040146.html
            2. "SBS-News." Russia hastily fills the vacuum left by the USA in Syria - https://russian.rt.com/inotv/2019-10-16/CBS-News-Rossiya-speshno-zapolnyaet
            3. SPIEGEL. Putin's best birthday present - https://inosmi.ru/politic/20191015/246036944.html
            4. The Times America's stunning defeat- https://russian.rt.com/inotv/2019-10-16/Oshelomitelnoe-porazhenie--Times-sravnila
            5. "Figaro." Having made a deal with the Turkish devil, the West itself drove itself into a trap - https://russian.rt.com/inotv/2019-10-16/Le-Figaro-zaklyuchiv-sdelku-s
            6. "Fetch". Trump and Erdogan want to wake up the dying demons of xenophobia and racism in Europe - https://russian.rt.com/inotv/2019-10-15/Wyborcza-Tramp-s-Erdoganom-hotyat
            7. The Independent. Something is coming - https://russian.rt.com/inotv/2019-10-15/CHto-to-gryadyot-Independent-ob-istinnoj
            8. The Washington Post. Trump's actions in Ukraine and Syria help Russia - https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-moves-in-ukraine-and-syria-have-a-common-denominator-both-help-russia/2019/ 10/15 / 1cf5a904-ef51-11e9-89eb-ec56cd414732_story.html
            9. "SNN". Putin's winning circle in the Middle East - https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/15/middleeast/putin-syria-russia-middle-east-intl/index.html
            10. "New York Tamys." In Syria, Russia is pleased to fill the American void - https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/15/world/middleeast/kurds-syria-turkey.html
            11. "De Welt." Suddenly, Russians appear at American military bases - https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article201914358/Syrien-Auf-einmal-stehen-Russen-in-der-US-Militaerbasis.html
            12. The Guardian. The Russian shadow falls on Syria when the Kurds open the door for Assad - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/14/russian-shadow-falls-over-syria-as-kurds-open-door-for -assad
            13. "Forein Polisi". The secret origins of US-Kurdish relations explain today's catastrophe - https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/10/14/us-kurdish-relationship-history-syria-turkey-betrayal-kissinger/
            14. The Financial Times. Assad regime and Russia are the main winners in the US-Turkish chaos - https://www.ft.com/content/1736a390-ee90-11e9-ad1e-4367d8281195

            And so on.
            But here's how they look at Russia in the West in comparison with you whiners:
            https://youtu.be/0fo4hDbSagQ
            Nobody has counted Putin yet, but he counted any world leader 10 steps forward.
            1. sbuskets 5 March 2020 16: 28 New
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              how stupid and zombie you are, you need to be treated.
              1. Sarmat Sanych 5 March 2020 16: 31 New
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                sbuskets, so bombing?)) Napkin?
                1. sbuskets 5 March 2020 16: 42 New
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                  so it’s being bombed at you, I don’t even put down sheets of stupid texts, even dislays (this is a separate mental illness). you need to be very stupid and zombied to see Ukrainians, agents of the State Department and traitors everywhere. You also need to be stupid so that Putin’s concessions, where from the first seconds he lowered his head in front of Erdogan (learn body language), call a breakthrough in the situation and see this as an occasion for pride.
                  1. Sarmat Sanych 5 March 2020 23: 31 New
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                    sbuskets, saucepan, well, of course Vladimir Vladimirovich is not only the most influential politician of the planet according to the estimates of the leading world rating agencies, but also the most generousgood. After all, his VKS a few days ago was officially sent to the guru 33 and unofficially about 100 Turkish military, naturally Putin as a magnanimous man showed respect to the dead Turkish jackalssmile. And then Rejepka went to all our conditions, Assad squeezed 60% of Idlib from him, which they confirmed signed. And after a couple of months, the Syrian army will be on the border with Turechchina and you yourself understand this, that's why you have a bombaleil))
                    1. sbuskets 6 March 2020 08: 21 New
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                      You are truly a casserole. But Putin was frightened because his first words were that the Syrian troops were dying quickly and much, so he suggested that Erdogan come to an agreement. Putin is tied there, because having shot down one plane, Erdogan will simply block the straits and launch a full-fledged offensive with aviation, and then dust will remain from the Syrian positions, as well as from our base. And in general, with such allies and enemies it is not necessary, Assad tolerates Putin only from hopelessness, and Putin, because of his cowardice, first promises support from the army, and then immediately gives back when Assad has already sent fighters into battle, because of which they die as martyrs under the attacks of drones.
                    2. sbuskets 6 March 2020 08: 23 New
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                      You complete go * t do not write to me. Television has washed you well, Ukrainians seem to be everywhere. Unlike you, I am a true patriot and I live in Russia and I don’t think that the Turkish stream is an achievement, it’s like that for you, and for me it’s 20 billion stolen from people who will bring only losses.
                    3. Sarmat Sanych 7 March 2020 17: 24 New
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                      Notably blazinglaughing? Yes, you are not the first time to crap one's pants, do not worry. You have nothing to do with Russia and the partiots of our Fatherland and its great past, present and future victories.
                      Syrian endgame and position of the Turkish king
                      Using the terminology of chess, Russia and Turkey played the middle game in Syria, characterized by the complex construction of a system of mutual blocking and positional opposition. Each side has increased resources and prepared for a new phase of attacks and exchanges. The potential position was in Russia's favor, as it gradually managed to reduce the enemy’s bridgehead in Idlib by 3-3 times over 4 years.
                      A qualitative turning point was brewing in the campaign, and Turkey, unable to bear it, went to aggravation. Erdogan began to improvise, showing his weakness, and showed how to act against the "Turkish king". Turkey’s frontal attacks in the center made it possible to realize Russia's material superiority, rocked the stability of the Turkish forces and created a threat to a series of checkers leading to Erdogan’s stupid checkmate.
                      The “Turkish king” himself found himself in a situation where his allies passed into the status of observers of the conflict and maliciously let him know that in addition to air kisses and telegrams with the text “mentally with you”, he would receive nothing more from them. Erdogan’s Ukrainian numbers, such as the desire to draw the West into his feud with Russia, will not work. The West will never drag chestnuts out of the fire for anyone, and counting on the success of such a strategy is silly from the very beginning.
                      To punish Erdogan for rudeness on the topic of refugees and blackmail on the Russian S-400, as well as for Turkish Stream, is the blue dream of the West. Turkey is not at all an ally of the West for NATO, but a vassal anti-Russian resource, and should always remain as such. Attempts to think that the West will accept Turkey as part of itself, and with its own hands will help Erdogan to build Ottoman Empire 2.0, after which he will be completely numb, should be initially marked as utopia. That the West made Erdogan understand with all my heart.
                      As a result, Erdogan was between two started and incomplete parties: with Russia and with the West. What seemed to him a serious resource of power shoulder, in fact turned out to be a war on two fronts, and even with the transfer to the country. Moreover, in conditions when each front in itself surpasses the Turkish one in terms of power potential.
                      Erdogan is now looking for a way to save face if it is impossible to draw a game in Syria. Step by step, Putin consistently deprived Erdogan of the fields for maneuver: he dragged the S-400 deal into Turkish Stream (by the way, Turkey has already paid $ 1,5 billion out of 2,5 for Triumphs), involving it in the volume vital for Turkey mutual trade (at the same time for Russia it makes up only 3,5% of the total annual trade turnover of the Russian Federation of $ 700 billion). By actively developing relations with Ankara, the United States provoked the overthrow of Erdogan, and then saved him, making him dependent and sowing an abyss of mistrust between Ankara and Washington. After that, he grind all the Turkish figures in the Syrian middlegame. Now the game has moved to the endgame.

                      In Russia, in hardware jargon, this is called "boxing." The Byzantine tradition of Russia again turned out to be an undeveloped school for Turkey. Erdogan, realizing that he was facing an abyss, requested a timeout and hastily crawled away from the edge. Putin handed over Erdogan by not changing his position for the entire campaign, and the “Turkish king”, having sorted out and discarded all the options one by one, was locked into a corner.
                      The completion was negotiation in Moscow. Putin simply did not agree to Merkel and Macron, and then, rejecting Istanbul, forced Erdogan to fly to Moscow and negotiate on a foreign field. At the same time, Sarakib was recaptured in Syria, a city where the two strategic roads M4 and M5 converge, with M5 completely under Assad’s control and M4 partially, but it was decided to create a security zone 6 km to each side of the road and patrol jointly with Turkey .
                      In order to save the face of Erdogan locked in a corner, the SAA left the city of Afes, not responding to the attack by volleys and the Russian air force, but took Al-Sheikh Akil. Putin did not force an attack on all key positions of Erdogan in Syria amid ongoing negotiations, trying not to drive him into a corner completely. Creating the conditions for the overthrow of the weakened Erdogan is not part of Putin's plans.
                      Thus, Putin managed to preserve all the achievements in Turkey, while it is significantly advantageous to agree again with Erdogan in the face of the whole world. The acquisitions of Russia are quite large. The conditions have been created for the formation of an anti-Turkish coalition in the Arab world. Using Turkish interest, the involvement of other states in the Syrian campaign was prevented. Deepened distrust between Turkey and the collective West.
                      The expansion of the bridgehead of pro-Russian forces in Syria and the reduction of the bridgehead of the pro-Turkish were recorded. At the same time, Erdogan remained a managed “partner”, because he did not want to break the ties he needed with Russia, and even more fell into a state of need to maintain these ties.
                      Putin told Erdogan that he would be awaited if the war in Idlib continued. He made it clear that Russia is not interested in this, but if necessary, arrange for him there an Illovaysky boiler with a Syrian seasoning and Vietnamese syndrome. Turkey’s retaliatory moves will weaken it more than Russia. The weakening of Turkey will lead to the strengthening of countries that are not close to Russia and Turkey. This is an effect that exceeds the damage from failure to achieve Ankara’s goals in Idlib, which makes senseless escalation. Russia will also lose, but Turkey will lose even more.
                      Erdogan himself knew all these calculations when he flew to Moscow. Six hours in the negotiations took “bargaining”, but on the whole, everyone understood and decided everything correctly. The world has drawn its conclusions.
                      Turkey spent resources in vain, showing the limits of expansion opportunities. At the same time, Erdogan is weakened internally and even more isolated externally. His conflict with all key forces deepened, and this means that now he has become the object of strengthening their manipulations, his manipulative arsenal is seriously weakened.
                      Turkey will not become closer to either the West, or Russia, or the Arab and Persian world. This minimizes the number of strategies available to Erdogan. His actions are now easier to predict and calculate. And that means provoking in the right direction for yourself.
                      The endgame, which began in the Syrian party, for the "Turkish king" proceeds in an unfavorable position and the loss of many pieces on the board. Nowhere to go, nothing to hide behind. Attacking is even more difficult. Any attack leads to a forced stolen mat. The only way out is to postpone playing out and take a timeout. Which he was granted in Moscow with all generosity.
                      Undoubtedly, this world is temporary, and behind its screen, Turkey and the West will continue to sharpen their swords and prepare for a new offensive. The party in Syria has not been played, namely, postponed. Erdogan has no choice but to suddenly run to the board after a few months and move a couple of pieces on it. He will just wait for the right moment.
                      Another thing is that both Russia and the West will not wait, but will continue to consider their options and prepare ways to neutralize opponents. However, in general, the balance of power is characterized by an improvement in the Russian position and a deterioration in the Turkish position. There was an operational pause in the campaign, when everyone took a break and were preparing for a new battle.
                      A new military operation at the Moscow meeting with Erdogan has already been announced by Vladimir Putin in the fall. The reasons are the increasing terrorist attacks on the Russian military base Khmeimim. According to experts, Russia will deliver about 50 military aircraft and several air defense systems to Syria. Most likely, artillery forces will be increased, the number of tactical missile systems Iskander-M and Tochka-U will increase, and ships with Caliber missiles will come from the sea.
                      All this will return the game postponed in Idlib to a state of playing out. But time is now an ally of Russia and an adversary of Turkey. By the fall, much of the world will change, and playing out the Syrian deferred endgame will take place in a different situation, although this will not make it less stressful and dangerous.
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                      By the way, skakuas sbuskets, the Turkish stream does not cost $ 20 and $ 7 billion and based on a 60% reduction in the transit via the route (for which we paid $ 3 billion annually), the Turkish Stream will beat off after 5 years, and then will bring in billions of dollars annually. In addition, this project allowed us to 100% gasify the surrounding areas of southern Russia and increase the production of the domestic pipe industry, the production of compressors, power equipment, gave new jobs to tens of thousands of Russians, etc. Suffer.
                  2. sbuskets 6 March 2020 08: 26 New
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                    I read your crazy comments. I was not mistaken. Your whole purpose of life is to sit on a used sofa with a bottle in your hand and type comments here for days. Degradation to the utmost.
          2. New Year day 5 March 2020 17: 57 New
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            Quote: Sarmat Sanych
            And so on.

            The list is impressive, no words. Here are just a hitch: if the enemy praises, what's the point?
        3. Evgeny Zhukov_2 5 March 2020 18: 57 New
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          We didn’t surrender Crimea. We didn’t surrender Abkhazia and Ossetia .. We support Serbia from Kosovo. We help the LPR and the DNI. We ignore the ultimatums of the USA. Who handed over ... That you handed over. Snickers, get it together.
  • fk7777777 5 March 2020 16: 54 New
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    No, he capitulates unconditionally.
  • Irokez 5 March 2020 22: 18 New
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    Mimicry says a lot.
  • Svarog 5 March 2020 14: 57 New
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    As I said on the phone, no one, including the Syrian military, at that moment knew about the location of the Turkish soldiers.

    A subtle hint of thick circumstances .. And one could still ask ... what exactly did the Turkish military do among the terrorists?
    1. seti 5 March 2020 15: 05 New
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      And one could still ask ... what exactly did the Turkish military do among the terrorists?


      The answer is already known in advance.
    2. Zoldat_A 5 March 2020 15: 29 New
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      And one could still ask ... what exactly did the Turkish military do among the terrorists?

      Under cover? laughing Small group ...
    3. x.andvlad 5 March 2020 15: 40 New
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      And one could still ask ... what exactly did the Turkish military do among the terrorists?

      I'm sorry, what? Coordinated their actions. Apparently, from their point of view there are not terrorists there, but rebels or moderate opposition. That is the whole difference.
  • Vend 5 March 2020 14: 57 New
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    There is little to believe, it is also necessary to remove the Turkish military from Syria. In Syria, only one country is officially located at the invitation of the Syrian president - Russia. Others are aggressors pursuing their goals.
    1. Kushka 5 March 2020 15: 51 New
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      When it comes to what is happening at one’s own border, nobody “consults” anyone
      will not be. It would never have crossed our minds what to do in the Crimea, in the Rostov region
      and in Ossetia at well-known events in Georgia and Ukraine. Turkey at its border as
      decides and will do so. But how deeply Russia needs to get involved in a war
      in Syria, you still need to think well. There are forces that would not mind
      got involved and for a long time.
      1. Vend 5 March 2020 16: 00 New
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        Quote: Kushka
        When it comes to what is happening at one’s own border, nobody “consults” anyone
        will not be. It would never have crossed our minds what to do in the Crimea, in the Rostov region
        and in Ossetia at well-known events in Georgia and Ukraine. Turkey at its border as
        decides and will do so. But how deeply Russia needs to get involved in a war
        in Syria, you still need to think well. There are forces that would not mind
        got involved and for a long time.

        The Turkish military are in Syria without the permission of the Syrian leadership. This is aggression. If you so wanted to resolve the conflict at your border, no one forbade Erdogan to obtain an official permission from Assad. Turkey pursues its goals, it does not matter what will happen to Syria.
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        Easy, think, BUT only on YOUR side of the border! Otherwise, you are just an aggressor!
  • Thrifty 5 March 2020 15: 00 New
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    And the same Erdogad to the Syrian people, I am silent about Putin, expressed condolences? There are not only hundreds of dead military defending their land! Turks and civilians massively bomb and fire! In order to preserve the remnants of people's confidence in themselves, Putin needs to speak harshly with the Turks, making it clear that we will not trade Syria!
    1. codetalker 5 March 2020 15: 47 New
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      The nouns, speaking on behalf of the whole nation, are already fed up ...
    2. Oquzyurd 5 March 2020 16: 13 New
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      Fans of Ararat are not profitable when they agree.
      1. Livonetc 5 March 2020 16: 31 New
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        Jeyhun, Hello!
        Please explain who are the "fans of Ararat"?
        hi
        1. Oquzyurd 5 March 2020 17: 00 New
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          Those who consider Ararat his yes
          1. Livonetc 5 March 2020 17: 14 New
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            Well... wink it can be both Turks and Armenians.
            Who are you specifically about? smile
            In fact, neither the Armenians nor even the Turks have much influence on world politics.
            But for fans of Mount Zion, such arrangements are really disadvantageous.
            Here they have motives and capabilities to attack attempts at peace agreements between Russia, Turkey and Syria, and, of course, Iran.
            hi
            1. Oquzyurd 5 March 2020 17: 19 New
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              The Turks call these mountains "Agra" (in translation, "Pain"), the Armenians call these mountains "Ararat" (Biblical name). hi Each country and ethnos influences world politics, some more, some less.
  • cniza 5 March 2020 15: 00 New
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    Why did the president take the head of the financial department with him? How is it related to the idlib crisis?


    What would you know about financial losses if Moscow, for example, begins to expel Turkish business from Russia ...
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      Why did the president take the head of the financial department with him? How is it related to the idlib crisis?


      What would you know about financial losses if Moscow, for example, begins to expel Turkish business from Russia ...

      The minister arrived with a large calculator. laughing
      Some kind of oriental bazaar ...
      1. cniza 5 March 2020 15: 35 New
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        Without trade, they cannot live and do not respect those who are not bargaining ... therefore their president is like that.
  • Fishery 5 March 2020 15: 01 New
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    Now everyone will declare himself a winner, all the rules)
    1. Thrifty 5 March 2020 15: 03 New
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      Tonya-aga, except for the civilian population of Syria! negative
      1. Fishery 5 March 2020 15: 07 New
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        they are out of luck .....
  • iouris 5 March 2020 15: 03 New
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    What's the news? Erdogan himself claimed even more severe losses inflicted by the Turkish army of the Syrian army. It turns out that Putin is arguing with Erdogan, convincing him that in fact the losses of the Syrians are lower than Erdogan believes.
    1. gohomeyanki 5 March 2020 15: 30 New
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      and where is the dispute, he just played up to Erdogan, well, or told the truth, the Syrian army suffered serious losses = Putin said.
      1. iouris 5 March 2020 20: 29 New
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        Quote: gohomeyanki
        told the truth

        Syrian losses are higher than Erdogan believes?
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          he did not specify whose data is accurate, he simply said that "the Syrians suffered serious losses."
        2. gohomeyanki 5 March 2020 20: 51 New
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          Yes, and Putin-Erdogan negotiations have been completed, agreements have been signed.
          we’ll find out exactly what they’ve agreed to later, and obviously not in all the details.

          but this means that the Russia-Turkey war, as expected by me, is canceled.
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            Quote: gohomeyanki
            but this means that the Russia-Turkey war, as expected by me, is canceled.

            Delayed.
            Until the fall.
            1. gohomeyanki 6 March 2020 02: 53 New
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              the situation there is more flexible, if Erdogan will no longer be naughty, but will begin to fulfill then they will be taxied out to the world. if there are shelling, then at the readiness of the Syrian army.

              I think now Erdogan will clean up the discontented in Turkey, and clean up the militants in Syria who will not obey him, in short, uncontrolled. nuuu, and the EU will still launch refugees, well, until they give him money. )
  • Thrifty 5 March 2020 15: 07 New
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    In fact, it was necessary to transfer this talking room for a month, at least, and during this time to help Syria as much as possible to clear the land from Turkish-terrorist formations. And then negotiations for Erdogad would be essentially useless!
    1. Darkesstcat 5 March 2020 15: 13 New
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      To clean it out, it is necessary to oust the Turks from there relatively peacefully, but this is not real.
    2. gohomeyanki 5 March 2020 15: 28 New
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      a truce (with Aleppo, a dozen truces, on the basis of surrender) .... quite a good option, but here you need to KNOW the LAYOUT on the ground (which no one on the site knows for sure) and take a calculator and take it.

      It's just that it’s possible to free the areas freed from mines, finish off the sleeping cells, regroup, Syria is also beneficial.
      In Turkey, military fervor will take place, or .... dissatisfaction that military fervor has decreased, and cleansing will begin, already in the Turkish parliament, and the army ...
      1. Vitaly161 5 March 2020 16: 08 New
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        SAA is not a profitable respite, they storm the positions of the broads (did you see the news in the tape ??), we regularly supply equipment to them, the crews and crews train, the Turks will bump into negotiations, and to hell with them, push the barmalei while CAA has the initiative
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          yes ... but if earlier they took several settlements and occupied a large piece of the South, now they have slowed down, or are waiting for negotiations, or a tactical respite, but so far.
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            and the resistance is not weak, plus the work of UAVs and Turkish artillery;
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              perhaps, but an advantage on earth is important ... and in this case, the "opposition lost" a lot, and if not for Turkey. What kind of sacrifice are the Turks ready for Idlib’s question, because you need to close holes in the defense with your own troops.

              You do not take into account that Russia also does not infirmly apply barmaley, so that the Syrians are on an equal footing.

              ps
              in general, Putin-Erdogan negotiations have been completed, a roadmap has been made, decisions will be announced by the foreign ministers.
    3. Oquzyurd 5 March 2020 16: 18 New
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      Well, what to do, the dream mountain is visible from the Iravan balcony, as always, no more.
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        Do not get lost there in the clouds ...
        Do not crawl through the tree with thought.
        Be clearer and more understandable to the people, express yourself more simply and the people will begin to understand you :)
  • Dmitry Baeshko 5 March 2020 15: 07 New
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    Only business ... expressing condolences to the aggressor is a manifestation of weakness, the destiny of the weak on the sidelines of history.
  • askort154 5 March 2020 15: 16 New
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    Vladimir Vladimirovich, do not believe, do not ask, do not give in. Now the whole world is watching who will "drive away" whom. Russia is in Syria legally, Turkey is an invader there. negative
    (I wanted to convey personally, but did not get through no ).
    1. cniza 5 March 2020 15: 37 New
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      Nothing he will read lol
  • Pavel57 5 March 2020 15: 20 New
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    In history, Russia has paid far-off Turkey.
    1. Zoldat_A 5 March 2020 15: 50 New
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      In history, Russia has paid far-off Turkey.

      Specifically, in which year? Or do you know something special that others do not know?
      1. Pavel57 5 March 2020 16: 09 New
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        For Crimea, Russia paid Turkey.
        1. Zoldat_A 5 March 2020 16: 31 New
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          Quote: Pavel57
          In history, Russia has paid far-off Turkey.

          Quote: Pavel57
          For the Crimea Russia paid Turkey.

          Already not "in history", only "beyond the Crimea"?
          Well, then I will disappoint you.


          The Crimean War of 1853-1856, unsuccessful for Russia, against the coalition of Great Britain, France and the Ottoman Empire ended in the signing of the Paris Peace Treaty in 1856. There were military concessions, there were political, there were territorial ... Where did you "pay"?

          Do not believe me - read the text of the Agreement yourself and find there at least one word about paying for something.
          http://www.hist.msu.ru/ER/Etext/FOREIGN/paris.htm
          This is not a kid on the fence scrambled, this is the Electronic Library of the History Department of Moscow State University, for a minute.

          And yes. Do not read Ukrainian newspapers for the night - you may not even dream about it.
          1. Pavel57 5 March 2020 16: 36 New
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            I'm talking about the history of the annexation of Crimea during the time of Catherine II.
            1. Zoldat_A 5 March 2020 16: 57 New
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              Quote: Pavel57
              I'm talking about the history of the annexation of Crimea during the time of Catherine II.

              Are you talking about the Iasi Treaty securing the annexation of Crimea to Russia?

              I will answer the same thing - read the text of the Agreement and look for at least one word "buyback", "buyback" or "payment" there.
              http://doc.histrf.ru/18/yasskiy-mirnyy-dogovor/

              Read, damn it, different turbidity, hear the Ukrainian radio ...

              And if for some time Russia kept its protege Shahin Girey, who was always plotting conspiracies against the central Turkish authorities - it’s hard to call it “otkup”. Rather, "opposition grants" ...
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      Yes, we see on the map the dimensions of Russia and Turkey ...
  • KAVBER 5 March 2020 15: 27 New
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    Politics is a dirty business, here you’ll not be clean and white gloves, you’ll have to mess up
  • Mavrikiy 5 March 2020 15: 30 New
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    Why did the president take the head of the financial department with him? How is it related to the idlib crisis?
    Directly. Suddenly, it will be necessary to calculate the losses of Turkey from the loss of regular tour and tomato flows.
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    And the same Erdogad to the Syrian people, I am silent about Putin, expressed condolences? There are not only hundreds of dead military defending their land! Turks and civilians massively bomb and fire! In order to preserve the remnants of people's confidence in themselves, Putin needs to speak harshly with the Turks, making it clear that we will not trade Syria!
    Will you order Russia again? ... Disappointed - SOLD.
    And Syria, forget about the Soviet cliches, our country, Russia, the capitalist state with the ideology "Rob the loot!" ...
    Syria is a bargaining chip, with a small dignity. There are interests of our state-owned corporations and oligarchs, if they are satisfied, then there is no need to be naive to cheat on our tops on that Syria. And the people - the people are worthy of their ruler, so there is nothing to blame on the mirror ...

    ... and the Minister of Finance Erdoогan was brought with him not in vain, financial intelligence is there, they will show everything that they have "honestly earned" hidden from them and that they may lose. Yes, and Qatari friends could help with this ...
    1. Thrifty 5 March 2020 15: 39 New
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      Sarcasm, it turned out well for you to completely interrupt the essence of what I wrote! I do not suggest how you LIE to trade Syria! And in general, enough to take a few words out of context, smack nonsense!
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      I would not want you to be right.
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      Syria is a bargaining chip, with a small dignity.

      My very elderly mother also used to think that we climbed into Syria according to our Orthodox faith, the former Paradise to be conquered from the Gentiles ...
      Holy simplicity.
  • Pytnik 5 March 2020 15: 34 New
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    While negotiations are ongoing .... SARAKIB, Mar 5 - RIA Novosti. Terrorists of the Jebhat al-Nusra group * (banned in the Russian Federation) resumed fire on the Syrian city of Sarakib and the M5 highway connecting Damascus and Aleppo through it, a RIA Novosti correspondent reports.
    Artillery of government forces of the SAR is trying to suppress the firing positions of militants. The situation was sharply complicated after several hours of calm.
    1. Livonetc 5 March 2020 16: 34 New
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      So no one expects an instant ceasefire with the start of negotiations.
      The fire is likely to continue, with one intensity or another, even after reaching a compromise agreement.
  • Dmitry Potapov 5 March 2020 15: 39 New
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    "So be it, Vladimir, I will pay for everything!". "Well, did I get my wallet !?"
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    Quote: Wend
    There is little to believe, it is also necessary to remove the Turkish military from Syria. In Syria, only one country is officially located at the invitation of the Syrian president - Russia. Others are aggressors pursuing their goals.

    and only everyone else is hammering the Syrians without asking them for consent)
  • Lord of the Sith 5 March 2020 15: 48 New
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    The fact that the Sultan flew in full steam, also grabbed senior officials, is encouraging that the negotiations will be cultural, and not come to a standstill
  • Ural resident 5 March 2020 15: 57 New
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    Erdogan has already said so much that now his retinue will simply not allow him to retreat. If at least somewhere it sounds that the Turkish troops are withdrawn, they will devour his houses. Himself rhetoric raised to such a degree. Here it depends on ours, if again we return to the agreements on the disarmament of terrorists by the Turkish side, then everything will happen again, only the Turks will be more prepared. And the Syrian army after such losses will perceive this as a betrayal. Our VKS will have to clean it again then only from less advantageous positions. But our president is "glorious" for not changing the contract, so I’m afraid that they will say again: "the parties agreed to fulfill the previous agreements." But in reality, the war will only gain momentum.
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    If you came to Putin, then it will be something to freeze again ..
  • Cycle boss 5 March 2020 16: 08 New
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    Maybe the Minister of Finance has a tomato business in Russia (with Russia), so they all went crazy .. but they didn’t care about the deaths of people (they almost got smacked) .. war is a business however
  • fif21 5 March 2020 16: 09 New
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    Turkey's interests in Syria 1. Eliminate the threat from the Kurds. 2. Oil. If there is understanding on the first point (the Kurds interacted with the United States), then on the second there will not be, or the sultan's appetites will be thoroughly reduced. Back in 18, I heard from local people in Turkey that they were preparing to pay rubles, (apparently the Minister of Finance, in case of successful negotiations, in the form of a bonus, will sign an agreement on mutual settlements in national currency. This is an option.) hi
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      There is a third point that may have given the main impetus to the direct invasion.
      These are the personal imperial (Ottoman) aspirations of Erdogan and his party.
      "I do not want to be a free queen, I want to be the mistress of the sea, To live in the sea of ​​Okiyana, So that I can serve a goldfish And I would have been on my premises."
      However, the Sultan is at great risk of being left with nothing.
      The goldfish, she is Russia, will not tolerate this.
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      Eliminate the threat from the Kurds

      The threat is intentionally greatly exaggerated in order to be necessary for the Turkish leadership.
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    Why did the president take the head of the financial department with him? How is it related to the idlib crisis?

    The Sultan hopes that the donkey loaded with gold will open the gates of the Idlib fortress.
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  • 16112014nk 5 March 2020 16: 48 New
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    Erdogan took the Minister of Finance with him to get another loan on favorable terms. For Turkey, and may be irrevocable.
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      Erdogan took the Minister of Finance with him to get another loan on favorable terms.

      Credit for a military operation in Syria .... X-mm ... Not a bad idea.
      What do you think will give?
  • flicker 5 March 2020 16: 55 New
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    They will fix the territory in fact and freeze the situation. We are on the condition that the Turks later leave Idlib. The Turks that later wring everything back.
  • Gennady Fomkin 5 March 2020 16: 59 New
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    In the Turkish media, the meeting in Moscow is paying increased attention. It is noted that the composition of the Turkish delegation, which landed on a government board at Vnukovo II Airport, is more than representative. In addition to Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the delegation includes Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu, Defense Minister Hulusi Akar, Presidential Spokesman Ibrahim Kalyn, Official Representative of the Turkish Ruling Party Omer Celik, Head of National Intelligence Hakan Fidan. In addition, the Minister of Finance of Turkey Berat Albayrak joined the delegation. And meanwhile ..... Turkish traders complain that they cannot order gas with delivery from Bulgaria to Turkey. Operators of the two countries do not open reservations for cross-border crossing capacities and do not draw up an inter-operator agreement. At the same time, almost all gas supply capacities through the Trans-Balkan gas pipeline are still reserved by Gazprom.

    Three companies from Turkey accuse the operators of gas transmission systems in Bulgaria and Turkey of not allowing access to the reservation of capacities for the cross-border crossing of the Trans-Balkan gas pipeline.
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    Quote: Runoway

    Remember the already "profitable" projects that the pipeline, the nuclear power plant with their payback, who benefits?

    is this analytics, simply divine, in fact, Turkey itself can probably provide its industry with fuel at affordable prices? No, and they didn’t like Amer’s LNG, the question is, who benefits from the Turkish stream? right turkey
    about the nuclear power plant, the construction of this pepelats, a very time-consuming, costly, etc. process, and the competence in the construction remained similar to Rosatom’s current, and now ask yourself another question, when completing the plan and in time for the nuclear power plant, who will receive non-volatility and reduce burning hydrocarbons, and with the right approach, will it also sell current? right turkey
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    Meanwhile, an article on a Turkish site discussing the colors of Putin and Erdogan's ties.
    https://www.haberler.com/putin-ve-erdogan-in-gorusmede-tercih-ettikleri-12983883-haberi
  • Ros 56 5 March 2020 17: 41 New
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    Well, he arrived, and ..... What is it about? What did the wallet take with it?
  • Sarkazm 5 March 2020 18: 01 New
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    Sarcasm, it turned out well for you to completely interrupt the essence of what I wrote! I do not suggest how you LIE to trade Syria! And in general, enough to take a few words out of context, smack nonsense!
    You called not to trade Syria. And if you DO NOT TRADE it, I’m embarrassed to ask, why did she give up to us, this Syria? winked Just don’t tell me about the gentle and pure and God forbid you tell me about the "international duty" hi
    We are not children and teenagers here, and not teenagers gathered. The tasks in the fight against terrorism have indeed been, and they have also been solved by us. Syria now, our presence there, the actions of our videoconferencing is a subject of profit and a subject of bargaining. The world is so arranged, we are so arranged, saying we mean our country, we have not been a socialist state for a long time and even not already socially oriented. We are a capitalist state, young, immature, in many aspects wild, but precisely capitalistic. Capital in the country belongs to less than 10% of the population, including those in power. Now tell me as an adult, and not a young and naive gymnasium student, WHAT tasks are our CAPITAL currently solving in Syria?

    I’ll just ask you to think again before answering, and I’ll ask you again not to talk about tender, soft and fluffy - this is a canine Mr. in poplar fluff and no more, believe me, I’m a dog man and in the poplar flowering season on my dog’s walking I often watch this naive in nature, and not just in the thoughts and their character of opponents.
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      Tough, unpleasant ... But essentially, unfortunately.
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        Also, like a dog lover)))
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      WHAT tasks is our CAPITAL currently solving in Syria?

      Sale of weapons. Perspective: oil, arms sales, participation in joint business projects. The strategic objective of capital: limiting the ability of "partners" to lay a pipeline in the EU. To provide Indian refineries, with the participation of Russian companies, with raw materials from BV, and not from Siberia. Don't you know that in Russia there are transnational companies such as Rosneft, Lukoil, Gazprom? hi
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      Quote: Sarkazm
      WHAT tasks is our CAPITAL currently solving in Syria?

      The war for the general, state account (from the pockets of citizens), contracts after the war - for private business.
      Let's go das zane ...
  • Old Horseradish 5 March 2020 18: 47 New
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    I’m sorry, if we have such “partners”, then who is the one who walks in our enemies? What kind of "genius" do you need to be to get yourself such "friends and partners"?
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      then who do we walk in enemies?

      There are no enemies of the Russian Federation! Putin is well received in Israel, and in Syria, and in Turkey, and in China, and ..... even in the United States, if he stands for President, he will create his party PE (republicans) D (emocrats) in a lawsuit Republicans and Democrats will vote for him, while Trump will nervously smoke aside wassat
  • rotkiv04 5 March 2020 18: 47 New
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    How can I talk to this Turkish bestiality at all?
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      How can I talk to this Turkish bestiality at all?

      A fisherman is a fisherman ...
  • Sarkazm 5 March 2020 19: 33 New
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    talk with this bestial Turkish talk
    Um, only three know about it, if it had a place to be: Erdogan, that same donkey and the Lord God.
    Sorry, but you are clearly not the Lord God, God forgive me, and Erdogan seems to be not registered here.

    We, Russia, should have been above the situation, if we are not even great, I hope so far, but we aspire to a revival of former greatness, then we should not stoop to "boyish behavior."
    Erdogan well done that he came to us, I don’t know who how, but only more respected him for this step. But Putin had to fly to Ankara and talk with Erdogan there, this is subtlety, nuance, and such a step would mean a lot and made it clear to the Turks. The fact that Erdogan himself came to us, if we put aside the squeals of his opposition and the comments of our hadspect, added Erdogan points and not only inside Turkey. This is an initiative, and it should never be given away.

    It’s easy to build an example of an initiative and chains, just the level of perception is similar to the level of logic of boyish fights in the yard.
    Chain A: the Turks boiled up, the Turks got together they built as little ones, Putin went to the Turks and decided everything.
    Chain B: the Russians (Iranians, Syrians) climbed, the Turks went ahead, the Russians hit, the Turks answered, Erdogan went to Moscow and decided everything.

    We similar actions of our geniuses omit the country. Unfortunately tongue-tied, but I hope at least somehow caught the essence of the edge.
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    Quote: maxim947
    Without mutual concessions they will not solve anything

    Turkey has already drawn into the war. Ending hostilities is in principle much more difficult. A compromise solution may be joint measures to disarm all gangs in Idlib. Although this is in great contradiction with Erdogan’s aspirations to destroy President Assad, who denied him access to Syrian oil.

    Assad refused him free oil, i.e. count free concession. Who agrees to support the invader with his own money. The Russian Federation cannot afford to lose face in Syria - it will be such a blow to the image that even the poorest African tribes will turn their backs on Russia. I hope our politicum with the president at the head understands this and will not fall into Turkish freaks.
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    Quote: Vlad5307
    Quote: Vita VKO
    Quote: maxim947
    Without mutual concessions they will not solve anything

    Turkey has already drawn into the war. Ending hostilities is in principle much more difficult. A compromise solution may be joint measures to disarm all gangs in Idlib. Although this is in great contradiction with Erdogan’s aspirations to destroy President Assad, who denied him access to Syrian oil.

    Assad refused him free oil, i.e. count free concession. Who agrees to support the invader with his own money. The Russian Federation cannot afford to lose face in Syria - it will be such a blow to the image that even the poorest African tribes will turn their backs on Russia. I hope our politicum with the president at the head understands this and will not fall into Turkish freaks.
    Syrian oil ... this is nothing compared to what goes to Erdogan from Iraq. Yes, and next to Iran under sanctions, which has the largest reserves of oil and gas, you want to take a freebie with double bass as much as you can.
    Not that reason.
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  • no one 5 March 2020 22: 46 New
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    There is a lot of writing about Syrian oil. There is not a lot of it, and all that Assad has is enough for him. The bulk of the Americans, and so far they are not going to give it to anyone. And she is not in the idlib. Where there is popping no one risks. Here, some wrote that allegedly the Russians drove them out of the bases. Some kind of dislocation of the brain. The Americans left them so as not to collide with the Turkish army. And the Russians took advantage of occupied empty bases. They write about the sale of weapons of Assad. He has no money. And in the next 10-15 years will not be. Only on credit, which then will have to be written off
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      Quote: neden
      The Americans left them so as not to collide with the Turkish army.

      Yes, here I hope everyone understands everything and without sharing ...
      American planes don't crash - they just crash
      American tanks don’t destroy - their army just forgets to pick it up from the battlefield,
      American soldiers do not run and do not retreat - they just leave, leaving the enemy with overwork and good things and reading aloud the prayers for world peace ...
  • Sarkazm 5 March 2020 23: 08 New
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    «Unfortunately, as I already told you in a telephone conversation, no one, including the Syrian troops, knew about their (Turkish military) location. During this time, the Syrian army suffered serious losses.. ".
    Well, they beat yours, you avenged a hundredfold, and we’ll agree on this - that’s how you can interpret it.

    I liked the mention of terrorist groups recognized as such by the UN, in principle, this suits all parties and the Turks, too. They parted well, God forbid, that this all ended, the conflict and its aggravation between us and the Turks are not needed by our both countries.
    And we need the Turks and Assad with the Iranians put together are not worth our relationship, and we need the Turks, and we can be just a partner, a profitable partner, without the rudeness of the gentleman in a star-striped cap.
    I'd like to hope that this is an agreement, not a game.
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    I think that Erdogan remembers very well how he was almost overthrown - and who first warned him of the rebellion and naturally he knows who really ordered the whole coup card ...
    Erdogan is well aware that Putin is his forced ally at this stage, and from his NATO allies, on the contrary, he may well get a knife in the back again. as it was in 2016 ..
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