Zulfikar. The sword of the prophet in the Caucasus


Zulfikar from Kubachi


According to legend, Zulfikar is the most famous sword of pre-Islamic Arabia. This unique sword belonged to one of the noble representatives of the Quraishite tribe from Mecca - Munabbiu ibn Hajjaj. The Quraysh, who own Mecca, but not all converted to Islam, became natural opponents of Muhammad, who in Medina began to form an army. The first clashes were minor until March 624.

On March 17, 624, the Battle of Badr took place (the western part of Saudi Arabia in the Medina region). This battle was of little military significance, since on both sides the death toll did not exceed 7% of all participants in the battle. However, the political and religious significance of the Battle of Badr cannot be overestimated. The most amazing legends began to compose about her. According to one of them, on the side of the Muslims ... angels fought. One way or another, but this was the first battle in which Muhammad showed his strength and his army.

Zulfikar. The sword of the prophet in the Caucasus
Battle of Badr

At the same time, Muhammad was a passionate collector weaponsin particular swords. During the traditional division of the trophies, the prophet fell into the hands of a beautiful sword - Zulfikar, who once belonged to Quraish Munabbi. Due to the fact that Zulfikar fell into the hands of the prophet himself, human rumor quickly endowed him with miraculous properties and unprecedented impact power.

After the death of Muhammad, the sword fell into the hands of Caliph Ali ibn Abu Talib, who was considered a great warrior. Even then, the sword supposedly knew how to hang in the air, and the power of its blow increased every day until it became equal to the blow of a thousand soldiers. And here comes the moment when folklore and religion finally erase historical the truth. According to the Sunni version, Zulfikar went to the Ottoman sultans through the hands of the sons of Ali and is now kept in the Topkapi Palace Museum in Istanbul. The Shiites believe that the sword passed into the hands of the imams and is now hidden with the twelfth imam al-Mahdi, who will appear before the end of the world.

What did the sword look like?


The same legends and myths that surround the origin and history of Zulfikar completely clouded his appearance. There is a legend that one of the owners of the sword, Caliph Ali ibn Abu Talib, once committed negligence by removing it from its scabbard, which caused the blade to split in half. At the same time, one side of the sword was given only the opportunity to kill, and the other - to heal. From such a very vague legend, many views on Zulfikar appeared.


Some believed that the sword was actually a saber with two points. Others claimed that under the forked blade due to inaccuracies in the retelling of the legends was simply a double-edged sword. Some even saw Zulfikar as a sword with a single, in fact, a blade, but dissected by a lobe. There was an opinion that Zulfikar took the form of a Turkish scimitar, despite the fact that scimitars are much “younger” than the events of the beginning of the 7th century. Most likely, such views formed due to the fact that the Ottomans claimed succession from Muhammad.

It is not necessary to talk about some exceptional fighting qualities of Zulfikar, except in legends. However, the sword carried a powerful political and ritual implication. Not for nothing that the same Turkish Janissaries decorated their banners with the image of Zulfikar, more precisely, with the way they saw him. Zulfikar was also placed on the graves of fallen soldiers. And on the blades it was often possible to meet such an engraving: “There is no sword except Zulfikar, there is no hero except Ali!”

The possession of such a sword among the military leaders and nobility almost automatically created an aura of communication around them, not with anyone, but with the prophet himself and his imams. And, of course, it boosted the military spirit. Each battle became a battle, not just for land and wealth, but for faith, and this is a powerful factor in motivation.

Nadir Shah and his Zulfikar


Nadir Shah Afshar, the founder of the Afsharid dynasty and the Shahins of Iran, looked at the Caucasus as his patrimony. Despite the internal fragmentation of his empire and endless intrigues, Nadir, being a military leader and leading a nomadic way of life, in 1736 won the East Caucasus from the Turks, annexing Shemakha, Baku and Derbent to the empire. During its heyday, the empire of Nadir controlled not only Iran and Azerbaijan, but also Armenia, Georgia, Afghanistan, the Khanate of Bukhara, and in 1739 Nadir stormed Delhi in India.


Nadir shah

According to legend, Nadir Shah was the owner of an elegant Zulfikar. Some believe that this may well be the sword of the prophet himself, but there is no reason to believe this in principle. However, this does not in any way detract from the legendary character of Zulfikar Nadir Shah. The famous Avar poet Rasul Gamzatov dedicated the following verses to this sword (saber):

King of kings - the great Nadir
I glorified, sparkling and ringing,
And in twenty campaigns he is half the world
Could conquer with the help of me.

Nadir Shah, considered a great conqueror, began a campaign against Dagestan in 1741, led by an army of 100 to 150 thousand soldiers. The great army was divided and moved to conquer the fragmented Dagestan in different ways. At the same time, the local khanates and their rulers were preparing for a long war, which Nadir did not expect. The war dragged on for years with varying success for both sides. As a result, the shahinshah’s campaign ended in failure.

Naturally, this war could not but find reflection in folklore. The Avar epic “The Battle with Nadir Shah” and the Sheki song “Epic about the Hero of Murtazali” saw the light of day. There was a place in the legends for Zulfikar Nadir. In this case, the conqueror Zulfikar was very different from those described above. It was a sword with two blades mounted on one handle. There were legends about him, according to which the whistle of the wind in this sword with a wave stunned the enemy and terrified him. The Shahinshah so skillfully wielded his sword that, upon impact, the blades closed in the victim's body and pulled out a piece of meat at once. With a blow to the head, Nadir could immediately cut off both ears of the unfortunate one.

All the same legends say that the loss of the famous sword in battle was the cause of the defeat of the Shakhinshah in Dagestan. One way or another, but along with the war, Nadir Shah brought to the land of Dagestan a surge of fashion for the Zulfikars. Famous Dagestan masters from Kubachi and the now abandoned Amuzgi created real masterpieces of jewelry art. Despite the inapplicability in battle, until the beginning of the 20th century, small batches of elegant Zulfikirs from Kubachi and Amuzgi found their buyers.

Kubachinsky Zulfikar


Now in the Dagestan museums are stored two Zulfikara, the owner of which could be Nadir Shah. One sword is kept in the village of Kubachi, and the second in the Dagestan State Joint Museum in Makhachkala. At the same time, some consider it to be the Kubachi sword Nadir’s sword, while others consider the sword from Makhachkala. However, there is no clear historical evidence for either.


Kubachinsky Zulfikar

But the author is more interested in the Kubachin instance. Kubachi, located in the mountains at an altitude of about 1700 meters above sea level, has long been famous for its craftsmen. In 1924, the artisan artel was organized in the village, which eventually grew up in the Kubachi art factory. A small museum now operates at the plant. It is in it that Zulfikar is stored with an unusually thin engraving on the handle in the form of an animal head.

According to the deputy director of the plant Alikhan Urganaev, there is no documentary evidence that the Kubachi Zulfikar belonged to Nadir Khan. But one of the main arguments for the apologists of the Kubachin theory of Nadir Shah and his sword is the fact that it was the museum of the plant that was repeatedly subjected to robbery. And each time the robbers hunted for the Zulfikar.

For the first time in 1993, the robbery was weighed down by the murder of one of the watchmen. But the police worked quickly. From a helicopter it was possible to find a car of criminals, which could not cope with the mountain "serpentine". The sword returned to the museum, and the robbers were sent to prison. At the same time, a rumor passed that the customer of the robbery was one of the Iranian billionaires, ready to give a million dollars for a sword.

In 2000, when the Caucasus flared up again with war, the Kubachin Zulfikar was again threatened. Gangs of militants from Chechnya hoped to seize the sword, which, according to legend, endowed the owner with powerful force. Fortunately, the work of arms art was not affected.


The last time the robbers managed to steal a sword in June 2017. The crime was straightforward. Taking advantage of the fact that the museum, like the combine, was guarded by only one watchman, who needed a lot of time to go around the whole complex of buildings, the robbers got inside, breaking the door, and simply carried out almost 30% of the exhibits. Among the six graceful sabers was Zulfikar.

Power departments were raised to their ears. The national relic, which is the property not only of Dagestan, but of the whole of Russia, could well have sailed abroad. Moreover, its value was estimated from three million rubles to two million euros. Therefore, the Kubachintsy did not even dream that the relic would ever be returned. Fortunately, they despaired early. Employees were able to enter the organizer of the theft and its participants under the guise of buyers. As a result, it turned out that the organizer (a native of Dagestan) and the performers met in places not so distant, then made a crime plan.

Zulfikar and all other stolen artifacts returned to their native museum.
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  1. Kote Pan Kokhanka 7 March 2020 05: 44 New
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    Many thanks to the author!
    For almost four years, the East Wind has pleased us with multifaceted works that unite only two geolocation points - the Black Sea and the Caucasus !!!
    I don’t know how others, but I learned a lot from his works!
    Regards, Vlad!
    1. Catfish 7 March 2020 05: 57 New
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      Good morning Vlad! I sincerely join your assessment. good
      1. Phil77 7 March 2020 06: 05 New
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        Good morning! Well, let me also express my gratitude to the author, and join such a respectable company! hi
        1. Kote Pan Kokhanka 7 March 2020 07: 03 New
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          Hello Sergey and Konstantin sincerely glad to your company!
          The possession of the two-blade blade is attributed to Timurlan. Many legends and beliefs are also connected.
          1. Phil77 7 March 2020 07: 15 New
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            In general, it is interesting to know this sword is functional in itself? Or, as it is written in the article, a purely political and ritual subtext.
            1. Kote Pan Kokhanka 7 March 2020 07: 41 New
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              Two-blade blades have their own specifics, but are quite functional. Upon impact, the blades diverge by 1-3 cm, which makes it difficult to parry the impact. Some made a whistle, which sang with a wave. In general, in order to work with such a blade, you need to gain experience.
              No wonder the evolution of the checker came down to weight loss, and two blades - this is + 2/3 of the total mass of weapons!
              Friends tried to repeat Timurlan's saber, all attempts were unsuccessful blades broke from the blow!
              1. Salty 7 March 2020 07: 49 New
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                Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
                Timurlan

                And Murlim Murlo.
                1. Gato 7 March 2020 10: 29 New
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                  Quote: SaltY
                  And Murlim Murlo.

                  Ironically in vain. Colleague Kote writes correctly. In various Persian sources, the Iranized nickname Timur Lang (Timūr Lang, تیمور لنگ) "Timur Lromoy" (Pedivikia) is often found.
                  1. Salty 7 March 2020 10: 45 New
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                    Quote: Gato
                    In various Persian sources, the Iranized nickname Timur Lyang is often found

                    There is a common spelling in Russian. You do not write "Kazakhstan", for example?
                    1. Phil77 7 March 2020 10: 50 New
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                      However, the dynasty after him is known precisely as the Timurids. Regards. hi
                    2. Gato 7 March 2020 11: 00 New
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                      There is a common spelling in Russian

                      Murlim Murlo is also a common spelling? tongue
                      1. Salty 7 March 2020 11: 01 New
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                        Quote: Gato
                        Murlim Murlo is also a common spelling?

                        No. It is inspired by Tamurlan. love
                    3. Kote Pan Kokhanka 7 March 2020 11: 31 New
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                      In Russian historical literature, both names Timur and Timurlan are used!
                      hi
              2. svp67 7 March 2020 07: 56 New
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                Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
                Upon impact, the blades diverge by 1-3 cm, which makes it difficult to parry the impact.

                What it is possible to doubt, he did not completely diverge, but this sword had to inflict strong wounds upon impact ...
                1. Kote Pan Kokhanka 7 March 2020 10: 43 New
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                  It is believed that with a sharp wave (shock).
                  It was played similarly, familiar guys tried to make a replica of the saber of Timur the conqueror. Summed up the need for a rope performance. The blades broke.
                  So nothing happened.
                  Although like a weapon is very wayward. Heavier, always strikes the brush when hit, but whistled in sweetness.
                  In fact, its value is only in parades, and it’s possible with horse cabin, if you get used to it.
                  1. Phil77 7 March 2020 11: 06 New
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                    Vladislav! But let me ask you a question. Why did Timur turn into Tamerlane? With whose * easy * hand? I rummaged, searched, but alas, I couldn’t find an answer! Is it really that the respected Gato wrote after mentioning it in Persian sources?
                    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka 7 March 2020 11: 25 New
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                      I was interested in this issue about 20 years ago. In short.
                      Timur the Conqueror, Timur the Lion of Samarkand, Timur the lame was trite chrome. This is confirmed by his contemporaries and the results of the study of the remains.
                      Lang or Lange translation from Uzbek lame. Thus, given the difficulty of translation in Europe, this paradox has become entrenched.
                      Given the system of dissemination of information during the period under review, it is still amazing how little he got off.
                      For example, our domestic re-trading of Batu Khan (Tsar Batu), as well as an emotional insertion through the line "" !!!
                      With Timur, information about his exploits penetrated at least 7-10 countries in which they spoke in 6-7 languages! So the fact is essentially banal. Only among a number of members of the forum who consider themselves advanced causes classic incontinence.
                      Another example: the name of Vanka in different countries:
                      - Ivan;
                      - Jan;
                      - Jacob;
                      - John;
                      - Jean;
                      - Juan;
                      - John;
                      Further sense to continue to eat!
                      Or in the Bible - Jesus, in the Quran - Isa !!! The same character !!!!
                      Well, somewhere like that!
                      1. Phil77 7 March 2020 11: 32 New
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                        Clearly understandable! Thank you, the answer is always informative, detailed. Well, a certain measure of elegance is present! hi hi hi
                      2. Trilobite Master 7 March 2020 11: 59 New
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                        Greetings, Vlad.
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                        - Jacob;

                        Jacob is another name. Ganglings - Jack, Jacques, Jacopo, etc.
                        And to the series of "Ivanov" I would certainly add the German Hans. The same Vanya. smile
                        Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
                        Or in the Bible - Jesus, in the Quran - Isa

                        And in Poland - Jerzy. With emphasis on the first syllable, naturally. And there is also the name Yuzyk, in my opinion, it is used in Volyn or in Galicia. smile
                      3. 3x3zsave 7 March 2020 12: 23 New
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                        Michael! hi
                        It was only yesterday that Nikolai was told that Guinevere in Norman-French was Genevieve. And he called me Lancelot. crying laughing
                      4. Trilobite Master 7 March 2020 12: 39 New
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                        My respect, Anton.
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                        And he called me Lancelot.

                        And you would answer him: "I hear from Kolyan." smile
                      5. Phil77 7 March 2020 12: 43 New
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                        Hello Michael! A little more time and * Kolyan * may cause a new concept. And? fellow
                      6. Trilobite Master 7 March 2020 12: 48 New
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                        Greetings to Sergey.
                        Yes, certain purely small-town jokes are already taking shape here, incomprehensible to the neophytes of the section, to take the same tank ... smile Why don't Kolyan become the same? Time will tell... smile
                    2. 3x3zsave 7 March 2020 13: 06 New
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                      No, too primitive. I have one insidious idea ... If Lieutenant Rzhevsky is so popular, why can't “Captain Mikhailov” gain the same fame?
                    3. Trilobite Master 7 March 2020 15: 08 New
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                      I have one insidious idea ...

                      Lieutenant Rzhevsky accumulated the exploits of all the hussars of his time. This image is certainly collective.
                      Do you propose to “captain Mikhailov” to delegate all our achievements and send him an imperative kick in history? I don’t mind, but if the girl of Nicholas learns about my "exploits" as about his own ... I'm afraid the personal happiness of a good person may be in jeopardy. laughing
                    4. 3x3zsave 7 March 2020 15: 17 New
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                      Well, I'm not so cynical and cherish our friendship too much. Something like Harms' literary jokes is planned, with the unassuming title of "Life and the Amazing Adventures of Captain Mikhailov (from denunciations)"
                    5. Trilobite Master 7 March 2020 16: 06 New
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                      Then let's start. laughing
                      The first adventure.
                      Once captain Mikhailov dressed as a bunny, went into the wild forest for a walk and got lost. Suddenly a hunter jumps out of the bushes and shoots directly at him. Puff-puff, oh-oh-oh! The captain fell dead. The hunter took it and brought it to his home. At the hunter's house, Captain Mikhailov came to life and issued an administrative protocol for the hunter for illegal hunting without a license.
                      So the savvy captain, without any effort, got out of the wild forest, and at the same time he chopped down a stick for reporting.

                      There are also plots on the topic "Captain Mikhailov had a dog, he loved her" and "Once upon a time there were captain Mikhailov and Major Pronin, eating porridge with milk."
                      Well, the longest story, which, probably, cannot be published without cuts, “Captain Mikhailov got out of the tram, there’s a beer house on the mountain” ...
                      It's all right? laughing
                    6. 3x3zsave 7 March 2020 16: 11 New
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                      "And Captain Mikhailov is already eager for shameful tales, which tells in the middle of the maids of the yard, introducing them into embarrassment and great art."
              3. Kote Pan Kokhanka 7 March 2020 20: 32 New
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                Quote: 3x3zsave
                No, too primitive. I have one insidious idea ... If Lieutenant Rzhevsky is so popular, why can't “Captain Mikhailov” gain the same fame?

                Natasha Rostov how will you share !!!? laughing
              4. 3x3zsave 7 March 2020 20: 36 New
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                It’s like in that joke: “Sanya, what the hell, this Natasha! Che, we won’t find any women ?!”
  • abrakadabre 7 March 2020 10: 08 New
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    Two-blade blades have their own specifics, but are quite functional.
    Not. Not functional compared to normal.
    Upon impact, the blades diverge by 1-3 cm, which makes it difficult to parry the impact.
    They are already divorced. This does not affect the parry. From the word at all. Because the change in the trajectory between the blades in the main plane does not occur. And when parrying, the blade is substituted in principle across both. To make parrying more difficult, dual blades must either behave like a whip or attack the enemy from different directions, at least from different levels.
    Some made a whistle, which sang with a wave.
    This is of no military value. Demonstration of the craftsmanship of the manufacturer, pleasant to the manufacturer a radical increase in price and a sweet show for the customer / owner.
    In general, in order to work with such a blade, you need to gain experience.
    In general, for a fight it is better to take a normal blade. You’ll be whole.
    No wonder the evolution of checkers came down to weight loss
    The checker first evolved from an auxiliary knife in the direction of increasing size and weight. And to replace the normal sword and saber. And this happened because of the first relief, and then the withdrawal from the use of armor. And then it began to evolve in the direction of relief and a small reduction in size because the development of a firearm sharply reduced the ability to approach the enemy by the distance of a cold weapon strike. And wearing a big fool just like that is tiring. A complete analogy with the evolution of civilian epee in Europe.
    Friends tried to repeat Timurlan's saber, all attempts were unsuccessful blades broke from the blow!
    Your friends made a mistake in the heat treatment, or chose inappropriate steel, or both. Or they tried to give the blade a load like a sledgehammer. Blades in battle tried not to hit hard objects. And do not put a hard block on the enemy’s weapons. It is because of the opportunity to damage or break the hardened blade.
    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka 7 March 2020 11: 40 New
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      Divorced blades cannot be sheathed!
    2. Trilobite Master 7 March 2020 12: 30 New
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      abrakadabre (Valery) Today, 10: 08
      Good comment.
      Personally, I have been trying for a long time to understand what could be the practical meaning of two blades on one hilt. Clever nothing came to mind. Then, not so long ago, he read several ancient fencing treatises and, to his surprise, discovered that indeed
      Quote: abrakadabre
      Blades in battle tried not to hit hard objects. And do not put a hard block on the enemy’s weapons. It is because of the ability to damage or break the hardened blade.

      that is, the vast majority of fencing scenes in cinema, where participants from all over dope beat iron on iron - complete nonsense.
      If it is necessary to parry precisely with a blade, the enemy’s blow was taken not on the blade, but on the side surface of the blade — a stiffener or dol, and the blade was never exposed perpendicular to the plane of impact, the essence of the parry was to “wipe” the enemy’s blade from the trajectory of its movement.
      But with such a defense technique, a double blade can have some advantages over the usual one - you can catch an enemy blade between your two.
      1. Salty 7 March 2020 12: 34 New
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        Quote: Trilobite Master
        a double blade may have some advantages over a conventional one - you can catch an enemy’s blade between your two

        Then your “double” sword will become a single sword. Doubtful advantage.
        1. Trilobite Master 7 March 2020 12: 51 New
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          Quote: SaltY
          Then your “double” sword will become a single sword.

          Why? I see absolutely no reason for such a categorical statement.
          1. Salty 7 March 2020 12: 56 New
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            Quote: Trilobite Master
            Why?

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            the blade was never exposed perpendicular to the plane of impact

            Let’s clarify the problem: “catching” means catching a chopping blow between the “double sword” blades?
          2. Trilobite Master 7 March 2020 14: 57 New
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            Quote: SaltY
            Let’s clarify the problem: “catching” means catching a chopping blow between the “double sword” blades?

            Yes exactly. And here it all depends on the design of the blade, the characteristics of the material, etc. Theoretically, the blades may not converge at all until the guard. The gunsmith could forge two clinics from one steel strip with shanks to each other, temper them, let go of the middle of the strip and bend it 180 degrees, and then attach pommel and guard to this construction - here’s the double saber. smile
          3. Salty 7 March 2020 16: 29 New
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            Quote: Trilobite Master
            Theoretically, the blades may not converge at all until the guard

            All clear. Thank.

            There is a suggestion: take a slingshot in your hand, wooden. She will depict the sword as you described it. And try with this slingshot to catch a meter stick, which I will hit you with. I will even help you to catch, but I will dry your hand 100%. Not theoretically. Good luck.
          4. rich 7 March 2020 20: 21 New
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            Zulfikar is one of the famous swords of pre-Islamic Arabia, which belonged to the Prophet Muhammad Meccan Munabbih ibn Hajjaj before the Prophet. The Prophet Muhammad took him in the division of the trophies captured at the Battle of Badr. Later, the sword passed to the fourth righteous caliph (656-661) Ali ibn Abu Talib, and after his death to his sons Hassan and Hussein, and after the death of the latter to his son Ali ibn Hussein Zayn al-Abidin.
            The further history of the sword differs between the two main currents of Islam. Shiites who venerate the first four carriers of Zulfikar as their first spiritual leaders - imams - believe that the sword passed to their heirs and thus is now in the hands of the last, hidden imam - al-Mahdi. Sunnis believe that Zulfikar went to the Ottoman sultans and is now kept in Istanbul (Topkapi).
          5. rich 7 March 2020 20: 51 New
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            stored in Istanbul (Topkapi). Zulfikar is the oldest of all applicants for the title of Zulfikar. Moreover, modern researchers of this artifact point to a purely mechanical bifurcation of the blade of the blade, in the process of use, to prevent further damage to the entire blade, ancient gunsmiths were forced to drill a corresponding hole in place of a crack
            a photo sword of the prophet Zulfikar. Istanbul (Topkapi)

            .
  • Kote Pan Kokhanka 7 March 2020 12: 55 New
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    Hi Michael!
    The trouble is that one thick blade is always stronger than two thinner ones.
    Similar blades were created for transient horse-riding. At the oncoming battle of the enemy, they tried to truncate trite earlier than to parry his blow. I got the enemy - I won, I did not get it - you have already dispersed. Only heavy cavalry fought in dense boxes, their weapons were appropriate (expeditions, broadswords, swords). Catching an adversary’s blade between the blades on impact is fantastic.
    Regards, Vlad!
    1. Trilobite Master 7 March 2020 14: 47 New
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      Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Similar blades were created for transient horse-riding.

      When I talked about fencing treatises, I meant the so-called dueling fencing. However, situations also occurred in mass horse fighting, and I think it is not uncommon when the battle started at speed, but then horse lavas mutually knitted in each other, turned around, lost speed and everything turned not into a fleeting rapid battle, but tedious stamping in one place. In this case, it was possible to demonstrate the art of fencing.
      It is well known that the European swords were equipped with special devices for capturing the enemy’s blade, perhaps the second blade on the "zulfikar" could play some similar role. Nobody told us that these blades were the same length and were located symmetrically. smile
      If you imagine a guard from which two blades stick out, but one, so to speak, is “main”, and the second is “additional” ... I don’t know.
      I am almost sure that in reality, Ali did not have any "zulfikar" in the form in which it is currently being presented.
      1. abrakadabre 7 March 2020 16: 18 New
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        When I talked about fencing treatises, I meant the so-called dueling fencing.
        We are discussing an Asian blade (saber) Show me an Asian fencing treatise regarding dueling. And tell me about dueling practice in the East.
        I am almost sure that in reality, Ali did not have any "zulfikar" in the form in which it is currently being presented.
        Blade weapons of that period and region are fully described. Direct double-edged swords were used. Considering that the Meka and Meddina region in the 6-7 centuries has never been the "industrial" flagship of the region, all of the highest-quality blades were from either Byzantium, Iran or India.
      2. Trilobite Master 7 March 2020 16: 28 New
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        Quote: abrakadabre
        Show ... And tell

        laughing I won’t even think about it. smile
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        I am almost sure that in reality, Ali did not have any "zulfikar" in the form in which it is currently being presented.

        So you are trying to prove to me in an aggressive form that I did not argue with. If you noticed, I was just trying to find at least some rational explanation of the origin of the legend of the saber with two blades.
        And by the way, if we don’t know the oriental treatises on fencing, this does not mean at all that the art of fencing in the East was completely absent.
      3. abrakadabre 7 March 2020 17: 56 New
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        And by the way, if we don’t know the oriental treatises on fencing, this does not mean at all that the art of fencing in the East was completely absent.

        1. First you need to decide what to call fencing. If you take some definitions of the late Middle Ages and early Modern times: "Fencing is the art of striking without getting them," then you can bring anything under it, from boxing to beam or gunfire (even from a cannon).
        In Europe, fencing, as we are all used to understanding it, developed precisely as a civilian battle system. It was not used in the war and was openly condemned as harmful practice.
        2. The art of gun ownership certainly existed.

        Tell me, what skill was considered mandatory and most important for a knight in the Middle Ages?
  • abrakadabre 7 March 2020 16: 02 New
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    what could be the practical meaning of two blades on one hilt
    Practical meaning - show off. Given the complexity of manufacturing, the price of such a blade increases by an order of magnitude. Moreover, if you look closely at the photo, there are also patterns on the inner sides of both bands. Consequently, Pontus increases by an order of magnitude. That's all.
    that is, the vast majority of fencing scenes in cinema, where participants from all over dope beat iron on iron - complete nonsense.
    Not the majority, but almost everything. Including those where participants do not peel each other with all the dope. And they do everything gracefully. Screening realistic fights in movies is extremely rare.
    If it is necessary to parry precisely with the blade, the enemy’s blow was taken not on the blade, but on the side surface of the blade
    No. This is a myth and invention of modern reenactors of fencing with heavy bladed weapons of the period of the formation of this movement. With this parry, the risk of cutting the blade increases many times.
    the essence of the parry was to “brush off” the enemy’s blade from the trajectory of its movement.
    Exactly. The essence of parrying is knocking down a blade or controlling it by close contact. In addition, it is worth remembering that fencing is primarily a civil discipline, not a military one. In battle, all this is poorly applicable or applicable in very specific conditions.
    But with such a protection technique, a double blade may have some advantages over a conventional one.
    Can not. Each individual blade in a pair is twice thinner than the attacker's blade. Which means half as durable. And then, well, I caught ... And? .. Then what? It was in Europe in civilian fights that they used all kinds of eavesdrippers because they had dual weapons: a fist buckler - you can drag it in like a brass knuckle; dag, bullock and so on. And neutralizing one weapon (mine between read too), you can try to get the enemy second.
    In Asia, one who can afford such a blade is a rider. In battle, he has only one hit on the enemy - because he rides. Outside of what would have been said the combined arms battle, a person of this level will be accompanied by his retinue all the time. There are no traditions of duels in Europe either.
    1. Trilobite Master 7 March 2020 16: 18 New
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      I agree on something, on something not.
      First:
      Quote: abrakadabre
      This is a myth and invention of modern reenactors of fencing with heavy bladed weapons of the period of the formation of this movement.

      Not at all, this is a literal recommendation from some kind of fencing book. I don’t remember which one, but you can search. Parry according to this book was prescribed to be made precisely with the side of the blade, and not with the blade.
      Second.
      Quote: abrakadabre
      Each individual blade in a pair is twice thinner than the attacker's blade.

      Why? You can make it twice as thick, but this is not necessary. If you catch the tip of the enemy’s blade in the area of ​​your own guard, it’s quite possible to break off the tip of the blade, but it’s not difficult to paralyze the enemy’s actions, leaving yourself freedom to maneuver with the blade.
  • Catfish 7 March 2020 07: 53 New
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    Guys, I advise all of you to read the books of Emma Grigoryevna Astvatsaturyan, she was the largest specialist in the world in the Kubachin weapon. To her "bow" from all over the world went. I worked with her in the department for ten years and I have never seen her without a smile on my face, dear woman, and the specialist is simply amazing, I think the Kubachians themselves know less about their weapons than she does. I myself illustrated several monographs to her, mostly blades.
    Unfortunately, two years ago she was gone, but before my eyes she is still alive. Bright memory to a good woman and a good man. )))
  • Salty 7 March 2020 08: 07 New
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    Quote: Phil77
    Is this sword functional in itself?

    Try to use a fork instead of a boot awl, get an answer. A stabbing blow to this sword is definitely contraindicated.

    Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
    Upon impact, the blades diverge by 1-3 cm, which makes it difficult to parry the impact

    NOT difficult.
    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka 7 March 2020 10: 33 New
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      Quote: SaltY
      Quote: Phil77
      Is this sword functional in itself?

      Try to use a fork instead of a boot awl, get an answer. A stabbing blow to this sword is definitely contraindicated.

      In order!
      A similar status weapon is intended for the rider. Essentially a saber. Naturally, nobody will invest the function of a piercing weapon in a curved blade!
      Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Upon impact, the blades diverge by 1-3 cm, which makes it difficult to parry the impact

      NOT difficult.

      When parrying, the blades do not behave as standard. The saber unfolds perpendicular to the weapon of the enemy, which allows you to re-cut the brush or elbow joint.
      Well, the last one! The blades in the sheath are in a closed state, diverge by inertia during a chopping impact.
      In fact, more psychological weapons!
      1. Salty 7 March 2020 10: 52 New
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        Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Naturally, nobody will invest the function of a piercing weapon in a curved blade!

        You are in vain. It will be, as it will be.

        Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
        The saber unfolds perpendicular to the weapon of the enemy, which allows you to re-cut the brush or elbow joint

        I do not understand.

        Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
        In fact, more psychological weapons!

        Yes, Ponte.
        1. Kote Pan Kokhanka 7 March 2020 11: 27 New
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          Order, wave !!!
          Pooom draw conclusions.
          1. Salty 7 March 2020 11: 31 New
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            Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
            Poom will draw conclusions

            You see, sometimes pictures are enough for conclusions. As in this case, for example.

            Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
            Order, wave !!!

            I do not want. I know many more useful ways to spend time and money.

            Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
            Wake up

            And I'm not going to "wake up" anyone. tongue
  • knn54 7 March 2020 10: 08 New
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    Interestingly, does the age of the sword (the end of the 6th century or the beginning of the 7th century) correspond?
    Indeed, after a theft (and there are many such cases), a high-quality fake could return to the museum. There are enough masters in those parts.
  • WILL 7 March 2020 07: 07 New
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    Great Article! good Thanks to the author! hi
    Kubachinsky Zulfikar - I saw it personally! It cannot be assumed that the relics belonging to Russia went abroad according to criminal schemes, the protection was strengthened - Relics Take care!
  • Bar1 7 March 2020 08: 21 New
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    again for the old, so fakes and walk from article to article.
    To the east wind, there are NO miniatures in the Collection of Annals of Jalal adDin. This was established by Academician Patrushevsky, who composed the most complete edition of the Annals, as well as the historian Mirgaliev, who worked in the Istanbul Archives with manuscripts.

    See the discussion on the evidence link provided by Bar2.

    https://topwar.ru/164296-imperija-chingishana-i-horezm-poslednij-geroj.html#comment-id-9826124
    1. rich 7 March 2020 20: 33 New
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      Bar1 (Timur): In Jalal ad Din's Annals Collection there are NO thumbnails

      Timur is right. This is absolutely certain and repeatedly proven.
      misguided "experts" in this are often confused by the Jalal-ad-Din Collection of Chronicles and the Rashid-ad-Din Persian collection of chronicles, in which there are many miniatures. What with inimitable sarcasm and indicates Academician Patrushevsky
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        Quote: Rich
        Timur is right


        Rashid-ad Dina of course.
        in the Collection of Chronicles from the Academy of Sciences for 1952 there are no miniatures / prints.

        http://libarch.nmu.org.ua/handle/GenofondUA/52889
        Where did you get the picture, can you link?
        1. rich 7 March 2020 21: 32 New
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          Timur, hi
          directly to the vskidka - link: https: //ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashid_ad-Din
          There are a dozen miniatures for Jami at-tavarih.
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            Quote: Rich
            Timur, hi
            directly to the vskidka - link: https: //ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashid_ad-Din
            There are a dozen miniatures for Jami at-tavarih.


            I’m Pavel Ordynsky, Timur is a stamp for this image.
            The fact is that Rashid ad Din did not write Wikipedia, but wrote his annals. The most complete publication of annals is the 1952 edition of the Academy of Sciences. to which I refer, and there are NO pictures there. And in the Istanbul annals there are no pictures either, as Mirgaliyev claimed.
            As for Wikipedia, there is no way to find the ends, so you do not need to refer to this unreliable source.
            1. rich 7 March 2020 23: 32 New
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              And in the Istanbul annals there are no pictures either, as Mirgaliyev claimed.

              belay
              Well no, no, I won’t argue with you. You and Mirgaliev know better yes

              be healthy hi
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              it’s very nice to have such a reaction to the truth from liars. On this site, everything is turned upside down, and white has long been black.
  • Pessimist22 7 March 2020 06: 14 New
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    Oriental tales.
    1. Phil77 7 March 2020 06: 17 New
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      So be it. But how beautifully served! fellow
  • Errr 7 March 2020 07: 52 New
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    From the point of view of mechanics, the Kubachinsky Zulfikar does not withstand any criticism. Typical ritual freak. Neither chop them, nor prick.
    Thanks to the author for a portion of the hitherto incarnated mechanical nonsense. hi
    1. rich 8 March 2020 01: 21 New
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      From the point of view of mechanics, the Kubachinsky Zulfikar does not withstand any criticism. Typical ritual freak.

      The Kubachi blade is not a ritual or combat blade, it is primarily an example of the capabilities of the highest class of craftsmanship and art of the Kubachi gunsmiths
      1. Errr 8 March 2020 06: 05 New
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        The artistry of this product is undeniable. But planting two shanks in one handle is nothing ... lol
  • Salty 7 March 2020 07: 53 New
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    Thank you, the material is interesting. I cannot admire the sword, it seems to me absolutely non-functional, such as the Serpents of Gorynych - one head is good, and two are already uncomfortable:

    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka 7 March 2020 10: 35 New
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      Quote: SaltY
      Thank you, the material is interesting. I cannot admire the sword, it seems to me absolutely non-functional, such as the Serpents of Gorynych - one head is good, and two are already uncomfortable:



      Gorynych has three heads, not two!
      Most experts remove such weapons from India! The guys were still those entertainers with a multi-blade gun!
      1. Salty 7 March 2020 10: 50 New
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        Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
        The guys were still those entertainers with a multi-blade gun!

        Yes, for example, the annals mentioned a six-winged polynomial. Say, perversion? No, variety. laughing
  • Krasnodar 7 March 2020 09: 00 New
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    Therefore, the Iranian MBT is called Zulfikar ... thanks to the author, very interesting!
  • Van 16 7 March 2020 09: 48 New
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    Against the background of other articles and passions about the Constitution or Syria, such articles about history look like islands of calm in a stormy sea, you read and enjoy, you learn a lot of new and interesting things. Thanks!
    1. Phil77 7 March 2020 10: 53 New
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      And to everything else, and the people are selected benevolent, calm and .... with humor! hi
      1. Catfish 7 March 2020 12: 22 New
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        Especially on a tropical island with a tank under palm trees and among the sultry mulattos! laughing
        Where is our tank? Pody broke into the "operational" space about the women's holiday and the weekend? wink
        1. Phil77 7 March 2020 12: 25 New
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          I don’t know! And Seryoga is silent, like a fish on ice. Honestly, I don’t know! request
        2. Phil77 7 March 2020 12: 27 New
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          Oh !!! Here Anton appeared! From around the corner. laughing
        3. 3x3zsave 7 March 2020 13: 59 New
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          Your tank works like a Kazakhstan tractor on the virgin lands!
          1. Catfish 8 March 2020 01: 27 New
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            Once, one tractor also worked on the virgin soil of Kazakhstan. After that, according to media reports, one Chinese battalion that violated the USSR border went missing. Year, approximately, 1968th. laughing
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              My father served there, however, later in other troops.
  • Otshelnik 7 March 2020 10: 39 New
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    Our dear author, Zulfikar belonged to Imam Ali ....
    1. Undecim 7 March 2020 13: 54 New
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      Our dear author, Zulfikar belonged to Imam Ali ...
      At the same time, Muhammad was a passionate collector of weapons, in particular swords. During the traditional division of trophies, the prophet fell into the hands of a beautiful sword - Zulfikar, who once belonged to Quraishit Munabbiha. Due to the fact that Zulfikar fell into the hands of the prophet himself, human rumor quickly endowed him with miraculous properties and unprecedented impact power.
      I’ll try to clarify the issue.
      The author did not understand the nuances, which is not surprising, since even the monumental encyclopedic dictionary “Islam” by Piotrovsky says: “ZU-l-FAKAR (var. Zu-l-fikar;“ furrowed ”(?),“ With wavy stains ”( ?)) —The name of the sword of Muhammad. "
      Formally, he is right, the sword really originally belonged to Muhammad, but was called Dhu al-Fakar and did not possess any legendary properties.
      In the unsuccessful Muslim battle with the Quraysh under Uhud, a cousin, son-in-law and associate of the prophet Muhammad, the fourth righteous, the first of the twelve Shiites revered by imams Ali ibn Abu Talib broke his sword. Muhammad gave his Dhu al-Fakar to his cousin. True, according to legend, the sword Ali handed itself to the archangel Gabriel.
      In any case, his legendary qualities and his name - ZU-l-FAKAR - acquired the sword in the hands of Imam Ali.

      The battle of Imam Ali with Amr bin Abdul Wad al-Amri al-Kurashi. In the hands of Ali is the legendary Zulfikar.
      Perhaps those who know the Arabic language will correct me.
      1. rich 8 March 2020 01: 31 New
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        And now, pay attention to the hilt, hilt and crack on the blade stored in Istanbul (Topkapi). Marking Zulfikar, which the Sunites of the whole world consider the true "sword of the prophet." Don't they look alike?


        And how correctly you write:
        ZU-l-FAKAR (var. Zu-l-fikar; "furrowed" (?), "With wavy stains" (?)) - the name of the sword of Muhammad. "
  • Old26 7 March 2020 17: 27 New
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    Quote: ANIMAL
    Great Article! good Thanks to the author! hi
    Kubachinsky Zulfikar - I saw it personally! It cannot be assumed that the relics belonging to Russia went abroad according to criminal schemes, the protection was strengthened - Relics Take care!

    I am joining! Thanks to the author. Kubachinsky did not see, saw in Makhachkala in a museum, a year that way in 2016 EMNIP
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    Good detective.
    Thank you!
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    Very interesting article. Thanks to the author.