Syria, March 4: In an attempt to counter-attack near Seracib, the militants suffered losses and retreated

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As of noon on March 4, fighting continues in Syria between parts of the Syrian Arab army and Turkish-backed illegal armed groups.

The Turkish Ministry of Defense reports on the deaths of military personnel.



Attempts by militants to once again occupy the strategically important city of Serakib failed. Government forces managed to repel the enemy’s attacks, and the militants themselves in an interview with Al-Jazeera claimed that this happened thanks to the support of the Russian aviation. Having suffered losses, the militants were forced to retreat.

Now the revitalization of militants is observed in the southern part of Idlib province, in rural areas. But here, success is not accompanied by radical groups: the Syrian government forces continue to crowd out militants of pro-Turkish formations.

As a result of the battles for rural settlements, the militant groups lost in numbers and were forced to start a retreat to the northern part of Idlib. The villages of Hass, Mutarat, Muatassin and Arabo were under the control of government forces.

However, the Turkish armed forces supporting the militants continue to attack the positions and columns of the Syrian government forces in Idlib and Aleppo. For air attacks, as before, unmanned aerial vehicles are used.


In the area of ​​the settlement of Zerba, an air strike was struck against the Syrian government forces, and the positions of Iranian fighters from the Shiite militia were fired. In response, government forces fired on positions of pro-Turkish forces on the outskirts of Kafr Nuran. At the same time, the Syrian Arab army is shelling the positions of the Khayyat Tahrir al-Sham group banned in Russia in the vicinity of the city of Jisr al-Shugur.

The Syrian military also seized the militants' weapons depot. Among the discovered weapons - Turkish-made pistols, machine guns, ammunition, and even an unmanned aerial vehicle that could be used to carry out reconnaissance missions of government positions.

Restlessly in other provinces of Syria. So, in the province of Hama, fighting unfolded in the area of ​​the city of Al-Ziyar, and in the Al-Ankawi region, Syrian government troops fired on the positions of the militants.

Thus, we see that there are no significant changes in the situation in northern Syria. Türkiye successfully applies Drones, which allowed a number of world publications to talk about a new method of modern warfare, tested by the Turkish armed forces in Idlib. In turn, the Syrian army is slowly but successfully pushing back the militants, freeing one settlement after another.

The Turkish Ministry of Defense reported the deaths of two Turkish soldiers as a result of shelling by the Syrian army and the wounding of 2 soldiers in Idlib province. Details of what happened were not disclosed, but it is obvious that the almost daily human losses of the Turkish armed forces in Idlib cannot be called evidence of Recep Erdogan's successful policy towards Syria.

In February 2020 alone, the Syrian operation cost Turkey at least 55 human lives. With all the belligerent mood of Ankara, sooner or later, but such losses of personnel will cause discontent in Turkish society.

Tomorrow Recep Tayyip Erdogan will arrive in Moscow, where he intends to discuss the situation in Idlib. The very fact that it is Erdogan who flies to Putin suggests that for the Turkish president, for all his warlike rhetoric, the situation is becoming increasingly complicated.
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  1. -16
    4 March 2020 15: 38
    Looking at the map - get it with your elbow. But WHO will get it !? as always, Russian peacekeepers !?
    Sad.
    1. +35
      4 March 2020 15: 43
      The terrorists of the Hayat Tahrir al-Sham group in Idlib poisoned themselves while trying to blow up containers with a poisonous substance, in the process of preparing the next Assad's chemical attackgood. Boomerang sometimes flies very fastlaughing.
      In the meantime, in parallel with Erdogan’s declaration to stop deterring refugees rushing to Europe, pogroms of camps where these same refugees are located began in Turkey. From Turkey, the image of a secular country, which she had been pretending to be from the time of Ataturk, amazingly quickly flew.
      1. -61
        4 March 2020 15: 48
        And from Russia, after the proposal to introduce God into the constitution?
        1. +5
          4 March 2020 15: 52
          Theocracy from this will not.
          1. The comment was deleted.
            1. +8
              4 March 2020 15: 59
              No, the Russian Federation is multiconfessional, and for the Almighty the Constitution does not fix additional powers and assistants. Why does he need this reverse power?
            2. +14
              4 March 2020 16: 49
              Kronos, by the way, in the same wording in the same sentence with a thousand-year continuity, both God and Traditions are indicated, this is done just for atheists. Honestly, it’s surprising how distracting you are from mentioning God, the Russian Church, the analogy with garlic and holy water suggests itselfsmile.
              1. -6
                4 March 2020 16: 50
                I do not need any gods with their impositions
                1. +4
                  4 March 2020 16: 52
                  Nobody has imposed anything close to you, do not compose. See below my first answer and understand the essence of the amendment.
                2. +2
                  4 March 2020 18: 24
                  laughing Uh, my friend, is it time for you to have an exorcism session? Joke. laughing
            3. -2
              4 March 2020 18: 27
              It’s not about who will become, but that it turns out that it’s not ruling the country, but a hut and it’s still babble, compared to the past, for example, seven-bayarschina, and you don’t have to go far, this is a period of cannibalistic life when no one is behind that he didn’t answer, and the destruction of the country and people were covered simply by democracy.
              1. -1
                5 March 2020 07: 44
                fk7777777, are you answering me? Do you have a claim for amendments? Then judge them not by gossip on the Internet, but read them once in the original, preferably in full and with a specialist in jurisprudence. Amendments to the Constitution strengthen the sovereignty of Russia, the state-forming role of the Russian people, the priority of their own legislation over international, the unity of society and historical justice: https: //youtu.be/_-w8lfo3dBM
        2. +2
          4 March 2020 16: 14
          In the USA, the Bible is sworn in the courts and under the oath of the President. In European states, God is mentioned in constitutions. So why are you trying to grumble here?
          1. +4
            4 March 2020 16: 22
            pipetro (Michael)
            In the USA, the Bible is sworn in the courts and under the oath of the President.
            And in Moscow they say chickens are milked ... And now what?
            The USA is the last with whom Russia should take an example. So do not be here. And in general, what relation does God and the Constitution of the Russian Federation have to do with the attack on Serakib? What do you breed in each topic? As for the amendments to the Constitution, there was an article and not one, and there it’s frolic.
          2. +4
            4 March 2020 18: 31
            Sorry, but the USA is what region of the Russian Federation, and European states have been an integral part of Russia for a very long time, right? ... And then I’m watching everything on TV, they’re telling the wrong story.
          3. +4
            4 March 2020 18: 58
            We are not in the US and not in the "European states", however. No need to impose someone else's life on me! How the clowns from the West began to copy from the humpback, they still can't calm down. One country has already been destroyed, now the remnants are being finished off.
          4. -3
            4 March 2020 21: 22
            Indeed, what is there to grumble about? Distribute the belts to the priests and on the buckles write "God is with us"
        3. -7
          4 March 2020 16: 19
          Quote: Kronos
          And from Russia, after the proposal to introduce God into the constitution?

          ======================
          Mocking you sideways and ... Think before ... I can give an example when many men asked for help precisely from B ... (without knowing it). This is called. - unconsciously.
          1. +2
            4 March 2020 17: 27
            Lord, don't let me stop being an atheist.
            1. +7
              4 March 2020 18: 16
              Quote: Vyacheslav Viktorovich
              Lord, don't let me stop being an atheist.

              ==================
              Amen. )) (just kidding) Laughing in a voice. Because I think men are much smarter.
              1. +1
                4 March 2020 18: 48
                Quote: primaala
                Because I think men are much smarter.
                God forbid. I am a stupid person, so I just use Occam’s razor, I don’t multiply entities beyond what is necessary and I don’t overload the brain with anything that is not empirically confirmed.
                1. 0
                  4 March 2020 18: 57
                  Quote: Vyacheslav Viktorovich
                  Quote: primaala
                  Because I think men are much smarter.
                  God forbid. I am a stupid person, so I just use Occam’s razor, I don’t multiply entities beyond what is necessary and I don’t overload the brain with anything that is not empirically confirmed.

                  =================
                  lol I laugh in my voice ... I respect men with Chew. and with a lot ...))
                  1. 0
                    4 March 2020 19: 19
                    Everyone likes big, only the carrier causes problems! laughing love soldier
                    1. +4
                      4 March 2020 19: 22
                      Quote: Gillaton
                      Everyone likes big, only the carrier causes problems! laughing love soldier

                      =====================
                      tie to the neck ... feel oh))
                2. +3
                  4 March 2020 22: 32
                  I really liked your answers, although I do not agree with them in everything. Empirically learning this life, which may be more interesting on this earth, you have a hundred pluses! But God, of course there is! Thank! A plus!
        4. +3
          4 March 2020 16: 37
          Kronos, God in the sense that you think no one has contributed to the Consensus, read the wording. It (amendment) sounds like this, which confirms our thousand-year history of the state, implying that our state was officially created EXACTLY after the baptism of Russia. This is a fact when Prince Vladimir baptized Russia - the small Russian principalities were united for the first time and united into a single Old Russian state. God really stood at the origins of our great country. Although, in truth, the first Old Russian principality appeared under Rurik and Truvor in Staraya Ladoga and Staraya Russa in the 800s
        5. +5
          4 March 2020 16: 55
          Quote: divanka2021
          the Turks did spectacularly with drones, ours so far cannot

          Ours have been doing this since 2015, and for all the time they lost only two UAVs (both crashed while piloting in the mountains)!
        6. +3
          4 March 2020 17: 25

          In the footsteps of American "Partners"
          1. +3
            4 March 2020 18: 33
            Faith, gods, as well as conscience, are different for everyone. L. N. Tolstoy
            1. 0
              5 March 2020 09: 32
              fk7777777, you are mistaken in the conclusion of the premises. Anyone on earth can say that
              Faith, gods, like everyone’s conscience, are different
              , however, in any society throughout the history of mankind, the invariable values ​​of "Thou shalt not kill", "Thou shalt not steal", "Thou shalt not covet a neighbor's wife" have been recognized and further down the list. The trick is that these values ​​are given to us from birth, everyone knows them subconsciously, although some of their own free will violate, but in their hearts they REALIZE that they are violating. It is impossible to explain these sensations by evolution, humanity has been united in this for thousands of years, despite the difference in races, religions, and political structures. So Who gives us the basic laws of conscience that are uniform for the entire human race? The answer is quite simple and it is here: "There was a true Light that enlightens every person who comes into the world" (John 1: 9)
        7. -3
          4 March 2020 18: 07
          Quote: Kronos
          And from Russia, after the proposal to introduce God into the constitution?


          You, my dear man, do not confuse the proposal, which, if it gets to the point, then all one will be discussed, with real bloodletting to the peaceful people in places intended just to avoid bloodshed.
          And then it is possible to declare the stars over the Kremlin as Satanism.
          1. +1
            4 March 2020 18: 34
            They, by the way from ruby, are just aluminum oxide, ...
          2. +3
            4 March 2020 22: 45
            Unfortunately, Dmitry, nothing gets to the point. It has already been announced that we will be offered to vote for the package of amendments, and not for each change individually. Definitely, I am against this situation. What they try to involve us can be done only within the framework of a referendum, and for each item separately. Due to the fact that I do not know the essence of all amendments to the Constitution, I will vote against
        8. +1
          4 March 2020 18: 32
          This is of course difficult to accept for someone who has a cross on his chest, but a toe in his soul)))
      2. -3
        4 March 2020 15: 49
        Quote: Sarmat Sanych
        The terrorists of the Hayat Tahrir al-Sham group in Idlib poisoned themselves while trying to blow up containers with a poisonous substance, in the process of preparing the next Assad's chemical attackgood. Boomerang sometimes flies very fastlaughing.
        In the meantime, in parallel with Erdogan’s declaration to stop deterring refugees rushing to Europe, pogroms of camps where these same refugees are located began in Turkey. From Turkey, the image of a secular country, which she had been pretending to be from the time of Ataturk, amazingly quickly flew.

        ================
        Your words, yes to B ... in your ears (about a boomerang).
        That's just in the Muslim world, IT does not work.
        Alas.
        1. -3
          4 March 2020 16: 12
          And in parallel to Russia, what does not work for you there ..... It does not work for you, so this is your problem. Stop climbing "with bare heels on the checker" and everything will be great !!!!
      3. 0
        4 March 2020 16: 03
        It looks like a second Afghanistan. Turkey will fight until it suffers a crushing defeat.
        1. +1
          4 March 2020 16: 35
          Tell me, I didn't quite understand your idea, but what "first Afghanistan" do you mean?
      4. +16
        4 March 2020 17: 02
        From Turkey, the image of a secular country, which she had been pretending to be from the time of Ataturk, amazingly quickly flew.

        Turkey never really pretended to be a secular European country.
        Nobody will forget the Bulgarians buried alive and crucified during the Ottoman yoke, countless Armenian families literally carved out in the literal sense of the word during the 1915 genocide, punitive campaigns of the descendants of Osman in Northern Iraq for Kurdish lives, mass evictions of Greek Cypriots from their homes and their blown up Orthodox shrines.
        We also have something to recall the Turkish subjects. Even lately ...
        World wars, Chechnya, Georgia and tricks with Ukraine against the backdrop of Crimean hysteria.
        Do not joke with the Russian bear!
        The war with us is not an accounting of forces and assets on the map of military operations.
        This is a risk to remain without a state at all, or to lose a considerable part of it.
        Let Erdogan remember this during the negotiations in Moscow ... Yes
        1. 0
          4 March 2020 19: 07
          Quote: Paul Siebert
          From Turkey, the image of a secular country, which she had been pretending to be from the time of Ataturk, amazingly quickly flew.

          Turkey never really pretended to be a secular European country.
          Nobody will forget the Bulgarians buried alive and crucified during the Ottoman yoke, countless Armenian families literally carved out in the literal sense of the word during the 1915 genocide, punitive campaigns of the descendants of Osman in Northern Iraq for Kurdish lives, mass evictions of Greek Cypriots from their homes and their blown up Orthodox shrines.
          We also have something to recall the Turkish subjects. Even lately ...
          World wars, Chechnya, Georgia and tricks with Ukraine against the backdrop of Crimean hysteria.
          Do not joke with the Russian bear!
          The war with us is not an accounting of forces and assets on the map of military operations.
          This is a risk to remain without a state at all, or to lose a considerable part of it.
          Let Erdogan remember this during the negotiations in Moscow ... Yes

          Erdogan is aware that the Russian Federation will not do anything to Turkey - in the event of a "run over", NATO will "fit in" for him. And the Russian Federation cannot crush Turkey using non-military methods. So who has the trump cards, the big question.
          1. 0
            4 March 2020 20: 50
            The Sultan is getting ready that we, together with the SAR, are chopping off the eastern part of Turkey and Russia will have its own access to the Mediterranean Sea !!! wassat Yes soldier
          2. +4
            4 March 2020 21: 04
            And here NATO will not fit in with him, Turkey has many friends there - Greece, France, Armenians of the USA, etc.
        2. +5
          4 March 2020 19: 12
          Turkey never really pretended to be a secular European country.
          No one will forget the Bulgarians buried alive and crucified during the Ottoman yoke ....


          Yes, comrade Kuznetsov, and we owe you for our freedom and life. Eternal memory to the soldiers of the Russian Imperial Army!
          1. +1
            4 March 2020 21: 07
            But Ukraine and Georgia, which received significant parts of their territories thanks to the Victories in the Russo-Turkish Wars, somehow forgot about it, although the Ukrainians took an active part in them (sometimes sometimes on both sides of the conflicts)
            1. +1
              5 March 2020 19: 39
              Quote: 16329
              But Ukraine and Georgia, which received significant parts of their territories thanks to the Victories in the Russo-Turkish Wars, somehow forgot about it, although the Ukrainians took an active part in them (sometimes sometimes on both sides of the conflicts)

              When the events you described took place, there were no Ukrainians in nature yet. The national division before the Union was not in principle. They were divided by origin and religion.
          2. +1
            5 March 2020 06: 13
            Yes, comrade Kuznetsov, and we owe you for our freedom and life.

            Yeah, Herr Kaiser Zhenya! I recognize the little brothers!
            You are a good word to them ...
            And they ... fail to attend! wink
      5. +1
        4 March 2020 18: 20
        Excellent! So the bearded tarantines got their "Oscar".
    2. +2
      4 March 2020 15: 43
      A map is good, fewer words and look.
    3. SSR
      +4
      4 March 2020 15: 46
      Quote: primaala
      That's just who gets it!

      On the next branch, copy-paste.
      The operation will continue until the regime’s arms are broken.
      Quote: flicker
      heartbreaking coverage in all kinds of media - all this is the work of Fidan. By the way, the rebellion of 2017, to overthrow Erdogan, is also suspected of him.


      Wow, Fidan is a very, very ambiguous figure. but there is another one who, while sitting in the General Headquarters, "profiled" the conspiracy and was taken hostage.
      Hulusi Akar. He was the 29th chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Turkey. Previously, he also served as commander of the Turkish Ground Forces [2].

      During a coup attempt on July 15, 2016, he was taken hostage by the rebels.

      That is, being the chief of the General Staff, the conspiracy was overthrown, he was held hostage, and now the first violin in the army and his authority has become higher than Erdoganovsky.
      The devil himself will break his legs in their rat-bite bite.
      So we will see. Maybe soon a number of dignitaries will become traitors and culprits.
      1. -1
        4 March 2020 15: 55
        Quote from S.S.R.
        Quote: primaala
        That's just who gets it!

        On the next branch, copy-paste.
        The operation will continue until the regime’s arms are broken.
        Quote: flicker
        heartbreaking coverage in all kinds of media - all this is the work of Fidan. By the way, the rebellion of 2017, to overthrow Erdogan, is also suspected of him.


        Wow, Fidan is a very, very ambiguous figure. but there is another one who, while sitting in the General Headquarters, "profiled" the conspiracy and was taken hostage.
        Hulusi Akar. He was the 29th chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Turkey. Previously, he also served as commander of the Turkish Ground Forces [2].

        During a coup attempt on July 15, 2016, he was taken hostage by the rebels.

        That is, being the chief of the General Staff, the conspiracy was overthrown, he was held hostage, and now the first violin in the army and his authority has become higher than Erdoganovsky.
        The devil himself will break his legs in their rat-bite bite.
        So we will see. Maybe soon a number of dignitaries will become traitors and culprits.

        ========================
        Your logic is akin to ALL (thinking), but the question is - what can we talk about!? When ALL Sochi agreements are violated !? Erdogan Co. (Co-protege of the Americans) all decided long ago - to STEP on Syria, and not allow the Russian Federation to have superiority. What to do???
    4. +16
      4 March 2020 16: 07
      The Turkish adventure failed, not really starting. The countless threats that have sounded from the lips of the Turkish leadership after the death of about a hundred Turkish military over the past month, were expected to be an empty phrase. Neither a declaration of war on Syria, nor the introduction of martial law in Turkey followed; the severance of relations with Russia also did not happen. Despite the numerous radical statements caused by the next round of confrontation, Russia still remains a partner of Turkey, Russian ships sail unhindered through the Bosphorus to Tartus, and the planes of the Russian military transport aircraft hover serenely in the airspace over Turkey, delivering military supplies to Khmeimim.
      But politically, our Turkish partners have significant successes, crossing out all the failures of February. The Turkish president was able to reach Vladimir Putin and even received an invitation to visit Moscow: the meeting of the presidents should be held on March 5-6.
      However, it cannot be said that luck on the battlefield smiled on our Turkish partners. “The descendants of the great conquerors”, as Turkish askers indicate in the Turkish media, managed to place the operational headquarters at the forefront in the battle formations of terrorists - and successfully lose it together with all the personnel from a direct hit by the FAB-500, which suddenly crashed from an unidentified aircraft.
      The data on Turkish losses in this episode vary: the officially declared by the Turks the number of killed - 33 people, the unofficial - more than 100. The number of injured can be 2-3 times more than the killed. In addition, since we are talking about headquarters, senior officers could not help but suffer.
      Given the numerous victims of previous artillery and air strikes on Turkish units, it can be estimated that the support of the terrorists at the moment cost Turkey at least two hundred killed and several hundred wounded askers. Thus, the total loss may well reach as many as five hundred people. In addition, Turks and pro-Turkish terrorists in Idlib lost more than a hundred pieces of armored vehicles.
      Regarding the losses in the manpower of terrorists, it must be taken into account that air strikes have been intensively applied to them for a month now and almost all of the available SAA artillery has been “operating”. The frontal attacks of the terrorists, which are actually being driven into a fire bag under the heavy fire of the Syrian army in the Serakib region, have also led to enormous losses of manpower over the past few days under the sensitive Turkish leadership. The total losses of terrorists for February go to the thousands, and they, terrorists, with such a successful leadership can soon end.
      The only Turkish success was the operation, limited in scale, but with the oriental romantic name “Shield of Spring”. Local attacks on the Syrian units were carried out on February 28-29 using a small number of UAVs and were widely covered in the Turkish media. The Minister of Defense of the Republic of Turkey, General Hulusi Akar, came to coordinate the work of several aircraft. Perhaps that is why these actions have become relatively successful.
      The success of the Turks was short-lived. On March 1, the Syrian air defense system partially launched (S-300PMU-2 air defense systems have not yet been used) - and Turkish UAVs “fell in”: 6 aircraft 4 Bayraktar TB2 and 2 latest TAI Anka-S attack aircraft were shot down in one day, the Turkish Air Force left Only 6 such devices.
      In addition to drones, these days the Turks used F-16 fighters, which shot down two Syrian Su-24s. This was followed by an interesting statement by the head of the Russian center for reconciliation of the warring parties: "Russian troops cannot guarantee the safety of Turkish aviation flights over Syria." This statement is a signal to the Turks about the possible strengthening of Syrian air defense in the area of ​​the Idlib de-escalation zone, and that Turkish manned aircraft have now become a legitimate target, since the Syrian air defense systems were not used on them before.
      Thus, despite the big words, no decisive steps were taken by the Turkish leadership. The warring parties - Turkey and Syria - essentially stand still and exchange more or less equivalent attacks, Erdogan exchanges Turkish soldiers for Syrian soldiers every day in Idlib.
      In this regard, time plays into Assad’s hands: over the long years of the war, the Syrians are accustomed to casualties, now the war is of a national liberation character and the Syrian troops are all the more to die for. The Turks have the opposite situation: any large one-time losses lead to hysteria in Turkish society and leadership, with which the latest inadequate statements are connected. Turkey has no real political goals in Syria, the Turkish people are not morally ready to pay endlessly with blood of their askers for mirages of Ottoman greatness.
      It is important to note that Turkey still does not consider the Russian Federation to be a party to the conflict, both countries remain de facto partners. Rather, it acts as an intermediary between countries and the only force capable of resolving the current situation. That is why Erdogan goes to Moscow.
      In fact, we are talking about a direct conflict between two countries - partners of Russia, one of which the Russian Federation is helping militarily. The role of a mediator is not new to Russia. Almost all conflicts in the post-Soviet space developed according to a similar scenario; Russia still carries out mediation functions in Transnistria, Karabakh and Donbass.
      What is new in this situation is that it is not the head of the post-Soviet state that is going to Moscow to solve his military-political problems, but the president of a Middle Eastern country - a NATO member with the second-largest army in the Alliance and an 83 million-strong population.
      In the post-Soviet space, the role of senior comrade went to Russia in a natural way as the most powerful state formation in the region and Europe. Now Russia, relying on Syria, has a similar position in the Middle East region.
      Thus, everything that happens is a painful process of Turkey entering the zone of Russian influence and building closer Russian-Turkish relations as a partner (Turkey) and a senior partner (Russia) in post-Soviet patterns.
    5. +2
      5 March 2020 02: 53
      primala
      Well yes, sad ....
      Sorry, but you were not 4-5 days ago among those who squealed about the greatest defeat of the Russian Federation and the great army of the Turks ..... yeah - exactly as long as under such difficult conditions the SAA took Serakib back and kept the liberated areas of the South Idlib?
      If not - excuse me - I was probably mistaken - but then immediately the Turkish-Azerbaijani-Ukrainian-liberal rabble appeared a few days ago - you will not remember everyone .... rabble because they lie and do not admit mistakes. or intentional lies .....
      By the way, the Azerbaijani allies of Turkey always surprised me - they, at one time, fought to the death with Turkish enslavers, shoulder to shoulder with some of the Georgian principalities, with the Armenian kingdom - about the same as with the Persians ... and now - aphids , everything is forgotten ..... where is the memory and self-preservation of the people? in the historical chronicles of Soros, or the propaganda of Turkish enslavers? (I recall that Azerbaijanis, Georgians and Armenians then resisted Turkish enslavement almost independently, at their joint request the Russians sent only weapons and about two hundred soldiers who died during the assault by the Turks of the capital of the Armenian kingdom, the Russians simply did not have other forces then ...)
      if you think in vain - forgive me, please. Not from evil. I apologize again ... but only if I made a mistake! :))))
  2. LMN
    +2
    4 March 2020 15: 38
    moreover, the militants themselves in an interview with Al-Jazeera reporters claimed

    Strange war
    1. +5
      4 March 2020 15: 44
      Turks really want to knock out CAA from Serakib and with M5 until tomorrow. Bo tomorrow Uncle Erdogan will politely be asked to stop. But it seems that this idea is Turks kirdyk.
      1. -8
        4 March 2020 15: 49
        They will ask if he refuses?
        1. +6
          4 March 2020 16: 24
          Refuses - they will ask impolitely.
          1. -1
            4 March 2020 19: 08
            Quote: oleg123219307
            Refuses - they will ask impolitely.

            How's that?
            1. +2
              4 March 2020 19: 20
              Like a Georgian in 2008
              1. -1
                4 March 2020 19: 31
                Quote: oleg123219307
                Like a Georgian in 2008

                Nothing that you confused a NATO member country with anyone? laughing
                1. +1
                  4 March 2020 19: 37
                  Quote: Doliva63
                  Nothing that you confused a NATO member country with anyone?

                  NATO will say thank you to us if we break the Turks in Syria, otherwise they will do more harm than good in recent years in relations with NATO and the EU. If NATO needed them - there would already be American ships standing on the shore ...
                  1. -1
                    4 March 2020 19: 55
                    Quote: oleg123219307
                    Quote: Doliva63
                    Nothing that you confused a NATO member country with anyone?

                    NATO will say thank you to us if we break the Turks in Syria, otherwise they will do more harm than good in recent years in relations with NATO and the EU. If NATO needed them - there would already be American ships standing on the shore ...

                    NATO will not tell us anything, but will stupidly fulfill its obligations. But this is me in relation to the aggression of the Russian Federation against Turkey on its territory, of course. And to "break" the Turks in Syria, the Russian Federation has too few forces there. And then, it seems to me, the Yankees and Co. deliberately left there in order to let the Turks pull us out to provoke: if they lose, that's their problem; if the RF is "bent" - a fellow NATO member; and if they provoke the Russian Federation to strike on Turkish territory, at least the sanctions will be toughened to the extreme and the Russian Federation will be shitting openly everywhere, and as a maximum, they will hit ours in Syria. The Russian Federation is not the USSR, which could stop the NATO operation against Libya by simply bringing only 2 ships into the Tripoli raid.
                    1. +2
                      4 March 2020 20: 01
                      Quote: Doliva63
                      NATO will not tell us anything, but will stupidly fulfill its obligations. But this is me in relation to the aggression of the Russian Federation against Turkey on its territory, of course. And to "break" the Turks in Syria, the Russian Federation has too few forces there. And then, it seems to me, the Yankees and Co. deliberately left there in order to let the Turks pull us out to provoke: if they lose, that's their problem; if the RF is "bent" - a fellow NATO member; and if they provoke the Russian Federation to strike on Turkish territory, at least the sanctions will be toughened to the extreme and the Russian Federation will be shitting openly everywhere, and as a maximum, they will hit ours in Syria. The Russian Federation is not the USSR, which could stop the NATO operation against Libya by simply bringing only 2 ships into the Tripoli raid.

                      A complicated combination ... It is possible to impose sanctions against us just like that. As for the bases in Syria - do you really think that these two bases are such a thorn in the eye of NATO to sacrifice Turkey for it? Indeed, if we turn up, then the Turks will come to themselves very, very soon, and no one is going to fight with us seriously over the Turks in NATO - they will live for them, but we don’t touch us yet.
                      1. 0
                        4 March 2020 20: 10
                        Quote: oleg123219307
                        Quote: Doliva63
                        NATO will not tell us anything, but will stupidly fulfill its obligations. But this is me in relation to the aggression of the Russian Federation against Turkey on its territory, of course. And to "break" the Turks in Syria, the Russian Federation has too few forces there. And then, it seems to me, the Yankees and Co. deliberately left there in order to let the Turks pull us out to provoke: if they lose, that's their problem; if the RF is "bent" - a fellow NATO member; and if they provoke the Russian Federation to strike on Turkish territory, at least the sanctions will be toughened to the extreme and the Russian Federation will be shitting openly everywhere, and as a maximum, they will hit ours in Syria. The Russian Federation is not the USSR, which could stop the NATO operation against Libya by simply bringing only 2 ships into the Tripoli raid.

                        A complicated combination ... It is possible to impose sanctions against us just like that. As for the bases in Syria - do you really think that these two bases are such a thorn in the eye of NATO to sacrifice Turkey for it? Indeed, if we turn up, then the Turks will come to themselves very, very soon, and no one is going to fight with us seriously over the Turks in NATO - they will live for them, but we don’t touch us yet.

                        Not only you, but also NATO understand that in connection with the above-mentioned RF, nothing aggressive will be done against Turkey. And Erdogan knows this, and therefore behaves defiantly. As for the value of these two bases, no one knows what anyone has plans for this region. Maybe they do not need anyone. But it could be otherwise. But something else is more important here - the United States aims to squeeze the Russian Federation out of wherever it is, lose weight on the world stage and gradually turn it into the remnants of the Moscow principality - I wouldn’t regret Turkey in their place, if that laughing
                      2. +2
                        4 March 2020 20: 33
                        Quote: Doliva63
                        Not only you, but also NATO understand that in connection with the above-mentioned RF, nothing aggressive will be done against Turkey. And Erdogan knows this, and therefore behaves defiantly. As for the value of these two bases, no one knows what anyone has plans for this region. Maybe they do not need anyone. But it could be otherwise. But something else is more important here - the United States aims to squeeze the Russian Federation out of wherever it is, lose weight on the world stage and gradually turn it into the remnants of the Moscow principality - I wouldn’t regret Turkey in their place, if that

                        We can do something aggressive against Turkey only in one case - if the Turks decide to give us a nose shot and attack our bases and aircraft in Syria. Then they would have a non-fake chance to grab a couple of three hundred calibers and x101 at air bases and communication and logistics centers. And if they start first, then NATO will not even rush to defend them, they will call and politely ask not to be zealous. For as article 5 equates the attack on Turkey with the attack on NATO, the Turkish attack on our bases will be equivalent to declaring war on Russia by Turkey on behalf of NATO. What do you think - do they want in Europe and the United States, so that Erdogan would decide the question of whether he should live with all of them? They will certainly destroy us in the end, but they will also leave a strait between Belarus and Sakhalin. Do they need it?
                      3. +1
                        5 March 2020 19: 17
                        Quote: oleg123219307
                        Quote: Doliva63
                        Not only you, but also NATO understand that in connection with the above-mentioned RF, nothing aggressive will be done against Turkey. And Erdogan knows this, and therefore behaves defiantly. As for the value of these two bases, no one knows what anyone has plans for this region. Maybe they do not need anyone. But it could be otherwise. But something else is more important here - the United States aims to squeeze the Russian Federation out of wherever it is, lose weight on the world stage and gradually turn it into the remnants of the Moscow principality - I wouldn’t regret Turkey in their place, if that

                        We can do something aggressive against Turkey only in one case - if the Turks decide to give us a nose shot and attack our bases and aircraft in Syria. Then they would have a non-fake chance to grab a couple of three hundred calibers and x101 at air bases and communication and logistics centers. And if they start first, then NATO will not even rush to defend them, they will call and politely ask not to be zealous. For as article 5 equates the attack on Turkey with the attack on NATO, the Turkish attack on our bases will be equivalent to declaring war on Russia by Turkey on behalf of NATO. What do you think - do they want in Europe and the United States, so that Erdogan would decide the question of whether he should live with all of them? They will certainly destroy us in the end, but they will also leave a strait between Belarus and Sakhalin. Do they need it?

                        It all depends on what plans the world banking community has. If anything, burying them Europe is not a problem if the income justifies it.
                    2. +2
                      4 March 2020 21: 12
                      NATO will not fight for Turkey, Turkey is a cannon fodder in NATO in the interests of its other members, please remember Greece and strong Armenian lobbies in France and the USA
        2. +6
          4 March 2020 16: 25
          Turks are casting missile positions and air bombs and not we will say this, but the Turks will confirm, the Syrians will say it.
          1. +6
            4 March 2020 16: 33
            The Syrians Dot-U fucked at the militants. Video from the link below.
            “As a result of the shelling of our forces by the regime in the area of ​​the Shield of Spring operation, one of our comrade-in-arms was killed and nine were seriously injured,” Akara said in a statement.

            Syrians report that a strike on the cluster of militants was dealt by the Tochka-U operational-tactical complex. Among the terrorists, however, not the first time, there were Turkish soldiers.

            http://in24.org/world/38836
            1. +1
              4 March 2020 16: 46
              wow what they have, good babahalka))
  3. -39
    4 March 2020 15: 39
    Turkey should be given the north of Syria, and a pocket Alawite state should be organized.
    1. +9
      4 March 2020 16: 42
      Deniska999, everything is correct, just correct it a little. The Turks need to leave half of Turkey, let them create their own "Asker state" for the joy of those who wish. But we deservedly take Constantinople and the Straits for ourselves, plus Syria, and give up the neighboring provinces.
      1. +1
        4 March 2020 17: 30
        Turks need to leave half of Turkey

        The "Angora Emirate" with its capital in Angora (Ankara) and goats with the best fluff (Angora) is enough for them.
      2. +1
        4 March 2020 21: 15
        Well, after the collapse of Turkey and NATO, Greece may take over part of Constantinople, and the pro-European Turks will separate from Anatolia and also climb into the EU, we would not like that either, so for now Erdogan is the best of the worst
    2. -3
      4 March 2020 18: 39
      Turkey should be given the straits to Russia, Sinop is the city of military glory of Russia, so part of Armenia, part of Georgia, well, what and who should be taken there, we are not greedy, and we don’t need the rest.
  4. +13
    4 March 2020 15: 42
    Our guys and GS need to draw invaluable experience from a collision with a technological rival, even the states do not have such experience.
  5. +1
    4 March 2020 15: 44
    All these round dances resemble the situation in Aleppo and the sincere gatherings of Lavrov and Kerry, after which the barmalei regrouped a little with new forces and launched attacks
    1. -3
      4 March 2020 16: 05
      ... flirting OUR. What to hope for !? Busurman to mind !?
      An empty lesson. ALL musliks (in any case) will support each other.
      (we argue) not a "question" for you.
  6. +9
    4 March 2020 15: 45
    Well if
    . Turkey successfully uses drones, which allowed a number of world publications to talk about a new method of conducting modern warfare,
    why winked
    .
    the Syrian army is slowly but successfully pushing back militants, freeing one settlement after another
    1. 0
      4 March 2020 16: 10
      So it’s written that slowly pushes aside, rather than quickly smashes
  7. -18
    4 March 2020 15: 49
    "The operation cost Turkey at least 55 human lives." ///
    ----
    If so, then almost zero losses.
    After all, 37 of them died in one place from the bombs.
    1. +14
      4 March 2020 15: 56
      A warrior, this is an information war, to believe such tales about just a little more than fifty killed Turkish military is stupid. But Erdogad will not be able to name the exact number of killed his soldiers, because he will immediately be sent after them! Therefore, the sultash is lying.
      1. +3
        4 March 2020 16: 07
        Thrifty
        Warrior, this is an information war.
        Yes, he only believes what he wants to believe. Do not dissuade the disease, then he will be a surprise.
    2. +12
      4 March 2020 15: 58
      Alas, this is not the case, the Turks themselves are already talking about heavy losses and "lying power". And where do the authorities go? To admit that the war with Syria can be much more difficult than with the Kurds? It is also necessary to take into account that the main losses are taken by Turkish proxies, and they do not appear in statistical calculations!
      PS But the minuses I see have already instructed you. request
    3. +3
      4 March 2020 16: 03
      The Turks have hundreds of at least 200, with a load of XNUMX per month. And no one in Istanbul has really condemned Erdig, so European democracy there apparently didn’t take root, as they joined NATO, such intolerant laughing
    4. +3
      4 March 2020 16: 16
      Turks unofficially write that about 300 killed and 1000 wounded
      1. -5
        4 March 2020 16: 24
        Including Turkoman fighters, which - their main striking force - may well be.
      2. -1
        4 March 2020 20: 20
        Where do they write, who writes? Write and 100500 can, the main thing is who
        1. -1
          5 March 2020 06: 55
          on the Turkish Internet, so the Internet was banned
    5. 0
      4 March 2020 16: 56
      Warrior, the operation in Idlib in the last month alone cost Turkey at least 200 soldiers, and how many for 3 years of "support" - there are many thousands of Turkish soldiers' coffins.
      1. -2
        4 March 2020 17: 09
        The Turks on the page of their Defense Ministry publish data on losses. They have it strictly. There are currently 54 dead. So you should not present the desired for the real.
        1. 0
          5 March 2020 08: 25
          KURT330, 54 dead - for what period? If in the last couple of weeks, then it is possible and so, and then this is only in Syria, and in fact they are also robustly perishing in Libya, one bombed ship is worth something. Plus, unforgettable about the special forces, "vacationers" disguised as Turkomans and so on. In fact, it is not in vain that all social networks are turned off, in Mezhilis, deputies are fighting and Syrian shops in Turkey are being smashed, you cannot hide the truth from the relatives of hundreds of killed Turkish soldiers. The country is objectively split and on the verge of an explosion, Erdogan will bury himself and his state with adventures in Idlib and Libya. Moreover, he will finally anger Europe against Turkey, he will be answered harshly for the rabies, so that economic default is not far off. One salvation for Recep is to accept all the conditions of Vladimir Vladimirovich today.
    6. +2
      5 March 2020 03: 41
      voyaka uh
      Hello.
      When, before the well-known recent exacerbation, Turkey officially recognized supposedly 33 shades a day, one-time, due to our actions, she notified in the same statement. that there are only eight hundred of them that day more than eighty ... etc. etc. yeah, without three hundredths ... well - it’s clear - the reason for the recognition is to untie your hands and defend against the owner of the occupied land who suddenly attacked the occupier ... :)))
      BUT this is lyrics ....
      Of course, if the Turks do not consider their Turkmens -
      and they do not count them - a thousand - there - a thousand - here - what difference does Allah make - remember that more than four thousand nalivniks with "personnel" burned by our aviation - the Turks were abyd. unpleasant - but far from fatal ...
      .- then their losses are quite modest :)))
      by the standards of the region - according to official Turkish data, from the beginning of the year they lost in Syria no more than a battalion of sanitary and irretrievable losses ...
      For me - a lot ... but Erdogan has already bothered his electorate that they killed more than two thousand Syrians .... what. to put it mildly, it’s funny, and it raises suspicion that the elections are EVIL ... :))))
      No, you can lie like Goebbels, you can, like the American-European partners about us ... but, aphids. someone is lying like the Ukrainian regime or the Turks ... well, too much ... :))))
      The Syrians - they lie about the same way as the Turks with the current Ukrainian regime - but I personally have them:)) _))) no complaints - Arabs. sir ... :)))) Yes, and after so many years of war ... to criticize their hand does not rise .... no kidding ...
      And as a whole - for the half-million army - the losses are zero ... yes ... the trouble is different - firstly, there are more losses. Even the recognized and Army Losses - both in Syria and Iraq, especially in Libya ... Further - with a significant number of Turkish Ground Forces, combat-ready formations and even units, Turkey has very few ... or rather, shish yes a little .... though, of course. if you pull yourself hard, they’ll degenerate something ....
      the division and twelve brigades in the Syrian direction were able to create in emergency order (no joke) only 2 BTGs, we don’t touch the special forces, although the Turkish special forces brigade is incomplete. but definitely combat-ready ... but as a whole - a sad story ...
      Erdogan and I are careful - and we destroy the Turks either by accident or the places where the MANPADS worked ... but the Iranians recently blurted out about that. that if their formations are affected, then hi ballistic missiles for vulnerable targets .... the first threat of this kind to Turkey from Iran ....
      . And the Turks and you understand - this is not an empty threat, just like a non-empty threat - a quiet, calm RF .... quiet. calmly introduced the formation of the air forces in Sarakib .... recaptured from the Turks after the seemingly finest hour of the Turkish warriors ... with our central newspapers deliberately quieted down on the Turkish theme ... I'm not joking - it is - the central newspapers are trying not to hurt now Turks, although they show full support to the Syrians ....
      Comrade warrior, I don’t sit on the couch and don’t throw my hats .... but, I believe, the Turkish successes are temporary, the Turkish threats, as enough strange commentators squealed here, are significant, but surmountable ... and considering the fact that to inflict we can do more harm to the Turks than they do to us - I doubt that they will go to a very severe aggravation .... But they will go - they will receive, although we won’t get any better from it - I just don’t see the joy that our troops will tell what the number of enemy without any purpose ....
      Although, if I were your compatriot, I would like us to fight ... - well, that’s the situation, you are innocent .... although I absolutely do not need to establish this fact by me personally ... :)))) )))
  8. +6
    4 March 2020 15: 53
    We need to do our best to keep the Serakib fork and the M5 highway! It is VERY sorry that we could not take the M4 highway! Good luck, guys!!!
    1. +4
      4 March 2020 16: 17
      but they have progressed well to m4, now every day along the m4 vks strike
      1. +8
        4 March 2020 16: 25
        It's like that. But M4 is not taken yet! Of course, Erdogan was VERY interfered. If it weren’t for him, then, I think, I could have freed all Idlib before Darath.
      2. +1
        4 March 2020 18: 44
        which indirectly confirms a certain agreement
        that the Turks do not touch our videoconferencing, and ours work exclusively on broads
  9. -8
    4 March 2020 16: 23
    the Turks did spectacularly with drones, ours so far cannot
  10. 0
    4 March 2020 16: 28
    He considered the title photo.
    I tried to understand why a fighter shoots so with a machine gun.
    The trinity is not like sniper crew.
    Or is the sniper in a different disguised position and looking for probable targets that will reveal themselves with return fire?
    Please explain who understands.
    1. +1
      4 March 2020 16: 33
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBcUpTNUmh0&has_verified=1 смотреть с 29.30, это огонь на подавление был
    2. -1
      4 March 2020 19: 21
      I tried to understand why a fighter shoots so with a machine gun.


      Arab wars. I suppose that he wants to shoot the moon or Mars. laughing
    3. 0
      4 March 2020 21: 34
      I watched the entire video, this is the moment when the infantry was forced to retreat. The Syrians freed the n / a, but it didn’t succeed. And the whole line, covering each other, ran out of the garden (olives), and then the shaft was made of stones. Here they are holding the defense. The video group of the Russian Federation fixes this all. Soon the soldiers will go on the attack.
    4. +1
      4 March 2020 22: 54
      Quote: Livonetc
      Please explain who understands.

      Recently I watched a video of how a platoon of tigers attacked the school .. at Anna News .., in general, they are running in a crowd across the field towards the school .. fall into the oncoming fire .. are absorbed by shelters .. one wounded ..
      And here I also had a question .. The Russian MS platoon is 4 brt, BMP, several RMBs, SVD and GM of various types .. from AGS to manual ones .. and if Russian ms moved to this school, then it would work in parallel with it several auto-barrels with a caliber of up to 30 mm .., I'm not talking about mortar processing before the attack .. not so much to drive shelter for the defenders, but also to clear the direction of the attack .. It would be unlikely that the artillery team at school would be able to resist there for a long time .., but the Syrians are fighting like that ... even them and
      elite parts ..
      It’s hard for me to understand them .. after 4 years of the war, the Red Army became a machine capable of grinding any amount of equipment and manpower.,. having developed both strategically and tactical and field combat techniques for any conditions, which allowed to radically reduce combat losses, without loss of effectiveness.
      Arabs fight as much as they can ..
  11. +5
    4 March 2020 16: 30
    Is it not time for the Syrians to declare that in fact starting a war on the side of the bearded, Turkey violated not only all agreements, but also international standards, in fact, starting an undeclared war with Syria, moreover, on its territory. Syria to demand, within ten days to withdraw all Turkish armed forces from the territory of Syria. The time for the withdrawal of Turkish roadblocks located in Syria-controlled territory is three days. After that, the Turkish forces remaining in Syria and unblocked checkpoints and strong points lose their contractual status, guarantee security and must be destroyed like the forces of the occupying forces.
    How much to play cat and mouse! Why, having started everything "good" in Syria, have gradually slipped to the point that now, everything is "bad"? We are forced to endure the sultan's antics, his flirtations with NATO and the United States to increase pressure on us and Syria! So you can lose everything and return to 2015.
  12. -3
    4 March 2020 16: 59
    What about Suheil? Alive though?
  13. -10
    4 March 2020 17: 05
    Assad said that he has no problems with Turkey laughing Did he have a tongue unleashed after Suheil? They say rear-wheel drive Suheil threw back flippers.
  14. -4
    4 March 2020 17: 44
    They suffered losses ... if the Turks tell the truth about the losses of the Syrian Army, in tanks, aotillerii, airplanes, manpower ..... then these losses are militants zilch ..
    I would like to know the whole truth ... but this is probably impossible.
    1. +1
      4 March 2020 22: 57
      Quote: 1970mk
      if the Turks are telling the truth about the losses of the Syrian Army

      That the Turks should already be close to Damascus .. however, they can’t even cut the M5 .. and they are so good at the upcoming talks ..
  15. +1
    4 March 2020 18: 11
    Western cryo-defenders "raised a howl. Everything is as usual.
  16. +1
    4 March 2020 18: 38
    The mistake probably lies in the fact that the bearded uncles were allowed to leave, they were even taken away. .... And so it all came together in one place. And then they have nowhere to run.
  17. +1
    4 March 2020 18: 48
    Hang on to Syria, help is already going by sea and by air ..
  18. 0
    5 March 2020 09: 32
    Quote: Vladimir61
    How much to play cat and mouse! Why, having started everything "good" in Syria, have gradually slipped to the point that now, everything is "bad"? We are forced to endure the sultan's antics, his flirtations with NATO and the United States to increase pressure on us and Syria! So you can lose everything and return to 2015.

    Why is it bad there? The Turks could not break further than Idlib province. Drones for the most part have already shot down. We already sent our anti-aircraft gunners there. On earth, the Syrian army is holding back the Turks and Barmels.
  19. 0
    5 March 2020 10: 38
    1. This morning I watched Turkish television TRT - Turkish casualties in Idlib 59 people only dead. Their allies lost several hundred. The Jacobite Turks vyiveli and built more than 3 thousand Syrian soldiers, but these are fairy tales. According to the London "Syrian" Observatory for Human Rights, 150 government soldiers and their allies were killed by Turkish strikes and many more were wounded.
    2. In Turkish drones, the altitude and flight speed are such that they can be completely knocked down by the old barrel anti-aircraft artillery - 57 mm and 85 mm. In addition, if you equip Yak-50/52 training machine guns, they will also be able to shoot down drones quite well. Better yet, have something like the Yak-9.
  20. 0
    5 March 2020 19: 02
    Quote: dvina71
    Arabs fight as much as they can ..

    Well, they don’t
    4 brt, bmp, several RMBs, SVD and GM different types .. from AGS to manual.

    Have you seen the 4000 sun division? This she is the 25th division. It’s good if AK is there for everyone.
    A terrible lack of everything and everything.
    To translate the combat charter of the ground forces into Arabic and even to train is not the most difficult.
  21. +1
    6 March 2020 04: 03
    "In February 2020 alone, the Syrian operation cost Turkey at least 55 human lives. With all Ankara's warlike mood, sooner or later, such losses of personnel will cause discontent in Turkish society."
    Well, the losses are not so great as to cause discontent. It has already been repeatedly written here in the comments “predicted” that the existing losses and financial circumstances will stop the Turks. Forget Turkey's eternal "Chechnya" with Kurds on its territory and society has long been accustomed to moderate losses, on the contrary, they cause a rise in patriotism. Stop the Turks and completely abandon their plans, only serious damage, namely the defeated southern Turkish group.