Quiet sufferer (Der Spiegel, Germany)

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It took Putin less than three months to reverse the few liberal reforms that Medvedev insisted on.

Quiet sufferer (Der Spiegel, Germany)


Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev, at the behest of Putin, turns off those liberal reforms that he advocated as president.

Dmitry Medvedev landed from a helicopter in a military town in the suburbs, on the landing pad waiting for him a car with tinted windows. The Prime Minister himself sat behind the wheel. It probably should have meant: I ask for direction. It was a gesture of a man who wants to prove to his people and himself that he still decides something, despite the fact that last spring he gave way to the presidency of Vladimir Putin without a fight. However, an attempt to demonstrate the power a little later turned into a new humiliation.

Seen in a military town annoyed Medvedev: crumbling facades and pictures of triumph left over from Soviet times. He asked how the reform of the army, initiated by him, and the transfer of the dilapidated housing stock of the military to municipal ownership, was progressing. “Not done,” muttered one of the deputy prime ministers who had arrived with him. In this case, heads should fly, Medvedev responded.
“Then dismiss me,” said a man from his retinue, Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov. Then, for all, he sharply stated to the prime minister: the task was impossible, and the corresponding memo was sent to Medvedev’s office a long time ago.

Replica Serdyukov was an act of open rebellion. The minister showed the head of the government that “he is no longer an authority for him,” said military analyst Alexander Golts.

Thus, the prediction of Igor Yurgens, who was among Medvedev’s closest advisors for a long time, is coming true in connection with the President’s demotion to premiere - say, Putin’s people in the government “tear him to pieces”.

A little more than two months after the castling in the Kremlin - faster than expected - the political weight of the former president has returned to previous levels. But at first, right after he assumed the presidency, this man inspired great hopes to both Russian liberals and the West, since he openly declared a “stagnation” in the country, “corruption in political institutions” and the need to give people freedom and opportunity breathe.

All these were just words, and such politicians as former government adviser Mikhail Delyagin were right. The latter, before others, called the son of a professor from St. Petersburg a “weak personality” without a real will to change. That is why in December 2007, Putin introduced him as his successor. After that, Medvedev appointed him prime minister. Putin didn’t even hang a portrait of the new president in his office; he doesn’t need this, he answered when someone asked the appropriate question.

Now Putin has entered the Kremlin again. It took him less than three months to reverse the few liberal reforms that Medvedev insisted on. Putin did this in a humiliating manner, but the politically castrated prime minister was silent.

Back in May, by order of Putin, Medvedev was elected chairman of the ruling party United Russia, which has an absolute majority in parliament. The Kremlin party, increasingly resembling the former CPSU, urgently pushed through all sorts of repressive bills through the Duma. And Medvedev, too, resigned himself without objection. It seems that the ex-president is ready to go on any betrayal of his own convictions, in order to hold on to the edge of power.

This was most clearly manifested when “United Russia” recently recently encroached on its chairman’s favorite project, the free Internet. As long as his voice means something, the state will not control the Internet, Medvedev emphasized when he was president.

Three months ago, he rejected censorship aspirations as “meaningless”. But on July 11, the parliament passed a new law giving the authorities the right to block access to sites without a court order. Officially, the Kremlin decided to declare war on child pornography. But this law creates an “infrastructure that allows censorship at any time,” stated media expert Ivan Zassoursky. The Russian resource of the network encyclopedia Wikipedia in protest closed at 24 hours. In addition, the protest was also announced by the company that owns the popular search engine Yandex (in May it placed $ 1,3 billion worth of shares on the New York Stock Exchange).

Medvedev, who himself writes a blog from time to time, again said nothing. One of his first decisions as prime minister was to provide ministers with iPad tablets. Since then, these devices during meetings of the Cabinet lie on the table, which should emphasize the premier’s modernizing will. In fact, they resemble Medvedev's promises of reform: beautiful, but flat.

As president, Medvedev took human rights activists and representatives of non-governmental organizations in the Kremlin and even weakened the strict legal norms relating to the registration of foundations and associations. However, now he accepts that Putin wants to make life difficult for them: the new law almost equates them to the traitors to the motherland. It obliges the environmental organization Greenpeace, as well as election observers from the Golos organization, to register as “foreign agents” - just because they accept cash assistance from the West. However, being called an “agent” in Russia is almost tantamount to recognizing yourself as a spy.

At a recent parliamentary meeting before the summer break, Putin initiated a tightening of the law softened by his predecessor as recently as December 2011. The norms of the law are directed against "slander" - and especially beat on journalists. Star commentator for Ekho Moskvy radio station Matvey Ganapolsky has already expressed concerns about the upcoming “liquidation of our profession.” Today, Putin has seriously limited, in particular, the right to demonstrate and indefinitely postpone the privatization of state-owned companies that Medvedev promoted.

In addition, he disrupts Medvedev’s plan for the withdrawal of the government apparatus outside the Moscow Ring Road - the idea behind it was that officials would not stand idle in Moscow’s traffic jams, as a result of which they would have more time to work.

But the main thing is that the president practically removed the oil and gas sector from the administration of Medvedev’s government, which accounts for half of budget revenues. From now on, the development of new fields and the choice of foreign partners fall under the purview of the “energy commission”, headed personally by Putin.

In early July, it turned out that Medvedev had failed and in connection with his intention to increase the readiness of the Russians to take responsibility. When the southern Russian town of Krymsk covered the seven-meter flood wave, killing more than 170 people, everything was as usual: the authorities, who had been waiting for instructions from above, did not warn the residents about the danger in time.

Political analysts predict that this autumn in Russia will be hot. After electricity prices, water supply and heating have risen since the beginning of July, discontent grows in the provinces as well. In Moscow, the majority of the population is already opposed to Putin.

No one else wants to pin hopes on Medvedev anymore; instead of sympathy, the country often feels only contempt for him. But the politician, deprived of the presidency, continues to engage in self-torture and remains true to his motto: "My task is to help Putin."
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  1. +15
    25 July 2012 15: 35
    This makes no sense....
    1. tverskoi77
      +17
      25 July 2012 15: 43
      This is not nonsense - it is a quality stuffing. Guys (authors) have been hunting for this for a long time.
      1. Facturin
        +17
        25 July 2012 16: 24
        It’s of course qualitative, but somehow without raisins. Something standard.
        1. +16
          25 July 2012 16: 42
          Quote: Facturin
          It’s of course qualitative, but somehow without raisins. Something standard.

          What can you do, the costs of conveyor production.
        2. +6
          25 July 2012 16: 46
          In the West, creativity is not encouraged, and sometimes punished ..
          1. +1
            25 July 2012 22: 57
            It is time for us to punish such creativity, and not just in the West.
      2. Teploteh - nick
        0
        25 July 2012 19: 48
        Quote: tverskoi77
        This is not nonsense - it is a quality stuffing. Guys (authors) have been hunting for this for a long time.

        Plant these ****** filthy need for such creativity for 15 years! am
        Glory to Russia!!! drinks
        Glory to Putin !!! drinks
        You can write ** how much will fit Orange Orange ******* - Toko *** to you. All this is useless. Judah. am
        1. Stary oper
          +5
          25 July 2012 21: 55
          Teploteh - nick
          "It is necessary to put these nasty ****** for such creativity for 15 years!"
          Are you serious? :)
          And still ... It seems to me that with your cries and slogans you are doing a disservice to Putin. For you have no idea what propaganda should be. She must be, excuse me, smart. Otherwise, propaganda has the opposite effect. I am not too difficult for you to express your idea? :)
        2. -3
          25 July 2012 22: 22
          That’s why everything was shouted, much of what was written is pure truth, and Medvedev, except as contempt, causes nothing more! Just recently, Prokhanov discussed the same thing.
        3. Odinplys
          0
          26 July 2012 02: 17
          Quote: Teploteh - nick
          Plant these ****** filthy need for such creativity for 15 years! am
          Glory to Russia!!! drinks
          Glory to Putin !!! drinks
          You can write ** how much will fit Orange Orange ******* - Toko *** to you. All this is useless. Judah.


          I fully support ... and the surnames ... of these "authors" ... speak for themselves ...
      3. +3
        25 July 2012 20: 39
        This is not delirium or stuffing, but the real Russian reality! I will be "pecked" for my statements about this article, but this is a fact. I didn’t like Medvedev, I don’t like Putin, I didn’t vote for either Putin or United Russia. I believe that Putin's team will lead Russia to collapse. Let me explain why. By its own laws, adopted to please certain individuals and structures, by drawing Russia into the WTO (on incomprehensible terms), by corruption, by the distribution of posts not on qualitative grounds, but by proximity to the "body." Many will agree with me on this. I am a supporter of the peaceful gradual development of Russia, but my attitude to the expression of the will of a certain part of the citizens of Russia (opposition), tightening of laws, tightening the screws cannot make everyone shout: "Okay!" It is necessary to negotiate, but the authorities do not want this. But the main protests are ahead and there is no escape from them. They will begin against the background of an increase in the cost of receipts for hot and cold water, heating, an increase in prices in stores in connection with this increase, with the final ban on the production of cheap gasoline, and many other factors. And then the authorities will not be able to accuse those who go out into the street that they are doing it with the money of the State Department and that they want to make an "orange" revolution. Pensioners, low-income citizens, which are almost a third of the country's population, will take to the streets. So, the article is not nonsense.
        1. Teploteh - nick
          -1
          25 July 2012 21: 11
          Quote: starshina78
          Pensioners, poor citizens will go out into the street

          Pensioners - we have long been starving to death - if that.
          And low-income citizens - you mean the Drunks, Homeless and Drug Addicts? And those - who in principle - do not want to work?
          Quote: starshina78
          So, the article is not nonsense

          No, it’s YOU who are carrying your Orange Judgment Nonsense !!! am
          People like you - you have to put smart people on the wall! am - Wang was found here, taken with Nostradamus. There is no Stalin on you - traitors! am
          Glory to Russia!!! drinks
          Glory to Putin !!! drinks
          1. +2
            25 July 2012 21: 58
            Quote: Teploteh - nick
            No, it’s YOU who are carrying your Orange Judgment Nonsense !!!
            People like you - you have to put smart people on the wall! - Wang was found here, taken with Nostradamus. There is no Stalin on you - traitors!
            Glory to Russia!!!
            Glory to Putin !!!

            Ostap carried.
          2. 0
            25 July 2012 22: 25
            So you don’t even want to think about it, you’re talking some kind of nonsense, what do you mean, the TV has washed your brain to such an extent ???
        2. +1
          25 July 2012 23: 08
          And the reality is that such "works" are on the stream and are replicated on the Internet. The fifth column is not asleep, and with the last of its strength it jerks its legs and splashes poisonous saliva. But in Russia it does not work like in the rest of the world, and therefore the State Department is in a stupor with bewilderment. This is the Russia of gentlemen pi-ND-osyata. Everything that you Yankees are up to in Russia is working against you.
      4. keylogger
        -2
        25 July 2012 23: 49
        exactly,!
        Why publish such scum without the corresponding comments ??
        Very strange.
  2. +9
    25 July 2012 15: 38
    Interestingly, the Germans in their Spiegel - Merkel also criticized?
    1. Facturin
      +11
      25 July 2012 16: 38
      What is there to criticize ??? I’m still trying to imagine her naked, it doesn’t work at all, the suit is full of cotton wool.
      1. Jaromir
        +11
        25 July 2012 17: 03
        Quote: Facturin
        I'm still trying to imagine her naked, it doesn’t work at all, the suit is full of cotton

        Well, my friend, you’re a sex killer of some kind! There once you see, for the rest - impotent.
      2. +3
        25 July 2012 17: 34
        Quote: Facturin
        a suit full of cotton.

        Do the aunts in the photo on the right have real tits?
        1. Oleg0705
          +3
          25 July 2012 19: 32
          Can you still tossed roasted seeds? bully
      3. -2
        25 July 2012 21: 58
        Facturinha ha !!!!! cheered !!!!! wink Yes laughing tried to imagine, vomiting !!!!! and the article from the category- mustache is gone, the Russians are coming !!!! wink
    2. Stary oper
      +2
      25 July 2012 22: 01
      And how. :) You will not envy her. And at the carnivals, they carry the doll in the form of Merkel, but quite indecent. :)
  3. +6
    25 July 2012 15: 38
    Hasty and one-sided conclusions based on the mentality and desires of Europeans ...
    1. Facturin
      +12
      25 July 2012 16: 29
      But the well-fed bellied burgher will now wait for bright events from dull autumn Moscow. They promised a revolution in Russia, with tanks, with cyber police, with blood flows and self-immolations, something like this ...
      1. +8
        25 July 2012 16: 45
        They will manage ... Everything will be quiet and within the law ... There will be no show, showmen fell ill, weakness in their stomachs ...
        1. Jaromir
          +9
          25 July 2012 17: 05
          Quote: ariy_t
          Everything will be quiet and within the law

          Only not within the framework, but in the cells of the law, then avtozak, stolypin and further along the stage. The evil romance of thug life.
  4. kav8206
    +1
    25 July 2012 15: 40
    Bullshit...
  5. Andrey64
    0
    25 July 2012 15: 43
    What is there to discuss then ?! You look at the author and everything will become clear where the wind is blowing
  6. +6
    25 July 2012 15: 46
    Of course, it is foolish to object to the obvious facts that the extraction of natural resources (oil and gas, mineral ores, wood, etc.) is one of the most important components of a national product and a significant share of exports. D.Medvedev admitted in February 2010 that "The fuel and energy complex provides almost a third of the country's gross domestic product and about 40% of all tax and customs revenues to the budget." Obviously, this contribution to the country's economy allows us to talk about a significant degree of dependence of Russia on the situation in world mineral prices. Meanwhile, is everything so simple?

    To begin with, it should be noted that often speaking about a third of the GDP pertaining to the fuel and energy complex, they forget that the real product of mining is approximately 9-11% of GDP. So, for example, in 2008, the share of extractive industries in the structure of GDP was 9% (see Fig. 1). However, the extraction of minerals multiplies a significant increase in GDP in other areas of activity - construction for the needs of the fuel and energy complex and other extractive industries, pipeline transport, processing plants, service and maintenance of machinery and units, etc. In total, mining also increments up to 20% of Russia's GDP. In this regard, of course, the importance of extractive industries in the structure of GDP should be noted. http://www.vmestepobedim.org/i/russia-na-igle/
    1. +4
      25 July 2012 16: 03
      Quote: viruskvartirus

      Of course, it’s foolish to object to the obvious facts that natural resource extraction

      Well, what facts did the Germans bring?
      1. Facturin
        +13
        25 July 2012 16: 35
        Alexander Romanov,
        Any nonsense, if it has the word Russia, is paid at a triple rate! Therefore, even Krymsk somehow sided as another killer fact. Is it strange even why Siberian fires were not claimed? ..
        1. Jaromir
          +8
          25 July 2012 17: 08
          Facturin,
          In short; you are afraid to engage in drugs, weapons and trade in protigospodi, deal with Russia-it is safe, but the money is almost the same.
        2. +5
          25 July 2012 17: 49
          Facturin,
          Zakhar, I also thought the other day, because almost every day I register a new outbreak in our area! From the smoke we take our children to the middle lane. There is a drought around! Visibility on the roads is not more than 100 meters. But there is no way to fly over taiga without a gas mask! And what about our bloggers and the Western press again, they miss such a chance to blame Putin personally! winked fellow Well, I think everything is still ahead! laughing
          1. -1
            25 July 2012 22: 05
            sergo0000, Duc, almost all of southern Europe is on fire belay - This is also Putin’s machinations !!!!! wink After all, our shoot has ripened everywhere !!! feel wink laughing
            1. Crumbumbes
              0
              26 July 2012 03: 25
              datur,
              Yes there Europe .. in America drought. see VV forbade the rain to appear there)))
  7. +14
    25 July 2012 15: 48
    As I understand it, two Fritz not finished off near Stalingrad, dashed off the article in the hope that in Russia they would notice Which Putin is a tyrant fool Eh, you wouldn’t get into our affairs, you have enough of your problems.
    1. Russian-
      +6
      25 July 2012 16: 45
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Which Putin is a tyrant

      Zadolbali already these ......... carry all the nonsense about Putin. Is it really not clear-there is no revolution and revolution in Russia and there will not be !!! Never!!!
      1. +4
        25 July 2012 16: 59
        Russ -,
        Quote: Russ -
        carry all the nonsense about Putin. Is it really not clear-there is no revolution and revolution in Russia and there will not be !!! Never!

        You write me back as supporters of Nemtsov, for complete happiness. You need to read and think carefully, then you will not have to write any nonsense. The Western press considers Putin to be a tyrant, and in this article they bring it to you so that you would understand that they are the West, it’s democracy, and we are a backward country that does not respect homosexuals and other delights of liberalism. Okay, I promise you will no longer write briefly and clearly, I will scribble thoroughly so that you are not nervous.
        1. Russian-
          +2
          25 July 2012 19: 18
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          You are still in Nemtsov’s supporters

          I didn’t think about that! feel On the contrary - I supported you - quoted.
          It was in my commentary about all kinds of Bolotny and Anal and other evil spirits — which pours mud on Putin and rivets all kinds of articles nonsense, but not about you.
    2. +4
      25 July 2012 16: 48
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Eh, you wouldn’t get into our affairs, you have enough of your problems.
      - maybe remind them of Stalingrad? Okay, they’re climbing, but what’s the matter? Really, they write liberal nonsense, they already got it
    3. +3
      25 July 2012 22: 06
      Alexander Romanov,no need to say ! wink Germans today American Mudis lowered below the baseboard !!! lol wink wassat apparently also at the request of the ubiquitous Putin !!! Yes Yes good
    4. Crumbumbes
      0
      26 July 2012 03: 27
      Alexander Romanov,
      yes what article is it .... this badfabulous tale ...))
  8. +7
    25 July 2012 15: 51
    he succeeded in everything in life, he has a son, family, good work, condition, favorite hobbies, world fame, he is an accomplished, successful person, not a sufferer, these are the authors of the article sufferers - Benjamin Bidder and Matthias Shepp
    1. Jaromir
      +6
      25 July 2012 17: 11
      Most likely this is a computer program such - Benya and Matthias.
  9. +2
    25 July 2012 15: 55
    at cho for clowns wrote such nonsense?
    Although everything is clear who else but Europe and its journalists can take care of a country like Russia and tell her what to do. Thank you not nada. as they say "dick zhurnalyugi !!!" "the earth is round to you right"
    1. +9
      25 July 2012 16: 58
      Quote: click80
      et Cho for clowns wrote such nonsense? Although everything is clear who else but Europe and its journalists can take care of a country like Russia and tell her what to do. Thank you not nada. as they say "dick zhurnalyugi !!!" "the earth is round to you right"
      - I read the memoirs of a major official, how these Europeans in the early 90s taught to live down Russia. According to their advice, the reforms have been carried out - we are still dissolving them. Siemens, in the guise of privatization, grabbed a powerful competitor - electrotyazhmash and ditched it. And Greenpeace successfully ditched the Soviet poultry industry for the successful promotion of Bush's legs. Here is the price of their advice; there is no more faith for them and will not be. Enough, Russia will live its own mind, and the regime will establish the most effective, taking into account the local mentality. And for those who like liberal - there is no iron curtain, a suitcase, a train station, a liberal country. What is the problem?
      1. Jaromir
        +8
        25 July 2012 17: 13
        Quote: aksakal
        . Here is the price of their advice; there is no more faith for them and will not be.

        And rightly so! There is no need to distract them from their main work; let their countries ruin now!
      2. Stary oper
        0
        25 July 2012 22: 13
        You forgot one small detail ... And who carried out these reforms and who allowed foreign firms to participate in privatization?
        1. Crumbumbes
          -1
          26 July 2012 03: 39
          You forgot one small detail ... And who carried out these reforms and who allowed foreign firms to participate in privatization?

          and you have missed one small detail that the state holds a controlling stake
          1. Stary oper
            +2
            26 July 2012 08: 47
            Crumbumbes
            "Siemens, under the guise of privatization, grabbed a powerful competitor - Electrotyazhmash and ditched it. Greenpeace successfully ditched the Soviet poultry industry to successfully promote Bush's legs. That is the price of their advice."
            I understand that in such a "patriotic theme", the flag of another country is a strong irritant ... :) But not so much as not to understand what I said, I hope? It was about those who allowed that predatory privatization. And that it is not necessary to shift their responsibility to others. That's all.
  10. Kaa
    +5
    25 July 2012 16: 01
    Something I do not enter, these Benjamin Bidder and Matthias Schepp have never heard about toys in a good and evil investigator, or just "turned on the fool"? And what about the unfortunate Krymsk, would they take up the heat in the United States, or a hurricane in Japan, or are they just unfastened pennies for spitting towards Russia?
    1. vladimir64ss
      0
      25 July 2012 18: 29
      Quote: Kaa
      do the penens unfasten?

      Pfenningi? Or did I understand everything correctly? And rightly so, why are they liberals.
    2. +5
      25 July 2012 18: 30
      In, I heard a speech not of a boy .. but, HUSBAND ...
      ...
      Guys, seriously, do you perceive a clearly custom-made article in Spiegel?
      I even wanted to cry at times.
      An evil bear with an acrimonited face - Putin ... tormenting a poor teddy bear - Medvedev.
      And, about the old Russian toy where two bears on the anvil are banging merrily - forgot?
      Vicious .... and kind ... investigators.
      ...
      Smart as a snake ... and not a fool to drink - the emblem of doctors.
      Kaa, change the profile picture.
      1. Kaa
        -1
        25 July 2012 19: 06
        Quote: Igarr
        Kaa, change the profile picture.

        What are your wishes? And I forgot about the toy, especially in the cartoon "Last year's snow was falling," these hammers would be for Bene Bidder, yes for Mote Shsheppu, ugh, you can't even say it, it's hot here, you know.
        1. +1
          25 July 2012 20: 06
          Yes, no ... just ... the emblem of the doctors ...
          And so the boa is sitting ... on fire ... alcohol, I hope.
          will sit ... a wise serpent ..Kaa .. in an embrace with a bowl (like an ancient sage .. Socrates, for example ... NO- NO, not good .. this t-grove was poisoned.
          Better ... Khayyam, ours, Omar ... take. He and me .. corresponds .. he himself was ... then still a walker. And as far as the part of the bowl ... deepthroat ... Two odnoflazhniki .. nearly did not sit.)
          ..
          There is a second option ... emblems ... - Mother-in-law eats ice cream.
          ..
          which is closer ...
        2. Odinplys
          -1
          26 July 2012 02: 25
          Quote: Kaa
          with these hammers, yes, to Ben Bidder, yes to Mota Szschepp, fie, you could not even pronounce, the heat is here, you see.


          They ... have one common last name ... Helmets
  11. CARBON
    +3
    25 July 2012 16: 06
    Germany itself is now at an impasse. On the one hand, it is the locomotive and economic leader of Europe, and on the other, it cannot pull a bunch of countries incapable of living independently. Today, United Europe is collapsing, and without any wars and disasters. It is not possible for some to live according to their needs, while others give according to their superpowers. Soon they will reach Russia and Germany more than others; Russia needs a stable country with great economic opportunities. The Germans should be deeply all the same tyrant Putin or not, if they want their Kinder to eat brot with oil.
    1. Jaromir
      +4
      25 July 2012 17: 15
      Quote: CARBON
      Kinder ate brot with oil

      Yes, a bolt to them throughout Germany, and not a brot with oil.
  12. танк
    +3
    25 July 2012 16: 18
    I do not care about censorship on the Internet, the main thing is that the law on homosexuals and other democratic joys has not been turned into reality !! wink They need to raise the circulation, so they write beautifully so that people eat
  13. Patriot
    -10
    25 July 2012 16: 19
    Absolutely.

    The NATURAL Nonsense of the Mare's Mare, IN WHICH ONCE AGAIN Putin IS EXTENDED BY THE SAVIOR OF THE NATION, PURPOSING THE WORK OF ITS PREDECESSOR-HALF-MAINTENANCE AND CORRECTING ITS ERRORS. EVERYONE EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND THAT THIS Mendel DOES EVERYTHING FROM Putin's TEAM

    FOR ONLY THE GERMANS MAY NOT UNDERSTAND THAT Mendel without Putin and step will not do.
    1. anchonsha
      +6
      25 July 2012 16: 51
      You yourself are a mendel, a henchman of the US ...
  14. NICK
    +1
    25 July 2012 16: 19
    I didn’t find anything terrible in the article, they just showed how they see our reality, and if that’s their opinion, as God says to them, I’m not a Communist at the party meeting, hysterically voting about this (like some) is just silly.
  15. +2
    25 July 2012 16: 26
    I read and thought, probably with InosMI took.
    Then he looked again at the title and authors.
    Phew, relieved. Well, what to take with the disease?

    And I already thought that this respected (without the bulldozer) site I was honored with that. Sorry for the bad thought.
  16. Evgeny B.
    +1
    25 July 2012 16: 29
    A miserable little article that wants to contrast Putin and Medvedev. They are in the West - the worse we have, the better for them. Envious eyes, raking hands! We would sit in their Euroland and keep quiet, so no, we have to make a mistake.
  17. +5
    25 July 2012 16: 30
    A Western-patterned reflection of their vision of our reality. I don’t even want to comment. Everything that is done to eradicate the fifth column is done for the good of the state and its future.
    1. +1
      25 July 2012 18: 03
      Quote: Victor
      A Western-patterned reflection of their vision of our reality.

      I’ve been thinking how to put it more precisely. It’s probably the best. +++ smile
      1. +2
        25 July 2012 18: 45
        Brothers, but I do not agree with you.
        What I read in the article ... - the goofy "yellow" press.
        If Spiegel is such a base ... he’s driving ... he means someone has invested quite serious money in this.
        Who! What for?
        Kill Medvedev? ......Not. This acts in the opposite direction.
        Create ..vicious image of Putin? ...Easy. But why?
        ...
        Moreover, with such a primitive throw-in ... only Novodvorskaya and Alekseeva ... breed.
        Something will follow. For example, I really did not like the indication of the terms .. two months, three months. Something ... such ... known to someone.
        Well, what ... we will wait.
        1. +2
          25 July 2012 20: 05
          IgarrHello Igor!
          We do not need revolutions already
          Enough for my age think! laughing
          1. 0
            25 July 2012 20: 26
            That's right, Sergey.
            Deliver, more than all sorrows .. from revolutions and worries ...
            Well, we’re just getting into it.
            ..
            Very unpleasant .. in spirit .. article. and calls - to intervene. To come down with criticism, start organizing ... protests.
            At one time, the daughter was fond of neuroprogramming, NLP. I taught her .. anticourse, so to speak.
            All these things ... from which hands begin to itch - all this .. "dark" coding.
            Unconstitutional act.
            Why here ... this, clearly a provocative article (compiled by SanSerif 7 of size 4 size ... in the basement of the 17 page ... Spiegel) is not clear to me. Till.
            We will find out a little later. But, obviously .. working out of something.
    2. Stary oper
      +1
      25 July 2012 22: 32
      The fact that many articles about Russia in the Western press give away stereotypes and are rather stereotyped is a fact. Another thing is sad ... Reading the comments on this generally worthless article, you see that our many comrades are not far removed from the stereotypes of profanity and a very blinded view of the Western world. Strange as it may seem, he is also different.
  18. kustarodinochka
    0
    25 July 2012 16: 33
    Bullshit from patriots.
    1. 0
      25 July 2012 17: 00
      Quote: kustarodinochka
      Bullshit from patriots.
      - Explain who you mean?
    2. +1
      25 July 2012 18: 05
      kustarodinochka,
      Germans- fool patriots?
  19. DERWISH
    +2
    25 July 2012 16: 40
    Medvedev’s reign - lost time and a lot of mistakes for our state; one position in Libya, what’s worth; let Medvedev have fun in his favorite twitter for president
  20. sxn278619
    +2
    25 July 2012 16: 53
    the president must be a strong-willed person. Gorbachev is a party intriguer, he failed everything. Yeltsin and drank. but whoever doesn’t drink, but he had to climb onto the tank and give the order to shoot at the White House. Putin is an ordinary colonel, but even in the beginning, in the absence of a team, he turned the tide with Chechnya. Medvedev mumbled, in his team some intellectuals like Dvorkovich.
    Will always be on the sidelines.
  21. anchonsha
    +1
    25 July 2012 16: 54
    Yes, let the author write as he wants ... Although they will not allow themselves to take agents of influence, but in Russia, as usual, they will ride on this topic. The fact that the West and the United States are possible is in no way Russia. Come on, understand them ... their politics ...
  22. igorek408
    +1
    25 July 2012 17: 17
    Interesting tablets in the ministry for what purpose))) on Skype to be debited? any tablet can turn on at any time and record everything that is happening around - it's 100%, respectively, now Western intelligence agencies can always find out where and what which minister said before? so this is a betrayal ... our people in power are completely devoid of reason and spit, but ordinary people understand this, so a wave of discontent will reach us ???
    1. slas
      0
      26 July 2012 00: 02
      Quote: igorek408
      any tablet can turn on at any time and record everything that is happening around - it's 100%

      Quote: igorek408
      Western intelligence agencies can always find out before anyone where and what minister said what?

      Well, normal in power?
  23. 0
    25 July 2012 17: 29
    They have their own mentality - they write their thinking as they see, how they understand. We have our own!
    But they will never be able to understand what and why we have so! In general, this is our purely personal showdown and there is nothing to meddle with our ideas.
    In the 41- 45m climbed: - they say repression, Stalin terran!
    They didn’t understand one thing - That Russian is good! - German death!
    Received in full! His sabaki biting stranger is not something to climb!
  24. +1
    25 July 2012 17: 33
    Anecdote in the topic:
    As psychologists have found out - who plays with what in childhood, he chooses such a profession: he had soldiers, he became a general, who had airplanes as a pilot, and Putin had a clockwork bear.
  25. Nikopol
    +3
    25 July 2012 17: 33
    Time will tell who was right and who was to blame. One thing excites me - is it really all that suits everyone that they so vigorously defend MedvePut? Or am I alone in doubting the adequacy of certain decisions of those in power. what
  26. Patriot
    -2
    25 July 2012 17: 34
    It seems to me that the Germans are forgiven, but do you really don’t understand that

    PUTIN THE GREATEST DESTRUCTOR OF OUR GREAT STATE.

    FACT, the "fruits" of his destructive work are visible everywhere, in all sectors and spheres of our country!
    1. +3
      25 July 2012 17: 39
      And why not yell like that ... the way to write everything with a capsule speaks of intemperance and disrespect. Your position is understandable, but because of the constant scribbling by the caps of the same words, they simply stop taking it seriously.
    2. +2
      25 July 2012 17: 53
      Quote: Patriot
      THE GREATEST DESTRUCTOR OF OUR GREAT STATE.

      Really great and really great.
      He has been working for so many years and cannot cope with what remains of the state of Raseisk after the great Gorbi and EBN.
      tongue
    3. Good Ukraine
      -1
      26 July 2012 02: 30
      For "Patriot"

      "Kankratney SKLIKHASOVSKY" smile
  27. +1
    25 July 2012 18: 10
    Not an article, but BAYAN. The most natural g ...
    And the smell is appropriate.
    Western stuffing, sanitary duck, etc.
  28. Ash
    Ash
    +1
    25 July 2012 18: 20
    What is typical, if, when the USSR surrendered to the West, the leadership still sang us songs about a beautiful, secure life and other goodies, today, with the further surrender of the country by fulfilling the obligations under the Marrakesh Treaty and the final "grabbing" of the remnants of socialist property, no one even hides behind any good motives It is clear that they decided to finally cut Russia up to save the world financial system, but everyone is silent about this.
  29. +2
    25 July 2012 19: 08
    Utu bye, they offended the echo of Moscow, they are trying to cripple Mr. Ganopolsky))) - there is a way !!!
    Although the Bear with his liberalism does not really like IMHO
  30. 0
    25 July 2012 19: 42
    Here they came from the opposition. You’ll have to filter publications.
  31. petrakov vowa
    +2
    25 July 2012 19: 53
    The article is more suitable for the InoSMI website - there is such a dofig vomit and more ...
  32. 0
    25 July 2012 20: 06
    To be honest, I didn't quite understand why the "fuss" is on the forum? The authors state the observed course correction after the change of the leader. So what? "A new broom sweeps in a new way." Here, too, America was discovered ...
    Quote: igorek408
    Interesting tablets in the ministry for what purpose))) on Skype to be debited?

    It also always seemed to me that the leader’s business at collegiate events was to listen and draw conclusions, and not to quote quotes. Then then there is a shorthand service?
  33. +2
    25 July 2012 20: 15
    The opposition between Putin and Medvedev is utter stupidity. It is clear that they are two boots of a pair. Foreigners have their own opinion, we have ours. Let us see where Vova will lead the country. If, in the same way as I think now, I cannot avoid collapse.
  34. Karmin
    +2
    25 July 2012 20: 19
    Quote: kulpin
    Nobody wants to pin their hopes on Medvedev anymore; instead of sympathy, the country often experiences only contempt for him.

    Here it is ,, not in the fight but in the eye ,,!
  35. +2
    25 July 2012 20: 46
    The dream of the liberals: blood on the streets of Moscow and a drop in oil prices.
  36. +1
    25 July 2012 20: 46
    I read the article and burst into tears. Medvedev is sorry.
    And the western man in the street too. Once again, they hung noodles on his ears.
    And if in fact, then Medvedev is probably a good guy, but he was clearly out of place as president. He would still have to play with toys, and he was entrusted with leading a great country.
  37. +1
    25 July 2012 20: 47
    Hulizh and authors who are AGENTS
  38. +2
    25 July 2012 22: 05
    The authors of the article state that they wiped their feet about Medvedev and indicated his place - rather unenviable - and what doesn’t suit Putin’s fans is unclear ...
  39. Eleven
    +2
    25 July 2012 22: 35
    Dumb article. Medvedev man without special talents has achieved the fact that he is the second politician in Russia!
    But the Germans write about some humiliation of Medvedev, this is stupid.
    1. IGR
      IGR
      +2
      26 July 2012 00: 22
      that the Russian is good - the German ... there is no buzzing.
  40. +1
    25 July 2012 22: 54
    "The norms of the law are directed against 'libel' - and in particular they hit journalists."
    Well, for sure, now you have to answer for your words - oh horror, but where to get the sensation? what
    1. ZKBM-BUT
      0
      26 July 2012 09: 18
      they don't take sensation - it comes by itself !!! and if this law somehow can limit the nonsense that journalists give out under the heading "sensation", then it is very great. it will be unnecessary to be distracted once again by a blizzard. and the word sensation itself will finally acquire its original meaning and weight. and not as now it is used only to attract the attention of eyes on the manitor, so that a person clicks the mouse, spent traffic on the loaded page and, as a result, has not yet received any sensation.
  41. Nikopol
    +1
    26 July 2012 01: 17
    People, I'm shocked by your comments. I will have a simple question - who watched or read messages on Twitter with the prefix "for clean elections" during the elections. (support for EdRo and Put)? I will reveal a secret - it was all paid for, and not weakly. (A friend told me). So, gentlemen - I am frankly sorry for you. You have been led around your finger, but you are only happy.
    1. ZKBM-BUT
      0
      26 July 2012 08: 44
      but I, on the contrary, feel sorry for you. you believe the magpie on the tail. and this information is passed off as a fact. if there are facts - go to court. Anyway, what's wrong with calling for a vote for a clean election ?. to mine a good, necessary and correct message.
      1. Nikopol
        0
        26 July 2012 22: 23
        Dear, I do not need to feel sorry. Leave your pity for yourself - you need it more, believe me. But to go to court - and when were the courts honest? And my informant cannot deceive me - of this I am 100% sure. And your confidence in the righteousness of the affairs of the president / prime minister - God forbid that they do for the country ... and not for yourself and your pocket.
  42. +1
    26 July 2012 02: 09
    And Putin and Medvedev read and laugh smile
    1. ZKBM-BUT
      0
      26 July 2012 09: 04
      ok if you laugh. otherwise it could be the other way around. After all, they plow like dad carlo, and some individuals are still pouring dirt on them with unexplained mud.
      1. Nikopol
        0
        26 July 2012 22: 27
        And what is the manifestation of "unreasonable mud"? Answer one simple question - the main components of Russian exports in 2000 and 2012? The answer to this question will be the most eloquent proof of their "backbreaking work".
  43. M. Peter
    +1
    26 July 2012 16: 06
    I personally did not like Medvedev for his too liberal view of some things, but what is written in the article is complete nonsense.
  44. 0
    26 July 2012 16: 09
    I endured reading this nonsense, but after reading it to: "... only because they accept financial assistance from the West .." I could not continue. Only because it is impossible to listen to such ur0d0v, because they carry nonsense without thinking about the meaning, and their "brains" are busy summing up the pieces of silver on their account after the fulfillment of this order.

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