Belgium argues with Lockheed Martin: Brussels wants compensation for F-35 fighters


Negotiations on the F-35 between manufacturer Lockheed Martin and Belgium are being delayed and becoming more complex. Brussels expects to receive compensation by agreement.


In 2018, Belgium entered into a contract with the United States for the supply of 34 fifth-generation F-35 aircraft for the needs of its Air Force. In Brussels, they planned to replace them with 54 F-16 fighters, which have been in the arsenal of the Belgian Air Force since the 1980s. The contract value amounted to 3,8 billion dollars.

But the Belgian side had one very important condition - Brussels demanded the participation of its industry in the production program of the latest aircraft. Brussels' position on this issue is understandable - to load its industrial capacities, solve the problem of jobs and achieve a return on funds invested in the acquisition of aircraft. Meanwhile, experts have already established that, at best, industrial enterprises in the south of the country, in Wallonia, will be able to rely on only 700 million euros of industrial income during the term of the contract.

This amount refers to the most optimistic scenarios and concerns both participation in the manufacture of F-35 elements and aircraft maintenance for at least fifteen years,

- writes a Belgian source.

Lockheed Martin, in turn, does not promise to compensate for the investment, which has allowed many Belgian media to talk about Brussels' over-naivety when buying the F-35. Moreover, you can compare the position of Lockheed Martin with its rival Dassault Aviation, which offered Belgium to acquire Rafale. Unlike the American company, the French promised the Belgians a 3,8% guarantee of the return of XNUMX billion dollars in the course of the contract. It turns out that the conditions for the acquisition of Rafale were more favorable.

Perhaps senior Belgian officials are already “biting their elbows,” desperate to negotiate with their American partners. The Belgian government, which alluded to “security interests,” ended up in an extremely disadvantaged position: Lockheed has few obligations to it, and the Belgian leadership has even less opportunity to put pressure on the American company.

What is the international effect of the dispute between Belgium and Lockheed Martin? First of all, the fact that the position of the American company shows: before concluding an agreement on the acquisition of the F-35, you need to think very carefully. Americans, always guided by the “right of the strong”, will pursue exclusively their own benefit, which may conflict with the original intentions and calculations of the buyer.

With customers, by the way, things are not as good as the Americans would like. Firstly, the F-35 aircraft is very expensive and can only be acquired by wealthy, solvent countries. Accordingly, Eastern European states are excluded, which Washington is actively “feeding” now.

Secondly, the numerous shortcomings of the aircraft are already known. Even those aircraft, the purchase agreement of which was concluded with Belgium, were declared unfit by the American experts themselves.

Thirdly, the project has competitors. The most solvent countries in Europe - France, Germany, the UK - prefer to develop their own fifth-generation fighter projects. Even the UK, which had previously relied heavily on the F-35, is now implementing the Tempest program.

In addition to European countries, fifth-generation American fighters could acquire Persian Gulf monarchies. They have enough money. But the sale of the latest fighters to the Arab kingdoms and the emirates is a "nightmare" of neighboring Israel, whose interests are also lobbyed by an impressive part of the American political and economic elite. So the fate of further international contracts on the F-35 is very vague.
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  1. rocket757 5 March 2020 13: 19 New
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    A plane by plane ... and then the money apart!
    The capitalists, however, are they like the molecules of freedom or whatever ... the wings of dermocracy!
    1. Pete mitchell 5 March 2020 14: 13 New
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      Quote: rocket757
      ... and then the money apart

      Capitalism however - contracts must be read before signing. The Walloons - they had you: according to the contract
      1. rocket757 5 March 2020 14: 26 New
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        Yankees concocted a "good deal"!
        The old geyropa completely forgot how to catch mice!
      2. TermNachTer 5 March 2020 19: 52 New
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        I think that we read carefully, but at some point the reader was “averted”, not only after reading, probably a whole legal department. Or "Lockheed" decided to "stupidly throw suckers."
        1. Pete mitchell 5 March 2020 20: 32 New
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          Quote: rocket757
          Yankees concocted a "good deal"

          , everything for yourself favorite.
          Quote: TermNachTER
          "Lockheed" decided to "stupidly throw suckers."

          I sincerely doubt that this is reasonable on the part of the lockheed: the earth is round. Animal grin of capitalism but...
          1. TermNachTer 5 March 2020 21: 50 New
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            In my opinion, recently, mattress mattresses are not ceremony with anyone. All are considered as a slave, they differ only in grades. Belgium is somewhere in the 2nd grade.
            1. rich 6 March 2020 00: 03 New
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              Brussels wants compensation for F-35 fighters

              We need to support Brussels in defiance of Washington, and send them to help Gazprom’s “best and most effective managers and lawyers.” Those, as usual, any court will win yes laughing
  2. Victor_B 5 March 2020 13: 21 New
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    Aha
    Americans will fork out.
    How so.
    Fuck you, not a medal!
  3. knn54 5 March 2020 13: 28 New
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    To whom I owe, those ... I forgive.
  4. Vlad5307 5 March 2020 13: 33 New
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    Quote: Victor_B
    Aha
    Americans will fork out.
    How so.
    Fuck you, not a medal!

    These are their "partners" - what is mine is mine, and yours is mine too! laughing
  5. usr01 5 March 2020 13: 58 New
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    From America ??? Receive??? This is a joke of humor, yes ???????
  6. Do not care 5 March 2020 14: 17 New
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    The size of kickbacks is always important And the most controversial part of any agreement with government agencies
  7. Thrifty 5 March 2020 14: 41 New
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    Wait for the "penguin fans" who will operate with numbers in their interests! The basis is that f35 made 500 pieces. True, it doesn’t matter that for aerial combat with an almost equal rival, this aerial disfavor is unsuitable, and for an equivalent opponent the f35 will become just a target!
  8. dauria 5 March 2020 14: 52 New
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    Even those planes, the purchase agreement of which was concluded with Belgium, were declared unfit by the American experts themselves.


    What kind of "experts"?
    So the fate of further international contracts on the F-35 is very vague.


    No fog - any aircraft need a shock front-line aircraft. And not just a clean fighter. And usually in a ratio of more than 1: 1. There are no other modern ones on the markets and will not appear soon. They will fill the whole world with them. Those who will not be able to buy a new one in the future will buy their used options.
    Europe does not have enough money to develop its own, the Chinese did not have time, we overslept (while we shared the overturned KAMAZ with gingerbread cookies)
    An excellent aircraft, a workhorse, sadly admit it.
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    2. Ros 56 5 March 2020 16: 48 New
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      Sam flew or read fairy tales? Or maybe not a horse at all, but an ordinary donkey. fool
      1. dauria 5 March 2020 18: 00 New
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        Sam flew or read fairy tales?

        I didn’t have a chance ... But I would like to see miniature hydroelectric stations on each steering surface. Also, how the simulation of a reversible control scheme is organized, the algorithm of turning ESR failures to ground-based radars, and ... there are a lot of interesting things there.
        However, let’s move on to your language - there isn’t even a donkey at our stable, but it’s time to send our horsemen to the flayer, they began to toothless from old age.
        1. Ros 56 5 March 2020 18: 10 New
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          Yeah, wait, see who the hell is worse.
          Only one question, in which basement are you all so smart hiding and don’t do a damn, or you can shed tears of crocodile tears on various sites. That is not the case with us, and it’s not that way, the critics are gouged.
          1. dauria 5 March 2020 18: 19 New
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            Just one question, in which basement are you all so smart hiding

            Why are we hiding? Written off as unnecessary, chew our remaining rations with our remaining teeth and look. Understanding perfectly what was and what is.
            Only one thing is surprising - during the USSR Objective assessment the enemy. I hope that caps for throwing the enemy were given only to Internet fighters like you.
            1. Ros 56 5 March 2020 18: 24 New
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              Do not worry so, they will also give you, two in each hand.
  9. Butchcassidy 5 March 2020 15: 44 New
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    I wonder where the information about the "Israeli nightmare" comes from.

    Jews are better pilots than Arabs; this is a known fact. Because there is "half our former people." So on the F-35 or not, but the Arabs are still worse as pilots.

    If desired, the Arab countries can buy any other aircraft, including and by financing the relevant European programs or by waiting for the sale of our or Chinese 5th generation aircraft. Which will not yield to the F-35. Another question is the reluctance to push their own planes on the part of the Americans in real combat. In this I believe more.
  10. Ros 56 5 March 2020 16: 45 New
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    In my trump, this sharashkin NATO office will be dispersed in my trump and will begin to milk everyone to the fullest. If you want equipment, pay in full.
  11. iouris 5 March 2020 23: 22 New
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    "People die for metal ..." Any decision of the Hague court will "cost" tens of billions - such a life.
  12. ugol2 6 March 2020 00: 23 New
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    Even those planes, the purchase agreement of which was concluded with Belgium, were declared unfit by the American experts themselves.

    Are they there that buy scrap metal at the price of gold?