The first female crew of the Raptor patrol boat formed at the Black Sea Fleet

The first experimental female crew of a patrol boat of the Raptor type was formed as part of the Black Sea fleet. Currently, he has arrived in St. Petersburg for training at the Joint Training Center. This was reported by the press service of the Ministry of Defense.

As Admiral Nikolai Evmenov, Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy, said on this occasion, the first experimental female crew of three was formed as part of the Black Sea Fleet. The decision to form the first female crew as an experiment was personally made by Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu.

The crew will undergo comprehensive training in St. Petersburg, which will last until April 27, after which it will return to the Black Sea Fleet, where it will begin to perform combat missions as the crew of the Raptor patrol boat.

During the training, the crew will master the technical means of the boat, including the power plant, radio equipment, communication and navigation systems, and will master the skills of controlling the boat. Training will take place, including at the training complexes of the center

- the press service quotes the words of the commander in chief of the Navy.

The Raptors are designed to patrol the coastal zone during the ice-free navigation period at any time of the day at a distance of up to 100 miles from the base. They can be part of the BDK, UDC with placement on board or in the docking chamber. The patrol version of the boat is designed for 20 paratroopers. It has 2 Pecheneg machine guns and a remotely controlled combat module with a 14,5 mm machine gun. The main tasks also include ensuring the safety of ships on unprotected raids, intercepting and detaining small targets, delivering troops (up to 20 people) with full armament, and participating in search and rescue operations. Boat speed - up to 50 knots (depends on the height of the waves).

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[horus88]

What for?
are they ready to act tough if necessary?

[Lopatov]

Quote: horus88

What for?
are they ready to act tough if necessary?

The first division of the 1077th anti-aircraft regiment, Stalingrad. Read about it at your leisure.

[horus88]

and we are planning a total war? Or do you think that today's people are equal to those that were near Stalingrad?
And my question is much simpler: are they ready to go to ram the next ukrovoyak who want to play a dirty trick? Take them on board?
And how will ukrovoyaki behave when they see that the ladies' crew is attacking them?
Because there are no other enemies expected from the Black Sea Fleet boats, God forbid.

Personally, I would be interested to hear about the experience of the Israeli women, how they act on their own in difficult situations, how do the barmels react to them in battle? Or do mixed teams participate in the database and situations like a company of ladies do not happen against a crowd of bearded men?

[Piramidon]

Quote: horus88

and we are planning a total war?

But you need to be prepared for it. It will be late to prepare the crews when ...

[Malyuta]

Quote: Piramidon

But you need to be prepared for it. It will be late to prepare the crews when ...

That is, you offer all women to distribute military tickets and make them liable for military service?

[Piramidon]

Quote: Malyuta

That is you offere distribute military tickets to all women and make them military liable?

This is not my suggestion, but your speculations that you are trying to hang on me. I did not offer anything. But I welcome the voluntary desire.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Malyuta

Quote: Piramidon

But you need to be prepared for it. It will be late to prepare the crews when ...

That is, you offer all women to distribute military tickets and make them liable for military service?

Walking along the path of Israel with a truly UNIVERSAL military duty - for both men and women - is, in my opinion, somewhat wrong. And living in the same barracks as in the American army is also, in my opinion, an excess. But if ladies want to serve as adults, then why not? Only selection should be more closely, especially psychological.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Malyuta

Quote: Piramidon

But you need to be prepared for it. It will be late to prepare the crews when ...

That is, you offer all women to distribute military tickets and make them liable for military service?

I have a mother, a graduate of the old Soviet years of the Omsk Pedagogical Institute, was liable for military service. With military ID and nurse qualifications. And the graduates of medical institutes in Soviet times were liable for military service - that was the order of things.

And then - a woman in the army - it's not just a nurse or a doctor. And who will transfer pieces of paper in the combat units? Myself would such a service - God forbid! But someone needs to do this. And who will cook cabbage soup in the dining room? And they are all liable for military service.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: Malyuta

Quote: Piramidon

But you need to be prepared for it. It will be late to prepare the crews when ...

That is, you offer all women to distribute military tickets and make them liable for military service?

"- Take care of women,
Take care of women
Beware of women ... "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbTjV0eibGg

[Per se.]

Quote: Starover_Z

Take care of women
Women beware

[kit88]

Yeah, here you would be sent to the parking lot with a dozen female mechanics instead of full-time men. On the one hand, the young lieutenants are certainly fun, and on the other, who will turn the bolts for them and change the wheels .... all by themselves, gentlemen officers themselves.

[Piramidon]

Quote: kit88

Yeah here you would be seconded to the parking lot with a dozen female mechanics instead of regular men

Firstly, I didn’t drink with Brudershaft and I did not give cause for familiarity. Secondly, a young representative of the boorish generation, I don’t need to rub here what you have a very vague idea about. At one time, when you weren’t a sperm, I also had THREE women mechanics subordinate. And they performed their functions much more responsibly and accurately than many male mechanics-conscripts (especially immigrants from the southern Union republics). The result depends on how the boss subordinates teach. I was confident in my female mechanics, but from conscripts who served 1,5 years (of which 0,5 years were ShMAS) and at the same time I saw each of them 1 time per week (outfits, guards, hozrabot), I gladly got rid of it. At least to the orchestra, at least to the headquarters.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Piramidon

At one time, when you weren’t a sperm, I also had THREE women mechanics subordinate.

I have all the posts of women radiotelephone operators. I was tormented by horror ... Everyone who was seconded, sat at the headquarters, appeared in the ranks once every half a year, on a combat drill at the beginning of the training period ...

But the division paramedic yes, it worked. Tough aunt. Demebla was a little afraid of her.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Spade

I have all the posts of women radiotelephone operators. Tormented, horror ...

So that’s how you taught them.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Piramidon

So that’s how you taught them.

To learn, you need to see them. In the eyes.
Once again, seconded.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Spade

To learn, you need to see them. In the eyes.
Againseconded.

You were the first to write that they were seconded. The wives of our officers and ensigns served with me.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Piramidon

You were the first to write that they were seconded. The wives of our officers and ensigns served with me.

You again do not understand.
A lady is sitting, for example, at the rear headquarters, or in the service of the troops at the division headquarters. And they are listed with me, holding a position in the staff. Appears "seconded" Through the order.

Then, already during the second war, they put things in order, transferring such to the commandant, RMO, etc.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Spade

You again do not understand.
A lady is sitting, for example, at the rear headquarters, or in the service of the troops at the division headquarters. And they are listed with me, holding a position in the staff. Appears "seconded" Through the order.

Now I understand. I also had those on staff. It is necessary, for example, to some sort of chief secretary (typist, artist ...), but he does not have a full-time cell for her. So he formalizes it as a mechanic in my group. True, I didn’t let such close to the materiel. Only in the form of excursions, under vigilant supervision. To at least know what they are assigned to. But they did not bother me. Sit somewhere in the headquarters - and let them sit.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Piramidon

But they did not bother me.

It's harder for me.
If there is nobody in the place of the radiotelephonist in KShMke, this is a problem.

[Svarog51]

Yeah, I also sent the deputy head of the management at the emergency to KShMke. And try not to get in touch (army HF which firefighters did not use) - I’ll deprive the prize. Fulfilled, and where to go, the family must be fed. Thank you instruction was ... and the captain received it.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Svarog51

I’ll deprive the prize

8))))
It’s even more difficult for us. Even in peacetime, once every half a year, live fire. Plus pokatushki on battalion exercises for the infantry. The radiotelephone operator burst - and that’s it, put out the light. Up to the corpses.
So that....

[Svarog51]

It’s simpler here, we then went to the oil spill. Well, there were spare channels. The trick is that the commander ordered the command to be contacted by the HF, which was eventually completed.

[kit88]

Want on you. Sure, not a problem.
But somehow I was not going to be rude to you, but turned as a technician to a technician. You don’t want to talk like that, it's up to you.
You began to be rude. And to question my professional skills, I did not give you a reason. You served in one place - I am in another. Your opinion on the subject matter I heard
This is firstly, secondly and thirdly.
Goodbye.

[Piramidon]

Quote: kit88

Want on you. Sure, not a problem

And still continue to be rude and poke.

[Storekeeper]

In "Transaero" the girls worked as aircraft technicians, no one complained about them. We used them in ALL jobs, including heavy replacement of wheels (up to 200kg), brakes (up to 150kg). At first they were greeted with hostility, but the work showed everything. They will not go on boarding when the boat will probably be up to the inspection team, the boat allows you to transport up to twenty paratroopers, so they will carry out power work!

[Ryaruav]

but another hoopoe from the Russian Orthodox Church said that girls do not need education just read on Yandex news

[Terenin]

Quote: Ryaruav

but another hoopoe from the Russian Orthodox Church said ...

Do you think that by such an "intellectual" remark, you have lowered his reputation?

[URAL72]

Have you read it? "Yes, there were people in our time, not like the current tribe, heroes, - not you!" Since then, we have been convinced more than once that the heroes have not died out on the Russian land. So I believe in them. I myself have seen more than once in battles in Donbass, we have heroes, incl. volunteers from Russia, and not only Russian by nationality.

[Malyuta]

Quote: horus88

and we are planning a total war?

In principle, anything can be outlined with our leaders. In this sense, I propose to form crews of tanks, armored boats, mortar and artillery calculations, engineer companies from children of leaders of all ranks and be sure to draw the daughter-general of the Generalissimo of all wars to mandatory service in the troops of the peripheral military district for at least the commander’s platoon.

[Lopatov]

Quote: horus88

and we are planning a total war?

Apparently, we have a shortage of men in the Navy.

Quote: horus88

Personally, I would be interested to hear about the experience of Israeli women

Once again, the 1077th anti-aircraft regiment, Stalingrad.
After all, not Israeli women are going to recruit a female crew ...

[lucul]

Personally, I would be interested to hear about the experience of the Israeli women, how they act on their own in difficult situations, how do the barmels react to them in battle?

You made a mistake on the site. For example, I’m not at all interested in the experience of the Israeli women - I’m more interested in ours.

[V.I.P.]

You do not compare people who lived in the USSR and the current population of the Russian Federation. There man to man was a brother. Now what? Now man is an enemy to man ... Look at how people make careers walking on their heads, see how they shot videos during explosions in the subway, see how they kick to death in a fight near taverns and see a lot more ..... Stalin, Molotov, etc ..... This is who of the current deputies, ministers and their children will fight something?)))))

[Malyuta]

Quote: V.I.P.

This is who of the current deputies, ministers and their children will fight something?)))))

None of them will fight, and besides, almost all of them are citizens of other countries.

[Lopatov]

Quote: V.I.P.

You do not compare people who lived in the USSR and the current population of the Russian Federation. There man to man was a brother. Now what?

And now the sixth company of the 104th RAP, Alexander Prokhorenko and Magomed Nurbagandov

Quote: V.I.P.

Now man is an enemy to man ...

At you just environment so-so ...

[V.I.P.]

You indicated 100 people, and during the Second World War there were tens of millions ....

[Lopatov]

Quote: V.I.P.

You indicated 100 people, and during the Second World War there were tens of millions ....

I served, therefore I can list for a long time.

[seregatara1969]

Grandmother went through the entire anti-aircraft gun war.

[Chigi]

A deep bow to your grandmother, she is a Warrior.
But nevertheless, fortunately, she did not come into direct contact with melee with the enemy.
And then there are 3 girls and how will they be prepared to "stop illegal actions"?

[Zagontos]

Quote: Spade

Quote: horus88

What for?
are they ready to act tough if necessary?

The first division of the 1077th anti-aircraft regiment, Stalingrad. Read about it at your leisure.

Now it’s not WWII and there are many guys who want to serve! They are just a Western fad

[Lopatov]

Quote: Zagontos

Now it’s not WWII and there are many guys who want to serve!

There would be crowds "willing to serve." there would be no problems.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Spade

Quote: horus88

What for?
are they ready to act tough if necessary?

The first division of the 1077th anti-aircraft regiment, Stalingrad. Read about it at your leisure.

I won’t tell about women in the war - I saw it only at headquarters, in the cafeteria and in medicine.
But I saw female bodyguards. This is not like "the guards in" Ashan. "They are SUCH shepherd dogs (in a good sense of the word) ... Either they are involved in feminism, or something else - but they only work so hard, as if and without fuss, that they have not yet every man can do that.
So what about the female crew, I'm calm - after all, three of them, weren't chosen out of five? I think there was a choice and they took away who needed - "Soldier Jane" nervously smokes on the sidelines ..

[Lopatov]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Either implicated in feminism, or what else

Aunts are different, like men.
So I mentioned our paramedic above. After all, conscripts were really afraid, especially of demobilization.
In fact, no one has done more against the unregulated in the division than she. Both physical examinations, and a jerk to demobilization, if that is found out (young people did not tell us, everything was handed over to her at once), and she could soap the gentlemen with the withers of the officers, especially young people, who did not really think.

[PSih2097]

Quote: Spade

The first division of the 1077th anti-aircraft regiment, Stalingrad. Read about it at your leisure.

And how did they finish, and during the day ??? In my understanding, women should not participate in such matters.

[Lopatov]

Quote: PSih2097

And how did they finish, and during the day ???

Bad done.
But this does not mean that they were not ready enough for retaliatory aggression against the enemy.

Quote: PSih2097

In my understanding, women should not participate in such matters.

In mine too.
But the question is completely different.

[PSih2097]

Quote: Spade

But the question is completely different.

Well, yes ... as in the motto of the Airborne Forces - "no one but us", but everything was very simple there - the authorities did it - that's what happened - what happened.

[cost]

Lopatov (Lopatov)
Quote: horus88
What for?
are they ready to act tough if necessary?

The first division of the 1077th anti-aircraft regiment, Stalingrad. Read about it at your leisure

Be sure to read horus88. I hope to radically change your mind about the resilience of women soldiers
August 23, 1942 The 14th Panzer Corps, under the command of General von Wittersheim, quickly rushes to the northern outskirts of Stalingrad near the villages of Latoshinka, Akatovka and Rynok. Dozens of German tanks of the 16th Panzer Division, under the command of Lieutenant General Hube, reached the Tractor Plant and were one and a half kilometers from the plant's workshops. Following the tanks that entered the city, the Germans threw several infantry divisions and two motorized divisions into the corridor they created. At that time, there were practically no Soviet troops in the rear of Stalingrad, since the units of the 62nd Army, acting as a cover, fought ten kilometers from the outskirts of the city. On the way of the Nazi troops were only three batteries of the second division of captain L.I. Dahovnik of the 1077th anti-aircraft artillery regiment, performing the air defense of the Stalingrad Tractor Plant, a battalion of STZ militia workers and two tanks from the assembly line of the plant. It should be noted that all three batteries of this anti-aircraft regiment were equipped exclusively with female personnel.
The German tank corps could not break the resistance of a handful of anti-aircraft gunners and a militia battalion, and capture Stalingrad and the STZ with a sudden blow. In two days of fighting in the suburbs, the tank corps lost 83 tanks and 111 armored personnel carriers, three battalions of German infantry. However, the Germans managed to destroy all 37 Soviet anti-aircraft guns, with which most of the personnel also died.
By personal order I.V. Stalin's second division of the 1077th regiment of anti-aircraft artillery, the only non-regiment formation in the Red Army units was awarded the personal Red Banner. All dead anti-aircraft gunners were forever included in the ranks of the Red Army.
The standard of the second red banner division of the 1077th regiment of anti-aircraft artillery until 1991 was stored in the Museum of the October Revolution on Red Square in Moscow.

[cost]

Where are we heading, forum?
It feels like fans of the unfinished heroines of the anti-aircraft gunners of Hitler’s warriors are minus. A shame!

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Rich

A shame!

I believe that such things need a tough response from the moderators!

[smile]

Lopatov
Hello.
I don’t know why you got minuses and how they were guided (I think by strange emotions, stupidity and illiteracy), but the anti-aircraft guns you mentioned are not just girls who proved that they are able to act tough if they have to fall to the ground but they will not let the enemy pass while they are alive ....
these little girls (the average age of the personnel, including the team - men who were much older - if I'm not mistaken - 18-19 years old) ..... showed serious professionalism - they are anti-aircraft gunners, but they worked mainly on tanks - and here they proved to be very effective ... more than thirty tanks destroyed, I suppose - an indicator .... I read the memories (I published relatives of letters received from the deceased near Stalingrad .... a bad, but honest man of German nationality and tank specialty) of one of the ordinary Wehrmacht tankmen ( the rank-and-file is more honest - the Germans, the higher the rank, the more they lie in their memories - europace, aphid, if you survived :)))), who after a wild fight did go to their positions - this later dead cattle wrote that he and his colleagues they were very surprised when, at crushed artillery positions, they mainly saw dead girls ... wrote that the mood that was already depressed from the losses was there, and when they saw it. that they were burned by young girls - it became completely shitty ...
So it goes...
Pancake. nice that someone remembers it ... considering. that the ears from the screeching of site visitors lay about how we are "phenomenally weak" already, it turns out, "lost" in Syria ... yeah, as if we were playing there ...
Forgive me for writing the details of the battles that are clearly known to you. the girls you mentioned - I wrote to you in support but for those who, to pound, to pound, to mother-reel, do not understand what it is about.
Sincerely.

[RAE8]

Quote: Spade

The first division of the 1077th anti-aircraft regiment, Stalingrad. Read about it at your leisure.

Or do you think that today's people are equal to those that were near Stalingrad?

5+ Ideological motivation is different.

and we are planning a total war?

Even assuming the absolute confidence of the current leadership in the impending big war, it is reasonable to use women in auxiliary services, support, rear services, but not direct contact. Especially when there are instructions on

[the most important]

Quote: horus88

are they ready to act tough if necessary?
Reply

They are ready ... but who will change the "spare tire"?

[figwam]

Quote: the most important

They are ready ... but who will change the "spare tire"?

I feel the whole boat there, like a woman’s bag, cosmetics will be littered with.

[Piramidon]

Quote: the most important

Quote: horus88

are they ready to act tough if necessary?

They are ready ... but who will change the "spare tire"?

Before stupid sarcasm come out, study the history of the Great Patriotic War. How many women snipers, tankmen, anti-aircraft gunners, pilots and navigators ... fought on the fronts of this war. And no one, unlike you, thought about gaskets. Your mind has not advanced beyond this.

[the most important]

Quote: Piramidon

Before stupid sarcasm come out, study the history of the Great Patriotic War. How many women snipers, tankmen, anti-aircraft gunners, pilots and navigators ... fought on the fronts of this war. And no one, unlike you, thought about gaskets. Your mind has not advanced beyond this.

You can’t even imagine how many female officers served with me. Not as one famous Wolf, but for days on end disappearing at work. But not all posts are for them. And the combat boat, I think, is not for women. And you first wrote about gaskets .. So. that move your mind towards development.

[Piramidon]

Quote: the most important

And you first wrote about gaskets ..

But what did you write about?

but who will change the "spare tire"?

I understood exactly that. What reserve can be on the boat?

[infantryman2020]

1) well, then there is nothing to blame for the "demographic pits";
2) the Germans with human resources were even worse, but they didn’t allow women to the front lines.
Only without cheap cheers! The heroism of our women in WWII is not discussed!

[Finn]

Do not change the spare tire, but lace up the boots. They have a constant phrase: "fasten my boots." Remotely from the enemy can serve, communication, pro, air defense ... And with possible contact with the enemy. Suddenly they will take it by the chest, and that's all. They will scream that her chest is sensitive. Or Shoigu Santa Claus is such a gift to the enemy, they do not need their "female company of support".

[Wedmak]

This is the crew of the boat, not the landing group or the capture group.

[orionvitt]

Quote: horus88

What for?

Fashion is like that. And Russia goes there too. Moreover, even in Soviet times, all women are pilots, cosmonauts, ship captains, etc., this is not because they do this job better than men, but for the most part, to show the whole world that we have equality. With all my love for the opposite sex, there is such a thing as "not a woman's business." Here I do not mean the Great Patriotic War. Then there was a total war and even children fought.

[Den717]

Quote: horus88

What for?

It happens that I do not agree with the representatives of the better half of humanity in everything. But in this matter, I think that it is unlikely that we should be hindered in those personal wishes of which we do not deny ourselves. And given that the matter is new and significant for them, the crew will be prepared a cut above the traditional.

[Dikson]

yeah .. together we recall the songs of Yuri Antonov and the film "Take care of the Women" ...

[Dym71]

Man's attention: there is no reason for laughter
Today, in every business, women match us,
And we voluntarily teach the roles of others,
If this goes on, we can fall behind.

[The leader of the Redskins]

There the whole film is dedicated to such a crew. Only there is a tugboat, and here is a combat boat. In life, it is not always like in a movie ...

[Chaldon48]

The girls are probably volunteers, let them try, it is unlikely that there will be many such boats. In the Second World War there were female squadrons, the Germans called them "night witches".

[orionvitt]

Quote: Dikson

film "Take care of women" ...

How, we remember. And remember that this crew was a headache for the entire shipping company. Not because they are "something out there", but in fact.

[primala]

Women FEEL intuitively ...

[Grits]

Quote: primaala

Women FEEL intuitively ...

This is bad. And it should be - thinks logically and rationally.

[primala]

Quote: Gritsa

Quote: primaala

Women FEEL intuitively ...

This is bad. And it should be - thinks logically and rationally.

=========
Logic is directly related to intuition. And of course knowledge ...))

[Misha Honest]

Quote: primaala

Women FEEL intuitively ...

Intuition is one thing, but, for example, twisting a 2-meter hefty, armed man is another ...

[primala]

Quote: Misha Honest

Quote: primaala

Women FEEL intuitively ...

Intuition is one thing, but, for example, twisting a 2-meter hefty, armed man is another ...

======================
Agree. We have no place in battle. You can’t imagine how anxious for OUR in hot spots. (yes even where) we worry.

[Ryaruav]

women are not more intuitive than men they are more emotional and tend to act not with their minds and this is not good in the Navy

[Xnumx vis]

Damn ... Well, have come ... Is that a gift to the ladies for the holiday of the Eighth of March ..? or are there no men?

[primala]

Quote: 30 vis

Damn ... Well, have come ... Is that a gift to the ladies for the holiday of the Eighth of March ..? or are there no men?

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YOU are our back and shoulders. Oh ... cho !? )))

[Galleon]

This is for the happiness and fun of the minister - a feminist.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Galleon

This is for the happiness and fun of the minister - a feminist.

There is simply no other explanation in nature. If the female sex loves so much, then let her love it at her own expense! And on my own territory ... I also have the "Bakhchisarai" harem of Girey ...

[egor1712]

Well, all-sushi oars. Now the entire American armada is kaput.

[primala]

Quote: egor1712

Well, all-sushi oars. Now the entire American armada is kaput.

==================
I had the "honor" to communicate with the Americans. I'll tell you ... they can be easily misled.
No no ... not about that ... They are really "boots". ))

[Leshy1975]

Oh how. Not like the experiments of the United States, with female hp, do not give rest? Or have American militants seen enough and little Shoigu is already general? My unequivocal opinion is that war is not a woman’s business. And while you can do without them in dangerous conditions, you need to protect women from this. Enough in the army for women and safer posts. And chases, detentions and God forbid being under fire and death, who needs it now? Another hype from Shoigu?

[Ryazan87]

I agree, a bad idea.

[Most kind]

Maybe just no male sex

[wayden]

Well, obviously they themselves want this. And there are very fighting women, so why hold them back?

[orionvitt]

Quote: wayden

there are very fighting women, so why hold them back?

So let them marry the military men and fight there for their pleasure.

[donavi49]

World practice.

For example, in Japan, ladies are already in command.

In France La Fayetami

In China, Wei Huixiao - commands the 052C missile destroyer.

And in general, in China there are many girls in the army and navy.

True, they have mixed crews. Do not hit purely female. It is more likely just under March 8th to report.

[figwam]

Quote: donavi49

World practice.

In world practice, another parent 1 or 2, gays, lesbians and all sorts of indecent perversions, this is please without us.

[donavi49]

I specifically brought China - where is a traditional family, and everything else, oh how it is not approved.

Well, or Qatar, where open gay men are the real article of the Criminal Code. There are already Apaches managed by Lieutenant Mariam Yousef.

[figwam]

Quote: donavi49

I specifically brought China - where is a traditional family, and everything else, oh how it is not approved.

A woman in the army, if necessary, can be used as help to men, preferably in the rear units, rather than on the front line.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: donavi49

In China, Wei Huixiao

A very interesting surname for the lady commander ... Like that. ..Hmm ... I'm shy to say ... Hmm ...

[Lopatov]

Quote: Leshy1975

Another hype from Shoigu?

It hurts a lot of them ...

[gabonskijfront]

The more women in the army the more painful it is, mothers and housewives must be brought up, then the man will be more brutal.

[rotkiv04]

Not entirely understandable piaraka or men in the fleet is not enough?

[Thrifty]

The Yankees won women and command warships, but with us the emancipation will not reach this soon, alas.

[Masha]

Excuse me ... but what the hell is it asking? Tribute to the European one? Okay, their men have transferred ... we have what? Also missing ?????
According to Stanislavsky ...
I do not believe!

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Masha

Excuse me ... but what the hell is it asking? Tribute to the European one? Okay, their men have transferred ... we have what? Also missing ?????
According to Stanislavsky ...
I do not believe!

I agree with you 146%. Women need to be protected from danger, and not to hide behind them in case of danger.

[Masha]

I agree with you 146%.

Did 4% regret it?

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Masha

I agree with you 146%.

Did 4% regret it?

Well this is a well-known meme, about 146%. So I use it little by little.

[Masha]

So I'm not sufficiently advanced .... getting old ...

[Mihail2019]

Masha, if you are "getting old", then you should definitely know this meme from the presidential election run by Churov!
Well, either you are young as few on this site!

[Masha]

So ... not so old ... and not young ... like Karlson, in the prime of life!

[McDonnell Douglas]

Woman on a ship - be trouble!

[Cat]

Woman on a ship - be trouble!

A man on a ship with a female crew - to be ... uh .. fantasy is not enough

[Mouse]

Without fantasy ...
A woman on a ship - unfortunately ...
But, as long-distance sailors, hungry for female society, say:
-there would be no happiness, but misfortune helped ...

[Cat]

Quote: Mouse

yes misfortune helped

"Misfortunes" await them at the port?

[Mouse]

"Misfortunes" await them at the port?

And here it is not necessary ...
On the coast of our native land one complete happiness awaits! There are no coast sorry for the tautology ...

[Maalkavianin]

A woman is also a man. It can also serve. And to kill. So why not serve them.

[Warrior MorePhoto]

As an option, this is an operational search for Woman-Woman, if for example on a civilian ship (motor ship)

[Brylevsky]

As an option, this is an operational search for Woman-Woman, if for example on a civilian ship (motor ship)

Border guards are engaged in this. They almost always have a female ensign, and more than one, in the squad engaged in the inspection of a civilian ship. For 20 years I have been going to the seas, during all this time there has never been a case in my memory that someone would conduct a "personal inspection" of our cooks and barmaids. This military woman's crew is a purely propaganda action, nothing more. These ladies will not go out to sea, so what if they are now being trained? They can pass anything and anywhere, but before going out to sea the young ladies will be changed by the male crew, it is as clear as day.

[Mihail2019]

Alternatively, have a special woman on board for inspection! Everyone remembers the "fifth element" ?! laughing laughing

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

And if critical moments, on critical days?

[Galleon]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

And if critical moments, on critical days?

They forgot to add: "at critical angles of the bank" ... under the critical (and to be honest - under pitying and sympathetic) views of the men ...

[Cat]

And if critical moments, on critical days?

Therefore, a crew of 3 people (i.e. women). Theoretically, everyone cannot have it at the same time. But no one is immune from "inevitable accidents at sea"

[orionvitt]

Quote: Gato

Theoretically, everyone cannot have it at the same time.

And the fact that women in such cases are emotionally unstable does not bother anyone. A nervous breakdown, even if one crew member, especially during a military operation, is a very problematic situation. C'mon there in the battle, each of us in our personal lives came across a similar, and that is not pleasant enough.

[Grits]

Quote: orionvitt

And the fact that women in such cases are emotionally unstable does not bother anyone. A nervous breakdown, even if one crew member, especially during a military operation, is a very problematic situation

There were cases, even the lining of the spacecraft was drilled with a drill ...

[Mihail2019]

Come on, look for information on this subject regarding students living in the same dormitory room. Discover a lot of new things!

[primala]

You should not be so (men). Women are able to think logically, and chop off the shoulder. (for the good of the case).
At first glance it seems stupid. The main thing is the result. Remember the agents.

[Leshy1975]

Quote: primaala

You should not be so (men). Women are able to think logically, and chop off the shoulder. (for the good of the case).
At first glance it seems stupid. The main thing is the result. Remember the agents.

Agents, yes. But this is not an army.
Who do you think a normal male commander will send to the most dangerous point? Women or men? Here is the influence.
Further. Large physical exertion - men are created by nature for large physical exertion. And the equipment, its weight, as well as the effort for the work of many mechanisms, are designed for male physical. force. And the worst thing that could be is mixed combat units. There is also psychology intervening - either dragging your own, or helping a woman (and she needs to carry the same thing, a female BC or armor has not yet been invented in the army) and in the case of a database, it’s up to you to solve your task or to rush to the aid of a female fighter . And women have psychological characteristics, they are by nature less aggressive, it’s harder to take another’s life - lack of testosterone hormone. Women create life, it’s harder for them to take away, more emotional. I’m not even talking about physiological features. And for logical work, there are enough posts now.

[primala]

Quote: Leshy1975

Quote: primaala

You should not be so (men). Women are able to think logically, and chop off the shoulder. (for the good of the case).
At first glance it seems stupid. The main thing is the result. Remember the agents.

Agents, yes. But this is not an army.
Who do you think a normal male commander will send to the most dangerous point? Women or men? Here is the influence.
Further. Large physical exertion - men are created by nature for large physical exertion. And the equipment, its weight, as well as the effort for the work of many mechanisms, are designed for male physical. force. And the worst thing that could be is mixed combat units. There is also psychology intervening - either dragging your own, or helping a woman (and she needs to carry the same thing, a female BC or armor has not yet been invented in the army) and in the case of a database, it’s up to you to solve your task or to rush to the aid of a female fighter . And women have psychological characteristics, they are by nature less aggressive, it’s harder to take another’s life - lack of testosterone hormone. Women create life, it’s harder for them to take away, more emotional. I’m not even talking about physiological features. And for logical work, there are enough posts now.

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I can not resist you. You are sooo ... STRATEG ...)) unless ... agree.
As for the "emotional" - we stand on that !!! It helps (quality), in any business, to think well.
It's like (knowing) the iron is turned on, the main thing is to turn it off in time.

[Brylevsky]

And do not "cut from the shoulder", Alla. On the navigating bridge, you need to think quickly without emotions - emotions interfere with business. So what about the average woman in a stressful emotional situation? Not off scale?

Women are able to think logically

Men are no less logical. How many women mathematicians do you know? I only remember S. Kovalevskaya ...

Remember the agents.

What is common between agent work and work on a ship’s bridge?

[gabonskijfront]

I admit the female crew, only as a role-playing game.

[Leshy1975]

Quote: gabonskijfront

I admit the female crew, only as a role-playing game.

Humor is of course slippery, but ridiculous.

[primala]

Quote: gabonskijfront

I admit the female crew, only as a role-playing game.

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Well, in vain ...
You underestimate the "contribution". It's a shame.

[Pavel57]

A man on such a boat is in trouble.

[Grits]

Quote: Pavel57

A man on such a boat is in trouble.

And all at once

[KAVBER]

N-yes ... What do you call a boat .... Firstly, I was not always sure that the raptors swam well. Well, let alone the fact that a woman on a ship is a well-known omen. What can we say about three at once. In short, the enviable fate of the boat is planned.

[Mouse]

If they swim, and do not go ..... then fate is not enviable ... the ladies to finish only ....

[KAVBER]

So I'm talking about the same thing, the raptors were unlikely to go through the water, if only into the water

[Mouse]

To the bottom? So they’re there, then they’re there ....

[McDonnell Douglas]

Soon this expression will be a call to action.
- Comrade Captain, can I turn?
- You can Masha for the thigh.

[Mouse]

And you, aware that the machine for the thigh is a mop in his hands and the deck to scrub ....

[Mihail2019]

That's just the point that not in this case !!!

[Dikson]

I read the comments .. In vain you are so .. The raptor is still not submarine .. And among the marines, we even had women in the Great Patriotic War, and in Aviation, and among snipers .. In general, I am silent about the scouts .. And women are captured by the enemy where worse than us peasants ... telephonists and other staff ladies in filder stockings mean you like it, and is a girl with a screw cutter or at the helm of a boat or an airplane already too much? Do not bend your soul .. if a person is strong and right, it makes no difference whether he wears pants or a skirt ..

[McDonnell Douglas]

Yes, the Scots are so strong and in skirts ...

[orionvitt]

Quote: Dikson

And among the marines, we even had women in World War II

Do not confuse the conditions of a total war of annihilation with political games and PR. The film "Reciprocal Move" immediately comes to mind.

[iouris]

Russia has two allies - the male fleet and the female fleet.

[McDonnell Douglas]

In general, to be honest, then tin ...
The boarding teams of the probable enemy will now be chasing the Raptor by sea ...

[prior]

"The first female crew of the Raptor patrol boat has been formed at the Black Sea Fleet"

An epic event of a planetary scale!
Even Neptune is at a loss ....

[Mihail2019]

And Neptune shakes his beard on his finger, thinking - what the hell is going on the surface ?!

[K-50]

Psychologists have a negative attitude towards purely female crews, brigades, and other groups temporarily isolated from men.
No matter how beautiful the ladies, it’s just hard for them to get along. Nature is against them.

[Mihail2019]

The maximum percentage of women in the team is 30-35%! This is the assurances of the girls in our mixed team. Moreover, from those girls who previously worked in purely female groups.
Of course, this is subjective, but they are the ones who say that all these financial departments, legal departments, accounting, economic planning .. In short, purely women's departments are such a "snake"!
This is not my assessment ..

[Vladimir61]

Well, on auxiliary ships, female crew, that's okay, although for sailors there is a "woman" on the ship ...
But, in combat, these women need to have "eggs", and in fact give up the normal functioning of the family, childbirth, maternity leave ...

[Stas1973]

Oh dibilushki ... Shoigu in the ministry is not enough contingent, whom he made in the generals? Did you decide to assign the admiral ahead of schedule to someone? Varieties in shape wanted? But seriously, the WWII tried, in addition to aviation units, to make tank crews. Not a mess. Yes, and in aviation - also not very. Only in non-combat units and no more. Yeah, a platoon of marines, pdssnikov or specialists on a scow with such a crew .... nude-nude. Lesbians scored?

[Amateur]

The first experimental female crew of three was formed as part of the Black Sea Fleet. The decision to form the first female crew as an experiment was personally made by Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu.

Well Kozhugetich! Well done! Now the Russian Navy has "Malibu rescuers"

[Finn]

Quote: Fighter MoreThings

As an option, this is an operational search for Woman-Woman, if for example on a civilian ship (motor ship)

Yes, we can handle the search ourselves, no women. And then it looks like LGBD or how they are right.

[Swetly]

Excuse me, we have a shortage of male sailors ?! ... And I thought that we had a shortage of ships ... With the size of our sea borders and the number of "friends" in NATO ...

[Finn]

Quote: primaala

You should not be so (men). Women are able to think logically, and chop off the shoulder. (for the good of the case).
At first glance it seems stupid. The main thing is the result. Remember the agents.

Agents women. Attractive and sexy behind enemy lines. Yes, but where does the Raptor. Will they also serve pregnant women? Or so, Comrade Commander-in-Chief of the team, not half of the sailors went on leave to support the child.

[K-50]

Quote: Finn

Will they also serve pregnant women?

There, before pregnancy, there are still "critical days" from which many women are blown away. and it is better not to come across them.
I'm afraid to imagine what they can "trick" in such a state.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

Absolutely fucked up. Women need to give birth.

[jovanni]

It’s sad to read it somehow. Once upon a time in St. Petersburg I saw sailors from an English frigate who came on a visit. Supposedly friendly. And they had a lot of women in the carriage. All as a selection, scary as an atomic war. I even sympathized with their peasants somewhere ... And then I’ll imagine that our girls
smart women, beauties, will defend their homeland on boats ... Where are the men? Maybe I'm wrong, but it's some shame ...

[Voltsky]

And then these severe women of the men on the shore will paw for anything like in DMB :)

[Vasily Goncharov]

I read the comments of some participants and was surprised, but what is it that creates a female crew in the Navy, that our women cannot stand up for their country. Yes, I am more than sure that they will be able to do more and better than some people of the strong half of humanity. Moreover, I will say that my friend’s daughter serves in Uncle Vasya’s Troops, and she can give odds to more than one fighter. And the slender girl herself, the ZKV, has a family and nothing.

[Sklendarka]

Well, now heal ...

[Zagontos]

During the training, the crew will master the technical means of the boat, including the power plant, radio equipment, communication and navigation systems, and will master the skills of controlling the boat.

And they will go on maternity leave, and then again .. Well, what are the fools about MO?
What little guys wanting? Or copy west

[Pavel57]

But the news will be cool - the crew of a military boat all went on maternity leave.

[Mihail2019]

And the crew of the second boat demands to officially declare their boat and the boat of the female crew ships-family members!
Panopticon, damn it!

[Mihail2019]

Question: why ?!

[Mihail2019]

Of course, I respect both Lydia Litvyak, and Valentina Grizodubova, and Valentina Tereshkova, and Svetlana Savitskaya, but (please do not consider me a male chauvinist): military units in peacetime (that is, without declaring martial law in the country) MUST do exclusively with male personnel !

[Mihail2019]

That is why he cited as an example precisely these four women who were engaged in purely male work and all showed themselves so that not every man can!

[bald]

I just respect them - then, back in the 80s, remember GUMO12

[Vladislava_I]

Class, we girls are gradually penetrating into all spheres of the army, this cannot but rejoice!

[Aag]

... Penetrates ....

[Luty]

This is sad news. In peacetime, it means there aren’t enough male warriors, but you shouldn’t admire it. I think that to each his own.

[Terenin]

Come on, colleagues smoke break - it is necessary, do not . The decision was made and clearly stated that

The decision to form the first female crew, a patrol boat, at the Black Sea Fleet as an experiment, was made personally by Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu.