Unsuccessful attempt: Turkish F-16 failed to shoot down Syrian Air Force plane

From Syria, reports have come that the Turkish air force made another attempt to attack the Syrian aircraft in the sky over the province of Idlib. Turkish F-16 came close to the air borders of Syria, but remained at the same time in the airspace of Turkey. From there, one of the F-16 fighters struck a Syrian air force plane.

It is stated that this time the rocket launched by the Turkish pilot did not reach the target. The attempt failed. Aircraft of the SAR Air Force, the type of which is not currently reported, attacked the positions of the militants in the area of ​​the city of Jizr al-Shugur and landed safely at the airfield. According to other sources, the attack was carried out when the aircraft of the SAR Air Force was over the city of Sarmin.

An air-to-air missile of the Turkish Air Force F-16 was fired from airspace in the vicinity of the village of Sarybuk (Turkey).

Recall that earlier the Turks managed to bring down two Su-24 bombers and one L-39 air force SAR.

Earlier in Turkey, they said that "Assad is in a panic because of the loss of several aircraft in a row." But the rumors of panic are clearly exaggerated.

Today, the militants tried to advance not only in the Serakib area, as reported by "VO" in news reports, but also in the Al-Bab area northeast of Aleppo. Terrorists are trying to break through in the direction of Nairab airfield (Rasm Abud) near the M4 highway. Syrian forces are holding back the defenses in this sector of the front.

The talks between the Turkish and Russian presidents in Moscow are scheduled for tomorrow. Ankara believes that Vladimir Putin should put pressure on Bashar al-Assad to take the SAA "to the position of 2018". In fact, this means that, in the version of the Turkish side, the Syrian army should again give to the militants Serakib, Maaret-en-Nuuman, Khan-Sheikhun, the western suburbs of Aleppo and other key settlements.

Comments

[Honest Citizen]

Fighter shot down a bomber - damn the news!
I would be surprised if it were the other way around.
Well, well done, the pilot managed to leave.
But the Turks did not get any better from this - they are firing from their territory, waiting for their nerves to pass.

[Sky strike fighter]

Photo of the Su-22 bend at the link below. Not all cats have Shrovetide.

During the confrontation in the air, the Syrian Su-22 performed an anti-missile maneuver and avoided being hit by an air-to-air missile over the city of Sarmin (north-west of Serakib). The Turkish F-16 fighter launched the missile, and was launched from Turkish airspace (Hatay Ave. ).

http://warsonline.info/vooruzhenie-i-tekhnologii/novosti/siriia/idlib-su22-040320-2.html

[Vitaly161]

maybe the Syrians damn it when they want

[Arhip smith]

What do you mean they want, it’s not worth thinking here that any other pilot, no matter what plane he flies and what kind of air force he belongs to, would do the same or am I wrong? IMHO, I see so from my VTOL couch :)

[Vitaly161]

everything is just that, the main start is to detect, during)

[Shuttle]

Quote: Vitaliy161

everything is just that, the main start is to detect, during)

It is important not only to detect, but also to learn how to get away from missiles earlier.

[smile]

Vitaly161
Vitaly, everyone wants to get away from the rocket - but not everyone can ...
this one, thank God is gone ..
I think the matter, of course, is not in God :))), but in the skill of this particular pilot and, possibly, in technology.
I wish all the Syrian pilots such professionalism.
Have you seen an inversion trace either from an airplane or from a rocket (not sure, but it seems that they were shown by Boris Rozhin), what followed? (I suppose, most likely a trace from the airplane)?
There is a tricky double loop, which was called an anti-aircraft maneuver ... most likely, it is ....... but on such an airplane to accomplish such a thing, in such a short time - this is a super profile .... I didn’t expect such figures aerobatics from the Syrians ...... God forbid our to do this on machines with such flight data, if necessary .... pah-pah-pah, if necessary.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Photo of the Su-22 bend at the link below. Not all cats have Shrovetide.

During the confrontation in the air, the Syrian Su-22 performed an anti-missile maneuver and avoided being hit by an air-to-air missile over the city of Sarmin (north-west of Serakib). The Turkish F-16 fighter launched the missile, and was launched from Turkish airspace (Hatay Ave. ).

http://warsonline.info/vooruzhenie-i-tekhnologii/novosti/siriia/idlib-su22-040320-2.html

Affiget, our Su-17s are still fighting! True, I only found M2 and M3

[figwam]

Quote: Doliva63

Affiget, our Su-17s are still fighting!

They had M3-M4

[Doliva63]

Quote: figvam

Quote: Doliva63

Affiget, our Su-17s are still fighting!

They had M3-M4

The most reliable aircraft of the Afghan war. But really, how many years have passed.

[artifact]

Quote: Doliva63

Quote: figvam

Quote: Doliva63

Affiget, our Su-17s are still fighting!

They had M3-M4

The most reliable aircraft of the Afghan war. But really, how many years have passed.

I don't remember which of the American pilots said that the SU 17 is as stylish and reliable as the Harley Davidson

[Doliva63]

Quote: artifact

Quote: Doliva63

Quote: figvam

Quote: Doliva63

Affiget, our Su-17s are still fighting!

They had M3-M4

The most reliable aircraft of the Afghan war. But really, how many years have passed.

I don't remember which of the American pilots said that the SU 17 is as stylish and reliable as the Harley Davidson

There was a better Su-25 in terms of failure raid, and yes in terms of style, especially the S-52u spark, humpbacked like a cobra before an attack. Well, it is, nostalgia for youth.

[basmach]

I was on a business trip in 95, on M4,

[Doliva63]

Quote: basmach

I was on a business trip in 95, on M4,

In my opinion, by then they had already started shooting them or even removed them? I myself am not in the army since the 91st.

[Vitaly161]

Caesar Kunnikov entered the Bosphorus like ... this is the hype with the deliveries, what is interesting is that ...

[McDonnell Douglas]

At the request of many commentators from the VO website, atomic bombs are being brought to Caesar Kunnikov to strike Turkey

[Vitaly161]

yeah, the RF Armed Forces, without the need to drag such a sea, enough Swans to raise Engels

[artifact]

Quote: Vitaliy161

yeah, the RF Armed Forces, without the need to drag such a sea, enough Swans to raise Engels

Yes, and "calibers" with special ammunition are probably available. you just need to be completely inadequate to think about using in such a conflict

[huntsman650]

Bad Boy)))

[Gado]

They didn’t guess, your brains are taking you to correct yours and did not let others write nonsense.

[Arhip smith]

Quote: McDonnell Douglas

At the request of many commentators from the VO website, atomic bombs are being brought to Caesar Kunnikov to strike Turkey

Why, you rushed out without any atomic bomb :)

[seregatara1969]

Not atomic but rubber reinforced by depleted uranium.

[dauria]

At the request of many commentators from the VO website, atomic bombs are being brought to Caesar Kunnikov

It is only a pity that it will be difficult for many to catch the irony ..

[Grits]

Quote: Vitaliy161

Caesar Kunnikov entered the Bosphorus like ... this is the hype with the deliveries, what is interesting is that ...

The Syrians most likely simply do not have factories for the production of shells. And now they need oh, how many.

[Dreamboat]

Apparently "someone's" electronic warfare is working or warned about the shelling in time, was ready.

[figwam]

Erdogan wants to collect more trophies before negotiations. Well done Syrian pilots, although the chances of such an airplane are few.

[PSih2097]

here a little more interesting ...

Turkish F-16 came close to the air borders of Syria, but remained at the same time in the airspace of Turkey. From there, one of the F-16 fighters struck a Syrian air force plane.

in general, it’s WAR / Casus Belli ... And if ours were overwhelmed / didn’t want / betrayed concern and arranged a tomato war, then the Syrians have nothing to lose ...

[Loess]

Quote: Honest Citizen

I would be surprised if it were the other way around.

It happens not like that.

However, in the history of the Mi-24, there are two cases of truly outstanding air battles that do not fit into the scope of the work usual for the Mi-24.

We are talking about cases where the Mi-24, designed primarily to combat manpower and enemy equipment, shot down ... a supersonic fighter. The first case, which occurred in the Bekaa Valley in Lebanon back in 1982, still causes controversy among military historians. The Syrian Air Force pilot on the Mi-24V helicopter, who began combat work on the positions of Israeli armored vehicles, carried out the mission in the usual mode for military aviation, until the Israelis called for help a pair of Phantom fighters.

The fighters included in the air-to-air missile area gave themselves out as radar emitters, and the Mi-24V, as if in a Hollywood movie, made a sharp turn and literally “on the go” captured Israeli aircraft and launched missiles. The first R-60 hit the front hemisphere of the Israeli fighter, and the second landed in the left wing area of ​​the led fighter of the Israeli Air Force. The unusual aerial victory of the Mi-24V over the Phantoms was the first air clash in aviation history when a combat attack helicopter was able to defeat two supersonic fighters at once.
The second case was not at all repeated by any country in the modern history of combat aviation. The Mi-24D of the Iraqi Air Force during the Iran-Iraq conflict in 1984 was able to hit the same F-4 Phantom plane, although it was already the Iranian Air Force.

[Krasnodar]

Oriental tales ...))

[vik669]

So the sofa is more visible then.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: vik669

So the sofa is more visible then.

Have you lived in the Middle East for a long time?

[Dali]

Quote: Krasnodar

Oriental tales ...))

Where is Israel ?!

[Krasnodar]

That's why I know

[Dali]

Quote: Krasnodar

That's why I know

Those. Confirm that Israel is in trend ?!

[Krasnodar]

As for the military, there are fewer fairy tales than they say here, because everyone was serving in the army without exception, including girls and over the bullshit, which everyone would drive on local TV))
Non-fables talk about victories over the female sex, about their successes in business or vice versa - if they rise, they suddenly sharply “get poorer”

[abrakadabre]

During World War II, a case was allegedly recorded when a German plane was shot down from Katyusha. Pure luck. According to the description, as I remember from the book: a lot of equipment and troops accumulated at the crossing. Including Katyusha division. At this time, German planes appeared on the shaver and went to work on the ground flying along the road and going directly onto the bridge. The calculation of one of Katyushas, ​​using the combination of the attack line of aircraft and guides, launched one RS, which landed in an enemy aircraft flying by. The remaining planes stopped the attack and retreated.
I don’t know how much this bike is or really. I read in a book. Long.

[Fantazer911]

Turkish policy, do not care, shoot only in the back, they are however brave!

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Honest Citizen

shoot from their territory

Bastards', what is it ...

[Maz]

Bashar al-Assad about the plans of the Syrian Arab army after the liberation of Idlib:

"From a military point of view, the priority task now is Idlib. It is obvious that Erdogan threw all his forces, of course, at the behest of the Americans. There is no doubt about this, because after the liberation of Idlib, our goal will be to liberate the eastern regions. I have repeatedly said that From a military point of view, Idlib is a front line. They did their best to prevent its liberation, so that we could not move to the east. But in parallel, in order not to wage war in the eastern regions, we are in contact with the people living there. them dislike, anger and resentment. "

[Vitaly161]

I’ve already seen it, a meat grinder is going on there ... God forbid, but on the other hand, how long can the baboons be able to attack at this pace? Well, they have not endless reserves so, and their nerves are not iron

[Maz]

Syrian news agency SANA published photos of the Turkish UAV Bayraktar TB2, shot down by SAA in Idlib province. and another convoy drove from Turkey there too.

[zenion]

If not for comments from Ukraine, then the Turks would not even know that they shot down a plane. Just like in the joke where Slam won a million in a casino. It turned out that not in the casino, but somewhere in the apartment. And not a million, but a hundred rubles, and did not win, but lost, moreover, they played twenty-one, that is, a point.

[Mountain shooter]

To make a statement that firing across the border will cause a counter-attack by the airborne forces, and the shooting will end immediately ... Turks are frostbitten (or rather Erdogan) but not so much ... And it seems to me more and more that the destruction of Turkish Drones could not have done without our fighters . Painfully cleared the sky ...

[cost]

F-16 failed to shoot down Syrian Air Force plane

A huge desire - that this happens regularly

[Oquzyurd]

The media write that the Syrians tried to shoot down the F-16. They fired a S-200 missile, the plane dodged the attack.

[Dali]

Quote: Oquzyurd

The media write that the Syrians tried to shoot down the F-16. They fired a S-200 missile, the plane dodged the attack.

A reference to the studio ... !!!

shl
And then it turns out that he didn’t dodge ... but ... suffered a severe mental trauma and catapulted due to the psychological impossibility to continue the further flight !!!

[Oquzyurd]

https://lenta.ru/news/2020/03/04/f_16/ Лента Ру

[NordUral]

Let’s listen that tomorrow the guarantor will tell the Turk presumptuous.

[vik669]

What does he say - peace friendship tomatoes!

[NordUral]

There are such suspicions, by analogy, we will wait, although the chances of a tough rebuff are minimal, but still.

[Vitaly161]

nothing will change, 99% that they don’t agree, the Turks have already poured so much money and blood that they won’t backtrack, otherwise the shame of the 2nd army in NATA, they will shove the UN and everyone else, and there’s nothing to cover the Guarantor with like the Turks

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Make a statement - that firing across the border will cause a counter-attack of the airborne forces, and the shooting will end immediately ...

Figs knows him. Jews, too, have been reproaching such a scheme for a long time and receive no answer. Weight categories still rule. This must be taken into account.

[Mouse]

"Air-to-air"

air and rammed ....

[cniza]

Only ruined ...

[novel66]

on the earth, too, all kinds of dirt!

[Mouse]

Novel,
As you politically correct put it ...
Shit !!!

[novel66]

I'm from a science city ... Vasya

[cniza]

And there that everything only gets dirty?

"Assad is in a panic over the loss of several planes in a row."

Such a situation, according to the Turks, leads to dirtying ...

[novel66]

Eastern people are often unrestrained: not a word or a tear ... nor this business, apparently, either

[cniza]

Today we will see, though we will not be shown how the Sultan will spin and try to swing rights ...

[novel66]

why should he spin? all the world! led the division into Syria and no one chucked

[cniza]

As he entered it and will display it, the information is very suspicious ... to enter a division is not a "cross road", I hardly believe ...

[Levin]

Pilot Su-22 well done. Probably a pro.

[NordUral]

Probably a pro

Just a pro!

[artifact]

Quote: NordUral

Probably a pro

Just a pro!

I just really wanted to live

[Dali]

Quote: artifact

I just really wanted to live

Does this cancel the pros ?!

[artifact]

Quote: Dali

Quote: artifact

I just really wanted to live

Does this cancel the pros ?!

this is the best motivation.

[NordUral]

To survive and win you must be a pro.

[artifact]

my regards You have correctly supplemented.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: artifact

I just really wanted to live

Everyone wants to live!

[Alexey from Perm]

this is success

[RVAPatriot]

Every day is not Sunday. I look forward to the fall of at least one b.s. Turkish Air Force, there will be a noble sobering slap in the face for the Sultan. On earth received, it remains to receive a belt in heaven.

[artifact]

as far as I remember, the Turks already have minus 1 aircraft, though it was still at the initial stage, at 11-12m. then the Syrian air defenses seem to have been shot down over the sea in Syrian airspace .... can the Turks take revenge?

[ABM]

There was a case, a "phantom" with reconnaissance equipment

[Thrifty]

Erdogad needs victory at all costs! Before traveling to Russia, he needs to turn the tide of the war, so the Turkish TTF-Turkish terrorist groups will only increase the onslaught!

[Vitaly161]

near Sarakib I dug in 25th (they really dig trenches!) they won’t take it until tomorrow, they’ll only drive the broads for slaughter

[businessv]

Quote: Vitaliy161

they won’t take it until tomorrow, only to slaughter the broads

It would be nice if it will be so! It’s okay to kill, the more the better, it’s their choice.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Vitaliy161

near Sarakib I dug in 25th (really digging trenches!)

The first time I hear that the Syrians are digging trenches ... How difficult it was to force them ... But this reduces the losses during shelling by an order of magnitude.

[Vitaly161]

not only you are surprised, but it’s so, apparently an order to keep Sarakib and its environs, exhausting the enemy, the human resources of the Babohs are also not endless, like the technology, and the Syrians are only driving the technology, the Bosphorus is already passing the 3rd BDK

[Nastia makarova]

they only do the broodsphere by tractor

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

they only do the broodsphere by tractor

What do they do with a tractor?

[Grits]

Quote: Vitaliy161

near Sarakib I dug in 25th (really digging trenches!)

have we really been taught and forced?

[abrakadabre]

have we really been taught and forced?

Maybe life finally made? Yes, even an example of ours or the Iranians in the neighborhood.

[Livonetc]

Ankara suggests.
They have it in Moscow.
Turks get rid of guarantees and joint patrols?

[Hey]

The Syrian pilot most likely received a message about the attack. Therefore, he adequately reacted and avoided defeat. And the rocket was almost at maximum range and could no longer energetically maneuver with a more maneuverable aircraft compared to those previously lost. L-39 low-speed. And SU-24 if back to the rocket, then consider the corpse. You cannot detect an attack from the plane itself unless someone tells you from the outside. Our SU-24 was also struck from behind.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: MUD

Our SU-24 was also struck from behind.

the Russian side was shot down by Sidewinder, a missile with TGSN. STR does not respond to it - the rocket does not radiate anything, and it can only be detected visually. It is not surprising that the pilots did not notice anything before the rocket hit.

If they fired from a long distance (and they write it that way), then an UR with an RLGSN (probably AMRAAM), the pilot of the attacked aircraft should have learned about the attack as soon as he was targeted. Even if the rocket was launched in a passive mode, according to the INS, then it would have been issued by its own "head" looking for a target - from a shorter distance, but it would have been issued. Unless free software is disabled, of course

Saved by the fact that the distance is large, the rocket is about to run out and cannot energetically maneuver

[helilelik]

Modern stations have a direction finder, as it is called. Sees a working engine in the ultraviolet spectrum.

[Thunder]

maybe evaded MANPADS missiles ..

[mitroha]

Congratulations to the Syrian pilots. Despite everything they work.
Something tomorrow is preparing for us. All the same, I would like for the negotiations to come to an understanding, but on the terms favorable to us and Syria.
PS And the scale on the cards that are laid out would certainly be desirable

[Dali]

Quote: Mitroha

Congratulations to the Syrian pilots. Despite everything they work.

I wonder who minus you ... so that the earth would be glassy to him ...

[Tochilka]

He looked at the Lost Armor in the section on Syria. On March 1, Su-24MK was recorded in loss and there are seven muddy photos of something falling from the sky. Where are two more aircraft (Su and L)?

[Vitaly161]

they didn’t have time to get the cameras, and so, the fragments of the Czech showed exactly, the 2nd Su were recognized by the Syrians

[rosomaha]

why not use for us (and the Syrians) the A-50 to control the air space and warn the Syrian air force about the attacks of the Turks. On Syrian planes to place electronic warfare systems and long-range weapons. Use our airplanes and EW helicopters. Also use long-range weapons of the ground forces - ARS artillery, MLRS, OTRK. those. to remove support facilities from under attack so that they can constantly work at the request of the ground forces. Why should we be terpers? In the end, we are there legally, and all the rest are jackals.

[Vitaly161]

SAA already has Tochka-U launchers, we deliver missiles to them, about the electronic warfare systems for CAA aviation, do you propose upgrading the CAA fleet? without it how to not realize it

and about the A-50 in the air, the SAA, they won’t give anything, absolutely, the Turkish Air Force is constantly patrolling its border, everyone knows this

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Vitaliy161

A-50 in the air, SAA they will not give anything

don't tell me. One side is able to "enlighten" the whole of Idlib and capture a decent chunk of Turkish territory. Situational awareness in modern warfare is paramount.

[Vitaly161]

I know what it can be, what's the point of this? the movement of the Turkish f-16s and our radars see, we can’t work, because the partner ..... the only A-50 can help fight more effectively with UAVs

[Rus_87]

If the rocket did not self-destruct, it would be nice to find it in the State ICD Pennant for study ...

[McDonnell Douglas]

Before tomorrow's meeting between Putin and Erdogan, I decided to put on an event ...
The bookmakers have designated the following position after the meeting of the heads of state:
80% of the war will not be.
15% will win the Turks
4% will win Russia
1% other (disasters, alien invasion, etc.)

[akarfoxhound]

Has caravan grass come in?

[Paranoid50]

Quote: akarfoxhound

Fenced grass

It does not smoke - it is software, and already reflashed (a week ago it was already demolished under a different name).
True, it still has a "loopback" on some topic. And so on all branches.
This time, apparently, they decided to leave it for fun for the time being. If you get tired, they will tear it down.

[dauria]

True, it still has a "loopback" on some topic.

Ugh you! And I really decided that the man impromptu with such a subtle irony .... I looked - for sure. Just a set of suitable for any topic Hochm .... Sorry.
We'll have to take it as a rule - "carefully look at the profile."

[Kurare]

Be so kind and enlighten: where is such a bookmaker, in which country?

[Dali]

I join ... write the address and name of this bookmaker !!!

[McDonnell Douglas]

Moscow, Sandunovskiy per., 3, p. 1

[businessv]

It is stated that this time the rocket launched by the Turkish pilot did not reach the target. The attempt failed.

So that's great! Maybe something has already been invented from the cunning Turks?

[Alex_K]

https://yandex.ru/turbo?text=https%3A%2F%2Friafan.ru%2F1256223-istrebitel-f-16-vvs-turcii-uvernulsya-ot-rakety-s-200-pvo-sirii&utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=mobile&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fyandex.ru%2Fnews&brand=news
Rather, it seems like the truth: f16 dodged the c200.

[Vitaly161]

Yeah, Turkish f-16 over Sarmin, believe Yandex more

[Alex_K]

Yandex only reprinted this news. The original source was RIA Novosti, a highly respected publication. I am more inclined to believe this version than the one which claims that the su22 could dodge a missile with f16, complete nonsense, it is possible from MANPADS, but not air from air missiles. If such a flying coffin like su22 falls into the scope, then the 100% lid of this coffin will close. The stories of such meetings in Libya, Iraq, Iran, even in India, although there was not even an ancient specimen there, ended deplorably for this type of equipment. The story does not recall the opposite.

[Dali]

Quote: Alex_K

I am more inclined to believe this version than the one that claims that the su22 could dodge a missile with f16, complete nonsense

Source in the studio ... !!!
A reference ... please ...

[Alex_K]

I did not search for RIA today, but Arguments and Facts, also no less biased publication, please, by the way, there is a link to TASS: https://yandex.ru/turbo?text=https%3A%2F%2Faif.ru%2Fsociety% 2Farmy% 2Fsiriyskie_sily_pvo_atakovali_tureckiy_samolet_f-16_pri_pomoshchi_sistemy_s-200 & utm_source = yxnews & utm_medium = mobile & utm_referrer = https% 3A% 2F% 2Fyewandex.ru &% 2Fnews
And fake news about su22, except for couch experts, as it is, no one has cast a spell.

[Vitaly161]

did you read the news? Do you know what a missile defense maneuver is? But what do the Turks launch from a decent range, you know? Well, now a cherry on the cake, do you know that explosive rockets at a maximum distance are limited in maneuver?

[Alex_K]

You are probably writing about Russian missiles, and those that are on f16 are just geared to extreme distances, look at the experience of Israel, and the ability to detect a missile at su22 is not even worth discussing, and so everything is clear.

[Vitaly161]

thanks neighing in my voice, 110-120km, these are medium-range missiles, and no matter where they stand, the rocket will not have the energy to actively maneuver in the final section of the flight, do not disgrace, they look like a clown

[Alex_K]

I didn’t talk about 110-120 km at all, the sight system itself determines the possibility of defeat, if it captures, then the pilot can press the start, and then it's a matter of technology. Once again, I tell you that in the situation with the su22, if a v-in rocket was launched through it, he has practically no chance to leave. There are dozens of such examples over the past decade. It’s only the catapult that saves, which two walk far away in the Syrian desert, since the catapult worked. And our Su24 even somehow did not dodge. Therefore, do not carry nonsense. As for the detection of missile launch, there is a whole training section in the training of pilots where they are taught how to visually determine the launch of MANPADS, especially helicopter pilots. According to the memoirs, Rutskoi said that he preferred to fly on the Su24 in the dark for there is a chance to detect a missile sms.

[Vitaly161]

I have not read more delirium, "sight system"? After such a pearl, any dialogue with you is absolutely meaningless

[Alex_K]

Correctly pointless, no arguing against the facts, I understand ...

[Vitaly161]

You have facts? Complete ignorance of the materiel on the topic, yes, the facts are zero absolute

[Vitaly161]

and for reference, it’s more difficult to dodge MANPADS, the pilot’s maneuver time is much less

[Alex_K]

From MANPADS, thermal traps with a turn are used, this reduces the possibility of defeat, I meant it.

[Alex_K]

And in 50% the pilot sees the launch of MANPADS, respectively, can take retaliatory actions, unlike air-to-air missiles. Once again, I note that the chances of determining an attack and something to be done on aircraft such as Su22 are practically zero, one hope for luck.

[Vitaly161]

at what altitude does the pilot see the launch of MANPADS in 50% of cases? near the ground? or at 2km? maybe at 3x or at 7mi? (just kidding, they don't hit it high) and by the way about Su 22 see the picture

[impostor]

Cat from home - mice to dance. Fight in the Turkish Parliament

[Vladimir61]

Ankara believes that Vladimir Putin should put pressure on Bashar al-Assad to take the SAA "to the position of 2018".

With the appetites and arrogance of the Sultan, can they also give them the keys to the apartment?

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: Vladimir61

Ankara believes that Vladimir Putin should put pressure on Bashar al-Assad to take the SAA "to the position of 2018".

With the appetites and arrogance of the Sultan, can they also give them the keys to the apartment?

Something modest at all. You can request a return of borders even as of 1900.
Ankara sets itself not real tasks. The train left.

[Vlad5307]

Ankara believes that Vladimir Putin should put pressure on Bashar al-Assad to take the SAA "to the position of 2018". In fact, this means that, in the version of the Turkish side, the Syrian army should again give the militants Serakib, Maaret-en-Nuuman, Khan-Sheikhun, the western suburbs of Aleppo and other key settlements.

As if the Turkish "crush" would not break on this. Acceptance of their terms is tantamount to the surrender of not only the SAR, but also the Russian Federation.

[Separ]

He would still butt with the Su-7BKL ..

[75 Sergey]

Interestingly, but they fly to attack without cover?

[Gosha Smirnov]

it is believed that the Su17 aircraft (export Su20 / 22) should be able to stand up for themselves. They have 2 small-radius missiles in their arsenal. But the bomber isn’t so hot with it, and the fighter isn’t at all by modern standards .

[core]

like everyone is talking about 2 su-24s, but there were no real photos.

[Alexander Sharapov]

At a meeting of the Turkish parliament, a brawl took place after opposition representatives spoke insultingly about Erdogan.
https://twitter.com/TurkishIndy/status/1235214997753561094
Svidomo probably bit the Turks .... infectious, however

[v.biseroff]

name of the pilot name in the studio! Bravo!

[Dali]

Quote: v.biseroff

name of the pilot name in the studio! Bravo!

It’s not worth it ... until ... the time comes then ...

[McDonnell Douglas]

د الظاعبد الالعزي.ع العظي

[Chingachguk]

Well, at least someone explain why some have the right to shoot from their territory at someone else’s, but this evil can not be brought down? This is some kind of nonsense .....

[Gosha Smirnov]

A rare exception. The drying pilot is just handsome and lucky. For f16 this is generally an easy target.

[Vitaly161]

having the skills of anti-missile maneuvers, provided that the launch was not seen at the last moment, and also considering that the Turks are working at a distance from their airspace, the chances are not pretty bad as we see) but again, be in place of the 22nd L- 39 it would fly

[Lord of the Sith]

Here are the links. Sending gifts from their territory is like juvenile hooligans who pour pedestrians out of the window of their own apartment, sincerely convinced that no one will get them in the apartment.

Recently, this cowardly tactic is increasingly used by all sorts of muddy personalities on fu-16.

And the Syrian pilot see Lee Xi Tsyn))

[LiSiCyn]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

And the Syrian pilot see Lee Xi Tsyn))

No, we are on such a junk, do not fly ...

[Krasnodar]

Quote: LiSiCyn

Quote: Lord of the Sith

And the Syrian pilot see Lee Xi Tsyn))

No, we are on such a junk, do not fly ...

Hi!
I haven’t seen you here for a long time)) Order a normal Falcon and Miss Sarajevo 2016

[LiSiCyn]

Hi Albert!
Work and family affairs did not give time.
There was a reader, not a writer.

Quote: Krasnodar

Order Normal Falcon

No way! We are patriots, domestic manufacturer.

[Krasnodar]

Well, well - take the Yak-40 and Miss Poshekhonye 2017))

[LiSiCyn]

Yak-40, yes, in a business class ... And next to it, even Poshekhonye, ​​but up to 30 ... I would bomb the Maldives or the Dominican Republic.

[vladseven]

We need to transfer to the Syrians one su-35 or su-30, with our pilot with su 24 who shot down the Turks. Provide all conditions for defeat f-16. Let him return the favor for the commander.

[flicker]

Nothing, we train Syrian pilots, put them on the Su-35, put them Iskander and Caliber: things will go well, things will go more fun.

[vladseven]

What a trifle. Immediately su-57, submarines, and yars. Let them anneal)

[flicker]

submarines and yars

There is a problem in this case and then suddenly they will recapture the Golan Heights ... well, or break up
but generally think correctly

[vladseven]

rather break what is behind them)

[abvgdeika]

As if Voronezh did not fly

[sannyomd]

Quote: NordUral

Let’s listen that tomorrow the guarantor will tell the Turk presumptuous.

Do you think they will share with the world about the content of their conversations?

[kava61]

What a fright they should leave in their country, who are the Turks in Syria, aggressors and no less. I think that Putin will hint to Erdogan that he is not climbing his own stall and that this is not his country and violates UN laws.

[svoit]

Quote: Vladimir61

With the appetites and arrogance of the Sultan, can they also give them the keys to the apartment?

The Sultan’s everything is in order with this, he has every right, the agreement has not been canceled, so it’s valid.
Who prevented them from getting out is still unknown.

[Pastor]

It can be seen that one hundred Turks are afraid to enter Syria and take Israeli tactics, striking from other territories. The attack on such aircraft will give them a reason to yell about the attack and call on NATO countries. Can Syria announce the downing of any threatening means ?! It’s a pity there isn’t enough strength, but the return flow from Turkey will have to be grabbed.

[Klingon]

Quote: Honest Citizen

Fighter shot down a bomber - damn the news!
I would be surprised if it were the other way around.
Well, well done, the pilot managed to leave.
But the Turks did not get any better from this - they are firing from their territory, waiting for their nerves to pass.

so it is clear whose school is God's chosen. here are the Turks - jackal

[bald]

With this litmus test, Putin will have to remind him who and what for what.

[qaz]

A Russian flyer was a campaign, not otherwise.

[Yury Siritsky]

They are like bandits, shooting around the corner.

[Playerman]

the Syrian army must again give the militants Serakib, Maaret-en-Nuuman, Khan-Sheikhun, the western suburbs of Aleppo and other key settlements.
C what a fright ??? Brain for brain drove ???

[EvilLion]

First, they reported immediately about the Su-1.
In-2. Fy, fso freet, the wonderful AMRAAM missile cannot miss, because no maneuvers can be saved from modern missile radars and with overloads of 60 thousand g.