“Asymmetric” Cuban Delfin submarine clearly captured for the first time

The Cuban revolutionary fleet is located only 140 km from the shores of its main enemy, the United States, which has the most powerful naval forces in the world. In this regard, Havana was forced to rely on asymmetric actions in waging war at sea. Among them was the creation of a “dwarf" underwater fleet.

It is known that it is equipped with submarines such as Delfin. However, due to their special secrecy, it still has not been possible to acquire their adequate image. However, a recent photograph taken in Havana clearly captured this product. According to the American military expert Kh.I. Sutton, from Forbes, is “the first high-resolution image of a Delfin class submarine.” According to him, intelligence analysts “wait for years” for such materials. After working on the picture, Sutton presented the alleged layout of the Cuban submarine.

There is little reliable information about this class of submarines. It is assumed that they have a length of about 21 m, a displacement of 100 tons, their armament consists of two torpedo launchers, capable of launching up to six 533 mm shells. The diesel submarine is considered large enough for a crew of five - one person more than the standard main battle tank. It is assumed that the fleet from Delfin is located in Kabanas in the north-west of the country, about 50 km from its capital.

Submarine class Delfin

Comments

[Sergey M. Karasev]

Cubans know how to keep their military secrets. And they do not consider it necessary to brag about their steepness in terms of armaments. For this they respect.

[bessmertniy]

There can be big troubles from a small boat. This requires the possibility of an asymmetric response so that the big enemy does not hope for impunity.

[smart ass]

But nothing to brag about

[Far B]

"Asymmetric submarine" already sounds mysterious and scary. Well nafig with such a connection

[aszzz888]

I wonder what is the depth of immersion? I suppose within 50-100 m.

[Shuttle]

Quote: aszzz888

I wonder what is the depth of immersion? I suppose within 50-100 m.

A small boat is easier to make durable than a large one.
It's like nuts. A large nut and a small one if the walls have the same thickness have different strengths.
On the other hand, a small boat has significantly less autonomy.

[dvina71]

Quote: Shuttle

Big nut and small

Are there compartments and power bulkheads in the nut? Show me a small submarine with a diving depth of 600m .. Not a bathyscaphe, but a submarine ... I’ll clarify., With weapons and the possibility of its use.

[Shuttle]

Quote: dvina71

Quote: Shuttle

Big nut and small

Are there compartments and power bulkheads in the nut? Show me a small submarine with a diving depth of 600m .. Not a bathyscaphe, but a submarine ... I’ll clarify., With weapons and the possibility of its use.

That is why bathyscaphes are made small. Otherwise, the insides of large underwater vehicles would have consisted slightly less than entirely of "power bulkheads".

[dvina71]

Quote: Shuttle

That's why bathyscaphes are made small

Do you intentionally confuse the bathyscaphe (walnut) and pl .. cigarette with bulkheads?

a scarlet boat is easier to make durable than a large one.

This is yours .. not?
So why can’t small squares go down to 600m and work there?

[Shuttle]

Quote: dvina71

So why can’t small squares go down to 600m and work there?

They can. And they are called - bathyscaphes

[dvina71]

Quote: Shuttle

They can. And they are called - bathyscaphes

You argue for the sake of argument .. There are bathyscaphes, there are small submarines .. structurally they are different and a small sub can never reach a large square in terms of immersion depth ..

[Shuttle]

Quote: dvina71

Quote: Shuttle

They can. And they are called - bathyscaphes

You argue for the sake of argument .. There are bathyscaphes, there are small submarines .. structurally they are different

What is the fundamental difference? Is there a periscope, TA, or something else?

Quote: dvina71

and a small square will never be able to approach a large square in the depth of immersion.

Small submarines are used for attacks in bays, bays, and ports. Those. where the big one doesn't just fit. That is why small submarines have shallow diving depths. This is the reason. A small submarine does not need a large diving depth. Would be needed - would have done. That is why the bathyscaphes are small and never huge, like, for example, the submarines of Project 941 Shark.
Speaking of project 941. One of the reasons for the special multihull design of this class of boats is precisely the problem of strength. Of course, of course, in addition, such a design perfectly solves the problems of survivability of submarines. But they could have made a solid body in the form of one large cigar - they would have done it. It would be easier both in terms of communications and other systems. But no - they made two hefty parallel cases, not one. And not at all because there was nowhere to put the missile silos. On the American "Ohio", Soviet 667BDRM, there was somehow a place. Shark is the largest submarine in this star system, by the way. While.

[dvina71]

Quote: Shuttle

Speaking of project 941

The only reason for the double-hull design of these subplanes is the inability to place solid-fuel rockets in a single-hull ... and that's it. No need to think up anything.

[Shuttle]

Quote: dvina71

Quote: Shuttle

Speaking of project 941

The only reason for the double-hull design of these subplanes is the inability to place solid-fuel rockets in a single-hull ... and that's it. No need to think up anything.

Moreover, this "only" reason was mentioned by me, but you did not deign to notice it. I will repeat it as a question now.
Why is the two-hull (or rather five-hull) design on the Shark, but not on Borea? After all, both of them carry solid rockets.
Ohio also carries solid rockets. However, her design is traditional. And the rest, too. And only in the largest Sharks in size it is different. What is it for?

[Linxs]

Isn't that what cocaine was transported to in the USA?
Video somewhere in the vast YouTube was.

[Catfish]

In Cuba, they do not produce cocaine and do not rent their ships to cartels.

[Linxs]

For sub rent: D

[Catfish]

The dimensions are not the same, so Juarez is probably homemade.

[Freeman]

There is little reliable information about this class of submarines. It is assumed that they have a length of about 21 m, a displacement of 100 tons, their armament consists of two torpedo launchers capable of launching up to six 533 mm shells. The diesel submarine is considered large enough for a crew of five - one person more than in a standard main battle tank. It is assumed that the fleet from Delfin located in Kabanas in the north-west of the country, about 50 km from its capital.

Forbes reports the following -

Dolphin is Cuba's only submarine.
Even during the Cold War, the Cuban fleet had three strike submarines supplied by the Soviet Union. But, like most of their large ships, they have long since retired.
... judging by its size, compared to submarines elsewhere, it is likely to be able to carry two heavy torpedoes.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/hisutton/2020/03/01/new-photo-reveals-cuban-navys-secret-submarine/#d2f406e60554

This is the second photo in 15 years. Here is the first shot in Havana.

The author of an article in Forbes, High Sutton, on his page on the network gives more such information

Very little is known about the boat, but we can deduce some basic facts. It is a ~ 20 m (65 ft) dry submarine with a crew of at least five people. She has one diesel engine, which apparently does not have a snorkel mast; instead, a rough, inverted u-shaped exhaust is visible at the rear of the sail. We do not know if he is armed, but he is large enough to suggest that double 533-mm torpedoes can be carried outside.

http://www.hisutton.com/Delfin.html

[Aviator_]

a u-shaped exhaust is visible at the rear of the sail.

Especially touching about the sail. And when will oak google translations begin to edit?

[Glory1974]

Especially touching about the sail. And when will oak google translations begin to edit?

Generation "Next" doesn't know the submarine has no sail
They are also convinced that the exhaust in the sail is a secret new technology.

[Freeman]

Glory1974 (Glory) Today, 09: 41
Generation "Next" don't know

If this is about me, then after reading about the "theory of generations", I don't even know which one to attribute myself to.
On the one hand, I am the last of the "baby boomers" - on the other, the first of the "generation X".

- So "calculate" my year of birth.

[dzvero]

How is "no"? German submariners went sailing in the Atlantic during WWII ... Let the case be an isolated one, but there is a possibility, and it was laid down constructively
And so, for the defense of the coast and the actions in the near zone, such babies are just that. Due to size, detection seems to be a serious problem. Even for US PLO.

[Freeman]

Quote: Aviator_

a u-shaped exhaust is visible at the rear of the sail.

Especially touching about the sail. And when will oak google translations begin to edit?

I repent, overlooked.
Well at least I guessed that the "snort mast" (snort mast) is a snorkel.
But, as it turned out (according to the wiki) - in the British navy, the snorkel is really called "snort".

[Klingon]

Quote: Sergey Karasev

Cubans know how to keep their military secrets. And they do not consider it necessary to brag about their steepness in terms of armaments. For this they respect.

that's it. this is something real and not just the cartoony Laser Kernels, Rocket Kernels and Kraken, which no one has ever seen and does not even know about oh approximate performance characteristics

[Sarmat Sanych]

Klingon, the bot just woke up? Hypersonic and laser weapons in Russia have been on alert for a long time, your masters know very well, and the bot still suffers from the syndrome of the blissful gopher "nivery!". Bots, you are in the first stage - Denial. Next comes Anger, followed by Depression, then Bargaining and finally Acceptance, you have a lot of events ahead of you.

[Kerensky]

armament consists of two torpedo launchersable to run up to six 533 mm shells. The diesel submarine is considered quite large. for a crew of five

I like! There is something in this ... A sort of epicity, comparable to an attempt to transfer torpedoes from stern to bow TAs ...
Well, okay, I'm not talking about that now. Who created the fishing fleet for the Cubans ?! Yeah!
They (here 40 lines of mat) lived on the island and did not see fish ?! My welded person personally welded (in his words) to their scows tricky fastenings ....

[Winnie76]

Quote: Kerensky

They (here 40 lines of mat) lived on the island and did not see fish ?! My welded person personally welded (in his words) to their scows tricky fastenings ....

My god, how ornate. In your comment, you want to say that their boats are our Piranhas?

[Freeman]

Vinnie76 (Alexander) Today, 09:13
want to say that their boats are our piranhas?

"Piranhas" on performance characteristics do not fit - the size and depth of immersion is much greater. Yes, and they were built, it seems, only 2 pieces.

the "Americans" believe that our SPLC Project 1015

SPLC Project 1015 in the Military History Museum of Baku

[Kerensky]

In your comment, you want to say that their boats are our Piranhas?

I want to say that they were not the ones who fought the boat. Most likely our job. A sort of "neglected" garage ...

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Kerensky

I want to say that they did not make a boat.

Al-dr. Fedorovich! Well, why so?
If we had mastered a hidden vessel for them, we would surely have cut out a 950 project ... By the way, today it’s not too late for them at a reasonable price to put a team of 6 Amurov units - 950. In exchange for rare earth, for example ... Or renting a naval base for 49 years is an option.

The Amur 950 submarine has a displacement of 1060 tons. A feature of the submarine is the presence of 10 universal vertical launchers of the RK “Club-S”, which makes it possible to launch salvo firing of the 10th KR at sea and ground targets for no more than 2 minutes. On the submarine there are small-sized hydroacoustic counteraction devices located in the control room in the superstructure.
ASBU with the latest RES allows you to solve all the tactical tasks facing the NPL. Due to the relatively small displacement, Amur 950 will have an advantage over submarines of a similar class by the criterion of efficiency-cost.
The level of the H / A field of the Amur 950 submarine is several times lower than that of the Kilo class submarines, which are considered to be very quiet. "Amur 950" has a new generation RES, using the achievements of the world radio electronics of recent years.
It is possible to equip this VNEU submarine with ECG, which can significantly increase underwater autonomy and D of navigation. VNEU with stocks of reagents is located in the special. module compartment, which can be built into the submarine’s hull both during construction and during its repair or modernization.
Amur 950 can be used in all areas of the oceans, except for areas with continuous ice cover, under any weather conditions, in shallow and deep water areas.

This is the boat that the sailors of Liberty Island should have!
IMHO.

[Kerensky]

By the way, today it’s not too late for them at a reasonable price to put a team of 6 Amurov units - 950. In exchange for rare earth, for example ... Either rent a naval base for 49 years

I definitely agree! It’s not too late to start training them. People are more important than iron.

[Svarog51]

Alexander Do they not pass littoral projects to them? They also need NK, "friends" are near. Those that are criticized here may well work in Cuba.
P.S. About finance, I know. But there are other nuances in politics.

[rotmistr60]

this is “the first high-resolution image of a Delfin class submarine.”

And this despite the fact that at hand and with excellent technical intelligence and some respectful United States in Cuba. So the Cubans have perfectly organized countermeasures and counterintelligence works perfectly.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Freeman

I repent, I overlooked .... Well, at least I guessed,

What you repent is good. But what I didn’t guess is bad ... AHA.
For reference: in the west (on the naval slang) the fence of the retractable devices (wheelhouse) is called SAIL ...
When I first heard "this", I was also numb ... from absurdity.
Glory to the Almighty: there was someone to explain what was what.
But.

[Svarog51]

Alexander And which one in "Features" ... was filmed, could it really be put into action with vodka? Or are they bullshitting?

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Svarog51

really could vodka be brought into action?

Sergei, I don't know with Vodka, but on alcohol (bioethanol!) German submarines of the Fuhrer's special detachment even went to Antarctica in WWII. Then our experimental ones also went to alcohol. And the last infa about the Spanish S-80, which has VNEU "alcoholic bread". Piranha also has VNEU ... so it is quite possible.
IMHO.

[ZaharoFF]

The inhabitants of Cuba are courageous people, of course. It is unlikely that they will "rattle" with weapons, even if they have one.

[V.I.P.]

Unclear. Is it their development and production, or is it North Korean or Iranian boats? Is there a shipyard in Cuba ??

[Protos]

Quote: Shuttle

Quote: aszzz888

I wonder what is the depth of immersion? I suppose within 50-100 m.

A small boat is easier to make durable than a large one.
It's like nuts. A large nut and a small one if the walls have the same thickness have different strengths.
On the other hand, a small boat has significantly less autonomy.

On LiFe4 and with modern diesel engines, autonomy is quite normal!