The latest TOS-2 flamethrower system will be shown at the Victory Parade in Moscow

The latest TOS-2 Tosochka heavy flamethrower system will be shown for the first time at the Victory Parade on May 9, 2020 on Moscow Red Square. This was reported by the press service of the Ministry of Defense.

According to the military department, nine TOS-1A Solntsepek combat vehicles and four TOS-2 Tosochka combat vehicles will take part in the parade. All equipment has already arrived in Alabino, where it is preparing for training.

In total, 225 units of weapons and military equipment will be involved in the military parade, of which more than 20 latest models of military equipment will be demonstrated for the first time.

Earlier it was reported that the first batch of the latest TOS-2 heavy flamethrower systems will go into trial operation on Victory Day in the Great Patriotic War.

According to Igor Kirillov, the head of the radiation, chemical, and biological defense forces, the development of the promising heavy TOS-2 flamethrower system, previously called the Tosochka, should be completed by the spring of this year, and by May these machines should already be in trial operation of the flamethrower units RKhBZ troops. It was reported that new flamethrower vehicles will take part in the Victory Parade on Red Square on May 9, 2020.

The TOS-2 heavy flamethrower system was created on the basis of the TOS-1 "Pinocchio" and the TOS-1 "Solntsepek", but unlike them it has a wheelbase and improved tactical and technical characteristics. Earlier it was reported about the possibility of creating new ammunition for TOS-2. The machine was created taking into account the experience of using such weapons in the course of hostilities in the Middle East.

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[master 52]

this is certainly good, but why show something that has not even been adopted yet and passes only tests?

[Calm]

why not, a promising weapon

[Malyuta]

Quote: Calm

why not, a promising weapon

As far as can be understood from open sources, the "Tosochka" will differ from the "Solntsepёk" by a wheeled platform instead of a tracked one and improved ammunition in range, most likely new electronics.
In other words, this is a deep modernization of "Solntsepёk".
Approximately the same thing happened with the "Grad", they improved the ammunition and got the "Tornado", with the only difference that the wheel chassis was not changed.

[Calm]

Well, the same thing must be shown

[cost]

The TOS-2 heavy flame-throwing system was created on the basis of the TOS-1 "Buratino" and TOS-1A "Solntsepek", but in contrast to them it has a wheelbase and improved tactical and technical characteristics.

The picture for the article "The newest flamethrower system TOS-2 will be shown at the Victory Parade in Moscow" is not correct. Instead:

should be this:

[bessmertniy]

Maybe check in Idlib?

[Sayan]

Quote: bessmertniy

Maybe check in Idlib?

Or in the Donbass, burn monkeys.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: bessmertniy

Maybe check in Idlib?

It would be good. So that "interested customers" will appreciate the product on their own skin.

[ximkim]

Yeah. they (TOS-2) would also have the names corresponding to the local flavor (give the names of the angels of hell from the Koran) given. To know that there is hellish flour on earth)))

[smart ass]

It may be time to rely on high precision rather than burn hectares

[andranick]

It is not always advisable to use high-precision ammunition where volume detonation is more effective.

[sledak]

Quote: Clever man

It may be time to rely on high precision rather than burn hectares

It all depends on the situation, sometimes high-precision hectares must also be burned.

[Tuzik]

actually it’s a flamethrower, for disinfecting hectares from chemical and biological threats

[Air force]

Many have forgotten about this and the fact that these flamethrowers are in service with the troops of the "RCB protection". It's just that Russia once considered terrorists a biological threat, and used "Buratin" to burn out this infection, but it turned out so effectively that everyone thought that these flamethrowers were invented for this. Good symbolism turned out in Russia, to use weapons against the "barmaley" designed to fight infection.

[genisis]

That's right. The firing range is small. Therefore, when in April 2016, Azerbaijan decided to use TOS-1 against the manpower of Armenians, not knowing the tactics of using this system, then it was expected to lose one car from artillery fire. In the remaining days of the clashes, I did not make new attempts to use the system.

[Skubudu]

Wheelbase - an attempt to reduce the cost of the project?

[Piramidon]

Quote: Skubudu

Wheelbase - an attempt to reduce the cost of the project?

Not only.
Tracks vs wheels: a dilemma for all times

While tracks provide superior mobility to heavier platforms, the use of wheels reduces logistics and allows modern platforms to move farther and faster - effectively projecting power and capabilities - across different types of terrain, including civilian infrastructure such as roads and bridges.
https://topwar.ru/137518-gusenicy-protiv-koles-dilemma-na-vse-vremena.html

[Piramidon]

Quote: 52 master

this is certainly good, but why show something that has not even been adopted yet and passes only tests?

The parade is, first of all, a political event addressed to a potential foe - "look what we have and think."
For the same purpose, the media are reporting on the latest developments. Nothing specifically secret, but it makes you think.

[APASUS]

Quote: master 52

but why show something that has not even been adopted yet and passes only tests?

This is not for you to see who needs to see ............................

[Alexey from Perm]

then that it affects the rating you know who you are. Hurray to the patriots, but in joy.

[McDonnell Douglas]

Once a year, at the Victory Parade, they show us what could theoretically be in our troops.

[master 52]

in the Soviet years they showed only what was already in the military, but what can be or only passes the tests, after 10 years they showed and how for me it is right

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: master 52

in the Soviet years showed only what was already in the military

I remember that such healthy models were carried, in fear of the aggressor.
https://info.sibnet.ru/article/478630/

[Piramidon]

Quote: master 52

in the Soviet years, they showed only what was already in the military, and what can be or is only being tested in 10 years showed

You're not right. As an example. The first three Tu-4 aircraft, which were still undergoing tests, flew at the parade on August 18, 1947 on Air Fleet Day in Tushino.
The same thing happened with the Tu-95 and the M-4. They were also shown at the parades of 1955 and 1957, even before entering the troops.
What is the secret intelligence of the enemy can learn by looking at the equipment in the parade?

[master 52]

It was more a demonstration of the appearance of delivery vehicles, I am not against the shows themselves, but only so that it really goes to the military, and the deadlines are met

[Serg65]

Quote: master 52

in the soviet years

Are you a specialist in the Soviet years?

[smart ass]

In the year XNUMX, if the USSR had not collapsed

[Ros 56]

At the parade, this is certainly good. But in my opinion it is better in Syria on barmaleys and those who support them have demonstrated his work, you look Eric Ottoman and would like to buy TOC. And we would not sell. Quite a different matter. Then you can go to the parade, there is something to show.

[McDonnell Douglas]

Along the red square is a combined regiment of special operations forces in invisible caps. Just as you do not see them, so the enemy will not see them ...
Next, an invisible to the eye and radar technique will be created by our scientists on new physical principles ...

[andranick]

The area is not red, but Red, my invisible is not a friend.

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: andranick

The area is not red, but Red, my invisible is not a friend.

He already can’t do without foolishness. Nature takes its toll.

[Piramidon]

Quote: andranick

The area is not red, but Red, my invisible is not a friend.

You are accessing a bot program.

[andranick]

He is not a bot to us! ))) Troll of pure water

[Piramidon]

Quote: andranick

He is not a bot to us! ))) Troll of pure water

But the troll is automatic and programmable.

[andranick]

I agree, on the machine ser .. answers, according to the paid program)))

[Piramidon]

Quote: andranick

I agree, on the machine ser .. answers, according to the paid program)))

It also sculpts cons for all those who disagree with his program.

[Grits]

It is interesting, on the basis of which car will it be made and will drive along Red Square? Does anyone have data or secret photos?
If not, make bets.
- Ural
- Kamaz
- BAZ
- MZKT

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Gritsa

If not, make bets.
- Ural
- Kamaz
- BAZ
- MZKT

Who holds the bank?

[Grits]

Quote: Vasyan1971

Who holds the bank?

Damn ... Well ... Again about the money.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Gritsa

Damn ... Well ... Again about the money.

Good. You can agree on the caps of beer bottles. Not the point.

[Grits]

Quote: Vasyan1971

Quote: Gritsa

Damn ... Well ... Again about the money.

Good. You can agree on the caps of beer bottles. Not the point.

So far no one has made a bet. Looks like they don’t drink beer and they didn’t see Tosochka.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Gritsa

So far no one has made a bet.

We’ll wait, not yet evening.

[abc77777]

Kamaz, .........

[Piramidon]

Quote: Gritsa

It is interesting, on the basis of which car will it be made and will drive along Red Square? Does anyone have data or secret photos?
If not, make bets.
- Ural
- Kamaz
- BAZ
- MZKT

Most likely, BAZ or KAMAZ. For "Ural", I think, the system is too heavy, but at the expense of MZKT, after all the extreme Batka somersaults, the Moscow Region hardly has bright prospects.

[Grits]

Quote: Piramidon

Most likely, BAZ or KAMAZ. For "Ural", I think, the system is too heavy, but at the expense of MZKT, after all the extreme Batka somersaults, the Moscow Region hardly has bright prospects.

I hold the same opinion. Therefore, GAZ did not even insert it here - after all, a couple of guides - this is not serious.
BAZ, it seems to me, is more preferable. But Kamaz has a cooler lobby.

[rocket757]

Self-propelled armahide ... what else can I add.

[Finn]

master 52 "this is certainly good, but why show something that has not even been adopted yet and passes only tests?"
The tsar’s gun didn’t even fire once, but the ardor of the Poles cooled off or, as Hitler said about the KB tanks: “if I knew that the Russians had such tanks I would probably have thought”. Let them be afraid, then they’ll go to the series.

[smart ass]

Suddenly the Americans are afraid of the flamethrower

[Finn]

Wiseass is not just a flamethrower. Unparalleled in the world and yes it is terrible on the battlefield. There is a chance to hide from bombs and rockets. No from him.

[Grits]

Quote: Finn

Unparalleled in the world and yes it is terrible on the battlefield. There is a chance to hide from bombs and rockets. No from him.

My nephew, when I was in an emergency, when I was at the Russian Chemical Plant, said that at the Sergeevsky training ground their team (the city of Lesozavodsk) shot from Pinocchio. He says the earth is shaking and the body has an irresistible desire for involuntary excretion of fecal matter

[chenia]

I think. that these systems should be used by artillerymen (one way or another, planning of fire events is the work of artillery commanders). Chemists provide storage and delivery (TZM). Batch loading. And then the execution of a combat mission by artillerymen (this is their vital work).
To do this, the division has a whole division (previously it was in the AP). True in the materiel must be corrected.

[x.andvlad]

Most likely it will be so in practice. Nothing prevents these flamethrowers from seconding to artillery. It all depends on the situation.

[Finn]

Andvlad and in chemical forces, mine clearance, too, he is our place.

[x.andvlad]

Quote: chenia

To do this, the division has a whole division (previously it was in the AP). True in the materiel must be corrected.

I don’t know about you, but in the Airborne formations, as were artillery regiments, they remain.

[chenia]

Quote: x.andvlad

Airborne formations as were artillery regiments

In MSD and TD, too. I meant ReaDN in AP. (until 1982-83 it was separate).

[abc77777]

There is nothing like this in artillery and never has been. Flamethrowers of all kinds from bumblebees to current Pinocchio in chemists.

[Crystal of Truth]

And then the Turkish drone will fly in and multiply these TOCs by zero

[Finn]

Everything is possible. Or he will not fly and they will put him in jail. Not constructive somehow. If maybe ..

[V.I.P.]

If an enemy of various kinds of rebels is one thing ... But using it against an army armed with barrage of ammunition, shock drones, planning bombs, and adjustable shells will be very, very problematic. The range is not comparable ....

[Finn]

V.I.P. It’s not like in the famous work about the Austerlitz battle “all people, horses are mixed up”. For airplanes there are our airplanes and other equipment. All weapons have their own role in the theater. Such a theater, the director, of course, must be correct. Of course there are mistakes.

[Crystal of Truth]

Here I am about

[Victor March 47]

The article talks about a wheeled car, and the photo shows a goose. Is it from the bewilderment of the author, or the lack of photo paper in our time? Still no way to photograph the wheel?

[alavrin]

Exactly, there is no way to photograph the latest technology. And it is right.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: V.I.P.

If an enemy of various kinds of rebels is one thing ... But using it against an army armed with barrage of ammunition, shock drones, planning bombs, and adjustable shells will be very, very problematic. The range is not comparable ....

What matters is not an ax, but a set of tools. Both an ax and a scalpel. Or did your carpenter cut out appendicitis on your operating table?

[Old26]

Quote: 52 master

in the Soviet years they showed only what was already in the military, but what can be or only passes the tests, after 10 years they showed and how for me it is right

Not always. At the parades of the 50-60s, both non-armed missiles, and non-armed artillery systems, and non-armed aircraft were shown

Quote: Gritsa

It is interesting, on the basis of which car will it be made and will drive along Red Square? Does anyone have data or secret photos?
If not, make bets.
- Ural
- Kamaz
- BAZ
- MZKT

I heard that on the chassis of the Tornado platform (produced by the Ural factories)

[Vlad5307]

Quote: bessmertniy

Maybe check in Idlib?

It would be possible to apply the non-modernized version in Idlib, then certainly the Turkish-lord Sultan would have fulfilled the Sochi treaties in full in a long time. But it’s painful that our General Staff is afraid of the Western screech and provocations, while running into all new provocations and getting no less than a squeal of sanctions.

[Morglenn]

I don’t understand what: why take into service one more essentially MLRS if it is possible to develop thermobaric ammunition for the same Tornado or Hurricane-1m?

[Victor March 47]

Quote: alavrin

Exactly, there is no way to photograph the latest technology. And it is right.

What’s secret there? Wheel? Caliber of shells and their number in the package? This has all been photographed for a long time. If there is no photo, you do not need to rub the glasses. Show me a bouquet of flowers.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Morglenn

I don’t understand what: why take into service one more essentially MLRS if it is possible to develop thermobaric ammunition for the same Tornado or Hurricane-1m?

There is math. Which, the bitch, claims that the shock wave from an explosion in open space decreases in proportion to the fourth power of the distance. Thus, the super projectile will grind very close to the place of the explosion and leave it alive at a distance of .... meters. It is more economical and more efficient to disperse the same ammunition in mass, but in shells with a smaller caliber. The solid lesion increases significantly. Cassette tapes are prohibited. They are in this respect, the very thing. We have to circumvent the prohibitions with formal signs.

[Finn]

Here are the sock chassis.

[Finn]

Quote: Crystal of Truth

Here I am about

I then understood, presented simply unsuccessfully. Usually I enter into a discussion, but someone who doesn’t figure it out immediately sculpts the sleepers. It can be seen when a person writes nonsense. Maybe young. Youthful maximalism.