Armenia armed with Indian artillery radar Swathi

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Armenia armed with Indian artillery radar Swathi

Armenia signed a contract with India for the supply of four Swathi Weapon Locating Radar (WLR) four Indian artillery ground detection radar stations. This is written by the Indian media with reference to sources in the government of India.

Armenia signed a contract to acquire four Swathi Weapon Locating Radar (WLR) artillery positions in India. The contract is worth $ 40 million; deliveries have already begun. According to reports, the Indian radar became the winner of the tender announced by the Ministry of Defense of Armenia, in which similar radars of Russian and Polish production also participated.



The Indian Radar Swathi Weapon Locating Radar (WLR) is developed on the basis of the multifunctional Rajendra radar station of the Indian Akash air defense system. A radar with a passive phased array antenna detects mortar shots at a distance of up to 20 km, artillery - up to 30 km, and missile - up to 40 km. The station is installed on the chassis of the Tatra T815 (8x8).

The first production Swathi WLR radar from an ordered batch of 28 complexes was transferred to the Indian army only in 2017, although tests and testing were conducted by DRDO since 2003. Reportedly, Armenia became the first known foreign customer of this system.
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  1. +3
    3 March 2020 14: 09
    About how. Pakistan is friends with Turkey and Azerbaijan. India is friends with Iran and Armenia. Hence the military-technical cooperation. I look seriously took up the army in Armenia.
    1. +3
      3 March 2020 14: 16
      Quote: Sky Strike fighter
      India is friends with Iran and Armenia
      I think that if Armenia had been friends with Israel, then India would not have broken off. But these are my speculations.
      1. +1
        3 March 2020 14: 37
        Israel, on the other hand, is cooperating with Azerbaijan in defiance of Iran.
      2. -1
        10 March 2020 09: 08
        Israeli systems are not bad, but they have never been "budgetary".
    2. +2
      4 March 2020 00: 17
      Given that Armenia is friends with China much more closely than with India, I think the decision was made on the cost criterion in the first place. Apparently the Indian offer was the most affordable.
  2. -2
    3 March 2020 14: 26
    That is, the Indians taught the Armenians to dance around the WRL.
  3. 0
    3 March 2020 14: 26
    Armenia armed with Indian artillery radar Swathi

    Cool! Elephants included?
    1. +4
      3 March 2020 18: 10
      Quote: An60
      That is, the Indians taught the Armenians to dance around the WRL.

      Quote: Vasyan1971
      Armenia armed with Indian artillery radar Swathi

      Cool! Elephants included?

      Why are you all so worried about the armaments of Armenia? Or are you Armenians? Let them buy what they enjoy. I don’t understand, what sadness is that? request
      1. -1
        3 March 2020 18: 33
        Quote: Piramidon
        Why are you all so worried about the armaments of Armenia?

        Quote: Piramidon
        I don’t understand, what sadness is that?

        Who is sad? Who is worried?
        I worry about the elephants - will they take root in Armenia with the preservation of the necessary military properties?
        1. +2
          3 March 2020 21: 22
          Nothing. There is even a crocodile farm in Armenia. Elephants also take root. And there have been a lot of Indians in Armenia in recent years. They speak excellent Armenian and Kochari dance.
          1. 0
            3 March 2020 23: 11
            Quote: finish
            Elephants will also take root.

            So the money was not wasted.
  4. -4
    3 March 2020 14: 40
    .. The cost of the contract is $ 40 million, deliveries have already begun.

    And what is the rollback? Is there enough for repainting? what
  5. +7
    3 March 2020 14: 53
    So the tender was held and bought. The choice of radars was not great. The Soviet Zoo 1 detects artifact 20 km, RZSO (240mm) -35 km, mine 120mm-22 km. Zoo 1m arta-23km MLRS -45 km. So they were rolled only at exhibitions. They are unlikely to be in the army of the Russian Federation ...... Ukrainian Zoo 2 mines 120 mm-30 km, MLRS 240 mm-50 km did not participate in the tender. And the factory in Zaporozhye is working or not. Radars from the USA, Israel and other countries were not considered .... Yes, the price of the Indian radar was probably lower than that of its competitors, but the figures are similar.
  6. 0
    3 March 2020 14: 56
    Reportedly, Armenia became the first known foreign customer of this system.


    No words, but probably they are more comfortable ...
  7. 0
    3 March 2020 14: 56
    I wonder why our "Zoo" did not lengthen them, really at the cost
    1. 0
      10 March 2020 09: 07
      Quote: Warrior-80
      I wonder why our "Zoo" did not lengthen them, really at the cost

      As for the price of the Zoo - no one knows it, the complex has never been exported. They also write about the shortcomings of the Zoo in the mountains.

      The development of the Indian system is based on a similar complex purchased in the USA.
  8. -1
    3 March 2020 15: 16
    Cheaper, probably ... But then, as many as four pieces ...
  9. 0
    3 March 2020 15: 48
    It is curious, but are not these acquisitions for our loans?
    1. +1
      4 March 2020 00: 21
      Under arms contracts, the Russian Federation does not transfer funds to Armenia. The money is sent to the Russian manufacturing plant, and Armenia receives finished goods with a loan.
      1. 0
        4 March 2020 11: 37
        In addition to tied loans, Russia gives ordinary loans to Armenia. It never occurred to you?
        1. 0
          4 March 2020 12: 18
          And are there proofs?
  10. 0
    3 March 2020 15: 50
    First time sniper rifles. Random.
    Second time-radar. Coincidence.
    For the third time, it’s a regularity, or maybe a “tradition”.
    1. +2
      4 March 2020 00: 19
      Not sniper rifles, but thermal imagers. We heard a jingle, but don’t know where it came from.
  11. +1
    3 March 2020 16: 18
    Tender, damn it. And we, like fools of Armenia, sold weapons on credit. And not just them. Then we write off non-repayable loans. And Peskov will say that it is good when money is not returned to us.
  12. -2
    3 March 2020 16: 33
    It turns out interestingly: they buy from us on credit (which we will forgive later, they are "partners"), but in India for real money ???
    1. -4
      3 March 2020 22: 24
      What did you think ??? Russia pays for "friendship"
  13. 0
    3 March 2020 16: 39
    As the platform can and norms. But in the mountains such dimensions ?! I think on rollover our shell will be like a turtle. It is interesting how the workmanship and terms of operation before the scheduled repair.
    1. 0
      10 March 2020 09: 04
      They write that these complexes are specially designed for the Himalayas. I think that they should work well in the Armenian mountains
  14. +3
    3 March 2020 17: 07
    Quote: Sky Strike fighter
    About how. Pakistan is friends with Turkey and Azerbaijan. India is friends with Iran and Armenia. Hence the military-technical cooperation. I look seriously took up the army in Armenia.
    I also drew attention to the Pakistan-Azerbaijan axis and how India-Armenia is in opposition to it. Regarding Iran and India, I doubt, maybe some of their affairs in Pakistan overlap, and just "mutual love", but Iran, like Pakistan, by the way, is more closed on China, especially China is Iran's main trading partner. The coronavirus epidemic alone shows clearly how many Iranians were in China.

    Only one thing is not clear at whose expense the banquet? We participated in the tender, from us the Armenians buy all the weapons at prices as for our army, receive soft loans, and even in rubles, and chose Indian equipment ... Before that they bought large-caliber MLRS in China, besides, again from we are bought on credit and at "internal" prices. This gives us real money, or products, etc., but what about promises to us?
    Moreover, the very possibility of repaying loans by such buyers as Armenia and Belarus, for example, is under a very big question, apart from only solvent Kazakhstan. Again, we will write everything off and tell you that we are financing and supporting our defense industry in this way?

    There has been a lot of criticism regarding Belarus recently from the supply of our loser integrators, it doesn’t matter to me personally, but again, there are also counter-deliveries of arms and equipment with China, and the volume of cooperation is only growing. Tomorrow we will face the fact that the nodes that, for example, are on our Tu-140 will also be on the Chinese strategist, I generally am silent about the MZKT chassis, it has already gone around the world.
    The same story with Kazakhstan, Kazakhs also increasingly find it difficult to localize the production of weapons, and also prefer foreign partners and suppliers. These are projects with the Israelis on artillery, albeit not entirely successful, and cooperation with Paramount Group. At the same time, the domestic self-propelled gun "Vienna" remains unclaimed, with the exception of a few units of supplies to our army and division, if I am not mistaken in quantity, for export to Azerbaijan. There is at least something to show. With wheeled vehicles, of course, a paragraph, here it is clear at least why we are losing the market - once again we are modernizing the grandfather of the BTR-60, we will not give birth to anything further than rolling out the new version of the BTR-80. I don’t presume to praise the same Ukrainian BTR-4, which is bursting at the seams, but the Ukrainians have at least created something new, and most importantly, with the possibility of aft landing, and we all jump into the side windows of the BTR-80 depicting targets in the shooting range.

    In short, on the whole, such a tendency, even with a separate example, and even more so with a CSTO ally, and simply a country whose existence depends entirely on us, and at our expense, is not in our favor and is not good, especially with the approaching completion of the rearmament program. It would be incomprehensible to understand what our defense industry hopes for, even if they surrender the near market.

  15. -3
    3 March 2020 22: 20
    So we will see how the Armenians will mask these bulky radars in Karabakh in the distance from the position of the Minbats to 20 km.
  16. -5
    3 March 2020 22: 22
    Russia gives and India sells ... that’s the difference
  17. 0
    3 March 2020 23: 44
    Quote: Camille
    So we will see how the Armenians will mask these bulky radars in Karabakh in the distance from the position of the Minbats to 20 km.
    Are you talking about Karabakh? In theory, given that your army has a large number of UAVs and kamikaze drones, it’s not a tenant even on a march to the area, but this is an idea.
    In practice, the last short-term outbreak of hostilities showed that despite the saturation of the troops with the most up-to-date equipment for which there was money during high oil prices, your army and the authorities are not ready.
    The same kamikaze Israeli "Harop", originally and primarily intended for the destruction of air defense systems, they destroyed at best a couple of tanks, and a bus with volunteer veterans of Karabakh, which was a pity to look at, let alone spend expensive Harop - they themselves died from shortness of breath.
    According to my observations, all that your ministry took out of this war was the creation of the YouTube channel, profiles on Instagram, Facebook. In this, indeed, you had a failure, which is just worth scamming at your rear and reporting dubious content of journalists from LifeNews, de jure of the Russian channel, de facto Armenian. Media is certainly good and it was necessary to rectify the situation, BUT this does not win the war, and short battles showed that your army has problems and are quite large, of a fundamental plan. I believe that your top management is well aware of this, and therefore does not risk starting a war, although it shakes its fists and spews lightning from the stands.
    A simple example, the same Harop drones. For me, for example, their use by your Armed Forces was a reason to start reading about them in general as a type of weapon. At the same time, one does not need to be seven spans in the forehead to understand a simple thing, it was not news for the Armenian Armed Forces that Azerbaijan turned out to be the "unnamed buyer" of these UAVs, because their air defense and "were silent", you could not destroy a single radar or air defense system this effective, but very expensive weapon, exchanging it for targets that could be destroyed with the same artillery, and as a result, they could not use attack aircraft. That is, the Armenians sensibly worked reconnaissance and they were ready to use the Harop UAV, and you either could not hide the fact of its acquisition in the process, or the army was a checkpoint. This is also confirmed by the fact that quite quickly it became known about the control of a part of the UAV by the Israelis, representatives of the manufacturer, and by their stupidity they also set up the Jews.
    The most out of the ordinary thing is the death of your special forces unit, it was impossible to think of anything worthless how to spend years on selection and preparation, and then stupidly bury everything in front of Armenian positions. This is your elite, and what then happens in your usual units and what is the level of training - only whitewashed borders, media-licked barracks and portraits of the leader on every corner? ...

    So do not swagger, yes, you have a lot of modern weapons, like a fool's candy wrappers, but it’s not a fact that an effective weapon means its effective use and the effectiveness of the system in general and the availability of advantages.
    1. +3
      4 March 2020 00: 43
      The loss of MI-24 from a shot from an RPG.
      Loss of TOC-1.
      It also does not add to the level of competence.
      Although the Armenian military leadership also allowed a blatant lack of professionalism.
      Prior to the events of April 2016, sabotage by the Azerbaijani Armed Forces was carried out at least every three months. Each time to no avail, but each time demonstrating that the border is completely technically not equipped with optical tracking at night. Also, there are no thermal imagers and night vision devices for soldiers in combat positions. All this led to the fact that the Azerbaijani Askar of the SN were able to covertly approach combat post # 116 and capture it, then penetrating briefly from Talysh, where they killed three old people over 80 and mutilated their dead bodies. After some time, almost all of this special forces detachment was destroyed during the retreat, because The motorized rifle units of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces could not support this promotion of special forces.
      After the events of 2016, the border was equipped as soon as possible with the aforementioned optical control means, thanks to equipment that was purchased with private funds and mounted on the border by Armenians living in the United States. Since then, the Azerbaijani Armed Forces have made only two attempts at sabotage penetration, during which they were convinced on their own losses that the secret approach is now extremely difficult to carry out.
      1. 0
        5 March 2020 14: 57
        They informed you about the three old Armenians, but why didn’t they tell where the forces of the Armenians who were sitting in the trenches near the village of Talysh, at the heights of Leletepe, etc. ???
        1. 0
          5 March 2020 21: 51
          They showed me where the Azerbaijani special forces had gone, who stormed the 116th post in the Talysh village area.
          1. 0
            6 March 2020 09: 14
            And didn’t they show you the ratio of losses ???? For example, didn’t they show you how Armenian tanks were burning near Jabrail?
          2. 0
            6 March 2020 09: 16
            They didn’t just joke your posts, they even freed the village ... but .... it’s not their fault that they later left ... but all the heights that surround the village are under our control. Did you know ????
    2. 0
      5 March 2020 14: 49
      Sorry for the fact that I’m answering you late, and I didn’t receive a notification ... I’ll answer: I don’t know where you are from, but I’m pleasantly surprised how you’ve been acquainted with our mediocre leaders. There are enough of them everywhere .... I agree with you on some points, but some are not there because I myself was there and I know, for example, why the special forces retreated from the position they had taken in minutes and I know why they didn’t get out of there so competently .... I can only say this is not their fault but the fault of those who gave the order to leave. ... special forces worked in the direction of the village of Talysh, but you didn’t say about Leletep’s heights. There were no other special forces or claws of the other. Local guys worked there and I’ll tell you one thing: if you are a soldier, you must know what target area the brigade is on the offensive . So there the brigade freed up an area of ​​land which is equal to the task of the corps. I don’t know if I could explain to you. That is, this brigade with low forces opened a hole in the so-called Ohanyan defense line in 3 hours of battle .... The Israelis are not one hundred percent there was. You have april In 2016 and the summer of 2017, it was then in Israel that two employees of Elbit or Elta firm sued. This is a completely different story.
  18. +3
    4 March 2020 07: 51
    Quote: genisis
    The loss of MI-24 from a shot from an RPG.
    Loss of TOC-1.
    It also does not add to the level of competence.
    Although the Armenian military leadership also allowed a blatant lack of professionalism.
    Prior to the events of April 2016, sabotage by the Azerbaijani Armed Forces was carried out at least every three months. Each time to no avail, but each time demonstrating that the border is completely technically not equipped with optical tracking at night. Also, there are no thermal imagers and night vision devices for soldiers in combat positions. All this led to the fact that the Azerbaijani Askar of the SN were able to covertly approach combat post # 116 and capture it, then penetrating briefly from Talysh, where they killed three old people over 80 and mutilated their dead bodies. After some time, almost all of this special forces detachment was destroyed during the retreat, because The motorized rifle units of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces could not support this promotion of special forces.
    After the events of 2016, the border was equipped as soon as possible with the aforementioned optical control means, thanks to equipment that was purchased with private funds and mounted on the border by Armenians living in the United States. Since then, the Azerbaijani Armed Forces have made only two attempts at sabotage penetration, during which they were convinced on their own losses that the secret approach is now extremely difficult to carry out.

    With the Mi-24 lost from an RPG shot - there is such a relief that this probability is always high.

    I don't remember the details about the village of Talysh, but based on my modest personal experience, I would not confidently assert that the askers did it. It is known for sure that the askers made a mistake by posting their photos with the severed head of an Armenian serviceman, conscript, this is again evidence of the mess in their army and the unpreparedness of the authorities at all levels for war in modern conditions. After such a puncture on the part of Azerbaijanis, the Armenian side could already present anything to the "world community", including the chile and the corpses of the dead old people, the rest is "a matter of technology", for example, one can even say that the old people were raped and who knows who would doubt it.

    And about the dead special forces - just the opposite, the Armenians had instruments in their positions, they clearly saw them, these footage is on YouTube, in addition, the special forces went into the minefield, that is, reconnaissance was not really carried out, etc., in short, everything through the ass. As in our experience, and they have it even worse, the mentality and reality are added where, when promoting, the emphasis on clannishness, loyalty and personal loyalty to the clan in power, I believe that the fathers-commanders of the askers "distinguished themselves" here, thinking more about their careers and deflection before the local king, and not about the fulfillment of the task and the preservation of personnel.

    About sorties once a quarter - the Charter is perceived as a plan in the Soviet economy, I talked with fighters from both sides, since our markets and construction sites are teeming with them. The front line has been studied to a stone and a blade of grass by both sides, count how many years they have been fighting, first of all, only the human factor is variable, that is, the rotation and change of personnel. Constantly looking for a gap from each other, we were lucky to find a pass and we will not find out about it, we were unlucky, but the fathers-commanders who, apparently, "the plan is on fire" are pressing down, they go almost like suicide bombers. In this, both sides are 100% similar, and unfortunately we are not far behind.
  19. +1
    5 March 2020 15: 16
    Quote: Camille
    Sorry for the fact that I’m answering you late, and I didn’t receive a notification ... I’ll answer: I don’t know where you are from, but I’m pleasantly surprised how you’ve been acquainted with our mediocre leaders. There are enough of them everywhere .... I agree with you on some points, but some are not there because I myself was there and I know, for example, why the special forces retreated from the position they had taken in minutes and I know why they didn’t get out of there so competently .... I can only say this is not their fault but the fault of those who gave the order to leave. ... special forces worked in the direction of the village of Talysh, but you didn’t say about Leletep’s heights. There were no other special forces or claws of the other. Local guys worked there and I’ll tell you one thing: if you are a soldier, you must know what target area the brigade is on the offensive . So there the brigade freed up an area of ​​land which is equal to the task of the corps. I don’t know if I could explain to you. That is, this brigade with low forces opened a hole in the so-called Ohanyan defense line in 3 hours of battle .... The Israelis are not one hundred percent there was. You have april In 2016 and the summer of 2017, it was then in Israel that two employees of Elbit or Elta firm sued. This is a completely different story.

    And what kind of history did you have there right after the battles, allegedly accused several officers of the participants in the battles of treason, tortured, then executed and buried at night?
    An attempt, following the example of Turkish colleagues, to get together and figure out a small military coup or stupidly attempt to prepare for whom from the first persons of the Moscow Region, or even the country?
  20. -1
    10 March 2020 09: 02
    https://golosarmenii.am/article/97850/pochemu-armeniya-zakupila-indijskie-radary-kontrbatarejnoj-borby

    Here they write what the choice of the Indian system is based on. Moreover, they write about the shortcomings of the Zoo in the mountains.

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