In Russia, the development of a new armored car based on the "Athlete"

In Russia, the development of a new armored car based on the "Athlete"

A new armored car designed for law enforcement agencies is being developed in Russia. This was announced by the General Director of the Military Industrial Company (VPK LLC) Alexander Krasovitsky.


According to Krasovitsky, the creation of a new armored car took into account the experience of creating and testing the Athlete armored car - the further development of the Tiger armored car range. The general director of the military-industrial complex did not spread the word about the new machine, saying only that it would be oriented mainly towards export and would be shown in August at the Army 2020 forum.

She (the new car) is more likely to be export oriented. Its official name is “VPK-23136 Special Armored Vehicle using elements of the Athlete armored vehicle. In fact, we are making a new dual-purpose armored vehicle

- said Krasovitsky.

The new generation of armored vehicles "Athlete" was developed by the "Military Industrial Company" by order of the Ministry of Defense of Russia as part of the development work of the same name. For the first time, the Athlete was presented at the Army-2019 International Military-Technical Forum at the end of June.

The armored car received a more powerful engine - YaMZ-5347-24 (240 horsepower versus 215 in the Tiger), the lifting capacity of the Athlete increased to 1600 kg. The maximum speed is 120 km / h. Wheel formula - 4x4.

As standard, the level of ballistic protection corresponds to the second class of OTT, air conditioning is installed in the cabin. It is stated that the "Athlete" will be able to withstand a detonation of 2 kg of TNT, but the protection class can be increased. Also, the cars will receive special seats, which should protect the crew from the consequences of detonation.

The armored car received an infrared spotlight and a special spotlight-seeker. Installed a system of circular video review.

Recall that the state tests of the armored car "Athlete", which is a further development of the line of armored vehicles "Tiger", are scheduled for this spring. Two variants of the armored car were proposed for testing - a three-door special-purpose vehicle (ASN) and a five-door multi-purpose vehicle (AMN-2).
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  1. Vladimir_2U 3 March 2020 17: 12 New
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    Something like some kind of mouse fuss with these armored cars, in my opinion.
    1. prior 3 March 2020 17: 22 New
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      And what is not clear ?!
      It’s just that the previous model did not have cruise control, climate control, airbags and side seat support in the configuration. Now everything is included.
      1. Malyuta 3 March 2020 18: 37 New
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        Quote: prior
        But what is not clear ?! Just the previous model did not have cruise control, climate control, airbags and side seat support. Now everything is included.

        We now have “Aurus” for all the diseases of leftism, though in the price segment it is a competitor to the “Boeing 777”, but this is normal for an armored car of increased comfort. And if you stick an armored hood and a 23rd ZUShka to his roof, then, in principle, a perfectly suitable E-mobile and money do not need to be cut for the construction of new netanalagafmir. hi
        1. rich 3 March 2020 21: 43 New
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          Now we have “Aurus” for all diseases of leftism, though in the price segment it is a competitor to “Boeing 777”

          Aurus Senat S600: a representative sedan for 18 million rubles from the manufacturer. The entire quota of 120 cars for the nineteenth year was sold back in August, and in the fall it became known that all cars were sold for the 2020th. For 21 years, the package of foreign orders is already more than 600 Aurus Senat S600 cars and 96 Aurus Senat L700 armored limousines.
          Currently, the production of cars has been adjusted at NAMI's facilities. In mid-2020, the Sollers plant in the city of Vladivostok will launch assembly of mass-produced cars. All rights to the design of machines and their units belong to Aurus LLC. Adil Shirinov was appointed as the Chief Executive Officer of the Aurus brand to replace the dismissed Gerhard Hilgert.






        2. dinis 4 March 2020 23: 55 New
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          You grunted stupidly.
    2. Revival 3 March 2020 17: 23 New
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      A new bolt will be screwed and here is a new machine
      1. seregatara1969 3 March 2020 19: 27 New
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        A special spotlight, than the usual one did not fit?
    3. 6erJIblu 3 March 2020 17: 46 New
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      Well, like a "business". Better sell and live. Anything is better than shutting down from the lack of orders and job losses for many people. Capitalism epst (((
    4. Lopatov 3 March 2020 19: 55 New
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      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      Something like some kind of mouse fuss with these armored cars, in my opinion.

      Money.
      They knocked out funds for the development of "Athlete" from the Moscow Region.
      Developed.
      Now they are going to carry out a tiny privatization - they will replace some components and assemblies with foreign ones, and here is a finished product for a foreign customer. How is it there? "In fact, we are making a new armored vehicle", the Russian MO can go through the woods.

      The guys are very cunning there ...
      1. dinis 4 March 2020 23: 59 New
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        I think that part of Deripaska’s business is owned by those in power, hence the concessions are different.
  2. Zaurbek 3 March 2020 17: 24 New
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    This means: Athlete + Camins + ACP Allison ...... for export .. The main thing is that we would adopt the original.
    1. KCA
      KCA 3 March 2020 17: 39 New
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      Why Allison, maybe ZF, they, like Cummins, are made in Russia
      1. Zaurbek 3 March 2020 17: 42 New
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        Cummins are made in China., Collected from us .... and Allison is put on heavy equipment (for some reason) and the ZF on tractors.
    2. Doliva63 3 March 2020 19: 45 New
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      Quote: Zaurbek
      This means: Athlete + Camins + ACP Allison ...... for export .. The main thing is that we would adopt the original.

      Why do we need it? When the Yankees pushed such squalor off the road, they immediately remembered - but if there had been an armored personnel carrier in its place! So, maybe let there be an armored personnel carrier instead of all this heap of non-cars? It’s cheaper to go to the beer hall in the army. Although, kaneshno, and went on armored personnel carriers drinks
      1. Zaurbek 3 March 2020 19: 46 New
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        Pushing is not the main task of the machine ..... the tank will push everyone.
        1. Doliva63 3 March 2020 19: 50 New
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          Quote: Zaurbek
          Pushing is not the main task of the machine ..... the tank will push everyone.

          And what is the task of all these "tigers"?
          1. Zaurbek 3 March 2020 19: 57 New
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            Army machine, tractor, carrier of weapons and equipment .....- modernized Hammer conceptually.
            1. Lopatov 3 March 2020 19: 59 New
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              Quote: Zaurbek
              Army machine, tractor, carrier of weapons and equipment.

              How did they manage without the USSR ???
              1. Zaurbek 3 March 2020 20: 00 New
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                about the same as the Wehrmacht with a BMW motorcycle (Ancestor of the Urals) and the US Armed Forces and allies on Willis.
                1. Lopatov 3 March 2020 20: 06 New
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                  Quote: Zaurbek
                  about the same as the Wehrmacht with a BMW motorcycle

                  And here is the Wehrmacht with a motorcycle?
                  There was an armored personnel carrier, there was an armored personnel carrier, there were box body vans at the automobile base. And everyone was happy.
                  UAZs in motorized rifle regiments at the authorities and one at sappers. A total of 5 pieces per regiment. If the regiment is contingent and is located somewhere in Novopupinsk TurkVO, then three more UAZs are for chemists.
                  And all .....
                  1. Zaurbek 3 March 2020 20: 07 New
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                    If everyone was happy, progress would not have occurred ..... the analogue of Hammer in the USSR was not mastered.
                    1. Lopatov 3 March 2020 20: 12 New
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                      Quote: Zaurbek
                      Hammer's analog in the USSR was not mastered.

                      Why is it needed?
                      The American "Humvee" is a transport for the "light" battalions. Infantry.
                      Our last battalions in cars ordered us to live long under Gorbachev.
                      Remained only on the APC and on the BMP.
                      The USSR simply didn’t need a Humvee - this is definitely a big step back.
                      1. Zaurbek 3 March 2020 20: 17 New
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                        Nevertheless, this is the most widespread format of an army car .... in the world .... The USSR Armed Forces should not be taken as an example, they were imprisoned for a big war ... and in the yard there are 30 local wars. Therefore, the Hammers made armored ... and the TIGER created armored. And here he is better.
                      2. Lopatov 3 March 2020 20: 21 New
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                        Quote: Zaurbek
                        and in the courtyard of about 30 local wars.

                        Exactly.
                        And local wars forced the United States to write off its Humvee. BMP "heavy" have remained since the Cold War. Added armored personnel carriers for the Stryker units. Local wars do not affect them ...

                        But Humvee was ordered to live a long time, now they will be replaced on the Oshkosh JLTV.
                      3. Zaurbek 3 March 2020 20: 25 New
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                        They went to the other extreme .. but the United States and the realities are different .... and in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation still provide and provide modern cars for the aircraft.
                      4. Lopatov 3 March 2020 20: 29 New
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                        Quote: Zaurbek
                        They went to the other extreme ..

                        Why extreme?
                        The Humvees have not shown themselves in local wars at all.
                        Therefore, at first they were temporarily replaced by freelance MRAPs, and now JLTV will be replaced permanently
                        Everything is reasonable.
                        Quote: Zaurbek
                        and in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation it is still necessary to provide and provide with modern automobiles.

                        Normal automotive technology. not this misunderstanding. That “Tiger”, that “Athlete”, that “Typhoon-Airborne Forces” - essentially nothing absolutely necessary .. Strongly limiting the combat capabilities of units. First of all, on mobility.
                      5. Zaurbek 3 March 2020 20: 32 New
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                        Some cars are needed to patrol the occupied territories (with the threat of shelling and detonation, while others in the fighting ... these are different cars.
                      6. Lopatov 3 March 2020 20: 44 New
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                        Quote: Zaurbek
                        Some cars are needed to patrol the occupied territories (with the threat of shelling and detonation, while others in the fighting ...

                        Well ... the JLTVs are for warfare, and if necessary for "patrolling" the MRAPs are also riveted.

                        The Humvee is just a dumb car.
                        For example, they have a box in their battery. artillery except tractors and vehicles for the ammunition of 9 (nine) "Humvee" with 7 (seven) single-axle trailers. And we have a KShM based on an armored personnel carrier, a KShM on a GAZ-66 chassis (Ural 4320), and actually the Ural 4320 Total three cars.
                      7. Zaurbek 3 March 2020 22: 53 New
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                        JLTV is predominantly MRAP .... and HAVMI has a lot of professions that UAZ cannot perform due to its carrying capacity.
                      8. Lopatov 4 March 2020 08: 11 New
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                        Quote: Zaurbek
                        JLTV - mainly Mrap ...

                        No.
                        This is exactly a replacement for the Humvee.

                        Quote: Zaurbek
                        which UAZ can not perform due to the carrying capacity.

                        And where does the UAZ?
                        UAZ in the Soviet army performed well, very few tasks.
                        And about the replacement, I already gave an example. Instead of their nine “Humvees” with seven trailers, we have an armored personnel carrier, a shisharik with a kung and the Urals
                2. Grits 4 March 2020 01: 33 New
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                  Quote: Spade
                  Normal automotive technology. not this misunderstanding. That "Tiger", that "Athlete", that "Typhoon-Airborne" - things essentially are absolutely unnecessary ..

                  The article says that there will be a car for law enforcement agencies. That is, for the police, the FSB, the Russian Guard. But there are already a bunch of cars of this class. Offhand:
                  Bear
                  Highlander
                  Patrol A
                  Tiger-SM
                  Falcatus
                  Esaul
                  Federal
                  And a lot of everything that was developed and is being developed. Few? It seems that this ridge for the "development of budgetary funds" was saddled by all and sundry.
  • Doliva63 3 March 2020 20: 08 New
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    Quote: Zaurbek
    Army machine, tractor, carrier of weapons and equipment .....- modernized Hammer conceptually.

    Is the modernized Hammer a fetish of some kind? That such could not drag UAZ, calculated on 500 kg. excess weight - even on a trailer, even on yourself?
    1. Zaurbek 3 March 2020 20: 09 New
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      Compare the UAZ with the Dodge 3/4 ... during the war.
      1. Doliva63 3 March 2020 20: 14 New
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        Quote: Zaurbek
        Compare the UAZ with the Dodge 3/4 ... during the war.

        And for what? I did not use Dodge, and UAZ in the army suited me. The equipment should be one that ensures that the troops perform the assigned task. What is the case when the use of an UAZ or armored personnel carrier disrupted the task due to the fact that they are not Hammers.
        1. Zaurbek 3 March 2020 20: 21 New
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          Well, Oise does not pull, what Hammer pokes (in our army this is done by Gas 66). Mobility is different. There are descendants of Willis in the US Army.
          1. Doliva63 3 March 2020 20: 33 New
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            Quote: Zaurbek
            Well, Oise does not pull, what Hammer pokes (in our army this is done by Gas 66). Mobility is different. There are descendants of Willis in the US Army.

            What difference does Hammer pull if UAZ isn’t supposed to? And what was the 66th bad? Even intermeddle in a helicopter. And with mobility was a complete order, do not escalate. What was more mobile in the world than the Soviet oddshbr? But I didn’t see the Hammers there laughing
            1. Zaurbek 3 March 2020 20: 34 New
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              66 - truck ... Hammer (Tiger) - jeep .... (armored)
            2. Doliva63 3 March 2020 20: 40 New
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              Quote: Zaurbek
              66 - truck ... Hammer (Tiger) - jeep .... (armored)

              Why in the army an armored jeep to fight tanks? This is a relic of the First World War, when they suffered armored cars. Their current consumer is the US Army. Why do we need it? And Putin’s “guard” has plenty of such rubbish, if that.
            3. Zaurbek 3 March 2020 22: 54 New
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              not needed! and the machine PTRK, Medical, reconnaissance, communications .... etc.?
            4. Doliva63 4 March 2020 19: 23 New
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              Quote: Zaurbek
              not needed! and the machine PTRK, Medical, reconnaissance, communications .... etc.?

              Intelligence, communications and anti-tank systems perfectly used the BRDM-2. Doctors don’t need armor - on the battlefield, all one thing bangs, and in the rear armor is useless. Let the BRDM-3 be done if the old one is not happy. At least unification will remain.
          2. matross 4 March 2020 00: 09 New
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            [Quote]
            Putin’s “guard” has plenty of such rubbish, if that.quote]

            The guard is not Putin's, but the Russian - Rosguard. And for her tasks, the Tigers family is just the thing. And do not read the article through the word - a car for law enforcement agencies, and not for plowing.
          3. Doliva63 4 March 2020 19: 17 New
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            [quote = matRoss] [quote]
            Putin’s “guard” has plenty of such rubbish, if that.quote]

            The guard is not Putin's, but the Russian - Rosguard. And for her tasks, the Tigers family is just the thing. And read the article not through the word - a car for law enforcement agencies, and not for plowing. [/ Quote]
            Who then are the "power structures" - regional societies of "jocks"? And so all sorts of FSB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs are law enforcement agencies. But Putin’s “guard” is 50% infantry, in the sense of an explosive. So for whom is the car, in your opinion, an attentive reader? laughing
          4. matross 4 March 2020 23: 59 New
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            Power structures are the collective name of all law enforcement agencies, my friend. Unofficial, but well-established and legitimate.
            And again, for the most oppositional: Rosguard - the National Guard of the Russian Federation. Performs tasks in the interests of the state, reporting directly to the president.
          5. Doliva63 5 March 2020 19: 14 New
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            Quote: matRoss
            Power structures are the collective name of all law enforcement agencies, my friend. Unofficial, but well-established and legitimate.
            And again, for the most oppositional: Rosguard - the National Guard of the Russian Federation. Performs tasks in the interests of the state, reporting directly to the president.

            Well, as friends you rashly wrote me down laughing But what, the Russian Defense Ministry is not a power structure? However, in this state, probably not. I agree drinks And the "guard" you mentioned is directly subordinate to the so-called. "director" in the person of a certain Zolotov, a person with very dark spots in his biography. Good luck in the patriotic career, drinks but it’s not worth wasting your precious time on me hi
          6. matross 5 March 2020 21: 38 New
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            The style feels swollen already? I will not condemn.
            In order not to waste my precious, I briefly explain - the Russian Guard, headed by the director, reports directly to the president.
  • Constanty 3 March 2020 17: 40 New
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    I do not quite see the meaning of this car. There is a Tiger with a slightly lower carrying capacity (presumably up to 1500 kg), on the other hand a very interesting and versatile GAZ 3937 Vodnik - the latter should be developed and produced in larger quantities - this would be wiser than the construction of another model similar to the Tiger "
    1. Constanty 3 March 2020 18: 56 New
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      Can someone explain what I wrote wrong, because I do not understand the minuses.
      1. Lopatov 3 March 2020 19: 48 New
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        Quote: Constanty
        Can someone explain what I wrote wrong, because I do not understand the minuses.

        You dare to encroach on the income of Deripaska. And that is unacceptable.
      2. BREAKTHROUGH READY 3 March 2020 20: 38 New
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        There is a "Tiger" with a slightly lower payload
        The tiger no longer meets modern requirements, and its modernization reserve has been exhausted. So they make new cars to replace: for the airborne forces "typhoon", in the SV "athlete".
        very interesting and versatile GAZ 3937 Vodnik - the latter should be developed and produced in large quantities
        The Vodnik was a complete machine with an unsuccessful layout, tremendous running and catastrophic reliability, therefore, despite the practically unspent resource from the combat units, they had long ago been brought to garbage can storage warehouses, or donated (free of charge) to Syria.
        1. Paranoid50 3 March 2020 20: 58 New
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          Quote: BREAKTHROUGH READY
          they have long since been taken to the garbage dumps, or donated (free of charge) to Syria.

          While serving in Uruguay, about 50 units were delivered. yes
        2. Constanty 3 March 2020 22: 10 New
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          Thanks for the specific answer. Vodnik was a machine with significant development potential and unique capabilities. He swam and modular design


          With the help of a quick module replacement, you could get a car for a specific task. And what was wrong, it was necessary to refine and improve in my opinion, of course. This car is so weird that it's cool wink
          1. Grits 4 March 2020 01: 43 New
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            Quote: Constanty
            And what was wrong, it was necessary to refine and improve in my opinion, of course. This car is so weird that it's cool

            Vodnik was just unlucky that he was born in the 90s. And not now, when such a stir around armored cars. Now he would have worn in an improved form across the expanses of the country in different configurations.
    2. loki565 3 March 2020 19: 16 New
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      The tiger and the aquatic have very weak mine protection. The campaign will be done by a car close to MRI
      1. Constanty 3 March 2020 19: 24 New
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        But MRAP - this is usually the minimum equivalent of 6 kg of TNT under the wheel - writes about 2 kilograms here. How much did the Tiger have?
        1. loki565 3 March 2020 19: 34 New
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          I don’t know the tiger, but it’s like they tested it at 0.6 kg. But iveko (lynx) withstood 6 kg

          1. Constanty 3 March 2020 19: 36 New
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            If 0,6 kg, then in fact the “Athlete” has a lot of progress. The armored Iveco turned out to be faulty, and the chassis does not stand up. Denmark picks up its LMV cars
    3. Grits 4 March 2020 01: 38 New
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      Quote: Constanty
      very interesting and versatile GAZ 3937 Vodnik - the latter should be developed and produced in larger quantities - this would be wiser than the construction of another model similar to the Tiger

      Sorry for Vodnik. Ruined. Could shed those sores that revealed and went cool car. I like him. Not one army has anything similar.
  • lopuhan2006 3 March 2020 17: 59 New
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    Quote: Vladimir_2U
    Something like some kind of mouse fuss with these armored cars, in my opinion.

    There is a not very successful Tiger, Typhoon is large. The athlete is better than the Tiger in terms of size and protection. So it’s not mouse fuss, but quite a bit of work on the bugs. The army needs a small mobile MCI, including as a platform, for the same Tiger is not perfect.
    1. Doliva63 4 March 2020 19: 28 New
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      Quote: lopuhan2006
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      Something like some kind of mouse fuss with these armored cars, in my opinion.

      There is a not very successful Tiger, Typhoon is large. The athlete is better than the Tiger in terms of size and protection. So it’s not mouse fuss, but quite a bit of work on the bugs. The army needs a small mobile MCI, including as a platform, for the same Tiger is not perfect.

      Why the army MRAP, to replace the BMP and armored personnel carrier, or what? Mrapu place only in BB. But there too - BMP and armored personnel carriers.
  • RUSLAN 3 March 2020 18: 22 New
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    The dough for the development will be cut down, but in the end it won’t go into a series ... Armored cars are already divorced, like a shopaholic’s cowards ... Look, there was one UAZ in the SA, and everyone was happy! There were no problems with logistics, but now it’s probably for everyone an armored car you need to develop your own maintenance regulations! Yes, you probably also need to retrain to transfer from the Tiger to Athletes. Take the same States, they managed HMMWV quite recently, they now need to develop a budget, so they decided to transfer to Oshkosh L-ATV ! And we have a leapfrog with armored cars so it will be, while a bench with a cut on the developments of n e cover!
  • fa2998 3 March 2020 18: 31 New
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    Quote: 6erJIblu
    Anything is better than shutting down from the lack of orders and job losses for many people. Capitalism epst (((

    But there’s just no orders! We have all sorts of “pioneer” projects, darkness and darkness. Every year there are “new” cars. You’ll get confused in the names. They’ll do 1-2, or a dozen, and take on the next model. And the projects probably pays the budget. A dozen tanks, so many armored vehicles, (and there are so many combat modules on them) .- and all having no analogues! what hi hi
  • Alexey from Perm 3 March 2020 19: 28 New
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    who needs it?
  • syndicalist 3 March 2020 20: 06 New
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    Ukrainian "Novator" from today's news on the parameters looks more solid
  • TatarinSSSR 3 March 2020 21: 43 New
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    Honestly, I’m already confused in all of these “new” Russian armored vehicles. Once a month they are created by new ones, everything is created and created, but nevertheless in Syria the same are the same Tigers and a couple of Typhoons from the Parade. And further, such native BTR ala 80 and other 82A such to the heart mixed with the Oise and Kamaz awning. Oh yes, also the Lynx Iveco.
  • cat Rusich 3 March 2020 22: 18 New
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    I offer Btr-40 and Btr-152. Yes, to modernize - electronics, a motor, a new alloy of armor ... To begin with, to call from the reserve of "old men" of the times of the USSR, put electronics, a modern motor.
  • Aleks2000 3 March 2020 23: 00 New
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    Indeed, according to comments, where are the old done?
    Their endlessness is being developed, developed, developed ...
    And there’s not much to be said about purchases ...

    And what about Chechen buggies? Chubais nano-scooters? Kalashnikov quad bike?
    Not heard for a long time
  • yfast 4 March 2020 00: 49 New
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    Just like aircraft carriers sculpt.
  • lopuhan2006 4 March 2020 19: 48 New
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    Quote: Doliva63
    Quote: lopuhan2006
    Quote: Vladimir_2U
    Something like some kind of mouse fuss with these armored cars, in my opinion.

    There is a not very successful Tiger, Typhoon is large. The athlete is better than the Tiger in terms of size and protection. So it’s not mouse fuss, but quite a bit of work on the bugs. The army needs a small mobile MCI, including as a platform, for the same Tiger is not perfect.

    Why the army MRAP, to replace the BMP and armored personnel carrier, or what? Mrapu place only in BB. But there too - BMP and armored personnel carriers.

    You yourself see that MRIAS are mobile and mobile than BMPs and armored personnel carriers, and the conditions are different.