“Rushed to the feet of the enemy”: Turkish opposition on Erdogan’s negotiations in Moscow


The main opposition figure in Turkey, Kemal Kılıçdaroлуlu and his party members, launched a broad campaign against the country's President Recep Erdogan, taking advantage of the situation prevailing around the Syrian province of Idlib.


Speaking at the forum of the Republican People's Party (RNP) led by him, Kylychdaroglu sharply criticized the upcoming meeting between President Erdogan and his colleague Vladimir Putin. According to him, it is not worth negotiating with the head of state, whose allies killed 36 Turkish soldiers as a result of an airstrike.

Anyone who shoots my soldiers is my enemy. Why should I rush [Putin] at the feet? You ran to Putin in a state of panic

- cites the edition of Sözcü his words.

He demanded that Erdogan ask the president of the Russian Federation a question, as Moscow, while declaring military cooperation with Ankara, allowed this attack to be allowed.

One-member Kylichdaroglu, Engin Ozko, called the head of the country a “traitor”, who approved the massacre of millions of Muslims in the war-torn Syria. His words caused a fight in parliament, and he himself ended up under investigation: for insulting the president, a penalty of imprisonment of up to 4 years is provided.

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  1. SAG
    SAG 5 March 2020 03: 04 New
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    for insulting the president, a penalty of imprisonment of up to 4 years is provided.

    Here it is, and liberals who lack freedom in Russia need to read it out instead of prayer before eating.
    1. asv363 5 March 2020 04: 12 New
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      We must learn from experience, give real terms, even for insulting on the Internet.
      1. Eugene-Eugene 5 March 2020 05: 20 New
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        Now the calculations in social networks are worse than public statements. Remember the tragedy with children in the shopping center, how many manipulations and throws were and how instantly they were replicated. This is only at first glance the Internet seems to be a platform for pranks. Here it is necessary to observe the same culture of communication as in ordinary conversation. If someone wants to use the network for political struggle, then you need to be prepared for persecution. Or what kind of opposition is it that is trying to hide behind the screen? Mandela has been jailing for 27 years.
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              2. Ros 56 5 March 2020 08: 08 New
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                This is nothing more than your speculation and no specifics. This would have run through during the period of repressions, but the GDP itself said - you won’t wait.
            2. Chaldon48 5 March 2020 11: 48 New
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              They insulted everyone who bears the name Ivanov.
          3. The leader of the Redskins 5 March 2020 07: 08 New
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            And how do you feel about the inscriptions on the fences? Read carefully and "winds up"? Or just pass by?
            Here on the internet, just pass by ...
          4. Alex_59 5 March 2020 08: 00 New
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            Quote: asv363
            And how does this relate?

            How to insult any ordinary person.
          5. frolov andrey 5 March 2020 18: 33 New
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            I am not terrified of leberast. But? And if Putin is lying, or his environment, which is under his control (ministers, deputies of the same consort), there are so many moral undertones (there are worthy people who do not harm people), then how can I not count them as enemies of the people (individual representatives )?
            It would be necessary to separate the assessment and insults by concepts!
          6. avebersek 5 March 2020 21: 08 New
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            Calmly and without straining ..
        2. Slavutich 5 March 2020 08: 24 New
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          If there was a clear and open position of Power, then there were no fakes in social networks. And the governor’s arrogance about this, is not a reason? And who is punished for the tragedy? Hundreds of thousands of investigators from the UK did not find anything? Power breeds fakes with its incompetence, and then from a sore point to a healthy one.
      2. fk7777777 5 March 2020 06: 05 New
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        Well, here you can go very far, very far, in fact, for any stupid thoughts you can slap a term, and if a person is just real, and if he has only 2 classes of a church parish school, and if he is just a fan of garbage?
        1. Mavrikiy 5 March 2020 07: 08 New
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          For the bazaar, you need to answer. Even if you don’t know how to read.
          1. Alex_59 5 March 2020 08: 03 New
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            Quote: Mavrikiy
            For the bazaar, you need to answer. Even if you don’t know how to read.

            Well, Putin must also be responsible for his bazaar, right? He said that the retirement age will not change yet in power, then bam and plus 5 years. Someone answered for the bazaar? And the president is our chosen representative. And the demand from him is higher than from a birdie who can’t read.
        2. Bastinda 5 March 2020 07: 32 New
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          5 YEARS! "For an unrestrained way of thinking"
      3. SOVIET UNION 2 5 March 2020 07: 04 New
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        Question. What is considered an insult?
        1. asv363 5 March 2020 07: 24 New
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          Any statement that degrades the honor, dignity and mental abilities of the first person of the state.
          1. basmach 5 March 2020 07: 37 New
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            And if honor and dignity are absent?
            1. Mavrikiy 5 March 2020 08: 06 New
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              Quote: basmach
              And if honor and dignity are absent?
              Judging by komentom, I agree. You can’t give a damn about mother-motherland either, you have the right, since she’s not like everyone else.
              1. Leshy1975 5 March 2020 10: 24 New
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                Quote: Mavrikiy
                Quote: basmach
                And if honor and dignity are absent?
                Judging by komentom, I agree. You can’t give a damn about mother-motherland either, you have the right, since she’s not like everyone else.

                Citizen, stop fooling around. President Putin, this is NOT the homeland.
                And then it will be very embarrassing for many of you then, if of course there is still a drop of conscience when, after some time, after his presidency, "skeletons from his closet" begin to come out and what to get out. The motherland, through the cellist, does not hide money in offshore companies and does not make friends as billionaires, through the impoverishment of the bulk of the people.
                And a person can change the homeland, but it sounds wild - treason to the president.
                Homeland is all of us, with those who are dear to us, living in our country. And to equate the president with the homeland, especially not the most worthy leader in the history of the country, can only notorious slime-dogs.

                PS Without any respect for lizoblyudami.
            2. g1washntwn 5 March 2020 08: 08 New
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              Quote: basmach
              And if honor and dignity are absent?

              First, lay out evidence of the absence of such, and only then throw the glove in the face.
              Of course, this is if you intend to comply with the dueling code, and not poke a knife in the back.
              1. basmach 5 March 2020 09: 07 New
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                I will answer two comments at once.
                1. And what-GDP has already become a motherland. When you write, you need to think that.
                2. Regarding the evidence. There was a lieutenant colonel Putin, a member of the CPSU, who grew up in the USSR. He took the oath to protect his people. That is, you think that what happens to the people is protection. I don’t think so, and as an officer (and took the oath of 85) I believe that he changed the oath.
                There was a communist Putin who, when joining the CPSU, also took a kind of oath. Then he cheated on her too. Or not?
                Or maybe the drapery of the mausoleum (at the foot of which German banners were thrown) is also a "noble cause"?
                Or while marching past the troops in a solemn march, to sit and talk sweetly with the Chinese — without paying attention to these troops — not ONE sovereign NEVER in the entire history of Russia allowed himself such a thing. This is the honor and dignity or lack thereof.
                1. g1washntwn 5 March 2020 09: 44 New
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                  Subjective opinion is only your subjective opinion, but if as a result of saying it you inflict moral harm on someone, you have violated the law. I didn’t put it very abstrusely?
                  About the Oath - since you took it, you must remember how it begins. I will refresh in your memory:
                  I, a citizen of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics ...

                  Now answer your question where is this country and who ruined it. And it’s not at all necessary to interfere with Honor and Dignity in compliance with grand etiquette in one glass.
                  If you do not have facts - keep your opinion to yourself, the Internet is equated with the media and any of your "imha and pysy" is a publication where you are the author, with all legal consequences. Or are you for such an Internet where no one is responsible for the bazaar?
                2. CSKA 5 March 2020 10: 35 New
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                  Quote: basmach
                  I don’t think so, and as an officer (and took the oath of 85) I believe that he changed the oath.

                  Or maybe you changed your oath without protecting in the 91st the country of which you swore.
                  Quote: basmach
                  Or maybe the drapery of the mausoleum (at the foot of which German banners were thrown) is also a "noble cause"?

                  Do you all whine for the symbol of the Communists and try to make it a symbol of Victory? I do not care about the mausoleum, but do not care about the country. And if Putin makes Russia an advanced country in the world and at the same time demolishes the mausoleum, I will be truly glad. This is a noble cause.
                  Quote: basmach
                  Or while passing in a solemn march past the troops, sit and talk nicely with the Chinese, without paying attention to these troops

                  Do not carry nonsense already. We all have not seen the Parade. Also say that his back to him is.
                  1. basmach 5 March 2020 15: 57 New
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                    Do you know that the army has no right to interfere in internal affairs? Or not? And I served my captain’s stars in the 90s, when I served in the Far East, When they didn’t pay, there was nothing for the families to eat. When they survived, they could, but they dragged the service. But they did not change it to warm places in the city hall. And people like you poked your finger and yelled that we were parasites.
                    1. g1washntwn 5 March 2020 16: 39 New
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                      Quote: basmach
                      And people like you poked your finger and yelled that we were parasites.

                      Here is your example of an unproven generalized statement that many can personally perceive. Not one you served and pulled the strap during the collapse of the Union.
                      And in general, it’s not good to scream that everything around is “informal”, and I alone - D`Artagnan ...
                    2. CSKA 5 March 2020 18: 36 New
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                      Quote: basmach
                      Do you know that the army has no right to interfere in internal affairs? Or not?

                      What are you? So then do not drive Putin. And then he means the oath has changed, but as it concerns you, the army does not interfere in internal affairs.
                      Quote: basmach
                      I served my captain’s stars in the 90s, when I served in the Far East, When they didn’t pay, there was nothing for families to eat. When they survived, they could, but they dragged the service. But they did not change it to warm places in the city hall. And people like you poked your finger and yelled that we were parasites.

                      People like me, who did not serve in the army for a day, went to fight on the 14th, while people like you, the whiners who took the oath, sat at the TVs criticizing everything and everyone. And it was under Putin that the Russian Army rearmament and rearmament, it was under him that it became prestigious to serve in the army.
                  2. NordUral 5 March 2020 16: 13 New
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                    And if Putin makes Russia the foremost country in the world and at the same time at least demolish the mausoleum,

                    This is not even fantasy.
                    1. CSKA 5 March 2020 18: 38 New
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                      Quote: NordUral
                      This is not even fantasy.

                      Well, it’s clear that tomorrow we will not be the first economy in the world until the 6th. But this is also not fiction. It took 40 years for Japan to reach the modern level.
                      1. NordUral 5 March 2020 23: 21 New
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                        Sergei! We, or rather, not us, but by that 30 was enough to make dozens of the world's top economies out of the second half in the second half, moreover, as a raw materials appendage to developed countries (we are now a "developing" country).
                        And in my remark:

                        Erdogan smiles, he is satisfied, but sorry.
                      2. CSKA 6 March 2020 11: 38 New
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                        Quote: NordUral
                        Sergei! We, or rather, not us, but this was enough for 30 to make the country in the second half dozens of the world's top economies, moreover as a raw materials appendage to developed countries (we are now a "developing" country).

                        Not to them. Those who are now in power to those who ruined the USSR and ruled in the 90s have nothing to do with us either. And the term developing or developed is very relative. We are the 6th economy of the world. Now about the raw materials appendage. A raw materials appendage is a country that sells only resources. That's just all the resources traded.)))) And Norway, and Australia, and Canada, and many others. Yes, and the USSR was trading. And the US is increasing sales. This is normal. It’s not normal that no one in the world is whining because of this, while some of us cry. Moreover, what are the criteria to evaluate? Here we have 50% of our export resources, Saudi Arabia 90%, Norway 62%. Moreover, many countries selling resources exported software for 11 billion last year, machinery and equipment for 16 billion, weapons for 18 billion, and chemical products for 27 billion.
                        I do not argue that we need to increase the percentage of exports of high-tech products, which is being done, but the appendage indicates what to do and what to sell, but we don’t.
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                        Erdogan smiles, he is satisfied, but sorry.

                        He is satisfied because he was satisfied with the situation until the last hostilities. Yes, and we do not need escalation. What do you want? To start a war with Turkey? For what? Idlib?
                      3. NordUral 6 March 2020 13: 03 New
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                        Okay, you don’t want to admit the fact that we are a raw materials appendage, your will.
                        And as for the war - not to start a war, but to make the enemy understand that it is not worth fighting against us.
                        For me, it would be better if Russia didn’t enter Syria, but THIS needs it, that they sell gas, oil and other industrial resources cheaply to the right and left, burying billions of yards in greenery.
                        But let Syria, Libya and others protect their peoples.
                        We need to build and defend our country.
                      4. CSKA 6 March 2020 17: 32 New
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                        Quote: NordUral
                        Okay, you don’t want to admit the fact that we are a raw materials appendage, your will.

                        I wrote to you for what reasons we cannot be attributed to a raw materials appendage. Moreover, the term itself is a conspiracy theory.
                        Quote: NordUral
                        And as for the war - not to start a war, but to make the enemy understand that it is not worth fighting against us.

                        ))) Do you think they do not understand? If they did not understand this, then after the destruction of their columns they tried to attack Khmeimim. But at the same time, they understand that we also do not want to start a war.
                        Quote: NordUral
                        For me, it would be better if Russia did not enter Syria

                        Well, yes.)))) As far as I remember at VO in 2011, there were screams that Libya was leaked, as if Gaddafi was our ally. How many screams later there were, that we are merging the ATS, and there we have a base. Then, as they began to help the ATS, the cry immediately began that we were arranging a second Afghanistan. That cry in 2014, that the IS is spreading all over the East, but we are not doing anything, then we have forgotten the nagging. Some yelling. You and people like you already be consistent in something.
                        Quote: NordUral
                        but it is necessary IT, that right and left they sell gas, oil and other industrial resources at a cheap price, while burying billions of yards in greenery.
                        But let Syria, Libya and others protect their peoples.

                        Well this is just ridiculous. THIS is who? The power of ours? What is the benefit to them? And can explain what kind of "industrial resources"?)))))
                        Quote: NordUral
                        We need to build and defend our country.

                        So we build and protect. In the North Caucasus they defended, then its interests in Georgia and the Donbass, now on distant frontiers.
                      5. NordUral 6 March 2020 18: 56 New
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                        These and those from the 90s, one field of the berry.
                        They stole a string of us, and these ruin us for 20 years.

                        A developed or developing economy is not at all relative terms.
                        The post-war period was developed during Stalin,
                        albeit evolving. Under him and right after him, we competed on equal terms in the development of supercomputers, which is now not in sight.


                        About the raw materials appendage. Yes, there are countries to which fate has given only sands and oil under them, but this is not our case. However, about half the budget from the sale of oil, gas and what I clumsily called industrial raw materials - ores, minerals and the like.
                        And as for the fact that the States began to trade in raw materials energetically, it wasn’t from a good life, since the real industry, except for the defense industry, went to China and other countries with cheap labor. Plus it is a tool in the fight against insolent competitors in the United States.
                        About programmers and software,
                        everything is far from so joyful here. Hindus several times
                        we are superior, and the Russian guys work either in the West or in the West. I don’t need examples in this; my neighbor, a programmer on the site, left for Canada, worked first for hire, and now he has his own company.

                        On arms exports, I don’t see a reason to throw bonnets out of joy, I sold a lot of Soviet developments, but it all ends sometime.

                        As for the war - I think that they understand, but it is necessary that they learn it in such a way that there is no thought to bring down our planes and use artillery, as was done and is being done now. Not to mention the direct conflict.

                        I did not shout about Iraq and Libya, and ISIS spread all over the region all by itself.
                        Now about who benefits from this, that our guys are fighting in Syria.
                        I will answer briefly, as I think, of our oligarchy.
                        And about protecting the country it is necessary at home and together with neighbors, preferably good.
                        And in a country, power should be at least relatively honest and national.
                        Moreover, the North Caucasus (in my opinion) is not Africa, here I completely agree when they defended it, as in Georgia. It’s not very good with Novorossiya, but it’s very difficult here at all, wait and see, although in my opinion they threw it, beckoning the Russian world, and then backtracked, although not completely surrendered.
                      6. CSKA 10 March 2020 14: 42 New
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                        Quote: NordUral
                        They stole a string of us

                        Is the country a wallet? You don't seem to be a boy. What did you do in 1991 so that your country would not be stolen?
                        Quote: NordUral
                        and these ruin 20 years.

                        How? So that the standard of living has increased significantly over 20 years? So that life expectancy is growing? What made the Russian 6th economy of the world? The fact that gold and foreign exchange reserves increased from $ 20 billion to $ 570 billion? The fact that we have more gold reserves than in the USSR in the 70s? The fact that they destroyed the terrorists in the Caucasus? The fact that the army was rearmament? The fact that the Crimea joined?
                        I would like specifics. Give examples?
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                        Under him and right after him, we competed on equal terms in the development of supercomputers, which is now not in sight.

                        )))) Are you kidding? They didn’t even stand nearby. Now, of course, we are lagging behind in quantity, but not so many countries can produce them at all, but we produce them.
                        Quote: NordUral
                        However, about half the budget from the sale of oil, gas and what I clumsily called industrial raw materials - ores, minerals and the like.

                        40% and it has already decreased to 35%. Downward trend.
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                        And as for the fact that the States began to trade in raw materials energetically, it wasn’t from a good life, since the real industry, except for the defense industry, went to China and other countries with cheap labor.

                        It is a myth. Yes, they have metallurgical plants, and oil refineries, and chemical, and engineering. Mainly those that are targeted at most consumers, mobile phones or cars, are gone.
                        The fact itself remains that the USA, Australia, Canada, in the same way trade in different types of resources and do not shout that they are someone's raw materials appendage.
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                        Plus, this is a tool in the fight against insolent competitors of the United States.

                        How is selling US oil struggling with competitors, for example in electronics? And why are these competitors insolent?
                      7. NordUral 10 March 2020 16: 01 New
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                        What did you do in 1991 so that your country would not be stolen?

                        In the second half of the 80s and in the 91st, we were promised renewed socialism. Against this, I was not going to do anything and was for it.
                        And secondly, if you don’t see that the country is ours, and the future has been stolen from the children of grandchildren, then I am sorry for you.
                        As for the super, delve into the past, there it is all there. USSR and USA divided 1 and 2 places. The recession has gone with the course of copying.
                        Today: 93. Moscow State University - Research Computing Center
                        Russia Lomonosov 2 - T-Platform A-Class Cluster, Xeon E5-2697v3 14C 2.6GHz, Intel Xeon Gold 6126, Infiniband FDR, Nvidia K40m / P-100
                        T-platforms
                        - ONE! in the 500-t ranking for 2019!
                        https://www.top500.org/list/2019/06/?page=1
                        In the United States, defense industry enterprises and related entities remained.
                        40% and it has already decreased to 35%. Downward trend.

                        Yesterday, she also decreased this share. today has risen a little ...

                        How are they fighting - ask Gazprom and Rosneft, they will tell you, poor fellow.
                        And I don’t understand programming, I repent.
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                        Quote: NordUral
                        In the second half of the 80s and in the 91st, we were promised renewed socialism. Against this, I was not going to do anything and was for it.

                        This is called you left the responsibility.)))) I did not ask you how you felt about this update, I specifically asked you what you did in the 1991th year? Why, when it was already clear that the country was breaking up didn’t go out? Why didn’t they oppose the supporters of Yeltsin? Why didn’t they support the Emergency Committee?
                        Can you answer these questions or answer me instead of you?
                        Quote: NordUral
                        And secondly, if you don’t see that the country is ours, and the future has been stolen from the children of grandchildren, then I am sorry for you.

                        Sorry for yourself. I tell you the facts that have been done in 20 years, and you give me a set of words. Maybe all the same, bother to answer the facts. This is how the future was stolen from our children and what do you mean by these words?
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                        As for the super, delve into the past, there it is all there. USSR and USA divided 1 and 2 places. The recession has gone with the course of copying.

                        I read some material now. OK. I agree. Until about the mid-1960s, the development of computer technology in the USSR and the USA went at almost the same speed. But again, given that there were no computers at all then, you can call those computers supercomputers with a stretch. Then, unfortunately, the backlog began, mainly due to the backlog in microelectronics.
                        Quote: NordUral
                        Today: 93. Moscow State University - Research Computing Center
                        Russia Lomonosov 2 - T-Platform A-Class Cluster, Xeon E5-2697v3 14C 2.6GHz, Intel Xeon Gold 6126, Infiniband FDR, Nvidia K40m / P-100
                        T-Platforms - ONE! in the 500-t ranking for 2019!

                        According to data from November 2019, according to the number of systems in the country’s ranking, the United States has 117 supercomputers (out of the Top 10, 5 supercomputers are installed in the USA [3]. China has 500 machines in the Top 228. Japan has 29. France - 18, Germany - 16, Great Britain - 11, Canada - 9, Russia - 3 (29, 107 and 465 positions), India - 2.
                        And this is only noticeable for the Top 500 in terms of power, and not in quantity. In addition, where is the state’s fault? should it force private businesses to buy supercomputers? Why is this interesting?
                        Quote: NordUral
                        In the United States, defense industry enterprises and related entities remained.

                        Do you list metallurgical plants or engineering?
                        Quote: NordUral
                        Yesterday, she also decreased this share. today has risen a little ...

                        Of course, it is changing, but the downward trend is due to the ever increasing production of goods with high added value and their export.
                        Quote: NordUral
                        How are they fighting - ask Gazprom and Rosneft, they will tell you, poor fellow.

                        They are not poor fellow and do not fight with anything, this is not their task.
                  3. CSKA 10 March 2020 14: 45 New
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                    Quote: NordUral
                    everything is far from so joyful here. Hindus several times
                    we are superior, and the Russian guys work either in the West or in the West. I don’t need examples in this; my neighbor, a programmer on the site, left for Canada, worked first for hire, and now he has his own company.

                    You do not seem to be very versed in the IT field. Hindus are engaged in offshore programming. Software development for foreign customers. While ours are more focused on creating the final product. Although we are engaged in offshore activities. And in the West to the East we work. Therefore, IT export revenues are growing. And to the domestic market too. And I have much more examples than you, because I work in this area. They left in the 90s. Now it makes no sense, few people go, unless of course they have offered a job in Google or Apple, but with such offers they will leave both Great Britain and Japan. A person with knowledge of a programming language, for example, Python in the Russian Federation can earn a lot of money.
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                    Quote: NordUral
                    On arms exports, I don’t see a reason to throw bonnets out of joy, I sold a lot of Soviet developments, but it all ends sometime.

                    Of course, there were Soviet developments, for example, the Su-30, now we can sell the Su-35, then we will be the Su-57. Initially, they took as a basis, something, and then developed. And now we ourselves are developing the same S-400, Iskander.
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                    As for the war - I think that they understand, but it is necessary that they learn it in such a way that there is no thought to bring down our planes and use artillery, as was done and is being done now.

                    They did not use artillery against us. The plane was shot down and they themselves regretted it. I generally think it was a pilot initiative. Their thoughts were and will be, it’s another matter that actions cannot be decided.
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                    and ISIS all one spread throughout the region

                    He crawled to us. And when we started to fight him, he actually ceased to exist.
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                    I will answer briefly, as I think, of our oligarchy.

                    )))))) Can you explain how, for example, to Mordashev, the head of Severstal, or Alekperov, the head of Lukoil, is this war beneficial? That's just funny. The oligarchs directly gathered, came to Putin and said, start a war. It turns out to be beneficial to fight in the SAR. But as far as dill is concerned, such as you immediately say that it turns out that it is not profitable for our oligarchs to fight against Ukraine, because they saw they did not take Novorossia.
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                    And in a country, power should be at least relatively honest and national.

                    Honest, fair, etc. etc. A set of words. In all countries of the world, at all times, different people enter power.
                    About the national, I did not understand at all. And what is she like?
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                    although in my opinion they threw it, beckoning the Russian world, and then backward

                    What is backward?
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    as an officer (and took the oath at 85) I believe that he changed the oath.

    Now if all they wrote: "I personally believe that Putin has changed his oath, based on this ....."
    There would be no complaints, according to the Constitution, everyone has the right to express their opinion. And when they write: "Putin is a criminal and, in general," obscene> ", he’s imprisoned not in 4 but in ten.
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    Any statement that degrades the honor, dignity and mental abilities of the first person of the state.
    And if this is a statement of fact? Living on macaroni means normal !? Small pensions are for alcoholics and parasites !? Small patches for mentally disabled people !? No money! Is humiliation of subordinates normal? Are class superiority ideas normal? Criticism of leadership is unacceptable?
    1. Horon 5 March 2020 08: 35 New
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      My friend, you’ll already decide whether to be an insult or criticism. These are different things. Even for suspicion of insulting a forum participant, you can easily earn a ban, but you think it’s normal that you can easily insult a person from the outside. It is somehow strange to demand that our rights be respected while violating others!
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        strange to demand respect for their rights violating strangers!

        Typically, almost all organisms noted here with similar attacks (someone openly, someone clumsily veiled) are very reverent about their own carcass, while not representing anything.
        And, after all, it is worth someone thread from this party to catch a little hook - they immediately scream or slander. laughing Well, demon with her, with mold, now according to Borshchev:
        Of course, the civil war in Turkey is absolutely unprofitable for anyone, but to erd Erdogan is very beneficial.
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          very kind to their own carcass, while not representing anything from themselves.

          So Alexander, this is natural! These organisms laughing so they increase their self-esteem.
          Precisely because they do not represent anything from themselves, it is extremely necessary. laughing
          And there are 2 ways: either to do something useful and important, or to humiliate someone (well, at least try)
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            Quote: bk316
            either do something useful and important, or humiliate someone (well, at least try)

            Yes, Vladimir, everything is confirmed on today's branch about amendments - if you didn’t drop in, I recommend it: it’s very clear and funny. yes hi
    2. NordUral 5 March 2020 23: 24 New
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      For these and those below them, it’s absolutely normal.
  • tomket 5 March 2020 08: 47 New
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    Question. What is considered an insult?

    Have you just been born?
  • Paul Siebert 5 March 2020 05: 25 New
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    for insulting the president, a penalty of imprisonment of up to 4 years is provided.

    Here it is, and liberals who lack freedom in Russia need to read it out instead of prayer before eating.

    I agree, Seryozha, but such a Turkish alignment really inspires me!
    More broken Turkish hordes in parliament!
    More rallies on the street!
    Committee of Turkish Soldiers' Mothers, ay!
    Get busy, Turkish-minded, shake your country! laughing
    1. Polite Moose 5 March 2020 07: 20 New
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      Get busy, Turkish-minded, shake your country!

      If Erdogan is thrown off, a p-Soviet protege will most likely come in his place. We don’t have enough money for pro-Russian. Then the relationship will escalate for real. So, it would be better if the Sultan planted a couple of hundred gorlopans. Together with the Turks, we have long been neighbors.
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        in pro-Russian
        How many of these have already flashed and perished.
      2. avebersek 5 March 2020 21: 12 New
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        They decide to money, wrap up the construction of a nuclear power plant, wrap up the Turkish stream, block the flow of "tomatoes" and forbid our citizens to rest with them. Howl after 6 months in full (according to my calculations)
        They will howl at once, but they will live on pride for 2 months, then state subsidies for 1-2 months, then priest.
        Nothing personal is just a business.
        And there will be questions for the President ....
  • Odysseus 5 March 2020 05: 44 New
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    Here it is, and liberals who lack freedom in Russia need to read it out instead of prayer before eating.

    The devastation is in the head. It’s easy to notice even in this article that in Turkey Yes real opposition, which openly expresses its point of view. There are real elections there. Of course, there are also many restrictions. Turkey is a typical bourgeois dictatorship.
    But in Russia, where no uncoordinated political activity is possible in principle, the bourgeois dictatorship is simply a disproportionately harsher type.
    You set them as an example of cruelty. It's an oxymoron, such as dry water.
    If, according to your convictions, you need an even more brutal bourgeois dictatorship than in Russia now, you need to set an example and imitate Nazi Germany, but not modern Turkey.
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  • fk7777777 5 March 2020 06: 01 New
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    Yeah, so that they were already ready for dinner, after logging.
    1. SOVIET UNION 2 5 March 2020 07: 11 New
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      Take it wider. The enemy is not an oligarch!
  • Vasyan1971 5 March 2020 06: 52 New
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    Here it is,

    One cannot walk without the other
    His words caused a fight in parliament,

    Order, it either exists or not. Or, like a Novgorod veche on a bridge to a bridge across the Volkhov.
    1. bessmertniy 5 March 2020 08: 09 New
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      In this case, the Turkish parliament is very similar to the Ukrainian Rada. With insults and brawls. lol
      1. Vasyan1971 5 March 2020 08: 18 New
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        Quote: bessmertniy
        In this case, the Turkish parliament is very similar to the Ukrainian Rada. With insults and brawls. lol

        And there was the Novgorod Veche. They say that in ancient Athens, those more fights happened. And in our Duma Zhirinovsky famously noted. We are all human, we are all human.
        And, as I understand it, the mahach was not in parliament
        Speaking at the forum of the Republican People's Party (RNP) led by him, Kılıçdaroлуlu ...
        , and on the party party. Although, of course, also nice ...
  • Slavutich 5 March 2020 08: 28 New
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    So we have already been adopted.
    In Turkey, a dictatorship, far from secular, in about twenty years I see how society is moving away from the secularities laid down by the father of the nation - Kemal Ataturk.
    Perhaps - for the East, dictatorship is normal.
    1. avebersek 5 March 2020 21: 19 New
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      You're right. They understand only power.
  • Sarmat Sanych 5 March 2020 08: 59 New
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    The Turks’ preparations for negotiations in the Kremlin are going well, Erdogan spoke about how he sees the situation in Syria, after which a wild flyer started with everyone, chairs were flying, dust was swirling: https://mobile.twitter.com/Biz10TV/status/ 1235217734465728513
    Still, they picked up xxxlovirus, and this crap is more dangerous than coronavirus and death coppers are very likely. Atatürk pride-order inverted (s)
    The conclusion is simple: not everyone liked what Erdogan was up to. If he says this to Putin in a tone that is at least a little close to the ultimatum, he will have a big problem on returning home. Recepus ends, either political or physical. Whom svidomity choose as brothers, that God deprives the mind.
    WHEN THE RUSSIANS ARE SILENT - THE OTHER PANIC.
    1. avebersek 5 March 2020 21: 20 New
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      And you are right. Erdogan himself requested and came to the territory of the enemy. Already lost ground ...
  • Mytholog 5 March 2020 03: 07 New
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    It seems that in Turkey the “oppositionist” is also a form of mental disorder.
    Look at their tricks - Erdogan against their background looks even more or less adequate, despite all his delusional remarks.
    1. Uncle lee 5 March 2020 04: 11 New
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      a kind of mental disorder.

      Inadequacy in everything is a new world trend!
      Take a look at the English Borusik - he goes on maternity leave, his weird predecessor - Theresa ... The incomprehensible Kim, the tremendous Trump and a whole bunch of inadequate in Europe! I don’t remember everyone ... The trend, however ... fellow
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        And only "fabulous" - the guarantor of adequacy?
    2. SOVIET UNION 2 5 March 2020 07: 17 New
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      Yes, I would not say that Erdogan is raving! There is logic in his actions. Only not everyone understands it. Here are misunderstood and inadequate!
      1. bessmertniy 5 March 2020 08: 11 New
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        I wonder what the hell in Turkey repeat may be sweeter for us than Erdogan !? what
      2. avebersek 5 March 2020 21: 24 New
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        Which, enlighten, is very interesting. No, really. Is there a tactic or strategy? And your forecast?
        Get buns from the enemy’s unpreparedness - Well done, in a couple of days to become a victim and ask for US ammunition ??? What is it like? Gene headquarters to the wall. Blackmail of Europe? problems in Libya? Where is the logic?
    3. Slavutich 5 March 2020 08: 29 New
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      "Adequate" Erdogan still Russia will give a light.
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    4. bk316 6 March 2020 13: 06 New
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      It seems that in Turkey the “oppositionist” is also a form of mental disorder.

      Yes, it has long been known, this is how modern media influence the brain.
      Social networks allow you to build "information bunkers" with positive feedback.
      It’s like getting into a sect, only much tougher, the brain blows anyone.
  • LiSiCyn 5 March 2020 03: 13 New
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    The opposition there is worse than Erdogan himself. Seen tough, then the aircraft made. For ordinary soldiers, they wouldn’t boil so. what
    1. Oquzyurd 5 March 2020 03: 36 New
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      Not really. I was interested, I know the internal battles of the opposition and the authorities. The oppositionist Klychdaroglu wants to use the moment to score points, but he runs the risk, maybe it will collapse for him in the next election, since the topic is sensitive to society.
      1. asv363 5 March 2020 04: 00 New
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        Do I remember correctly that Erdogan can be at the top of power until 2029, if, of course, he wins the election?
        1. Oquzyurd 5 March 2020 04: 06 New
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          Yes. But except for the presidential in Turkey, all elections are important, both parliamentary and municipal. Competition is everywhere, they are gaining votes with their teeth and hands. The opposition is waiting for every misfire to take advantage.
      2. Interesting girls are dancing.

        Oppositionist Klychdaroglu wants to use the moment to score points, but risks, maybe it will turn into a collapse

        I think here you are right, this oppositionist is trying to "saddle the wave" or to urge Erdogan not to make concessions.
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          Klychdaroglu accuses Erdogan of everything. If Erdogan “sneezes”, he says, why did you sneeze? If he doesn’t “sneeze”, he says, why don’t you sneeze?) They say that “his goal is not to eat grapes, but to beat the gardener)
          1. bk316 6 March 2020 13: 10 New
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            They say about such people that "his goal is not to eat grapes, but to beat the gardener)

            Ha, too, surprised me, we have our own such a full swamp ....
            They must be able to keep in check. Well, yes, that Erdogan that Putin knows how.
            Still Trump to learn ..... laughing
  • Sofa expert 5 March 2020 03: 28 New
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    The main opposition figure in Turkey, Kemal Kılıçdaroлуlu, is Turkish Bulk
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      Rather Zhirinovsky ...
    2. Andobor 5 March 2020 08: 08 New
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      Quote: Divan expert
      Kemal Kılıçdaroлуlu is a Turkish Bulk

      Navalny to Kılıçdaroлуlu as to the moon, Kılıçdaroлуlu - the real opposition.
      A bulk, purely State Department project — they stop financing it from the outside — will disappear under a clean,
      he doesn’t even have a chance at least to be elected to the deputies.
  • shinobi 5 March 2020 03: 32 New
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    Here. We started to receive an adult response, got into it. We hoped that NATO / USA would intervene, did not ride. Let's see what negotiations will end today. But there is no confidence in the Turks. In theory, we need to put a couple of three "random" air strikes. Powerfully and precisely. the example of the Iranians, so that they become more sane.
    1. Levin 5 March 2020 05: 52 New
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      With a kind word and a fist you will achieve more than just a kind word. In this part of the world, this is especially evident. laughing
  • Zoldat_A 5 March 2020 03: 34 New
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    One-member Kylichdaroglu, Engin Ozko, called the head of the country a "traitor" who approved the massacre of millions of Muslims in the war-torn Syria.

    And who is "cracking down" over whom?
    When Assad hollows barmaley or they him - which of them are Muslims and which are not?
    And when Erdogan races Assad’s troops with the earth, does he cease to be “temporarily” a Muslim? Or Assad’s troops at this time become Buddhists?

    That's really something, and religion to somehow fasten on one side of this Kylychmylychdyrdych is obvious stupidity.
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      Igor, welcome! hi
      Quote: Zoldat_A
      That's really something, and religion to somehow fasten on one side of this Kylychmylychdyrdych is obvious stupidity.

      But why ? Assad - Alavite, Shiites mainly support him. You can try, shake.
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        Stas, hi !
        Quote: LiSiCyn
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        That's really something, and religion to somehow fasten on one side of this Kylychmylychdyrdych is obvious stupidity.

        But why ? Assad - Alavite, Shiites mainly support him. You can try, shake.

        And this is a good step towards religious wars.

        Europe experienced this in the Middle Ages already when Protestants had fun, with Komsomol enthusiasm, they slaughtered Catholics, and no less fun, on the contrary. But after all, on Bartholomew’s night, Catholics shouted: “Damned Huguenots! Beat them!” Nobody said that Protestants or Catholics are guilty of the destruction of Christians. It was the Protestant Huguenots who figured.

        At a minimum, this Kılım-mõchim-oglu would specify which Muslims are “right” and which are not. And so from his words it is clear that he does not blame Erdogan for the destruction of Muslims at all, but infidels who destroy all Muslims indiscriminately, and Erdogan is guilty of going to talk with the leader of these infidels.

        Not under Assad, he digs, but under Moscow and Erdogan personally. And in this bundle it becomes clear whose money he has lunch on. Because the mass consumer of information in Turkey is unlikely to sort out who and whom is destroying there. “Moscow is bad, but Erdogan sings along with her” - that’s all that that “opposition” needs.

        I draw conclusions by analogy with our "liberals." Our conversations are the same, and on whose grants they live - and to explain, I think, is unnecessary ...
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          And this is a good step towards religious wars.

          Igil this and "become famous." Yes, and the Taliban, in the beginning.
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            Quote: LiSiCyn

            Igil this and "become famous." Yes, and the Taliban, in the beginning.

            Greetings, Stas! hi
            Erdogan, in fact, claims to be the leader of the Sunnis
            Therefore, he crossed the religion forward, especially since the majority of Syrians are Sunnis)).
      2. SOVIET UNION 2 5 March 2020 07: 27 New
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        In the states of Trump, a representative of a rich minority! In Russia, Putin is a representative of a rich minority! Wealthy people support Putin! What's next?
    2. Levin 5 March 2020 05: 49 New
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      Well, tyk is the "right" Muslims, and there are not "right" ones. Which of them is who, is decided by the Turkish Parliament. bully
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      from this Kylychmylychdyrdych sheer stupidity

      Yes, this is the type of bulk Turkish, he likes religion fastens, corruption ....
      It’s just that in Russia the second is better for the electorate, and in Turkey the first.
  • Mountain shooter 5 March 2020 03: 38 New
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    The opposition there seems to be even more frostbitten than Erdogan. There is not a single shadow of doubt that Turkish soldiers have the right to fight in Syria with government forces ... They are not fighting actively enough. Erdogan is weak in the knees ...
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      Is Erdogan weak at the knees? And if you make a comparison of the leaders of the countries? Eun, Erdogan, Trump, Putin? Among them Putin is just weak in his knees! And the rest of the leaders, real men! If all leaders are bending their line, then Putin always caves in!
  • Voltsky 5 March 2020 03: 51 New
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    And if there is no difference, why pay more?
    1. Zoldat_A 5 March 2020 04: 47 New
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      Quote: Voletsky
      And if there is no difference, why pay more?

      And to wear a Christmas tree on the ears weak Or can they only crotch?


      Just now I noticed - and how funny the poster on the podium looks!
      Panopticon chronic ...
      1. Campanella 5 March 2020 16: 03 New
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        Why a rabbit with a bouquet? Take away breakfast?)))
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          Quote: Campanella
          Why a rabbit with a bouquet? Take away breakfast?)))

          This brought the one that clutches at different places.

          Or maybe it's love? ...
          To a bouquet, but for such places, but in public ....
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            They gave him a bouquet, he doesn’t want to surrender, not grateful?)))
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              Quote: Campanella
              They gave him a bouquet, he doesn’t want to surrender, not grateful?)))

              They, EDAKH, you will not understand ... Yes, for example, I do not need it.
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                Mysterious people these politicians ...)))
                It’s hard to bite them into ordinary people. Therefore, he usually puts them on a stake.
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      Where is Klitschko?
  • ivselim 5 March 2020 04: 04 New
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    And I thought that only in Ukraine they are fighting like that. And it is as it happens ...
  • Thrifty 5 March 2020 05: 18 New
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    In the main they are right, Turkey is an enemy of Russia, for it does not want to coexist peacefully with neighboring countries, it is fighting to seize foreign lands. Typical aggressor!
  • rocket757 5 March 2020 05: 19 New
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    With the competitors of the “Sultan,” it’s clear that everything is “normal.” .... why he climbed into this ambush, hoped to win something ???
  • Retvizan 8 5 March 2020 05: 43 New
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    Look how cynical this “oppositionist” is acting, it’s like pouring “crocodile tears” over the murdered Turkish soldiers and at the same time scolding Erdogan for going to Moscow to resolve the conflict, but if the Sultan does not agree with Putin, then the Turkish soldiers will continue to die, most likely in even larger quantities.
  • Levin 5 March 2020 05: 44 New
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    Like a balm for the soul. May these creatures kill each other. That Perdogan and his gang, that this Kylychdar ... or whatever it is, are facing each other. am
  • Odysseus 5 March 2020 05: 53 New
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    A useful article for understanding that the secular and pro-European opposition to Erdogan is much more tough on Russia than Erdogan himself. This is very few people understand. Therefore, Erdogan (like Trump) is really ours. This is the best real alternative for the Russian Federation.
  • Grits 5 March 2020 06: 11 New
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    What a noble mess. Damn, I'm sorry without knockouts ... But I'm already starting to like it.
  • rotmistr60 5 March 2020 06: 22 New
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    The main opposition figure in Turkey, Kemal Kılıçdaroglu
    The opposition is in Africa and the opposition. They use the same methods and use any situation. Today they shout why they rush to their feet, tomorrow they will shout why they did not go to negotiations. Today should put at least part of the points over I.
  • syndicalist 5 March 2020 06: 27 New
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    Ceased to understand the "patriots" in the VO. Gentlemen, are you now defending Erdogan?
    1. SOVIET UNION 2 5 March 2020 07: 41 New
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      Does Erdogan have no merits? If Putin acted like Erdogan, Putin would have had more supporters!
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        Erdogan is an enemy of Russia. He always was and will be. The more advantages he has, the worse for Russia.
  • Alex Justice 5 March 2020 07: 24 New
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    Is this a fight? Brownian motion. It was not Zhirinovsky’s case when he dragged a woman by the hair in the State Duma. Why was he not given a term for this?
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      Because the authorities have the right to beat slaves, even if they are women. That is what the president confirmed in his interview.
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      You can’t be so naive, it’s called parliamentary immunity. negative
  • Ros 56 5 March 2020 08: 34 New
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    Well, such fun, with beating the face of the face and pulling women by the hair, we also had, I remember now. Wolfovich lit, and many excelled.
    On the one hand, people are active in upholding their position, on the other hand, a bunch of gopniks, not deputies.
    But such pictures also say something.

    So better, this is still a big question.
    1. Campanella 5 March 2020 15: 59 New
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      Last photo is good. The girls and the sauna finished off the same powerful deputies!
  • sanik2020 5 March 2020 09: 52 New
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    In that region, Turkey’s interests are vital and Russia’s interests are monetary, that’s all politics.
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      Too simple you look at things.
  • bald 5 March 2020 10: 15 New
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    Saying between the girls, these are not negotiations, what to hide - recommendations.
  • Lord of the Sith 5 March 2020 13: 36 New
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    Something reminds me of this brawl ...

    Ah, Verkhovna is glad of Ukraine, or just I’m lying))
  • Campanella 5 March 2020 15: 57 New
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    Yes, the opposition is constructive!)))
    However, there are many fools in the opposition.
    It’s rude to work, is the southern mentality really so strong?
  • Fedor1 5 March 2020 18: 27 New
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    early negotiations have begun yet no achievements at the front, and are already being traded
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    Any foreign soldier who is in my territory without my consent, whose enemy I must destroy!
  • Sarkazm 5 March 2020 18: 57 New
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    Quote: Leshy1975
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    Quote: basmach
    And if honor and dignity are absent?
    Judging by komentom, I agree. You can’t give a damn about mother-motherland either, you have the right, since she’s not like everyone else.

    Citizen, stop fooling around. President Putin, this is NOT the homeland.
    And then it will be very embarrassing for many of you then, if of course there is still a drop of conscience when, after some time, after his presidency, "skeletons from his closet" begin to come out and what to get out. The motherland, through the cellist, does not hide money in offshore companies and does not make friends as billionaires, through the impoverishment of the bulk of the people.
    And a person can change the homeland, but it sounds wild - treason to the president.
    Homeland is all of us, with those who are dear to us, living in our country. And to equate the president with the homeland, especially not the most worthy leader in the history of the country, can only notorious slime-dogs.

    PS Without any respect for lizoblyudami.
    "How dare you ?! But He is our everything! Without it, we don’t sow and do not reap, without it we don’t grind grain and do not bake bread, it’s He is omnipresent like Santa Claus or Santa Claus to every bakery as gifts bring bread from the bakery, it is He who brings us heals, it sews and forges, designs and builds, maintains and pilots airplanes, manages ships and drives trains according to BAM, it teaches our children, feeds them and shoes bending for pennies at work, where all the rights of workers have long been forgotten, it's He launches rockets, it is He who saves our peace!"

    From the speech of the Korean Communist laughing
  • flicker 5 March 2020 19: 51 New
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    “Rushed to the feet of the enemy”: Turkish opposition on Erdogan’s negotiations in Moscow
    Brainless opposition. Firstly, Russia is not an enemy, but an economic partner, and secondly, “I didn’t rush to my feet ...”, but stepped back from the abyss, where Turkey (now it’s appropriate to use it) was pushed by enemies - enemies, represented by the Americans, through his agent Fidan, part-time head of Turkish intelligence.
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    Quote: flicker
    “Rushed to the feet of the enemy”: Turkish opposition on Erdogan’s negotiations in Moscow
    ... enemies, represented by the Americans, through their agent Fidan, concurrently, the head of Turkish intelligence.

    This and the like is inspired by: https://news2.ru/story/511452/ or are there any other considerations?
    I read a little about their special services, but the OYAK mentioned is a purse of the Turkish army and a solid wallet. The article says that Fidan climbed into it, and this could not or could not (after all, he organized a solid pogrom on the army) to not anger the Kemalists in the army, namely the army and the Kemalists in its ranks used to determine a lot in Turkey, they simply de facto managed, it is worth remembering only the history of military coups, but the landing of the same Erdogan.

    And the fact that the Americans are shy with their agents of the special services and state governments does not need to go far for examples, it is worth recalling our recent history. Yes, and now I think quite a lot of their agents of influence with us and just stupid moles, and Turkey was sitting tight on the Americans with kukan, so everything could well be, but even if not Fidan, then there are still a dozen, or even more officials , and politicians.
  • ZaharoFF 6 March 2020 10: 43 New
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    As “oppositionists” they resemble each other in their unhealthy behavior and the antics of the patients in the hospital.
  • radiootdel4 6 March 2020 11: 44 New
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    It looks like this Kylchyndryn is a cool pepper, how he swears