Turkish Defense Ministry: The operation will continue until the regime’s arms are broken

Turkish Defense Ministry: The operation will continue until the regime’s arms are broken

The Turkish Ministry of Defense has published data on the new losses of the Turkish military contingent in the Syrian province of Idlib. A summary of the Turkish main military department reports that two Turkish soldiers in Idlib died and six were injured. As stated, after some time, the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Turkey plans to provide details of under what circumstances these losses were suffered.


Representative of the military department of the country:

Our operation (in Syria) will continue until the regime’s bloody hands, which extend to our warriors and innocent civilians, are broken.

The Turkish Defense Ministry said that since the beginning of the operation, 3 planes, 8 helicopters and 3 CAA drones, 151 tanks, 47 cannons and howitzers, 8 air defense systems, 27 armored vehicles, 34 pickups with memory or machine guns, 60 army vehicles and 10 ammunition depots were destroyed .

Against this background, religious actions were held in many mosques in Turkey in support of the actions of the Turkish military contingent in a neighboring country. The media noted that "spiritual support is extremely important for soldiers who are fighting the regime."

In fact, this is another confirmation of the fact that the main task of Ankara in Syria is not at all the defeat of terrorist groups, but the conduct of a war against Syria itself, against the legitimate authorities, against the government army.

A rally in memory of the dead Turkish soldiers was also held at the Turkish National Police Academy.

From a Turkish media report:

The cadets went to the rally with flags and created a “live” map of Turkey in memory of the dead heroes.
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  1. The leader of the Redskins 4 March 2020 11: 16 New
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    Well, here is the ultimate goal designated ... What will our generals now answer?
    And the number of "destroyed" opponents and equipment causes a smile.
    1. figwam 4 March 2020 11: 21 New
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      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      What will our generals answer now?

      Ours has already said that the Turkish army has grown together with the terrorists. Tomorrow it will become clear to what we agreed with them. The Turkish transporter is already on his way to Moscow.
      1. maxim947 4 March 2020 11: 28 New
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        War always unites a nation, a country. Especially at its initial stage.
        Then it can play diametrically, the country can fall apart.
        But Syria is certainly not a rival for Turkey to have serious domestic political problems.
        Though....)
        1. hydrox 4 March 2020 12: 12 New
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          Here the sultan’s rival is not Syria, but Russia, but he doesn’t have a fellow traveler, but whole States, and everyone has their own ideas and plans: therefore, spontaneity and haste can do such things in this tangle (especially from States - they never knew how to behave and plan "how our word will respond") ...
        2. Vladimir_6 4 March 2020 13: 11 New
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          Quote: maxim947
          But Syria is certainly not a rival for Turkey to have serious domestic political problems.
          Though....)

          Although ... Syria has Russia behind its back. In Idlib, Russia does not observe what is happening from the side, but takes an active part. Erdogan will not withdraw his soldiers from Idlib voluntarily, he will withdraw under duress. Then he definitely "will have serious domestic political problems."
          Quote: maxim947
          War always unites a nation, a country.)

          Unfortunately, in Syria did not rally. Thanks to Iran and Hizbullah. Replaced in manpower those who went on the run.
    2. Leeds 4 March 2020 11: 23 New
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      The numbers in Damascus are less, but also depressing. No matter how much we liked it, it was very tangible for CAA. It is hard to imagine what would happen if the VKS did not put up a fire barrier after the loss of Serakib.
    3. maidan.izrailovich 4 March 2020 11: 23 New
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      What will our generals answer now?

      Why do you think that in this case the generals should answer?
      Perhaps at first our politicians should decide on Erdogan and Turkey as a whole.
      And then the generals will know what to do.
    4. Olgovich 4 March 2020 11: 24 New
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      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      And the number of "destroyed" opponents and equipment causes a smile.

      No words:
      3 aircraft, 8 helicopters and 3 CAA drones were destroyed, 151 tanks, 47 guns and howitzers, 8 air defense systems, 27 armored vehicles, 34 pickups with memory or machine guns, 60 army vehicles and 10 ammunition depots.

      Syria has no such forces there ...

      But what to do with the OTTISHED Ottomans is the question ....

      the main thing. to Russiaherself -not fought ....
      1. voyaka uh 4 March 2020 11: 46 New
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        "Syria has no such forces there .." ///
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        Now there is no. sad
        There are many videos of hitting tanks in the air and ATGMs, and they are very clear.
        1. Olgovich 4 March 2020 11: 54 New
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          Quote: voyaka uh
          Now there is no.

          How can you destroy what ... wasn’t there (151 tanks, etc.)? belay .
          Quote: voyaka uh
          There are many videos of hitting tanks in the air and ATGMs

          So dial
          151 tank, 47 guns and howitzers 2015. air defense systems, 27 armored vehicles, 34 pickups with memory
          Impressions
        2. neri73-r 4 March 2020 11: 57 New
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          Quote: voyaka uh
          There are many videos of hitting tanks in the air and ATGMs, and they are very clear.

          There are many videos, but they are not verified where and when they are made. They have already shown how the "shell" of the Syrian destroyed, it turned out MAN with Roland is not known where, rather in Libya.
          1. voyaka uh 4 March 2020 12: 02 New
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            There are at least videos, and there are many. And clearly visible lesions after hitting. In contrast to the rare videos of the Russian Defense Ministry, where an explosion is shown, but it is not clear: they hit the target or the bomb fell in front of the target or nearby.
            1. neri73-r 4 March 2020 12: 06 New
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              Quote: voyaka uh
              There are at least videos, and there are many. And clearly visible lesions after hitting. In contrast to the rare videos of the Russian Defense Ministry, where an explosion is shown, but it is not clear: they hit the target or the bomb fell in front of the target or nearby.

              I'm talking about verification, there are a lot of videos in nete, only how does this relate to Idlib today.
              1. voyaka uh 4 March 2020 12: 09 New
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                Turkey for the first time demonstrated the massive work of shock drones only in Idlib. In Libya, there was a little bit. And the Libyan video was quickly distinguished from the Syrian. Prior to this, only the States and Israel showed similar videos.
                The big picture: highway number 5 looks like the "death road" in Iraq in 1991.
                Along the entire length along Idlib - burnt equipment. So, even if the Turkish Defense Ministry is exaggerating, then a little.
                1. neri73-r 4 March 2020 12: 15 New
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                  Quote: voyaka uh
                  The big picture: highway number 5 looks like the "death road" in Iraq in 1991.

                  Yeah and like the Eye of Sauron !!! laughing
                  Quote: voyaka uh
                  So, even if the Turkish Defense Ministry is exaggerating, then a little.

                  A bit like Israel and the USA, where propaganda and lies are of the “God” level. wassat

                  Quote: voyaka uh
                  Turkey for the first time demonstrated the massive work of shock drones only in Idlib.

                  And where do you see all this "massive", 10-15 drones for the whole Idlib, 7-8 of which were shot down ???
                  1. voyaka uh 4 March 2020 12: 19 New
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                    "A bit like Israel and the United States, where propaganda and lies of the level of" God "////
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                    Not a single expert has ever caught a video of Israeli Defense Ministry in fakes. And in the video of the Turkish Ministry of Defense, I also do not see fakes. But if you have reached a similar level of discussion ..? It was nice to chat hi
                    1. neri73-r 4 March 2020 12: 24 New
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                      Quote: voyaka uh
                      "A bit like Israel and the United States, where propaganda and lies of the level of" God "////
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                      Not a single expert has ever caught a video of Israeli Defense Ministry in fakes. And in the video of the Turkish Ministry of Defense, I also do not see fakes. But if you have reached a similar level of discussion ..? It was nice to chat hi

                      But what about the massive use of UAVs ??? Already leaving? What about massiveness, everyone is shouting about a new level, unheard of effectiveness .......... public scam! Happily, and you do not get sick. love
                    2. Mishiko 4 March 2020 12: 42 New
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                      Quote: voyaka uh
                      Not a single expert has ever caught a video of Israeli Defense Ministry in fakes.

                      voyaka uh (Alexey)! It's ugly to lie on! The second defeat of the Shell - pure water fake, the Shell anti-aircraft missile does not have such maneuverability, and when missed, it flies on a rope near the Shell. Are you probably blind?
                    3. kventinasd 4 March 2020 18: 38 New
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                      Quote: voyaka uh
                      Not a single expert has ever caught an Israeli Defense Ministry video in fakes

                      You have taken a lie from the cradle.
                2. ABM
                  ABM 4 March 2020 12: 52 New
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                  Comrade Erdogan should be awarded, in fact, the Order of Merit to the Fatherland - he easily and unconstrained the long-developed NATO system for countering Russian tanks in Europe, thereby saving at least a thousand of the lives of our tankers! for the first time in history, only the theoretical development of NATO was applied against the Syrians, consisting in the massive use of drones for laser illumination of 155 mm self-propelled guns.

                  The experiments began in the early 70s of the last century. The reason for the development of guided missiles was the increasing presence of Soviet tank forces in Europe. The peculiarities of the theater of operations made available howitzer artillery an ineffective means against Soviet armored tanks. A high-precision artillery system would make it possible to overcome this shortcoming and revive artillery, while simultaneously increasing the probability of hitting an enemy armored unit from the first shot.

                  The developed high-precision ammunition was intended to destroy point targets, tanks and armored vehicles, various stationary objects, bunkers and fortifications. Five types of ammunition entered the selection round of the competition, all five to one degree or another implemented various guidance technologies at the terminal portion of the flight path (terminal homing techniques), combining target illumination with a target indicator and a semi-active homing head, which focuses on the signal from the illuminated target.

                  in general, without delving into the technical details of the project, about which there is enough information on the network, it is safe to say that the tests in Syria were successful, although they did not bring the expected result. The main thing is that now this will not become a novelty for our army overloaded with armored vehicles. Coming out of the cap of the country's air defense systems, in accordance with the offensive doctrine, our mobile armored units would have suffered significant losses incomparable with the Syrian ones.

                  thank you friend!
                  1. flicker 4 March 2020 13: 59 New
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                    thank you friend!
                    bully Wow, Erdogan on the Idlib front revealed to us NATO maps, well done, Recep. yes
                    Z.Y. Soon, the Palestinians and Hezbollah will take over the experience, not to mention Syria.
                3. Sarmat Sanych 4 March 2020 15: 50 New
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                  The warrior, the Turkish Defense Ministry, like everyone else, and the warriors, were crap one’s liquid. Syrians and Libyans in 3 days clicked a total of 14 of their "sophisticated" drones, given that Erdogashka has about 200 - in 2 weeks there will be nolaughing
        3. hydrox 4 March 2020 12: 21 New
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          This is only because there are a lot of drones among the Turks (with Turks in the forefront!): The Syrians, of course, do not know this art, therefore they suffer losses (until they learn (no one taught them how to use UAVs against barmels, but after the last Arms supplies of the Turks and the States can be helped only by the aerospace forces, and the sultan must be given the hitch first, otherwise his negotiating position is too strong ...
        4. tomket 4 March 2020 12: 26 New
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          Quote: voyaka uh
          There are many videos of hitting tanks in the air and ATGMs, and they are very clear.

          Have you uploaded 151 videos already?))))
        5. Vladimir_6 4 March 2020 12: 46 New
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          Quote: voyaka uh
          "Syria has no such forces there .." ///
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          Now there is no. sad

          Syrian forces on the way. Do not forget, in Syria, Russia defends its geopolitical interests. Turkey will not hurt to finish the job.
          British Masons are pushing Erdogan to war with Russia not so that Turkey will win. And just so that Turkey broke up. In Moscow, Putin will outline the sultan’s prospects for his state if he doesn’t draw the right conclusions. There will be no bargaining between Erdogan and Putin.
          Downed planes, burned-out tanks, etc. will not cancel the decisions made by Russia.
          Although I admit, the loss of CAA is depressing.
        6. Nyrobsky 4 March 2020 14: 48 New
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          Quote: voyaka uh
          There are many videos of hitting tanks in the air and ATGMs, and they are very clear.
          It contains a video of the hodgepodge including those operations that Ankara conducted against the Kurds in Iraq and northern Syria, and therefore it is difficult to say how many real attacks of the last days by the SAA forces there, although they are undoubtedly present. But for the Turkish citizen, this propaganda is good. hi
      2. Victorio 5 March 2020 09: 11 New
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        Quote: Olgovich
        No words:
        3 planes, 8 helicopters and 3 drones of SAA, 151 tanks, 47 guns and howitzers, 8 air defense systems, 27 armored vehicles, 34 pickups with memory or machine guns, 60 army vehicles and 10 ammunition depots were destroyed.

        Syria has no such forces there ...

        =====
        while Syria, according to the press, for the year 19 remained 10-15 percent of the pre-war number of tanks, then the brave Turks destroyed at least half of the remaining ones. but maybe there was a recharge from russia commercials for a hundred units
    5. Svarog 4 March 2020 11: 25 New
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      Well, here is the ultimate goal designated ...


      With Erdogan’s goal, everything is clear .. And what is our ultimate goal? This is not a banter .. I’m really interested, can anyone enlighten .. The terrorists have already been defeated several times .. Now the clearly expressed task of the Turks is to push them into their borders .. The Turks have the opposite goal .. Will we fight with the Erodogash? or persuade using tomatoes and "high-tech gingerbread" ..
      1. Thrall 4 March 2020 11: 27 New
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        Quote: Svarog
        what is our ultimate goal?

        Syria - Peace and Stability
        Erdoganu - from a dead donkey ears
        smile
        1. Ingvar 72 4 March 2020 11: 36 New
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          Quote: Thrall
          Syria - Peace and Stability

          With so many stakeholders (Israel, Turkey, Iran, USA) the task is almost impossible. UN spit on the illegal presence of foreign troops on the territory of an independent state. So peace and stability are now nothing more than Wishlist, moreover expensive and without serious hopes for success. hi
          1. Sarmat Sanych 4 March 2020 11: 44 New
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            Ingvar 72, Wishlist - this is just with Matrasia, Zrail and Turkey, and Assad, with our support, has already freed 80% of Syria and, in particular, took half an Idlib in a month. So they will rub off and give everything else. So far, everyone is whining around the hill - Russia, like a boa constrictor, silently does its job and it will push to the complete liberation of Syria from terrorists and occupiers.
            1. MAGRIB 4 March 2020 12: 53 New
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              It turns out 10 million refugees who left the country are terrorists and occupiers? Maybe the problem is in Assad, it never occurred to me?
              1. Vladimir_6 4 March 2020 13: 34 New
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                Quote: MAGRIB
                It turns out 10 million refugees who left the country are terrorists and occupiers? Maybe the problem is in Assad, it never occurred to me?

                Refugees left the country from those who staged "Hollywood movies" with a head cut off on camera.
                Whose interests were advocated by the "heroes" of these films are known to all. Directors also write scripts not in Syria.
              2. Sarmat Sanych 4 March 2020 14: 53 New
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                MAGRIB, and why not 20 million? Write already all leftlaughing. Guys, end up with fantasies, several thousand refugees return to Syria every day, and 80% of the country controlled by the legitimate Government is populated in the same way as before the invasion invasion. Where there is legitimate elected Syrian power - there is peace, restoration and creation, where American and Turkish occupiers - there is anarchy, murder, destruction and lawlessness. This applies not only to Syria, but also to Yemen, Iraq, the Outskirts, Libya, etc.
              3. SSR
                SSR 4 March 2020 15: 17 New
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                Quote: MAGRIB
                It turns out 10 million refugees who left the country are terrorists and occupiers? Maybe the problem is in Assad, it never occurred to me?

                Please tell me, but there are only Syrian refugees and or maybe from Libya there too? When Gaddafi, they lived poorly? Maybe the problem is not in Gaddafi? Not in Assad? Maybe S. Hussein is to blame for everything, and the guilt of the Anglo-Saxons who cut the lands of the B. East as they wanted, is completely gone? One Assad, the world gopnik is to blame.
              4. Grits 4 March 2020 16: 21 New
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                Quote: MAGRIB
                It turns out 10 million refugees who left the country are terrorists and occupiers?

                When everything is destroyed in your city, there will be no economy and social infrastructure, and you and your family can be killed at any time, then you will also run for the nearest border. And it will not matter to you what status they stick to
      2. bessmertniy 4 March 2020 11: 33 New
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        Erdogan dug a hole for himself. And he only has to make a choice - who will bury him. Do not bother him to make this right choice. lol
      3. carstorm 11 4 March 2020 11: 37 New
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        not terrorists but ISIS. its dangerous structure no longer exists. but other groups still hollow and hollow.
      4. Pavel73 4 March 2020 11: 41 New
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        Or divide Idlib? Who lives there: Turks, Arabs, Kurds? How do they live - mixed up or are there different settlements with a pronounced ethnic composition? What do they want: live in Turkey, live in Syria, or create your own state? Is the opinion of local residents at least someone taken into account?
        1. voyaka uh 4 March 2020 12: 05 New
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          Different nationalities live there, and different groups from different "pacified" regions of Syria resettled there.
          They have only one thing in common: they do not want Assad.
          1. tomket 4 March 2020 12: 28 New
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            Quote: voyaka uh
            They have only one thing in common: they do not want Assad.

            As Angelina Jolie said in the movie "Agents Mr. and Mrs. Smith" to a replica of Brad Pete:
            - Honey ... I don't like Assad ....
            - Nothing, you get used to it ...
            1. voyaka uh 4 March 2020 12: 38 New
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              For more than 70 years, the Communists have forced themselves to "get used to it." And everyone already, sort of like, "didn’t want, but got used to" smile
              And suddenly "y-p-s" stop
              1. cat Rusich 4 March 2020 19: 45 New
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                And who are the communists? F. Dzerzhinsky is a Pole; in Poland they do not like communists. I.V. Dzhugashvili is Georgian, in Georgia they do not like communists. Latvian arrows - by name from Latvia, in Latvia they do not like communists. Ya. Sverdlov - a Jew, but a Jew Yakov-Aaron Moiseevich Sverdlov, in Israel with communism, how? As we have in Russia, Mother, please, but as in our "small" homeland, so "with hostility." You Alexey probably know about the role of the USSR in the "birth" of Israel - otherwise, now they would live in Madagascar. Those who ruined the USSR did not have anything to do with communism, except for the "red books" received in an "unrighteous" way for a career. Leiba Davidovich Bronstein -? - L. Trotsky, in history lessons in Israel, they talk about the role of Jews in the October Revolution in the Russian Empire? "Sultan" wants to crush Syria - Israel wants to get a New Ottoman Empire as a neighbor?
              2. tomket 5 March 2020 12: 19 New
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                Quote: voyaka uh
                For more than 70 years, the Communists have forced themselves to "get used to it." And everyone already, sort of like, "didn’t want, but got used to"

                That there are Communists, they can’t get used to the Jews for the second millennium, although it would seem ...
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          2. Vasya Zyuzkin 4 March 2020 13: 36 New
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            They do not want to be Syrians because the Turks pay better. And the Palestinians do not want to be the territory of Srail, and who is asking them? Here, the restoration of the integrity of the country by the fragmented USA and Srail and the barmels created by them, and in Palestine, the brazen seizure of the territory with the destruction of the indigenous population. Double standards in action.
          3. Vladimir_6 4 March 2020 13: 43 New
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            Quote: voyaka uh
            Different nationalities live there, and different groups from different "pacified" regions of Syria resettled there.
            They have only one thing in common: they do not want Assad.

            They have little choice. Either lay down your arms (which was suggested to them before sending them in green buses), or fight to the last drop of blood, or collect manat and go in search of a better share.
          4. Incvizitor 4 March 2020 14: 27 New
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            If they don’t want Assad, let them go where he isn’t there, the people have made their choice and that a bunch of scumbags do not like what to plunder and kill is their problem.
          5. Grits 4 March 2020 16: 29 New
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            Quote: voyaka uh
            They have only one thing in common: they do not want Assad.

            Did the Turks tell them about this? For many years of the war, residents have simply forgotten what a quiet peaceful life is. And you can pour anything into their ears. Moreover, during this time Turks and bandits ruled there. During this time they have already planted their ideology.
            We have nearby brothers live next door. So their “jolly” began a little later than in Syria. So during this time they were reformatted with such propaganda that they, being Russian, do not want Russians. And they want lace panties in the EU.
          6. carstorm 11 4 March 2020 16: 46 New
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            you all there already personally asked what they want and what not?))))
      5. Arlen 4 March 2020 11: 46 New
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        Quote: Svarog
        And what is our ultimate goal?

        We have a simple goal.
        The presence of Russia and political influence on the countries of the Middle East region and the eastern Mediterranean. Russia is trying to regain influence in those regions in which the USSR's positions were once very strong.
        Also, do not forget about the raw material interest in the gas and oil sectors. The entire turmoil in Syria was created by the United States with the aim of controlling gas supplies from Qatar through Syrian territory to Europe, thereby tearing Europe off from Russian gas supplies. Thus, we can also assume that Russia defends its economic interests.
      6. akropin 4 March 2020 13: 24 New
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        There are several goals. Home - grandmother oligarchs who sit on oil. The second plan is the running-in of weapons and the stimulation of the production of defense industry enterprises. And politics and everything else is an inevitable passing foam.
      7. Vladimir_6 4 March 2020 13: 25 New
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        Quote: Svarog
        With Erdogan’s goal, everything is clear .. And what is our ultimate goal? This is not a banter .. I'm really interested, can anyone enlighten ..

        Putin: “Syria should be freed from the illegal foreign military presence. In our opinion, lasting and lasting stabilization in Syria as a whole can only be achieved if the sovereignty and territorial integrity of this country is respected. This is a principled position, and we have spoken about this in detail with President of Turkey.
        It’s important that Turkish partners share this approach. "
        Erdogan: “Today, with the distinguished President, we have mainly touched upon all the events related to the operation“ Source of Peace. ”I have informed Dear Putin on a large-scale basis. The main task of this operation is to eliminate the terrorist organization PKK YPG and ensure the return of Syrian refugees.
        The preservation of Syrian territorial integrity and political integrity is in our direction what we are doing. "We will not look at other people's territories, we very carefully plan all our steps in this direction."
        Goals stated. The only thing left is to realize it. hi
      8. flicker 4 March 2020 14: 56 New
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        Will we fight with Erodogash? or persuade
        Erdogan is controlled by amers through his agent Fidan, who is also the head of Turkish intelligence. Read more about Fidan here: https://news2.ru/story/511452/
        In fact, the death of the Turkish military (which so excited the Turkish public) as well as its UNBREAKABLE, heartbreaking coverage in all kinds of media - all this is the work of Fidan. By the way, the rebellion of 2017, to overthrow Erdogan, is also suspected of him. And many Erdogan throwings are connected with the instructions of Fidan. Fidan is the American watchman for Erdogan.
        Our chance is to try again to open Erdogan’s eyes to Fidan. For the war of Turkey and Russia is the end for Turkey. Maybe it will reach Erdogan. So we have a chance, really small.
        Z.Y. Many in Turkey want to be friends with us and they don’t like the idlib adventure.
        1. SSR
          SSR 4 March 2020 15: 33 New
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          Quote: flicker
          heartbreaking coverage in all kinds of media - all this is the work of Fidan. By the way, the rebellion of 2017, to overthrow Erdogan, is also suspected of him.

          Wow, Fidan is a very, very ambiguous figure, but there is one more who, sitting at the General Staff, “profiled” the conspiracy and was taken hostage.
          Hulusi Akar. He was the 29th chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Turkey. Previously, he also served as commander of the Turkish Ground Forces [2].

          During a coup attempt on July 15, 2016, he was taken hostage by the rebels.

          They say now the military, he is one of the first violins.
          1. flicker 4 March 2020 16: 30 New
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            who, sitting in the General Staff, "profiled" the conspiracy and was taken "hostage".
            This one too, but rather it was simply inactive (there was an excuse), while Erdogan could not reach Fidan for several hours (and this was at the time of the crisis!). Turkish Prime Minister Yıldırım also had questions for Fidan.
            So our Recep lead under the hand as a blind.
            The geldings, apparently, decided to let the Russians finish Erdogan, and the geldings of the geldings of the Merino will mourn him.
            Only the Turks, along with the Azerbaijani brothers, will not understand how they were sentenced as sacrificial sheep.
          2. flicker 4 March 2020 18: 49 New
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            who, sitting in the General Staff, "profiled" the conspiracy and was taken "hostage".
            Actually, yes, infantry and aviation were also involved there, and without this "hostage" it was difficult to use different types of troops. All right.
    6. Sayan 4 March 2020 11: 42 New
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      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Well, here is the ultimate goal designated ... What will our generals now answer?
      And the number of "destroyed" opponents and equipment causes a smile.

      Well, these goals were originally known - the overthrow of Assad, the seizure of deposits, etc. Remember the caravans of fuel trucks with oil in the direction of Turkey that ours were fucking, the Turks then also had a similar tantrum, by the way, the son of Erdogashka was selling oil
    7. Leshy1975 4 March 2020 11: 47 New
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      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Well, here is the ultimate goal designated ... What will our generals now answer?
      And the number of "destroyed" opponents and equipment causes a smile.

      Yes, what can they answer if the "fifth column" looks up everywhere. I just don’t know what to do.
      PS In assessing the modern Russian army, I think that Kvachkov is still exaggerating, of course, there is not everything as joyful as the propaganda assures. But I think it’s better than Kvachkov thinks. And the fact that Kvachkova now, following me will also be recorded in the "fifth column", he is to blame, it was necessary to keep his mouth shut. Well, or would push the bravura slogans, would pass for a patriot. In general, my grandfather ran into trouble.
      PPS Here I am still the ex-commander of the Black Sea Fleet (1998-2002), Admiral Vladimir Komoyedov very upset. He also enrolled in the “all-ringleaders and enemies of the country” (source agitpro.su): Erdogan is quite capable of giving orders to block the straits for the ships of the Russian Navy, and technically it is not difficult - the Bosphorus Strait from the coast of Istanbul is in full view.
      What would happen in that case? The short answer is for Russia, this does not bode well. And even more so for the Syrian government. Russia does not have enough “margin of safety” to continue supporting Bashar al-Assad in Syria..
      If this "Syrian Express" is interrupted, then Russian bases in Syria will instantly find themselves on a "starvation ration". And if Bashar al-Assad can supply fuel and food, then big problems can arise with ammunition and replaceable personnel. Two or three weeks of such a blockade, and that’s all - Russia can curtail all military activities in Syria and evacuate via Gibraltar to their homeland. It is easy to imagine what political problems are for Russia and especially for the Syrian government will arise in a similar case.
      1. Romario_Argo 4 March 2020 12: 04 New
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        answers of the general who tried to overthrow the constitutional order in Russia
        in the USSR he would be shot (!)
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          Quote: Romario_Argo
          answers of the general who tried to overthrow the constitutional order in Russia
          in the USSR he would be shot (!)

          In the USSR, they would definitely shoot today's mega-strategy (you know who), along with the team. So be careful with the mention of the USSR wherever you go. hi
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      2. Sailor 4 March 2020 12: 28 New
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        And Kvachkov and Komoyedov say what they see and know about our aircraft, think for yourself what the conscript will master in a year?
      3. Evgeny Ivanov_5 4 March 2020 12: 35 New
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        I completely agree. If you drop the cheers - patriotism and look at the situation with a sober look, then it is. The problem is not what we can crave, but the consequences for the country. Including economic. Our economy has an insufficient margin of safety and defense plants simply can not cope with the tasks of releasing the right amount of products. And if the Turks close the sky and the strait, then our bases in Syria will indeed be in blockade. What then? Are you really ready for a full-scale war in Syria? As Clausewitz wrote, a war can be won if there is an exact task and its achievement. And what are our ultimate goals in Syria?
        1. Grits 4 March 2020 16: 37 New
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          Are you really ready for a full-scale war in Syria?

          And how do you imagine the full-scale war of Turkey and Russia, but only in Syria? That is, do you absolutely not consider the participation of forces in another theater of operations? An interesting statement of the question is that I undertake to fight only with my left hand, and you can with both hands, two legs and a brass knuckles ... It's ridiculous.
      4. Oleg Zorin_2 4 March 2020 12: 36 New
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        Funny ... The admiral of the fleet, the retired Komoyedov, expressed concerns, and the minuses put to you ... smile By the way, the second part of the interview disappeared somewhere. About what will happen if you "crave" on the territory of Turkey.
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          Quote: Oleg Zorin_2
          Funny ... The admiral of the fleet, the retired Komoyedov, expressed concerns, and the minuses put to you ... smile By the way, the second part of the interview disappeared somewhere. About what will happen if you "crave" on the territory of Turkey.

          I don’t know where it disappeared and most importantly, why is it a minus to me? But they are fighting the “fifth” column mercilessly. Burn out with red-hot minuses. These guys are so easy to stop now. The whole circus will begin when they nevertheless realize that they have made a mistake with the list of enemies. Here, the feathers from the pillows will really fly. laughing
          In the meantime, everything in science is developing. A bit of psychology. 5 stages of making the inevitable:
          Stage 1 - Denial (a person refuses to accept what happened to him);
          Stage 2 - Anger (at this stage aggression manifests itself to the entire surrounding world);
          Stage 3 - Bargaining (there are thoughts about agreeing on a better fate);
          Stage 4 - Depression (at this stage, a person may be depressed around the clock);
          Stage 5 - Acceptance (acceptance of the inevitable fate).

          PS Only many still do not know about it. What fiery (quite seriously) fighters with power in the near future they will become. Well, nothing, there will be a surprise. hi
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            These five points will come in handy for the Turks.
            Those who serve today say that the Russian army of 2008 and the present are two different armies. Today, we can very quickly reduce the military potential of Turkey to a minimum (they do not have their own aircraft, tanks, air defense, etc.). So today, Turkey is not a rival to us. Another thing, we do not want to fight with anyone, but if someone decides to attack us, we will end, and quickly.
            Once again: finish off quickly.
            This is how we will deliver goods to Syria.
            Z.Y. Straits can be closed only in case of war between Turkey and Russia. And in this case, another question is whose straits will be. bully
      5. hydrox 4 March 2020 12: 59 New
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        For several times over the course of 10 years, the Iran-Iraq-Syria railway option + Anzali-Makhachkala sea ferry has been exaggerated.
        The entire railway of 1500 km could be a branch of the Great Chinese Way and it would be much cheaper to build it than BAM, you just need to do these things ONLINE, and not when the fried rooster is already working hard on breeches ...
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          The entire railway of 1500 km, could be a branch of the Great Chinese Way and build it would be much cheaper than BAM, only you need to do such things TIME

          Maybe that’s why the West started all this disaster in Syria (as well as the whole Arab spring)
          1. hydrox 4 March 2020 17: 22 New
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            And this is precisely how I regard the actions of the United States as an element of global opposition to the formation in Syria of a large transshipment hub of latitudinal meridian character serving all of Europe, all of Russia with Kazakhstan, northern Africa and all of Asia, and this is almost half of the total turnover of the world.
      6. ABM
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        Do you know what the mistake is? For centuries, Russia has been consistently approaching the straits, with each war getting closer and closer. The Montreux Convention regulated the status of straits. Therefore, Erdogan’s actions to arbitrarily close the straits will lead to the restoration of Russia's desire to possess these straits. This is a serious enough threat to Turkey, whatever their nationalists would shout. It is DANGEROUS to receive such a threat from a nuclear power possessing the world's first arsenal of nuclear weapons.
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          Quote: ABM
          Do you know what the mistake is? For centuries, Russia has been consistently approaching the straits, with each war getting closer and closer. The Montreux Convention regulated the status of straits. Therefore, Erdogan’s actions to arbitrarily close the straits will lead to the restoration of Russia's desire to possess these straits. This is a serious enough threat to Turkey, whatever their nationalists would shout. It is DANGEROUS to receive such a threat from a nuclear power possessing the world's first arsenal of nuclear weapons.

          So what, are you going to destroy everyone with vigorous heads at once? Well, seriously, please. hi No one in the world will leave this unanswered. And at least for a tactical nuclear strike, we will get the same strike with the same tactical nuclear weapon. And I’m not even saying that in this case we will simply be strangled economically and not only the USA and the EU will be united in this. And then, in case of escalation, the whole World is in ruins.
          Nuclear weapons, this is a deterrent weapon when a country dies and there is no other chance. And that is not the fact that it will be used. During WWII, not a single country, even Hitler Germany, at the edge of death, or the USSR near Moscow, used WMD, although there seemed to be nothing to lose (and I remind you where the relatives of today's “elite” of the Russian Federation live). And for this reason, they are trying to make nuclear weapons at least minimally applicable - everyone is trying to reduce the power of tactical nuclear charges. Therefore, consider your plan of war with Turkey WITHOUT using nuclear weapons. hi
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            no, I’m not even talking about a conventional war! I am talking about plans and their absence. There are none at the moment.
          2. Sarmat Sanych 4 March 2020 15: 57 New
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            where do the relatives of today's "elite" of the Russian Federation live
            I always listen to these highs, and more specifically, who lives where? Only not the stories of Lechaim Anal, sucked from the 21st finger, but real data. Guys, stop suffocating nonsense, if anyone really has the determination to press the button at hour X, then this is only Russia. Neither the mattress-pampered warriors nor the more so the geyropeyts have the spirit to do with it with a 99% probability.
          3. Sarmat Sanych 4 March 2020 16: 02 New
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            The army of Russia at the moment is the most combat-ready and professional on the planet, even it makes no sense to compare either with the Chinese or with the mattress-beds, or even less with all the others. But we remember what kind of decline in the Soviet Army began already in the 2nd half of Afghanistan (with huge losses in manpower and equipment), and we should not even talk about the degradation of the Army in the 90s.
            In the 90s, officers worked like white emigres in the 30s - taxi drivers, movers, sellers, and soldiers often went hungry at all, hazing and banditry reigned even in the most elite units, ensigns dragged everything that was lying badly, the army resembled a cross between a prison and a madhouse. Although, in truth, gop-stop, the district in the civilian region and hazing in the army were in the 80s of the Union (now 10 years this has not happened in Russia). Recall at least how in the 90s sailors who lived in bestial conditions on that very Russky Island, which became a dumping ground for rusty junk from which they made candy, built modern bridges, ports, infrastructure and where major international forums are held.
      7. Sergey49 4 March 2020 15: 33 New
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        The general cheered me up. At first it was told how bad Putin was, that Serdyukov had dispersed a very strong Soviet army, and then he began to tell how this very Soviet army had scraped soldiers for the tiny Chechnya.
        We must not forget that it was the reformed Russian army that took the Crimea and the Donbass, while the unreformed Soviet-style Ukrainian army scattered through the bushes.
    8. tihonmarine 4 March 2020 11: 54 New
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      Well, here is the ultimate goal designated ... What will our generals now answer?

      The whole world is silent.
    9. neri73-r 4 March 2020 11: 55 New
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      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      And the number of "destroyed" opponents and equipment causes a smile.

      The Turkish Defense Ministry said that since the beginning of the operation, 3 planes, 8 helicopters and 3 CAA drones, 151 tanks, 47 cannons and howitzers, 8 air defense systems, 27 armored vehicles, 34 pickups with memory or machine guns, 60 army vehicles and 10 ammunition depots were destroyed .

      Write more, what their basurman to regret! (with)
    10. protoss 4 March 2020 11: 58 New
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      crews of destroyed equipment are not up to smiles
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        crews of 151 tanks?
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          here at least 151, at least 51.
          1. Nastia makarova 4 March 2020 12: 43 New
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            8 years war is already underway
    11. antivirus 4 March 2020 12: 15 New
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      it is necessary to send specialists from the ATO of the outskirts there - to see how they will be squeezed They will go to the Dnieper, following the example of Idlib-USA and NATO are silent
      so the Turks will lose Kurdistan (according to ethnicity).
      self-confidence among the Turks turns into self-confidence and arrogance
  2. Victor_B 4 March 2020 11: 17 New
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    Another Northern Cyprus kneading!
    But the "regime" and Putin and Iran do not give.
    It's a shame!
    Once again, hell knows how many barmaley will explode into Turkey.
    Did they give up on hell?
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      Putin and Iran do not give.

      Russia with Iran? Or Putin with Rouhani? wink
  3. Killemall 4 March 2020 11: 19 New
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    no matter how they themselves get offended ... the Turks will still freeze themselves hemorrhoids
    1. maidan.izrailovich 4 March 2020 11: 25 New
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      no matter how they break themselves ...

      While Erdogan travels to Sochi, nothing will happen.
      1. Killemall 4 March 2020 11: 31 New
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        Well, I think that the Ministry of Defense is not in vain about the merging of the Turks with barmaley information gives ... I think that if the Turks after the fifth do not dump from the idlib they will begin to tumble indiscriminately
        1. Grits 4 March 2020 16: 46 New
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          I think that if the Turks after the fifth do not roll out of the idlib, they will begin to tumble indiscriminately

          I think they will find compromise options. Somehow Idlib will be divided. But the fact that all Idlib will be Syrian is far from a fact.
          1. Killemall 4 March 2020 17: 13 New
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            I think everyone perfectly understands that the Turks set a goal to squeeze out this territory and put under control the main communications in this area ... to sit there and steer ... but everyone understands that this will lead to the collapse of Syria. not immediately, but gradually. it is a springboard for all this evil spirits. Assad, and we and the Iranians, I think there is no alternative but to clean these Turkobarmaley to the border. but no one wants a major war ... I think everything with our brains is ok. must come up with something.
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            This sultan is worried about the uprooting of Turkoman, whom he would like to see as his tributaries and janissaries, and the crowds of vagrant bandits - Kurds who are ready to obey anyone who will give them autonomy, but who do not understand why they need it, because they are used to running errands and they will not appreciate autonomy as their statehood.
            The whole question is only in what piece of Idlib it will be decided to reward the Sultan so that he removes the claws.
  4. ioan-e 4 March 2020 11: 20 New
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    The Turkish Defense Ministry said that since the beginning of the operation, 3 planes, 8 helicopters and 3 CAA drones, 151 tanks, 47 cannons and howitzers, 8 air defense systems, 27 armored vehicles, 34 pickups with memory or machine guns, 60 army vehicles and 10 ammunition depots were destroyed .

    I wonder how much these figures need to be divided in order to get real losses?
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      they are not, of course, as the Turks say ... but, unfortunately, also not small
  5. aszzz888 4 March 2020 11: 21 New
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    Turkish Defense Ministry: The operation will continue until the regime’s arms are broken
    We will see what ENTI warriors will declare after March 5th. Hegemons)) laughing Mlyn.
  6. Graz 4 March 2020 11: 21 New
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    it’s necessary to destroy all the Turkish military on the territory of Syria, and there’s nothing to be ashamed of;
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      it is necessary to destroy all the Turkish military in Syria

      The Turks will close the straits, with all the ensuing consequences.
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        The Turks will close the straits, with all the ensuing consequences.

        So it is necessary to destroy the Syrians, the Syrian technology. And we will only give target designation. But who knows about this, right?
    2. fuel oil 4 March 2020 12: 00 New
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      Pinocchio can still be processed. Let them be divided into moderate and not quite opposition.
  7. Darkesstcat 4 March 2020 11: 22 New
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    151 tanks Do Syrians have so much?
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      151 tanks Do Syrians have so much?

      Why feel sorry for them?
      Write more!
      1. bessmertniy 4 March 2020 11: 39 New
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        The more numbers, the sweeter the glory. repeat But the impression is that the Turks underestimate their losses.
    2. maidan.izrailovich 4 March 2020 11: 30 New
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      151 tanks Do Syrians have so much?

      Before the war alone there were more than 72 T-1500s.
      How much is left? HZ.
  8. rotmistr60 4 March 2020 11: 24 New
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    Three tape recorders, three movie cameras abroad, three domestic cigarette cases, a jacket ... suede ... two jackets ...
    There are certainly losses on the Syrian side, no one argues, but not to the same extent. Lying is also necessary in the framework of decency.
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      East - it’s such a thing: if you don’t lie, you won’t become famous.
  9. Fedor Sokolov 4 March 2020 11: 26 New
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    Erdogan’s main enemy is Assad, who didn’t want to introduce “Muslim brothers”, who enjoy the strong support of Turkey, into the Syrian parliament.
    1. g1washntwn 4 March 2020 14: 34 New
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      So now he is defending his Turkoman who are de facto doing the same thing as ISIS - creating their own independent state on the territory of the SAR. Just seeing how his entire creeping annexation was being broken, he rushed into open military intervention. Someone believes that the Turks will leave from there? Ha. There are already flags ready that they, by analogy with Northern Cyprus, are ready to stick into Syrian land. Then they can only be picked up from there by a big war.
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        Then they can only be picked up from there by a big war.

        This, incidentally, applies to Afrin and parts of Rojava.
  10. Tarasios 4 March 2020 11: 26 New
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    There is a direct interference in the internal affairs of a sovereign country, an attempt to forcibly change the legitimate government, etc. And where is the much-praised NATO democracy, the rule of law and other freedoms? ;)
    Hypocrisy and arrogance as they are.
  11. Sarmat Sanych 4 March 2020 11: 30 New
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    Non-resilient among the Turks collective bombaleyl, already a glow over the Black Sealaughing. Let them whimper and compose the Syrian casualties on the topic of “three suede jackets,” and meanwhile, Al-Assad has already squeezed out half of Idlib, and will squeeze out the rest.
    The Turkish adventure failed, not really starting. The countless threats that have sounded from the lips of the Turkish leadership after the death of about a hundred Turkish military over the past month, were expected to be an empty phrase. Neither a declaration of war on Syria, nor the introduction of martial law in Turkey followed; the severance of relations with Russia also did not happen. Despite the numerous radical statements caused by the next round of confrontation, Russia still remains a partner of Turkey, Russian ships sail unhindered through the Bosphorus to Tartus, and the planes of the Russian military transport aircraft hover serenely in the airspace over Turkey, delivering military supplies to Khmeimim.
    But politically, our Turkish partners have significant successes, crossing out all the failures of February. The Turkish president was able to reach Vladimir Putin and even received an invitation to visit Moscow: the meeting of the presidents should be held on March 5-6.
    However, it cannot be said that luck on the battlefield smiled on our Turkish partners. “The descendants of the great conquerors”, as Turkish askers indicate in the Turkish media, managed to place the operational headquarters at the forefront in the battle formations of terrorists - and successfully lose it together with all the personnel from a direct hit by the FAB-500, which suddenly crashed from an unidentified aircraft.
    The data on Turkish losses in this episode vary: the officially declared by the Turks the number of killed - 33 people, the unofficial - more than 100. The number of injured can be 2-3 times more than the killed. In addition, since we are talking about headquarters, senior officers could not help but suffer.
    Given the numerous victims of previous artillery and air strikes on Turkish units, it can be estimated that the support of the terrorists at the moment cost Turkey at least two hundred killed and several hundred wounded askers. Thus, the total loss may well reach as many as five hundred people. In addition, Turks and pro-Turkish terrorists in Idlib lost more than a hundred pieces of armored vehicles.
    Regarding the losses in the manpower of terrorists, it must be taken into account that air strikes have been intensively applied to them for a month now and almost all of the available SAA artillery has been “operating”. The frontal attacks of the terrorists, which are actually being driven into a fire bag under the heavy fire of the Syrian army in the Serakib region, have also led to enormous losses of manpower over the past few days under the sensitive Turkish leadership. The total losses of terrorists for February go to the thousands, and they, terrorists, with such a successful leadership can soon end.
    The only Turkish success was the operation, limited in scale, but with the oriental romantic name “Shield of Spring”. Local attacks on the Syrian units were carried out on February 28-29 using a small number of UAVs and were widely covered in the Turkish media. The Minister of Defense of the Republic of Turkey, General Hulusi Akar, came to coordinate the work of several aircraft. Perhaps that is why these actions have become relatively successful.
    The success of the Turks was short-lived. On March 1, the Syrian air defense system partially launched (S-300PMU-2 air defense systems have not yet been used) - and Turkish UAVs “fell in”: 6 aircraft 4 Bayraktar TB2 and 2 latest TAI Anka-S attack aircraft were shot down in one day, the Turkish Air Force left Only 6 such devices.
    In addition to drones, these days the Turks used F-16 fighters, which shot down two Syrian Su-24s. This was followed by an interesting statement by the head of the Russian center for reconciliation of the warring parties: "Russian troops cannot guarantee the safety of Turkish aviation flights over Syria." This statement is a signal to the Turks about the possible strengthening of Syrian air defense in the area of ​​the Idlib de-escalation zone, and that Turkish manned aircraft have now become a legitimate target, since the Syrian air defense systems were not used on them before.
    Thus, despite the big words, no decisive steps were taken by the Turkish leadership. The warring parties - Turkey and Syria - essentially stand still and exchange more or less equivalent attacks, Erdogan exchanges Turkish soldiers for Syrian soldiers every day in Idlib.
    In this regard, time plays into Assad’s hands: over the long years of the war, the Syrians are accustomed to casualties, now the war is of a national liberation character and the Syrian troops are all the more to die for. The Turks have the opposite situation: any large one-time losses lead to hysteria in Turkish society and leadership, with which the latest inadequate statements are connected. Turkey has no real political goals in Syria, the Turkish people are not morally ready to pay endlessly with blood of their askers for mirages of Ottoman greatness.
    It is important to note that Turkey still does not consider the Russian Federation to be a party to the conflict, both countries remain de facto partners. Rather, it acts as an intermediary between countries and the only force capable of resolving the current situation. That is why Erdogan goes to Moscow.
    In fact, we are talking about a direct conflict between the two countries - partners of Russia, one of which the Russian Federation helps militarily. The role of mediator is not new for Russia. Almost all conflicts in the post-Soviet space developed according to a similar scenario; Russia still carries out intermediary functions in Transnistria, Karabakh and Donbass.
    What is new in this situation is that it is not the head of the post-Soviet state that is going to Moscow to solve his military-political problems, but the president of a Middle Eastern country - a NATO member with the second-largest army in the Alliance and an 83 million-strong population.
    In the post-Soviet space, the role of senior comrade went to Russia in a natural way as the most powerful state formation in the region and Europe. Now Russia, relying on Syria, has a similar position in the Middle East region.
    Thus, everything that happens is a painful process of Turkey entering the zone of Russian influence and building closer Russian-Turkish relations as a partner (Turkey) and a senior partner (Russia) in post-Soviet patterns.
  12. maks007 4 March 2020 11: 31 New
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    The Turkish Defense Ministry said that since the beginning of the operation, 3 planes, 8 helicopters and 3 CAA drones, 151 tanks, 47 cannons and howitzers, 8 air defense systems, 27 armored vehicles, 34 pickups with memory or machine guns, 60 army vehicles and 10 ammunition depots were destroyed .

    I wonder how much these figures need to be divided in order to get real losses?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O7VV6IOQwI
    Evgeny Poddubny: hostilities are in favor of the Syrian government - Russia 24 from 03.03.20
  13. Livonetc 4 March 2020 11: 33 New
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    The Turks and sub-Turks have not completed their task.
    They did not restrain or repulse what was released by the SAA during the last company.
    The Turks did not have any blitzkrieg in principle.
    At the moment, the development of events is also not in favor of the Turks and sub-Turks.
    The trump cards of the Sultan in the negotiations will be weak.
    Tymchuk-style swollen cheeks and booths about thousands of SSA employees killed, speaks of an attempt to justify their failure and save face
  14. anjey 4 March 2020 11: 40 New
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    People, as consumables and all the laws of civilization, do not work in the geopolitical squabble of politicians and, above all, oligators of all stripes, the law of power, the so-called "law of the jungle," begins to act sinfully on Earth, and each one has its own Truth and a dozen lies against opponents.
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      People, as consumables and all the laws of civilization, do not work in the geopolitical squabble of politicians and, above all, oligators of all stripes, the law of power, the so-called "law of the jungle," begins to act sinfully on Earth, and each one has its own Truth and a dozen lies against opponents.

      Everything was always like that.
  15. knn54 4 March 2020 11: 43 New
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    Given the economic situation of Turkey, it will not pull long-term hostilities.
    By the way, the Turks should (according to Sochi) use UAVs only for reconnaissance.
    The use of IMPACT drones, which led to losses, is a violation of the agreements.
    The Syrians will tighten their air defense systems (even the S-200) and the alignment will change. It’s a pity that there are no Torahs.
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      It is a pity that there are no "Thors"

      "Thor" is a hefty expensive thing to exchange for a reconnaissance drone and one high-precision shell. Yes, and this is a difficult thing for the Syrians. There is no time to study it.
  16. Jack O'Neill 4 March 2020 11: 46 New
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    Those. if Volodya doesn’t agree, will Syria be eaten?
    Syria militarily flea, against the background of the Turkish Armed Forces, there is nothing to say. Without Russia, a khan.
    The question is what is Volodya Erdagan ready to give, so that he remains in his positions, and does not advance deep into Syria, simultaneously cutting out the SAR ...
    Actually, if you look, we have no leverage on Turkey. We will not bomb Turkey, as NATO. If you can still bomb in the territory of the SAR, then in Turkey in any way.
    Moreover, if Turkey is in danger, the strait will be easily closed. And if they close it, at the base in Syria there will even be a can of stew worth its weight in gold.
    The day after tomorrow we will find out whether Volodya could agree or not. If Turkey continues to rape Syria, then it’s not agreed.
    Well, certainly no one will start World War III from behind Syria. At least I hope so.
    Although, people cut themselves and from behind a bucket, so ...
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    I think Turkey will not be able to cope only with the forces of Turkoman and militants.
    Will have to attract regular ground forces: infantry and tanks.
    1. Nastia makarova 4 March 2020 12: 19 New
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      that's it, the militants end and they will not fight with their infantry
      1. voyaka uh 4 March 2020 12: 23 New
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        There are many militants left, but they do not fight to death, this is not ISIS: when they can attack, then they are piled on - they retreat.
        And they are waiting for Turkey to start fighting in full force.
        1. Nastia makarova 4 March 2020 12: 38 New
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          much left ??? they are also grind with might and main, part in Libya, the line is not for joining their ranks
    2. g1washntwn 4 March 2020 14: 40 New
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      Quote: voyaka uh
      Will have to attract regular ground forces

      They are already already there like mud, you can’t figure out where the former thugs and where the Turkish regulars. ATGM and MANPADS are unlikely to be issued in green (although this is not excluded). So both of them shoot, therefore the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation also hints that "sorting out the grades" will soon become a leisure. The birch has been pulled out under the root and will begin to drive "into the river" indiscriminately.
    3. Grits 4 March 2020 17: 01 New
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      Quote: voyaka uh
      Will have to attract regular ground forces: infantry and tanks

      What the Turks really did not want. And for some reason drones begin to end quickly.
  18. Goldmitro 4 March 2020 11: 51 New
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    Representative of the Ministry of Defense of Turkey
    Our operation (in Syria) will continue until the regime’s bloody hands, which extend to our warriors and innocent civilians, are broken.

    In fact, this is another confirmation of the fact that the main task of Ankara in Syria is not at all the defeat of terrorist groups, but the conduct of a war against Syria itself, against the legitimate authorities, against the government army.

    Everything is now very clear! It's time to end all sorts of polites with the possessed Erdogan and convene the UN Security Council about the open aggression of Turkey against a sovereign state, a UN member - Syria!
    1. cniza 4 March 2020 12: 31 New
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      So it’s like that, only it seems that the USA will support Turkey and there will be no children's confrontation ...
    2. protoss 4 March 2020 12: 35 New
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      in the UN Security Council, we will be in the minority.
      besides veto.
  19. miha77 4 March 2020 11: 56 New
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    with the start of the operation of turkey, no one is sure of anything
  20. Igluxnumx 4 March 2020 12: 00 New
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    Judging by the reports of the Turkish Defense Ministry, Syria was already left without tanks. Or the Turks triple eyes?
  21. Tarasios 4 March 2020 12: 04 New
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    And yes, we are waiting for the next move of Iran. The other day they issued an ultimatum to Turkey ...
  22. Gardamir 4 March 2020 12: 05 New
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    Interestingly, the back does not hurt from stuck scimitar?
    1. Nastia makarova 4 March 2020 12: 19 New
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      who stuck? while Turkey loses the battle and suffers heavy losses
  23. JonnyT 4 March 2020 12: 06 New
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    ..... and at the end of the speech he shouted, glory to Ukraine.
    How similar is the rhetoric!
    151 floor straight cosmic figures
  24. cniza 4 March 2020 12: 29 New
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    Turkish Defense Ministry: The operation will continue until the regime’s arms are broken


    It looks like your regime will break your head there ...
  25. rotkiv04 4 March 2020 12: 34 New
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    The main thing is that you do not break the hell
  26. Ravil_Asnafovich 4 March 2020 12: 35 New
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    Well, the "patriots" who love Erdogashka, answer !!!
  27. 7,62h54 4 March 2020 12: 37 New
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    This is what the failure of the coup d'etat turns into. The monster Erdo, who survived in 2016, still revels in his invincibility.
  28. Gennady Fomkin 4 March 2020 12: 46 New
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    .Lumberberg published a high-profile article with laudatory comments on the results of the attack by Turkish drones. But if you figure it out for yourself, it turns out that causing similar damage to cruise missiles happened: Turkey lost three attack drone 2 Anka-S and 1 Anks-B Anka-S is an analogue of the American RQ-9 Reaper, although it is difficult to call an analogue that 90 % of the same American components as RQ-9, this is, in fact, the same UAV only in a different wrapper, and as it often happens due to additional intermediaries during assembly, the price was much more expensive .: MQ-9: 17 million $ Anka-S: $ 22 million Anka-B: $ 30 million The most valuable thing they could destroy was the shell-S, the export price of which was $ 14 million, the rest were a few old tanks and infantry fighting vehicles, a couple of MLRS and howitzers, all in the amount pulls a maximum of $ 25 million. And this is not even considering that Turkey lost about 6 reconnaissance UAVs at a cost of about 5 million each. By the way, nothing is known more about the contracts for the supply of Anka-S and Anka-B, most likely 20 pieces are all that Turkey has, and she 3 days lost 15%. links: https: //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TAI_Anka#ANKA-S. In the Battle of Jutland, the Germans drowned twice as much tonnage as they lost. This is a tactical victory. However, no operational goals were achieved. The same can be said about the British, but they did not directly set such goals (the general squadron battle came as a surprise to them). However, before the battle, the power ratio was 7 to 4 in favor of the British. After the battle (taking into account the temporarily retired damaged ships), the ratio became 4 to 2. (Figures are approximate). That is, England has strengthened relative to the enemy, even having suffered more losses. Moreover, the Germans no longer undertook operations of this magnitude. The strategic victory of England. But that is not all. England failed to defeat the enemy utterly, thereby showing the whole world that it is no longer the unconditional mistress of the seas. This is a civilizational defeat. And the victory of the pretenders to domination - the USA, Japan, who did not even participate in that battle.

    This is how effectiveness should be evaluated.
    1. Stalllker 4 March 2020 12: 56 New
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      Shhh, it's not customary to count other people's money bully
  29. Gennady Fomkin 4 March 2020 12: 47 New
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    And if you take into account that some of the airplanes native son-in-law masters, so the business of general current begins laughing
  30. Viktor Sergeev 4 March 2020 12: 50 New
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    Did they resurrect Goebels?
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      Quote: Victor Sergeev
      Did they resurrect Goebels?

      They studied him well.
  31. Stalllker 4 March 2020 12: 54 New
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    They can’t cope with the Kurds for so many years, but here ....
    1. g1washntwn 4 March 2020 14: 43 New
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      Turkey in Syria needs its Golan. That is the whole reason. A bad example is contagious.
  32. Konatantin 1992 4 March 2020 12: 59 New
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    What agreements are actually between the Russian Federation and the Ottoman Empire, oh Turkey, we may find out with you a hundred years later .... and maybe never. CAA losses are inflated by Turkey, of course .... especially fear about tanks is direct))) But if the Russian Federation doesn’t change the situation in Idlib somehow (give MANPADs at least armor to cover assault groups), then the losses can be and more. Your opinion gentlemen VOvtsy? ...
  33. flicker 4 March 2020 13: 07 New
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    Turkish Ministry of Defense: The operation will continue until ...
    Turkey?
    Turkey has two choices:
    1) They continue to fight in Idlib - they lose both Idlib and Turkey
    2) They leave Idlib - they lose Idlib, but they keep Turkey.
    Question: What choice should a rational leader of Turkey make?
  34. Yaro Polk 4 March 2020 13: 22 New
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    This is how a couple of tens of thousands of coffins will leave for Turkey, mothers will go out with posters for the murdered sons in honor of Erdik’s ambitions, Erdik will sing differently .....
    1. g1washntwn 4 March 2020 14: 47 New
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      Quote: Yaro Polk
      Erdik will sing differently .....

      He will sing in a voice that these are evil Russians to blame. The Turkish media so far timidly hum this, there was no go-ahead. Propaganda so far has stamped their unconditional victory.
  35. Shahno 4 March 2020 13: 24 New
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    But not bad, Turkey made amends for the states. There is reason to talk about F 35 ... now. Although, let's look at this cunning one.
    PS. Of course, not me personally. There are others who make decisions. But the assessment does not change from that.
  36. Aliken 4 March 2020 13: 27 New
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    Take care of your hands.
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    The Russian Federation has one good answer --- a massive supply of weapons to the Kurds ....
  38. flicker 4 March 2020 13: 42 New
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    Erdogan is a wedding general in Turkey; in fact, Turkey is driven by Hakan Fidan, a CIA agent and part-time head of Turkish intelligence.
    Hakan Fidan.
    "... From 1986 to 2001 he served as a non-commissioned officer in the Turkish army. spent part of the service abroad in the intelligence and operational management of the NATO rapid response corps, stationed in Germany. During this period, he studied at the graduate school of the University of Maryland (University of Maryland University College) at the Department of Politics and Management.
    More details here: https://news2.ru/story/511452/
  39. NEOZ 4 March 2020 13: 42 New
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    The cadets went to the rally with flags and created a “live” map of Turkey in memory of the dead heroes.

    somewhere I already saw it ....
  40. Ros 56 4 March 2020 13: 44 New
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    So they whose hands they meant, really not theirs. Well then of course.
  41. yuliatreb 4 March 2020 14: 14 New
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    How many prophecies were there that the third world will begin precisely from those places where the conflict does not subside, but rather grows spontaneously, maybe humanity should really think, until it’s really too late, but on the other hand, with our world order and antagonistic relations between our people civilization is not sorry, history does not teach us anything. We are not the first on this planet, not we are the last.
  42. Kapral Alphych 4 March 2020 15: 08 New
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    When trying to break off your hands, do not break the teeth of the Turks.
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  44. Shahno 4 March 2020 15: 52 New
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    Quote: Sarmat Sanych
    The warrior, the Turkish Defense Ministry, like everyone else, and the warriors, were crap one’s liquid. Syrians and Libyans in 3 days clicked a total of 14 of their "sophisticated" drones, given that Erdogashka has about 200 - in 2 weeks there will be nolaughing

    I don’t know ... Who has strategic advantage?
    Guys, well, grow already.
  45. Mentat 4 March 2020 16: 45 New
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    Quote: voyaka uh
    "Syria has no such forces there .." ///
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    Now there is no. sad
    There are many videos of hitting tanks in the air and ATGMs, and they are very clear.

    Have you watched all 150 tank destruction videos?) What nonsense are you talking about?
  46. fa2998 4 March 2020 17: 16 New
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    Quote: figvam

    Ours already said that the Turkish army merged with the terrorists

    We urgently need to quietly help the Kurds. Turkish. I think in a month the Turkish warriors will go home, put things in order at home.
    RS, It’s like no one at the “top” had such a simple thought. My enemy’s enemy is my friend. We secretly delivered nuclear missiles in half the world, I think there will be no “help to the Kurds” problems. hi
  47. NF68 4 March 2020 18: 12 New
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    That way you can sit on your own.
  48. flicker 5 March 2020 00: 50 New
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    And here’s about a very strong Turkish army: “Despite the fact that the war between Turkey and Syria lasts only two weeks, and Erdogan’s army in Syria could not achieve any significant successes, it became known that Turkey completely unexpectedly missiles that would allow attacking SAA positions from a safe distance ended. Against this background, the Turkish president formally appealed to the US for ammunition support, which led to ridicule, and Turkey was dubbed the most useless NATO country, completely unprepared for a military conflict. "
    Yeah, however
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      Quote: flicker
      And here’s about a very strong Turkish army: “Despite the fact that the war between Turkey and Syria lasts only two weeks, and Erdogan’s army in Syria could not achieve any significant successes, it became known that Turkey completely unexpectedly missiles that would allow attacking SAA positions from a safe distance ended. Against this background, the Turkish president formally appealed to the US for ammunition support, which led to ridicule, and Turkey was dubbed the most useless NATO country, completely unprepared for a military conflict. "
      Yeah, however

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      probably it is, the trump cards of their Erdogan / the Turkish army has already laid out.
  49. medoed777 5 March 2020 07: 09 New
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    As if Erdogan did not break his own. Absolutely collapsed from the oak.
  50. Voltsky 5 March 2020 22: 11 New
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    The operation will continue until the regime’s arms are broken.
    - The Turkish Foreign Ministry threatens Erdogan, and promises to break his arms with the help of the Turkish Defense Ministry ?!